China's Internal Passport System - Country Folk Can't Enter the Cities
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- Why doesn't anyone talk about this? China has a brutal caste system, if you're born in the rural areas you're in for a rough ride!
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This also explain why some students take education very seriously. Because if they land a good job, they may have the opportunity to change their hukou. My mother changed hers from a really remote village to the third largest city because she was a doctor. The hospital helped people like her to change hukou. But this was in 1990s. It is even harder now to change hukou. Which is also why many people want to marry someone with good city hukou. Personality and moral goes out of window when you can change your hukou forever.
The US has a caste system based on wealth and connections. It's extremely difficult to work your way up. I grew up in some fairly rural areas and tried to work my way up and no matter how hard I worked, I've just ended up poor in the city instead of poor in the countryside. At least in the countryside I could fish, pick fruit and things, and it was a lot more fun. I feel it was a mistake to strive the way I did. In the US you're born in a caste and you're asking for a miserable life if you try to change your caste.
@@alexcarter8807 i dont think so, you were just unlucky
@@alexcarter8807 Tell me about it! You can get rich in the US, even now, but you have to really want it and in addition to knowing how money and wealth function within a society, you have to cultivate good social relationships, which means proving time and again your reliability as a professional underling. Often, going above and beyond the call of duty will get you noticed by the people that matter.
The difference between upper class and lower class isn't the money, but the upbringing and education. Upper class people are taught about how money functions and how social relationships affect your ability to access it, while lower class people usually aren't and much of their education is focused on getting a job and not on learning how money and wealth function. Though it isn't so easy to fall down the ladder of success if you're upper class, it is still possible to be down on your luck financially if you insist on squandering your wealth and disgracing the family name in the process.
Country life is great until you have to hand over most of the fruits of your labor to some absentee overlord.
@@alexcarter8807 Yeah right, the average poor person in America fishes and picks fruit to be able to live....
@@alexcarter8807 I like how you didn't DIRECTLY say you were born in the U .S. A or even been here
China is probably one of the only countries in the world where you are simultaneously in the past, present, and future with firm distinction.
Honestly I could say the same about America, as an European. Some of the best tech and some of the worst living conditions there. And backwards-ass traditions too.
India lives in 3 centuries at once. There are states with HDI equivalent to that of European countries and there are some states with HDI of that of some of the poorest countries in Africa. It's almost impressive just how wide the spectrum is.
@@reubennelson4086 big countries , big variance. Not really that hard to grasp... Also, the variance is equally high in wealth, India's two richest men are simultaneously richest in Asia and their combined worth is equal to 130 billion dollars while at the least the income can be as low as 100 dollars.
One has to be very ignorant to think that way. It's the case in many countries, more or less.
@@luosuo9929 Thank you for confirming my statement. With China, it is MORE or MOST.
They use the “you are from the country side “ as a slur
There used to be a similar system before the collapse of the USSR where I am from, in Bulgaria. People were prevented from freely moving from the countryside to the cities and the same kind of slur emerged. With the change to democracy (1990), there was a massive and fast migration to the big cities and now most of the countryside lies abandoned with hundreds of villages completely empty. Today almost everyone calls the city home but somehow “you are from the countryside“ remains an insult.
To be fair, that kind of dynamic happens in most countries. Ask anyone from upstate NY.
@@ShaferHart I doubt it has the same sting as in China.
@@ShaferHart I expect this kind of dynamic to happen everywhere. I guess what I mean is that in my country "you are a villager" is still in the top 3 of most common insults, on the same level as a bastard, son of a bitch, etc. I don't think that's true for most countries.
@carebear09 White Hell, even the 'insult' sounds cute. "Country bumpkin"
It's crazy how much videos you recorded in China, to still be able to pull out some videos till now
I have plenty more
@@serpentza how has recording lots of stock videos and, I presume backing them up on the cloud, not gotten you deported as a spy?
@@IvanAkinfiev I think he left a while ago he and the Mrs. I believe now reside in LA.
He and cmilk were talking about taking their talents to other places in Asia like 'Nam but i guess the 'rona put all his plans on hold
@@IvanAkinfiev they left when that was about to happen around 3 years ago.
@@IvanAkinfiev I'm guessing Winston had ways of staying under the radar (a.k.a trying to not offend the Chinese government). He began releasing less-positive videos after he and his wife left China.
*China* : We are communist and believe in a classless society!
*Also China* : Hukou system Whoop Whoop!
Similar in North Korea with their 3-level cast system. Kinda contradicts the idea of communism lol
Remember in USA the equivalent of this is systemic racism thru white privilege & supremacy. (/sarcasm)
Just had to put it out there because I've read enough comments, stories, etc from fellow Asians (mostly the ones born here) about being oppressed thru systemic racism here in the USA. If you were so oppressed by the institution, then you haven't lived the lives of the people that these videos have shown.
we had an identical system in Romania during communist times. It was a HUGE deal to get a Bucharest ID
@@dracowar6 interesting, I didn't know that and will look into it to learn more about it! Greetings from Switzerland
caste system goes brrrr
Imagine if Western style, self-critical journalism was allowed in China. Would it seem like the sky was falling 24/7? Crazy stories that would make Floridaman look quaint? I wonder what that'd be like.
It'd basically be the west with fast trains but no democracy.
That sort of journalism is dying here in the west so only a matter of time.
That stuff died around the late 90s after things such as the Iran WMD story was allowed to roll out with no heads roiling. What's great in today is the fact that people can be their own journalists and directly post primary sources and accounts on the internet.
If we had to rely only on the approved press we'd be just as doomed.
what kind of western critical journalism are you talking about? if anything, during the scamdemic we were shown how much the presstitutes lie to us
@@bolek-trolek guess I had a non-existant virus this January then lol
Influencers are the worst source
The Chinese HuKou system is definitely something that is underreported on. Describing it as a kind of 'caste system' is a good analogy.
@Hans Weissmann - That was uncalled for. Would you like to enlighten us?
I for one am here to learn more about Chinese culture and living conditions through these videos and any information you could share would be appreciated.
@@TSZatoichi These videos are made by China haters, seek better sources
@@maxworth4687 - I find them to be especially informative and credible. Winston in particular growing up in SA in the 80's and 90's has a unique viewpoint that I find to be pretty valuable. I don't know if you've noticed, but the CCP took an extreme authoritarian turn in the 2010's and these two guys were there *before,* *during,* and *after* that transition. I'm concerned about the types of practices that China is using against their own population being used here in the US, and being able to recognize the warning signs before they happen here would be useful to me.
The other thing that worries me about China is their newly aggressive attitude on the world stage, and trying to sift through the mountains of propaganda that China pumps out on a daily basis can be a pain. Have you been paying attention to the way Chine has been 'helping' small countries in Africa? Do you still believe that there's nothing going on in Xinjiang with the Uighurs? How about Three Gorges, perfectly safe? You believe in the propaganda about 'the greening of China'? There's very little that comes out of China that can be taken at face value, disregard that at your own peril.
But, you know, we're both just 'some guy on the internet', so who gives a fuck anyway, right?
@@TSZatoichiYeah these guys who don't even speak Mandarin very well and can't read it for sure are good sources on China. Be more worried about your own government than lies that they themselves spread.
@@maxworth4687 - You get paid in Yuan or Dollars?
When i worked in a German multinational company a year ago, when managing China employee's portfolio, I've seen "Non-Agricultural" and "Agricultural" Hukou. I never knew what it meant.
So this is what it means.......
Did it make a difference though?
@@luosuo9929 yes, of course!
@@B-Man-69 what was the difference - your company gave them different wages by "hukou"?
@@luosuo9929 paycheck differences. I thought those are just coincidences. Also, there are other disparities but those information are confidential.
@@B-Man-69 I don't suppose any of the confidential details includes party membership?
We have the same system in Vietnam, the word for it is "Hộ Khẩu" which sound close to the Chinese one. Before they changed it in 2006, you need to be either: a, own a property in the city or b, be born into a household from the city to have a city household register which is required for basically everything. People from the country side are obviously not born in the city so the other way to get a city household register is to own a property in the city but they can't even buy a property in the city without a city household register... The only option left is to get married to a city folk and hope that your in law add you to their household register.(household register have a designated head of household which is usually the man of the house who get to decide who to add to the household register)
After 2006, you can buy a property in the city and after 3 years of living there you can get your household register changed to your new address. Or in case of renting you can get permission from the landlord and register your household there which is very hard.
and even after the legally problematic system is solved, the discrimination is pretty much still there. many people will still look up to your birthplace to decide how will they treat you accordingly :)
@@hoangd4132 wow the people would already discriminate based on you live in country side or not without this system existed, with this system people will discrimate for sureeeee.
In Moscow they don't like giving good benefits to newcomers. You have to live 10 years in your newly bought property.
I heard about this system when living in China and I wasn’t even trying to find out more information about it. Chinese complained to me about it. Even a semi-stranger complained to me about it.
Reminds me somewhat of our own system here in communist Romania, where having a Bucharest ID card was something that was very highly valued. Thank the heavens we got out of that, even with our current problems.
I've heard Romania was one of the worst Eastern Bloc countries to live in, with the egomaniacal Nicolae Ceausescu demanding a grand palace while his country was practically starving to death, among many other things.
Hey serpentza, this is a bit off topic but I wanted to say that I absolutely love your English pronunciation and accent, one of the easiest to listen to and very pleasing to the ears. I'm not a native speaker and sometimes I have trouble understanding people but never you. Keep fighting the good fight!
He's south african
@@user-sk9qo6ts8d But speaks like a Brit.
@@KevinPhillips_kw well he's speaking the english language with an afrikaner accent. It's not really debatable that's just what it is. Your ofcourse entitled to your opinion although i'm guessing your not well travelled.
@@user-sk9qo6ts8d You just made yourself look so uneducated it is ridiculous!
It's not really debatable ...oh yes it f-ing is !
Your own lack of education and travel isn't though!
No, he is isn't speaking with an Afrikaner accent! He is speaking with more of a British accent because he is half British! What? Do you think all Brits sound like the Queen and Harry Potter?
Ask anyone with half a brain (not you obviously) to guess which country he comes from after listening to him speak - not a single person would say South Africa!
Afrikaans is not his first language, nor can he speak it well as a second, so why the F would it be his main accent, you complete and utter moron!
@@KevinPhillips_kw did you have to edit your little essay there pal😅 abit much for you was it? Klu klux kev I'm sorry to break it to you an all the other morons but ahh your wrong.. 🤷♂️
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serpentza Why you hate China bro?
Sincere advise it would be better for you and your family long term life if you limit to none exposure of your family members.laowhy too.
I seen too many dramas and the higher it is the harder the drop hurts.
Research it then make a desicion and you can delete this comment after reading it as it is for you.
I love your guys works thanks.
@@sunset2.00 English not a strong point?
@Asia Asia when was the last election?
@@osamabinladen824 great to see you're back! Thought that vid of you getting shot was fake!
This is why Lizigi is stuck into countryside making her own furniture and boiling silk worms. Mystery solved.
Omg I love Lizigi! She was a DJ though, and I’d guess that was a big part of how she grew a following in the early days. Otherwise, I don’t know how she would’ve got started.
@@doraymeandyou I think people like her because she shows a fantasy living a peaceful and slow life when everyone is kinda forced into busy lives until death in the cities.
I love your imagination. But no that's totally irrelevant. Li Ziqi used to work in the city as a DJ. But she chose to go back to her rural home since she liked that better. And it seemed to be a good decision.
Nice video. Loved the look from Sasha at the beginning 😂. That growl. And then her laughing at the woman picking her nose.
Women don't sweat. They glow so they say.
She is beautiful.
Very interesting. Thank you for shedding light on this topic.
I remember the diffculty that so many of the people I knew in China because of this system. Often it was explained to me tha it kept the growth of the cities under a managable level. They didn't want most of the rural people moving to the city at the same time which would overwhelm them. Obviously this is not true since countries like India don't seem to have a problem with free movement of people. Great video Winston. We all appreciate the good work you're doing.
Actually urbanisiation in developing countries cause the development of slums. That is the case in India too. So yes it would overwhelm the cities. They often can not build infrastructure and hosuing fast enough.
But obviously migrants do have a better live in the city, otherwise they would not move. So it is a bad fix to make things look better.
Have you seen an Indian city.... lmao
India has no such laws to regulate the flow of people into cities, which is why our cities are full of slums on the outskirts. There needs to be control, but discriminating on that basis in jobs, education, etc, is which I definitely not support..
We know that many people in slums are from countryside as they sold their lands but cannot get jobs in cities.
@@ArghyadeepPal on what basis should the government discriminate then...? have the country people participate in a lottery? discriminate based on height? dick size? discriminating on the basis on jobs and education sounds as close to fair as you can get to me. i'm interesting in hearing your suggestion though
That Hukou system is basically what every feudal society had. It serves to prevent the peasants (who ware basically the property of their local lord) from connecting, "getting ideas" and banding together to ultimately rebel.
In the same way, Peasants in China are kept away from the cities (except for necessary work), so they don't mingle with te city folk... and this is not only to prevent them from "getting ideas", but also from being seen. As long as peasants keep to the country side, they stay invisible. Even if there is a local revolt, because their local Party Lord went waaay over board in wronging his serfs, you really won't hear much about it. If that happened in a city, there'd be too many witnesses for the government to brush this under.
sounds like the Hans became the Qings . And the modern day hairstyle is your social credit score. HA!
lol!
The guy just sitting there on top the air con and climbing up the building like it was nothing😳
Not for all the nopes in Nopeville!
Yeah he's pretty cool. ;)
Most Westerners would both be too heavy and not strong enough (because of their weight), to be able to sit on it and to be able to climb back up.
This reaction just shows how weak and feeble most people are now adays.
@@Greyreal. not sure if people used to fix air con in the old days lol.. but basically I was saying no safety precautions in china.
It’s shocking to hear this! and yes I didn’t know about this, thanks for sharing!
I enjoy watching Serpentza's videos immensely 😉
This reminds me of the NYC school system. Some districts have fantastic schools with modern facilities and technology, and others are run down and underfunded. But unless you live in the right district you can't send your kids to those great schools.
Awesome reports as usual, thank you so much.
Most of these people also had their land stolen
some of this stuffs actually happened in my country where people from different provinces & districts can't apply to a schools from different areas, especially if it's a prestigious schools.
Thank you for this Saturday morning video
This video had a nice and soft vibe, appreciate it
I'm not big on tourism content, however This and your other two channels have been really great for a first hand look into these far off places, and I thank you so much for your fair assessment of everything.
We aren't perfect but our ability to self criticize and correct while thinking of multiple points of view is our greatest strength!
For people unfamiliar with this, let me add another (personal) example of this that demonstrates the issue of coming from other provinces too, not just people from rural backgrounds (although it affects them far worse, as explained well here):
I had a student at my training centre in her early twenties whose family was originally from Sichuan, but she'd been born and brought up in Xinjiang and subsequently moved to Shanghai (I believe her older sister got a job here and she moved here to join her). Han Chinese and originally from a city as well. Problem? There wasn't a lot she could do. She wanted to study at university or college, but because of her 户口, she wasn't able to here. Thus she was essentially locked out of higher-level jobs and more skilled labour because she was never allowed to attain the qualifications for such work in the first place. Fortunately she did end up landing herself a job as a salesperson for a jewellery company that she quite likes and gets to work with nice colleagues, and she's trying to work on getting the opportunity to study, so it's not exactly a terrible story, but it's still very much an uphill struggle.
Bear in mind that when I say "Shanghai", I'm talking about the municipality, not the city itself, so being out in the more "rural" (as people here consider it to be because it's not in the city and this area used to be part of the neighbouring province back in the day), which makes it easier for people like her who are coming from other provinces and, in particular, the countryside. Even so, you see plenty of people here, just like those pictured in Winston's excellent video here, trying to eek out a living on the side of the road. It's often the elderly whose children were able to move here for a job and they've been carted along with them.
The point here is that the 户口 and issues of social standing will affect you regardless of your ethnic background, your home province, etc. if you're trying to move from one of the smaller/less developed provinces to the bigger ones and to the Tier 1 cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Chongqing, Tianjin and others. It's a very sorry state of affairs, especially when you consider that most of these cities rely on people from outside them to come and work here, and yet it's a real struggle unless you've got more money than common sense.
Thank you for such a truthful video
Thanks for this information. It's good to know these things:)
What this video is missing, unfortunately, is an actual explanation of the Hukou system. Which is a pity, as this would have been really interesting.
He tells us to go look up the system, or ask someone we know about it, but isn't that why I'm watching this video? I was expecting him to explain it to me, not tell me to do my own research about it. Its like watching a cooking show and the host tells you during the show to go figure out the recipe on your own
Agree ZERO research.
Because intelligent people shouldn't believe something just because someone said that and do their own research. He's completely right for saying that. But since you're not one of the intelligent people i guess that's a problem right?
Thanks for this! 👍✌️
Stay awesome Winston xo
The people in your video who are working on the drains and the A/C have little to no protection from falling or getting hurt. I feel some pity for the situation that they are in.
Life is cheap if there are many hands to replace losses. I'd compare the situation with Britain during the Industrial Revolution.
Yup. Its the same here in India. There are dozens of sanitation workers, AC Mechanics, Manual labourers and Firefighters dying every year due to lack of proper safety gear. Some of these workers arent even properly trained.
@@metalltitan Yep. Gilded Age 2.0.
Yeah. I would rather sweat like pig than have someone fix my air con like that, it's dangerously idiotic.
Man your uploading new videos pace with C-Milk is truly incredible I love how the other youtubers keep crying how hard it is to make good content. You guys are probably one of the hardest working youtubers.
Agreed, these guys are awesome for what they do, it's an honest insight into what's happening over in China. People who have good jobs and good money there will always discredit this but the people who struggle would always say otherwise ( if they could express themselves freely of course )
@@shq1723 Btw the best community also.
@@jeffreylebowski2440 agreed!
I stumbled upon your channel thanks to NFKRZ. Thanks for the vids
Keep educating the world about the reality of the PRC and keep awesome at the same time Winston!!! I watched all the adds though I can't support you financially at this moment ...yet...
In China it seems like most ironic place ever. They say it's one thing but the exact opposite is the truth lol also I don't want to call out all of em but I imagine many in cities snitch on each other to get higher up in that system which is all they know but still very inhuman thing to do
Most communist countries are like that.
of course they do. It's starting to happen here in north america. We call them Karens though as we are used to having a backbone and sticking up for ourselves, coming from a land where we are all EQUAL and there is NO CASTES, it's difficult to believe people allow themselves to be walked all over like this.... but if this is all you ever knew of life, i guess....
How can an entire nation be so phony and deceptive. Inhuman indeed.
Thanks for this. While my experience in China is far less immersive than your's is; I worked there since 2010 but remotely, only travelling to China every 6 months for face-to-face meetings and team updates, I did live in Shanghai for a year in 2019 full time. I'm a sociologist, so people and social systems and how/what can be observed are in a sense what I pay attention to. I noticed the disparities you touch on here, and I agree, there's a lot more to these issues and the efforts (so far failed) to reform them. The people of China deserve far better than they've been handed, I have no idea what the path to reform looks like but I hope it doesn't follow the old patterns.
These kinds of problems are everywhere... But, off-topic, can you write a little paragraph about people there, because there are so many misinformations about China and Chinese people.
enlightening, thank you.
Stay Awesome Agent 009, Stay Awesome! over and out
Thank you for bringing it up. I do remember this being discussed in one of my college courses and haven’t heard anyone mention it since then.
I was able to see this system when I visited factories in China. My previous employer used contractor factories in Shenzhen and Guangzhou. My current employer had company factories all over, but I was working with factories in Fujian. The workers came from all over China. It was mostly young women. They had giant dormitories around the factory where the laborers lived. Every few days the busses would roll in and out, with a mass exchange of workers. The expats I was there with would explain that they were all contract workers. The workers leaving were either going on leave to visit their family, or were at the end of the contract. It was explained to me that they had to go home at the end of the contract and they were not permitted to stay in the city.
In some of the big factory cities, the majority of people are actually migrant workers. Dongguan, for example has something like four to five times as many migrant laborers living in it as actual, hukou-holding residents.
@@Default78334 That is what I saw at the factories. The workers came from all over China and lived inside the dorms. They pretty much couldn't afford to go anywhere. The factories I've been to are usually out in giant corporate complexes away from the urban core. No way for the workers to afford a car to take them to within reach of public transit. So they pretty much spent their entire contract at the factory except a couple of trips to their home on holidays.
@@matthewbeasley7765 A similar thing happens in europe, companies use temporary agencies who advertise western job opportunities in poorer countries, provide travel and accommodation that is taken out of their paycheck, the accommodation is usually agency owned motels with multiple workers per room and at the end of the month they don't really have the money to get out of the agency relationship so they return home at the end of their contract. in rural agricultural work it gets very abusive because they do not know the local language and cannot easily access the police for help. If abuse is found the agency gets all the blame and their friends set up another one with the same staff.
Very interesting 💕🌷
thank you very much. It's fist time I hear about that
Never heard of the Hukou system but find it interesting. Back in early 2019, my wife and I were in a Guangzhou restaurant and waited on by a young girl. She took every chance she could to practice her terrible understanding of the English language on us. But we were amazed at how enthusiastic she was to learn. Asking how words were pronounced and how words were spelt, which she jotted down in her notepad. Turned out she was 22, still at college, and desperate to learn English. But she didn't know any 'foreigners' Being a pensioner with time on my hands and recently completed a TEFL course, I did offer to help her on WeChat if she wished. She was so grateful for the offer. Without going too much into it, we kept in contact when I got back to the UK and her English slowly improved. She came from a very poor rural background, eldest of 5 children and daughter of a Vietnamese woman who was sold to her father. He recently died after several years being incapacitated following a stroke. We did actually meet again late 2019 on our last visit to China. We met up in Nanning and took her to Beihai for 3 nights. Her first time in the sea. She had just finished college and was planning to go to Shenzhen to find work. So much I could write about her but I'll just say her life is on the up. She has been employed all the time she has been there (2nd job now), living in an apartment with her own bedroom and enjoying life. She doesn't have an inferiority complex because of her backgroung, just takes it in her stride. And what a change in her. She sent me 5 pics of herself today and boy has she changed. No longer the poor rural girl we took to Beihai - now a young, modern dressed, intelligent, beautiful woman. And she certainly doesn't live from hand to mouth - she takes great pride in confiding with me and showing me her bank statements. There are a lot of people I know in the UK who could learn money management from her. And she flew for the first time last year - across China to spend her vacation with an old schoolfriend. I won't ask her about the Hukou system because I stipulated from the outset that we do not discuss politics. Perhaps it's not such a problem nowadays for young rural people with an education.
this internal passport system originated in Soviet Union in 1930s, when they tried to keep collectivized farmers in the villages
Thank you Serpentza
Old school serpentZa. Best video in a while. Have you ever been waiting for a bullet train while the old ladies sweep the platforms with millet brooms?
Viet Nam used to had Hộ Khẩu, which is just how we pronounce Hùkou system.
But they kinda reform it last year.
Vn still has 3 generations check if you're to advance your career anywhere that's government related. Just to make sure your great great grandfather was not a democracy sympathizer aka with republic if south VN.
Last year only ?
Frankly, with even less justification than china, which faced drastic population movement, depopulation of rural area and over population of cities, at the start..
The fact that this was born around the time of the ill conceived great leap forward made it even worse. Thank god they had deng in power for decades, else many of such system wouldn't have been reformed.
Didn’t know about this 🤔 thank you for telling us ❤️
I've watched plenty of your videos and some by others but I never knew this was a thing
You are awesome. Drive on, brother.
I'll never miss a new serpentza video :)
2:19 He's collecting cooking oil floating in the sewer so that he can re-use it in his street food vendor operation.
Love that gutter oil. Little extra flavor
😱😱😱
nah hes exporting it
its mixed with the sewerage , must stink to high heaven , and be toxic as hell mixed with everything else that gets poured down the drain
At least it's other inconsiderate Han Chinese that get to consume it (hopefully).
I ventured from Smiths Falls to Stittsville to buy groceries at the FERNBANK Walmart. 💙
That AC repair looks scary. Great short topic video.
That gutter oil clip made me feel sick.
Care for some gutter soup? 🤢
Yeah that was disgusting... food is not safe in China. I wonder how much gutter oil I consumed while I lived there
Collecting gutter oil like it was nothing.
Anyone who would like to volunteer will win the big pride to try? Anyone?
I wonder where it comes from. And I also wonder if he is maybe a cleaner.
Great content as always !
Very, very sad...
God bless y'all!!
4:00 - Winston waiting for new content for his Liveleak account.
Love your video 🔥
hukou system very interesting , remember reading about it years ago.
Loved the video, thank you so much. Have a great weekend, and I look forward to your next video, as always
Good piece, thanks. Trying to get my girl out of there, where she's stuck being indigent in the cities.
Americans and Chinese like to point at racial discrimination in the US. This Hukou system seems like it is 10X worse. Even in the 1860's millions of African-Americans were able to move to cities, find housing and send kids to school. Do the Chinese view these people as a lower-caste? What do these people think of China.
hardly racial since they are Chinese, but reminds me of the caste system from India
Coming to a country near you.
Yes.
I hope not
Yes. It's only a matter of time before White people in America will be given the same treatment.
TKS from Portugal
Another great video Serpentza we learn something new everyday by watching you guys.
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Nice video mate. It reminds me of my ex wife who was born in a rural part of China. She really struggled to find a job in the city and all because of where she was born!
I was watching a Chinese drama, and they talked about how one guy was from out of the city trying to get a good job, and this girl shouldn't marry him because it could make life difficult. They didn't say exactly why... Just that it would be a challenge.
This video explains some things.
The shots of the city looked beautiful! The topic was really interesting, thank you!
Wow a new Serpentza video, glad to give it a view
That cast system sounds like the one in India where there are different groups also according to their status in life and one don't mix with the other.
Don't believe the BS from this guy. The hokou is far from India caste system. The US have similar system. If you don't live in a city or have permanent address in a city. You can't receive benefits from that city. Like if you a poor person going to the city to work. You can't receive any benefits because you are not a resident there. I don't see any difference from China.
@@maolo76 No living in the city doesn't stop you from getting a job, or doing anything else, so its not really the same.
Wtf ? The caste system people see during marriage.
Its not applied for job you dumber ..!
Obviously,you have to have a degree, job skills, money to put business.
If you don't know full then STFU.
Actually no indian caste system is similar to European and japanese caste system but it's not a class system. Nor it is a village/city system. You can freely move to city and work there or visit any village.
@@maolo76 india don't have these village/city system I think 🤔 USA still has problems it seems.
God bless you Mr
enjoying your videos i have been to China
Maybe go more in depth later?, I know kids can't just go to school in another city... You have to register? or live there so long?
Yeah I plan on doing something more in-depth in the future for sure
@@serpentza that would be awesome
One of the documentaries I watched years ago focused on this place called White Horse Village and one of the struggles the people had was to ensure that their children had their hukou updated to be a city registration so that they could get a free education and the other benefits. I tried to dig up that documentary and I found one reference to White Horse Village in a Daily Motion video but it was only around 20 minutes, I found another one called "The Fastest Changing Place on Earth", also from the BBC and it seemed to clock in at an hour but couldn't find anywhere to get a copy of it from. It was an interesting look at the rapid change that a simple village went through to becoming a city, large by Western standards but still small by Chinese standards.
Tranferring your hukou typically requires money, education, or both.
Hukou can be changed but it is very difficult. The easiest (but by far the most expensive method) is to by a property (a flat) in the city you move to. Which in cities like Shenzhen means paying approximately the same price for flats as for those in LONDON! Except on a salary 1/10 that of london. The other method (usually reserved for girls and young women only) is to marry someone - of course it's possible for men too but highly unlikely as girls and women tend to marry up. There are other ways too but you do not get a local citizenship (that's basically what it is) just by living there an X number of years.
That riding girl at the shop gate at 2:42 though lmfao 😁
You stay awesome too, Winston.
This is what they're doing in Australia now.
Living in a rural area means I can no longer have access to medical treatment in the cities.
After lock down, I am the size of a Chinese city :/
I thought this video was really fascinating. I knew that this system existed, and roughly what it entailed, but i had no idea that it has such an extensive impact on the people. I've asked a chinese friend of mine about his after watching this video, but it's still hard to comprehend from a european perspective, where this system seems almost comically absurd, since this would never go through in any western european country, where the value systems and cultural ideals are very much geared towards individual freedom, and where heritage (to a certain extent) doesn't really matter in the context of opportunities, and everyday life. trying to imagine not being able to rent a house in the UK, France or Germany because I'm from the wrong area is just ludicrous, and it's even harder to comprehend how chinese people let this happen in the first place.
It’s cuz there’s so much people in China. Some of what Winston said was half true half false. For example if a rural kid was smart and meets the scores required to get into the top high school in the city then he/she can. Of course there are also truths to what he said. If a parent decides to move cities with their child, then their child won’t be able to just enrol for any school there because they don’t have a native hukou. As a Chinese I hope this system will be improved later on but as of now we have so many people and let’s be honest China can’t keep up economically to allow for mass migration from other places to those big urban developed cities.
I like the idea that you can't just take the western system and fully introduce it in China now at once. There are some specific issues in China that have to be taken into account. Even if you have best intentions and want to achieve a betterment.
@@user-np3li4pl3i So why do they have those big empty cities?
@@bonniegirl5138 I honestly don’t know. I’m not a expert and I only say what I know but it could be because of variety of factors.
I love this kinda short video Winston, keep up the good work!
4:00 Mission Impossible Man
A lot of the household registration system is based off your parents, or grand parents actions .. For example, if they were accused of aiding the Japanese, being a capitalist, not supporting Mao zaodong thought, were a wealthy peasant, or just unlucky enough to have some cadres dislike you. You're life would be dramatically altered. Or if they happen to go to university, but were unable to find a career in your field during a certain campaign - where students were sent to the country side to learn from the peasants.. Super super sad.
@Serpentza heads up, TH-cam unsubscribed me from your channel
As far as I know, the advantage of having Hukou in a big city, like Beijing, is that your kids are much easier to get accepted into a good university, which is extremely important for Chinese families. That's why a Beijing Hukou is considered very valuable.
There are also other benefits, like free preschool education for those with Hukou. Also the Hukou in different cities are of different values, mostly depending on how economically prosperous the cities is.
Another thing, the farmer's Hukou in the suburb of big cities are currently very valuable; as by and large, they can get an lucrative compensation when their lands are taken by real estate businessmen.
Once again, you’ve explained the , to me , inexplicably odd things about China. My thanks for your sharing the knowledge!
Must say the same as Viet Nam, if you ever have chances to visti VN (Especially Sai Gon), I'm happly to be ur tour giude
they did a big tour of Vietnam about a year before covid hit. Check their ADVchina channel history for the vids.
System is taken from stalin era soviet union. Soviets taked this from tsar russian imperium times when peasants belonged to their masters like slaves and couldn't go freely farter as nearest city without written permission. And soviets has modifyied this system even more. But soviet propaganda (like today RT-"Russia Today") told everytime like in soviet song "I don't know any other country where man can breathe so freely".
But I thought the Communists got rid of the landlords and the bourgeoisie! Guess not.
when i was in China in 2010 I was told by my Beijing-born friends that countryside ppl not only can't rent, get job, etc, but when caught by police within big cities, face severe punishments. They said that basically when you are born in the countryside you are supposed to spend your whole life and die in your home village. The main reason, they explained, was to prevent information flow among masses (even if they are armed just with pitchforks and hammers, if there's 100 million of them, it would require tanks and airstrikes to resolve such a rebellion, not mentioning that it would mean circa -7% of their slave-workforce).
4:19 that's defining the phrase "Off the Wall"
I love your Sashas' look as she is going thru the turnstile. Sort of like "stick your camera where the sun don't shine". My ex hated it when I had my camera with me.
that's why she left you 🤣🤣🤣
Always informative! Keep your kids out of the LAUSD!
Are you kidding me with that HVAC guy? Holy crap!
Excellent content and production, you've captured and save some really good footage of life in China.