Good job, I am ex security for them back then. I stayed with Izzy mostly because I got in recovery in 91, your research is great. You got everything down right right i was road security with Izzy and his ju ju hounds and we toured with black crows, those last shows were heartbreaking
I quit after 5 Minutes! There are really 3 Parts? 🤦♂ The beginning is poorly missing, their lady manager and how hard she worked to get the GEFFEN contract. The record Appetite wasn`s even touched for weeks......GEFFEN personally kicked MTV`s ass to lay once Welcome to the jungle... ...and so on! Thumbs DOWN! 🙄
the story of axl crying as stevens hospital bedside is insane that's true friendship right there, missing out on recognition by not being in a movie to make sure ur friend isn't dying bc some stripper spiked his beer
Born in the early 80s. Lived in Seattle when grunge dethroned GnR but 30 years later I go back and listen to axl and crew way more than I ll listen to nirvana. Maybe it’s just me.
I don't think guns n' roses was dethroned by grunge. Just based on old videos or statistics, guns n' roses was selling out stadiums and their use your illusion records were top. They're one of the few bands that made it out of the '80s. Grunge never dethroned Guns N Roses. They were at the top of their game and popularity when they split. Guns was 1 of the best selling bands on the planet when Nirvana was peaking.They split cuz over all kinds of internal problems didn't they?
@@choice12ozborne maybe it is because of your age and not being around at that time but guns and roses was the IT rock band in late 80s and early 90s. then temple of the dog, stone temple pilots, nirvana, sound garden, blind Melon Pearl Jam and others came and Guns N’ Roses was just not the same status any longer. It couldn’t compete with this new sound. Looking back it wasn’t so much a knock on guns roses it was just a different sound came to the forefront. But if you were there at that time and especially being in Seattle we teenagers felt it very much was a dethroning of 80s hair metal ….which Guns N’ Roses was the king of …. But to Guns s credit they were also something much greater. Michael Jackson was also still top of the charts when nirvana came and knocked him off too. Gnr just didn’t have the same type of grimey dirty feel grunge had. And grunge was aesthetically and musically very different than gnr. That coupled with Guns N’ Roses internal issues gave a definite changing of the guard. Maybe that’s a better way to say it it than saying it was a dethroning. Guns N’ Roses has proven to have staying power (especially in the last decade) but after use your illusion came out there really wasn’t much more from gnr for the rest of the 90s. By the mid 90s no one knew what was going on with them and no one really cared as much either because a new type of rock had hit that scene.
GnR was anti hair band, anti 80s music. GnR, Soundgarden and Neil Young's Freedom and Ragged Glory albums were really the first to destroy the 1980s music scene that was hot from 1982 to 1990. I listened to a lot of local bands on mixed tapes and local CDs in the late 80s so you could hear what was coming before it exploded in 1990. If you were in Seattle in the late 80s you could hear the demise of New Wave and hair bands coming. RHCP was another band that came up in the 80s and had their own thing going on that was not grunge and not 80s sounding.
I love love Love LOVE them both but the difference is i listen to an entire GnR album opposed certain songs when it comes to Nirvana. Axl is such a charismatic front man though, literally one of the best of all time and I honestly don't think there are many who can even hold a candle in that regard he was actually pretty calculated so is no surprise there is literally no matching Axl Rose.. sorry if I sound biased lol but it's probably because I am! lol.
Appetite will never be copied or ripped off by anybody else. Because only the original members are capable of the magic that they made. They changed the whole game!!!
I’ve been a fan of GNR since 88, I’ve seen a lot of documentaries and read a lot of books, this really is a great documentary, usually when I watch a documentary on GNR it’s full of stupid mistakes on the band but this was very accurate, well done! Keep up the great work and we all look forward to part 2!!!!!
I quit after 5 Minutes! There are really 3 Parts? 🤦♂ The beginning is poorly missing, their lady manager and how hard she worked to get the GEFFEN contract. The record Appetite wasn`s even touched for weeks......GEFFEN personally kicked MTV`s ass to lay once Welcome to the jungle... ...and so on! Thumbs DOWN! 🙄
This has great UYI era tour video footage that I've never seen before. Thank you so much for this. I am praying to God Axl will find it in his heart to release more of the pro shot concert video from the UYI and AFD tours.
Been a fan since day 1 back in the late 80s. Followed their career, and have been motivated and inspired by this band - this documentary is off the charts - "excellent". Great job. Good to see all the members clean and in control of their own destinies. "ART IS POWERFUL" - W. Axl Rose
...and I remember a short interview by Jaymz Hatfield! "We learned a lot of them....how not to be"! Funny, reminds me on dirty harry! Opinions are like assholse Everyhas one!
I was born in 1981. I distinctly remember my mom rocking out to Appetite after it was released along her friends. I just remember hearing Axel sounding like a demon as he absolutely tears into Welcome go the Jungle. As a 7 yr old kid it left a huge impression on me. GnR has been one of my top 3 bands ever since and that album still sounds good every single time I listen.
Thats awesome the music from the 80s will never be topped imo im glad you younger generation appreciates the music from then. Im 56 and lived through the 80s miraculously it was the best years of my life
I was at their Use Your Illusion tour gig in Slane Castle Ireland in 1992 and fell victim to Axls tardiness. After Faith No More had finished their support set I think the crowd was waiting for 3 or 4 hours before Axl and the band appeared on stage. The crowd were rightly pissed and I've never seen so many empty paper coke cups flung into the air in one go. Apparently for much of the wait Axl was holed up in his city centre hotel. It kind of spoiled the experience for me but I remained a massive fan. I will however never go to a GnR gig again!
You know what REALLY sucks about that? If you have a NICE BUZZ going at 9PM ..... 4 hours later it's gonna be GONE and you're gonna be TIRED and HUNGRY !! Axl is an abusive person - because he was abused himself as a kid.
Same here Skid Row and G n R in Saratoga New York… Axl wasn’t feeling it I guess. Axl was 3 hours late (the rest of the band seems pissed) it all ended bad, all over the local news.
When I first listened to Appetite in 1987, then listened again and again and again. I wore that cassette tape out. It was that good. My opinion still to this day, it is one of the greatest rock albums ever made. Still listen to it to this day. It gave a shot in the arm of rock at the time. Guns N Roses are one of my favorite bands. When Steven was sacked, Duff, Izzy and Slash left,the gang of the OG 5 guys was gone. It wasn’t Guns anymore. Just a shell. I loved Velvet Revolver, and love Slash with Myles Kennedy now.
Slash and Myles Kennedy are magical together. Velvet Revolver was also great. Duff tried to help Scott with his addiction, but it backfired and Duff fell off the wagon.
Yes it was Guns' after Slash and co had quit. Axl IS and HAS ALWAYS BEEN the band leader. Since day one. Deal with it already and Myles Kennedy sucks balls.
Definitely happy for axl rose looks healthy running around like a maniac at that age very impressive!!! It’s nice to see them all still alive all looking so good playing so good !!!
GnR was my favorite band growing up... and really influenced my early guitar playing. Seeing these rare documentaries on them is very cool!! Love the video
"The Mr. Brownstone" speech wasnt just about Slash lol This is why he said "too many people in this organization dancing with..." - he meant Steven, Izzy, AND Slash. It's just Slash who took it the hardest and made the biggest fuss backstage, PLUS, Axl's imagined rivalry for the leadership role had him singling out Slash more than the others at this time. He always viewed Izzy and Steven as below him, but he saw Slash as a major force and just as big of a presence. So it played out as it did, due to insecurities about Slash's popularity and power, whether Slash cared for that shit or not. FUCK I love this band. My faves of all time, easily. \m/ GREAT piece of work here!
Great shows in Bs As. Axel talk to the audience and the translator made a great job by "smoothing" his speech! so the audience was pleased and the show continued wonderfully. A lot energy from the beginning till the end!
I was 16 yrs old in 87 and fell in love with GNR from day 1 and it was a sound we needed back then because everything else was just same old sound from all the same old bands GNR changed that. Just sad they did have way too much drama due to Axles narcissistic behaviour
Well damn, in all these yrs I didn't know about Adler. This is one of the saddest band stories I ever heard. I see both sides of it but damn they should have stuck by Steve more. I feel bad for him.
It stinks but at the same time he was so deep into addiction he couldn’t perform at all. You can’t just put everything into an endless hold. But I do think it’s bullshit how they essentially screwed him of royalties but Axl did that to all of them. It would’ve been nice to at least stick around as friends but after firing him from the band I don’t think there was ever realistic chances of that even if they hand pulled the royalties BS
I watched Adlers Appetite band some years back and he killed it ! We all had a blast at that show !! Tiny club in Kentucky and it was a great vibe ! And Steven was cool as could be !
First off, Appetite is easily the greatest heavy rock album of the 80’s. At the time the genre was suffering from the plethora of “Hair Band” releases and was fizzling out. When this album dropped, it completely changed the game over night. Whatever came after that you can thank GNR. Now, I saw them during their run with Metallica in 92. This show was at Mile High Stadium in Denver. Metallica opened on that night and absolutely killed it. One of the best Metallica shows I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen a lot of them. The freakn stadium was visibly bouncing, it was nuts. With the crowd on a crazy high GNR FINALLY comes out, 2 hours late. The crowd was chanting Metallica, Metallica over and over until GNR finally showed. They opened up with Welcome To The Jungle, with these giant crabs on either side of the stage. First song was insane. Problem was, Axl left. He walked off stage toward the end of the song and we didn’t see him again for 30 minutes. Duff sang, Slash sang, they did their best to cover and during their set we all started chanting, “Metallica, Metallica” again! Axl finally came back out for a couple songs and walked off again. It was a bummer for a huge GNR fan. Metallica far out showed GNR, hands down. I saw them again in Phoenix after they got back together. They were ok but didn’t come close to capturing that magic they once had. Voice was off, music was meh. It’s really unfortunate they couldn’t keep it all together. For the limited number of records they made, not counting the Spaghetti Incident or anything post band break-up, they could have made some incredible music. Mental health for Axl, drugs and drinking for the rest, Rock N Roll baby.
@@MoneyGrip70 Metallica is metal and they are the biggest most influential metal band of all time. Love them or hate them I guess, metal is Metallica and Metallica is metal. Just about everything on Octane (Sirius radio) in some way was influenced by Metallica and even Megadeth. Those guys were influenced by Motörhead, Sabbath and the barely existing metal genre fight before Metallica.
I barely see them in Montreal 😂 one eyes drunk closed when shit happend to metallica n Axl say fck u after 1 r 2 song turn in AWESOME RIOT with nobody sober 🤟🤟🤟
Yessss! Saw them at the old redskins arena in what? 92? Amazing. Went with my dad and best friend from high school. I was mortified when the chics started ripping their shirts and bras off lol but that memory lives in the forefront of my mind forever. Lost my dad at age 21 so it’s awesome to play that day back Edited the year I saw them :)
@@masterofwit339 I didn't see them back in the day, but I saw the 'Axl and friends' tour with Buckethesd, etc. twice, around 2010 or whenever that was. They came on stsge at 11.30 one time and 11.45 the other! I mean, they're absolutely one of my favourite bands of all time, but I'm amazed at the devotion fans show them, having been treated like that, you know?
Axl's looks deteriorated something fierce during the 2 years they toured for these albums. He was a good looking dude when they played their warm ups at the Ritz. By the time the tour ended he was wearing his own oversized merch and his hair was falling out. The courtroom combover in the Versace suit is something to behold.
I listened to the L.A. concert live on the radio. Didn't someone report Mick Jagger had put a drunk'n Axl against the wall before the show yelling at him,..."this is a business,..get on that stage." Never hear about that? Ceskoslovenska.
Nah ,that was a rumor...when the stones came out to do their set that night ater Axl had his meltdown, Mick dedicated their song "mixed emotions " to Axl. Lolol..,..
Spot on. I agree 1000%. I am stuck musically in the '80s and the 90s. Everything after 98 or 99 in my opinion.. not okay not everything not absolutely everything but 90% of the music that came out after the 90s is absolute shit. Every genre. What a time it was to be alive as a kid back then. I was 7 years old when appetite for destruction came out... Born in 79 I'm definitely a child of the 80s and the 90s I stood in line so many times.. every year.. between 1988 or 89 right up through like 1997 or 1998.. every single year multiple albums came out by the best bands. The grunge explosion out of seattle.. we were kids when the alternative scene blew up and the punk scene as well.. I believe that some of the best music and lyrics ever written were in the 80s and the 90s. I cannot overstate what an amazing time musically that was. The original bands of certain genres. And regarding guns and roses... It's my opinion that the first two albums appetite for destruction and lies were like a gritty hard rock kind of in your face sound.. then there was use your illusion one and two and the record company fucked us by releasing both of them on the same day as separate albums.. that was like gritty alternative style hard Rock. I don't really know what the hell was up with the spaghetti incident that was all over the fucking place pardon my language. Everything after the spaghetti incident That's not guns and roses. That's just axle with a different band using the same name. Anyway thanks for reading my rant. Stay safe and God bless 🙏🙏🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🖕🖕🏴🏴
I've always said that if you buy a guitar, it should come with a warning which says: "BY PURCHASING THIS, YOU AGREE THAT IF YOU MAKE IT BIG, YOU'LL HAVE TO JUST PUT UP WITH A HIGHLY IRRITATING PRIME DONNA FOR A LEAD SINGER. DON'T ASK HOW OR WHY. JUST ACCEPT IT." I do want to hear the story with Steven Adler because I've heard it was the band who got him into heroin in the first place. At the same time, if you are drummer of a major band, recording for a major album, you've got to have your shit together. It doesn't matter if Matt Sorum wasn't sober, provided he could hold his shit together. That being said, Axl was right to be the sober leader of the band and pushing others to get their shit together. However, he completely lost his sense of reality for many years after that.
That's why Izzy never wanted to be in a band with a lead singer again. If I remember correctly, it was one of the reasons he turned down a spot in Velvet Revolver.
I distinctly remember in the middle 80’s, GNR was basically unknown, and opening for Motley Crue. When the tour came to our town, my BF went to see the show and the next day, all she could talk about was how the opening band put on a WAY better performance than Motley. Not long after, they blew up like a nuclear bomb.
I quit after 5 Minutes! There are really 3 Parts? 🤦♂ The beginning is poorly missing, their lady manager and how hard she worked to get the GEFFEN contract. The record Appetite wasn`s even touched for weeks......GEFFEN personally kicked MTV`s ass to lay once Welcome to the jungle... ...and so on! Thumbs DOWN! 🙄
43:10 I attended this show in first or second row and this was so bizarre seeing a naked man with pizza on stage. This was pre internet and social media so I never found out what was happening. But I highly doubt that Shannon Hoon was arrested for this act. Swiss police is not as strict or prude as the US.
44:55 I'm from Argentina, I understand how something like that can happen here so easily and it just pisses me off. Not surprised at all. Bunch of wankers, the country is in flames almost literally and 50 police officers go and try to find some lines of coke in a rock band hotel. They should search the house of the president at the time, Carlos Saul Menem, the guy said in a public speech that Argentina would be the first country to have comercial flights that would go to the stratosphere and then decided where to go so you could get anywhere in the world in minutes. The guy was running the country and possibly on crack , but they'd send 50 police officers to check if GnR had a joint.
I quit after 5 Minutes! There are really 3 Parts? 🤦♂ The beginning is poorly missing, their lady manager and how hard she worked to get the GEFFEN contract. The record Appetite wasn`s even touched for weeks......GEFFEN personally kicked MTV`s ass to lay once Welcome to the jungle... ...and so on! Thumbs DOWN! 🙄
Jeff Beck didn't perform that night because his hearing got injured during soundcheck, when he was on the drum riser, and Matt hit his crash cymbal close by. That shit would def rock your eardrums, especially that close. ALSO, that PPV event is widely considered an act by Axl, extending the olive branch to Slash, in an gesture of friendship to ease tensions, as the featured artists were ALL among Slash's favorites. \m/
I've been in rehab with people JUST like this. I was like this. It's not cool, it's not fun. It's f**king tragic is what it is. These guys could play guitars and drums and sing. Besides that there is no difference.welcome to the jungle, your gonna die.
I read this. I met a prodigy in about 1967 named Axl Rose and am trying to find answers as someone is missing and it appears to have to do with some corruption in the entertainment world. I'm using a nickname. The boy I met was a prodigy from an orphanage from another country who I met at an Expo daycare. I recalled this 2x in elementary school, then saw this Axl Rose on MTV and when I returned to the US for good after years abroad tried to learn what I could when I saw some gangs for illogical reasons were targeting my family. The book was pretty upsetting. I go for more tranquil things, but I still can't figure out why this other man is using the same name? I'm wondering how corrupt was that orphanage program. Any good feedback?
Kudos. I'm a fan since '87 in the UK, being just old enough to see the sensational headlines and KNEW I had to know more about this band. This Documentary (I'm using capital D, it's that good) is condensed AF, but there's very little fluff here and a whole lot of HONEST content in the telling. Actually, probably the most honest I've seen thus far. Sure, stuff was left out, but what is included are vast majority the most important bits. I wish you luck in the future parts, I hope to be as impressed by those as I am by this.
@15:16 I love her style, the dress with the boots, she rocks that look, so cute. Back when women knew how to dress and gave a damn about how they look. Sigh...I miss the 90's.
I saw GNR with the cult because when that tour was going on The Cult was one of my favorite bands. I'll never forget seeing GNR with the cult and my dad says I guess you've got another band on the list to follow. My dad was super cool because he was in a band even though the music was opposite he still loved music and he knew my love for all types of music was vast and he promised me as a very young girl that he'd take me to see all kinds of bands as long as I kept up my piano lessons which he was teaching me and by 7th grade I added drums and the trumpet to learn. I got to see so many shows because of my dad and I'm forever grateful to my dad for that as well. He worked as a regional manager over a life insurance company so we were constantly traveling and at each meeting in whatever state we were in I'd find shows so to and traveling to different countries I'd find the shows to see and it was so cool and I'm glad I had a father who understood how important it was to see live shows. He said one of his biggest concerts was the beach boys and Elvis.
Same...in the early 90s you never knew what you were gonna get...caught them with FNM n Metallica...fantastic show. Years later, 2006 I think I seen them with Skid Row opening...was better than the festival tour. Got lucky.
You should really check out Life of Agony when Keith Caputo was their lead singer. He is this little tiny guy with the biggest voice. Absolutely amazing singer. LOA is an amazing alternative/metal band from New York. Now you will find Keith under Mina as he is transgender now. Just an amazing singer. Im a true metal head through and through. Slayer, metallicas first 4, megadeth , all of which ive seen live, but ive never been as impressed as i was when i heard this massive sound coming from this tiny guy. My favorite concert ever was LOA at a bar in Columbus called Chelsies. He is amazing
I saw them in Baltimore before appetite broke big Izzy fell off the stage Slash was so high he was playing a different song than the rest of the band and Axle was wondering WTF 🤦🏻♂️
Good job, I am ex security for them back then. I stayed with Izzy mostly because I got in recovery in 91, your research is great. You got everything down right right i was road security with Izzy and his ju ju hounds and we toured with black crows, those last shows were heartbreaking
I quit after 5 Minutes! There are really 3 Parts? 🤦♂
The beginning is poorly missing, their lady manager and how hard she worked to get the GEFFEN contract.
The record Appetite wasn`s even touched for weeks......GEFFEN personally kicked MTV`s ass to lay once Welcome to the jungle...
...and so on! Thumbs DOWN! 🙄
So you were there. How do you know so much.
@@Wesmancan???
I smell roadie poop. BS
That’s way kool my brother
I’ve always loved GNR. I just turned 75 and I still listen to all of my GNR CDs.
As crazy as AXL was, he was the only sober member ironically.. even Slash once said that AXL was only addicted to cigarettes..
He was sober most of the time lol
He's a rock star go back and watch some of his live performances, he's so F***** High 😆😆😆
Which sucks at the same time. It’s taken a toll on his voice
Wasn’t “coma” about axl ODing on a bottle of pills?
Cigarettes kill more people in the world than cocaine and heroin put together.
Yeah ..... NO!
the story of axl crying as stevens hospital bedside is insane
that's true friendship right there, missing out on recognition by not being in a movie to make sure ur friend isn't dying bc some stripper spiked his beer
Sure… I should have used that one when I overdosed on heroin.
@@wes788411😂I was thinking 💭 the same…it wasn’t the 💉 it was the 💃 😅
But then Steven sued him! Which is ugly
Born in the early 80s. Lived in Seattle when grunge dethroned GnR but 30 years later I go back and listen to axl and crew way more than I ll listen to nirvana. Maybe it’s just me.
I don't think guns n' roses was dethroned by grunge. Just based on old videos or statistics, guns n' roses was selling out stadiums and their use your illusion records were top. They're one of the few bands that made it out of the '80s. Grunge never dethroned Guns N Roses. They were at the top of their game and popularity when they split. Guns was 1 of the best selling bands on the planet when Nirvana was peaking.They split cuz over all kinds of internal problems didn't they?
@@choice12ozborne maybe it is because of your age and not being around at that time but guns and roses was the IT rock band in late 80s and early 90s. then temple of the dog, stone temple pilots, nirvana, sound garden, blind Melon Pearl Jam and others came and Guns N’ Roses was just not the same status any longer. It couldn’t compete with this new sound. Looking back it wasn’t so much a knock on guns roses it was just a different sound came to the forefront. But if you were there at that time and especially being in Seattle we teenagers felt it very much was a dethroning of 80s hair metal ….which Guns N’ Roses was the king of …. But to Guns s credit they were also something much greater. Michael Jackson was also still top of the charts when nirvana came and knocked him off too.
Gnr just didn’t have the same type of grimey dirty feel grunge had. And grunge was aesthetically and musically very different than gnr.
That coupled with Guns N’ Roses internal issues gave a definite changing of the guard.
Maybe that’s a better way to say it it than saying it was a dethroning.
Guns N’ Roses has proven to have staying power (especially in the last decade) but after use your illusion came out there really wasn’t much more from gnr for the rest of the 90s. By the mid 90s no one knew what was going on with them and no one really cared as much either because a new type of rock had hit that scene.
True. Nirvana is awesome but really gets its energy from teen angst.
GnR was anti hair band, anti 80s music. GnR, Soundgarden and Neil Young's Freedom and Ragged Glory albums were really the first to destroy the 1980s music scene that was hot from 1982 to 1990. I listened to a lot of local bands on mixed tapes and local CDs in the late 80s so you could hear what was coming before it exploded in 1990. If you were in Seattle in the late 80s you could hear the demise of New Wave and hair bands coming. RHCP was another band that came up in the 80s and had their own thing going on that was not grunge and not 80s sounding.
I love love Love LOVE them both but the difference is i listen to an entire GnR album opposed certain songs when it comes to Nirvana. Axl is such a charismatic front man though, literally one of the best of all time and I honestly don't think there are many who can even hold a candle in that regard he was actually pretty calculated so is no surprise there is literally no matching Axl Rose.. sorry if I sound biased lol but it's probably because I am! lol.
Appetite will never be copied or ripped off by anybody else. Because only the original members are capable of the magic that they made. They changed the whole game!!!
I believe Appetite For Destruction is the first grunge album.
They never again reached the heights of that first album
So true
I wouldn't say changed.
@@Jacen13grunge? No way. Its Rock through and through.
Being 51 an a follower of this band since it started !! Epic moments in history 😎 🙌 👌
I’ve been a fan of GNR since 88, I’ve seen a lot of documentaries and read a lot of books, this really is a great documentary, usually when I watch a documentary on GNR it’s full of stupid mistakes on the band but this was very accurate, well done! Keep up the great work and we all look forward to part 2!!!!!
I have "Watch you Bleed". What other books do you recommend?
@@Reque92 That book has more of a pro Axl slant. Read Slash's book to get his perspective.
Who cares
@@SweptundertherugI do...
@@RolandSpecialSauce I do too
Besides how well this documentary is done, the quality of the footage it's amazing. Thank you for this work!
Heel yeah!
I quit after 5 Minutes! There are really 3 Parts? 🤦♂
The beginning is poorly missing, their lady manager and how hard she worked to get the GEFFEN contract.
The record Appetite wasn`s even touched for weeks......GEFFEN personally kicked MTV`s ass to lay once Welcome to the jungle...
...and so on! Thumbs DOWN! 🙄
This was the best documentary ever! thanks for this. Great job!
This has great UYI era tour video footage that I've never seen before. Thank you so much for this. I am praying to God Axl will find it in his heart to release more of the pro shot concert video from the UYI and AFD tours.
Been a fan since day 1 back in the late 80s. Followed their career, and have been motivated and inspired by this band - this documentary is off the charts - "excellent". Great job. Good to see all the members clean and in control of their own destinies. "ART IS POWERFUL" - W. Axl Rose
True
...and I remember a short interview by Jaymz Hatfield!
"We learned a lot of them....how not to be"!
Funny, reminds me on dirty harry!
Opinions are like assholse Everyhas one!
I saw the skin and bones tour and it absolutely amazing!! Especially the acoustic set🤘🏻
I was born in 1981. I distinctly remember my mom rocking out to Appetite after it was released along her friends. I just remember hearing Axel sounding like a demon as he absolutely tears into Welcome go the Jungle. As a 7 yr old kid it left a huge impression on me. GnR has been one of my top 3 bands ever since and that album still sounds good every single time I listen.
Thats awesome the music from the 80s will never be topped imo im glad you younger generation appreciates the music from then. Im 56 and lived through the 80s miraculously it was the best years of my life
Great music
Loved this. Lots of memories. I’m not the biggest music fan. It came up on my TH-cam and I thought “why not”, really glad I watched it.
Same
I was at their Use Your Illusion tour gig in Slane Castle Ireland in 1992 and fell victim to Axls tardiness. After Faith No More had finished their support set I think the crowd was waiting for 3 or 4 hours before Axl and the band appeared on stage. The crowd were rightly pissed and I've never seen so many empty paper coke cups flung into the air in one go. Apparently for much of the wait Axl was holed up in his city centre hotel. It kind of spoiled the experience for me but I remained a massive fan. I will however never go to a GnR gig again!
You ain't missing anything
You know what REALLY sucks about that? If you have a NICE BUZZ going at 9PM ..... 4 hours later it's gonna be GONE and you're gonna be TIRED and HUNGRY !! Axl is an abusive person - because he was abused himself as a kid.
Same here Skid Row and G n R in Saratoga New York… Axl wasn’t feeling it I guess. Axl was 3 hours late (the rest of the band seems pissed) it all ended bad, all over the local news.
Once someone in the warm up band said "Axl, where were you?" and he said "I had to take a shower" . @@SicilianStrega13
Looking forward to PART 2. This was awesome!
where is part 2?
When I first listened to Appetite in 1987, then listened again and again and again. I wore that cassette tape out. It was that good. My opinion still to this day, it is one of the greatest rock albums ever made. Still listen to it to this day. It gave a shot in the arm of rock at the time. Guns N Roses are one of my favorite bands. When Steven was sacked, Duff, Izzy and Slash left,the gang of the OG 5 guys was gone. It wasn’t Guns anymore. Just a shell. I loved Velvet Revolver, and love Slash with Myles Kennedy now.
Slash and Myles Kennedy are magical together. Velvet Revolver was also great. Duff tried to help Scott with his addiction, but it backfired and Duff fell off the wagon.
Yes it was Guns' after Slash and co had quit. Axl IS and HAS ALWAYS BEEN the band leader. Since day one. Deal with it already and Myles Kennedy sucks balls.
Great music
That was part of the problem though, wasn't it? Too many guys taking too many shots in the arm? Just saying...
Definitely happy for axl rose looks healthy running around like a maniac at that age very impressive!!! It’s nice to see them all still alive all looking so good playing so good !!!
GnR was my favorite band growing up... and really influenced my early guitar playing. Seeing these rare documentaries on them is very cool!! Love the video
I have been listening to the Gunners since late 80's - it never gets old! Fantastic, explosive, poised and so damn rocking!
i saw gnr in 91. best show i ever saw except my first concert ever in 85.
"The Mr. Brownstone" speech wasnt just about Slash lol This is why he said "too many people in this organization dancing with..." - he meant Steven, Izzy, AND Slash. It's just Slash who took it the hardest and made the biggest fuss backstage, PLUS, Axl's imagined rivalry for the leadership role had him singling out Slash more than the others at this time. He always viewed Izzy and Steven as below him, but he saw Slash as a major force and just as big of a presence. So it played out as it did, due to insecurities about Slash's popularity and power, whether Slash cared for that shit or not.
FUCK I love this band. My faves of all time, easily. \m/
GREAT piece of work here!
No love for Duff?
Great shows in Bs As. Axel talk to the audience and the translator made a great job by "smoothing" his speech! so the audience was pleased and the show continued wonderfully. A lot energy from the beginning till the end!
I was 16 yrs old in 87 and fell in love with GNR from day 1 and it was a sound we needed back then because everything else was just same old sound from all the same old bands GNR changed that. Just sad they did have way too much drama due to Axles narcissistic behaviour
Thank you for the video!
Good shit man ,great job.
Well damn, in all these yrs I didn't know about Adler. This is one of the saddest band stories I ever heard. I see both sides of it but damn they should have stuck by Steve more. I feel bad for him.
It stinks but at the same time he was so deep into addiction he couldn’t perform at all. You can’t just put everything into an endless hold. But I do think it’s bullshit how they essentially screwed him of royalties but Axl did that to all of them. It would’ve been nice to at least stick around as friends but after firing him from the band I don’t think there was ever realistic chances of that even if they hand pulled the royalties BS
It's UNBELIEVABLE that these guys managed to survive a 2 Year 190 shows w/The illusion tour..That is hard on a band that actually like eachother
They survived it but it was largely the end of the band as everyone knew it. But their reunion tour was 175 shows recently which is just wild.
Amazing job, great documentary!
AXL had the face like an angel 👼
He was insanely good looking.
+ with a bi-polar personality.
But what about now?
Supposedly he had botox injections in the early 2000's that was not for the better!
What a BAD dresser on stage though Cringe. @@SteveKaynan
Wow 😍 great documentary!! Keep up the good work, greetings from Holland
We idolize them we were teens, but yeah bring back memories. My friend had same type hair as Axel. Yeah good time and great band❤
Good stuff, lots of footage I hadn't seen before!
I watched Adlers Appetite band some years back and he killed it ! We all had a blast at that show !! Tiny club in Kentucky and it was a great vibe ! And Steven was cool as could be !
thanks for this doc💜💜💜
First off, Appetite is easily the greatest heavy rock album of the 80’s. At the time the genre was suffering from the plethora of “Hair Band” releases and was fizzling out. When this album dropped, it completely changed the game over night. Whatever came after that you can thank GNR. Now, I saw them during their run with Metallica in 92. This show was at Mile High Stadium in Denver. Metallica opened on that night and absolutely killed it. One of the best Metallica shows I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen a lot of them. The freakn stadium was visibly bouncing, it was nuts. With the crowd on a crazy high GNR FINALLY comes out, 2 hours late. The crowd was chanting Metallica, Metallica over and over until GNR finally showed. They opened up with Welcome To The Jungle, with these giant crabs on either side of the stage. First song was insane. Problem was, Axl left. He walked off stage toward the end of the song and we didn’t see him again for 30 minutes. Duff sang, Slash sang, they did their best to cover and during their set we all started chanting, “Metallica, Metallica” again! Axl finally came back out for a couple songs and walked off again. It was a bummer for a huge GNR fan. Metallica far out showed GNR, hands down. I saw them again in Phoenix after they got back together. They were ok but didn’t come close to capturing that magic they once had. Voice was off, music was meh. It’s really unfortunate they couldn’t keep it all together. For the limited number of records they made, not counting the Spaghetti Incident or anything post band break-up, they could have made some incredible music. Mental health for Axl, drugs and drinking for the rest, Rock N Roll baby.
Over Sabbath, dio,motley , ratt, whitesnake, Metallica stinks
@@MoneyGrip70 Metallica is metal and they are the biggest most influential metal band of all time. Love them or hate them I guess, metal is Metallica and Metallica is metal. Just about everything on Octane (Sirius radio) in some way was influenced by Metallica and even Megadeth. Those guys were influenced by Motörhead, Sabbath and the barely existing metal genre fight before Metallica.
@@MoneyGrip70yes over all those bands GnR rules ...
Stop the fact that Axl sat by Steven’s bedside thinking one of his best friends was about to die breaks my heart.
I saw Faith no more, GnR, and Metallica at phoenix international raceway over 90,000 attended. Was amazing even more than amazing.
I barely see them in Montreal 😂
one eyes drunk closed when shit happend to metallica n Axl say fck u
after 1 r 2 song turn in
AWESOME RIOT with nobody sober 🤟🤟🤟
Were GnR really late onstage as they were always reported to be? And, if so, what was that like for everyone? Just wondering.
Yessss! Saw them at the old redskins arena in what? 92? Amazing. Went with my dad and best friend from high school. I was mortified when the chics started ripping their shirts and bras off lol but that memory lives in the forefront of my mind forever. Lost my dad at age 21 so it’s awesome to play that day back
Edited the year I saw them :)
@@TerribleEnglish yes! I forgot about that aspect. They came on like 2 hours late at the concert I was at. Crazy.
@@masterofwit339 I didn't see them back in the day, but I saw the 'Axl and friends' tour with Buckethesd, etc. twice, around 2010 or whenever that was. They came on stsge at 11.30 one time and 11.45 the other!
I mean, they're absolutely one of my favourite bands of all time, but I'm amazed at the devotion fans show them, having been treated like that, you know?
glad to see you're back in business
thanks!
Axl's looks deteriorated something fierce during the 2 years they toured for these albums. He was a good looking dude when they played their warm ups at the Ritz. By the time the tour ended he was wearing his own oversized merch and his hair was falling out. The courtroom combover in the Versace suit is something to behold.
Really great doc man!!
I listened to the L.A. concert live on the radio.
Didn't someone report Mick Jagger had put a drunk'n Axl against the wall before the show yelling at him,..."this is a business,..get on that stage."
Never hear about that?
Ceskoslovenska.
Nah ,that was a rumor...when the stones came out to do their set that night ater Axl had his meltdown, Mick dedicated their song "mixed emotions " to Axl. Lolol..,..
Childhood heroes, nothing will match what happened in the 80's and the 90's
Spot on. I agree 1000%. I am stuck musically in the '80s and the 90s. Everything after 98 or 99 in my opinion.. not okay not everything not absolutely everything but 90% of the music that came out after the 90s is absolute shit. Every genre.
What a time it was to be alive as a kid back then. I was 7 years old when appetite for destruction came out... Born in 79 I'm definitely a child of the 80s and the 90s I stood in line so many times.. every year.. between 1988 or 89 right up through like 1997 or 1998.. every single year multiple albums came out by the best bands. The grunge explosion out of seattle.. we were kids when the alternative scene blew up and the punk scene as well.. I believe that some of the best music and lyrics ever written were in the 80s and the 90s. I cannot overstate what an amazing time musically that was. The original bands of certain genres. And regarding guns and roses... It's my opinion that the first two albums appetite for destruction and lies were like a gritty hard rock kind of in your face sound.. then there was use your illusion one and two and the record company fucked us by releasing both of them on the same day as separate albums.. that was like gritty alternative style hard Rock. I don't really know what the hell was up with the spaghetti incident that was all over the fucking place pardon my language. Everything after the spaghetti incident That's not guns and roses. That's just axle with a different band using the same name. Anyway thanks for reading my rant. Stay safe and God bless 🙏🙏🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🖕🖕🏴🏴
Best decades ever!
Axl loves his band members but when he feels betrayed weather it's true or not he lashes with same passion...
Axl was the only band member that wasn't on drugs ironically..
He loves them so much he recorded having s3x with his drummers girl and putting it on the song rocket queen.. lol
Very nice documentary! Thanks!!
I've always said that if you buy a guitar, it should come with a warning which says: "BY PURCHASING THIS, YOU AGREE THAT IF YOU MAKE IT BIG, YOU'LL HAVE TO JUST PUT UP WITH A HIGHLY IRRITATING PRIME DONNA FOR A LEAD SINGER. DON'T ASK HOW OR WHY. JUST ACCEPT IT." I do want to hear the story with Steven Adler because I've heard it was the band who got him into heroin in the first place. At the same time, if you are drummer of a major band, recording for a major album, you've got to have your shit together. It doesn't matter if Matt Sorum wasn't sober, provided he could hold his shit together. That being said, Axl was right to be the sober leader of the band and pushing others to get their shit together. However, he completely lost his sense of reality for many years after that.
That's why Izzy never wanted to be in a band with a lead singer again. If I remember correctly, it was one of the reasons he turned down a spot in Velvet Revolver.
Part 2! Ya done good 👍🏼
Wow man great job!!! You put some awesome materiel together
Congratulations on this high quality video.
Curious that they talked about You Could Be Mine and Terminator, and seconds after The Sherminator appears in 18:05 , he traveled in time
My 1st tape was appetite! I was 6yr when I got..sucha great record!!
Love their music, but I would never have wasted money to see them live.
I saw the 92 tour with Metallica at the old 3 Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh! Great show!
Great job. Keep up the good work 👍.
Hands down the greatest GnR doc ever
Thank you for such excellent content and production.
Axl went very weird in the illusion era
He grew up, sobered up and got professional
Such a great video
thanks !
They lost me long ago. Montréal 92's !
Still listening to some Izzy...
33:50 ostia! Donde has conseguido esos fragmentos??? En youtube sw encuentran pero de muy pesima calidad de audio y video
i saw GnR open for INXS in 88 i think and i think Axl was the only person on the stage that knew where there were.
U did not
@@robertayoder2063 i most certainly did 1988 old Texxas Sradium
I distinctly remember in the middle 80’s, GNR was basically unknown, and opening for Motley Crue. When the tour came to our town, my BF went to see the show and the next day, all she could talk about was how the opening band put on a WAY better performance than Motley. Not long after, they blew up like a nuclear bomb.
Excellent. Miss the energy.
Amazing. Can’t wait to see part 2
AMAZINGLY done. Thank you for this content!! Can't wait to support you further!!
I was at the Milton Keynes Bowl gig in 93. Good show.
Nice Share ! 🖤🤘
I was twelve years old when Appetite hit and I was just getting into rock music. My parents were old country and old R&R. Great times.
Best GNR doc I've seen. Fuckin great. Deserves way more views
I quit after 5 Minutes! There are really 3 Parts? 🤦♂
The beginning is poorly missing, their lady manager and how hard she worked to get the GEFFEN contract.
The record Appetite wasn`s even touched for weeks......GEFFEN personally kicked MTV`s ass to lay once Welcome to the jungle...
...and so on! Thumbs DOWN! 🙄
What a great documentary good job. Cleveland Tennessee here waving a hand 👋
I'm from Cleveland TN too! but moved a year ago! I'm in AL now😊
43:10 I attended this show in first or second row and this was so bizarre seeing a naked man with pizza on stage. This was pre internet and social media so I never found out what was happening. But I highly doubt that Shannon Hoon was arrested for this act. Swiss police is not as strict or prude as the US.
AMAZING documentary work!!
44:55 I'm from Argentina, I understand how something like that can happen here so easily and it just pisses me off. Not surprised at all. Bunch of wankers, the country is in flames almost literally and 50 police officers go and try to find some lines of coke in a rock band hotel. They should search the house of the president at the time, Carlos Saul Menem, the guy said in a public speech that Argentina would be the first country to have comercial flights that would go to the stratosphere and then decided where to go so you could get anywhere in the world in minutes. The guy was running the country and possibly on crack , but they'd send 50 police officers to check if GnR had a joint.
Great documentary... I have seen quite a few Guns docs, they were my first love in music and good a special place in my heart.
I quit after 5 Minutes! There are really 3 Parts? 🤦♂
The beginning is poorly missing, their lady manager and how hard she worked to get the GEFFEN contract.
The record Appetite wasn`s even touched for weeks......GEFFEN personally kicked MTV`s ass to lay once Welcome to the jungle...
...and so on! Thumbs DOWN! 🙄
Una de las mejores bandas de todos los tiempos una leyenda
Jeff Beck didn't perform that night because his hearing got injured during soundcheck, when he was on the drum riser, and Matt hit his crash cymbal close by. That shit would def rock your eardrums, especially that close. ALSO, that PPV event is widely considered an act by Axl, extending the olive branch to Slash, in an gesture of friendship to ease tensions, as the featured artists were ALL among Slash's favorites. \m/
Alright mate, we’ve all read the Slash book 😂
@@screambluemurder101😅😅 he's got inside information.
GREAT JOB ! LUV U GUYS !
I've been in rehab with people JUST like this. I was like this. It's not cool, it's not fun. It's f**king tragic is what it is. These guys could play guitars and drums and sing. Besides that there is no difference.welcome to the jungle, your gonna die.
Seen all album tours and the best rock band I have ever seen 💋
I read this. I met a prodigy in about 1967 named Axl Rose and am trying to find answers as someone is missing and it appears to have to do with some corruption in the entertainment world. I'm using a nickname. The boy I met was a prodigy from an orphanage from another country who I met at an Expo daycare. I recalled this 2x in elementary school, then saw this Axl Rose on MTV and when I returned to the US for good after years abroad tried to learn what I could when I saw some gangs for illogical reasons were targeting my family. The book was pretty upsetting. I go for more tranquil things, but I still can't figure out why this other man is using the same name? I'm wondering how corrupt was that orphanage program. Any good feedback?
Fantastic job pulling it all together.
Glad you are getting this right according to my memories of the band.
Kudos. I'm a fan since '87 in the UK, being just old enough to see the sensational headlines and KNEW I had to know more about this band. This Documentary (I'm using capital D, it's that good) is condensed AF, but there's very little fluff here and a whole lot of HONEST content in the telling. Actually, probably the most honest I've seen thus far. Sure, stuff was left out, but what is included are vast majority the most important bits. I wish you luck in the future parts, I hope to be as impressed by those as I am by this.
@15:16 I love her style, the dress with the boots, she rocks that look, so cute. Back when women knew how to dress and gave a damn about how they look. Sigh...I miss the 90's.
I saw GNR with the cult because when that tour was going on The Cult was one of my favorite bands. I'll never forget seeing GNR with the cult and my dad says I guess you've got another band on the list to follow. My dad was super cool because he was in a band even though the music was opposite he still loved music and he knew my love for all types of music was vast and he promised me as a very young girl that he'd take me to see all kinds of bands as long as I kept up my piano lessons which he was teaching me and by 7th grade I added drums and the trumpet to learn. I got to see so many shows because of my dad and I'm forever grateful to my dad for that as well. He worked as a regional manager over a life insurance company so we were constantly traveling and at each meeting in whatever state we were in I'd find shows so to and traveling to different countries I'd find the shows to see and it was so cool and I'm glad I had a father who understood how important it was to see live shows. He said one of his biggest concerts was the beach boys and Elvis.
I waited in line all night for Use Your Illusion One and Two
Saw them when they were shooting Paradise City video. I loved them then and still do
Where did you get this interview from?! I’ve never seen that! 13:00
Shannon was a tortured soul. RIP Shannon. God bless Nico Hoon. BMs last album was called Nico. She has performed Change with BM a few times.
i'm impressed, great work your docu. congrats
I was lucky to see them three times and all shows were on point. Axl gave a bad ass performance each time.
Same...in the early 90s you never knew what you were gonna get...caught them with FNM n Metallica...fantastic show. Years later, 2006 I think I seen them with Skid Row opening...was better than the festival tour. Got lucky.
That was a good watch 👍🏻
The fact there still ALIVE is insane... "fuck drugs" being a drunk is bad enough...
Fascinating 👌, my goodness, can you do a part 2 ‘the wilderness years’? 👏
Really well made piece of music history
🇨🇱 greetings from a Hollywood Ca 🇺🇸
You should really check out Life of Agony when Keith Caputo was their lead singer. He is this little tiny guy with the biggest voice. Absolutely amazing singer. LOA is an amazing alternative/metal band from New York. Now you will find Keith under Mina as he is transgender now. Just an amazing singer. Im a true metal head through and through. Slayer, metallicas first 4, megadeth , all of which ive seen live, but ive never been as impressed as i was when i heard this massive sound coming from this tiny guy. My favorite concert ever was LOA at a bar in Columbus called Chelsies. He is amazing
Part 2 coming soon I hope !!!
I saw them in Baltimore before appetite broke big Izzy fell off the stage Slash was so high he was playing a different song than the rest of the band and Axle was wondering WTF 🤦🏻♂️