I'm an OKC fan. When SGA was injured and Giddey was able to take the lead and play his natural game his stats were really good. If you allow him to play this way he will get even better and be a valuable asset to you. So don't worry about the trade you got a great deal.
I’m in the minority of people who think that this trade was a win win, Bulls need a rebuild and AC is a great fit. The bulls got younger and a higher ceiling player.
Lol they're different players. Giddey couldn't keep up on a Championship level team. Caruso won a Championship his rookie season and played a major role in his team's success including throughout the playoffs and the Finals. Figure it out😏Caruso may have a ring with Okc doing what Giddey can't. He's certainly closer on Okc than Giddey is in Chicago.
@@santiagoskywalkerBetter than Ac but unplayable during the playoffs. And I actually watched to see this dude play. He was messing up spacing, slowing the pace down to slow and getting the 'russell Westbrook treatment'.
@@jdh9676 OKC's main problem was they wanted Giddey to develop his shooting too quickly but did not give him the ball enough. OKC went too much to SGA that it even stunted only Giddey but Chet and JW too. I won't be surprised if JW leaves after his rookie deal.
no doubt he could (keyword could). What if he doesn't? The sentiment is not Giddey himself. It's Why it's just GIDDEY? If he doesn't improve we just traded away our best asset for that, BUT if there was picks attach your odds of maybe one of them will hit goes higher.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Why are you so stressed about this gamble? The Spurs gambled on a nobody speedster named Tony Parker who had zero jump shot. At the same age Giddey has far better handles, better form and better defender. I'm not saying Josh will become a hall of famer like Tony but he can also develop some decent outside shot like parker. It is up to the Bulls to train him well and give him the confidence.
How is this a bad trade for either team? 1) Both players' offensive stats are comparable. 2) Both players are bench role-players in OKC. 3) Compare Giddy to the incoming players in this year's draft. He would certainly be a top-five player. 4) Giddy is 9 years younger than Caruso and is nowhere near his ceiling. Giddy is more durable. 5) Chicago wouldn't be able to extend Caruso next year, but they could extend Giddy.
No one said its bad trade for either team. Only for the Bulls. 1. Stats doesn't show Caruso's value. Lavine has better stats than Caruso, see how that played out. 2. Caruso is much better fit for any team than Giddey, Presti just revealed they are planning to get Giddy come off the bench next season. 3. Maybe, but any player this years draft you have control for 4 years, compared to Giddy who is up for extension. That's why OKC traded him, they didn't want to pay him.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 it is a bad trade if the Bulls are trying to remain relevant but they are now going to tank. They need high first round picks and OKC don't have them. What OKC has is an excellent point guard who will only improve in the next 2 years when the Bulls get new picks for Lavine, Demar, Vucevic.
@@carlocalingasan998 how can the pulls get picks for Zach when reports are we need to attach a asset to unload zach, No one will touch Vooch. Demar MAYBE we can get a 2nd rounder or heavily protected first..Maybe. Caruso is the best asset the bulls have and they let it go for a one on one trade which is a bad deal.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Don't be impatient. We haven't even started with draft night. A team like Philly, Warriors, Bucks, Lakers, Heat could use Lavine without attachments. If a Lakers team was able to offload Westbrick, how much more Lavine who is still useful.
Good video, however, I have an issue with one of your points. This trade had Jerry Reinsdorf written all over it, not AKME. If you look at Bulls trades over the years, Jerry takes a backseat when he trusts his front office. Examples: the Sleuth's run and when it was just John Paxson as GM. He does not trust AKME right now and as a result he vetoed 2 trades for 2 1st round picks, one at mid-season and the other before the Josh Giddey trade. 💯 Jerry Reinsdorf has a serious record as a poverty pimp at the negotiating table, and right now AKME is on the chopping block lowkey
Maybe you are right, but I can also see that AK is trying to recreate the Lonzo Magic in Giddey. Like what he did with overpaying for Vooch to recreate a poor mans Jokic.
It was a good trade for the Bulls. Caruso is just a role player. That's it. And they need to get younger. If you want to be upset about something be upset at the Bulls drafting Patrick Williams instead of Halliburton
AC 😂 was not our best player, Zach, Demar and Coby are easily, but yes i agree with you on the trade it should of been better bulls should of requested a draft pick with the deal
1:38 idk about that one. We need huerter and Barnes in return for lavine. That’s our starting PF and a key rotation player right there combine that with our 11th pick + key signings in the off-season we could be a young yet competitive team
I wouldn't hate that trade IF its straight for Lavine, BUT if the reports are treu taht we need to attach assets... nope.. I'd rather stick to lavine and not include Ayo or the 11th pick.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 yea man I agree, Ayo is untouchable. But if it’s pick swaps? I’m all in. It gives the bulls more to not over think at 11 and too just draft ke’el ware at 13 🐂🐂
All i hear is series against Mavs. He copped a viscious elbow to the face that ahook the young kid. He struggled to getbthe ball well in all finals game and when he did everyone expected him to put on a TD show. Chicago you won this deal
Sam Presti fleeces the Bulls on this one. Nice move OKC, eliminate someone who can't handle playoff basketball for a defensive stalwart in Caruso. OKC isn't done, they're going to add at least one more big piece.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 I agree. People are calling Giddey another Westbrook due to his lack of shooting, but that's not even an accurate comparison, because Westbrook at least isn't a complete turnover machine. If Giddey wasn't a decently respectable passer, he'd be almost unplayable on offense. Here's a career comparison: Westbrook: 16.1% Turnover pct on 31.5% Usage, 110.6 Win Shares (59.7 Offense/50.8 Defense) Giddey: 16.5% Turnover pct on 23.4% Usage, 8.6 Win Shares (1.3 Offense/7.3 Defense)
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Not really. OKC picks are all late first rounders so it's almost worthless for a rebuilding team. Giddey has Steve nash handles. He is a better shooter than Tony Parker was at the same age. Giddey would have developed more if not for SGA hogging the ball.
@@carlocalingasan998 any pick is not worthless especially in todays NBA where cap space is a premium. Picks are essential especially for a rebuilding team, late rounds or not. Also OKC has 27 picks in the next 7 years it doesnt need to be theirs but obviously OKC deemed those late picks mre valuable than Giddy, that is saying something. And no he doesn't have better handles than nash. He is a 19% 3pt shooter when a defender is within 6 feet or less. let that sink in... 19% in todays NBA for a guard is horrendous.
Bulls fans are wild not realizing they got a steal. Giddey would be a top 5 pick in this year's draft or next. You basically got a young huge CP3. I'm surprised the bulls only had to give up an aging role player. Check out both players stats. Also, Giddey plays in a way that his knees hold up....the bulls finally have a starting level guard that's available to play. He'll be borderline all star this season and possible hall of famer.
He was unplayable during the playoffs. This is nothing but a light skin Dalen Terry 2.0! The more successful teams have all 5 guys that can shoot or 4 shooters and 1 athletic big. It's not that hard folks. Ak better hope this guy can improve. I think this was an attempt to bring a somewhat well known rookie in to fill those seats. This does not improve the problem we had last year(s). Shooting is the biggest problem and we just shipped out out best shooter from 3! 😂 Waiting to see these other fantastic moves from ak...
That is not a steal. He is at his lowest value and Caruso is at his highest. you are looking in the future and not at the present. His future could be really bright or he could also be Ben Simmons who never developed a shot. The reality is Caruso is more valuable now than Giddey to any team contending. Could he put up big numbers and become an all star? Sure, Zach did it twice here.... Look how desired he is around the league.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 A steal is when you get a player because the other team thinks he has low value. OKC failed to develop Giddey because they focused on getting SGA the ball too much. They wanted quick gratification being OKC and they have stunted the growth of not only giddey but also Chet and JW.
I can't believe how many Bulls fans were so quick to hop on the bandwagon that it was a bad trade. Bulls got absolutely a nice young player nowhere near his prime.
It is a bad trade. The Front office didn't capitalize on the value of Caruso. I don't mind getting Giddey but to get JUST Giddey while Caruso is coming off 2 ALL NBA defense AND Giddey was unplayable and was exposed in the playoffs is a malpractice. A pick or two would have been a better deal even if its protected.
Cause they slow...dude bout to average a triple double....just need an athletic rim running big like derek lively is for luka..gotta let derozen walk and get levine gone
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Another option for the Bulls was trade Caruso with Garland. That probably would made you happier. The only problem is Garland is for a team who wants to win now since he is older. Giddey fits the Bulls new timeline.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 He was really good in the 1st rd and bad in the 2nd. He actually has a higher playoff 3pt percentage than Caruso. His worst year is better than Caruso’s best. Caruso needs a ton of star power to thrive in a very small role. He’s a career backup that started this year because of injury. And still only averaged 10. If both players play their A game, Giddey’s the far superior player. Giddey can have a hot shooting game, Caruso’s not gonna start putting up triple doubles
We traded someone who we couldn’t afford to resign because we are a cheap franchise for someone that if were in this year’s draft would be drafted in the top 3. This is a move to set up other moves imo. This kid is a 6’8 walking triple double and we are in desperate need of a facilitator. I’m excited about this move. We got rid of a player who was great when he was on the court but was often injured and the coach always played out of position. Neither were his fault but it’s true
@@jerrywarren2007 He was 19 at the time, she was 16. What's your problem? Thats pretty much high school stuff, 'bro. Legal in some States and many countries. Ffs...
I don't mind getting Giddy, its how we got him is the issue, he is asking/about to ask for a trade. Was going to be the sixth man. AK decided to overpay for him. He is also extension eligible, I hope we don't overpay for him.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Even if Bulls overpay, they will have cap space after dumping Lavene, Demar and Vucevic. If we don't get picks for those guys then you can rant. In this Caruso trade though, Giddy IS the Pick.
Giddey had centres defend him because OKC played 5 out and he was the worst shooter. OKC chose to stick Josh in the corner instead of running the point or playing from the post where he could have used his passing. It was literally the worst spot to put him.
But thats how the game is played now. Even bigs needs to be respectable at the 3 otherwise you get targeted. For a back court player you need to be atleast a threat to make some otherwise you are a liability. Caruso adpoted, he shot 40% from 3. Is he a sniper, no. But you also cant leave him open.
It's not about AC, its the return that we got. If there was a pick involve, this would've been a lot easier to digest. Giddey is coming off a horrendous playoff run, about to get benched and is asking for a trade yet our FO decided to give up our best asset for a guy like that.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Giddey is coming of a horrendous Mavs series similar to other okc players not named SGA. Check the final 3 games against Pelicans and tell me Giddey was horrendous.
@@carlocalingasan998 He got exposed to a point that Presti told him he will come off the bench. He averaged 12 mins a game. 12. he got catapulted in the rotation by youn guys like Jalen and Jaylin Williams in the rotation.. Even Aaron Wiggins. He is a project... A bery big project that is, OKc has one of the best developmental staff out there... and they can't make him better.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 That's incorrect. Both Jaylin and Jaylen don't play Josh position. During that Mavs series everyone in OKC lost their rhythm because SGA was over dribbling and shooting too much. OKC is using Josh as a spot up shooter. That is not his game and OKC could have been utilizing Josh's Steve Nash like handles.
What the hell are you talking about? You would've been happy if the Bulls had traded Zach Lavine for Giddey instead of a role player like Caruso? Makes no sense and that's the last time listening to this
You really think if Giddey can shoot that he’d be even available much less available for an old specialist on an expiring contract? Did you confuse Caruso for a 26-year old Butler? The reason why teams are interested in Caruso is because he’s cheap. Nobody’s giving up a perfect prospect or a top 3 pick that can be used to draft one for Caruso period! Hearing you and others complaining about Giddey’s weaknesses is like listening to someone complaining that his $20k Ferrari didn’t come with a clean title. You get what you pay for and an imperfect prospect with upside like Giddey is the best you’re gonna get for an aging specialist who’s about to make $20+ mil a year.
picks would've been better than Giddey. And it was already reported many teams offered picks so the answer is yes. Giddey is a nice player, and wouldn't mind having him on the team. Its their negotiating tactics that are flawed. The timing of the trade, had they waited, OKC would lose their leverage, Giddy will be on the bench, not being utilize, asking for a trade tanking his value.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 you really believe there is a prospect in this year’s or next year’s draft available outside of top 5 who’s capable of putting up 17, 7, and 6 on 48% shooting by year 2? C’mon man. Let me put Giddey’s stats in 2022 as a 20-year old into perspective for you, they’re better across the board than the Celtics dual that just won the championship when they were 20, and they’re better than 99% of all current NBA players when they were 20. So I’d take Giddey over picks outside of top 5 any day of the year, especially when taken into account of this regime’s inability to draft in the 1st round.
I hope you are right. I a rooting for him since he is on the bulls. I just feel like the bulls could've gotten more especially with how low his current value is.
We are almost 4 days in and people are still complaining about this like we gave up the MVP of the team for Giddy. Some Bulls fans are spoiled and nonsensical. This trade will pay big dividends for the Bulls. . We have been complaining about the front office not cooking…. So uhm .. let AKMR. COOK. Giddy is the first ingredient of whatever they are cooking. Zach will be next hopefully soon
Because it is a bad trade in a sense of Value, Caruso is your best trade asset and Giddey who was just reveled is a distressed asset. Coming off a worst playoff showing against the Mavs where he showed he literally can't shoot., and was going to be benched next season, if you really want him... The bulls could've gotten much cheaper than Caruso or at least forced the Thunder to give up picks. I don't mind in the prospect of what if? or his potential, but to just that for you best asset is mis management.
In a year's time Bulls fans will be very happy with the trade. Giddey had a bad paly-off series because of mental health issues. He's only 21. Get over it!
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Chicago fans will like giddey after he gets rolling there. He's a better player than he gets credit for. Wish him all the best 👍⛈️💙🐃✊️
I'm an OKC fan. When SGA was injured and Giddey was able to take the lead and play his natural game his stats were really good. If you allow him to play this way he will get even better and be a valuable asset to you. So don't worry about the trade you got a great deal.
GIDDEY GONNA BE FIRE!!!!!
I’m in the minority of people who think that this trade was a win win, Bulls need a rebuild and AC is a great fit. The bulls got younger and a higher ceiling player.
Giddey in his 2nd year was already better than prime Caruso.
Lol they're different players. Giddey couldn't keep up on a Championship level team. Caruso won a Championship his rookie season and played a major role in his team's success including throughout the playoffs and the Finals. Figure it out😏Caruso may have a ring with Okc doing what Giddey can't. He's certainly closer on Okc than Giddey is in Chicago.
I agree, better numbers sure.. Zach also has better numbers than Caruso but guess who is more valuable.
U dont watch ball
@@santiagoskywalkerBetter than Ac but unplayable during the playoffs. And I actually watched to see this dude play. He was messing up spacing, slowing the pace down to slow and getting the 'russell Westbrook treatment'.
@@jdh9676 OKC's main problem was they wanted Giddey to develop his shooting too quickly but did not give him the ball enough. OKC went too much to SGA that it even stunted only Giddey but Chet and JW too. I won't be surprised if JW leaves after his rookie deal.
Man what are talkin' about! Giddey can score and make plays/assists. A WHOLE LOT YOUNGER! CAN BALL AND STILL WILL IMPROVE.
no doubt he could (keyword could). What if he doesn't? The sentiment is not Giddey himself. It's Why it's just GIDDEY? If he doesn't improve we just traded away our best asset for that, BUT if there was picks attach your odds of maybe one of them will hit goes higher.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Why are you so stressed about this gamble? The Spurs gambled on a nobody speedster named Tony Parker who had zero jump shot. At the same age Giddey has far better handles, better form and better defender. I'm not saying Josh will become a hall of famer like Tony but he can also develop some decent outside shot like parker. It is up to the Bulls to train him well and give him the confidence.
EXACTLY
How is this a bad trade for either team?
1) Both players' offensive stats are comparable.
2) Both players are bench role-players in OKC.
3) Compare Giddy to the incoming players in this year's draft. He would certainly be a top-five player.
4) Giddy is 9 years younger than Caruso and is nowhere near his ceiling. Giddy is more durable.
5) Chicago wouldn't be able to extend Caruso next year, but they could extend Giddy.
No one said its bad trade for either team. Only for the Bulls.
1. Stats doesn't show Caruso's value. Lavine has better stats than Caruso, see how that played out.
2. Caruso is much better fit for any team than Giddey, Presti just revealed they are planning to get Giddy come off the bench next season.
3. Maybe, but any player this years draft you have control for 4 years, compared to Giddy who is up for extension. That's why OKC traded him, they didn't want to pay him.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 it is a bad trade if the Bulls are trying to remain relevant but they are now going to tank. They need high first round picks and OKC don't have them. What OKC has is an excellent point guard who will only improve in the next 2 years when the Bulls get new picks for Lavine, Demar, Vucevic.
@@carlocalingasan998 how can the pulls get picks for Zach when reports are we need to attach a asset to unload zach, No one will touch Vooch. Demar MAYBE we can get a 2nd rounder or heavily protected first..Maybe. Caruso is the best asset the bulls have and they let it go for a one on one trade which is a bad deal.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Don't be impatient. We haven't even started with draft night. A team like Philly, Warriors, Bucks, Lakers, Heat could use Lavine without attachments. If a Lakers team was able to offload Westbrick, how much more Lavine who is still useful.
All i here is shooting playoff teams make pionts in the paint predominately
Good video, however, I have an issue with one of your points. This trade had Jerry Reinsdorf written all over it, not AKME. If you look at Bulls trades over the years, Jerry takes a backseat when he trusts his front office. Examples: the Sleuth's run and when it was just John Paxson as GM. He does not trust AKME right now and as a result he vetoed 2 trades for 2 1st round picks, one at mid-season and the other before the Josh Giddey trade. 💯 Jerry Reinsdorf has a serious record as a poverty pimp at the negotiating table, and right now AKME is on the chopping block lowkey
Maybe you are right, but I can also see that AK is trying to recreate the Lonzo Magic in Giddey. Like what he did with overpaying for Vooch to recreate a poor mans Jokic.
It was a good trade for the Bulls. Caruso is just a role player. That's it. And they need to get younger. If you want to be upset about something be upset at the Bulls drafting Patrick Williams instead of Halliburton
AC 😂 was not our best player, Zach, Demar and Coby are easily, but yes i agree with you on the trade it should of been better bulls should of requested a draft pick with the deal
He is not the best player. He is the best Asset.
1:38 idk about that one. We need huerter and Barnes in return for lavine. That’s our starting PF and a key rotation player right there combine that with our 11th pick + key signings in the off-season we could be a young yet competitive team
I wouldn't hate that trade IF its straight for Lavine, BUT if the reports are treu taht we need to attach assets... nope.. I'd rather stick to lavine and not include Ayo or the 11th pick.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 yea man I agree, Ayo is untouchable. But if it’s pick swaps? I’m all in. It gives the bulls more to not over think at 11 and too just draft ke’el ware at 13 🐂🐂
Meh, people think he's worse than he is cuz of the pedo badge and one playoff series. Totally fair trade, he'll be fine for the Bulls
Josh Not like us!
All i hear is series against Mavs. He copped a viscious elbow to the face that ahook the young kid. He struggled to getbthe ball well in all finals game and when he did everyone expected him to put on a TD show. Chicago you won this deal
Sam Presti fleeces the Bulls on this one. Nice move OKC, eliminate someone who can't handle playoff basketball for a defensive stalwart in Caruso.
OKC isn't done, they're going to add at least one more big piece.
He definitely did, this guy is going to the bench and will ask for a trade anyway according to Sam Presti.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 I agree. People are calling Giddey another Westbrook due to his lack of shooting, but that's not even an accurate comparison, because Westbrook at least isn't a complete turnover machine. If Giddey wasn't a decently respectable passer, he'd be almost unplayable on offense. Here's a career comparison:
Westbrook: 16.1% Turnover pct on 31.5% Usage, 110.6 Win Shares (59.7 Offense/50.8 Defense)
Giddey: 16.5% Turnover pct on 23.4% Usage, 8.6 Win Shares (1.3 Offense/7.3 Defense)
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Not really. OKC picks are all late first rounders so it's almost worthless for a rebuilding team. Giddey has Steve nash handles. He is a better shooter than Tony Parker was at the same age. Giddey would have developed more if not for SGA hogging the ball.
@@carlocalingasan998 any pick is not worthless especially in todays NBA where cap space is a premium. Picks are essential especially for a rebuilding team, late rounds or not. Also OKC has 27 picks in the next 7 years it doesnt need to be theirs but obviously OKC deemed those late picks mre valuable than Giddy, that is saying something. And no he doesn't have better handles than nash. He is a 19% 3pt shooter when a defender is within 6 feet or less. let that sink in... 19% in todays NBA for a guard is horrendous.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Maybe but Giddey right now is equivalent to a top 5 pick so it's not a fleecing like you are sayin.
Bulls fans are wild not realizing they got a steal. Giddey would be a top 5 pick in this year's draft or next. You basically got a young huge CP3. I'm surprised the bulls only had to give up an aging role player. Check out both players stats. Also, Giddey plays in a way that his knees hold up....the bulls finally have a starting level guard that's available to play. He'll be borderline all star this season and possible hall of famer.
A steal? Can't shoot or play D, a steal remains to be seen.
He was unplayable during the playoffs. This is nothing but a light skin Dalen Terry 2.0! The more successful teams have all 5 guys that can shoot or 4 shooters and 1 athletic big. It's not that hard folks. Ak better hope this guy can improve. I think this was an attempt to bring a somewhat well known rookie in to fill those seats. This does not improve the problem we had last year(s). Shooting is the biggest problem and we just shipped out out best shooter from 3! 😂 Waiting to see these other fantastic moves from ak...
That is not a steal. He is at his lowest value and Caruso is at his highest. you are looking in the future and not at the present. His future could be really bright or he could also be Ben Simmons who never developed a shot. The reality is Caruso is more valuable now than Giddey to any team contending. Could he put up big numbers and become an all star? Sure, Zach did it twice here.... Look how desired he is around the league.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 A steal is when you get a player because the other team thinks he has low value. OKC failed to develop Giddey because they focused on getting SGA the ball too much. They wanted quick gratification being OKC and they have stunted the growth of not only giddey but also Chet and JW.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Alex won't be in the league in 3 years lol
I can't believe how many Bulls fans were so quick to hop on the bandwagon that it was a bad trade. Bulls got absolutely a nice young player nowhere near his prime.
It is a bad trade. The Front office didn't capitalize on the value of Caruso. I don't mind getting Giddey but to get JUST Giddey while Caruso is coming off 2 ALL NBA defense AND Giddey was unplayable and was exposed in the playoffs is a malpractice. A pick or two would have been a better deal even if its protected.
Cause they slow...dude bout to average a triple double....just need an athletic rim running big like derek lively is for luka..gotta let derozen walk and get levine gone
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Another option for the Bulls was trade Caruso with Garland. That probably would made you happier. The only problem is Garland is for a team who wants to win now since he is older. Giddey fits the Bulls new timeline.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 He was really good in the 1st rd and bad in the 2nd. He actually has a higher playoff 3pt percentage than Caruso. His worst year is better than Caruso’s best. Caruso needs a ton of star power to thrive in a very small role. He’s a career backup that started this year because of injury. And still only averaged 10. If both players play their A game, Giddey’s the far superior player. Giddey can have a hot shooting game, Caruso’s not gonna start putting up triple doubles
We traded someone who we couldn’t afford to resign because we are a cheap franchise for someone that if were in this year’s draft would be drafted in the top 3. This is a move to set up other moves imo. This kid is a 6’8 walking triple double and we are in desperate need of a facilitator. I’m excited about this move. We got rid of a player who was great when he was on the court but was often injured and the coach always played out of position. Neither were his fault but it’s true
I am totally into dumping Caruso. The issue is the optics/morality around having a guy who allegedly had relations with a minor.
@@jerrywarren2007 He was 19 at the time, she was 16. What's your problem? Thats pretty much high school stuff, 'bro. Legal in some States and many countries. Ffs...
I don't mind getting Giddy, its how we got him is the issue, he is asking/about to ask for a trade. Was going to be the sixth man. AK decided to overpay for him. He is also extension eligible, I hope we don't overpay for him.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Even if Bulls overpay, they will have cap space after dumping Lavene, Demar and Vucevic. If we don't get picks for those guys then you can rant. In this Caruso trade though, Giddy IS the Pick.
Giddey had centres defend him because OKC played 5 out and he was the worst shooter.
OKC chose to stick Josh in the corner instead of running the point or playing from the post where he could have used his passing.
It was literally the worst spot to put him.
But thats how the game is played now. Even bigs needs to be respectable at the 3 otherwise you get targeted. For a back court player you need to be atleast a threat to make some otherwise you are a liability. Caruso adpoted, he shot 40% from 3. Is he a sniper, no. But you also cant leave him open.
The return is what 95% of bulls fans are upset about!
Exactly. if there was atleast 1 pick involve this would be more easier to accept.
I am thinking his jersey will say 12-16
that is a good guess. Maybe 14? I don't think anyone wears that with the bulls.
Omg the Alex Caruso love is ridiculous
It's not about AC, its the return that we got. If there was a pick involve, this would've been a lot easier to digest. Giddey is coming off a horrendous playoff run, about to get benched and is asking for a trade yet our FO decided to give up our best asset for a guy like that.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Giddey is coming of a horrendous Mavs series similar to other okc players not named SGA. Check the final 3 games against Pelicans and tell me Giddey was horrendous.
@@carlocalingasan998 He got exposed to a point that Presti told him he will come off the bench. He averaged 12 mins a game. 12. he got catapulted in the rotation by youn guys like Jalen and Jaylin Williams in the rotation.. Even Aaron Wiggins. He is a project... A bery big project that is, OKc has one of the best developmental staff out there... and they can't make him better.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 That's incorrect. Both Jaylin and Jaylen don't play Josh position. During that Mavs series everyone in OKC lost their rhythm because SGA was over dribbling and shooting too much. OKC is using Josh as a spot up shooter. That is not his game and OKC could have been utilizing Josh's Steve Nash like handles.
@ChicagoBullsNation2 oh. U mean get a pick like Dalen Terry etc....stop it with the "get a pick" BS. We hav a 21 YEAR OLD filling a void we hav
What the hell are you talking about? You would've been happy if the Bulls had traded Zach Lavine for Giddey instead of a role player like Caruso? Makes no sense and that's the last time listening to this
Because Caruso is more valuable than Zach is that hard to get?
You really think if Giddey can shoot that he’d be even available much less available for an old specialist on an expiring contract? Did you confuse Caruso for a 26-year old Butler? The reason why teams are interested in Caruso is because he’s cheap. Nobody’s giving up a perfect prospect or a top 3 pick that can be used to draft one for Caruso period! Hearing you and others complaining about Giddey’s weaknesses is like listening to someone complaining that his $20k Ferrari didn’t come with a clean title. You get what you pay for and an imperfect prospect with upside like Giddey is the best you’re gonna get for an aging specialist who’s about to make $20+ mil a year.
picks would've been better than Giddey. And it was already reported many teams offered picks so the answer is yes. Giddey is a nice player, and wouldn't mind having him on the team. Its their negotiating tactics that are flawed. The timing of the trade, had they waited, OKC would lose their leverage, Giddy will be on the bench, not being utilize, asking for a trade tanking his value.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 you really believe there is a prospect in this year’s or next year’s draft available outside of top 5 who’s capable of putting up 17, 7, and 6 on 48% shooting by year 2? C’mon man. Let me put Giddey’s stats in 2022 as a 20-year old into perspective for you, they’re better across the board than the Celtics dual that just won the championship when they were 20, and they’re better than 99% of all current NBA players when they were 20. So I’d take Giddey over picks outside of top 5 any day of the year, especially when taken into account of this regime’s inability to draft in the 1st round.
Y'all will see he is good he just didn't fit .
I hope you are right. I a rooting for him since he is on the bulls. I just feel like the bulls could've gotten more especially with how low his current value is.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 that's valid. And idk how mentally tough Giddy is.
Bulls suck
You are not wrong.
We are almost 4 days in and people are still complaining about this like we gave up the MVP of the team for Giddy. Some Bulls fans are spoiled and nonsensical. This trade will pay big dividends for the Bulls. . We have been complaining about the front office not cooking…. So uhm .. let AKMR. COOK. Giddy is the first ingredient of whatever they are cooking. Zach will be next hopefully soon
Because it is a bad trade in a sense of Value, Caruso is your best trade asset and Giddey who was just reveled is a distressed asset. Coming off a worst playoff showing against the Mavs where he showed he literally can't shoot., and was going to be benched next season, if you really want him... The bulls could've gotten much cheaper than Caruso or at least forced the Thunder to give up picks. I don't mind in the prospect of what if? or his potential, but to just that for you best asset is mis management.
@@ChicagoBullsNation2 Caruso is just 1 asset among others.
In a year's time Bulls fans will be very happy with the trade. Giddey had a bad paly-off series because of mental health issues. He's only 21. Get over it!
I hope so, I hope he doesn't become Ben Simmons 2.0