Nintendo is basically broken into two groups. The devs that love their players/put passion into their games and the old higher ups who just hate the concept of fun and the fan bases
Which is odd, because the current CEO is a lot younger than the others have been. You think he'd be more open to it but I guess not. Switch can get hentai games on it but no Smash tournaments I guess.
@@beardalaxy CEO could just be a puppet while the old farts hiding in the shadow and controlling from there. Any countries have old peoples that love to hang onto power even when they fade into shadow but Japan have the most of those kind of old farts.
Even if he is younger, it’s a Japanese custom to listen to those who are older than you. Even if he is the ceo, he would still be expected to listen to his older peers
@@sebastianramirez9090 just because Japan copyright law exists doesn't mean Nintendo has to use it to the fullest extent. Technically, what they're doing is legal by US standards too (except maybe taking away streaming rights after it has already been given like 2 weeks before the event), but you don't see any other company do this kind of stuff like clockwork, even ones that are based in Japan. Konami is about the only other one I can think of but they're not as bad as Nintendo either.
The saddest thing is that waiting to cancel the tournament until the day before Thanksgiving was clearly a calculated move to ensure that the organizers lost as much money as possible and wouldn't be in a position to try anything next year.
This is like when you have psychologically abusive parents who tell you something is okay, just to tell you it isn't okay at the last minute and blame you for it.
nah, it's more like coming out as gay to a parent and having them shun you, sabotage your relationships and refuse to financially support you before they get into a relationship with someone who encourages your parent to try rebuilding the bridge, before cheating on your parent and leaving
What really sucks is that if all of this is true, is that this was THE chance to make Nintendo understand how the community wants to work, now either we're stuck with a possible Panda monopoly or Nintendo goes back to giving the community the middle finger.
At this point, I'm surprised they didn't endorse that troll Twitter account post of Mario giving everyone the finger, because that's what it feels like.
Ahh, the alternate universe where the Pedophile Bomb never dropped on the smash house and the comp community gets to have unlimited licensed tournaments, how we could be living if only
Other Side note: Same with Candy Crush, was made for a dudes mother who passed away from leukemia "Candy Swipe", then Activision and a dude named Riccardo Zacconi stole the idea and now millions of people play this poor guys creation.
Panda attempting to kill everything and try to force a monopoly, is like curb stomping a landmine. Sure, you get rid of the mine, but you've also blown off a leg or two. If they haven't outright killed themselves as well, then they've still crippled themselves in regards to the fanbase
The "good shit" is pretty trite now for them though. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon and that's it. Some other gems scattered here and there but I've long given up on Nintendo for the way they treat their community.
The fact that Charlie wasn’t even mad he lost a bunch of money on cancelled flights and was more worried abt his players is a huge w for him, you can tell he really cares
@@grapejuice3943 A ton of money? How expensive is like 5-6 tickets? It's a drop of pocket change to Charlie at this point, I don't think he'd even flinch for anything under 50K. Plus, since Moist Esports is a company on it's own thing they probably have their own revenue source anyways.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to set up this event, and then you find out the company that made the game you love is shutting it down. This is the most epic case of blue balls from a corporation so out of touch with its fanbase I've seen in ages.
I appreciate your non-alarmist POV for everyday people. You pointing out that local events will most likely be fine is an important note for a lot of people
94% of the time it is due to Japan's draconian copyright laws. You can't even say a name of a website in a show without getting sued by someone. 6% is just "We know better than you do"
I think you nailed it at 9:50. I think he tried to glex and tell Nintendo all this bull. And they just got so soured on the entire Smash community they decided to throw the baby out with the bath water. This is the first time something like this would happen and seem more like what is going on. As soon as that contract is up they will really distance themselves.
It's crazy to see companies waste so much potential like this. There has been an incredible amount of good will and organization lost due to a few bad decisions.
At this point I’m waiting for Nintendo to bust into my house for playing a 4-person melee tournament with my best friends to give me a lawsuit for hosting a non-sponsored event. Edit: Beware the replies, it is a nuclear accident in there.
Didn’t they do something similar to a grave? Nintendo suing parents putting toys on their kid’s grave. Also a DIY cardboard gameboy this poor kid made, just a cardboard box with a drawings in it. There’s more but I don’t wanna look them up
Nintendo as a company really feels like a 4chan post I saw years ago: "Too bad you're having fun the wrong way" Unless you enjoy them as they intend, you're doing it wrong
Funniest thing is how two of Nintendo's most recent games *can't* be enjoyed as intended because they were released in such a broken state, people were demanding refunds
@@lindsayshanks7555 I've been having a shit ton of fun with them even though they have terrible fps and visual bugs. Game should not have been released in this state but still enjoyable for me at least.
What we do with smash was obviously intended by the creator of the game, Sakurai encouraged competitive play while Nintendo as a whole just doesn't like anyone else making a buck in any way off of somethin that is exclusive to their console if they don't get a share. Seeing half a mill on swt probably put some salt in nintendos wounds. Panda CEO primarily pushed this forward with an inflated ego since he was licensed with Nintendo.
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It's kind of genius how Nintendo is trying to keep its hands clean with this situation. From what I understand, what Nintendo is saying is true- they did not *directly* tell SWT they needed to cancel. What they *said* was that SWT needed to get a license or cancel. SWT did not have a license, and Nintendo did not give them one. Nintendo *forced SWT to cancel their own event.*
An overlooked outcome of this is that VGBC's financial future is now unstable. They were the ones running SWT and, I don't know if they could afford to reinstate the championship if they already canceled stuff behind the scenes. VGBC made a statement on twitter addressing this and it seems like they're going to have to seriously downscale/make some cuts if they want to survive. The fact this is happening to the biggest, longest running Smash TO/production company is tragic. VGBC arguably carried the smash scene for years, and they've been going since nearly the beginning. A genuine pillar of the scene might fall because of this. Also all those panda global players/creators are now in a really uncomfortable situation because of their boss's actions... wouldn't want to be them, I bet a lot of people are giving them shit they don't deserve.
Wonder if they could sue nintendo, for tricking them into investing into running a tournament they weren't going to allow to happen. Or maybe the "join us or we'll get you shut down" Panda thing could be extortion.
This seems to be mainly Panda's fault and because Nintendo has a contract with them, they are obligated to assist them. Nintendo were clearly making steps to support the community, but chose the absolute wrong guy to assist and now the community is suffering for it. That is not to say that Nintendo is entirely without blame, but they have been forced back down their usual path by Panda
Right. Hopefully, Nintendo finds a better global circuit to allow for not just official Smash tournaments, but also official Mario Kart tournaments and whatnot.
That's what pisses me off the most. It looked like Nintendo was finally deciding to try supporting the community, and this absolute dickweed ruined it for EVERYONE. Not a big smash fan, but damn do I feel bad for the treatment they get (from Nintendo, not people saying they smell)
Literally, my friends of a rave company out here had Mario themed raves/parties every year. Nintendo personally reached out to them and demanded them to post a video/photos of destroying ALL of their Nintendo related props, evidence and all association to it or they would be heavily sued. It happened two weeks before the event was supposed to take place and they were forced to change the theme and rebrand the event. And there are many other NY corporate shows that still do it and haven't gotten in trouble for it (yet). It baffles me that Nintendo hates everyone so much
@@thegamerfe8751 There's no article on it, but I saw my friend post it on Facebook back in August. The company's name is Tight Crew and they host raves in the New England area. They've been in business for 15 years and they posted the photos of the aftermath
Looked it up and damn, it's real. Didn't find the pictures of the aftermath though. But as a business you have to be a special kind of stupid to prevent people from buying tons of Mario merchandise just for a specific event. Absolutely bonkers.
This isn’t just a Nintendo problem, Japanese companies like toei animation do stuff like this two, like the situation that happened with totally not mark. Sure toei lost that fight, but that still says a lot about companies like them and Nintendo.
@@powerfullpummel6417 Except modded Smash (Mostly just Smash Bros Melee since it needs a modded version to fix controller inputs) of course. And you might not remember that Nintendo used to not let people stream their games at all until just a few years ago where they finally changed their mind.
There's not a single developer out there with as much contempt for it's own fanbase I swear. Nintendo needs to re-evaluate it's relationship with us because these tournaments are often done out of love for the games they make and it seems like they just don't want us to love their games.
felt like all that flew out the window the moment Iwata & Reggie departed the company. We also just never hear anything from Doug Bowser Dougie isn't the main reason, but since then it's been the most isolated the community has felt from Nintendo
They just want you to buy their games. Nintendo isn't your friend. The faster people realize this and stop supporting them by playing and buying their games, the better
I dont see why this would kill the smash community. Pedopeople in the FGC didnt kill any game, did it? I really dont think the FGC cares about much besides getting a chance to play vs others. They'll just play for Panda and move on. Maybe I'm missing a lot, but that community has never done anything significant when big things happen. Feel free to educate me though.
@@hinoakuma6386 I didn't say anything about it killing the community. "Shooting themselves in the foot" simply meant that they halted basically any, and all progress that was being made by the community when it came to being able to play without Nintendo blasting us with a C&D at every turn.
At this point, Charlie gives me all the news I need about anything without actually needing to watch the news Edit: Ya’ll really don’t know what a joke is, and it shows
I'll never understand why Nintendo is constantly destroying events for people who play their most popular game at the highest level. you'd think that they would be all for it. there's no downside to it. also my daughter's 3rd birthday party was cease and desist-ed due to Mario plush
My theory is that Nintendo truly, truly hates the idea of their games being "fully competitive" instead of "fun and casual", which I wouldn't be so surprised given a lot of competitive communities are toxic AF and sometimes ruin the fun of casual players (LOL, Overwatch, Valorant, etc.) and the EVO allegations from 2 years ago definitely didn't helped. But it's still no excuse on why they treat the competitive scene the way they do, with Panda they were finally taking steps in the right direction, but that also ended up in this disastrous drama
I just pray all the innocent Panda players and staff get through this, whether it’s kicking Alan out and getting new leadership and branding; getting signed to new teams; or even just new jobs in general. Non of the, expected this because well, none of them are high-up Panda leaders and no one is in the business meeting besides Alan and the other CEO, I forget his name (that is, if he’s still around). Hope fans don’t take their anger out on them when they did nothing wrong. Internet is known for lashing out at the wrong people.
If they have to go and be apart of the tournament because they can’t get out, they should just sit down and do nothing. It’s not like they’ll be having fun anyway, so why actually work for free for people like Allen. Just be bored to be there and anyone left who would watch it would leave, therefore making the impact much more worse on panda
@@TimTam_3 I do like a lot of the personalities there, but I've seen people I liked rally around utter scumbags before because of careers... I just hope this won't be the same.
If Panda has a presence in the US, Alan's behaviour may fall foul of competition law. It's illegal to go to someone and say "only work with me otherwise I'll make it so that you can't work at all". Japan's laws may not work the same way, but the US laws cover citizens or resident corporations operating in any market globally. If he hasn't went super rat and covered his back properly, he's likely about to get a colonoscopy from Uncle Sam, and that dude's got big hands when it comes to shit like this
It is fine tbh. Panda is the direct partner to the owner of the ip and the competition is only allowed to exist under the condition that they don’t interfere with Nintendo’s desires.
If Nintendo wants to relegate them and it causes friction, they already know the terms of the deal. They have no right to compete when that requires someone else’s IP. It isn’t a sport, this isn’t just another competitive space. They are using someone else’s game.
@@mip4422there’s a difference between “sign this contract so you won’t work with our competition” and showing up to a rival’s event with your goons Bada and Bing making ominous threats that they’ll be shut down if they don’t pay respects to the Don.
@@mip4422 yeah, exclusivity rights made in agreement by BOTH parties, not one party threatens another party to stop because the threatening party wants to be the only one to do something. This is like Epic Games telling Square Enix that they can't sell FF VII remake anywhere else other than their launcher because they think they hold the power to strongarm other launchers.
Nintendo cancelling the event at the exact moment reminds me of waking up my parents at midnight because I need glue and colored papers for school tomorrow morning.
A tale as old as time. Nintendo always "partners" with tournament organizations and when they are about to go ahead, they cancel it. It happened over and over again.
Well is not like people just stop buying, consuming or playing their stuff.. This is just another one of many "dramas" related to cease and desist people will just get over it and then will proceed to get exited when a new direct drops. That happened when a melee tournament got shut down and just after that a new direct dropped everyone forgot about it even the streamers and youtubers that made noise about the topic, they made a rant and then proceeded to get hyped for the upcoming announcements. Any company can just pull this off and they know nothing is going to happen because everyone still consumes whatever they sell. People just should learn to not consume everything but nintendo fans in general are willing to keep getting their stuff even if it is not worth the price or if it has issues. Being anticonsumer is the actual way to get profit.
I think its important to remember that its the panda organisation that is being awful and not the individual players signed with them who probably have very little say in company decisions.
Going after Panda sponsors is the way to go. Though it would be good to talk to the players as well, because they may be able to put pressure on from the inside. But harassing them is not what people should do.
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That's certainly one way to deter people from watching your own tournament, by using your power and leverage to snuff out the grass root competition. I doubt many of the hardcore fans are going to want to watch if all of this is true.
I used to want to be smash player at the highest level, but things like this heavily discouraged me from chasing that. I hope one day that things change for the community
Im not one to normally sit in the shit so to speak, but these past ~5 yrs of gaming has shown me a LOT. I have lost all my hope for company's to do better
Wasnt the tripping mechanic on brawl (that weird thing where your character would randomly trip for no reason) to make it almost impossible to play on a competitive level? thats how much they hate competitive smash, they would rather make their game shittier than have a pro smash scene. I know they walked it back (because it made the game almost unplayable) for ultimate but I think the sentiment is still there.
If there’s anything I learned, is that Reggie was a brilliant PR representative. It feels like everything went to shit once he left, but Nintendo was already like that while he was working for them.
Reggie himself was also affiliated with the DMCA strikes as well so don't just pretend everything was beautiful and pretty when he was still around. He was also in charge of the online membership before Doug Bowser and Shuntaro Furukawa became presidents. People are too stupid to even realize that
@@midnalazuli793 significantly worse? That is still mentioning everything was beautiful and pretty back then when Reggie was still around. Look! I get that Nintendo has had some problems and we're criticizing them to help them improve. But not everything went downhill when Reggie and Iwata were gone.
This was exactly the kind of news I knew you would cover. Thank you very very much for bringing attention to this disaster. Obviously something needs to happen. Things cannot go on like this.
Honestly wild that Alan might just be like a mafia boss that can sick the police on anyone he doesn’t like. Except y’know, the police being Nintendo’s lawyers. Actually despicable that he’d do something like this.
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
I love that you teach things. FGC and such. Ty. Sad about the community. I still remember my cross country team captain and another guy stuffing their GameCube and controllers into a bag, walking miles in what ended up being a downpour, they then shoved their shirts in the bag to protect the cube, then arrived at one of my first alcohol parties so we could smesh inside versus party with girls outside in a pool in the rain.
One correction to make: Right when he was getting into things, Charlie said Nintendo is very hands off with the Smash competitive scene. That's not true. Nintendo is very hands on. And their hands and their hands are on its throat, desperately trying to strangle it to death in a decade long fit of rage.
Out of curiosity, the Panda contract just states they just had to attend right? Any chance the players could protest at the event by intentionally playing bad/whacky?
You know Nintendo completely ignores twitter considering the backlash about the upcoming Mario movie. If the people who made Sonic were on that film, they would have dragged Pratt's ass back in there and had him sit with the most Italian man on earth for a month to re-record the lines.
Looking forward to being thrown in the raft for having My Mario Plushy still sitting on my desk, and during the investigation, having Nintendo find out I had mario wall stickers when i was like 10 😭
Like I could only imagine the worst case scenario... What if Nintendo shuts down modding? Like if they had the BALLS to go out of their way and release another unexpected firmware update, that doesn't seem much, but when looking closer, it reveals that if you even attempt to launch custom firmware, you can either get your console bricked, or you account can get banned. That's pretty much my biggest fear when it comes to supporting a century old japanese corporation. They notice their fans desires, but they choose to ignore them and pretty much start treating them like their own enemies. This comes to show how manipulative Nintendo can be at ALL times.
@@2moreminutes it doesn’t even look like people are watching the entire video. There’s articles stating that a Nintendo rep said Nintendo wasn’t planning to cancel anything. It’s pandaglobal’s fault mainly.
"Build up the fake friendship, then pull the rug out last minute to destroy their fighting spirit. Keep them from having the chance to get back up to their best again."
I'm just shocked that these companies keep doing stupid moves yet people still keep buying from them. Almost as if they know they'll still make sales no matter what stupid shit they do!
Probably ignorance. Lots of people don't know of or don't care about Smash, and enjoy other Nintendo games instead. And thus Nintendo makes money from people who are ignorant of the bad deeds.
Reminder that CEO of Panda Global snitched to Nintendo when other circuits refused to join the Panda Cup. I hate Nintendo’s tournament/esports management but Alan is a piece of shit for trying to monopolize Smash Bros tournaments
It's almost like a company that has dominated in the industry for 20 years has enough cushion monetarily to bounce back from a mistake here and there. It would be a different story if we were talking about an indie game dev or something.
I also like mars, wadi, and tkbreezy, but I have to hard disagree with you on Esam. I can’t forgive Esam for all the things he has done in the past including: 1. Dog piling on Mew2King with false accusations that were proven false without ever apologizing to him 2. Excessive use of the N word , Esam, in a livestream with Nairo, gave himself the N word pass because “I say it better than most” before telling Nairo to “ (Black person) go boxing ring (bundle of sticks)”. Esam also called a different player a “watermelon loving, fried chicken eating, grape juice drinking (6 letter word) that can’t drive or swim” If you go to search bar and put in “Esam go boxing ring” you can hear it yourself. His apology video when he got exposed was also bad, when he literally said “I talked to people that fell into the categories of the words I said and they all said I was okay”.
I'll never understand why they do shit like this, the amount of time and resources they are going to spend on this beats whatever they would lose 10 fold if they had just let the event happen
I just recently got the Wii U for the sole purpose of wanting to play some old N64 classics (Majoras Mask etc) but of course the eShop closed down just a few days before I got to download them… Really sucked, I wish they could open it up for like a day so that the fans can download the stuff they want and then they can close it.
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Nintendo could've easily annihilated the entirety of Italy if the company finds out that the significantly large population of people named "Mario".
Mario AMONGUS hat
repent to God christ
Not me sweating since my name is Luigi
@@RoyalEletricTako We gonna have to hide you
i would be genuinely happy if italy pulled uno card on nintendo and staraigt up ban the game from the country for that feeble excuse.
Nintendo is basically broken into two groups. The devs that love their players/put passion into their games and the old higher ups who just hate the concept of fun and the fan bases
Which is odd, because the current CEO is a lot younger than the others have been. You think he'd be more open to it but I guess not. Switch can get hentai games on it but no Smash tournaments I guess.
@@beardalaxy unless things change in japanese "copyright system", they really wont change with nintendo.
@@beardalaxy CEO could just be a puppet while the old farts hiding in the shadow and controlling from there. Any countries have old peoples that love to hang onto power even when they fade into shadow but Japan have the most of those kind of old farts.
Even if he is younger, it’s a Japanese custom to listen to those who are older than you. Even if he is the ceo, he would still be expected to listen to his older peers
@@sebastianramirez9090 just because Japan copyright law exists doesn't mean Nintendo has to use it to the fullest extent. Technically, what they're doing is legal by US standards too (except maybe taking away streaming rights after it has already been given like 2 weeks before the event), but you don't see any other company do this kind of stuff like clockwork, even ones that are based in Japan. Konami is about the only other one I can think of but they're not as bad as Nintendo either.
Nintendo: *makes games for fun*
Also Nintendo: *punishes the fans for having fun*
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Didnt watch the vid
@@Betweentwelv32567 done in flash
They don't make games for fun, they make them for money
The saddest thing is that waiting to cancel the tournament until the day before Thanksgiving was clearly a calculated move to ensure that the organizers lost as much money as possible and wouldn't be in a position to try anything next year.
Super slimy
I can't believe a professional CEO seriously used the "my uncle works at nintendo" card
Alan giving a master class on how to actually end yourself as a panda.
Bars
The average CEO
He's been holding onto that card for decades.
Jesus is coming back
It is inconceivably evil that the CEO of a Smash tournament would use Nintendo's draconian policies AS A WEAPON against groups they don't like.
Not even groups they dont like. Groups that refused to get consumed and swallowed by someone else.
Yeah it’s straight up vile
That's par for the course for smash
Not to be nit picky, but he’s the CEO of an esports org, not a tournament
It's not a big deal the smash community is toxic anyways.
Alan Bunney turned Nintendo into a protection racket. I'm impressed he was able to do it without getting laughed out of the room.
He's also a cold-blooded bastard as well
“Daddy Nintendo”
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@@billblaski9523in a nutshell you gotta pay them for safety. Or appease them.
@@billblaski9523 "It would be a shame if you fell down the stairs and got hurt tonight. Register with us and we'll make sure that doesn't happen."
It's crazy how one man's greed ruined everything for thousands of people.
Smash could be a community of hundreds of thousands of people, mayhaps more...
@@theZaharz 6 Billion Melee Players.
Poor pepole
So disgusting, I hate greed.
@Late to the Game Without capitalism the game wouldn't exist so quit whining about capitalism, or else suggest a better system.
This is like when you have psychologically abusive parents who tell you something is okay, just to tell you it isn't okay at the last minute and blame you for it.
And it's sad because most people in that situation dont even realize they're going through it.
Oof...I felt his a little too much.
nah, it's more like coming out as gay to a parent and having them shun you, sabotage your relationships and refuse to financially support you before they get into a relationship with someone who encourages your parent to try rebuilding the bridge, before cheating on your parent and leaving
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Nintendo basically said, “We see you, we hear you, we just don't care.”
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And it's their right to say they don't care. Nintendo has Splatoon 3 events that go on without a hitch.
@@alicefox8789 SPLATOON LMAO
@@alicefox8789 Bro it's Splatoon, no ones gonna care about that.
@@Shahari_sark exactly
What really sucks is that if all of this is true, is that this was THE chance to make Nintendo understand how the community wants to work, now either we're stuck with a possible Panda monopoly or Nintendo goes back to giving the community the middle finger.
At this point, I'm surprised they didn't endorse that troll Twitter account post of Mario giving everyone the finger, because that's what it feels like.
Hopefully one day Nintendo will get their heads out their ass and realize its a win win letting people hold these tournaments
What is Panda Monopoly? Is that a "we're stuck with you not because we like you but because you're the only source of the good things we like" move?
@Patrick39 I'm better than Patrick39 LOL 🤣
No one is using Panda the entire community hates them, good luck having a tourney when none of the good players want to attend
Imagine an alternate universe where Alan is just a really nice guy and everything went well for the Smash community.
You mean the world we lived in that still excisted 3 days ago?
Ahh, the alternate universe where the Pedophile Bomb never dropped on the smash house and the comp community gets to have unlimited licensed tournaments, how we could be living if only
*closes book* "Like that's ever gonna happen"
Jesus is coming back
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Side note:
The original creators of "Oregon trail" never got paid sadly.. They were screwed out of their own ingenious creation.
Oof, that’s kinda sad. They can’t take some legal action against this?
@@cerealwalker Sadly, they died of dysentery.
Other Side note: Same with Candy Crush, was made for a dudes mother who passed away from leukemia "Candy Swipe", then Activision and a dude named Riccardo Zacconi stole the idea and now millions of people play this poor guys creation.
@@subsume7904 You mean King? Activision didn't buy King until well after Candy Crush was a success.
The Oregon Trail has been so much inspiration for me my whole life and I’ve never heard about this 😳 ignorance is truly bliss
Panda attempting to kill everything and try to force a monopoly, is like curb stomping a landmine. Sure, you get rid of the mine, but you've also blown off a leg or two. If they haven't outright killed themselves as well, then they've still crippled themselves in regards to the fanbase
Curbstomping A Land Mine is a perfect band name. Song/album title at least
@@DeadCatSue that’s the name of my band actually lmao
@@Gravity616 Curbstomped Landmine?
@@DeadCatSue Careful, nintendo has that ©️ed, they could come for you next
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Nintendo realy is like that guy you hate, but has the good shit so you let him hang around.
Literally
It's incredible as to why they do these bizarre decisions
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The "good shit" is pretty trite now for them though. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon and that's it. Some other gems scattered here and there but I've long given up on Nintendo for the way they treat their community.
The fact that Charlie wasn’t even mad he lost a bunch of money on cancelled flights and was more worried abt his players is a huge w for him, you can tell he really cares
Hes worth 20 mil so that helps too
@@scruffy032893 doesnt mean he cant be a good person for not being mad losing a ton of money
@@grapejuice3943 A ton of money? How expensive is like 5-6 tickets? It's a drop of pocket change to Charlie at this point, I don't think he'd even flinch for anything under 50K.
Plus, since Moist Esports is a company on it's own thing they probably have their own revenue source anyways.
@@boanoah6362 Charlie said Moist Esports is actually losing money.
Moist Esports is a money pit. It was a money pit before this and it's a money pit after this. It's basically no difference to him financially.
Not really in the smash community but I am so happy that you are bringing attention to this. I feel so bad for all the parties affected.
Same here.
I dont like smash comunity. But i dont like nintendo neither
....MARIO parties?
@@skay1992 *Nintendo immediately sues you*
This aged extremely poorly after what the Super Smash community has done
Hundreds of thousands of dollars spent to set up this event, and then you find out the company that made the game you love is shutting it down. This is the most epic case of blue balls from a corporation so out of touch with its fanbase I've seen in ages.
@YeaMan Paige
Money is all that matters, is my guess..
@@erisunflower And money makes the world go around.
@@erisunflower The fact that you guessed despite already knowing the answer is ridiculous. You already knew the drill, money is always the goal.
Reminds me of what Blizzard did with heroes of the storm
I appreciate your non-alarmist POV for everyday people. You pointing out that local events will most likely be fine is an important note for a lot of people
Alan seems like the type of person who would unleash a bucket of roaches in a restaurant to get it shut down, just because they got his order wrong.
@YeaMan You don't even have any content.
Stop clickbaiting!
@@yeaman3214 Come back when you actually have content 🤡🤡
Sounds like the show "Dan Vs."
@Patrick39 No, I'M BETTER!
And YOU need to STOP.
Literally happened in a Hey Arnold! episode lol
as a smash enthusiast, it hurts me to see what is happening to the community. at least we got oregon trail to help us cope.
Tell me you don't bathe without telling em you don't bathe
Smash enthusiast aka hygiene hater
Josey has died of dysentery.
smash enthusiast
@@ongfrf wow very funny. So original
94% of the time it is due to Japan's draconian copyright laws. You can't even say a name of a website in a show without getting sued by someone. 6% is just "We know better than you do"
Also because the smash community was on some horny shit and everyone knew so Nintendo wanted to distance themselves from the community
repent to God christ
It's nothing to do with the allegations!
These cunts have been doing this for over a decade.
@@thereconracoon3715 if i was Nintendo i do the same tbh, Smash players should have get the message years ago.
@@Baggerz182 k Baggerz
I think you nailed it at 9:50. I think he tried to glex and tell Nintendo all this bull. And they just got so soured on the entire Smash community they decided to throw the baby out with the bath water. This is the first time something like this would happen and seem more like what is going on. As soon as that contract is up they will really distance themselves.
It's crazy to see companies waste so much potential like this. There has been an incredible amount of good will and organization lost due to a few bad decisions.
Oh yeah yeah max gang
I mean these companies could have more back bone.
Do you even watch the video mate?
But this was Nintendo of America, not Nintendo of Japan 👀
At this point I’m waiting for Nintendo to bust into my house for playing a 4-person melee tournament with my best friends to give me a lawsuit for hosting a non-sponsored event.
Edit: Beware the replies, it is a nuclear accident in there.
That is not even realistic
@John Mullins Nothing personal, Just telling the truth
@@M64bros totally not a Nintendo apologist with that pfp and username 💀
@@M64bros Yeah, it's a joke
@@M64bros ever heard of something magical! Called a joke?
Hope Alan is getting his response ready. Guy has a hell of a lot to answer for.
@Patrick39 no, your a sad little bot person with literally 3 minutes worth of content in over a year, your nothing
@Patrick39 but are you better than Alan
No response can justify his actions. All he can do is apologize, and no one accepting his apology!
I hope he trips and skins his knees on the pavement
I’m interested to see his response. Let’s see how bad he fucks up
“Nintendo would cease and desist a 4 year olds birthday party if they had a mario plushy there” so true 😂
@@aikamartinez013 nope 🙂
Didn’t they do something similar to a grave? Nintendo suing parents putting toys on their kid’s grave. Also a DIY cardboard gameboy this poor kid made, just a cardboard box with a drawings in it. There’s more but I don’t wanna look them up
Nintendo as a company really feels like a 4chan post I saw years ago: "Too bad you're having fun the wrong way"
Unless you enjoy them as they intend, you're doing it wrong
Damn bro, your comment got spitroasted by bots
Funniest thing is how two of Nintendo's most recent games *can't* be enjoyed as intended because they were released in such a broken state, people were demanding refunds
@@lindsayshanks7555 I've been having a shit ton of fun with them even though they have terrible fps and visual bugs. Game should not have been released in this state but still enjoyable for me at least.
What we do with smash was obviously intended by the creator of the game, Sakurai encouraged competitive play while Nintendo as a whole just doesn't like anyone else making a buck in any way off of somethin that is exclusive to their console if they don't get a share. Seeing half a mill on swt probably put some salt in nintendos wounds. Panda CEO primarily pushed this forward with an inflated ego since he was licensed with Nintendo.
this is exactly how a lot of japanese people are. they lose their shit if im not eatting noodles exactly how they do.
You know it’s really huge when Charlie puts out a 37 minute video
I mean he is moist cr1tical
Idk if I spelled that wrong but he is involved because of CoLa
bro fr i thought i read it wrong
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*God is ONE manifesting himself as THREE;* the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him! *For these three are one.*
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@@Duality.12 did you mean kola lmao wtf
The drama still never ends, no matter what form it comes in.
@@p-__ get spanked
repent to God christ
How many bots are on this channel lmao
“When I’m gone they’ll just find another monster, they have to, because they have to justify their wages.”
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It's kind of genius how Nintendo is trying to keep its hands clean with this situation. From what I understand, what Nintendo is saying is true- they did not *directly* tell SWT they needed to cancel. What they *said* was that SWT needed to get a license or cancel. SWT did not have a license, and Nintendo did not give them one. Nintendo *forced SWT to cancel their own event.*
An overlooked outcome of this is that VGBC's financial future is now unstable. They were the ones running SWT and, I don't know if they could afford to reinstate the championship if they already canceled stuff behind the scenes. VGBC made a statement on twitter addressing this and it seems like they're going to have to seriously downscale/make some cuts if they want to survive. The fact this is happening to the biggest, longest running Smash TO/production company is tragic. VGBC arguably carried the smash scene for years, and they've been going since nearly the beginning. A genuine pillar of the scene might fall because of this.
Also all those panda global players/creators are now in a really uncomfortable situation because of their boss's actions... wouldn't want to be them, I bet a lot of people are giving them shit they don't deserve.
Wonder if they could sue nintendo, for tricking them into investing into running a tournament they weren't going to allow to happen. Or maybe the "join us or we'll get you shut down" Panda thing could be extortion.
Yeah ESAM is catching strays on twitter, but honestly it happens like every other week for him LMAO
@@cheesebucket142
I hope they sue TF out of Panda for this
@@TheRaven-WingGamingthey can’t because panda didn’t do anything wrong.
@@cheesebucket142they weren’t tricked they just didn’t follow the rules Nintendo gave them. It’s their own fault they didn’t get the license
This seems to be mainly Panda's fault and because Nintendo has a contract with them, they are obligated to assist them. Nintendo were clearly making steps to support the community, but chose the absolute wrong guy to assist and now the community is suffering for it. That is not to say that Nintendo is entirely without blame, but they have been forced back down their usual path by Panda
Finally, a real person that knows the truth and I strongly agree with you!
Yes, this is mostly Panda's fault. We need to contact their sponsors and hit Panda Global where it hurts. They won't back down unless we do something.
Right. Hopefully, Nintendo finds a better global circuit to allow for not just official Smash tournaments, but also official Mario Kart tournaments and whatnot.
That's what pisses me off the most. It looked like Nintendo was finally deciding to try supporting the community, and this absolute dickweed ruined it for EVERYONE. Not a big smash fan, but damn do I feel bad for the treatment they get (from Nintendo, not people saying they smell)
Nintendo shills.
Literally, my friends of a rave company out here had Mario themed raves/parties every year. Nintendo personally reached out to them and demanded them to post a video/photos of destroying ALL of their Nintendo related props, evidence and all association to it or they would be heavily sued. It happened two weeks before the event was supposed to take place and they were forced to change the theme and rebrand the event. And there are many other NY corporate shows that still do it and haven't gotten in trouble for it (yet). It baffles me that Nintendo hates everyone so much
Is there an article reporting this or is it kept in the dark ? I want to read up on this.
@@thegamerfe8751 There's no article on it, but I saw my friend post it on Facebook back in August. The company's name is Tight Crew and they host raves in the New England area. They've been in business for 15 years and they posted the photos of the aftermath
@@thegamerfe8751 I tried posting the link of the photos here, but I think it got removed
So they shut down parties that were basically free marketing? Wild.
Looked it up and damn, it's real. Didn't find the pictures of the aftermath though. But as a business you have to be a special kind of stupid to prevent people from buying tons of Mario merchandise just for a specific event. Absolutely bonkers.
"No company hates thier customer base more than Nintendo "
Games Workshop has entered the chat
At the very least GW puts out overpriced models that are still good, Gamefreak puts out overpriced games that AREN’T good.
Game Stop as well...
But yes, GW prices their fans out and then wonders why so many start 3D Printing
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This isn’t just a Nintendo problem, Japanese companies like toei animation do stuff like this two, like the situation that happened with totally not mark. Sure toei lost that fight, but that still says a lot about companies like them and Nintendo.
Being fair nintendo actually is arguably better then toei because they actually allow reviews of their games and people can play their games online.
Finally an actual real person that's smart and has a brain and I'm with you
Japanese companies need to figure out how copyright acrually works
Charlie thinks this is a Nintendo problem, but this is a typical reflection of Japanese copyright laws.
@@powerfullpummel6417 Except modded Smash (Mostly just Smash Bros Melee since it needs a modded version to fix controller inputs) of course. And you might not remember that Nintendo used to not let people stream their games at all until just a few years ago where they finally changed their mind.
There's not a single developer out there with as much contempt for it's own fanbase I swear. Nintendo needs to re-evaluate it's relationship with us because these tournaments are often done out of love for the games they make and it seems like they just don't want us to love their games.
felt like all that flew out the window the moment Iwata & Reggie departed the company. We also just never hear anything from Doug Bowser
Dougie isn't the main reason, but since then it's been the most isolated the community has felt from Nintendo
@@gomichow However, back then there were also take downs from Iwata and Reggie as well
@@gomichow Dougie is perfect
Without them, NSO wouldn’t exist, and NSO is perfect!
@@jaxsterminator8634 Oh great! Not you again! 🤦
They just want you to buy their games. Nintendo isn't your friend. The faster people realize this and stop supporting them by playing and buying their games, the better
Amazing how the greed of one man shot the entire Smash community in the foot.
I dont see why this would kill the smash community. Pedopeople in the FGC didnt kill any game, did it? I really dont think the FGC cares about much besides getting a chance to play vs others. They'll just play for Panda and move on. Maybe I'm missing a lot, but that community has never done anything significant when big things happen. Feel free to educate me though.
@@hinoakuma6386 I didn't say anything about it killing the community. "Shooting themselves in the foot" simply meant that they halted basically any, and all progress that was being made by the community when it came to being able to play without Nintendo blasting us with a C&D at every turn.
remember kids, pirating nintendo games is not bad, its justice
Adobe and Nintendo. Two companies you should never be ashamed to pirate.
@@hanabi64 Adobe charging 3k dollars per month so u can use their softwares
Damn skippy!
And for my personal addition to the list: Koei Tecmo games
@@onionknight6297 After dw9 hell yes
The name panda makes so much sense now. They've jeopardized their entire existence, just like the actual animal does all the time
LMAO fr
At this point, Charlie gives me all the news I need about anything without actually needing to watch the news
Edit: Ya’ll really don’t know what a joke is, and it shows
ye
fr
you should never rely on 1 person for news, even if it's Charlie.
Big agree
@Audrey Jones ratio
Alan did a great job at making everyone hate him and not wanting to associate with Panda
Thanks for talking about this charlie. We're lucky to have you involved in, and advocating for, the smash scene
I'll never understand why Nintendo is constantly destroying events for people who play their most popular game at the highest level. you'd think that they would be all for it. there's no downside to it.
also my daughter's 3rd birthday party was cease and desist-ed due to Mario plush
Wait how do you CnD a birthday party???
My theory is that Nintendo truly, truly hates the idea of their games being "fully competitive" instead of "fun and casual", which I wouldn't be so surprised given a lot of competitive communities are toxic AF and sometimes ruin the fun of casual players (LOL, Overwatch, Valorant, etc.) and the EVO allegations from 2 years ago definitely didn't helped.
But it's still no excuse on why they treat the competitive scene the way they do, with Panda they were finally taking steps in the right direction, but that also ended up in this disastrous drama
@@user-cb9cd5qj6k no you dont
@@ITalkReddit no you dont
@@santiagoherrera1853panda was the one that shut the other tournaments down I thought
I just pray all the innocent Panda players and staff get through this, whether it’s kicking Alan out and getting new leadership and branding; getting signed to new teams; or even just new jobs in general. Non of the, expected this because well, none of them are high-up Panda leaders and no one is in the business meeting besides Alan and the other CEO, I forget his name (that is, if he’s still around).
Hope fans don’t take their anger out on them when they did nothing wrong. Internet is known for lashing out at the wrong people.
If they have to go and be apart of the tournament because they can’t get out, they should just sit down and do nothing. It’s not like they’ll be having fun anyway, so why actually work for free for people like Allen.
Just be bored to be there and anyone left who would watch it would leave, therefore making the impact much more worse on panda
Esam 4 CEO?
@@realafah They're probably contractually obligated to not purposely throw the tournament by not participating.
@@emstink Cheat to forfeit.
@@emstink then play boringly
Panda's talent needs to get together and say that unless the CEO goes then they all go.
@@yeaman3214 If you can't spell the world page, you probably can't make good music either
Exactly. Just thinking of the main TH-cam squad, they could probably start their own thing
@@bradigan Just report the spam bots and move on. They're not worth your time.
@@TimTam_3 I do like a lot of the personalities there, but I've seen people I liked rally around utter scumbags before because of careers... I just hope this won't be the same.
@@Zikar yeah. The other issue that could arise is contracts with Panda. I hope they push back against them
Crazy that in just 5 months Charlie's room got such an upgrade
If Panda has a presence in the US, Alan's behaviour may fall foul of competition law. It's illegal to go to someone and say "only work with me otherwise I'll make it so that you can't work at all". Japan's laws may not work the same way, but the US laws cover citizens or resident corporations operating in any market globally. If he hasn't went super rat and covered his back properly, he's likely about to get a colonoscopy from Uncle Sam, and that dude's got big hands when it comes to shit like this
It’s called exclusivity rights and it’s done by companies all the time. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
It is fine tbh. Panda is the direct partner to the owner of the ip and the competition is only allowed to exist under the condition that they don’t interfere with Nintendo’s desires.
If Nintendo wants to relegate them and it causes friction, they already know the terms of the deal. They have no right to compete when that requires someone else’s IP. It isn’t a sport, this isn’t just another competitive space. They are using someone else’s game.
@@mip4422there’s a difference between “sign this contract so you won’t work with our competition” and showing up to a rival’s event with your goons Bada and Bing making ominous threats that they’ll be shut down if they don’t pay respects to the Don.
@@mip4422 yeah, exclusivity rights made in agreement by BOTH parties, not one party threatens another party to stop because the threatening party wants to be the only one to do something.
This is like Epic Games telling Square Enix that they can't sell FF VII remake anywhere else other than their launcher because they think they hold the power to strongarm other launchers.
Nintendo cancelling the event at the exact moment reminds me of waking up my parents at midnight because I need glue and colored papers for school tomorrow morning.
Seen Ludwig's vid about this I'm glad to see multiple big names making people aware. This situation is so ridiculous.
A tale as old as time. Nintendo always "partners" with tournament organizations and when they are about to go ahead, they cancel it. It happened over and over again.
How exactly can a company say people aren't allowed to get together and play a video game that they bought?
We live in a dystopian point in time 💀
you can still do that but you can't broadcast it
I blows my mind that people/companies/orgs still pull this kind of shit when the truth is gonna get out and absolutely destroy their reputation
Well is not like people just stop buying, consuming or playing their stuff..
This is just another one of many "dramas" related to cease and desist people will just get over it and then will proceed to get exited when a new direct drops.
That happened when a melee tournament got shut down and just after that a new direct dropped everyone forgot about it even the streamers and youtubers that made noise about the topic, they made a rant and then proceeded to get hyped for the upcoming announcements.
Any company can just pull this off and they know nothing is going to happen because everyone still consumes whatever they sell.
People just should learn to not consume everything but nintendo fans in general are willing to keep getting their stuff even if it is not worth the price or if it has issues.
Being anticonsumer is the actual way to get profit.
They don't care, they're too powerful to be stopped
You'd be surprised how much doesn't get leaked.
I mean, Nintendo’s target is the casual player (families). They don’t give a fuck about these things, unfortunately.
@@peluquin98 Anti-consumerism is a really hard concept to learn when it comes to Nintendo fans. Their products, it'd almost like an addiction to them.
I think its important to remember that its the panda organisation that is being awful and not the individual players signed with them who probably have very little say in company decisions.
Going after Panda sponsors is the way to go. Though it would be good to talk to the players as well, because they may be able to put pressure on from the inside. But harassing them is not what people should do.
Unless they also speak out against Alan they are complicit in my opinion.
@@Kadeo-ms6qwits unfortunate bc it may be at the expense of their job but afaik a few panda players have already done so
@@Kadeo-ms6qw they already did.
@@Kadeo-ms6qw ah yes, force the mob mentality or your wrong lol
You're the only guy I know who always sounds simultaneously happy and depressed to be talking about whatever it is you're talking about. I do enjoy your videos though!
it's almost impressive how a company can make such great games and still have no idea how to support people who like them
I agree, but to be fair in this context Panda are the real evil ones using Nintendo's policies
@@squid_cookie570 ya
I mean, people still play and buy new games, so why would they change?
@@squid_cookie570 yeah.
@@ItsMeBarnaby is that even true? what first-party nintendo releases are as formulaic as madden?
That's certainly one way to deter people from watching your own tournament, by using your power and leverage to snuff out the grass root competition. I doubt many of the hardcore fans are going to want to watch if all of this is true.
Nintendo loves them L's I tell ya
yep
Why this guy will get top Comment?Cuz hes verified.
These bots are getting out of hand.
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I mean, Luigi has L in his name, maybe there’s a correlation
but hey, that’s just a theory, a terrible theory
This breaks my heart to see. I love smash bros, not that I’m good at all, but this is truly scummy that this happened.
Nintendo: We like to make games you can have fun playing!
Fans: enjoy playing their games
Nintendo: NOT LIKE THAT!!!
Like bruh I play modded mario kart wii and other Wii mods and I'm developing a mod for both Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort
@@tobyzilla CTGPR is so dope I still play it too. Much better than the mechanical mess MK8D is
I agree and it's way to hand holding
Internet: Nintendo won't let us play how we want!!!
Internet: Plays Nintendo games however they want 99.9% of the time
@@Poefred That's only possible thanks to emulation.
I used to want to be smash player at the highest level, but things like this heavily discouraged me from chasing that. I hope one day that things change for the community
It won't, nothing will ever change. Your better off placing your hope in things that aren't impossible.
@@deezboyeed6764 damn bro, I know Nintendo's shitting in our cereal but let this man dream LMAO
@@glitchy1903 dreaming is fine, since its pure fantasy. But hoping is a waste of resources. This kind of shit doesnt get better and never will
Im not one to normally sit in the shit so to speak, but these past ~5 yrs of gaming has shown me a LOT. I have lost all my hope for company's to do better
Wasnt the tripping mechanic on brawl (that weird thing where your character would randomly trip for no reason) to make it almost impossible to play on a competitive level? thats how much they hate competitive smash, they would rather make their game shittier than have a pro smash scene. I know they walked it back (because it made the game almost unplayable) for ultimate but I think the sentiment is still there.
If there’s anything I learned, is that Reggie was a brilliant PR representative. It feels like everything went to shit once he left, but Nintendo was already like that while he was working for them.
I get what you mean. It’s probably just a coincidence, but it feels like the company’s been extra petty ever since Reggie left.
Reggie himself was also affiliated with the DMCA strikes as well so don't just pretend everything was beautiful and pretty when he was still around. He was also in charge of the online membership before Doug Bowser and Shuntaro Furukawa became presidents. People are too stupid to even realize that
@Necrotron Commenting Unit the fuck? the hell you mean?
@@M64bros Nobody is saying it wasn't already bad while Reggie was still president, but you can't deny it's gotten significantly worse.
@@midnalazuli793 significantly worse? That is still mentioning everything was beautiful and pretty back then when Reggie was still around. Look! I get that Nintendo has had some problems and we're criticizing them to help them improve. But not everything went downhill when Reggie and Iwata were gone.
Alan probably was bullied in school and longed for revenge. Now he got the power but got too close to the sun.
He’s a real life midtier with an Icarus complex.
"i feel there is no company who hates its own user-base more than nintendo"
I see your offer, and I raise you one Disney
*Gaming company, then
Nintendo is still much worse than Disney
freaking underrated😂
I'd put Nintendo above Disney lol
*Immediately folds
You know what baffles me is how PokeMMO has been around for almost 7 years and hasn’t been shut down
I know what you mean, feels like it's been sitting on a tight rope for years. I hope Nintendo never shuts it down
This was exactly the kind of news I knew you would cover. Thank you very very much for bringing attention to this disaster. Obviously something needs to happen. Things cannot go on like this.
its smash who really cares tbh.
@@iResistive clearly a lot of people.....?
@@beardalaxy is that a question or a statement?
Really you think this is important news? There’s people dying in Ukraine and you think this is important. Get a life video games isn’t important geek
@@beardalaxy seems like a straight forward solution
Every time I pirate another Nintendo game I feel like a hero.
No kiddin'. Been with Nintendo since Tetris but I think I can save my money for something more worthwhile.
Fuckin true. I grew up with Mario and still love it to bits, but my god what a truly dogshit company
I mean how else are you supposed to play there old games? I need to learn how
@@coatrak1357 emulators and rom downloads is the best way Imo
@h nintendo switch online subscribtion , but that crap doesnt count
Honestly wild that Alan might just be like a mafia boss that can sick the police on anyone he doesn’t like. Except y’know, the police being Nintendo’s lawyers. Actually despicable that he’d do something like this.
Alan: Level 50 Mafia Boss
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
I love that you teach things. FGC and such. Ty. Sad about the community.
I still remember my cross country team captain and another guy stuffing their GameCube and controllers into a bag, walking miles in what ended up being a downpour, they then shoved their shirts in the bag to protect the cube, then arrived at one of my first alcohol parties so we could smesh inside versus party with girls outside in a pool in the rain.
They put more effort into gate-keeping their games than they do making them.
repent to God christ
holy shit you really bagged a lot of bots with that one huh
I AM CHARLIE *LOL!!!!!!!!*
Damn bruh 6/8 replies look like bots
@@mistermuse9543 A personal record indeed
One correction to make: Right when he was getting into things, Charlie said Nintendo is very hands off with the Smash competitive scene. That's not true. Nintendo is very hands on. And their hands and their hands are on its throat, desperately trying to strangle it to death in a decade long fit of rage.
Facts Nintendo goes out of their way to murder anything competitive
True
@@TheNadroj10 Nintendo: "NOOOOOOOOOO! YOU'RE ENJOYING IT WRONG! STOP IT! STOP PLAYING IT LIKE THAT!"
Pretty strong community I would be surprised if major players didnt strike the new tournament
I read the title and assumed it was an older video from like a few months ago
The amount of drama that happens with Nintendo is unrivalled almost
Out of curiosity, the Panda contract just states they just had to attend right? Any chance the players could protest at the event by intentionally playing bad/whacky?
If I had signed a contract that's exactly what I'd do, or if not that purposely find some way to act that makes them want to void the contract
The kryptonite to Nintendo: install a reskin mod that turns Pikachu darker by 3 shades of yellow.
@@HairyJuan Sometimes you need to send the message.
Nintendo gonna have to trademark the Word "Cancel" at this point now.
I never thought I would see the day where Nintendo isn’t the biggest villain in a story
Charlie seems to keep himself even under the most stressful circumstances. His composure is something that we can all look up to.
Unless if he’s facing a moderately sized flying bug
@@forkgodsdescendant2503He was in complete control of that situation the entire time
Pu
thank you for representing the smash community moist, means so much to have a big channel like you in the smash community
You know Nintendo completely ignores twitter considering the backlash about the upcoming Mario movie. If the people who made Sonic were on that film, they would have dragged Pratt's ass back in there and had him sit with the most Italian man on earth for a month to re-record the lines.
Looking forward to being thrown in the raft for having My Mario Plushy still sitting on my desk, and during the investigation, having Nintendo find out I had mario wall stickers when i was like 10 😭
There's a case to be made where Nintendo could get sued, saying we only shut down events with mods etc is implicitly saying you can go ahead
Like I could only imagine the worst case scenario...
What if Nintendo shuts down modding? Like if they had the BALLS to go out of their way and release another unexpected firmware update, that doesn't seem much, but when looking closer, it reveals that if you even attempt to launch custom firmware, you can either get your console bricked, or you account can get banned.
That's pretty much my biggest fear when it comes to supporting a century old japanese corporation. They notice their fans desires, but they choose to ignore them and pretty much start treating them like their own enemies.
This comes to show how manipulative Nintendo can be at ALL times.
Alan is literally the kid on Xbox live that threatens that their dad works at Microsoft
LMAO yes!
Let's NOT ignore Panda Global's CEO huge part in this !!
He talks about the CEO a lot in the video lol
the ol read the title first and comment
@@kzendo6542 I know, i just see people ignoring Alan in the comments and making it a Nintendo thing
@@2moreminutes it doesn’t even look like people are watching the entire video. There’s articles stating that a Nintendo rep said Nintendo wasn’t planning to cancel anything. It’s pandaglobal’s fault mainly.
"Build up the fake friendship, then pull the rug out last minute to destroy their fighting spirit. Keep them from having the chance to get back up to their best again."
Love how Nintendo's communication is so bad that Charlie just assumes they will never respond 🤣
"You will play our games the way WE want you to, and if you don't we're gonna beat you until you do." is Nintendo's motto.
My impression is that's a pretty typical Japanese business mindset.
@@danieljensen2626 Except for the fact that this is Nintendo of America
@@danieljensen2626 Given that Nintendo alone has this reputation, I'm not buying that excuse anymore.
Nintendo really are like bouncers that let you in and as soon as you are in throw you out because you are having fun
Sailing the seas is the only ethical way to play the games of companies that hate you
Yar har fiddle dee dee!
@@BF_Brix Being a pirate is all right with me!
I'm just shocked that these companies keep doing stupid moves yet people still keep buying from them. Almost as if they know they'll still make sales no matter what stupid shit they do!
Probably ignorance. Lots of people don't know of or don't care about Smash, and enjoy other Nintendo games instead. And thus Nintendo makes money from people who are ignorant of the bad deeds.
Reminder that CEO of Panda Global snitched to Nintendo when other circuits refused to join the Panda Cup. I hate Nintendo’s tournament/esports management but Alan is a piece of shit for trying to monopolize Smash Bros tournaments
It's almost like a company that has dominated in the industry for 20 years has enough cushion monetarily to bounce back from a mistake here and there.
It would be a different story if we were talking about an indie game dev or something.
Because the games are good.
If the product is good, the company can be as evil as it wants.
Honestly I just do it to not waste money after spending way too much goddamn money buying the obsolete pile of dirt known as a switch
Imagine training for months and then they do this shit
Even worse than that.
Players who qualified from international events are already in the country or have hotels booked they can't get refunded.
@@parsath_2584 not only that players like chag and ferps spent thousands traveling around the world to compete and qualify for SWT.
I hope Panda's players are ok after this. I like Marss, Wadi, and ESAM and I hope they don't get affected by their boss's unhealthy ambition.
I also like mars, wadi, and tkbreezy, but I have to hard disagree with you on Esam.
I can’t forgive Esam for all the things he has done in the past including:
1. Dog piling on Mew2King with false accusations that were proven false without ever apologizing to him
2. Excessive use of the N word
, Esam, in a livestream with Nairo, gave himself the N word pass because “I say it better than most” before telling Nairo to “ (Black person) go boxing ring (bundle of sticks)”. Esam also called a different player a “watermelon loving, fried chicken eating, grape juice drinking (6 letter word) that can’t drive or swim”
If you go to search bar and put in “Esam go boxing ring” you can hear it yourself. His apology video when he got exposed was also bad, when he literally said “I talked to people that fell into the categories of the words I said and they all said I was okay”.
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Wadi is a fucking saint
Throw esam on the trash
I would support just Wadi
I'm from the Melee loving community. I fear for Plup mostly.
He is the perfect ambassador for the new Oregon trail video game . I remember watching those years ago and dying
Of dysentery?
@@JacobPlays136 lolll many times he definitely needs to make anything series playing the new one
I died too. Alot.
I'll never understand why they do shit like this, the amount of time and resources they are going to spend on this beats whatever they would lose 10 fold if they had just let the event happen
Because Panda
It is sad to see this go! It would have been a legacy and an amazing experience for the community!
Nintendo is hands on with the smash community in the same way a strangling is hands on
Lmao nice comparison
Ngl smash fans were assholes to sakurai
This is like in "The Incredibles movie" were Syndrome kills every hero to be the only superhero
Panda also hosts some of the biggest FGC players too, Justin Wong being a prime example. Wonder how they'll take this move.
@Patrick39 Hey buddy how's it feel having the personality of a goldfish?
I just recently got the Wii U for the sole purpose of wanting to play some old N64 classics (Majoras Mask etc) but of course the eShop closed down just a few days before I got to download them… Really sucked, I wish they could open it up for like a day so that the fans can download the stuff they want and then they can close it.
Hack the wii u, problem solved