Wether she's guilty or not... she 100% did not get a fair trial, evidence was withheld from the jury.. like a little titbit that kids were dying while she wasn't even working... something is wrong with her conviction
It is Really disgusting what they have done. Lucy has been portrayed as a evil murder of children . She is just a caring nurse. She was given a very unfair trail.
Such is the momentum of experts lining up to support the innocence campaign, I cant see how this verdict is not at the very least quesioned in appeal court. After Lucy is released, my greatest wish is the to see the arrogant, narcissistic negligent consultants, who covered up their own mistakes, bullied Lucy Letby and then, having been made to apologise, conspired to have her accused of murder, account for their actions.
Lucy Letby must be released, she did nothing. She was blamed for other peoples mistakes and hospital failings. Her life and her families has been ruined. I hope she can get over this when she is released.
That this sort of thing happens comes as no surprise. My own experiences are not directly relevant to this case but are indicative of the state of the NHS generally. Having a problem, I consulted my GP and was referred to a consultant at the local hospital. I was seen but then shunted around from department to department, consultant to consultant over a period of several months. At every turn I was told that "Somebody has made a mistake", that I should not be there and then referred back to the original consultant. After more than a year I was given an appointment for an operation. I attended, was put in a gown and was waiting to be called in but it seems that "Somebody has made a mistake" again. Then I was quietly dropped from the waiting list with no further explanation. The problem worsened and I again consulted my GP. When history began to repeat itself and "Somebody made mistakes" again, I looked at the possibility of private treatment. However, who should the private surgeon be but the same one who presides over the grossly inefficient NHS department of mistake makers I had already seen. NHS management and senior surgeons are all more interested in cushy lives and jobs than in patients' welfare.
Not just the NHS, but most organisations. Try challenging the wishes of the dominant clique in a humble club (of any kind) and watch the lies, not only from the main protagonists, but from the hangers-on that don't want the boat rocked.
The witch hunt is exposed when scientific principles are applied and unfounded opinions cast aside. It is now clear that those poor babies died despite Lucy trying to save them, not because she hurt them. This gross miscarriage of justice must be overturned and Lucy compensated for the destruction of her life. Those responsible must be held accountable.
Was there any outcome between a manager of the ward Lucy worked on and a court judge being in the same freemason's which would be a conflict of intrest.
That course of appeal was only based on the media reporting not lending itself to her getting a fair trial. Don't read anything into that. Its just a way of blocking most appeals.
@@Relugus ludicrous to make the assumption there was an organised gang og healthcare workers in the hospital killing babies. Back up your claim with hard evidence
@@idi0tdetectioninprogress then they had no ground of appeal in reality. If this only is enough to cast doubt on the identity of the killer of 2 of the babies killed, then that also is not enough because she was convicted of the death of more than 2 babies
@@jaspalsingh5258 The appeal process on which her old team represented her is limited in scope. It has to be done as a tick box excercise, but it really meant nothing. McDonald is taking two routes, in parallel, as he said at the press conference. One unprecedented route and one to the CCRC. So if Lucy is cleared of just one baby, do you want the culprit to remain unchallenged for their failing and poor practices.
Possibly incompetent doctors looking for a scapegoat. They repeatedly reported concerns about her to senior management until management and had no choice but to suspend her. If she is proven innocent, the doctors should be struck off, and the celebrity doctor involved cancelled.
Not quite. Its a new team of medical experts, who have discredited the old evidence on cause of death in two of the cases. Its called evidence deletion. The aspect of Evans making up new reports, after the trial which he testified on, makes him an unreliable witness, that's the second point.
Why would she ever have sat for assessments, have you? We`re presumed sane unless we display signs to the contrary. Much like were presumed innocent unless proven otherwise beyond reasonable doubt.
@idi0tdetectioninprogress because everything in life has an opposite, with the same outcome. Extreme helicopter parenting has the same level of emotionally disregulated damage as extreme neglect. Being a nurse, mixing with high functioning adults, Letby would have recognised her traits. Her little girls' adult bedroom was off, just for starters.
A DOCTOR has said claims he has changed his mind over the cause of death for three of Lucy Letby’s victims are “unsubstantiated” and “inaccurate”. Retired consultant paediatrician Dr Dewi Evans responded to the assertions of Letby’s barrister Mark McDonald, who said the prosecution’s lead medical witness had altered his views on how the infants had died at the Countess of Chester Hospital’s neonatal unit. Mr McDonald told reporters he was immediately seeking permission from the Court of Appeal to relook at her case on the grounds that Dr Evans is “not a reliable expert” and the former nurse’s convictions for murder and attempted murder are unsafe. On Tuesday, Dr Evans said: “Mr Mark McDonald’s observations regarding my evidence is unsubstantiated, unfounded, inaccurate.
@@FilmNavif she wasn’t white no one would be talking about her possibly being innocent after being found guilty to this extent. But yeah by all means her written confessions and all the circumstantial evidence throw it out the window and free the baby killer 😂 So yes OPs comment was intelligent.
She gonna get away with it ha😂 she's got 15 life orders n she's gonna get away with it 😂 she had 2 trails found Guilty 2 appeals refused n she's gonna get away with it 😂 Go give ur head wobble Mcdonald is doing this in vain she's not going ne where Thanks 2 justice catching up with her she thought she'd got away with it monster u deserve all you're got coming g 2 you letby more n more charges time will tell pathological liar she is but couldn't get away with her lies ne more got ripped 2 pieces when she took the stand 😂 n people think this things innocent frightening how some humans r sooooo stupid n gullible they believe n e thing their told or hear
Please people this ist new evidence his doing this in vain lucy letby is Guilty as sin so u crack on Mark wasting ur breath this monster can't be helped don't use get it she's a monster we'll see him get her a new trail not let her rot
Wether she's guilty or not... she 100% did not get a fair trial, evidence was withheld from the jury.. like a little titbit that kids were dying while she wasn't even working... something is wrong with her conviction
It is Really disgusting what they have done. Lucy has been portrayed as a evil murder of children . She is just a caring nurse. She was given a very unfair trail.
Thats because she IS
Such is the momentum of experts lining up to support the innocence campaign, I cant see how this verdict is not at the very least quesioned in appeal court. After Lucy is released, my greatest wish is the to see the arrogant, narcissistic negligent consultants, who covered up their own mistakes, bullied Lucy Letby and then, having been made to apologise, conspired to have her accused of murder, account for their actions.
The courts don’t want to admit yet again they have got it wrong
After the post office scandal I feel just cuz something looks like it it doesn't make it so
Here a case to look at the Beatrice 6 you are absolutely bang on there ❤
This is amazing. Seems like she had a crap legal team to start with.
There's something not right in this case and the conviction is a little unsafe. Lets see what happens next... cover up..possibly.
Lucy Letby must be released, she did nothing. She was blamed for other peoples mistakes and hospital failings. Her life and her families has been ruined. I hope she can get over this when she is released.
She is like
They’ll deny anything. Just to save face.
She could be 100% innocent but the media and British legal establishment would never let her have a retrial.
She has definitely been used as the Fall guy
It's not up to the media if she has a retrial dude
This is heartbreaking . If this is the result they have ruined this young womans life.
It’s utter nonsense
Whereas Letby ruined many families lives when she killed those babies!
I wonder why the establishment don't like her?
It's all very sinister.
Lucy was actually a whistleblower where she saw things that were not right
Yes, as a Jury you need to hear from all experts
That this sort of thing happens comes as no surprise. My own experiences are not directly relevant to this case but are indicative of the state of the NHS generally. Having a problem, I consulted my GP and was referred to a consultant at the local hospital. I was seen but then shunted around from department to department, consultant to consultant over a period of several months. At every turn I was told that "Somebody has made a mistake", that I should not be there and then referred back to the original consultant. After more than a year I was given an appointment for an operation. I attended, was put in a gown and was waiting to be called in but it seems that "Somebody has made a mistake" again. Then I was quietly dropped from the waiting list with no further explanation. The problem worsened and I again consulted my GP. When history began to repeat itself and "Somebody made mistakes" again, I looked at the possibility of private treatment. However, who should the private surgeon be but the same one who presides over the grossly inefficient NHS department of mistake makers I had already seen. NHS management and senior surgeons are all more interested in cushy lives and jobs than in patients' welfare.
Not just the NHS, but most organisations. Try challenging the wishes of the dominant clique in a humble club (of any kind) and watch the lies, not only from the main protagonists, but from the hangers-on that don't want the boat rocked.
The witch hunt is exposed when scientific principles are applied and unfounded opinions cast aside. It is now clear that those poor babies died despite Lucy trying to save them, not because she hurt them. This gross miscarriage of justice must be overturned and Lucy compensated for the destruction of her life. Those responsible must be held accountable.
Yes..letby is a saint not an evil cow!🙄
Honest, clever, truthful and intelligent men on job here. Mark Mcdonald is going to rip this case to shreds, i said from day one she didnt do it.
Said from day one she is innocent
I don't think so but I think she'll get away with it on a technicality.
Guilty 100%. They are clutching at straws
Course you did mate
How? By looking at her face?
@@dizzydiane123100? Na there is doubt, there was cases she wasn't around for they picked and chose the cases that were highlighted.
She has to have a retrial!
100% innocent
A very unsafe conviction.
This will clearly end in the retrial at some stage.
Was there any outcome between a manager of the ward Lucy worked on and a court judge being in the same freemason's which would be a conflict of intrest.
Don't go there: they'll just dig their heels in to keep her locked up even more...
Great point though!
Amazing work from Mark McDonald and team. #LucyLetbyisInnocent
The pressure of gas or oxygen would have been prescribed by ? Doctor.
I have always said she was innocent, i always said the same about the louise woodwood girl
what is your evidence
Have you heard the whole prosecution court transcript? If she’s innocent, I’ll eat my cat.
Bombshell stuff
The court of appeal knocked it back twice already. I don't think this will be enough to change anything
Brearey killed a baby then blamed it on Letby. That's pretty damn significant.
We now know two of the gang of four who accused Letby killed babies.
That course of appeal was only based on the media reporting not lending itself to her getting a fair trial. Don't read anything into that. Its just a way of blocking most appeals.
@@Relugus ludicrous to make the assumption there was an organised gang og healthcare workers in the hospital killing babies. Back up your claim with hard evidence
@@idi0tdetectioninprogress then they had no ground of appeal in reality. If this only is enough to cast doubt on the identity of the killer of 2 of the babies killed, then that also is not enough because she was convicted of the death of more than 2 babies
@@jaspalsingh5258 The appeal process on which her old team represented her is limited in scope.
It has to be done as a tick box excercise, but it really meant nothing.
McDonald is taking two routes, in parallel, as he said at the press conference. One unprecedented route and one to the CCRC.
So if Lucy is cleared of just one baby, do you want the culprit to remain unchallenged for their failing and poor practices.
Possibly incompetent doctors looking for a scapegoat. They repeatedly reported concerns about her to senior management until management and had no choice but to suspend her.
If she is proven innocent, the doctors should be struck off, and the celebrity doctor involved cancelled.
Lucy’s barrister is going to have to learn how to say statistics
it's not new evidence, it's old evidence he claims one of the 'expert's has now changed their monds on 3 cases
And one of theconsultants who accuses Letby is the actual killer of Baby O.
Not quite. Its a new team of medical experts, who have discredited the old evidence on cause of death in two of the cases. Its called evidence deletion.
The aspect of Evans making up new reports, after the trial which he testified on, makes him an unreliable witness, that's the second point.
Claims!
It?
No evidence of MH? Well, she's never sat for assessments, so there's that. A big statement.😮
Why would she ever have sat for assessments, have you? We`re presumed sane unless we display signs to the contrary. Much like were presumed innocent unless proven otherwise beyond reasonable doubt.
@idi0tdetectioninprogress because everything in life has an opposite, with the same outcome. Extreme helicopter parenting has the same level of emotionally disregulated damage as extreme neglect. Being a nurse, mixing with high functioning adults, Letby would have recognised her traits. Her little girls' adult bedroom was off, just for starters.
Murder, there was a murder?
By Brearey.
A DOCTOR has said claims he has changed his mind over the cause of death for three of Lucy Letby’s victims are “unsubstantiated” and “inaccurate”.
Retired consultant paediatrician Dr Dewi Evans responded to the assertions of Letby’s barrister Mark McDonald, who said the prosecution’s lead medical witness had altered his views on how the infants had died at the Countess of Chester Hospital’s neonatal unit.
Mr McDonald told reporters he was immediately seeking permission from the Court of Appeal to relook at her case on the grounds that Dr Evans is “not a reliable expert” and the former nurse’s convictions for murder and attempted murder are unsafe.
On Tuesday, Dr Evans said: “Mr Mark McDonald’s observations regarding my evidence is unsubstantiated, unfounded, inaccurate.
Guilty. End of
Thanks for your intelligent and interesting insight. Well done
@@FilmNavit doesn’t take an IQ>40 to come to the conclusion that she’s guilty. Concentrate on your own intelligence 😂
@@FilmNavif she wasn’t white no one would be talking about her possibly being innocent after being found guilty to this extent. But yeah by all means her written confessions and all the circumstantial evidence throw it out the window and free the baby killer 😂 So yes OPs comment was intelligent.
Not guilty end of
That's what I think of Stephen Brearey. He's an evil scumbag.
She's gonna get away with it 😁
Well she did not do it
She gonna get away with it ha😂 she's got 15 life orders n she's gonna get away with it 😂 she had 2 trails found Guilty 2 appeals refused n she's gonna get away with it 😂 Go give ur head wobble Mcdonald is doing this in vain she's not going ne where Thanks 2 justice catching up with her she thought she'd got away with it monster u deserve all you're got coming g 2 you letby more n more charges time will tell pathological liar she is but couldn't get away with her lies ne more got ripped 2 pieces when she took the stand 😂 n people think this things innocent frightening how some humans r sooooo stupid n gullible they believe n e thing their told or hear
Your personal opinion is diminished by your infantile imoji
Please people this ist new evidence his doing this in vain lucy letby is Guilty as sin so u crack on Mark wasting ur breath this monster can't be helped don't use get it she's a monster we'll see him get her a new trail not let her rot
Stephen "Drawer of Doom" Brearey killed Baby O.
@@Relugus
LOL. No he didn't.
Innocent.