@@TinaTimeMachine i had my first ever one a few weeks ago in the dream i could not breath then i suddenly woke up and i could not breath for like 2 sec after that i was fine
So few know of the comfort that the tight squeezes and narrow tunnels of the hard earth provide for those weary of the weight of the world, embracing so unrelentingly so as to make the breath catch and be totally cut off, relying no more on the ephemeral breath of air to sustain but only the truth that is buried deep in the ground, that one must dig to find oneself and to witness the soul-crushing crust in which many ancient secrets lay long forgotten, things packed in dirt and soil and rock and sod, things which may even burrow up and sink the very sky with its magnificent pressure that flattens and entombs and crushes and compacts into ever inescapable holes, and then they fill up and the lungs sing in exultation as the mud occupies it.
That’s funny. It’s one of the most challenging caves in the world. It bone against rock for quite a distance You have to exhale to move inch by inch and a huge chance you’ll get stuck and no backing up. Once you’re committed you have no choice but to press forward
This is NOT 'one of the most challenging caves in the world. It bone against rock for quite a distance.' This is a very committing squeeze but it is only just over a body length from bottom to top. However you do have to come out the same way but coming out is much easier as gravity is on your side.
@@clashwithpro9949 yes, and claustrophobia is a very justified fear response, unlike arachnophobia, where it's unlikely you're in any danger of the spider, you could easily get stuck and die in the most horrific way possible in a cave.
I've taken quite a few severe claustrophobics caving and they all loved it much to their own surprise. One enjoyed it so much that he promptly went out and bought himself a load of caving gear and a year later he went on a 5 week caving expedition to Vietnam! The thing is once you're down the cave you're too busy moving and concentrating on getting through the cave to think much so you don't have time to let your fears build up. If possible I like to have someone large in the group if I know someone is claustrophobic that way if they do need any reassurance I can just say "If he got through then so can you!" Plus I point out that if they want to get out they'll just have to keep going.
Note the word "Sporting" It's short for "A sporting challenge.". The British are masters of understatement and British cavers use the term "Sporting" to mean very difficult/tight/wet, etc. Also note Keith's description: "may not be a suitable cave for people of larger than average build!" Again this is classic British cavers understatement and means a passage is very tight.
@Black Hydra It's a fun hobby so unfortunately there's no money. They say Mountaineers do it because it's there. Cavers do it because it's NOT there. Or perhaps because we're not all there! lol. Basically it's the draw of exploring, plus it's fun, a bit like a natural assault course or adventure playground. It also gets you out of the house/city and into the countryside. Plus there's a lot of camaraderie. I can go caving with someone for one weekend and by the end I'll know them better than people I've been working with for years so you make really good friends.
Bro, imagine doing this as a job, making the way for a new tunnel, that is tight all the way through out, and just for it to be a dead end. What would you do?
Simple. You just back out. At worst your mates haul you out by the legs but I've never needed to do that in 30 odd years. The only time getting stuck is a danger is if you're in a steep downward sloping crawl and gravity is working against you. In the history of Caving I'm only aware of two fatalities from getting stuck both of which were in steep downward passages. The main dangers in caving are getting caught out by floods or falling. And these can normally be avoided by common sense and good practise. e.g. Make sure you're properly equipped. Go with someone experienced, ideally who's been down the cave before. Before going down check the cave description in any guide books available. Check the weather forecast. In Britain it's standard practise to make sure someone outside the cave knows which cave you're going to (and a grid reference), the route you intend, the number, experience and equipment of the party, what time you expect to exit the cave and a call out time for Cave Rescue (usually a few hours after your expected exit). I also make sure I have a couple of back up lights in the party, a survival bag and a few basic first aid supplies, plus some water and a few granola bars, etc. If a cave is prone to flooding the guidebook will show a highlighted warning at the start of the description and I'll check the forecast, plus check what the weather has been doing for the last few days (sometimes it takes a bit of time for rain in the hills to make it's way into the cave). If there's an entrance stream I check the water levels before going down and if I've any doubt I choose a cave that stays dry or do something else instead. Like any outdoor pursuit there's always an element of risk, but in reality caving is pretty safe if you're sensible. In fact only 25% of Cave Rescues call outs are for cavers. 50% is for hikers on the moors and 25% is rescuing animals (mainly sheep, cows and dogs). Of all their call outs they only go underground 4% of the time as most caving call outs are for overdue parties and by the time they get to the cave the party has emerged. It's not unusual for trips to take longer than expected due to unexpected hold ups e.g. trouble locating the cave at the start (It can be difficult to find a small hole in the middle of a moor, especially in poor conditions), route finding problems down the cave, etc. N.B. Cave Rescue in Britain is made up solely of volunteers. Much like Mountain Rescue and the R.N.L.I. who liase with the paid emergency services like the police and ambulance etc. Everyone in the caving community looks out for each other so if there's a shout and Cave Rescue need extra bodies as sherpas to haul kit, etc, they'll contact the local caving clubs and pubs and everyone helps out because one day they might need the favour returned.
@@speleokeir At worst, you could end up like John Jones who was stuck upside down for 20+ hours and in the end couldn't be pulled out. Actually the worst would be stuck and then slowly dying of dehydration or even starvation if there's water nearby. I'd imagine these are rare events tho, I've read that most deaths are related to diving in caves like you mentioned.
@@simonjones6604 He was one of the two fatalities from getting stuck I mentioned due to being in a downward sloping passage with gravity working against him.
I asked myself, if this was an escape route from a terrible place would I take it? It would have to be really terrible and you’d have to come along. Then maybe.
if I ever go in a cave-like this for some reason, I might have a panic attack or heart attack because this is my worst fear getting such, in a tight cave and not being able to get out, lol
The squeeze going up don't scare me. Because when you exit it's downward and appears easier to get through. The squeezes downward freak me out...mainly due to the nutty putty incident probably
What makes me panic is the fact they have to go back the way they came and who's to say that the cave opening isnt a smaller diameter than the other side and you cant move rocks so then what, you'r SOL.?.. This all just terrifying
I'm a new subscriber. I absolutely love anything that has to do with caving. I find this hobbie to be very adventurous. I have the up most respect for you and for what you do. please keep posting.
I remember when I first visited the cave. On the right hand wall of the second chamber is a slot that doesn't look big enough to post a ferret through let alone a human being. I couldn't believe it was the way one but it was!
@@timduncan9696 That's why you make sure your batteries are fully charged and you carry a back up light. These days modern LED caving lights last a long time (several days) so it's not really an issue anyway.
three weeks ago My heart would race, and I would have to walk away from the video.. Recently, I find myself watching the smaller squeezes. One's I know I could never physically ever do due to size constraint. But I am really looking into trying this.. Not this cave, but this! hhaha
@@CaverKeith it takes a tremendous amount of nerve to keep your cool in those tight squeezes. The fear of getting stuck, trapped, and buried alive is what would keep me out of those places.
Have you guys ever been to the lost sea adventure in Tennessee? Super tight up in there and when I did it I was 11 so I could fit but now that I'm 15 I can't get thru all of them
There is ascertain geometry arrangement to getting in some situations and being a caver I'd say there were places you couldn't want to try to tackle it backwards. Or. Leading in with the other hand..the wrong hand.. first.
I don't mind trying a tightish(not as tight as this) squeeze if I know I don't have to come back the same way. But going back is a different technique and it worries me I'll be fatuigued or just not be able to twist a different way. Not been for a few years but it worries me more now I'm older.
First cave I ever done on llangatock that was my limit took ages to get through the corkscrew with bob savidge pushing my feet and starky pulling me after that I thought never again 😅 until Darren.😅
You had trouble getting your feet through a squeeze you had just gotten your entire BODY through. Absolutely insane. As a mild claustrophobic I'd like to take this mental challenge on some day. Great video. I have the utmost respect for you for practicing this terrifying (to me) hobby.
Thanks for watching. Ian did make it look a little more difficult than it really is. However I must admit that when I first saw this squeeze I did think to myself, "No way!"
@@gedjad I guess there might be a bit of selfishness involved; might need to be recued and thus endangering the lives of others. But then again that risk spans most aspects of life. Every time you get behind the wheel of a car you carry the risk of crashing it. Can't get so hung up on the what ifs. These guys practice a hobby and so long as they take the required safety measures I see nothing wrong with it.
OK, so here's a scenario for those of us with a claustrophobic nature: You enter the cave to shelter from a particularly nasty storm, it's roomy inside so while you don't feel too comfortable, it's not so bad. Suddenly a very large, very hungry animal starts to enter the cave, attracted by your scent. Do you (A) Make as much noise as possible, try and scare it off, maybe throw some stones / rocks (plenty of ammo) (B) If this doesn't work : lie down down and whimper hoping it goes away or it's a quick death (C) OR spot the squeeze at the rear and think , sod it, and try for an escape down the corkscrew hoping for the best I know it's a bit jokey but I wonder if , in an extreme life or death situation, adrenaline can trump a phobia?
who was the first that had the balls to go trough the corkscrew? and was like i am going to get back dont worry the size of those balls holy moly !!!!!
I remember vividly the first time I saw the corkscrew. I couldn't believe it was the way on. It looked so small that a ferret would have real difficulty getting through it let alone a human being.
A lot of people start at uni. Or sometimes through the scouts. Or else they have a friend who's a caver and asks if they want to try it. In Britain caving is well established so most uni's have a caving club and all the caving areas have a number of local clubs so if your interested you just contact them and go along. Many other western countries also have a caving community and I suspect joining clubs there is a similar process. A lot of caving clubs also have websites with their contact details so if you're interested that's a good place to start. There are also show caves for tourists and adventure centers, etc who offer "wild" caving trip which offer you a taste, but I recommend contacting your local caving club as the best way to start. For anyone interested in caving in Britain this link may be useful: british-caving.org.uk/wiki3/doku.php?id=about:member_clubs
That was definitely one of the tightest most intense squeezes I've ever seen. At which point do you say no, im too big for this gap, because if you don't have this gauge then how can you avoid the potential of getting really stuck? I mean this would be the constant question running through my head. What if I get truly stuck. It would take a lot for someone to stay calm while stuck. I would also be worried about having to go back through the entire cave if there was no exit or I came to a point where it was just too tight to continue. This is why I must never do caving! 😅
There are situations where you have to reach backwards and up height you can't see and hold on. Otherwise you risk a insecure fall. You're kind of reacting where you can't se for something should be there. Probably every caver could talk for hours on unusual reaching and bending just right slow motion gimnastics, I loved it back then. Lord.. I wonder. If we will have caves in heaven.
Not so much the tight spaces and squeezing through that freaks me out, it's all of the unknowns. What if there is an earthquake when you are in the middle of caving? What if you have a heart attack or stroke? What if the person in front of you does? What if a previously closed off section breaks and the cave starts filling with water when you are in the middle of it? What if you run into a potentially vicious animal with no space to move? Like it's all THAT shit that freaks me out more than anything else.
You have some big balls doing that stuff mate I would be pancaking just going into the cave so tight a space wow a can feel palpitations just watching you doing it🤢🤢😱😱😱
I like that caving suit, there is a big black cross on the backside, did it originally have accompanying wording "Kick Here" that has since rubbed off? ;)
I started breathing harder & my heart beat got stronger! I almost couldn't watch you! I never felt this way before. I COULD NEVER EVER DO THAT. PANIC SET IN, ALMOST. IT'S NOT EVEN ME. I don't understand why I got like this. I can always watch anything. Very strange. Do not like this feeling. Why do you do it? In such a tight spot. Why don't you just say forget it, to small?
Hi Babs Ann. I can clearly remember the first time I did this squeeze. At first glance it looks impossibly tight and I could not believe it was the way on. Getting through is more about technique. Trying to force your way through is never going to work. Having got through the sense of achievement is enormous and it's much easier going back as it slopes downhill and gravity really helps. I do it because I enjoy the challenge.
I have never been caving but I REALLY REALLY want to go!!!!!!!! Please reply to this message! I’ve literally spent the last month watching your videos lol
Congratulations, I never knew that I had any claustrophobic tendencies until now. May I respectively offer the gift of a Colt 1911, along with 150 rounds of ammo, as minimum, for those persons who cannot make it back through that Passage Through Hell...!
This is just silly. Being defeated by a squeeze doesn't mean you're going to die. Going back is more difficult but by no means impossible and besides we never go caving solo. That too would be very silly.
Wait, isn't this something you wake up from, screaming and drenched in sweat, thinking "thank F**k that was just a dream"?
wow thats what brought me here too!? what is up with these dreams?
I have them too.
Glad I'm not the only one with these dreams.
@@TinaTimeMachine i had my first ever one a few weeks ago in the dream i could not breath then i suddenly woke up and i could not breath for like 2 sec after that i was fine
Yes billion %
Remember the words of one of the man from cave rescue team “ There is nothing below in those caves which is worth your life “
Aditya Vikram facts
I think they are kind of related to lizard family they like crawling in holes...
There is nothing in life that makes it worth it to go spelunking
But what if there is? Above ground life is for losers and girly nerds.
So few know of the comfort that the tight squeezes and narrow tunnels of the hard earth provide for those weary of the weight of the world, embracing so unrelentingly so as to make the breath catch and be totally cut off, relying no more on the ephemeral breath of air to sustain but only the truth that is buried deep in the ground, that one must dig to find oneself and to witness the soul-crushing crust in which many ancient secrets lay long forgotten, things packed in dirt and soil and rock and sod, things which may even burrow up and sink the very sky with its magnificent pressure that flattens and entombs and crushes and compacts into ever inescapable holes, and then they fill up and the lungs sing in exultation as the mud occupies it.
This is a beginners cave ? !...Beginning of the end for me, I’d rather floss a Great Whites teeth.
Good 1 😂
That’s funny. It’s one of the most challenging caves in the world. It bone against rock for quite a distance You have to exhale to move inch by inch and a huge chance you’ll get stuck and no backing up. Once you’re committed you have no choice but to press forward
@@richardleetbluesharmonicac7192 do they go back out the same way they came in?
This is NOT 'one of the most challenging caves in the world. It bone against rock for quite a distance.' This is a very committing squeeze but it is only just over a body length from bottom to top. However you do have to come out the same way but coming out is much easier as gravity is on your side.
Why are the rocks so smooth?
I’m glad I quit caving once I was born
prodigybeatz stop stealing comments bud
Stolened
I'm glad I retired from caving once I was born
Your birth cave was much more slippery !!!
Guilty until proven innocent! Welcome to human society.
I am thinking the word "beginner" was used very loosely here.
Right. If "I think we've done it" is beginner cave language then I don't wanna know what moderate cave language is lol
I think i am having a mild panic attack watching this my heart rate increased ..lol. I think I am claustrophobic
Hahahah yes me too i am claustrophobic
@@clashwithpro9949 yes, and claustrophobia is a very justified fear response, unlike arachnophobia, where it's unlikely you're in any danger of the spider, you could easily get stuck and die in the most horrific way possible in a cave.
You discover new things about yourself everyday. What did I learn today? That I’m never doing this ever
I'm really pleased to hear that my little video has helped you make an important decision.
Same
I enjoy your videos, because im of claustrophobic type of people so your videos are kindoff helping with fighting that fear.
I've taken quite a few severe claustrophobics caving and they all loved it much to their own surprise. One enjoyed it so much that he promptly went out and bought himself a load of caving gear and a year later he went on a 5 week caving expedition to Vietnam!
The thing is once you're down the cave you're too busy moving and concentrating on getting through the cave to think much so you don't have time to let your fears build up.
If possible I like to have someone large in the group if I know someone is claustrophobic that way if they do need any reassurance I can just say "If he got through then so can you!" Plus I point out that if they want to get out they'll just have to keep going.
Same
Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope. I have massive respect for what you are able to do physically and psychologically. Tip of the hat.
Fellow noper here. I have little or no respect for people who do not understand how precious life is.
god the stress i was having while watching this is off the charts
And you say that's a "sporting BEGINNER'S" cave??? I don't think I would fancy going into an intermediate cave!!! LOL
I've done the corkscrew on my only ever caving trip. It wasn't too bad.
It was a top weekend - I must do it again soon.
Note the word "Sporting" It's short for "A sporting challenge.". The British are masters of understatement and British cavers use the term "Sporting" to mean very difficult/tight/wet, etc.
Also note Keith's description: "may not be a suitable cave for people of larger than average build!" Again this is classic British cavers understatement and means a passage is very tight.
Lol or an advanced cave
i have exactly one question... why?
they are kind of related to lizard family they like crawling in holes...
rocknroll onefourthreetwo makes more sense
@Black Hydra It's a fun hobby so unfortunately there's no money. They say Mountaineers do it because it's there. Cavers do it because it's NOT there. Or perhaps because we're not all there! lol.
Basically it's the draw of exploring, plus it's fun, a bit like a natural assault course or adventure playground. It also gets you out of the house/city and into the countryside. Plus there's a lot of camaraderie. I can go caving with someone for one weekend and by the end I'll know them better than people I've been working with for years so you make really good friends.
Bro, imagine doing this as a job, making the way for a new tunnel, that is tight all the way through out, and just for it to be a dead end. What would you do?
Look up John Edward Jones to see what he did when that happened to him
Fin McMurder he did nothing 😂
Simple. You just back out. At worst your mates haul you out by the legs but I've never needed to do that in 30 odd years. The only time getting stuck is a danger is if you're in a steep downward sloping crawl and gravity is working against you. In the history of Caving I'm only aware of two fatalities from getting stuck both of which were in steep downward passages. The main dangers in caving are getting caught out by floods or falling. And these can normally be avoided by common sense and good practise.
e.g. Make sure you're properly equipped. Go with someone experienced, ideally who's been down the cave before. Before going down check the cave description in any guide books available. Check the weather forecast. In Britain it's standard practise to make sure someone outside the cave knows which cave you're going to (and a grid reference), the route you intend, the number, experience and equipment of the party, what time you expect to exit the cave and a call out time for Cave Rescue (usually a few hours after your expected exit). I also make sure I have a couple of back up lights in the party, a survival bag and a few basic first aid supplies, plus some water and a few granola bars, etc.
If a cave is prone to flooding the guidebook will show a highlighted warning at the start of the description and I'll check the forecast, plus check what the weather has been doing for the last few days (sometimes it takes a bit of time for rain in the hills to make it's way into the cave). If there's an entrance stream I check the water levels before going down and if I've any doubt I choose a cave that stays dry or do something else instead.
Like any outdoor pursuit there's always an element of risk, but in reality caving is pretty safe if you're sensible. In fact only 25% of Cave Rescues call outs are for cavers. 50% is for hikers on the moors and 25% is rescuing animals (mainly sheep, cows and dogs). Of all their call outs they only go underground 4% of the time as most caving call outs are for overdue parties and by the time they get to the cave the party has emerged. It's not unusual for trips to take longer than expected due to unexpected hold ups e.g. trouble locating the cave at the start (It can be difficult to find a small hole in the middle of a moor, especially in poor conditions), route finding problems down the cave, etc.
N.B. Cave Rescue in Britain is made up solely of volunteers. Much like Mountain Rescue and the R.N.L.I. who liase with the paid emergency services like the police and ambulance etc. Everyone in the caving community looks out for each other so if there's a shout and Cave Rescue need extra bodies as sherpas to haul kit, etc, they'll contact the local caving clubs and pubs and everyone helps out because one day they might need the favour returned.
@@speleokeir At worst, you could end up like John Jones who was stuck upside down for 20+ hours and in the end couldn't be pulled out. Actually the worst would be stuck and then slowly dying of dehydration or even starvation if there's water nearby. I'd imagine these are rare events tho, I've read that most deaths are related to diving in caves like you mentioned.
@@simonjones6604 He was one of the two fatalities from getting stuck I mentioned due to being in a downward sloping passage with gravity working against him.
So pleased you make these videos... I could never ever contemplate this kinda thing.. but love watching it 😎... keep up the good work cheers
Great video. Being stuck is a relative statement. Taking your time and don't give up. Keep posting these videos.
Thanks for watching. There will be more later this year.
I asked myself, if this was an escape route from a terrible place would I take it? It would have to be really terrible and you’d have to come along. Then maybe.
I would probably bring a hammer and chisel to make things a little more comfortable for my lungs.
if I ever go in a cave-like this for some reason, I might have a panic attack or heart attack because this is my worst fear getting such, in a tight cave and not being able to get out, lol
Wonderful footage of a tight crawl .. MY FAVORITE!!
Thanks. Pleased you like it.
It's the "corkscrew" aspect that scares me.
The squeeze going up don't scare me. Because when you exit it's downward and appears easier to get through. The squeezes downward freak me out...mainly due to the nutty putty incident probably
Just found your channel & i’m loving every second of it. Thanks for sharing your adventures!
Hi Alec. Really pleased that you are enjoying the videos.
What makes me panic is the fact they have to go back the way they came and who's to say that the cave opening isnt a smaller diameter than the other side and you cant move rocks so then what, you'r SOL.?.. This all just terrifying
I'm a new subscriber. I absolutely love anything that has to do with caving. I find this hobbie to be very adventurous. I have the up most respect for you and for what you do. please keep posting.
Thanks very much for subscribing. It is adventurous but we do have tremendous fun. There will be more videos later this year.
If something is that tight, why force it. What happens if you get stuck
What if you get stuck?
That was a tough squeeze, thanks for sharing. And the was the beginners route, wow!
I remember when I first visited the cave. On the right hand wall of the second chamber is a slot that doesn't look big enough to post a ferret through let alone a human being. I couldn't believe it was the way one but it was!
These guys are trying to reenact being born
100% Crazy!!!
Imagine that old guy had a heart attack as he was trying to squeeze through! How on earth would you get out???
Imagine ur deep in and all the flashlights die
@@timduncan9696 That's why you make sure your batteries are fully charged and you carry a back up light. These days modern LED caving lights last a long time (several days) so it's not really an issue anyway.
I will die but i will never do this
I will die in verry happyyyy but never go to cave..😥😪
I went on a school residential they took me caving and after I took the bus home
Bit you've still got to go back to get out!!!
three weeks ago My heart would race, and I would have to walk away from the video.. Recently, I find myself watching the smaller squeezes. One's I know I could never physically ever do due to size constraint. But I am really looking into trying this.. Not this cave, but this! hhaha
Wow that looks snug!!!! I'd definitely give it a go though!!! Excellent video as usual Keith!
Thanks Steve. It is quite committing.
Did you ever had a panic attack in one of those tight squeezes?
No. I'm usually very calm but I have seen other people get a little upset.
@@CaverKeith it takes a tremendous amount of nerve to keep your cool in those tight squeezes.
The fear of getting stuck, trapped, and buried alive is what would keep me out of those places.
That's me when I try to go poop sometimes it's just really tight and hard to push and squeeze it out
Have you guys ever been to the lost sea adventure in Tennessee? Super tight up in there and when I did it I was 11 so I could fit but now that I'm 15 I can't get thru all of them
Never been caving in Tennessee. Sounds like fun.
@@CaverKeith oh it's so much fun! And on top of the tight caves they have the worlds largest underground lake or at least the largest that's public
Hiw is the camera ready before the guy gets there?
But what if your back gives out halfway through? What if a rock falls and blocks the way back after you get through? You are dead .
There is ascertain geometry arrangement to getting in some situations and being a caver I'd say there were places you couldn't want to try to tackle it backwards. Or. Leading in with the other hand..the wrong hand.. first.
I’ve never gone caving in my life. But I feel like I’m having deja vu...
3:20 why did I have to finish that vindaloo last night...
3:40 first documented case of a man giving birth.
I don't mind trying a tightish(not as tight as this) squeeze if I know I don't have to come back the same way.
But going back is a different technique and it worries me I'll be fatuigued or just not be able to twist a different way.
Not been for a few years but it worries me more now I'm older.
First cave I ever done on llangatock that was my limit took ages to get through the corkscrew with bob savidge pushing my feet and starky pulling me after that I thought never again 😅 until Darren.😅
Hi Les. It was one of my first caves on Llangattock. Very memorable. When I got to the corkscrew, I couldn't believe it could possibly be the way on.
Really great photography
Thank you. I'm pleased you enjoyed it.
I'd love explanations of safety tips during if you ever film again in these.
Wonderful video Keith. Amazing how smooth the walls are, it's obviously seen a bit of traffic.
Thanks Alice. It is a very well used cave but still quite a challenge.
I just found this and I have to say AMAZING CONTENT
Thank you.
How u hon get out tho
YOu have been there more than once?? You went back??? What do YOUR nightmares look like? Wow.
Why is it that you venture into these tight caves? Do you just enjoy the adventure? This particular one seemed quite tight and non eventful
You had trouble getting your feet through a squeeze you had just gotten your entire BODY through. Absolutely insane. As a mild claustrophobic I'd like to take this mental challenge on some day.
Great video. I have the utmost respect for you for practicing this terrifying (to me) hobby.
Thanks for watching. Ian did make it look a little more difficult than it really is. However I must admit that when I first saw this squeeze I did think to myself, "No way!"
I can’t really respect people for risking their lives even though they don’t believe that they are
@@gedjad I guess there might be a bit of selfishness involved; might need to be recued and thus endangering the lives of others. But then again that risk spans most aspects of life. Every time you get behind the wheel of a car you carry the risk of crashing it. Can't get so hung up on the what ifs.
These guys practice a hobby and so long as they take the required safety measures I see nothing wrong with it.
So what happens if you get stuck in one of those super tight areas?
OK, so here's a scenario for those of us with a claustrophobic nature:
You enter the cave to shelter from a particularly nasty storm, it's roomy inside so while you don't feel too comfortable, it's not so bad.
Suddenly a very large, very hungry animal starts to enter the cave, attracted by your scent. Do you
(A) Make as much noise as possible, try and scare it off, maybe throw some stones / rocks (plenty of ammo)
(B) If this doesn't work : lie down down and whimper hoping it goes away or it's a quick death
(C) OR spot the squeeze at the rear and think , sod it, and try for an escape down the corkscrew hoping for the best
I know it's a bit jokey but I wonder if , in an extreme life or death situation, adrenaline can trump a phobia?
Why are all these tight squeezes just about medium plus human sized? It’s like if you’re just a bit too large, you could never do spelunking at all.
who was the first that had the balls to go trough the corkscrew? and was like i am going to get back dont worry the size of those balls holy moly !!!!!
I remember vividly the first time I saw the corkscrew. I couldn't believe it was the way on. It looked so small that a ferret would have real difficulty getting through it let alone a human being.
The stuff nightmares are made of!! For me anyway..lol
At least he's wearing a helmet in case he falls. Safety first.
Would butter be effective?
The birth of a caver.
Is it a thru cave or is it back and out? If so, what's that squeeze like going backwards?
I'm afraid one does have to go back out the same way but it is much easier going back down as one is assisted by gravity.
Imagine running into Gollum in one of these bad boys.
You're brave man I would never go I to a cave
You guys are awesome.
“ If you got too much cake don’t venture where it quake”
Pure poetry.
Would you consider yourself a very experienced caver? And if so how did you become a caver?
Yes. It's a very long story.
A lot of people start at uni. Or sometimes through the scouts. Or else they have a friend who's a caver and asks if they want to try it. In Britain caving is well established so most uni's have a caving club and all the caving areas have a number of local clubs so if your interested you just contact them and go along. Many other western countries also have a caving community and I suspect joining clubs there is a similar process.
A lot of caving clubs also have websites with their contact details so if you're interested that's a good place to start. There are also show caves for tourists and adventure centers, etc who offer "wild" caving trip which offer you a taste, but I recommend contacting your local caving club as the best way to start. For anyone interested in caving in Britain this link may be useful:
british-caving.org.uk/wiki3/doku.php?id=about:member_clubs
Just because you squeezed in ! Doesn't mean the squeeze out is the same ! Say hi to your new permanent home !
Sorry to disappoint but it's much, much easier coming out as it's downhill and gravity really helps.
My claustrophobia has hit me hard on this one
I know I would absolutely hate pot holing, but nonetheless, I feel I could do it and not panic... But I really wouldn't want to.
do you have to return the same way or exit else where?
You have to come back out the same way but getting out is much easier as it's downhill so gravity helps.
Do you get spiders down there?
Often you will find spiders near the entrance in the twilight zone.
@@CaverKeith so they are not deep inside the actual cave?
I’ve not seen spiders deep inside British caves.
That was definitely one of the tightest most intense squeezes I've ever seen. At which point do you say no, im too big for this gap, because if you don't have this gauge then how can you avoid the potential of getting really stuck? I mean this would be the constant question running through my head. What if I get truly stuck. It would take a lot for someone to stay calm while stuck. I would also be worried about having to go back through the entire cave if there was no exit or I came to a point where it was just too tight to continue. This is why I must never do caving! 😅
It is very rare for anyone to get truly stuck but I agree that it is best not to take unnecessary risks.
Is this truly the only way into the room? No around or up and over?? Kind of ironic....
I'm afraid so.
Is there any danger of not being able to go back at this section?
See my reply below.
@ haha nice
Adrian 😂😂😂
Nerves of steel.
Imagine getting lost in a cave pike this.
It's quite a small cave system so it's not possible to get lost.
There are situations where you have to reach backwards and up height you can't see and hold on. Otherwise you risk a insecure fall. You're kind of reacting where you can't se for something should be there. Probably every caver could talk for hours on unusual reaching and bending just right slow motion gimnastics, I loved it back then. Lord.. I wonder. If we will have caves in heaven.
Not so much the tight spaces and squeezing through that freaks me out, it's all of the unknowns.
What if there is an earthquake when you are in the middle of caving?
What if you have a heart attack or stroke? What if the person in front of you does?
What if a previously closed off section breaks and the cave starts filling with water when you are in the middle of it?
What if you run into a potentially vicious animal with no space to move?
Like it's all THAT shit that freaks me out more than anything else.
With all these phobias I think it's probably best that you do keep out of caves.
There's a thick line between cool and stupid.
Each time they shown a different angle, I just think about the fact the *camera guy* did it before him
Yeah and it’s a good job he got through because I was on the wrong side of him. 😃
@@CaverKeith you guys did great though! If it wasn’t for thrill seekers like you guys, the internet especially TH-cam would be stale 😂💯
Thanks very much. Your comment is appreciated.
Probably something i would consider doing if contemplating suicide by narrow rock passages.
Are they gone mad or what
Its the baggy clothing that get you in trouble
It certainly doesn't help.
why do they do this
I would rather burn alive than face getting stuck in these caves
this new minecraft update is scary
You have some big balls doing that stuff mate I would be pancaking just going into the cave so tight a space wow a can feel palpitations just watching you doing it🤢🤢😱😱😱
I like that caving suit, there is a big black cross on the backside, did it originally have accompanying wording "Kick Here" that has since rubbed off? ;)
“Help I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!!!” ‘No No No “ Help I’m stuck and I can’t get out!😱
He was only a little bit stuck. Nothing really to worry about.
I started breathing harder & my heart beat got stronger! I almost couldn't watch you! I never felt this way before.
I COULD NEVER EVER DO THAT. PANIC SET IN, ALMOST. IT'S NOT EVEN ME.
I don't understand why I got like this. I can always watch anything. Very strange. Do not like this feeling.
Why do you do it? In such a tight spot. Why don't you just say forget it, to small?
Hi Babs Ann. I can clearly remember the first time I did this squeeze. At first glance it looks impossibly tight and I could not believe it was the way on. Getting through is more about technique. Trying to force your way through is never going to work. Having got through the sense of achievement is enormous and it's much easier going back as it slopes downhill and gravity really helps. I do it because I enjoy the challenge.
Is that a lunchbox hes carrying?
It's the box that I carry all of my camera gear in.
Keith Edwards oooh
@@INKKK_ Always best to get others to carry my gear. Perhaps that's why no one wants to go caving with me anymore?
Keith Edwards lol
Just why
i still have to try this but my vdeos are satisfying enough
You really must try it.
@@CaverKeith i will
it's not the. claustrophobia, the low enterence, the corkscrew, or polished surfaces. it's the lack of wifi that scares me.
i stole this line.
🤣
I have never been caving but I REALLY REALLY want to go!!!!!!!! Please reply to this message! I’ve literally spent the last month watching your videos lol
I knew someone must be watching them, thanks.
Keith Edwards no seriously I really want to go it would be incredible to be able to go with someone as yourself
Your best bet then is to find a caving club local to where you live. Thanks again for adding to my view count.
What you call a hobby is my absolute worst nightmare.
Congratulations, I never knew that I had any claustrophobic tendencies until now. May I respectively offer the gift of a Colt 1911, along with 150 rounds of ammo, as minimum, for those persons who cannot make it back through that Passage Through Hell...!
my god
If you get “defeated” by a squeeze I’m pretty sure that means you’re dead. Not as simple as going back, especially when alone
This is just silly. Being defeated by a squeeze doesn't mean you're going to die. Going back is more difficult but by no means impossible and besides we never go caving solo. That too would be very silly.
What means squeeze?
Why……. Why would you do this?