Deity D4 Duo Mic: The Good, the Bad, and the Harsh
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- The Deity D4 Duo is a decent mic for under $70. I like the option of having the rear mic to pick up my voice when I am behind the camera.
I think the sound quality is "ok," and if fairly harsh (front capsule), but sounds better in outdoor environments.
It still has very little competition in terms of a dual front/rear mic option for DSLR and Mirrorless cameras, I do wish it sounded less harsh, but, it's the mic I keep in my bag for the functionality.
Deity D4 Duo: amzn.to/339GRGo
Below are some affiliate links to most of the gear I use to make my videos, happy recording!
Cameras used to film this video:
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Articulating arm for my microphone: amzn.to/3f8Km2p
Backup and Cheap Microphone - Movo VXR10: amzn.to/3G9EUbi
K&F Concept Camera Tripod (Goes up to almost 7 feet!!): amzn.to/3f7x3zi
External Monitor, Atomos Shinobi: amzn.to/3tfxTSH
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The input hole is a selling point for me. I'll definitely get this mic.
Yep, really nice feature!
Great video. Listened with my studio headphones and monitors. To me your voice was very clear and intelligible. I can see how this could be a problem on smartphone speakers that lack any bass to balance the higher frequencies, but overall you sounded pretty good for a $40 mic!
Thanks for this video. Straight to the point and makes it easier for noobies like me.
You’re welcome. I’m glad the video helped!
Just bought this thanks for the useful tips
yarp!
Awesome, great review thanks. This is very helpful.
Hi there, You're welcome, I'm glad it was helpful!
Great video my man 👍Don't hear any SSes at all actually. It may be the monitors you edit with? Not sure but there are no SSes coming though on my end.
Good to know! And yes I heard fewer “s” sounds on this particular recording. But when I was setting up and testing I immediately heard fairly loud sibilance….maybe my “recordings voice warmed up after my tests.
It’s a good mic, but some harshness does come through depending on the environment.
Oh, and I edit with several destinations: 2 different brands/sets of monitors, and at least 2 pairs of different headphones. But again, on this particular recording, the sibilance wasn’t as bad. And I didn’t edit or a EA any of the audio in this recording either.
One question: what speakers or headphones are you listening on? Because I definitely hear sibilance on all of my speakers, headphones, and even AirPods and iPhone speaker, and with that harshness coming through to my ears on so many different playback devices, tells me it is present.
I’m curious as to what you’re listening on because it’s possible your speakers/headphones are overly lacking specific upper midrange or they are boosting bass (thereby masking the upper mid range. )
Let me know, I’m always interested in learning.
:)
Appreciate the video! Wondering where you purchased your D4 duo as it seems you have the "upgraded" windmuffs (Ray Valencia made a video about it a few years ago). I've been looking for this version but it seems Henrys (Canada dealer) has the older version, and I haven't been able to confirm with BH just yet. Also seems that Deity has discontinued the D4 Duo according to one of their reps, so I am unable to purchase from their site. Any information helps, thanks.
Aaawww. Deity discontinued it? Dang. It’s not a terrible mic, just a bit harsh and sibilant at times, it’s a shame…..I’m assuming that sales weren’t strong enough to warrant its continuation. I really like the dual front/rear mic design, but my guess if most people don’t look for this feature.
@@MarcusHutsell appreciate it! If you don't mind me asking, where did you pick yours up?
@mxrcusjxmes Amazon. Got it in July 2022 so aver a year and a half ago.
FYI, you can clip the cable into the foot, which has slots for that.
I didn't even look at that part, but great to know, thank you!
Back once again for the renegade master
D4 Duo with the ill behavior
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Thanks Marcus, great review
Nice vid! What kind of mount do you use to mount your extra rode mic?
Hi there. Thank you! I currently still use a $13 mic arm to mount (at most) 3 microphones on the same arm. I have (2) of my mics mounted just about ALL the time so I can (1) have virtual meetings using the Rode VideoMic NTG, and (2) record videos using the Rode NTG-5.
Here's the arm I use: amzn.to/49Glnxa It's cheap, light, but it does hold everything, I've had no reason to upgrade.
I then have a 5/8" to 1/4-20 adapter mounted on the end: amzn.to/3QebTlY
Then the 1/4-20 screw of that adapter goes into a dual cold-shoe mount: amzn.to/447lyjO
That dual cold shoe mount holds:
(2) mini ball mounts (mounted on both sides of the dual cold-shoe)t: amzn.to/4b4JMNX - One ball head holds my Rode NTG-5, the other ball head goes on the other side of the same cold shoe mount.......and holds.......
(1) MORE Cold-shoe mount (Ulanzi PT-2 - amzn.to/3JtyzuA) on the OTHER side of the SesenPro cold shoe mount)......this additional cold-shoe mount gives me a 3rd cold-shoe mounting point so I can mount a total of (3) mics if needed.
My Rode VideoMic NTG is mounted to one side of the Ulanzi cold-shoe mount, which puts it right next to my Rode NTG-5, then the 3rd cold shoe mount is "free" and lets me mount other mics I want to test as needed.
Granted, my chosen mounting method is via cold-shoe instead of standard microphone 5/8" or 3/8" mounts, but, so far this has worked well for me and I just add a cold-shoe-to 5/8" or 3/8" adapter somehow to mount a standard mic clip if I want to test an XLR mic, etc.
I hope that makes sense.....but yes, both of the dual-cold-shoe mounts, the 2 mini ball mounts, the videoMic NTG, and the Rode NTG-5, and *mostly any additonal mic I put up there, can be held by the $13 arm. It gets pretty heavy when I mount a 3rd mic, but I just tighten up the arm and so far so good, it all holds generally where I need it to stay.
Now, since I need my mics mounted high, AND because of my desk/speaker/computer-monitor set up.....behind my computer monitor, I have the mic arm clamped to a spare VESA monitor arm (amzn.to/49NDFwH) to get more height out of the overall setup. I think I got this idea from Caleb Pike here: th-cam.com/video/WedG8LKO6ks/w-d-xo.html.
And that WHOLE Vesa-Mount-to-mic-boom-arm is mounted on the back of my desk-shelf.....and that shelf sits about 10" above my main desk......so the whole mic arm system is already mounted higher than the standard 30" tall desk and that gives me all the height I need.
.....and I did this because I need to be able to raise my computer monitor UP quite high to reveal my main front-camera for recording......when I raise up my monitor, I generally do NOT have to move my microphones at all, as the mic boom-arm mid-hinge point creates a high point for my monitor to slide-up-in-to.
So, the whole thing goes:
VESA Monitor arm mounted on back of desk shelf which sits 10" above my main desk surface >
Mic boom arm clamped to the end of the vesa-arm >
5/8" to 1/4"-20 adapter on the end of the boom-arm >
SesenPro dual-cold-shoe mount > with Neewer mini ball heads attached to each cold-shoe mounting point
- Mini ball head on right side of SesenPro dual cold shoe mount = Rode NTG-5
- Mini ball head on left side SesenPro dual cold shoe mount = Ulanzi PT-2 dual cold shoe mount >
Right side of PT-2 dual cold shoe mount = Rode VideoMic NTG
Left side of PT-2 Dual cold shoe mount = empty/available for additional microphone mounting.
That's probably way more than you asked for, maybe I should make a video on it :)
Happy recording!
I'd love to use the D4 DUO thru OBS or just the mac os software, while its plugged in to my A74 or even directly to my Mac but I cannot for the life of me figure out how!
Which shotgun mic do you normally use for in studio recording? Thanks
Hi there. I have mostly used my Rode VideoMic NTG plugged directly into my Panasonic GH5. Great mic!
I have (for about the past year) been using the Rode NTG-5 going into/through a Zoom F3.
Both mics sound great, I find that I have some low-end build up with these mics in this space at my desk, so, I (tend to) over-EQ sometimes. Been wanting a Sennheiser MKH50, but that sucker is currently $1350!!! So.......I don't have a "need" for another mic at the moment. ;)
Hi, is it normal to hear like a humming or static sound. I connected the mic to my phone using a rode TRS to TRRS via an adapter.
I inverted the cables and there wasn't any static/humming. I don't umderstand.
Hi there. No, not normal at all. The problem is that phone manufacturers never agreed on a standard pin-out assignment for the 2nd ring of the TRRS Cable.
Some phone manufacturers have the mic input on the 1st ring, some on the 2nd ring, and ground or left/right oututs on the tip/ring.
Best thing to do is find out which TRRS to TRS adapter is right for your phone (iphone or Android, then of course, Samsung or any of the other brands of Android phones), and get THAT adapter, then run the TRS/TRS cable from this mic into the proper adapter for your phone.
This is why I just don't use my iphone for microphone inputs/content creation, it's not ideal
@@MarcusHutsell So it doesn't matter if I use a cable TRS to TRRs cable and the belkin rockstar 3.5mm/charger adapter?
@@UnboxingCaveman Well, I guess there's more to it.
#1. The D4 duo only comes with a TRS-to-TRS Cable. It does not come with a TRS to TRRS cable or adapter.
#2. I have a TRRS to TRS cable that came with my Movo VXR10 Microphone and that Works when plugged into a 3.5mm to lightning adapter for apple iphones......but you only get the FRONT capsule.......the iphone adapter/cable combo will NOT pick up the rear mic of the D4 duo at all...but the audio that DOES get recorded is clean and does not have any humm or buzz.
As far as the Belkin Rockstar you reference, I'm just not sure, I've never used that device, however, the 3.5mm port on some devices may only be TRS for audio OUTPUT from your phone, instead of TRRS for an additional cable/connection for audio INPUT as well as output
Also, you may need to try a different TRRS to TRS cable, as, again, manufacturers didn't agree on which pins go where for every device.
can i use it as a pc mic? which cable adapter do i need for it?
Yes....kind of..... and if you watch my other video (a few years ago), I do this with a similar on-camera style mic. th-cam.com/video/gyjiqkQSLMc/w-d-xo.html
Here's the adapter I use: amzn.to/4eXjxMh
You might try THIS mic instead, although it's a standard single-front-capsule: amzn.to/4f01xAH
There are definitely much better mics in the same price range that will work directly with your computer like with a USB port on the mic itself. This is NOT the best mic for this use-case, but if you needed to do this, you can.
However, using the Deity D4 Duo and a USB adapter, there are a few caveats if you decide to do this:
1. Testing with my U-Green 3.5mm to USB Adapter, I ONLY get the front-capsule of the Deity D4 Duo into OBS/Audition, etc, and that's because the U-Green adapter only seems to send a mono signal to the computer (not the mic's fault, this is a limitation of my cheap U-Green 3.5m>USB adapter). So, I just don't know if you'd ever get the REAR Capsule audio into a computer with any of these small adapters because you'd need a stereo 3.5mm input that can also provide enough voltage to the mic to work (3 to 5Volts).
2. You'll need to stick to using short 3.5mm cables, as you can start getting ground-hums in your audio if you use longer cables because this/these mics are unbalanced audio connections. So, listen carefully and test a lot.
3. the 3.5mm>USB MIc adapters will don't provide a LOT of signal into the computer, so most often you'll need to BOOST this signal in some way or else it just won't be loud enough. In OBS, I added the following filters to make it sound good, get rid of the ground hum, and get it to a stronger/louder level:
Filter 1: Noise Suppression (gets rid of most of the ground hum noise if present)
Filter 2: Gain - get the mic level up, you'd want to do this AFTER noise suppression
So, if this is the only mic you had, yes, you can kind of use it.........but, not advisable.
good review, how can it be used as usb mic?
Hi there. No, it cannot be used as a USB mic directly, it does not have a USB port