Would love to hear your ideas on how I can fix this valve component to have the adjustment I’d like with less chance of a bolt coming loose! Please do check out and grab a few pairs of MeUndies - I was wearing one of my pairs today, very comfy 😅 MeUndies.com/forge
Hey Alec! I just thought of a crazy tool you could make with that power hammer if you decide to try it out... A Damascus Crowbar! 🤔 I only say this as I'm blasting through 'Smallville' and saw Lex Luthor crack open a box with a fancy shiny Chromed crow bar and thought "Hey! Why not Damascus!" 😏👍. 😎🇬🇧
If you make the bolt hex head as well (instead of button head), you should be able to reach both it and the lock nut with small "spanners" from the back end
You're nut to hold the valve against the bore is unnecessary. Steam pressure will hold the valve onto the bore, so you don't need to worry about that. This is the same setup as is in the valve chest for a slide valve steam engine
My granddad used to be a smith back in the 50's and the conversation landed on you last weekend. Talked about how you are restoring this power hammer, and it brought him right back. Nice little bonding moment. "Oh, yeah, we used to have a whole street of steam hammers back in the day! Is it one with a square or with a round shaft?" - showed him a picture - "Oh yeah, I know that model!" From there we landed on the topic of you making Damascus all the time. He said that if you're up for a bit of a challenge, (one which he was never able to do by the way) you could try to forge the image of a face in the patterns of the Damascus in a knife. According to him only a handful of people were able to do that back in the day, and they only really did it for competitions.
If what you're saying is true, you should maybe get grandad in touch with Alec. Between the two of them he might just get this thing running again afterall.
@@they-call-me-mister-trash847 I think it'd be better if Alec found himself a retired smith in the UK. My grandad is 90, doesn't travel anymore and has lost his ability to converse in English. I think he'd have done it though if the question had come up 15-20 years ago.
Just a tip before you go off loading that thing with steam is maybe pressure test your fine work to some amount based off of a best guess of operating pressure. If any of your packings/flanges/threads/unions leak you'll be able to fix it without dealing with steam.
Why not just run it on compressed air? There is no reason to run it on steam nowdays, the days of old LP steam workshop boilers are gone. Unless im missing something?
@@Carl2k7because it was designed originally to run on steam and its cool, hes obviously into this type of old machinery, if he wanted one that used air he would buy one, not a steam one to convert to modern day. They’re historic pieces and hes preserving its authenticity.
There's a passage in Terry Pratchett's book Raising Steam which, while fantasy, has some basis in truth: Those who don't understand the steam find themselves in a cloud of red mist.
@@Carl2k7 Logic says compressed air but it's a STEAM hammer. I bet Alec will try and get it running on steam. Lets face it, this series has been great because of his perfectionist nature.
The steam pressure and the steam oil is what will cause the valve to seat closed in the valve assembly. I'd oil everything up in your valve train before applying any steam or air. And if you do go with steam, you will want a hydrostatic lubricator to continuously add oil to the steam vapor, and you'll need blow-down valves for the cylinder to drain the water, but I'm pretty sure you guys already knew that. Fantastic job so far! hope it springs to life soon.
US Version: Cresent wrench is what most call adjustable variety. Crescent is a brand known for making those wrenches. Wrench for the fixed variety. Ratchet for the thing sockets go on.
"Nut rounder" is also acceptable for crescent wrench, as is whatever string of expletives you wish to use when it changes sizes with the slightest bump for the 8th time in 5 minutes
So to fit the theme, you need a 15 episode steam boiler restoration to power your new steam powered power hammer. This has been a wonderful series to watch. Please never change
I just want to say the valve was a floating one and now he’s made it fixed. By floating I mean the pressure is what actively holds it against the port.
Yup. That's a Corliss valve: the steam/air pressure seals it by pressing it into the surface of the bore. This arrangement also takes up any wear by itself.
And we call the socket wrench a ... um ... socket wrench. Also, the ring spanner is a ring spanner, and the crescent wrench is just a spanner. But the shifter is variously 'shifter', 'shifting spanner' or 'shifting wrench'.
I usually refer to a shifting spanner as a "hand lathe" due to them being really good at rounding off the corners of stuck bolts if not properly adjusted.
i just binged the entire 14 episodes, such a cool project. been working in metal industrie myself but ofc never been able to do something like this, so many different things to do
I think he should ask for his money back. Have you ever heard of a toddler coming up with a measurement ending in .065?!?!??!? That is WAY to precise to be the work of a toddler, which means he paid an adult to pretend to make plans that should have been made by a toddler! There is absolutely no honour left in the toddler design industry these days!!! 😂
Meundies are great! I've had about 15 pairs for 4 or 5 years now with constant wear and washing and only one or two pairs finally had holes recently. The rest are perfectly fine! Best undies ever.
This series's and the mini power hammer have restored my love for this channel. Not that I didn't like it but I didn't wait for content. Now I'm waiting for every update on this project like the old days
Steam pressure should force the rotary valve against its seat, so there isn't a need for any kind of pressure screw. At least on valve chests in locomotives it works - and automatically compensates for wear, too!
Would the efficiency of this seal change now that the valve isn't hollow at the back (5:00) as there is less surface area for the steam to push against?
@@calthorn_marr3459 -Edit, read my next reply for a WAY WAY WAY better explanation I'm not out to say you aren't correct, I'm just telling you my reasoning because I want to understand where I'm going wrong with this, since as far as I understand the surface area has changed. The old part had the surface of the inner part (part around the axle, surface opposite to the surface against the cylinder wall) and the inside surface of the curved outer part (minus the before mentioned surface of the inner part) pushing it against the cylinder wall. All other surfaces have an opposite surface countering its pressure. The new part has the same surface on the inner part, but a smaller inner surface on the outer part, going from a quarter circle to a straight line. This is 1/4 of the circumference of a circle; 1/4*2*pi*r (1.57*r) vs The long end of a right-angled triangle where the short ends are the radius of the original circle, the square root of 2 times the radius; sqrt(2)*r (1.41*r) Since r hasn't changed, the difference in surface is 1.57 vs 1.41 is a change of 0.16 or a little over 10% loss in surface area.
OK, that's to complicated, I can say this better. Assuming all dimensions are the same on both parts, except the curved vs the flat inside of the outer part. Then these two surfaces would have to be the same for the pressure to remain the same for both parts. A curve between two points is longer than a straight line between two points. Therefore the curved part has a larger surface, resulting in a higher pressure.
Dude I am so jealous right now lol. You have something huge and complex break (not jealous of that), but have all of the advanced tools along with the knowledge/background to be able to fix it, and are able to do that for your occupation. I know it's probably a huge hassle and you probably have 1,000 other things that also need to get done, but I enjoy the long series' like this, getting to see the steps, struggles, problem solving, jokes, etc. Thanks for what ya do, and the action on that hammer is looking pretty good now!
14:50 A) adjustable wrench B) wrench C) ratchet wrench There is is one tool that I was taught to call a spanner. it was specifically for turning big hose fittings. Like 2 inch plus sized hose fittings.
15:00 socket wrench, wrench, and a crescent wrench(adjustable wrench). I know many people call tools all sorts of different names but at least you know the names 😊
In my apprenticeship 30+ years ago i was taught that the adjustable is a measuring tool! Its use is to measure hard to reach nuts and bolts then off to the tool box for the correct size spanner or socket and wrench.
At least for testing you could hire a steam plant, though in the UK they can get expensive, would recommend testing air first in case of leaks as a steam leak can get dangerous very quickly
Ive been following this journey of this power hammer from the beginning almost unreal to see it ready for testing. Reminds me of the time i rebuilt my camry engine
The valve brass most likely works the same as a d slide valve on a steam engine and is supposed to float. the pressure in the cylinder will push the valve against the wall helping the seal.
Exactly. I have been working on a steam locomotives that had some sort of leaf spring stuck in between the yoke and the slide valve but in most case nothing is needed but steam
In the order that Alec presented the wrenches: Adjustable (or Crescent) wrench, ratchet (wrench), combination (or combo) wrench. As an added bonus, the two ends of the combo wrench are called the "open" and "box" ends. The name "Crescent" wrench comes from a specific brand which filed the first U.S. patent for the style. Source: I've been a mechanic in the Coast Guard for 11 years.
Great video as always, Alec. Can't wait to see it in action! I'm from the UK and as regards to the Spanners, I call them: Spanner, Adjustable Spanner, and a ratchet.
Here in the US I’ve been taught that the shiny one is a combination wrench (because it has both open and box sections) the adjustable one is always called either a crescent wrench or adjustable wrench, the the third is called a ratcheting socket wrench.
Yup that's how I learned them though I'd say most people including myself just call just call a combination wrench a wrench unless I have a specific reason to specify the type
As much as you are a master blacksmith, FANTASTIC bladesmith, jeweler, welder and fabricator, I enjoy your machining content! Love every video you have ever made and pretty sure I have watched them all 😂
If you really want to you could place a compression spring between the shaft and working side of the valve so it has constant pressure against the cylinder. As the valve wears down it is self adjusting. Keep the spring in place with a short dowel or milled pocket.
Great idea. Probably best to go with the dowel to keep the spring from ever popping loose and causing damage, unless there's enough room in the mechanism for a pocket deep enough for at least half the length of the spring.
Where I am, spanners are the wrenches for removing or tightening cylinder caps/glands. Option A is an adjustable crescent, B is a combination crescent/box wrench, C is a ratcheting socket wrench.
Alec & Jamie will need extra pairs of MeUndies when they hook up a steam boiler. 🤣 Truthfully though. As a automotive mechanic's son, I called fixed and adjustable nut/bolt tools "Wrenches." 🔧 A spanner was something I only hear from my UK cousins or the turn of phrase "Threw a spanner in the works." That said, Jamie you're a spanner. Alec is Wrench because of his stint in Montana with Will. 😂😉
For me being an American a spanner is one of those funky wrenches with the semicircular arc and pip on it. Or maybe two pips. There's both styles. Some bicycle bottom bracket nuts need a spanner. There's just notches in them. So you'd put a pip in the notch and the arc wraps around the fastener.
I've always been brought up using the terms for the wrenches as Adjustable Wrench = Thumb wrench or crescent wrench. .. and the spanner = box wrench or open wrench depending on if it is opened or closed on the ends... and the "spinney wrench = 'X' socket/ratchet wrench (the 'X' being the size sockets.)
The tiny hole in the valve at 4:50 is likely meant to keep a tiny trickle of steam going to maintain a working temperature on the steam hammer. Any system using pressurised steam needs to stay hot, it reduces condensation and keeps the metal from warping too much.
Depends on where you're from, I'm in the US and I call the "adjustable spanner" a crescent wrench, I call the "spanner" a wrench, and I call the other one (I forgot what they called it) a socket wrench
I believe the accepted term for the adjustable spanner is "Thumb detecting nut F*****" for its ability to smash thumbs and round off fasteners. (Thank you AvE) As to the valve, I would drill and tap two holes adjacent to the one you did on the valve and put large set screws in, that way you can adjust depth and and offset from concentric, then use the center hole as a tension bolt. Make sure to locktite it when completed.
In America the adjustable one is called a "Crescent wrench", the fixed wrenches are just "wrenches", and the socket is called a "socket wrench" or a "ratchet wrench". There are also "pipe wrenches", "monkey wrenches", "strap wrenches", etc. We just love complicating things.
No, in America adjustable wrenches are just called adjustable wrenches. Crescent wrenches are open-sided fixed-size wrenches. Idk where you got your info but it’s either wrong or overly local
Shoot, guess I’m the very local idiot then, had no clue crescent was a brand. Where im from it’s “adjustable wrench” = open jaw adjustable wrench, “crescent wrench” = open jaw fixed wrench with one or two ends, “combination wrench” = one open end, one closed end. We don’t have a name for double-closed wrenches, just “wrench”
@@IanBLacy don t feel bad Bendix is to and there are people to day still call them that the name is starter drive it was good branding on there part wasent it ?
Only 14 episodes, and it's finally getting put together! Thanks for breaking projects like this up. While you could do it in a super long video to satisfy the algo, these shorter chunks make it actually consumable.
Hey Alec! I just thought of a crazy tool you could make with that power hammer if you decide to try it out... A Damascus Crowbar! 🤔 I only say this as I'm blasting through 'Smallville' and saw Lex Luthor crack open a box with a fancy shiny Chromed crow bar and thought "Hey! Why not Damascus?" 😏👍. 😎🇬🇧
The adjustable one is called a crescent wrench, the spinny one is called a ratchet or socket wrench, and the last is just a wrench. You Brits, goodness gracious haha great vid, can't wait to see it running!
Adjustable wrench or crescent wrench, ratcheting wrench for the wrench you put sockets on and then combination wrenches. The wrenches are box end, open end or combination.
Shifta for the adjustable one, ratchet for the one that ratchets, and spanner for the fixed one which can either be an open ended, ring, combo, ratcheting ring or wobbly ratcheting ring if you get the really fancy ones.....
Remember that it's the steam pressure that holds the valve on the port face. Valves on steam engines are pretty slack .Great video as always mate keep it up!
If it's used to turn part of a threaded interface (nuts, bolts, pipes, pipe fittings, etc) it's a wrench (unless you count screws/screwdrivers). Since there are a lot of different types of wrenches, it's usually useful to specify that you're talking about an adjustable wrench (Option A), socket wrench (Option C), pipe wrench, impact wrench, hex wrench, ratchet wrench, torque wrench, strap wrench, etc. The thing that's most commonly referred to as just a "wrench" is Option B, which is a combination wrench, but I tend to refer to hex wrenches just as wrenches because those are the ones I use the most at work. Ratcheting combination wrenches are often referred to just as "ratchet wrenches", but sometimes people just say "ratchet" to refer to a socket wrench. Impact wrenches and torque wrenches are also technically socket wrenches, but "socket wrench" refers to a regular, hand powered ratcheting socket wrench (Option C). A socket wrench that doesn't ratchet is called a breaker bar. People will have their own opinions about which terms should be used for what, but this is how the word "wrench" is typically used in American English. "Spanner" is used to refer to some (maybe all) of these things in some (maybe all) other English speaking countries. It's never been totally clear to me whether "spanner" encompasses as wide a range of things as "wrench".
In Australia, it's called a "Shifter" cause it moves or is adjustable. Socket wrench a "Ratchet" and the Spanner depends on the type. the one you showed is a "Combo Spanner" and if it has a ring each end it's a Ring Spanner"
Great video Alec and Jamie, looking forward to seeing it what you have to trouble shoot to get it running well. Stay safe.
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I'm proud of Jamie being a true British, he probably drinks only tea at every meal, has a picture of the king on his bedroom and has a deep desire to have half of the world under his control.
The adjustable wrench is known to all British marine engineers as, 'A shifter.' The best one by far being a Bahco - no other comes close. We all have an 8" shifter in our back pocket at all times to nip up valves, joints, seals etc, while on radio rounds.
Bahco was the Swedish company where this type of adjustable wrench was invented. They made them in Sweden but the company is owned by Snap-on since 1999 and since about 2006 the tools are made in Spain and China.
A. Crescent wrench B. Combination wrench, or just wrench. If both ends are a closed circle, it’s a box wrench, if both ends are open, it’s an open ended wrench. Then there’s line wrenches which are open ended but have only a small section cut out of the complete circle so all 6 sides are contacted but can still pass over a brake line, gas line, etc. C. Ratchet
🇦🇺 in Australia... "Shifter" is an adjustable spanner, "Spanner" open or ring end we say AF or metric, "Ratchet" is your 1/2 inch, 3/4, 1/4 or 3/8 drive. But we say "torque wrench"
A) Crescent Wrench B) Combination Wrench (It has a open ended wrench on one end and a box end wrench on the other.) C) Ratchet (Becomes a socket wrench when you attach a socket.)
So Spanner (Open, Ring or Combination), Adjustable Spanner (or universal nut mangler), and ratchet. Also available box spanner, ratcheting spanner, pliers wrench. In terms of adjusting the valve spacing, I'd have gone for strips of shim between shaft and inside of valve
In Canada, they are called wrenches, the spinney thing is called a ratchet, and the adjustable spanner is called a crescent wrench even when they aren't made by Crescent. I looked up in a dictionary (because that's how we've always settled arguments in my family) definition of what 'wrenching' is and it is "to pull and twist something suddenly or violently away from a fixed position"
depending on whom you ask..a spanner is a wrench.. or its a wrench like object with prongs meant to adjust things that have holes or odd shaped marks that said prongs engage with..
So as far as the wrench/spanner thing: The adjustable one is a Crescent Wrench, the fixed one is a wrench, and then there’s the socket wrench. As far as I’ve known, spanners will have some kind of teeth or pins that fit onto a non-standard collar
14:30 Being in the States that is an Adjustable Wrench, but I call it a Crescent Wrench. My understanding is the Crescent Tool company was the first to popularize the adjustable wrench in the states thus its commonly called a Crescent wrench, much like a circular saw its a Skill Saw here in the states or facial tissue is called Kleenex buy many.
The brass valve is hollowed out behind so that the steam pressure presses the valve to cover the outlet hole. It should freely move on the square shaft. The steam pressure will do the work of sealing it shut.
On the wrenches, in dutch we call them 'sleutels', litteral translation is key, so you have like 'sleutel 10(mm) etc, and the adjustable is a 'schroef sleutel' because it has a screw/threads in it as threads on a bolt in dutch is called schroefdraad (screw wire).
I have a piece of advice for lathe and jaw chucks: whenever you're not absolutely sure if you need to put it back in the chuck, mark your jaw position. Pick one jaw to mark, and mark it on your part (always use the same one, avoid mistakes). When you put a part back in the jaws in the same position as they were before, three jaw chucks are very repeatable. At least much more than without realigning it. Not perfect of course, but quite good.
I'm American and I call all three tools a wrench. Option A is an adjustable crescent wrench. Option B is a regular crescent wrench. Option C is a socket wrench
This is normally the point in the project where I consider how much harder it is to design and build a new one from scratch versus reverse-engineering and resurrecting this piece of history. This is way cooler though. I hope it works and we gain some new understanding of the past alongside having a functional steam hammer.
When you do the "wet" assembly of the piping, I recommend you use a high pressure thread sealant like Vibratite 440 or similar. On that badly worn hole on one of the valve body covers, Loctite Form-A-Thread might work pretty well to build it back up. If you haven't found a compressor to run it yet, a used diesel towable air compressor is probably gonna be your best dollar-to-CFM ratio.... Er, Pound-to-cubic meter per minute??? Definitely called a wrench, btw.
A. Adjustable Wrench, All 16th's (all mm you metric people), 'Mexican' speed wrench B. Combination Wrench (open on one end - closed on the other) There are also Box-end wrenches & Open-end Wrenches C. Ratchet - they can also be used as a hammer in a pinch.
Would love to hear your ideas on how I can fix this valve component to have the adjustment I’d like with less chance of a bolt coming loose!
Please do check out and grab a few pairs of MeUndies - I was wearing one of my pairs today, very comfy 😅 MeUndies.com/forge
Hey Alec! I just thought of a crazy tool you could make with that power hammer if you decide to try it out... A Damascus Crowbar! 🤔 I only say this as I'm blasting through 'Smallville' and saw Lex Luthor crack open a box with a fancy shiny Chromed crow bar and thought "Hey! Why not Damascus!" 😏👍. 😎🇬🇧
If you make the bolt hex head as well (instead of button head), you should be able to reach both it and the lock nut with small "spanners" from the back end
You're nut to hold the valve against the bore is unnecessary. Steam pressure will hold the valve onto the bore, so you don't need to worry about that. This is the same setup as is in the valve chest for a slide valve steam engine
You could do lock wire.
What if you used something like a spring loaded button pin like how they use when two poles need to be connected on DIY furniture
My granddad used to be a smith back in the 50's and the conversation landed on you last weekend. Talked about how you are restoring this power hammer, and it brought him right back. Nice little bonding moment. "Oh, yeah, we used to have a whole street of steam hammers back in the day! Is it one with a square or with a round shaft?" - showed him a picture - "Oh yeah, I know that model!"
From there we landed on the topic of you making Damascus all the time. He said that if you're up for a bit of a challenge, (one which he was never able to do by the way) you could try to forge the image of a face in the patterns of the Damascus in a knife. According to him only a handful of people were able to do that back in the day, and they only really did it for competitions.
If what you're saying is true, you should maybe get grandad in touch with Alec. Between the two of them he might just get this thing running again afterall.
@@they-call-me-mister-trash847 I think it'd be better if Alec found himself a retired smith in the UK. My grandad is 90, doesn't travel anymore and has lost his ability to converse in English.
I think he'd have done it though if the question had come up 15-20 years ago.
Never thought I'd be into a series about fixing a steam hammer.... yet here I am again and will continue watching till the end
Just a tip before you go off loading that thing with steam is maybe pressure test your fine work to some amount based off of a best guess of operating pressure. If any of your packings/flanges/threads/unions leak you'll be able to fix it without dealing with steam.
Why not just run it on compressed air? There is no reason to run it on steam nowdays, the days of old LP steam workshop boilers are gone.
Unless im missing something?
@@Carl2k7because it was designed originally to run on steam and its cool, hes obviously into this type of old machinery, if he wanted one that used air he would buy one, not a steam one to convert to modern day. They’re historic pieces and hes preserving its authenticity.
There's a passage in Terry Pratchett's book Raising Steam which, while fantasy, has some basis in truth:
Those who don't understand the steam find themselves in a cloud of red mist.
@@Carl2k7 Logic says compressed air but it's a STEAM hammer.
I bet Alec will try and get it running on steam. Lets face it, this series has been great because of his perfectionist nature.
While compressed air might work, i suspect might have issues due to lack of heat and thermal expansion
The steam pressure and the steam oil is what will cause the valve to seat closed in the valve assembly.
I'd oil everything up in your valve train before applying any steam or air.
And if you do go with steam, you will want a hydrostatic lubricator to continuously add oil to the steam vapor, and you'll need blow-down valves for the cylinder to drain the water, but I'm pretty sure you guys already knew that.
Fantastic job so far! hope it springs to life soon.
US Version:
Cresent wrench is what most call adjustable variety. Crescent is a brand known for making those wrenches.
Wrench for the fixed variety.
Ratchet for the thing sockets go on.
Same up here in Canada.
In New Zealand we just call it a crescent, the Aussies call it a shifter.
"Nut rounder" is also acceptable for crescent wrench, as is whatever string of expletives you wish to use when it changes sizes with the slightest bump for the 8th time in 5 minutes
Knuckle buster is another name in the US for the adjustable hahaha
I didn't realize Crescent was once a brand, I thought it was the shape.
So to fit the theme, you need a 15 episode steam boiler restoration to power your new steam powered power hammer. This has been a wonderful series to watch. Please never change
I think he should just build one from scratch, it isnt too hard.
In Germany we call the Adjustable Wrench an "Engländer" which is the Translation for "English Man". and i think its funny :D
in french we call it "clé anglaise" which translates to "english key"
In Poland we call it (translated) a "frenchman". The bigger one is called a "little frog".
I love German humour.
in America they're actually all known as hammers
@@aaronshray4496 Lool :D
I just want to say the valve was a floating one and now he’s made it fixed. By floating I mean the pressure is what actively holds it against the port.
Yup. That's a Corliss valve: the steam/air pressure seals it by pressing it into the surface of the bore.
This arrangement also takes up any wear by itself.
I'm from Australia!
I call the adjustable one a "shifter" and the fixed one is a "spanner"
Also known as a shifter here in Scotland
Plus the ratchet.
And we call the socket wrench a ... um ... socket wrench. Also, the ring spanner is a ring spanner, and the crescent wrench is just a spanner. But the shifter is variously 'shifter', 'shifting spanner' or 'shifting wrench'.
“In Brazil, we call it ‘English key’.”
I usually refer to a shifting spanner as a "hand lathe" due to them being really good at rounding off the corners of stuck bolts if not properly adjusted.
i just binged the entire 14 episodes, such a cool project. been working in metal industrie myself but ofc never been able to do something like this, so many different things to do
11:22 Jamies quiet "ooh yeah" had me crying
Really loved the banter on this one - seemed like Alec was genuinely having fun, which is what makes the content fun to watch
"i paid a toddler to do my engineering drawings" made me spit out my water
English is not my first language, for a second, I thought toddler could also mean something else 😂
I thought it was a stupid joke! 😶🙄😮💨
Lol, same!
I think he should ask for his money back. Have you ever heard of a toddler coming up with a measurement ending in .065?!?!??!? That is WAY to precise to be the work of a toddler, which means he paid an adult to pretend to make plans that should have been made by a toddler! There is absolutely no honour left in the toddler design industry these days!!! 😂
Meundies are great! I've had about 15 pairs for 4 or 5 years now with constant wear and washing and only one or two pairs finally had holes recently. The rest are perfectly fine! Best undies ever.
This series's and the mini power hammer have restored my love for this channel. Not that I didn't like it but I didn't wait for content. Now I'm waiting for every update on this project like the old days
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In polish:
A. Klucz Francuski - French wrench
B. Klucz płaski - Flat wrench
C. Grzechotka - Ratchet
Steam pressure should force the rotary valve against its seat,
so there isn't a need for any kind of pressure screw.
At least on valve chests in locomotives it works - and automatically compensates for wear, too!
I agree.
Would the efficiency of this seal change now that the valve isn't hollow at the back (5:00) as there is less surface area for the steam to push against?
@@alucide no that dont mater as the total fotprint of the valve is the surface aria the steam is pushing against.
@@calthorn_marr3459 -Edit, read my next reply for a WAY WAY WAY better explanation
I'm not out to say you aren't correct, I'm just telling you my reasoning because I want to understand where I'm going wrong with this, since as far as I understand the surface area has changed.
The old part had the surface of the inner part (part around the axle, surface opposite to the surface against the cylinder wall) and the inside surface of the curved outer part (minus the before mentioned surface of the inner part) pushing it against the cylinder wall. All other surfaces have an opposite surface countering its pressure.
The new part has the same surface on the inner part, but a smaller inner surface on the outer part, going from a quarter circle to a straight line.
This is 1/4 of the circumference of a circle; 1/4*2*pi*r (1.57*r) vs
The long end of a right-angled triangle where the short ends are the radius of the original circle, the square root of 2 times the radius; sqrt(2)*r (1.41*r)
Since r hasn't changed, the difference in surface is 1.57 vs 1.41 is a change of 0.16 or a little over 10% loss in surface area.
OK, that's to complicated, I can say this better. Assuming all dimensions are the same on both parts, except the curved vs the flat inside of the outer part. Then these two surfaces would have to be the same for the pressure to remain the same for both parts.
A curve between two points is longer than a straight line between two points. Therefore the curved part has a larger surface, resulting in a higher pressure.
Dude I am so jealous right now lol. You have something huge and complex break (not jealous of that), but have all of the advanced tools along with the knowledge/background to be able to fix it, and are able to do that for your occupation. I know it's probably a huge hassle and you probably have 1,000 other things that also need to get done, but I enjoy the long series' like this, getting to see the steps, struggles, problem solving, jokes, etc.
Thanks for what ya do, and the action on that hammer is looking pretty good now!
Your seals joke was 10/10!
14:50 A) adjustable wrench B) wrench C) ratchet wrench
There is is one tool that I was taught to call a spanner. it was specifically for turning big hose fittings. Like 2 inch plus sized hose fittings.
14:41 This, clearly is option D, an adjustable hammer!
Absolutely every welder, always
I would call an adjustable either "the wrong tool for every job" a "nut rounder" or a hammer. Great video again.
Nut rounder is what I call it. I don't even own an adjustable wrench anymore.
Cardboard-cutout-Alec looks so happy in the thumbnail.
I like the thumbnails for this series.
15:00 socket wrench, wrench, and a crescent wrench(adjustable wrench). I know many people call tools all sorts of different names but at least you know the names 😊
In my apprenticeship 30+ years ago i was taught that the adjustable is a measuring tool! Its use is to measure hard to reach nuts and bolts then off to the tool box for the correct size spanner or socket and wrench.
Awfully heavy and robust measuring tool.
:O WHY?!? WHY DID I NOT THINK OF THIS?!?
At least for testing you could hire a steam plant, though in the UK they can get expensive, would recommend testing air first in case of leaks as a steam leak can get dangerous very quickly
2:51 "should be good as new" I'm sure it will be, because it was shite to begin with 🤣
Ive been following this journey of this power hammer from the beginning almost unreal to see it ready for testing. Reminds me of the time i rebuilt my camry engine
The valve brass most likely works the same as a d slide valve on a steam engine and is supposed to float. the pressure in the cylinder will push the valve against the wall helping the seal.
Exactly. I have been working on a steam locomotives that had some sort of leaf spring stuck in between the yoke and the slide valve but in most case nothing is needed but steam
agreed!
In the order that Alec presented the wrenches: Adjustable (or Crescent) wrench, ratchet (wrench), combination (or combo) wrench. As an added bonus, the two ends of the combo wrench are called the "open" and "box" ends. The name "Crescent" wrench comes from a specific brand which filed the first U.S. patent for the style.
Source: I've been a mechanic in the Coast Guard for 11 years.
I call it a "shifting spanner" - I'm Welsh Gen X though, and my late Father was a Blacksmith!
A) Adjustable open end wrench (AKA Crescent wrench)
B) Combination wrench
C) socket wrench, AKA ratchet
With love from Canada 🇨🇦🍁
Great video as always, Alec. Can't wait to see it in action! I'm from the UK and as regards to the Spanners, I call them:
Spanner,
Adjustable Spanner,
and a ratchet.
This is probably my most favourite series you have made so far!
Here in the US I’ve been taught that the shiny one is a combination wrench (because it has both open and box sections) the adjustable one is always called either a crescent wrench or adjustable wrench, the the third is called a ratcheting socket wrench.
In denmark we Call the adjustable wrench a “Swedish key” 😂
Same in canada
Yup that's how I learned them though I'd say most people including myself just call just call a combination wrench a wrench unless I have a specific reason to specify the type
My pawpaw always called the adjustable wrench an adjustable. The box end wrench a wrench and the socket wrench a ratchet.
An adjustable wrench in Australia is commonly called a "shifter", short for shifting spanner.
As much as you are a master blacksmith, FANTASTIC bladesmith, jeweler, welder and fabricator, I enjoy your machining content!
Love every video you have ever made and pretty sure I have watched them all 😂
If you really want to you could place a compression spring between the shaft and working side of the valve so it has constant pressure against the cylinder. As the valve wears down it is self adjusting. Keep the spring in place with a short dowel or milled pocket.
Great idea. Probably best to go with the dowel to keep the spring from ever popping loose and causing damage, unless there's enough room in the mechanism for a pocket deep enough for at least half the length of the spring.
I love the honest presentation and the troubleshooting. Thanks Alex.
Nearly there!
Can't wait to see this thing in action, been my favorite series so far!
Where I am, spanners are the wrenches for removing or tightening cylinder caps/glands. Option A is an adjustable crescent, B is a combination crescent/box wrench, C is a ratcheting socket wrench.
I love your videos, being a blacksmith as well as a machinist is helpful for stock efficiency. Can't wait to see what you have planned next
Alec & Jamie will need extra pairs of MeUndies when they hook up a steam boiler. 🤣
Truthfully though. As a automotive mechanic's son, I called fixed and adjustable nut/bolt tools "Wrenches." 🔧
A spanner was something I only hear from my UK cousins or the turn of phrase "Threw a spanner in the works."
That said, Jamie you're a spanner. Alec is Wrench because of his stint in Montana with Will. 😂😉
For me being an American a spanner is one of those funky wrenches with the semicircular arc and pip on it. Or maybe two pips. There's both styles. Some bicycle bottom bracket nuts need a spanner. There's just notches in them. So you'd put a pip in the notch and the arc wraps around the fastener.
I've always been brought up using the terms for the wrenches as Adjustable Wrench = Thumb wrench or crescent wrench. .. and the spanner = box wrench or open wrench depending on if it is opened or closed on the ends... and the "spinney wrench = 'X' socket/ratchet wrench (the 'X' being the size sockets.)
I've never been this early on an Alec Steele video before!
Same
These are my fav go to videos you make, I love when you fix things.
Option A: Crescent Wrench
Option B: Box end wrench
Option C: Ratcheting wrench
Option C:Socket Wrench
Option D... We call it a Crescent Wrench. Yes, I know that is a brand name, but so is Kleenex, which we call all tissue paper regardless of the brand.
14:48 No that is what is called a ratchet!
The tiny hole in the valve at 4:50 is likely meant to keep a tiny trickle of steam going to maintain a working temperature on the steam hammer.
Any system using pressurised steam needs to stay hot, it reduces condensation and keeps the metal from warping too much.
14:59 jamie is correct
Depends on where you're from, I'm in the US and I call the "adjustable spanner" a crescent wrench, I call the "spanner" a wrench, and I call the other one (I forgot what they called it) a socket wrench
I believe the accepted term for the adjustable spanner is "Thumb detecting nut F*****" for its ability to smash thumbs and round off fasteners. (Thank you AvE)
As to the valve, I would drill and tap two holes adjacent to the one you did on the valve and put large set screws in, that way you can adjust depth and and offset from concentric, then use the center hole as a tension bolt. Make sure to locktite it when completed.
In America the adjustable one is called a "Crescent wrench", the fixed wrenches are just "wrenches", and the socket is called a "socket wrench" or a "ratchet wrench". There are also "pipe wrenches", "monkey wrenches", "strap wrenches", etc. We just love complicating things.
No, in America adjustable wrenches are just called adjustable wrenches. Crescent wrenches are open-sided fixed-size wrenches. Idk where you got your info but it’s either wrong or overly local
@@IanBLacyno.
Crescent is a brand name that people use for all adjustable wrenches.
Shoot, guess I’m the very local idiot then, had no clue crescent was a brand.
Where im from it’s “adjustable wrench” = open jaw adjustable wrench, “crescent wrench” = open jaw fixed wrench with one or two ends, “combination wrench” = one open end, one closed end. We don’t have a name for double-closed wrenches, just “wrench”
@@IanBLacy you and the guy you replied to are wrong its funny
@@IanBLacy don t feel bad Bendix is to and there are people to day still call them that the name is starter drive it was good branding on there part wasent it ?
Option A in the south west US is a Crescent Wrench, option B is a Box/ Open end Wrench, and option C is a Ratchetting Wrench, 1/4" 3/8" 1/2 and so on.
Only 14 episodes, and it's finally getting put together! Thanks for breaking projects like this up. While you could do it in a super long video to satisfy the algo, these shorter chunks make it actually consumable.
What are they called? easy:
A) Adjustable Wrench
B) Wrench
B) Socket Wrench
Hey Alec! I just thought of a crazy tool you could make with that power hammer if you decide to try it out... A Damascus Crowbar! 🤔 I only say this as I'm blasting through 'Smallville' and saw Lex Luthor crack open a box with a fancy shiny Chromed crow bar and thought "Hey! Why not Damascus?" 😏👍. 😎🇬🇧
The adjustable one is called a crescent wrench, the spinny one is called a ratchet or socket wrench, and the last is just a wrench. You Brits, goodness gracious haha great vid, can't wait to see it running!
The BUDS joke about SEALs was perfect
17:01 use compressed air to test it
Problem is they require so much flow, I’m worried his shop air compressors wouldn’t be able to deliver
Please don't make a steam boiler... It won't be good for the upload schedule if you're dead!
Adjustable wrench or crescent wrench, ratcheting wrench for the wrench you put sockets on and then combination wrenches. The wrenches are box end, open end or combination.
😂 Allan... Allan...classic! Thoroughly enjoy the process of rebuilding the steam hammer, so many things to remember and guess work.
Shifta for the adjustable one, ratchet for the one that ratchets, and spanner for the fixed one which can either be an open ended, ring, combo, ratcheting ring or wobbly ratcheting ring if you get the really fancy ones.....
Remember that it's the steam pressure that holds the valve on the port face. Valves on steam engines are pretty slack .Great video as always mate keep it up!
If it's used to turn part of a threaded interface (nuts, bolts, pipes, pipe fittings, etc) it's a wrench (unless you count screws/screwdrivers). Since there are a lot of different types of wrenches, it's usually useful to specify that you're talking about an adjustable wrench (Option A), socket wrench (Option C), pipe wrench, impact wrench, hex wrench, ratchet wrench, torque wrench, strap wrench, etc. The thing that's most commonly referred to as just a "wrench" is Option B, which is a combination wrench, but I tend to refer to hex wrenches just as wrenches because those are the ones I use the most at work. Ratcheting combination wrenches are often referred to just as "ratchet wrenches", but sometimes people just say "ratchet" to refer to a socket wrench. Impact wrenches and torque wrenches are also technically socket wrenches, but "socket wrench" refers to a regular, hand powered ratcheting socket wrench (Option C). A socket wrench that doesn't ratchet is called a breaker bar. People will have their own opinions about which terms should be used for what, but this is how the word "wrench" is typically used in American English. "Spanner" is used to refer to some (maybe all) of these things in some (maybe all) other English speaking countries. It's never been totally clear to me whether "spanner" encompasses as wide a range of things as "wrench".
Seeing the bits all working together was rather satisfying! Soon!
In Australia, it's called a "Shifter" cause it moves or is adjustable. Socket wrench a "Ratchet" and the Spanner depends on the type. the one you showed is a "Combo Spanner" and if it has a ring each end it's a Ring Spanner"
Great video Alec and Jamie, looking forward to seeing it what you have to trouble shoot to get it running well. Stay safe.
I'm proud of Jamie being a true British, he probably drinks only tea at every meal, has a picture of the king on his bedroom and has a deep desire to have half of the world under his control.
What a wonderful adventure! I can't wait to see what comes next. Greetings from France!
From Australia:
- Adjustable tool- Shifter
- Ring and Open end tool- Spanner
- Ratcheting tool- Socket wrench
The adjustable wrench is known to all British marine engineers as, 'A shifter.' The best one by far being a Bahco - no other comes close. We all have an 8" shifter in our back pocket at all times to nip up valves, joints, seals etc, while on radio rounds.
Bahco was the Swedish company where this type of adjustable wrench was invented. They made them in Sweden but the company is owned by Snap-on since 1999 and since about 2006 the tools are made in Spain and China.
13:06
Oh that Jazz hit just right.
A. Crescent wrench
B. Combination wrench, or just wrench. If both ends are a closed circle, it’s a box wrench, if both ends are open, it’s an open ended wrench. Then there’s line wrenches which are open ended but have only a small section cut out of the complete circle so all 6 sides are contacted but can still pass over a brake line, gas line, etc.
C. Ratchet
🇦🇺 in Australia...
"Shifter" is an adjustable spanner,
"Spanner" open or ring end we say AF or metric,
"Ratchet" is your 1/2 inch, 3/4, 1/4 or 3/8 drive.
But we say "torque wrench"
@7:40 Alec....the moment he is done advertising a fresh new undies brand. "It presses on the shaft". 😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Btw Jaime, it's called a Cresent Wrench.
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It's actually called an adjustable wrench, cresent is a brand that are known for the wrenches
This is my favorite series since the katana❤
A) Crescent Wrench
B) Combination Wrench (It has a open ended wrench on one end and a box end wrench on the other.)
C) Ratchet (Becomes a socket wrench when you attach a socket.)
So Spanner (Open, Ring or Combination), Adjustable Spanner (or universal nut mangler), and ratchet. Also available box spanner, ratcheting spanner, pliers wrench. In terms of adjusting the valve spacing, I'd have gone for strips of shim between shaft and inside of valve
In Canada, they are called wrenches, the spinney thing is called a ratchet, and the adjustable spanner is called a crescent wrench even when they aren't made by Crescent. I looked up in a dictionary (because that's how we've always settled arguments in my family) definition of what 'wrenching' is and it is "to pull and twist something suddenly or violently away from a fixed position"
I would call option A a Crescent Wrench, B is a combination wrench (because one end is open, the other end is boxed) and C is a ratchet wrench
depending on whom you ask..a spanner is a wrench.. or its a wrench like object with prongs meant to adjust things that have holes or odd shaped marks that said prongs engage with..
Young JAMEY doing a crossover episode is crazy! round the outside!
So as far as the wrench/spanner thing:
The adjustable one is a Crescent Wrench, the fixed one is a wrench, and then there’s the socket wrench. As far as I’ve known, spanners will have some kind of teeth or pins that fit onto a non-standard collar
Nice editing coming out of the meundies ad. “It presses on the shaft” 7:35 😂
Screw the banner/wrench argument, Alec. I am glad to see you using a boatswain chair to work on the hammer.
14:30 Being in the States that is an Adjustable Wrench, but I call it a Crescent Wrench. My understanding is the Crescent Tool company was the first to popularize the adjustable wrench in the states thus its commonly called a Crescent wrench, much like a circular saw its a Skill Saw here in the states or facial tissue is called Kleenex buy many.
A: adjustable wrench
B: wrench, crescent wrench, box end, ratcheting box end
C: ratchet
The brass valve is hollowed out behind so that the steam pressure presses the valve to cover the outlet hole. It should freely move on the square shaft. The steam pressure will do the work of sealing it shut.
On the wrenches, in dutch we call them 'sleutels', litteral translation is key, so you have like 'sleutel 10(mm) etc, and the adjustable is a 'schroef sleutel' because it has a screw/threads in it as threads on a bolt in dutch is called schroefdraad (screw wire).
Option A: "crescent wrench" because the company that made them.
Option B: wrench.
Option C: ratchet.
7:20
That’s a craaaazy first line to transition out of the sponsor segment 😂
In Canada, we have the adjustable, Cresent, all 1/16ths, tum wrench, and the saskatchewan socket set..... all as implied are the same tool
I have a piece of advice for lathe and jaw chucks: whenever you're not absolutely sure if you need to put it back in the chuck, mark your jaw position. Pick one jaw to mark, and mark it on your part (always use the same one, avoid mistakes). When you put a part back in the jaws in the same position as they were before, three jaw chucks are very repeatable. At least much more than without realigning it.
Not perfect of course, but quite good.
I'm American and I call all three tools a wrench. Option A is an adjustable crescent wrench. Option B is a regular crescent wrench. Option C is a socket wrench
This is normally the point in the project where I consider how much harder it is to design and build a new one from scratch versus reverse-engineering and resurrecting this piece of history.
This is way cooler though. I hope it works and we gain some new understanding of the past alongside having a functional steam hammer.
In Australia,
Option a. Is shifter
Option b is spanner
Option c. Is Ratchet handle
When you do the "wet" assembly of the piping, I recommend you use a high pressure thread sealant like Vibratite 440 or similar. On that badly worn hole on one of the valve body covers, Loctite Form-A-Thread might work pretty well to build it back up. If you haven't found a compressor to run it yet, a used diesel towable air compressor is probably gonna be your best dollar-to-CFM ratio.... Er, Pound-to-cubic meter per minute??? Definitely called a wrench, btw.
A. Adjustable Wrench, All 16th's (all mm you metric people), 'Mexican' speed wrench
B. Combination Wrench (open on one end - closed on the other) There are also Box-end wrenches & Open-end Wrenches
C. Ratchet - they can also be used as a hammer in a pinch.