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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2015
- In Basicfield, I break down all the basics of an aspect of Battlefield 4, and in this jet tutorial guide I talk all about Airpower and aircraft. I cover Steatlh Jets and Attack Jets, tactics for both, general strategy, maneuvering, loadouts, and general tips that I've picked up in the last few months I've been in the skies with these aircraft.
Learn more about Battlefield 4 Jets:
Killing the Mobile Anti-Aircraft: • Minuteman - Killing th...
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Art of the Kill: • Art of the kill
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Handy tip number 2. If you are at the attack aircraft and you 've got a good fighter pilot in your tale, eject immediately.
Just lead him to a stationery aa
fun fact: real life pilots use 2sec burst on a10 warthog since the gun fires so fast and deadly the gun can melt it material if you hold the down long enough, 2 sec of fire of the gatling 30mm gun is enough to destroy anything , even highest armoured vehicles, this attack jet is also referred as the graveyard keeper since the gatling gun on this aircraft can do so much that damage that it can kill and dig up graves at the same.
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handy tip: If you are in an attack jet and the stealth jet pilot is good make your way to your base, but spot the jet in consoles if you look behind you you can spot them in third person. The AA will reck them
How do I look behind me on ps4
did you know that AA mean Anti Air?
@@jacobr.5762 hit left trigger in 3rd person
I love the way you explain things..Your verbiage makes it seem so intense and makes me feel like I'm an actual fighter pilot going into real dog fights
Nice video mate, you really managed to jam that info in!
Ghost Gaming - Improve Your Game You know it too, there's like another half hour one could go on and on about the depth of jet gameplay.
Yeah true mate, that's why I tend to cover things bit by bit as they come to me.
Pro tip:when you and a jet enter the same airspace, and both of you are facing each other at 12, you should fly straight towards your enemy, if he is sane he will pitch up. Pop ECM and follow him
I spend a lot of time flying jets in this game, interesting to know that we both have the exact same keyboard and setup.
This video got me to where i am now
A tactic i use if your on controller and play air superiority (idk PC conrolls) i slow my speed down in enemy spawn, i stay low and pop ECM (best countermeasure) and pull up at a angle, this will get you on a sharp turn to their rear for a easy kill, if you are being tailed, try not to expose your topside (it will give the enemy a easier ttk and hard to avoid
On stealth Jet (i dont use attack jets often):
25mm
ECM
Active Radar Missiles
Gyro Stabilizer (missiles will tear you up, you need the extra help)
If it helps and you see this i hope it works well 4 u
Simply excellent!
I'm not a big fan of jet gameplay in BF4, where as I loved it in BF3. Been starting to get more and more into it again, and while I definitely know my homework with them, videos like these are always welcome to freshen up the memory.
PS: The guide on taking out enemy MAA was surprisingly useful, I had never really thought of taking out enemy anti-air as opposed to ignoring/avoiding it (depending on how it's used). Been taking out some pesky and very dedicated little snipers with that thing on large maps now, making them think twice before wasting half a game in the hills again in what I perceive as one of the most multipurpose vehicles up to date, trumping even BF3's Tunguska.
i find trying to mirror your opponents maneuvers by using the minimap and sound clues right after you break in a head-on to be very helpful. usually you end up in a figure 8 with a new head-on coming. more often than not, the enemy has either continued going in a straight line for just a bit too long, and you can get behind them, or they have started doing the circle immediately which also puts them ahead of you and gives you a great solution to take them down. if you keep breaking in front of each other, just fiddle about with the distance before you turn and you will usually find yourself ending up behind them. unless the rare occasion when they actually adapt lol. i think attack jet vs stealth jet is the most amusing, the differences of the two makes for a well mixed and entertaining dogfight.
haha the chat at 1:03 ... golmund railway never changes
hi. damn. i think you just made the first most informative video on the jets @ BF4.
Tip: When using guided rockets for the stealth jet, look for tank on tank battle and help your friendly tank out. Then you are most likely to get kills and make your team able to push on. There may be no point of shooting tanks that have just spawned. usually they get repaired and rockets do reload quite a while.
I always use the laser guided rockets
Slightly outdated video but very accurate at time it was released. I don't remember when "below radar" bacame a thing. Also they kinda gave stealth jet's cannon different properties depending what you are shooting at. 20mm cannon is best for air to air ( it has +20% more damage vs helicopters), 25mm aquired some small splash damage and is now suitable to taking out infantry, 30mm is for heavy armored vehicles I suppose...I don't use it so I don't know where it shines. Anyway when there are no pesky helicopters and no good pilots on enemy side you should go for 25mm so you can have some fun with infantry ( it's still hard tho ). They change JDAM. They changed Laser Guided Missiles. Earlier you could fire 2 missiles one after another. Later it was changed so theres a reload time between each other ( probably they also increased it's damage). There's a trick when you are using laser guided misisles. Usually vehicle driver will activate Active Protection when he hear target warning sound. Better drivers will wait till missile launch and then will activate it. The trick is to target some other vehicle or whatever you can aquire target on, shoot the missile and swap target to the one you are willing to hit. That can catch driver offguard and often he won't manage to activate APS in time. JDAM was also changed. Similar to Laser Guided Missile you have now reload time between each JDAM drop but they do more damage. Attack Jet's cannon was nerfed to oblivion, mainly vs other aircrafts what I see as a good thing. About speed management. I'm still using that 313 sweet spot. I didn't know they change that. I searched forums and some ppl say its now 300-320, others that its around that but the sharpest turn is during slowing down. I Don't know right answer. As I mentioned I am using 313 method till today and I am managing to keep up with pr0 dogfight tryhards or at least being a little thorn in their buttchick and buy some time for teammates ;]
Awesome vid Darth! Love jetting!
Very well explained, and informative
Excellent. Thank you for this.
Great job on this. I'm intimidated by most of the vehicles because I don't spend the needed time to get better at them.
Good video - points I would have made: a section on aiming (lining up the sweet spot in the centre of mass of the enemy Jet), A good pilot is one who has mastered the cannon, once mastered, there is no need for the air-to-air missles, a bigger focus on learning to read the Air Radar - its how I do most of my flying, just off of the Air Radar, and a section on Speed control in 3rd person.
thx for the guide I will try it in my next fight
Great tips Darth!
It cannot be stressed enough that you should never shoot head-on in a dogfight. It seems like the intuitive thing to do, but is almost always the wrong answer. I liken it to a Brazilian Ju Jitsu/Wrestling match where someone tries to just go for a submission from a terrible position. The idea is that you should fight for position first, and then go for the kill, not try to ignore the position game and do things quick and dirty. That's going to be a jet ram more often than not. Also, a lot of beginners seem to get confused by the air radar when a jet is doing a vertical loop. On the minimap the jet just immediately turns around because the map isn't in three dimensions, and pretty much all of my friends go "how does he turn like that?!" :D
Those are some good shots
Man, I remember getting shrekt in BF3. I went up in the air hundreds of times and got shot down. Nowadays I get kills left and right. Im surprised I was self taught. But you are right how following those rules you mentioned already made one a better jet pilot than the majority of players.
One thing I think would have been useful to mention is the free-look when in first person. Great video though. :)
Good stuff! Seriously. Fantastic!
The only additional thing that may be worth mentioning is that on a low attack run, a scout chopper with miniguns can mess you up really quickly. They can't really get you while you're above them, but if you make a pass straight down on them, overshoot, and wind up below them, they can still ruin your day, if they know what's going on and can judge the lead right. If they're running air radar, and miniguns, they mean business. Assume that they know that you're above them, and make shorter runs that end with you still above them, rather than trying to get them in one pass.
When I fly the scout, I notice that a lot of jets don't think I know where they are. I catch a lot of them napping, because of my air radar and miniguns. The ones that I have the most trouble with are the ones that stay above me. In those cases, I have to go hide behind the base AA and hope another jet comes along to get them off me.
***** I pay a LOT of attention to the orientation of helicopters when I'm flying. If they start following me on radar I go ballistic and pay them a lot more attention!
***** Smart. At that point, he's identified himself as a threat.
I don't make it policy to pick those fights from a scout chopper, but sometimes the guy's making it easy or I'm trying to help out a friendly jet (I'm next on the menu after that jet). You did just convince me to make sure I don't tip my hand too early, though.
Great video
I love the stealth jet woth the laser guided missiles and 20 mm cannons, but post patch I'm more of a pest to armor on the ground. At least the 20 mm is still good for air targets especially jets.
very nice skills and thoughts
I was flying in BF series and specifically BF4 since launch of both the series and BF4 so when I was clicking the video I was waiting to get fed a load of bullshit and laugh at it just as usual with these videos, but this was quite informative and surprisingly true.
One tip id highly recommend on pc is use a controller for jets. Maybe its because i came from console, but no matter how much i changed the controls on pc, i could never use the jet with mk. Using a controller just makes it infinitely easier for me
The amount of work you put in your videos aren't appreciated enough, you deserve a lot more views and subs
Managing airspeed on a controller is actually really hard due to how you have to flick the joystick down :(
I find it easier. In bf3 is used the r2 and l2 for speed control.
Veteran Legacy controls are the most similar to Keyboard and Mouse as Darth described. I used to fly on PC as well, and I think Darth's setup is the most superior as far as raw functionality. The best way to mimic it on console is veteran legacy (for both choppers and jets actually). It's actually almost unheard of for any strong console pilot to lose a dogfight to someone on the horrible default controls. They limit you so much.
Yea just to echo what Natsu saying, if your on console you have to fly jets sticks on default but JET BUTTONS ON VETERAN is a must. Then go to the test range and get used to flying with those controls.
+Natsu how do they limit you ? If u don't mind me asking
You cannot roll the plane while pitching on default simultaneously. It's important to do both of these simultaneously for a variety of maneuvers.
I actually find that the gyro stabiliser is better to use on attack jets because you don't have an afterburner to get away from the lock-on after you've made a pass. Often the heatseeker can still lock on to you despite having stealth coating because the attack jet simply isn't fast enough to get away from it, so gyro stabiliser helps to "tank" the hit.
Hey Can You make a video on Aiming especially aiming on ground targets,I learned a lot from you and GhostGaming,i can take out air targets easy,but for ground i cant aim out ,and even if i got to aim i either get rpged or Stinger to face or crash,and those infantary are impossible to hit,especially in console,i cant see them from range and when i gt in range its too late
I hate the lvl 140 ace jet pilots. They are impossible to beat. Only option -> rendezook :). Good video darth. A lot of info. When I have got behind the enemy jet and start shooting, I usually try to have the same tilt angle. So if the enemy jet is like / I don't want to attack in a flat position. I find it easier to aim when being exactly as how the enemy jet is.
I'm a couple years late but im just getting into bf4 and wanna start flying
hey
can you post ur jet/heli setting?
thanks
I liked the video, however I only play hardcore, and only fly jets on maps where I can land and rep, I would say always got for large calibre on Stealth jets, if you start hitting an enemy, he'll be dead before he gets the time to realise and react. on normal more, everyone ejects, also, it's easy to target a dorito
I find nothing more satisfying than road killing a jet pilot who tried to bail at the last second so I wouldn't get the kill.
In the future can you go over the CTE changes to the different stealth jet cannons that you mentioned in this video as well as the removal of the ideal 313 turn radius?
John Smith Absolutely!
Brillant! I see myself as a good all rounder on the battlefield but jets are the one area I would say Im average at best, this video was a great help.
When I built my PC and bought BF3, first thing I did was go out and buy a USB 360 controller.
I played a bunch on 360 before and couldn't imagine flying without a controller.
Another thing: the only actual camouflage is no camouflage (or changing every spawn).
Jets are always pretty visible, the only thing that a bright blue/red/whatever camouflage does is identify you to a decent enemy pilot, and allow them to prioritise you appropriately.
DumbledoreDies Yep. I usually pick something grey or blue. Although I feel like my camos have been bugged lately, as if I spawn too quickly they don't show up on my end.
Yeah, the camo has been bugged since I can remember. That blue is probably one of the worst for giving you away though, just sayin.
Most of it was pretty spot-on though, the rules of engagement should be especially useful for newbs.
The only problem for me in terms of flying has been whenever I spawn I start to right away hear lock on missiles coming to me then I use flares but another missile hits me and I manage to fly above the clouds or so but Anti-Air kills me. Like I can stay max 10 seconds in air and I have a pretty good controls etc. Its just whenever I am against sweats on jet its impossible or if I play with the sweats they use jets whole match and get crazy 143 kills so there’s no grey area. Battlefiled sucks for being very unfair game and the unbalanced mechanics are not helping at all.
I play hard core 98% of the time. Any time there's a jet I go for it and I would say I'm above average for sure but not quite an ACE, maybe a junior ace level 1. Anyway I have 100ss in the stealth jets (4695 kills) & 62ss in the attack jet (2375 kills). Just wanted to say I still found this video useful thanks. I play on 360 soon to be on xb 1 and and from what I here from a lot of pc players in bf4 it's better to use keyboard & mouse.
Digglebee Johnson Hats off to you -- HC is HARD in jets. Incidental damage stacks up pretty quick. Gotta get good at landing and repairing on carriers and runways in Second Assault.
Man, I have to always go to 1st person just cause I need to track my speeds and altitude. and I gotta try that micro side-to-side strafe on ground target. How much is your vehicle sensitivity setting and your DPI? Lately I feel like I need to ramp up a few DPIs (since my mouse is DPI-programmable) to be a bit more reactive in vehicles.
ezra9401 vehicle sensitivity settings are at the halfway mark on the sliders. DPI on the mouse is 800. My mouse sensitivity in general is pretty high so I don't think it's for everybody.
I never thought of binding map key to something accessible, thanks for tip :)
Here is tip you maybe missed. If you are up against 2 enemy jets alone, spot them and make them chase you to your base or to your MAA.
What sensitivity do you use on jets
Can u make an awesome video how
To helicopter pilot?
Love your voice"over" !! Like arnold.schwarzenegger is teaching me how to !!
Agilltokill
Darth. DARTH!! I shot down another plane yesterday ... and then somehow got killed in action randomly.
suLLy gaming It was karma.
Subbed! I'm on PS4 and I still need guidance on losing tails. They stay on my no matter what.
Also I have an issue with finding infantry from the sky.
I personally feel like Jets can potentially control the whole game. I ran into pilots who wiped squads and turned everyone into engineers with iglas. If a pilot is good enough he can destroy a battlefield.
OverthereLook True; but it takes boots on the ground to win in conquest. There's only so much that can be done from the air, and even the best pilots can really just make it easier for their team to win. Team's still got to cooperate, though :)
*****
agreed. those pro pilots I mentioned earlier made the match a living hell for us but we still won off of just capturing flags. The other team even had better overall KD ratios but we just kept taking bases.
darthveda Yea but bassicaly 4 pro People in tanks and 1 Pro in sealth jet and another in attack jet is gonna win the game,seriously,
is it just me or are the main guns on jets in bf4 stuck atm, i can't seem to replace them
Im a veteran ace combat and simulator pilot. Will bf4 be any different?
What is your pitch UP button?
Are you doing a helicopter video still vader?
I don't know, Darth.. being higher than your enemy isn't always helpful. #420blazeit
All jokes aside, great video. This is exactly what everyone needs when they wanna learn to fly jets. no overkill jet maneuver tutorial, just basic strategy and understanding of the mechanics.
Absolutely wonderful video !
It seems a lot of people are trying the jet only because of the Phantom assignment. I have always been bad in the air vehicles. but o h well, just 16 more kills and i get my Tags. Then i go get the bow. Just to get it.
I'd pay to see Ghost gaming and Darthveda go at it in jets
He'd probably win. Pilots that can 313 better than me (which is probably anybody that's practiced it extensively) will beat me hands down.
But you make flying in jets both easy and pretty good.
My only problem its that i im in console and you can't rebind and the controls are so confusing
I use space for afterburner since it’s not that important in a battle, then I use a and d for rolling, w for pitch down, and s for pitch up (if pitch up means to get lower altitude and opposite for what I said for pitch up then it’s opposite), and then e, q, and the mouse for the yaws, I use this so that my mouse is to aim, also because when u played jets in gta 5, it was the same without the mouse to aim, also I use right click to look behind me and for free look. Also, the aa is the shittest thing in the game, it literally can equip missiles that do heatseeker dmg, fire before lock on, and then lock on and do instant dmg before reaction, yes passive radar, has a gun that can kill jets close to 1000 meters away, and it can just get on high ground, and u can’t avoid it, ffs. Also, I think jdams are the best because u can just use cannons, then finish ur targets off when exiting the dive.
How I use aircraft, fly to a destination and jump out.
you're barbaric
How can you even see those jets on Gulf of Oman? I hate the sandstorm..
SpiderDice Minimap, audio cues, watch for their afterburners and contrails when they turn.
i switched away from ECM idk what's the problem but the moment i hear lock-on i use it and still get hit
Xtrem Active Radar Missiles are pretty hard to stop, and I see ECM fail about 25-50% of the time to stop a lock-on. Once the missile is in flight, its failure rate on aircraft is more like 95%.
Why do they look small and simple?
2nd in Canada in Jets 30th in the world :)
Lol I called it the circle of death the first Tim it happened to me
Can some
Good and in-depth video, but I think you need to better separate your points. You don't make long enough pauses between major points, and as a result - your entire video feels like a single massive wall of text and becomes hard to follow after a while. A several-second pause and some kind of transition with the name of the topic would make this much info feel less overwhelming and easier to follow.
"I find jet combat to be one of the most rewarding experiences in BF4"
Yeah, I dare you to say that now in 2021. It sucks now
Could you please put more subtitles because I'm legally blind.
BlueSpace70 Any time I do a video that isn't straight out of live coms (Ace Squad and Over Your Shoulder), I'll include subtitles like on this video :)
***** It was supposed to be a bad joke, but this video was really helpful. Looking forward for more of these awesome guides!
Fun fact:ranger Dave is the best bf player in the world
just watching this video gives me a migraine. I could do without jets entirely.
What is the hard counter to them anyways? Only other jets... if one team has a pilot worth anything, that team typically wins the match. You know first hand that the AA is not a counter to these things, according to your video :)
PolishAssassin01 The best counter to jets is another jet. Which really stinks because of the 2v2 dynamic of most maps. It means that if you have one or two great pilots on one team, they can keep the other two out of the air permanently.
***** exactly my point. Jets are the equivalent of a never ending UCAV. Sure, it takes some skill and seat time to get good, but god damn is it ever annoying to que into a server where one team has a 70-0 pilot round after round.
Every game of Chess has a Queen piece. Jets cannot cap flags, that's their weakness.
The mobile AA ie: the LAV-AD is the hard counter to jets. Granted this video pertains to soft core mode with mini maps and 3-d spotting and 3rd person cam etc.
AA is not very proficient at taking down jets.
I'd even argue that the AA is better at taking out Infantry than it is at taking out anything in the air at all.
That's a sexy keyboard... What is it
RevengeRabbit Logitech G710
this is supposed to be a "basics" video?
holy ****
Look ad dis duude usin an su-25 (close air support jet !!!) in a dogfight
It'll take care of defeating 90% of pilots out there.
I've never been able to fly :(
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FloatingBreeze boooop. titititititititiiiing boom
I can't play jets, as i find the turn fights are so boring and take no skill, just luck really.
There's actually a relative bit of skill to keeping your aircraft at the optimal speed while maneuvering. I could beat about 98% of other pilots out there by using the techniques I lay out in this video. Half the remaining 2% could be jumped using under-the-radar. The remaining 1% were on a totally another level, and generally, people who only EVER played jets.
how to you know youre jet speed in 3d mode?
No free chase camera view on jet like in Bf2.
Bf4 is disgusting.
It has one
what a lot of bullshit. the single most important thing as a guy that has 20k of those sweet stealth jet kills is : keep your fucking speed. you just tapped that topic with like 20 secs at max. you NEED to adjust the camera to the bf3 style for best speed control wich means jet rolling camera OFF in the gameplay settings. then you can precisely see wich position on the clock youre at. 12 to 6 youll break and switch to cockpit to keep it at 313 as good as you can and upwards from 6 to 12 youll tap the afterburner exactly 3 times. this alone will get you above 99% of the noobs out there as youll turn circles arround them. also max out FOV. second most important thing IS rolling scissors. its not advanced its necessary and as basic as it gets. hylianchris has superb tutorials for that. scissors are the most important defensive thing you can do in this game throwing even experienced pilots off if you keep your speed. its kinda hard to watch a guy that doesnt even have his camera set the right way and uses ecm on public servers when you can often get hit under ecm talk about jets xD. for loadouts 20mm if youre tryharding on air 25mm for killing infantry and air. air to air missiles are NEVER a good idea. youre wasting kills per minute by not having laser guided missiles youre losing your spotting of ground targets by not taking it and also they almost never hit. actives are fucking useless. youre going to use the laser guided ones to spot infantry and kill ground targets and if youre absolute trash with the gun use passive radars as experienced pilots like me will flare AFTER the missile warning is coming in and passives are already there at that point. that will get even the most experienced pilots at least one time until they know someone is running them giving you at least that one kill. theres so much more bullshit that youve talked about that i really dont want to get into detail but from the perspective of someone that played this game scince release to this day it hurts my brain to watch this.