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I really liked your review of the Nova . I spent several months looking at class B vans . I bought a Coachmen Beyond it is just so far above quality-wise than anything else we could find in the perfect size. Coachmen Class B has really done a great job on their products .
Another great look into what is out there. Love hearing another company using Lithionics as a vote of confidence for this system. Volta and Lithionics while maybe not the same seem to be both top choices depending on what the owners needs are. Looked like great quality and loved hearing they use an Amish company. Speaks highly of the build quality. Those windows - Oh my CLEAR! Thanks for the great video Scott.
Thank you, Great job and perfect timing, Scott! Just yesterday I was downloading the Coachman Nova documents and watching videos. Your review and comments is very helpful to confirm for me my initial thought regarding quality without yet seeing in person. Definitely, Coachman Nova is moving onto my “buy” list. Glass on cabinets-lend themselves nicely to leave as is, or personalize with photos, wall art, whatever. And, finally a wall to help what is a distasteful eyesore view of toilet the “K” type floor plans have. Rear doors can be left open for views and ventilation.
Wowed !!! As much as I LOVE the STO MODE BEAST; this 2020C IS AWESOME !!! Just needs a LIFT off the ground and 4 seasons capable. You’re doing a great job showing us what’s out there. Thank you Scott and blessings
Thank you for the tours Scott! I like this rig!! Very very nice rig and the price is much better!!! It looks like an expensive rig even compared even to the Travato
Hello my friend, just want to say you did a damn good job.... I like the way you presented this video and the new nova. As always, stay Thirsty my friend.
Awesome Scott! I'm with you. If I would have seen this before I purchased my NPE59kl I most likely would have gone for it. Love the quality that they put into it. Keep the great videos coming!
No way Rich, I have KL NPE and so thankful I have it. The Coachman looks and feels like a cheap knock off. From the cabinetry to the awful Mattresses with No air coil springs, opening it up to moisture and a horrible night's sleep. The only thing I like is the door wall blocking the toilet but on the flips side of that wall the carpet will get wet and disgusting hanging hoses and cords etc in the "storage" area.. Thanks but no thanks, I love my T.
Wow, this is the first T competition I’ve seen that I would consider. Love the woodwork, and the walls they built at the slider and the back bath with the screens. Very nice. I don’t usually like the mid baths, but that prototype still seemed to feel spacious and somewhat open - back area and use of Lagoon tables very nice!
Wow, there's a lot to like here. The cabinetry is beautiful! Everything inside looks luxurious. This is the first van I've seen that I would like as well as my KL.
That prototype is awesome. One thing I have seen researching class b’s is the lack of a wardrobe area a place to hang your shirts. I would like to see one of the chairs in the back knocked out and have a wardrobe. The second one with the white interior seems to address that in the back. I have crossed the new travato off my list due to the height issues in the bathroom which you showed in a previous video.Thanks for great and informative video’s. If you get a chance I would like to see a unity they are a bit bigger for us bigger folk lol
I like this floor plan ..... like the bug screen at the back door ..... like the look ..... the door scream ...... do the windows have screens...... love the big fridge design
Coachmen is making a really nice class B. HAven't seen one in person, yet, but from the few videos, I've seen the quality is definitely there. The beds in the RB (Travato 59K) model are 2" inches narrower in the Nova. In an already small space, that could be a noticeable difference. Thanks for the detailed look at the van.
If Coachman would move the port for water into the coach, like Winnebago... this would be higher on my list. That said. It does check a lot of boxes for me. Gotta give them props for those cabinets, and how they insulate the van. Look forward to your video for the Beyond.
Loved that proto type that you had a good tour on. The driver seat doesn't look super adjustable. Too bad it doesn't have trusted and true Volta. The windows all looked open they were so clear. Thanks again for the awesome video
Marine grade flooring would be nice. there's some very accommodating products not made if wood but have a wood look. I'm not sure if they off gas but that would be important.
I really like Nova with awning windows, Lithionics system, Novacool 7300 fridge, large bathroom, and induction cooktop. I wish they had dual rear beds instead of the sofa for skis and long objects through the back door. I love the quality of the cabinetry.
Hey JASON. Thank you for commenting. I too really like the nova. It’s on a pro master which I really personally prefer over the transit. They do have the two twin bed style with a bath in the rear. I’m sure you saw that. That could accommodate some skis. Or put skis up on top with the Wii bed which would make two twins plus the side bath.
I plan on getting the Nova by this time next year. The insulation was key of all the vans I looked at. I live in upstate NY and it gets cold! Only other decision is rear bath or sofa bed layout..
I’m going to keep my eye on the prototype. Not crazy about the bed but it is more functional. Love the bathroom. Not ready to get rid of my 2020 Travato GL NPE just yet.
Nice K floor plan. The wall in the back is nice. Like the privacy. The shelving looks to be quality. I like it. Wouldn’t buy anything without Volta system.
I keep coming back to this video. I must have watched it a dozen times. I’m REALLY liking the Nova with the white cabinets, the awning windows and the awesome bathroom. I wasn’t such a fan at first because of the small fridge (bc that means more frequent trips into town to get more groceries which mean breaking camp 😏) but now I’m starting to wonder if it is doable or worth it 🤔
I am wondering about sitting on the beds and how high they are off the floor. Too bad there aren't slats or Froley. Oh, I like that white one too and the heater port in the bathroom! Thanks for the tour. Stay healthy out there.
Liked the quality and that they continue to track down a screen that tracks easily The bath in back that allows the open door👍 Go back and beg them to duplicate the original Travato G floor plan make the just the sink swing away over the commode
I’m partial to the maple - the first one. I like the clean Scandinavian look. Second choice would be white. Actually, almost anything is better than the typical RV interiors to me. Our T is walnut with white upholstery, and that is sort of elegant, if dark. If we’d seen that first Nova, we might not have gotten the Travato G! The rear restroom doesn’t seem as weird when the commode is hidden. And I like the pocket bathroom door a lot better than the rattling aluminum thing on the Travato. Sign me up!
Yes! Like my Travato k, the only all weather floor plan in existence.!!!! Is there any other RV with a second entrance that allows you to step right onto a shower pan? The van with mid shower; No fan or heating duct.? It makes no sense to me
I think this is the best looking interior on a B. Those cabinets are great. Screens seem a lot more practical than others I've seen. It looks like the ceiling may be lower than Travato since the AC looks ducted. And a big fridge!
👍 Nice wood, actually love the wood, much nice that the gray stuff in the Winnebago you reviewed! I love the openness of this! But the Gallaria...omg! Love it!
The quality upgrade vs Winneabago is pronounced. The cabinets are top shelf. Very smart to upgrade fridge freezer and the large wet bath game changer. they obviously did VOC (voice of customer)
Nice. Not sure I like the glass cabinet doors. The double bathroom doors are nice, but why didn’t they do that trick with the added piece of slanted wood to the left door with magnets that allow the right door to snap and then both doors are held in an angled open position offering more elbow room while showering as I assume there is a curtain that covers the door inside. What’s the size of the Li package and can it be optioned larger. What alternator are they using? Same as Ekko? Is there storage under the beds other than those pouches. I would say storage might be my next concern. Like it, possibly batter than the big W.
That prototype with the rear lounge was AMAZING. Construction looks this side of custom quality, and those dual pane awning-style windows are great. That said, $159k for a PROMASTER-based B-van!?! Your getting into Stroryteller/Winnie Revel territory there. IDK how it’ll stand up in comparison to others in that range, ya know? Particularly when there’s a full on assault aimed at the Trevato with new competitors driving the prices lower and lower.
I have a Travato KL but always liked the Coachman quality. Glad to see they have this new Nova design with a lot of advanced features over the Travato but it looks like it costs quite a bit more. I didn’t see the spare tire but if the water tank are above floor perhaps they have room for a spare underneath which would be a great feature.
The glass cupboards are nice but I would be afraid something would fall right through it. Love the white kitchen but like the pro the best. nice fridge bath. To save tanks I would like a compositing toilet. I wish they talked tank size and solar. Ive seen these vans where ac auto comes on if van gets to warm etc I want to see more of that stuff.
Really nice van..wonder if the bathroom sink drains into the grey tank used for the shower or the black like the Travato? Only knock was having to drain a second gray tank for the kitchen. Did you sit on the beds to see what they would feel like in couch mode? Feet touching the floor? Just out of curiosity, which of the 2 f/plans would you choose?
Great questions... kitchen sink drains into a separate grey tank. Bath sink drains into its on grey tank, that can be emptied with the black tank procedure. Couch was comfy, and I COULD touch the floor with me feet! (one can't do that in the 59K). Ball toss of fave floor plan for me. But really nice rig and a great value for the money
They finally got on board with the bigger refrigerators. People need bigger refrigerators. That's why I bought my coachman beyond. Gotta watch this pop out windows so you don't crush them when you slide your door open. The Beyond has snap out windows that clear the door. Nice rig and kudos on the pantry slides. There are none on the Beyond!!
Thanks for the reviews. I like the cabinetry, sink setup, and the new windows. Cool USB features, especially USB-C which I haven’t seen any B use yet. The rear twin beds look really uncomfortable tho. You don’t have the flexible top that folds up on one end to watch tv (like Travato or Sequence rear beds), Froli, or any kind of backrest for sitting on these to eat or work, etc. Not a fan of the screens on back and side (I love the pull down and magnet design a lot are moving to. Those screens look like they could easily get tweaked or bent especially when you are showering. It would be good to see the cabs. Thor is replacing the touchscreen with a larger Pioneer (the Ram touchscreen is horrible). What was show price on the Lithium model? (The show price you gave was on the model with 1 AGM). Thanks! One sound recommendation, maybe use the Rode clipped model vs. the handheld. Handheld is great for interviews, but when you are using one hand to film and the other hand to open cabinets and point out features, etc. the mic isn’t anywhere near your mouth and it’s harder to hear you especially with your mask on. Grateful for your video!
Thanks for touring these other brands and giving so much detail, had hoped to go to the Dallas RV show at the end of Feb to see some of these brands but it, unfortunately, was canceled so your tours are awesome! (and appreciate the honesty of what you like/ don't like - gives a good reference point.) Not going to lie I am intrigued by the Coachmen - need to learn a little more about the Li3 since I'm sold on Volta! One other question, was the toilet porcelain? I'm always checking for Matt's RV Reviews 4 Ps ;-)
Really liked the white in the Nova. Looked at them a few times but still can’t keep my knees out of the dash. The cabinet behind the drivers seat really needs to shrink about 3/4 inches or move it back. Really liked it 😞 sad I can’t drive it. Really love the running boards. The metal and traction is outstanding. Nice unit for average height people.
I like space for a trash can. I like the extra drawers across from the kitchen. I like the shower curtain tract instead of snapping on on. I like the windows better. I like the bowl sink with drain. Time to trade my 59k.
For me I have gotten down to figuring out the cost of travelling, mpg, how well it can be dry camping as you travel, etc. This is a good practical floorplan. Long toys like kayaks and surfboards can easily be carried inside. And ground clearance.
I love it as I said Coachmen does a better product and the glass on the cabinet door is not bad if you think about it you can c what’s inside and don’t have to struggle to find what you are looking for one thing I don’t like is the exposed connectors outside on the left with time the sun and elements are going to dry them up and also damage then it would be nice if they wore in a box or something.. I’m glad you wore able to talk to Coachmen .. The Beyond is better and awesome!! The dual wheels more stability and more torque than the Mercedes Benz and no DEF !! But the downside again with the Coachmen Beyond is the exposed valves I think the could do better I like the Galleria better because it doesn’t scream as much RV I like the stealth of it.. We are looking between the Galleria 24a and the Beyond RB we like the dual bed configuration .. Thank you Scott very much be safe sir .
I may have missed it. How long can the Li3/Lithionics run the AC in moderate temps 80-85 degrees? I have seen other vids (and your video of course) demonstrating the Volta running the AC for up to 8 or 9 hours. It does not seem as robust as the Volta system. Congrats on the Volta partnership!! Exciting for you for sure.
I have to say you do an excellent job of reviewing these coaches. Thanks for that. I too really like the beyond on the Ford and am patiently waiting for that. I think a B is too small for us but that would be the one if I were to go that route.
There’s a lot to like here. Lithionics is very good. Not quite Volta. You don’t get as fast of charge time with 12 volt but otherwise very good. Quality of cabinetry is excellent and the frosted glass fronts are a classy look.
Nice walk through brother. I just finished part 1 & part 2 of the most in-depth owner review on the NOVA 20C Li3. So if any of your channel subscribers are considering a NOVA check it out! There is lots of goods and blunt bads.
My opinion of Winnebago and Coachmen has flip flopped with these new releases. It seems that Winnebago is giving the customer less for a lot more $ this year (Travato 59G for example, less storage, less water, less seating, cheaper cabinets that are a downgrade from 2021; yet there's a big price increase this year). I was very impressed to see the quality of the Nova in this video, especially since I felt the Nova was a Solis competitor last year. The Nova finishes now look better than the 2022 Travato! The Beyond is just an amazing value considering the finishes, Lithionics, and Ford Transit AWD with the Ecoboost V6TT engine. Checked the prices and I was shocked to see how much cheaper they are than a comparable Winnebago. Looking forward to your video on the Beyond!
HomeRun217... you make a GREAT point here. I wasn’t impressed with Coachmen nor Roadtrek for the same reasons when I was shopping for my RV in 2018. Travato 59G snagged me.. now, not so much. Still boils down to floor plan for me. Maybe Coachmen can build a Gish with improvements?!
Interesting that Nova is making a better K at a time that Travato seems to be clearly looking to cut cost with lower fit & finish as you have pointed out. With competition about to really heat up in a tighter economy seems Nova is positioned to gain some market share
New subscriber... Thanks for a informative, professional presentation. Like the side bath prototype, dressing area, Amish wood, carpeted storage, entry screen, upgraded seating. Higher quality touches than Travato. It's on my radar now. Steve in Michigan
great cabinetry, you are right. Their Lithionics lithium system a quite good. I would argue Volta is a bit better based on chemistry, energy density,, inverter size, and approach to charging. But a good advanced energy like either of those systems will you you the freedom that lithium energy provides you
I’ve experienced both systems (Volta/Lithionics).. both are awesome. The upside to Lithionics is the ability to charge at low idle… or just driving/stopping in city traffic. It’s an open end system, so adding another battery is incredibly easy.
Scott, great overview and look at the various systems; you use your van so you have an insight as to what works and what doesn't. I've seen Nick online a couple times and he definitely seems to be an impressive guy; knowledgeable and focused on the customer needs. If you get a chance to talk to him again, can you ask about the 12V air conditioners? Are they continuing to offer the option and is it available on the Nova?
Love the review , so I'm gonna put you on the spot Scott....if you were buying one which would it be , Nova RB Li or C Li and why. Do you think that fold down seat would make a comfortable place to sleep, and how wide are the side cushions if you are sleeping solo without filling in the middle? Thanks again for your insights.
@@gosmall.livelarge In fact, I do hopr that they're listening. Another G-layout, instead of another K, would have been great. Folks who have to sofa/bed in back say they often just leave it in 'bed' mode.
Nice van and floor plan. Need a bigger table in the back perhaps a folding table and would like a different color for outside of van like red or blue. Only see grey ,white, and black vans.
Hey Scott, great video these vans are impressive and the price is a little high but not as bad as the Winnebago and the quality and workmanship is way better, [no offense] but you really got me looking forward to the next video with the ford chassis.
Thanks Ray! No offense to me pointing out Travato stuff. I don't work for nor speak for them. I just live in one of their vans because it worked best for me at the time, and still does. Nova was sweet
Great review Scott! I am looking forward to your review of the Beyond on the Ford Transit Chassis. I was really strong on the Travato, and I really liked the G floor plan. But as I have been working to convince my wife about a B-Van she was not excited about the Murphy bed. She thought it was too small. I am not a big fan of the bench beds. I was starting to be more concerned about the Winnebago quality after watching some of the problems that you and Kevin “30 & a Wake Up” were having. I believe the Coachman quality seems to be better, they seem to insulate better, and the cabinet quality is awesome. I want to consider the C version of the Beyond because you can use the back as a lounge during the day and convert to a king size bed at night with the touch of a button. I am starting to think more about buying new because I expect to have it for a very long time. My concern now is the scarce availability! Keep doing what you are doing!
The price is awesome. The refrigerator size is very accommodating. The glass is a turnoff. I wish manufacturers would reach out to companies like Viking for a more professional looking kitchen. Have you seen vikings outdoor stainless steel cabinet? It's very doable.
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Sir Scott... another great informative video. Enjoyed the review... can't wait to see the beyond review. Keep them coming man. Your the best!!🤠
Thanks! Will do!
This channel is pretty rad. The host is doing a really good job. An the content is free! Great times to be alive, no doubt.
Appreciate that Trent!
I really liked your review of the Nova . I spent several months looking at class B vans . I bought a Coachmen Beyond it is just so far above quality-wise than anything else we could find in the perfect size. Coachmen Class B has really done a great job on their products .
Thanks for sharing!
Another great look into what is out there. Love hearing another company using Lithionics as a vote of confidence for this system. Volta and Lithionics while maybe not the same seem to be both top choices depending on what the owners needs are. Looked like great quality and loved hearing they use an Amish company. Speaks highly of the build quality. Those windows - Oh my CLEAR! Thanks for the great video Scott.
great points Cheri
What about the EvoTrek Roadtrek lithium systems?
Thank you, Great job and perfect timing, Scott! Just yesterday I was downloading the Coachman Nova documents and watching videos. Your review and comments is very helpful to confirm for me my initial thought regarding quality without yet seeing in person. Definitely, Coachman Nova is moving onto my “buy” list. Glass on cabinets-lend themselves nicely to leave as is, or personalize with photos, wall art, whatever. And, finally a wall to help what is a distasteful eyesore view of toilet the “K” type floor plans have. Rear doors can be left open for views and ventilation.
Glad it was helpful to you Sue
Wow got to say I am really liking what Coachman did. Nice to see a creative approach. Yes big thanks to Nick!!
Nick rocks
I love the Nova with Lithionics system, the Novacool 7300 fridge, induction cooktop and large bath with rear bedroom.
Lots to like on the Nova
Very informative and convincing. I like so much about this unit. Thanks for doing it.
Glad you like it!
Omg... ive been watching over and over again the few videos about this coach, thank you!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Same
Thank you this was great! I saw the new prototype online and wondered what it looked like in person. It is now at the top of my list. Thanks again
Glad I could help! It is a sweet unit!
Love all these. The induction stovetop is a big plus in a van in my opinion.
good point
Very nice. Everything seemed to be in the right place for my taste, especially the last one shown with the large fridge. Awesome. Thanks for sharing
You are welcome
Wowed !!! As much as I LOVE the STO MODE BEAST; this 2020C IS AWESOME !!! Just needs a LIFT off the ground and 4 seasons capable. You’re doing a great job showing us what’s out there. Thank you Scott and blessings
Right on! thanks for putting in the time to watch and comment Deborah
Thank you for the tours Scott! I like this rig!! Very very nice rig and the price is much better!!! It looks like an expensive rig even compared even to the Travato
Thanks for watching! Tremendous value for the $$ I think
Can’t wait to see the Coachmen Beyond. The Nova is now at the top of my list 👍 GREAT video. Thanks Nick for the walk-through.
Appreciate that !
Great tour Scott. Liking these Coachman product
Coachmen would be at the top of my list these days. Maybe they will build us an improved 59Gish floor plan?!
Hello my friend, just want to say you did a damn good job.... I like the way you presented this video and the new nova. As always, stay Thirsty my friend.
Always thirsty!
Awesome Scott! I'm with you. If I would have seen this before I purchased my NPE59kl I most likely would have gone for it. Love the quality that they put into it. Keep the great videos coming!
Right on!
No way Rich, I have KL NPE and so thankful I have it. The Coachman looks and feels like a cheap knock off. From the cabinetry to the awful Mattresses with No air coil springs, opening it up to moisture and a horrible night's sleep. The only thing I like is the door wall blocking the toilet but on the flips side of that wall the carpet will get wet and disgusting hanging hoses and cords etc in the "storage" area.. Thanks but no thanks, I love my T.
Like the new Nova floor plan except the lack of permanent bed. The freezer drawer is great. Quality looks very good as you state.
Agree Jane
Airstream has a bulletproof screen door on their class B. It would really be perfect for this van. Great video, thanks.
Thanks Sandi !!
This is the one if lithium and I prefer the couch in the back. Thanks for showing.
YW
Wow, this is the first T competition I’ve seen that I would consider. Love the woodwork, and the walls they built at the slider and the back bath with the screens. Very nice. I don’t usually like the mid baths, but that prototype still seemed to feel spacious and somewhat open - back area and use of Lagoon tables very nice!
Super nice rig!
Wow, there's a lot to like here. The cabinetry is beautiful! Everything inside looks luxurious. This is the first van I've seen that I would like as well as my KL.
Good to know
That prototype is awesome. One thing I have seen researching class b’s is the lack of a wardrobe area a place to hang your shirts. I would like to see one of the chairs in the back knocked out and have a wardrobe. The second one with the white interior seems to address that in the back. I have crossed the new travato off my list due to the height issues in the bathroom which you showed in a previous video.Thanks for great and informative video’s. If you get a chance I would like to see a unity they are a bit bigger for us bigger folk lol
I think there is wardrobe behind the pantry pull out. great points you make Anthony
The best thing about it is the windows! Nice cabinetry. I do still want a garage and rear bed.
You and me both! Cabintary was stunning.
Like the windows, Screens, the way they do the rear bath. I want those windows on the Beyond RB
windows were stunning
Arctic Tern windows are the bomb! Have them in my DIY build and love them...especially when it's raining.
Prefer the Nova over the 59K. Really like the Lni. Can’t wait to see your review of the Beyond. Thanks, Scott.
Coming soon!
I like this floor plan ..... like the bug screen at the back door ..... like the look ..... the door scream ...... do the windows have screens...... love the big fridge design
There is a LOT to like on Nova
Coachmen is making a really nice class B. HAven't seen one in person, yet, but from the few videos, I've seen the quality is definitely there. The beds in the RB (Travato 59K) model are 2" inches narrower in the Nova. In an already small space, that could be a noticeable difference. Thanks for the detailed look at the van.
You are welcome Thomas
If Coachman would move the port for water into the coach, like Winnebago... this would be higher on my list. That said. It does check a lot of boxes for me. Gotta give them props for those cabinets, and how they insulate the van. Look forward to your video for the Beyond.
thx for comments C H
Loved that proto type that you had a good tour on. The driver seat doesn't look super adjustable. Too bad it doesn't have trusted and true Volta. The windows all looked open they were so clear. Thanks again for the awesome video
Thanks for watching TJ... ProMaster seat adjustment not overly awesome, but doable. Totaly agree with you on Volta
Thanks 4 the tour...very nice Coachman
Agree with you
Marine grade flooring would be nice. there's some very accommodating products not made if wood but have a wood look. I'm not sure if they off gas but that would be important.
interesting.. no wood = Embassy RV
I really like Nova with awning windows, Lithionics system, Novacool 7300 fridge, large bathroom, and induction cooktop. I wish they had dual rear beds instead of the sofa for skis and long objects through the back door. I love the quality of the cabinetry.
Hey JASON. Thank you for commenting. I too really like the nova. It’s on a pro master which I really personally prefer over the transit. They do have the two twin bed style with a bath in the rear. I’m sure you saw that. That could accommodate some skis. Or put skis up on top with the Wii bed which would make two twins plus the side bath.
I plan on getting the Nova by this time next year. The insulation was key of all the vans I looked at. I live in upstate NY and it gets cold! Only other decision is rear bath or sofa bed layout..
great points Steve. thx for sharing
Beautiful!!! Love the windows and craftsmanship!
With you on that
I for one like it a lot. Seems a lot more higher quality.
good to know
For someone in a cold climate, this one really seems like a good choice.
Good to know!
I’m going to keep my eye on the prototype. Not crazy about the bed but it is more functional. Love the bathroom. Not ready to get rid of my 2020 Travato GL NPE just yet.
I’m woth you!!
The bed is what I like. My sister and I travel Together and most of these are for couples. It's really nice to see a twin plan with so much light.
Nice K floor plan. The wall in the back is nice. Like the privacy. The shelving looks to be quality. I like it. Wouldn’t buy anything without Volta system.
We agree on bathroom back wall at the cargo doors
I keep coming back to this video. I must have watched it a dozen times. I’m REALLY liking the Nova with the white cabinets, the awning windows and the awesome bathroom. I wasn’t such a fan at first because of the small fridge (bc that means more frequent trips into town to get more groceries which mean breaking camp 😏) but now I’m starting to wonder if it is doable or worth it 🤔
Nova is really aweseom! thanks for watching and commenting
Scott, I love your RV reviews! You are definitely helping me with my decision. Haven’t made it yet😀but am narrowing it down!
Glad to help!
I am wondering about sitting on the beds and how high they are off the floor. Too bad there aren't slats or Froley. Oh, I like that white one too and the heater port in the bathroom! Thanks for the tour. Stay healthy out there.
My feet could touch the floor sitting on the beds, unlike Travato 59K
@@gosmall.livelarge Sweet, Thank you.
WOW ...... Quality makes a difference TY
Truth !
I prefer Winnebago Travato Cabinetry, so much classier and it looks like "yacht type" Cabinetry.
Liked the quality and that they continue to track down a screen that tracks easily
The bath in back that allows the open door👍
Go back and beg them to duplicate the original Travato G floor plan make the just the sink swing away over the commode
good points Cathy
I’m partial to the maple - the first one. I like the clean Scandinavian look. Second choice would be white. Actually, almost anything is better than the typical RV interiors to me. Our T is walnut with white upholstery, and that is sort of elegant, if dark. If we’d seen that first Nova, we might not have gotten the Travato G! The rear restroom doesn’t seem as weird when the commode is hidden. And I like the pocket bathroom door a lot better than the rattling aluminum thing on the Travato. Sign me up!
Great points!
Yes! Like my Travato k, the only all weather floor plan in existence.!!!!
Is there any other RV with a second entrance that allows you to step right onto a shower pan?
The van with mid shower;
No fan or heating duct.?
It makes no sense to me
thx for your points JA B
I think this is the best looking interior on a B. Those cabinets are great. Screens seem a lot more practical than others I've seen. It looks like the ceiling may be lower than Travato since the AC looks ducted. And a big fridge!
The fridge is ginormous
👍 Nice wood, actually love the wood, much nice that the gray stuff in the Winnebago you reviewed! I love the openness of this! But the Gallaria...omg! Love it!
Thx C T
The quality upgrade vs Winneabago is pronounced. The cabinets are top shelf. Very smart to upgrade fridge freezer and the large wet bath game changer. they obviously did VOC (voice of customer)
Totally with you Ken... stunning rigs.. They really grew on me the more time I spent in them.
I really like this van. I'll have to go see one in person.
Nova is a sweet rig !
Oh sure. Thanks Scott, tease us!! Can’t wait to see the Beyond!
Stay tuned Donna... coming your way this week!
Ooohhh aaahhh I looove the white cabinets 😍
I’m with you
I can’t understand why Roadtrek still stays with the old looking wood and dark colors. They need to refresh that brand SOON.
Nice. Not sure I like the glass cabinet doors. The double bathroom doors are nice, but why didn’t they do that trick with the added piece of slanted wood to the left door with magnets that allow the right door to snap and then both doors are held in an angled open position offering more elbow room while showering as I assume there is a curtain that covers the door inside. What’s the size of the Li package and can it be optioned larger. What alternator are they using? Same as Ekko? Is there storage under the beds other than those pouches. I would say storage might be my next concern. Like it, possibly batter than the big W.
Great points you make Richard. Website research needs to be on on the questions you ask
The quality of the drawers and cabinets is what puts them on my direction for purchase. They are built to last
so true
A winner for sure!!!!! I'm sold!!!!!
Thank you Mary
That prototype with the rear lounge was AMAZING. Construction looks this side of custom quality, and those dual pane awning-style windows are great. That said, $159k for a PROMASTER-based B-van!?! Your getting into Stroryteller/Winnie Revel territory there. IDK how it’ll stand up in comparison to others in that range, ya know? Particularly when there’s a full on assault aimed at the Trevato with new competitors driving the prices lower and lower.
Good points Mike
Prototype was cool with all the different ideas (screen door, double door bathroom but the plush seating reminds me of Pleasure Way.
Good points!
Not a bad price for a B that is very well built. ❤️🇨🇦❤️ Cheers!!!
Agree! giving the Canadian 🇨🇦 builders a run for their $$
I have a Travato KL but always liked the Coachman quality. Glad to see they have this new Nova design with a lot of advanced features over the Travato but it looks like it costs quite a bit more. I didn’t see the spare tire but if the water tank are above floor perhaps they have room for a spare underneath which would be a great feature.
Thx Robert
Oh my goodness. I think I am in love with the coachman with the rear bath!!
It's so good!
I like the Nova’s openness!
agree
WOW!!! I love, love, love the rig!!!
sweet rig!
The glass cupboards are nice but I would be afraid something would fall right through it. Love the white kitchen but like the pro the best. nice fridge bath. To save tanks I would like a compositing toilet. I wish they talked tank size and solar. Ive seen these vans where ac auto comes on if van gets to warm etc I want to see more of that stuff.
Good point!
Really nice van..wonder if the bathroom sink drains into the grey tank used for the shower or the black like the Travato? Only knock was having to drain a second gray tank for the kitchen. Did you sit on the beds to see what they would feel like in couch mode? Feet touching the floor? Just out of curiosity, which of the 2 f/plans would you choose?
Great questions... kitchen sink drains into a separate grey tank. Bath sink drains into its on grey tank, that can be emptied with the black tank procedure. Couch was comfy, and I COULD touch the floor with me feet! (one can't do that in the 59K). Ball toss of fave floor plan for me. But really nice rig and a great value for the money
They finally got on board with the bigger refrigerators. People need bigger refrigerators. That's why I bought my coachman beyond. Gotta watch this pop out windows so you don't crush them when you slide your door open. The Beyond has snap out windows that clear the door.
Nice rig and kudos on the pantry slides. There are none on the Beyond!!
agree with you
The connected touch screen control panels are FINALLY here
agreee
I think the Nova with the lithium battery is a home run and I sure do like that refrigerator size.
Wasn’t the fridge n freezer something? Embassy RV install the same fridge freezer combo.
Thanks for the reviews. I like the cabinetry, sink setup, and the new windows. Cool USB features, especially USB-C which I haven’t seen any B use yet. The rear twin beds look really uncomfortable tho. You don’t have the flexible top that folds up on one end to watch tv (like Travato or Sequence rear beds), Froli, or any kind of backrest for sitting on these to eat or work, etc. Not a fan of the screens on back and side (I love the pull down and magnet design a lot are moving to. Those screens look like they could easily get tweaked or bent especially when you are showering. It would be good to see the cabs. Thor is replacing the touchscreen with a larger Pioneer (the Ram touchscreen is horrible). What was show price on the Lithium model? (The show price you gave was on the model with 1 AGM). Thanks! One sound recommendation, maybe use the Rode clipped model vs. the handheld. Handheld is great for interviews, but when you are using one hand to film and the other hand to open cabinets and point out features, etc. the mic isn’t anywhere near your mouth and it’s harder to hear you especially with your mask on. Grateful for your video!
Yes on USB-C... at least one OEM is ahead of the curve
Thanks for touring these other brands and giving so much detail, had hoped to go to the Dallas RV show at the end of Feb to see some of these brands but it, unfortunately, was canceled so your tours are awesome! (and appreciate the honesty of what you like/ don't like - gives a good reference point.) Not going to lie I am intrigued by the Coachmen - need to learn a little more about the Li3 since I'm sold on Volta! One other question, was the toilet porcelain? I'm always checking for Matt's RV Reviews 4 Ps ;-)
Glad we are helping you out!
Really liked the white in the Nova. Looked at them a few times but still can’t keep my knees out of the dash. The cabinet behind the drivers seat really needs to shrink about 3/4 inches or move it back. Really liked it 😞 sad I can’t drive it. Really love the running boards. The metal and traction is outstanding. Nice unit for average height people.
Fair enough T S M !
I would love to ask one of their reps how they can justify $25,000 more for the lithium batteries.
they are expensive systems M B
@@gosmall.livelarge $25k is more than the battery in my Tesla...they are asking way too much for it.
I like space for a trash can. I like the extra drawers across from the kitchen. I like the shower curtain tract instead of snapping on on. I like the windows better. I like the bowl sink with drain. Time to trade my 59k.
Thanks for sharing!!
For me I have gotten down to figuring out the cost of travelling, mpg, how well it can be dry camping as you travel, etc. This is a good practical floorplan. Long toys like kayaks and surfboards can easily be carried inside. And ground clearance.
Good points John
I love it as I said Coachmen does a better product and the glass on the cabinet door is not bad if you think about it you can c what’s inside and don’t have to struggle to find what you are looking for one thing I don’t like is the exposed connectors outside on the left with time the sun and elements are going to dry them up and also damage then it would be nice if they wore in a box or something.. I’m glad you wore able to talk to Coachmen .. The Beyond is better and awesome!! The dual wheels more stability and more torque than the Mercedes Benz and no DEF !! But the downside again with the Coachmen Beyond is the exposed valves I think the could do better I like the Galleria better because it doesn’t scream as much RV I like the stealth of it.. We are looking between the Galleria 24a and the Beyond RB we like the dual bed configuration .. Thank you Scott very much be safe sir .
Great points !
@@gosmall.livelarge hello Scott .. I have a question have you seen a Phoenix Cruiser???
I may have missed it. How long can the Li3/Lithionics run the AC in moderate temps 80-85 degrees? I have seen other vids (and your video of course) demonstrating the Volta running the AC for up to 8 or 9 hours. It does not seem as robust as the Volta system. Congrats on the Volta partnership!! Exciting for you for sure.
Didn’t miss it on the AC. Was an RV show so could not do things like testing. I forgot to ask too. More to come on Coachmen
@@gosmall.livelarge Awesome and thanks. Your vid of the Volta system was really good. Looking forward to seeing how the Li3 stacks up.
I have to say you do an excellent job of reviewing these coaches. Thanks for that. I too really like the beyond on the Ford and am patiently waiting for that. I think a B is too small for us but that would be the one if I were to go that route.
Very welcome Dan. More of a tour than a review, but appreciate your comment
There’s a lot to like here. Lithionics is very good. Not quite Volta. You don’t get as fast of charge time with 12 volt but otherwise very good. Quality of cabinetry is excellent and the frosted glass fronts are a classy look.
Agree with you Dan
Nice walk through brother. I just finished part 1 & part 2 of the most in-depth owner review on the NOVA 20C Li3. So if any of your channel subscribers are considering a NOVA check it out! There is lots of goods and blunt bads.
Much appreciated!
Great review. One thing you did not show is behind rear sofa. Is there much if any storage in there?
good point... sorry about that
My opinion of Winnebago and Coachmen has flip flopped with these new releases. It seems that Winnebago is giving the customer less for a lot more $ this year (Travato 59G for example, less storage, less water, less seating, cheaper cabinets that are a downgrade from 2021; yet there's a big price increase this year). I was very impressed to see the quality of the Nova in this video, especially since I felt the Nova was a Solis competitor last year. The Nova finishes now look better than the 2022 Travato! The Beyond is just an amazing value considering the finishes, Lithionics, and Ford Transit AWD with the Ecoboost V6TT engine. Checked the prices and I was shocked to see how much cheaper they are than a comparable Winnebago. Looking forward to your video on the Beyond!
HomeRun217... you make a GREAT point here. I wasn’t impressed with Coachmen nor Roadtrek for the same reasons when I was shopping for my RV in 2018. Travato 59G snagged me.. now, not so much. Still boils down to floor plan for me. Maybe Coachmen can build a Gish with improvements?!
Interesting that Nova is making a better K at a time that Travato seems to be clearly looking to cut cost with lower fit & finish as you have pointed out. With competition about to really heat up in a tighter economy seems Nova is positioned to gain some market share
With our on Coachmen picking up market share!
@@gosmall.livelarge Honestly I have been considering 3 rigs all made by WGO. Now I need to add Coachmen to my research list!
New subscriber... Thanks for a informative, professional presentation. Like the side bath prototype, dressing area, Amish wood, carpeted storage, entry screen, upgraded seating. Higher quality touches than Travato. It's on my radar now. Steve in Michigan
Thanks for the sub! Appreciate you being part of our success! Nova was really a nice rig!
I am impressed with these. Coachman has good fir & finish. I am curious how their lithium power compares with your Volta system?
great cabinetry, you are right. Their Lithionics lithium system a quite good. I would argue Volta is a bit better based on chemistry, energy density,, inverter size, and approach to charging. But a good advanced energy like either of those systems will you you the freedom that lithium energy provides you
I’ve experienced both systems (Volta/Lithionics).. both are awesome. The upside to Lithionics is the ability to charge at low idle… or just driving/stopping in city traffic. It’s an open end system, so adding another battery is incredibly easy.
I loved that video I like that van a lot
Coachmen makes a nice van
Scott, great overview and look at the various systems; you use your van so you have an insight as to what works and what doesn't. I've seen Nick online a couple times and he definitely seems to be an impressive guy; knowledgeable and focused on the customer needs. If you get a chance to talk to him again, can you ask about the 12V air conditioners? Are they continuing to offer the option and is it available on the Nova?
Thanks, will do!
Love the review , so I'm gonna put you on the spot Scott....if you were buying one which would it be , Nova RB Li or C Li and why. Do you think that fold down seat would make a comfortable place to sleep, and how wide are the side cushions if you are sleeping solo without filling in the middle? Thanks again for your insights.
Tough one… the rig is exceptional. But the floor plan doesn’t meet my needs close enough to purchase. Rear bath would get my nod. Must have Li-ion .
@@gosmall.livelarge Thanks for the reply, do you think Terry from Embassy RV would build a lithium G style if we asked?
Coachmen has beautiful cabinetry!
I think so too!
Wow I love this model, the floor plan, the features, and the price!!
Lots to love on the Nova !
That shower curtain looks like an improvement over the K, but probably also a pretty easy mod.
cool… thx for watching
The prototype looks good. Great cabinetry as always. I'd like to see a east/west fixed bed, though. Coachman is very much on my shopping list.
That would be cool! If you listened to Nick, you heard him say how they incorporated Voice Of Customer from one year to the next. Super impressive
@@gosmall.livelarge In fact, I do hopr that they're listening. Another G-layout, instead of another K, would have been great. Folks who have to sofa/bed in back say they often just leave it in 'bed' mode.
I think you can change the color of the cabinet lights, too.
Fancy
Would have liked to see how the prototype bed was made.
More work and discovery to be done on the Nova and Beyond. Thx Rob
Wow, Nick really sold it. I want one
aweseom rig right?!
Nice van and floor plan. Need a bigger table in the back perhaps a folding table and would like a different color for outside of van like red or blue. Only see grey ,white, and black vans.
Great points
Hey Scott, great video these vans are impressive and the price is a little high but not as bad as the Winnebago and the quality and workmanship is way better, [no offense] but you really got me looking forward to the next video with the ford chassis.
Thanks Ray! No offense to me pointing out Travato stuff. I don't work for nor speak for them. I just live in one of their vans because it worked best for me at the time, and still does. Nova was sweet
Great review Scott! I am looking forward to your review of the Beyond on the Ford Transit Chassis. I was really strong on the Travato, and I really liked the G floor plan. But as I have been working to convince my wife about a B-Van she was not excited about the Murphy bed. She thought it was too small. I am not a big fan of the bench beds. I was starting to be more concerned about the Winnebago quality after watching some of the problems that you and Kevin “30 & a Wake Up” were having. I believe the Coachman quality seems to be better, they seem to insulate better, and the cabinet quality is awesome. I want to consider the C version of the Beyond because you can use the back as a lounge during the day and convert to a king size bed at night with the touch of a button. I am starting to think more about buying new because I expect to have it for a very long time. My concern now is the scarce availability! Keep doing what you are doing!
appreciate your comments!!
The price is awesome. The refrigerator size is very accommodating. The glass is a turnoff. I wish manufacturers would reach out to companies like Viking for a more professional looking kitchen. Have you seen vikings outdoor stainless steel cabinet? It's very doable.
That would be cool!
The refrigerator is a great selling point for me
Totally with you on a “normalish” size fridge in the Class B