The African Greeks of Avato (Full Documentary)
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- GreekReporter.com - Hundreds of years ago a few Africans were brought to the region of Xanthi in Greece as slaves. Their Greek-African descendents that today mostly live in Avato, tell their story... or better what it has survived from it.
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As a greek I love them❤ didn't know about them before
I never knew of these people or their village. They talk, dress, and act like your typical Greek villagers
Those are thracian villages
@@art.f7973 Yes. And western thrace is part of Greece. So?
@@supermavro6072 my family is not from that region I am from Southern Greece. Also they are descendants of Sudanese slaves brought over by the Ottomans. The Turks refused to take them during the population exchange between the Christians and Muslims population in 1923 so they stayed in Greece.
@@gmellos dude u don't even know what you are talking about they been in Greece for thousands and thousands of years even before the black moorish took over stop lying pink guy
@@gmellos an also the the white turks was slaves by the moorish they took them from Greece to Africa jus like they took alot of invaders to Africa/Egypt facts plus the greece/Greeks was mixing in with the black moors black Israelites and other black religion facts do the real research before you talk shit.
My guess is that the Ottomans brought them here hundreds of years ago.
Also plenty of Turkish people have a significant amount of Greek DNA... Simply by conquering Anatolia.
alexandros1984 you are an ignorant blacks in the balkans since alexander the great it has nothing to do with ottomans learn your own history.
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yes, because the Ottomans expanded in Africa but also even before that.
The Greeks used to have strong navy and trade around those places.
These African people have lived in Greece for many centuries and if they have mixed up with Greeks, they are half Greeks.
The more the marrier!
But the found Greeks already living in Greece, just to make it clear.
I checked the records from the Ottoman empire in that region and the only slaves in Xanthi were Greek and Slavic tobacco forced laborers, there is no record of a Ottoman African slave trade in that region. I see that Ali Pasha in 1831 after the capture of Sudan send Sudanese troops into Xanthi to help fight the Greek rebels while he was in Africa. Xanthi was ruled by the Ottomans until 1912 and did not participate in the Christian-Muslim population exchange.
What you said is somewhat true. But different empires also took Black African slaves into Europe hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Roman empire was also known to take some Black African slaves to Italy and other places in Europe.
@ArabMusic16
The Greek geographer Strabo (1st century CE) records how an enormous slave trade resulted from the collapse of the Hellenic Seleucid Empire (100-63 BCE) due to the enormous amount of prisoners of war and the need of labor. Slaves in Rome were drawn from all over Europe and the Mediterranean, including Gaul, Hispania, Egypt, Syria, Germany, Britannia, the Balkans, Greece etc. Most slaves in Rome were actually indigenous Romans. African slaves in Roman times were almost non existent and fairly rare. (Source 1) The first African slave trade was created and managed by Jews and Arabs up until the Ottoman Empire. (Source 2) Romans and Byzantines used Slavs or Bulgar slaves acquired from war, prison..etc..
The Romans and Greeks never bought or sold African slaves in all of history, if they had a black African slave it was from pirate slave traders but like I said it was rare. (Source 3)
There was only 2 waves of Europeans - African Slave trading.
The First Atlantic system was the trade of enslaved Africans to, primarily, South American colonies of the Portuguese and Spanish empires.
The Second Atlantic system was the trade of enslaved Africans by mostly English, Portuguese, French and Dutch traders. The main destinations of this phase were the Caribbean colonies and Brazil, as European nations built up economically slave-dependent colonies in the New World (Source 4)
Source 1:
www.amazon.com/Storming-Heavens-Soldiers-Emperors-Civilians/dp/081333523X
Source 2:
www.amazon.com/Zamani-Survey-East-African-History/dp/0582602939
www.amazon.com/Last-Great-Muslim-Empires-History/dp/1558761128
sourcebooks.fordham.edu/halsall/med/lewis1.asp
cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/s/Slavery.htm
Source 3:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Byzantine_Empire
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome
Source 4:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade
As some of what you mentioned it correct. But your sources are from Wikipedia. Do you know Wikipedia is NOT a real source website to get real true information about ancient times, civilizations, empires, and history?...I am not sure, but you never know what happened in ancient times. But we do know that there were some black slaves that were taken to Europe by different empires. They are a small number but still existed.
@ArabMusic16
You do know that sources on wikipedia are cited right? You see the numbers next to paragraphs, you click on those and it brings you to the bottom, the bottom of the page is were all the sources that have been reviewed are. The pages listed are monitored, meaning they cannot be changed without review.
Please educate me with your sources.
Ok, whatever you say :-)....As for my sources, my sources don't come from random websites online. I actually study this type of history. I even have family members who study the history of Northern Middle Eastern people(my people) as well as Europeans and of course the Middle Eastern heritage of Europe.
They look a bit like people from the Eastern Africa, I will say Ethiopian people, I am from Ghana.
Charles bonty no he is from Greek
They are from soudan
They are or egyptian or both
East Africans are mixed!
charles means that they look like they descended from eastern Africa, We know they are in greece now.
Young man is awesome musician!
Black Greeks Patriot we loved them
They are Greeks, through and through ❤
They are Greek citizens for sure. Greek ethnicity I do not think so
@@JinnDante greeks carry the largest % of E1B1 genetics outside of Africa. africans and greeks are a "Cousin race" google "African admixture of greeks e1b1 "
They’re wayward Africans brought by Ottomans. They’re probably better off going to Turkey.
@@Onlyperiroblox5802 ancient Greeks
@@JinnDantethey’re older than the current greeks even older than the ancient greeks they’re of African ancestry that’s where humankind started
There are thousands of black Greek families, mainly mixed race from Ethiopia, many of them living in Athens today.
This is so fascinating
No subtitles?
Probably brought here as slaves by the ottomans
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They was ottomans mercenaries
@@art.f7973 thats right. we know that thanks to from historical reality, and not from their ahistoricity.
Greek 100%
Not even 0,000001%😂
I know
They were here way before you
You fucktards
25%
It looks so peaceful over there.
yex,that is because we do not treat them bad.
On the other hand, l see them complaining in this video, seems like they do separate themelves from us.
Who is the racist now, right??
@@pop-n-rock you should be happy they keep far away. The only bring destruction
Inside we are the same brothers
No we're not.
@@sillyname6808 are you an alien? So you have 2 hearts and 4 eyes? You are human just like the rest off the pathetic people on this planet.
You're a traitor to your people and ancestors
No we are not ur shameless u don't love ur identity and culture
Ottomans introduced all sorts of alien types into Greece but there was no admixture. i only wish the Franks or Venetians would have driven the Ottomans out of Greece by the 16th century to end this useless occupation that essentially set the mainland back by 500 years.
Alien types? What the hell these people are still human..
@@visioday1814 they intend foreign races inside greece not extraterrestrial
Θα συμφωνίσω απόλυτα φίλε
They are my neighbors. Good village's. Africans ware always in greece
Those are muslims with arabic scripts they belong to shemitic races have nothing to do with any greeks since there was thracians exstint under turkish occupation and ottomans mercenaries
@@art.f7973 From the time that they feel and selfidentified as Greeks and they have greek education, they are Greeks. Period! And yes, there are also muslim Greeks as well as buddhists, atheists etc.
@@PP-ht7kj greek education? The Muslim mercenaries of ottomans? What did you smoke?
Can i know the village please? ?am leaving in andros port
@@art.f7973 Thracians extinct dyrubg turkish occupation? Tell that to half of my family that is decentant from west n eastern (occupied) thrace. Those people marry Greek women, because they are all related to avoid incest. So they are also Greek, in blood!
I didn't know these guys were African at all until they said it!
yeah, they kinda looked Brazilian
Real Greeks
WAR....
well they are now
Και το τραγούδι 11:13;
😁 Άβατο Ξάνθης μια κοινότητα μαύρων.Στο ίδιο χωριό ζούμε είναι καλοί και προσωπικοί άνθρωποι.
Emine Emin kai egw zow me aftous tous anthropous. Oi xorianoi mou einai oloi
Emine ise akomi mesa ?
The kid is talented - I like the melody even though I do not understand the language.
Greeks what's the name of the song 10:54
It's "κανείς δεν είναι κανενός" it means "nobody belongs to nobody" if this make sence😂
Hahaha bro this one of the best foreign songs I've heard thanks for title
Starting to think there's something to the Dr. Yacub grafting theory. Supposedly it happened in this area.. Interesting
These guys poor ancestors were brought over by the Turks as Slaves when greece was under occupation for 400 years. When we had oir revolution I. 1821 we freed these people and asked them if they wanted to stay here and they did..
yeah
They weren't brought there as slaves but during the time when Ethiopians and Egypt were teaching and with them not as slaves.
@Lazy Greek Stereotype no history tells her lies as usual besides white folks been hiding our history from us forever to this day so history would have kept het dirty little secret.
@Lazy Greek Stereotype First how you doin same thing happening here same thing there just not as prevalent there of course it don't make sense to you because your on the opposite end of the research how the Greeks scholars admit to coming to africa/Egypt / Kemet to learn
@Lazy Greek Stereotype i hear you but explain how the greeks through alexander how they invaded and took over the throne of kemet eygpt is an greek word plus by placing the ptomelties on the throne the start of the european pharoas i believe somethings might be cool but lets be honest whats happening in america is happening to black people all over the world
@Lazy Greek Stereotype Ok so we the name calling mustve hit a nerve since the greeks show brotherly love to people of African descent Bakari Henderson young brother from the US traveling abroad got killec in greece last summer for taking a picture with a waitress at i seen the video of how they chased him and beat him to death, now back to Alexander what they did to the Eygptian priest when they wanted to learn about the hyroglyphs and to anoint them pharoah and they refused they them until they found some priest who would teach them hence forth greek pharoahs ptolemies see serapis one of the images they say is jesus look it up.hows that for stupidly said
@Lazy Greek Stereotype this a good conversation I'm glad to hear someone else point of view from other parts of the world it's amazing that most Greeks never met a black person here in the us see them all the time good information about who really killed Bakari researched it and your right it was foreigners slavs how is your personal experience with black people good I hope most Africans do mind their own business get in were they fit it lazy Greek you alright enjoyed the exchange of opinions I hope you did as well be good my friend hope to have more good conversations in the future.
Beyköyünden bende İzmit’ten selamlar :) Xanthi (Hüsnücan yok mu hüsnücan ) DJ black seviyoruz sizi
who is saying "white" and "black". The speakers or the translator? I doubt the speakers were using those words, including "African" .
MV M The speakers are actually using the words black and white to describe themselves.
MV M why would you doubt that?
MV M but they did though
They say lefkos which means white in Greek or mavros which means black
@@sowhat... This person if probably american and is getting offended
Δεν μπορω να καταλαβω για ποιον λογο κρατησαν τουρκικα ονοματα και εθιμα και δεν εξελληνιστηκαν;
Επειδή ήταν μούσουλμανοι και τους παράτησε η Ελλάδα. Τα τελευταία χρόνια ξυπνήσαμε αφού η Τουρκία διεκδικεί την Θράκη. Αλλά αυτοί η άνθρωποι ήταν πάντα στο έλεος τοιυ Θεού μόνο και μόνο γιατί ήταν μούσουλμανοι...
Στη Ξάνθη υπάρχουν εξισλαμισμένες Ελληνικές μειονότητες εκτός από την Τουρκική μειονότητα.
να τους εξελληνισουμε;;; τι λες ρε σοβαρα;;; δρομο απο την ελλας. δρομο.
I'm searching for Malawi and Greek hybrid people. Hard to find. Very rare.
10:30 he says why
Orthodox country keep it that way !!!!!!
Mavros
funny thing my mom was from Greece. never seen a black person till she moved to usa except on tv, so how did these black people go unnoticed to most greeks from Greece .
Blacks have lived in each and every country in the world and if they are untociced it is because there is no interest in that regard .They also do not represent a percentage of people that could attract interest.The wars in East Africa have led many Africans to flee that area and live in many countries in the world for example.So you might find Africans living in Greece since the early 90s and even before for those who went there to study and stayed.
My mum and dad said the same thing never seen a black or Asian until they went to Australia
Until the modern era blacks have not lived in every country in the world
Because they are from a remote village in the north-eastern part of Greece.
Any proof?
Remake with Subtitles
If you click the CC button in the upper right hand corner it turns on English subtitles :)
If they are African Greeks why is that boy that doesn't look African singing a turkish song called heart to heart Whilst playing on the drumbs?
because this video is hate propaganda from Turkey against Greece.
@@pop-n-rock yes because turks are mongols who mixed wirh africans to became meditteranean s infact he is mongoloid mix not pure ethiopian
Puerto Rican don't look like African American but they are still black we come in many shades of colors and the only race that can make all shades of people
lf they feel like Greeks or if they are half Greeks mixed with Greeks, we like that!
The more the marrier!
Οι ιταλοι πηγαν στην αιθιοπια οχι εμεις και στην λιβυη αυτα τα dna ειναι απο κοσμο που πηγε στην νοτιο αφρικη νελσον μαντελα κλπ εμεις πηγαμε? Αυτοι που πηγαν πηγαν σαν μεταναστες οχι αποικιοκρατικα οπως γερμανοι αγγλοι κλπ αυτοι εχουν σχεση με το μουχαμαντ και τους μουσλιμ δεν ειναι ουτε καν αιθιοπας
Men real greeks never mixed with them exept those who was kindnapped by balcans etc they was not neither there at the ottomans time they return later only stupid can believe this exept there they went many traders portuguese genovese latins egyptians etc there live thracians not the today ones people like pomaks last remain and some others into bulgaria before bulgars etc those have to do with mohamad and muslims moors etc
Shut up traitor
Avato leme!!to xorio mou einai agapw olous
What is it like over there? I am an East African(Somali) trying to learn Greek(beautiful language). I am interested in learning the Greek accent/dialect spoken there. What is it called? Do people over there identify as Greek or African? is the whole village Muslim? Is Avato the only village which has east African descended inhabitants? ευχαριστώ
I am Greek and I had no idea about this village... it is really impressing
the boy is a badass with the drum
Yes. All of this earth was Black until groups coming from far east Europe (Caucus mountains) ravaged the world. You can research it yourself. The European race of today comes from the Caucus people, but the Caucus people were not the original people. They, in fact, invaded the original Europeans' homeland. You can research it yourself. Why do you think today European languages and culture are so similar? The original Europeans had distinct tribes and did not mix with one another. The new Europeans heavily mixed and wanted to rule each other.
@@polmenakos These Greeks weren't there since ancient times but Greek Herodotus mentioned Aethiopians a lot in his mythic stories as well as Homer. However 600 years is a long time to be in Greece, so I would say they are Greeks...the same way that if a Greek family has lived in the U.S.A. for over 50 years then they are Americans.
@@polmenakos Aethiopians was to the term for "burnt face people" not the country besides the Ethiopian Empire was called Aksum during ancient times.
@@polmenakos this guy talking ancestry isn't from Gambia but Sudan more than likely from the Ottoman Empire that enslaved many groups including Greeks for centuries.
@@polmenakos There is the very famous story about the battle of Troy which is a mythic story but the God, Zeus, was such a fan of the Aethiopian, Mennon, that he told the other gods not to interfere when the epic battle between Mennon and Achilles eventually battles later increasing their size as Giants so everyone could see. There wasn't an Africa back then only Egypt, Lybia and everyone else were called Aethiopians. There were Garamente people as well but they were early Tuaregs. So your thought is that Greeks could move to Africa but those on the African continent couldn't move to Greece in ancient times?
@@polmenakos no if a historian talks of an American what in your opinion would that American look like?
yasa ertal dokturuyon valla!!
Also I'm sick and tired of the history stealing things online it's called bullshit. How come Greek is not related to any African Lang or DNA from shaft graves or from Crete. Also why people in Africa besides Egypt in ancient times never made metal.
Because aegypt was a place khemet another
In the ancient times in nord africa live berbers egyptian s was not blacks ethiopians are not blacks africans they dont have negroud future noses etc people mix aegypt with khemet mix either libyans with africans mix moors who come from spain with meditteraneans etc etc meditteranean part of nord africa was for thousand years people who have little to do with those subsaharian tribes who was to the other part of river nile and mount atlas thats why they look different like noses etc today nord africans are shemites and arabs with only a minority of kopts and egyptian people this was before the varius invasions pure africans comes from the west part of africa and the subsaharian tribes arrived later there so no is not correct and this man have nothing to do with any ethiopian or somalian greeks never comes to any africa and for sure are not subdaharians neither crete have nothing to do with any africans the bulls are not african uses levantines are not greeks the gennetic of sardinia cant became greek gennetic since greeks went south they dont come from south second dont mix thracian tribes or balcan for greek gennetic
Because myceneans was not subsaharians neither minoics because they mix greek people with balcan gennetic because they mix the invaders for greek gennetic because reperts have nothing to do with syrophoinician because they mix the traders around for greek gennetic because they dont study mycenean and minoic civilizations and then mix the phoinician s the cananeans the moors or other people who trading around for greeks they mix the invaders for greeks and in ancient time crete was united with south greece and the islands was created after the big exsplosion of aegean never exist such ancient greek subsaharian sinse was not either connect with africa the only place who had subsaharian dna is sardegna and the part of albanians since they was sardinian subsaharian tribes now if some one brought them there dont mean are greeks and a specification those are haplogroups who was in south italy sardinia etc this is a research doesnt mean that this is the gennetic of greeks greeks went south dont come from south people in the islands were was under varius invaders had population s who brought the pirates the crusaders the ottomans etc doesnt mean if those people are under greeks are from greek blood or only people who work for greeks is simple because islands was under venetian who brought people there under crusaders if someone use balcan people turks etc doent mean greeks was turks the turkish slavetraders in balcan? And this is easy
Because jews are still fucking us over
The Yoruba people of West Africa and the people from the Nokk Kingdom from ancient times metal artwork is very famous. Ironworking began at the same time that the Turks started.
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This is Amazing to me! They are such wonderful people. They have been in Greece for many years and the government should support them. If they speak Greek, then they are Greek!
Greeks are meditteranean you know what means? That are belong to this place the turks no because they mix with african but they are not meditteranean who means not subsaharians exept ancient nord africans was not negroid race he is a mud mix from mongoloids and afrasiatics probably turcik dont belong to balcan and greek populations only because invade there they live thracians and other people he is not neither a real ethiopian those are mix of afrasiatic brought there from ottomans
No, that mindset will get the actual greeks replaced. Being greek means being a descendant of greeks. A greek born in italy is a greek still, a black born in greece is an invader
@@algonzalez6853 why a greek born in Italy is not an invader? Please explain.
@@PP-ht7kj because they're both aryans. But if they moved in mass it would be an invasion too
@@algonzalez6853 HAHAHAHA!!!! Did you know that Italians and Greeks were very much discriminated in the 1900 U.S.A....some even where lynched because of the color their skin. Italians and Greeks didn't get "White" status until the 1920s/30s in the United States. Real Aryans are from India.
that girl is not black foh
Tatrice Flowers mixed black and Greek
Tatrice Flowers she is black
And they will stop being black altogether with every new generation if they keep mixing with Greeks. However, this will take a long time. I mean they've been around for 200 years at least and most of them still look black.
@@Kanemarkss NO NO !!!!! She is Gypsie, mix with "white" !!!
@@xhosatribe2525 She is Gypsie !!!!!!!! Africans !!!! do not make you more important than you are
Yeah,well this country just wasn't meant to go far.
Yes it is true ,thede ste the real greeks.
I don't care what skin Color they have. It shouldnt even be a topic. They are 100% greeks. Some are mixed with ethnical greeks, they speak greek, they live in greece. If they love their country they are greek. As a greek i dont care about skin color. Everyone who identifies as greek and has greek values is greek.
Real greek 😂😂😂😂
@@SexManNordin did you know that actaully Greek is African ,not the other way around .
@@speach9537 greek is not African neither arfrican is greek both are different races and cultures ,but if you living in greece you are considered greek and if you living in Africa u are considered african thats nationality not dna
@@user-qn7qz3dp9m no it is a mixture highly influenced by Africans, roots are African
@@speach9537 The DNA of the people in Europe the Middle East and North Africa are from the Neolithic farmers that came from the Middle East around 12000 years ago, and also In Europe the northern Middle East got the migration of the western steppe herders which are ancestral of the people who spoke the indo-european languages, so the people in Europe and middle east and north Africa has developed from the migration of people that involved in the middle east and some from southern Russia principally the Europeans, those from the middle east involved to have olive skin to light skin, and dark to brown hair and the hair texture was from the curly and wavy to straight, and those from southern russia developed blond hair and red hair and to light skin to very white pale skin, and also they had wavy to curly hair to straight hair, so those people developed in Eurasia from since at least 40000 years ago from people indeed came from Africa, but people need to understand that north africans are descedents from groups that i named early because they developed the traits that they have in eurasia and then they migrated to north africa, so people who are pure africans without descendence of humans who left it africa are only sub saharan africans, all humans are descedents of people that involded in africa but those who are descendents from those who left africa have changed physically
This proves that the entire Greek civilization including the entire WESTERN CIVILIZATION originated in MOTHER AFRICA!!!! ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
We wuz everything
brotha shut the hell up, these people is descendants of slaves just like black americans, these ain't indigenous people
Those are descendants of Ottoman african slaves that remained in Greece after its liberation from the Ottomans and mixed with Greeks . And they all live in that tiny village. Think before you post about things you know nothing about, you idiot.
So just because you see African/greek mixed people, you think the entire population of Greece was black? Y’all are truly slow so slow and simple minded. These people are mixed and represent 1% of Greece. Greeks are not African or black unless they are mixed with African. This is very simple
"When something cannot be cleaned with soap, then it will be cleaned through generations."
this broke my heart 💔
Navya Jain mine too. Do you think that was racist?
Just like how your autistic comment broke my brain.
no one treats them bad there
stop being a victim of propaganda videos.
No one tried to hurt them or even get them out of there.
@@pop-n-rock Eh, Golden Dawn members probably did, you know how they roll.
If only they took a dna test, went back home and stopped being so melodramatic 😒
I know this is not the main point of this video, but that guy needs to start brushing his teeth.
😂2:30 How far back? 😂 You from Sudan. I hear about Malawi. I guess you have cousins that far in geography also😂
They are Nigerians Greeks
Moors of the Balkan
Ottomans-Arabs were known for their racism towards black people. They brought these people in Greece. Greeks never ever were racists towards the Numidians or the Ethiopians (who considered as cousins btw). We know since the ancient times that Ethiopians have identical DNA to us Greeks and to Basques. We are refugees from Atlantis.
White people like Dutch, English, Germans etc were not racists towards black people. This hatred came with the arabs and jews out of inferiority complex, they had to transfer their rage to someone else.
Wardog if Ethiopians had identical DNA to Greeks and Basques then would they not look identical as well?
No you are not racist. You are the originators of 20th century Genocide.
I think you are using the wrong word. The christians revolted against the Ottomans not the other way round.
So if a people, try and to regain their freedom it's OK to commit Genocide. WOW!!!!!!!!!!
Rula. Does the fact that others killed indigenous people exonerate the Turks from the Armenian Genocide? I think not.
ειμαι απογονος του Δημοκριτου πριν γινει η Ελλαδα...χααχχαχα πεθανα ρε χααχχαχαχα καλο βιντεο για προπαγανδα μπραβο σας...απ ολα εχουμε γιατι οχι
Αυτους τους εχουν για να λενε οτι ειμαστε αιθιοπες να αδειασουν την ελλαδα γιατι οι τουρτσικ λενε οτι ανηκουν αυτοι εδω
Αμα περνουν ελληνιδες για γυναικες γιατι να μην ειναι απογονοι και ελληνων;
Haplogroup Ev13 which is 40% of the Greeks
Males carry in their Y-dna is Originally a Somalid Haplogroup.
Just because Greeks have white features today. Doesnt mean they are no more related to Their Kushitic somalid ancestry which is Hametic
African in Origin.
Period.
Are you somali? While somalis and greeks (and others in the horn of africa)do share haplo group, if you look at a haplogroup map you will see that it is only a few. It seems to have been shared by those who participated in trade between the horn of africa, upper and lower egypt and greece. watch this video: th-cam.com/video/_JMWb0OIEqQ/w-d-xo.html
Samatar Mohamed no I am a Turk from Turkey my Haplogroup is J2a2a which i believe is From Shem Lineage
@@Batyrai Well that's interesting, however it makes sense. The ottoman empire was a diverse place. What do you think of Turkish nationalists who believe that Turks are 100% Central Asian? There seems to be a lot online, however I think most people in general are moderates.
Samatar Mohamed well. , The Turkmens from Turkmenistan where Supposedly are our Ancestors came from, were already highly mixed. İf you look st Turkmen Automasal Turkic Root avarage. They have already high mixture of West and South Central Asian Dna. The only difference is that we Anatolian Turks have 5-20% Mongoloid Automasal genes depending on which part of Turkey we live. I have Around 9% central Asian Roots. Turkmens from Central Asia on the other Hand Have 20-30% mongoloid automasal Genes. That explains why we are not 100% mongoloid in appearence. But the Fact that Anatolian Turks have central asian Roots is a Fact.
Kurds Laz and aswell as greeks in Turkey have almost no Central asian Admixture. Here comparrisson between Turk turkmen and native anatolians.
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Ev13 is not greek dont exist somalid greeks never existed en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_admixture_in_Europe
If you know I'm full Greek this people are cald Gyspes
You idiot!
they are not gypsies, they are African brought in Greece long time ago.
They feel like Greeks, but their DNA is African, even maybe half Greek.
@@pop-n-rock για να εχεις γρικ dna οπως λες θα πρεπει να εχεις συγκεκριμενα χαρακτηριστικα κρανιοκεφαλη κλπ το να ζεις στην ελλαδα δεν σημαινει οτι εισαι γκρικ ακομα ψαχνουν απο που ερχεται ο καθενας
Αφρασιατες με μογκρελοειδη μιξ ειναι καμμια σχεση εξαρταται ποιους εννοεις γρικς αν αναμειχτηκες με πραγματικους η μονο με χριστιανους γιατι εχει ενα τοννο τουρκογυφτους χριστιανους εδω
@@art.f7973 Έχεις μετρήσει την κεφάλα σου και σου βγάζει ότι είσαι απόγονος του Περικλή; Βλακάκο
He's not Greek Greek don't be something your not !!!!!!
Well his family has lived in Greece for 100s of years. They are decedents of slaves brought over by the Turks. They have no place to go and they are a patriotic as any other Greek. Look at them they dress and act like Greeks. NOT like the newer African immigrants. Like it or not they are part of Greece and thus are Greek
Actually, looking at ancient Greeks texts you will see that by definition, a native is somebody who is of the same ethnic and racial background, which allows for the system of filía to be established and then the society works. People say that society and the way democracy works is based off ancient Greek politics, yet people ignore this aspect. :D Thus, according to the ancient Greeks, who have shaped the nation, he is not and never will be fully Greek.
They are Greek in the paper, but not the blood. I highly doubt he was one of the Ancient Greeks who have fought in the countless wars or contributed to the cultural aspect.
Like it or not, your race and ethnicity determine who you are and not where you were born. They only claim they are Greeks because they are aware that their own nations have few achievements. "Dress and act like", so you are saying that any person that does the same may pass off as Greek? Your logic is lost. You are using shallow points of argument which try to appeal to the emotions of a person rather than their cognitive track of thought.
Cathy Demosthenous really, they lived there for a pretty long time, and adopted alot from greeks, only difference is the looks. If looks bother you in this case, then you must be very narrow minded.
gmellos the ottomans didn't bring them to balkans blacks in the balkans since alexander the great it has nothing to do with ottomans learn your own history.
Cathy Demosthenous You're an idiot, I'm a black American whose great grandfather was English and Greek, I took a DNA test and it confirmed it but that just makes me only black right you racist jerk of a woman.
First off all races comes from blacks!!!
No this is not true exist other races who are not blacks
Art .f African was first human and oldest known lineage started in Africa. The oldest human was from Africa.
I guess blacks never evolved
@@visioday1814 and those were monkeylike hominids, but i guess you're trying to say something...
East africans in greece. Whats the point of this video? Claiming that they are the original greek now?
Rita Maria Well if George Micheal could be British and Jennifer Anniston US-American why shouldn't these people not have a right to be Greeks? The only logical counter-argument could be racism!
becouse they have no greek blood
+Maseho Art You are idiotic. You are literally using the worst comparison ever. The Americans are not a race or ethnicity, they are a nationality. Literally anyone can be American because it is a settler nation, anyone who is born there can be a native because most of the natives have been killed off and the land is now kept by the settlers that exapnd. Greece on the other hand has its natives, which are European whites and shaped their own history. You talk about a "logical counter-argument", but your point is moronic and lacks any sort of coherency, you fool. :D
+tart70 Greeks are part of the European cluster.
Greeks are not pure white Europeans the proper Greeks were educated in Egypt by the ancient Egyptians and have african roots they left Egypt and began their first helenic civilisation on the Greek island of crete and that culture spread throughout what is today modern day Greece
To be honest the ancient Greeks had no interest in western Europe or northern Europe the ancient Greeks sore them as barbarians and always looked to Egypt and the African continent not Europe the reason there are so many white Greeks today is because of thousands of years intermixing whilst spreading helenic civilisations in the eastern Mediterranean and northern Europe the only fairer skinned like olivey skinned complexion Greeks were the Dorians and they are helenics from south west Asia
Rita Maria the Video is literally just showing that there’s an African community somewhere in greece, whats your point??
Κατευθείαν απο τα αρχιδια του Αριστοτελη χαχαχα
Μογκρελοειδη απο τον καυκασο αναμειγνενα με υποσαχαριους οπως οι ποντιοι μικροκεφαλοι οτι μικροκεφαλο ξανθο επισης δεν εχει σχεση αυτος δεν ειναι ουτε καν αιθιοπας μεσα στην ευρωπη εχουν παρει οτι πιο καθαρο γεννετικα και εδω μεσα πετανε γυφτους ανατολικο μπλοκ κσι κατι τριχωτους εχει γεμισει ο τοπος σαν αρκουδες που κλεβουν μαυροπουκαμισαδες και κατι τσιγγανοισπανους καταστρεψανε την ελλαδα
@@art.f7973 Έλα οκ πες το μην ντρέπεσαι. Είσαι ναζί.
@@PP-ht7kj οποιος ασχολειτε με μουσλιμναζι και χαζαροσλαβομπολσεβικους ειναι ηλιθιος διοτι ηταν οι ιδιοι διαιρει και βασιλευε ονομαζεται το παιχνιδι την παρελαση των ναζι και των μπολσεβικων την εχεις δει? Ψαξτη
@@art.f7973 τι λες ρε πρεζακλα; Ούτε ο ίδιος δε καταλαβαίνεις τι γράφεις ρε αμορφωτε μισάνθρωπε. Όρθιε πίθηκα
@@PP-ht7kj δοξα τον θεο ποτε δεν εθιστηκα στα ναρκωτικα ειναι για διανοητικα καθυστερημενους ανασφαλεις μπαχαλακηδες προβατα που ακολουθουν τα διαφορα κοπαδια παιδια του μπαμπα που πληττουν κλπ οχετο μου προκαλουν οικτο Οι πρεζακηδες και οι ναρκομαφιες που χουν φωλιασει εδω με ενοχλουν αφανταστα και οι ψευτομαγκες με τα πιστολια στυλ καλαβρεζικης μαφιας και μπραβων αυτη η κουλτουρα με ενοχλει ..οπως και αυτοι που διαιρουν τον απλο κοσμο σε αριστερα δεξια η θεωρουν τους εαυτους τους υπερανω θεων νομων και δικαιοσυνης και νομιζουν ειναι οι ελληνες προσπαθωντας να μας πλασαρουν για υποσαχαριους
Real greek ,not like those turks nowadays plagiarising that identity.
I think there are about 90,000 Turks in Greece in fact
@rafaellagaribaldi9391 Turk is borrowing from French language in 10th c for mixture of people converted into Islam in N.Iran .
Those people that claim are greeks ( not a single genuine map with Greece on it before 1829 ) are same mixture of people as Turkish .
@@user-RedPirateTerrorist No thats not possible. Genetically Greeks cluster closely with Tuscans, Abruzzo Italians and Sicilians. In fact the genetic distance between Greeks and Tuscans is the smallest in the FST table at -0.0001 FST. the genetic distance between Greeks and Turks is massive. Before 1828 Greece was like all Balkan countries part of the Ottoman Empire, Before 1453 Greece ws known as the IMPERIUM GRAECORUM (Empire of the Greeks)
@@user-RedPirateTerrorist No thats not possible. Genetically Greeks cluster closely with Tuscans, Abruzzo Italians and Sicilians. In fact the genetic distance between Greeks and Tuscans is the smallest in the FST table at -0.0001 FST. the genetic distance between Greeks and Turks is massive. Before 1828 Greece like most Balkan countries was part of the Ottoman Empire. Before Ottoman conquest Greece was known as the IMPERIUM GRAECORUM (Empire of the Greeks) or Byzantine Empire.
@@user-RedPirateTerrorist No thats not possible. Genetically Greeks cluster closely with Tuscans, Abruzzo Italians and Sicilians. In fact the genetic distance between Greeks and Tuscans is the smallest in the FST table at -0.0001 FST. the genetic distance between Greeks and Turks is massive. Before 1828 Greece was like all Balkan countries part of the Ottoman Empire. Before Ottoman conquest in 1453 Greece was known as the IMPERIUM GRAECORUM (Empire of the Greeks) also known as the Byzantine Empire.
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The language definitely sound like African language
Charles bonty it's Greek hillbilly language hahaha
? Greek language sounds like African language?
These people come to Greece with the ottoman empire like oppressors of the Christians like Isis do in Iraq and syria ..these people is the dark side of the Greece
London Power so is your mother
Bullish...they did not come as invaders. They were deported after the abolition of slavery in the Ottoman Empire! First shipped to Crete...the Afro-Greeks of Avato are very well documented, but almost extinct...
London Power blacks in the balkans since alexander the great you have no idea what you are talking about moron it has nothing to do with ottomans
Dislikes are from all the racists in greece
mikerupp17 Greece is not the only country that's rascist-its all over the world so get your facts right idiot !!!
Greeks give you everybody in the world greek cultures...dont be disgraceful racist against greek people...
how do you know? Do you have a crystal ball?
did i say that ? I am Greek from the island of Euboea, so your the one who should get your facts straight . Nobody has any reason to dislike these people living in that humble village other than the racists.....So if you have any other reason to dislike them other than them being of a different skin color , enlighten me to those reasons if not be quiet.
These people did nothing to you , and i cant be disrespectful toward my own people lol....The history of Greece and everything we've given to the world has NOTHING to do with being racist TODAY . I expect more from my own fucking blood , we gave the world most of what it knows ..we shouldn't be the racist ignorant ones, Open your eyes.
Goes to show Hebrew Israelites are dwelling in all four corners of the world. God bless the Hebrew Isrealites
Being a greek is in the mind, i know some full blood greeks that arent worthy of being greek
Brothers Football Club very true.
actually, we are very proud if these people feel like Greek, the more the marrier!
About their descent, ofcourse it is African but we do not mind at all,0
Tarded thinking that will get the greeks replaced
@@pop-n-rock disgusting traitor
The sad truth is this guy is obviously mixed African and Greek but because he is black no one wants them in Greece but if he were white and mixed its fine.
You lot love white people so much.
@@orangeorororange675 Come again?????
@@carlanderson2468 why do black people insist on being accepted by white people so much even in history. It's a sick love affair and yes they do love white people. They would harm their own first than a white racist.
@@orangeorororange675 And where did you get this idea from, explain because me as a black man all my friends and I give a rat's ass what you or any white person thinks.
We as black people fight to be accepted as minorities in a majority white country. The majority create the laws that in the beginning went against us.
The world is more racist towards blacks than any other race look it up.
@@carlanderson2468 give us a break black people don't like them selves either and name call each other all day every day.
How about are racist to wards back because they don't want to be around them but you lot don't want to here it, you can't leave people alone either. You lot are just as bad to with your racism, in Africa you don't want white people there look what's happening in South Africa and Zimbabwe and also you kicked the Indians out of Uganda and you talk about Greeks not accepting blacks, why should they. Every where white people in Europe are you guys want some type of acceptance and scream racism in the very country their in, even in Poland. You love white people and I think you do care what they say and think.
they look africans with greek characteristics in theyr face
That's because they are mixed race people who mixed with Greeks.
Tony Soza White South Africans look Europeans
Xhosa Tribe what does that gotta do with anything?
Xhosa Tribe whites in south Afrika are white not Afrakan fucking mug
@@acemendeceskumbukumbu5327 African and Afrikaans is nothing but racist word play.
και τι έγινε ? οτι ειναι νεγρος? αϊντε να γαμηθειτε αμερικανοι
Οχι αλλα δεν μπορεις να πλασαρεις για ελληνες τους κουσιτες που εχουν σχεση με ιταλους και καμμια με ελληνες ειδες κανεναν αρχαιο ελληνα να μοιαζει με τον νελσον μαντελα και τις υποσαχαριες φυλες της σαρδηνιας? Πατε καλα ολοκληρο αρχαιο πολιτισμο με τα αφροασιατικα νεαντερνταλ της ευρασιας που δεν ειναι ουτε καν αιθιοπες και τους κουσιτες και τους μουρς τις γηγενεις φυλες της νοτιο ιταλιας που φερανε εδω τους πλασαρεται για γηγενεις της ελλαδος και μετα λενε ειμαστε αιθιοπες να γυρισουμε στην αιθιοπια ποιος εφερε εδω μεσα ολους αυτους και τους τουρκους οι αρχαιοι κατεβηκαν στην κατω ιταλια δεν ηρθαν απο εκει και τα περισσοτερα ουτε καν ανηκουν σε εμας
@@art.f7973 Έχεις ψάξει το δέντρο σου από την κλασική Ελλάδα; Είσαι τόσο καθαρόαιμο;
@@PP-ht7kj πρωτιστως αυτο το ερωτημα σε εσενα πρεπει να το θεσεις, αλλα ναι ρε μακαρθιστη ακομα και τα ερωτηματα που θετετε θα ειναι ο ορισμος του συστημικου δηλαδη. καταλαβες ρε καρπαζοεισπρακτορακι και δυτικοβδελυροπαρασιτακι;;;
Οτι βλακεία σας πουνε, Ελληνες, το πιστεύετε...Απ Αφρικη ηρθαν κ λενε οτι ζουσαν Ελλαδα ,αιωνες...
Τα παπαδαρια φταινε τους πλασαρουν για αρχαιους ελληνες οταν εκει ηταν ιταλοι οι ιταλοι γιναν ολοι λευκοι και εμεις υποσαχαριοι ο μαντσινι ηταν ιταλος και το dna το πλασαρουν για ελληνικο και αυτοι ολοι οι ξανθοι μικροκεφαλοι ποντιοι ειναι υποσαχαριοι και δεν εχουν καμμια σχεση με εμας αλλοιωνουν την γεννετικη μας
PROPAGANDA .WARNING PROPAGANDA.BULLSHIT
These are the real Greek. The ones in balkans are assimilated Albanians, vlach,slavs etc.
These were remanants of African slaves brought by the Ottomans and forgotten in Greece
They look greek to me not african lol
Have you ever seen a greek person dude?Seriously be honest.
everyone wants to be Greek, that s why
@@supermavro6072 at least attempt to be a better troll
@@supermavro6072 if you think your average Greek looks like any other African then you've obviously never stepped foot in Greece let alone met any actual Greeks. So, like I said at least attempt to be a better troll.
Δεν υπαρχει ελληνας μαυρος
Σκασε
Σε παρακαλώ, σκάσε. Είσαι ξεκάθαρα ηλίθιος.
Actually greeks are mixture of africans and semitics ,rest are just converts .
ακριβως. ειναι πασιφανες αυτο, αλλα οι νεοταξιτες νομιζουν οτι θα πετυχουν αυτο που δεν εχουν πετυχει εδω και 700 χρονια. τελικος και κυριολεκτικος Ο αφανισμος των βαρβαρων επεται. ΕΛΛΑΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ.
@@Greg-cf4mm ΑΝΤΕ ΓΑΜΗΣΟΥ ΡΕ ΜΗΔΕΝΙΚΟ ΤΙΠΟΤΑΚΟΣΚΟΥΠΙΔΑΡΑ
They're not greeks
Black Greeks were the first Europeans
Γιατί μένουν στο Ελλάδα μας!!!!!
@maria nikolaou min dinete simasia, troll einai
oute swsta elinika den milaei, apla vazei fytilia
@@udlauchstmacshauchny2521 εδω πεταξανε κατι κουσιτικα dna μεσα και κατι υποσαχαριους της σαρδηνιας τα πλασαρουν για ελληνικα οι αρχαιοι ελληνες μοιαζαν με τον μαντελα οι μικροκεφαλοι υποσαχαριοι κατι μογκρελοειδη κατι τιυρκογυφτα και οι τσιγγανογυφτοι το dna μεσα στην ελλαδα ειναι εγγυς ανατολη ποιος τους εφερε μεσα στην ελλαδα μαζι με κατι μαγκρεμπινους που πλασαρουν τους μηκυναιους για μπερμπερους δευτερον αφρασιατικα απο τα βαλκανια τα πεταξαν στην πελλοπονησο τι σχεση εχουν οι αθηναιοι με τον βοναπαρτη και τον μουχαμαντ
@@art.f7973 Τι πίνεις ρε ψεκασμένε αυστραλοπίθηκε;;
@@PP-ht7kj ρε μλκ καρπαζοεισπρακτορακι και δυτικοβδελυροπαρασιτακι. αυτα που κανεις και κανετε εσεις μην τα απευθυνεις αλλου ρε μακαρθιστη μηδενακο νδουλοτιποτακο παρασιτο αγγλοσαξονικε ελληνοφωνε τραβα ρε γαμω την αμεαρικη σου ρε αλλοδαπο σκουπιδαριο που εχεις και το θρασος ρε σκουπιδοπαρασιτοδιποδακι να εχεις και δημοσιο λογο ΦασιστοΙμπεριαλιστη τρισηλιθιε.
greeks are pure black nation :D
İsmail Çelik True. The original greek were even black before white and the Greeks aren’t even white.
Everlasting Θ. I am Greek and you’re an uncultured, uneducated idiot who’s only a disgrace to Greece. Don’t identify as Greek we don’t want you. Greeks are open minded and love all ethnicities and colour, we accept and love everyone. Take ur racist ass somewhere else. Stupid woman.
Albanians are gpss
El Mutilator no one claims that first of all. All people are from Africa not just Greeks. And no insulting is never the solution especially if it’s racist comments that are false and disgusting
the Turks are the most mixed up race in the world
The aboriginal greeks
aboriginal Greeks were the Pelasgians (e.g Minoans). They originated in Asia Minor (Lydia and Caria) 10,000 years ago before the arrival of the proto-Greeks
@@rafaellagaribaldi9391 they were black
Τη τραγουδια λετε δεν τραγουδατε ελληνικα
Στα Τουρκικά τραγουδάνε. Οι περισσότεροι μουσουλμάνοι πηγαίνουν σε μειονοτικά σχολεία και μαθαίνουν και τις δύο γλώσσες όμως στα χωριά μιλάνε σχεδόν αποκλειστικά Τουρκικά.