I was in critical care in a coma on ECMO for 14 days followed by intensive care - I "died" twice an incredible experience which has enabled me not to fear death and help my partner and my mother pass peacefully. Listening to Penny I am not the person I was before and my whole live is unrecognisable
Such a rich and wonderful conversation, thank you both. Lots to ponder. I wonder how these near death experiences relate to those that can be experienced by some in meditation and spiritual experiences, for example experiencing light and a feeling of love as well as visions
Dear Rainbow. Thanks a lot for your comment and giving us also more to ponder. We are following this topic with a Live Discussion to explore this in more depth. Follow us on Instagram @Adhisthana and in our website www.adhsithana.org in the Nature of Mind. If you miss the live event we will still post it at our website. THANKS for contributing!
I remember a doctor in Southampton wrote a book about this. The staff in the hospital said about this. I remember a operation i had that was not successful. The surgeon denied it but with support of my GP at the time. I wrote a letter detailing what i heard during the operation, the conversation he had, I was soon brought in and an offer to pay for it privately. I asked him to do it and put things right. Other experiences is my belief that when you pass the pain is gone but when brought back the pain is intense. I find it interesting about the hands as my son has a syndrome where he hands are clubbed. He has become very spiritual so a area i shall ask him to explore. One thing that has kept me alive is mediation as it slowed my breathing until help arrives. Experiences i cannot change for buddhism but i can live with.
@@AdhisthanaTriratna I have just purchased 'What happens when we die by Dr Sam Parnia who study was at Southampton General Hospital. I have also just ordered Penny Sartori book.
Dear Moi Moi; Thanks a lot for watching the video and placing this question. Here are Adhisthana we cannot respond to your query but we will forward it to Dr Penny Sartori. Much Metta;
Hi, what do you think, do i see my loved deceased Mum again after my own Dead? I lost her 3 months ago and the Loss is not to overcome for me. What can i Do??? Thank you.
Dear Firehunt Breaking, I’m deeply sorry about the loss of your mum : although they’re many teachings around on this area of human experience, the one I’ve found perhaps most helpful personally is “The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying” by Sogyal Rinpoche. You must look beyond Sogyal Rinpoches personal failings as a man, and dwell on the truths which, it’s just my view, I think are expressed with in it. It’s deep dharma and can’t be sullied by his unskillful actions. I think you might find with in it’s pages some practices to help you and your dear mum. If you don’t wish to buy it you can listen to it free on TH-cam. As well as searching for Triratna teachers on this area of life you might experience great benefit listen to Thich Nhat Hahn talks on life and death, these are also available on TH-cam. I’m not seeking to provide you with this answers, as I don’t know them myself but what I’d like to convey to you is that you are not alone in your suffering, and i wish you only well in making sense of your dear mother’s death. I hope you don’t mind what I’ve said above and I hope it helps.
Dear Firehunt Breaking. I’m so sorry to hear about that, some losses are very hard to bear at times and it can take a long time to lessen. Unfortunately, your specific question is unanswerable, even the buddha did not try to answer it, but through meditation and practising awareness we do develop more opening to new experiences in the way that Penny Sartori describes in her interview. And in those open moments of awareness many meetings are possible on many different levels. And yet, within that, grief will always be part of our human experience, the Buddha also expressed his pain in the days after the death of his closest disciples Sariputta and Moggallana, when he remarked, “This assembly, O bhikkhus, appears indeed empty to me, now that Sariputta and Moggallana have passed away” (SN 47.14).
You mother is still with you, you need to be open to this. When I was dying my grandmother was "with me". I have been helped enormously with my grief for my mother by a spiritual man who has encouraged me to ask her to come to me.
Relatives fight over what they can get of your's. But you don't give a shit cuz yr body has worn out and you have left it and moved on to your home for lack of a better term. you meet up with friends and relatives. You find yr in a place where there's no suffering so you have fun doing whatever you have always wanted to do. Maybe that's taking up piano or art at the local learning center of your choice. In time a guide or counselor shows up and invites you to sit down and discuss coming back to another incarnation on earth-if you want to. You don't have to. If you do you investigate your options of parents and location and likely future events.
Of course most people simply exist because they don't have the means to really live, whatever that may be❓But why all this concern about what happens after death❓ It is not in our hands. How about focusing on what happens in life and what really matters, if anything at all❓ To be born is chance, but of course we are so full of our own self importance, that we want to assign divine meaning and purpose to it. I vouch there is no meaning and life will forever remain a mystery, a mystery that we take with us to the grave. Dust is our destiny. Get over it and accept it. We are nothing special and would do well to start being less narcissistic.
If she knows what happens after death I would like her to recommend a few stocks I should buy and a race horse or two. And I say this as a Buddhist meditator
This is a wonderful conversation! It was such a honour to meet her.
Excellent discussion!!!!
I was in critical care in a coma on ECMO for 14 days followed by intensive care - I "died" twice an incredible experience which has enabled me not to fear death and help my partner and my mother pass peacefully. Listening to Penny I am not the person I was before and my whole live is unrecognisable
Thank you for sharing your experience Nikki - incredible to hear that you now no longer fear death and as a result it's changed your life!
…I followed her for a while …love her work and wish I could meet her…wonderful work indeed!
Thank you! A gentle yet profound conversation. Volume disappears in the very last minute.
What she said about concious being primary is so resonates with me 17:20.
Amazingly interesting conversation, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much Penny sartori, Maitreyabandhu and Adhisthana. Really inspiring conversion on near death experience 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks Shotbhit! We are glad that you enjoyed it!
Indeed wonderful conversation, thank you gratefully for making and sharing this video, this lady started a new path and changed the world! ❤
wonderful conversation! I wish I could hear more of such ...I dont know what more to say...just wish somehow I know more about this.....sorry..
Such a rich and wonderful conversation, thank you both. Lots to ponder. I wonder how these near death experiences relate to those that can be experienced by some in meditation and spiritual experiences, for example experiencing light and a feeling of love as well as visions
Dear Rainbow. Thanks a lot for your comment and giving us also more to ponder. We are following this topic with a Live Discussion to explore this in more depth. Follow us on Instagram @Adhisthana and in our website www.adhsithana.org in the Nature of Mind.
If you miss the live event we will still post it at our website. THANKS for contributing!
Really enjoyed this conversation, there's so much we just don't know but think we do! She also looks very familiar too?
You Tube is full of NDE videos and are so interesting. Anita Morjani's Ted X talk - Dying to be Me - based upon her book - is really worth a watch.
Thanks for the recommendation! :)
So inspired listening to the conversation
I remember a doctor in Southampton wrote a book about this. The staff in the hospital said about this. I remember a operation i had that was not successful. The surgeon denied it but with support of my GP at the time. I wrote a letter detailing what i heard during the operation, the conversation he had, I was soon brought in and an offer to pay for it privately. I asked him to do it and put things right. Other experiences is my belief that when you pass the pain is gone but when brought back the pain is intense. I find it interesting about the hands as my son has a syndrome where he hands are clubbed. He has become very spiritual so a area i shall ask him to explore. One thing that has kept me alive is mediation as it slowed my breathing until help arrives. Experiences i cannot change for buddhism but i can live with.
Interesting - do you remember the name of the book by the doctor in Southampton? All the best to you and your son.
@@AdhisthanaTriratna I have just purchased 'What happens when we die by Dr Sam Parnia who study was at Southampton General Hospital. I have also just ordered Penny Sartori book.
@@kimeames8569 Hope you enjoy them! :D
5:40 - patient bursting into tears and then dying - have you explored it any further elsewhere?
Dear Moi Moi;
Thanks a lot for watching the video and placing this question.
Here are Adhisthana we cannot respond to your query but we will forward it to Dr Penny Sartori.
Much Metta;
Hi,
what do you think, do i see my loved deceased Mum again after my own Dead?
I lost her 3 months ago and the Loss is not to overcome for me.
What can i Do???
Thank you.
Dear Firehunt Breaking, I’m deeply sorry about the loss of your mum : although they’re many teachings around on this area of human experience, the one I’ve found perhaps most helpful personally is “The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying” by Sogyal Rinpoche. You must look beyond Sogyal Rinpoches personal failings as a man, and dwell on the truths which, it’s just my view, I think are expressed with in it. It’s deep dharma and can’t be sullied by his unskillful actions. I think you might find with in it’s pages some practices to help you and your dear mum. If you don’t wish to buy it you can listen to it free on TH-cam. As well as searching for Triratna teachers on this area of life you might experience great benefit listen to Thich Nhat Hahn talks on life and death, these are also available on TH-cam. I’m not seeking to provide you with this answers, as I don’t know them myself but what I’d like to convey to you is that you are not alone in your suffering, and i wish you only well in making sense of your dear mother’s death. I hope you don’t mind what I’ve said above and I hope it helps.
Dear Cedric;
Thanks for having taking the time to share this beautiful post to support Firehunt Breaking. Much Metta.
Dear Firehunt Breaking.
I’m so sorry to hear about that, some losses are very hard to bear at times and it can take a long time to lessen. Unfortunately, your specific question is unanswerable, even the buddha did not try to answer it, but through meditation and practising awareness we do develop more opening to new experiences in the way that Penny Sartori describes in her interview. And in those open moments of awareness many meetings are possible on many different levels. And yet, within that, grief will always be part of our human experience, the Buddha also expressed his pain in the days after the death of his closest disciples Sariputta and Moggallana, when he remarked, “This assembly, O bhikkhus, appears indeed empty to me, now that Sariputta and Moggallana have passed away” (SN 47.14).
You mother is still with you, you need to be open to this. When I was dying my grandmother was "with me". I have been helped enormously with my grief for my mother by a spiritual man who has encouraged me to ask her to come to me.
I sure hope she's familiar with Bernardo Kastrup.
Relatives fight over what they can get of your's. But you don't give a shit cuz yr body has worn out and you have left it and moved on to your home for lack of a better term. you meet up with friends and relatives. You find yr in a place where there's no suffering so you have fun doing whatever you have always wanted to do. Maybe that's taking up piano or art at the local learning center of your choice. In time a guide or counselor shows up and invites you to sit down and discuss coming back to another incarnation on earth-if you want to. You don't have to. If you do you investigate your options of parents and location and likely future events.
Of course most people simply exist because they don't have the means to really live, whatever that may be❓But why all this concern about what happens after death❓ It is not in our hands. How about focusing on what happens in life and what really matters, if anything at all❓ To be born is chance, but of course we are so full of our own self importance, that we want to assign divine meaning and purpose to it. I vouch there is no meaning and life will forever remain a mystery, a mystery that we take with us to the grave. Dust is our destiny. Get over it and accept it. We are nothing special and would do well to start being less narcissistic.
If she knows what happens after death I would like her to recommend a few stocks I should buy and a race horse or two. And I say this as a Buddhist meditator
Most people doing NDE research don’t claim to know what happens after death. They remain skeptical because there is know proof.