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People are buying the 4-Series Gran Coupe over the 3-Series because of its superior exterior aesthetic. It’s way meaner and sportier looking. Also, 4 is higher than 3. People wanna flex the 4 over the 3 just instinctively; with or without knowledge on anything else.
Honestly, I was looking into a 3-series wagon, but the problem is that those only get the inline 4 in the US. Now I'm strongly considering the gran coupe just because I occasionally find that, while the cargo space of a 3-series sedan is big enough to accommodate most everything I want to transport, the actual opening into it is not...and I want an inline 6, both for the extra power and the fact that they tend to be BMW's more reliable engines.
Was in the market for a new car and wasn't even looking at BMWs until I saw the 435i Gran coupe and fell in love with it. Bought it that day. for reference I'm 5-10 and weigh about 275 and I fit in at just fine both front and back.
Just bought one today. At 5-11 185”, there’s a shit ton of room front and back for me. But considering it’s amazing trunk and more-than-large-enough back row space, it’s a way better family car than the standard 3 series. The improved styling is just the icing on the cake!
The 3 and 4 interiors are virtually identical. The 4 in this video has the digital dash and the 3 in this video has the fake wood trim....but if the had the same gauge cluster and interior trim colour, I doubt you could tell the difference.
The boost in trunk space on the gran coupe is a significant advantage over the 3 series. It's around 46 cubic feet of space with seats down and that gets you close to CUV territory. Anyone who has owned a hatchback can understand the value of the design over a sedan layout. Also, most people are under 6 feet tall, so even though you lose a bit of head room over the 3 series, this car is a much more practical car for people that need flexibility when hauling their goods.
I just bought a 4 gran coupe. I'm 6' tall and still have some entry room in the front. Back is ok. It was a bit more expensive, but it's just a much better looking car... I wanted a coupe but hated having to deal with two doors in my last car. This solved both these problems. Plus its a hatch..? I was just so much more impressed than an ordinary sedan 3.
I bought the GC about a year ago. We were looking at the 3-series and the C Merc too, but the looks of the GC was thing we fell for. It sure is fun to drive and handles well too! Hatchback suits our needs, that's one of the reasons... But the looks!
Thanks for the comparison! Nice job! I always wondered why BMW would build and market two almost identical cars, but the video shows more significant differences than you seem to appreciate, in my opinion. I see a lot of exterior design differences. I saw one review that said the only panel the cars share is the hood, and I think the rest of the exterior shows in a more aggressive and sleek look in the 4 series. The 3 series is just more conservative (albeit with much better seating). I just ordered a 2020 440i coupe, which presents an even a more aggressive stance over the conservative 3 series and the 4 series GC. I also ordered a manual transmission, which is what brought me to the 440i coupe in the first place. We need more manuals!!!!
Congrats on the purchase! We just wrapped up a week in the 2020 M4 Cabriolet and I found the interior seating position to be seriously good, overall everything about the way the 4 Series Coupé works is well engineered. Enjoy it once it arrives!
3 series is a fleet car for police or corporate fleets, it's a Passat, C Class competitior nothing more. 4 series is for people who want a cool personal car.
I was fanboying over the amazing looks of the 4 series with the m sport package for the last few months and came really close to buying it, but you helped me decide not to go for either of those two cars. Problem: I'm 194 cm or almost 6'4 and I intended to use it as a daily driver, so the lack of space could be very problematic for me. Think I'll just go for the 5 series instead. Thank you again for this amazing review!
Double check how you fit in the 5 Series, I find all the current executive cars have a weird seating position, where it doesn’t feel that much bigger than the compact cars.
I drove the 3 and hated it. It felt cheaper than I wanted it to be. And it felt like a sedan... I hated how low the floors were when I sat in it, where-as the 4 felt more sporty and what most people call on here “sexy.” It feels more like a sports car that is more adaptable over the 3. I am 6’1 and sit fine in the front and back of my 4 series gran coupe. The interiors look identical however the feel is definitely different to me. The seats in the back are designed differently as well. The exteriors look completely different except for the headlights, kidney grills, and the design in the taillights. Even though the specs between the 30’s are the same, I am glad I purchased the 4.
Thanks for the great comparisson video! Answers to your 2 questions: 1) you have less room in the coupe due to the lower roofline which is directly pressing on your head, but also makes you move the front seat lower and more to the back, so less leg room. 2) People are buying it mostly for the boot opening. This is how I am looking at this car now and it didn't even exist much for me before seeing it's a hatchback.
Glad you liked it, thanks! That rear opening trunk on the 4 series is a definite win for me too, provides a lot of extra space to get larger items in with ease.
We have a 2016 428i GC and I love it. The coupe looks way better than the 3 and I believe it’s more practical from a cargo perspective. The lift gate means I can squeeze awkward or larger objects than I’d ever get into a 3 sedan. I’m 6’3” too and no issues driving or in passenger seat. I wouldn’t want to be in the back though.
Glad you liked it, and awesome that it helped you pick the one you wanted! It’s a video I’ve wanted to do ever since the 4 Series Gran Coupé was launched.
I think both of these will be very popular in the resale market, one of the reasons we still wanted to film the F30 now despite the G20 overshadowing it.
The gran coupe looks soo much better. The slimmer grill, the front fender vents, the front spoiler, the frameless windows, the side profile while only minor in my opinion does look better. All these with the practicality of the hatch. F36 everyday of the week for me. Only downside is the extra coin. My current dream car is a F36 340i
I Have a 2019 / 20 BMW 430 X drive Gran Coupe, I am 6 ft tall, the car has excellent leg room..its really cool BUT at my age (very athletic..early 70s) you have to bend a lot to get in as it sits so low..but well worth it..For a 4 cyl it flies with its 8 speed auto. Nice car
Well done, Nile. Extremely informative. I haven't subscribed to Car and Driver in, at least, ten years. As a result, it's hard for me to stay on top of the variations of some car lines, particularly BMW. I rely on your videos to clear up these murky waters for me. And, I love watching the classic car reviews, too. Nothing like being able to scratch the old nostalgia bone now and then. :-)
Thanks, I really appreciate hearing that! We're hoping we can do more of the classic stuff in 2019, the few episodes we filmed in spring ended up doing very well, but the two recent ones not so much. Either way we're going to see what we can make happen in April!
I had a 5 series last time, but was always plagued with the fixed rear seats. Sometimes I feel like I need an SUV, but I definitely don't want to drive one. I'm 5'10" and weigh 180, so the 4 series is a great fir for me. I sat in the back, just to see what it's like, and I fit back there too, even behind my seat set to my driving position. It's a 3 series on the bottom, but the green house looks way better. The whole package does really well in the looks department with the right wheels and color combo. My car has 19's, all the options - including HUD, Harman Kardon, NAV and all the safety gear. My 5 series had a stock stereo (which was still great) and didn't have comfort access or the HUD. It was bigger and had a V6, but I still like the 4 series better overall. If you're not big or tall, the drawbacks of this model don't matter, and the bonuses are really nice. Looks great, you can fit a bunch of stuff in it if you have to, it's nimble, and did I mention that it looks great?
It’s called accents, just cause Americans don’t pronounce every word the exact same as you doesn’t mean they are saying it wrong. Simply a different accent.
Best way to choose between the 3 and the 4: If you need to drive people around that sit in the back seat often then go with the 3. If you don't drive people around at all or rarely use the back seat then go with the 4.
I can appreciate the (very) small differences, but I still don't think they justify having an entirely separate model line. BMW has gone crazy with the lineups and it makes each product a less unique as a result. You could combine elements of both the 3 and 4 and sell it as the 3. I would have updated the F30 3-series to have more of the sportback look offered in the 4, and then diversify with particular trims
It's insane how many vehicles BMW has in their lineup now. I bet if you told their management team 25 years ago that in 2020 BMW would have 8 different nameplates for cars, 7 for their SUVs, two electrics, a roadster, they'd laugh at you. Here in Canada they sell 22 'different' cars, not including the M vehicles they list as separate cars.
14:03 Thanks for this - you helped make up my mind! Keep squeezing yourself into cars please, it gives a more realistic idea of space & comfort than most reviews. Would also be helpful to see ingress & egress...
PRN_TestDrive Overall, I do, but I have minor quibbles like anyone else. I dislike that the size keeps growing since the 3 is now the size of older 5’s without anything smaller to properly take its place, but they have kept the overall proportions the same. I don’t like the changes to the side body crease lines, they don’t seem to flow as well. I think the more geometric look is OK, but it lacks the elegance you find in the curves of the E46’s and E90’s.
I got the 430i 2 door. No contest on the looks as the 2 door is the best looking by far. In terms of practicality it's not bad either, I get a 180cm plasterboard in the boot when the rear seats are folded down. And the boot size is 445 litres which is just 35 litres less than the 3-series. I do not regret getting the car and enjoy every mile driving it. I have owned it for 18 months and it's been faultless so far, as I would expect. Would of course love the 440, but the cost of fuel makes the 430 more acceptable. And it's more than fast enough.
The thing is that the 4 series looks better . I owned two 3 series and now I drive the 4 , I remember back in 2014 when I first saw it , I fell in love and ended up trading the 328 for the 430 I...too sexy imo
4 series look so much nicer, but dont like the blue. In my opinion the 4 series looks best in silver or grey...👌🏻 so much classier than the 3 series Also great review, thanks
Thanks for this! Was wondering about the difference. I am 6ft, 210 lbs and I love the 4 series! 3 series is kinda basic but thx for pointing out the headroom!
I'm pretty sure the hatch style trunk on the 4 series is the big seller and why people are buying them. I'm debating getting a 4 series over a 3 series because of the massive trunk and versatility it provides like a hatchback
There's definitely that factor! Unlike some of the Coupe style SUVs that only make the vehicles less functional, something like the 4 Series takes an already-functional design and enhances it slightly.
I don’t understand 1 thing why the 4 series is with those headlights.if im correct the lci starts frim 2017 and it has the new bmw angel eyes that are not full circles ?
I bought the F36 4 Gran Coupe just because it looks better In my opinion , got M performance parts fitted with 20 inch Rotiform wheels and its looking so mean. Glad I bought it instead of the F32
Great video! Also a question: I want to buy a new car and cant choose between these to cars. With my budget (20k-25k) i can buy a 3 serie sedan from 2017/2018 or a 4 serie gran coupe from 2014/2015. I do like the 4 serie gran coupe more as it looks a bit more sporty. I want to keep the car for like 6-8 years. Which one do you advice? Hope you can help me out.
You commented that the front ends look the same. To my eyes, they are very different. 4 series has a longer hood, nose is more tapered, kidney grille has different geometry. Also I’m 6’3” and drive a 2017 340, and I have much more headroom than 1 inch! Lower the seat! I could clearly see from the interior shot that the drivers seat was jacked up. Why complain about headroom when the seat is jacked up? I suspect the 4 series headroom is just fine if the seat is appropriately adjusted for the driver.
Glad you liked it, thanks! Driver seat on both cars were as low as they go, it's something I do immediately before even bothering to get into a car is to put the seat as low as possible and adjust from there, this 3 Series is no different.
It was very detailed review thanks , I owned 2014 328 F30 now I'm driving F36 428 , basically if you are not car guy they look same , but only the hood is common part for both , also interior quality is way better in 4 series . Mileage was better in 3 series because of less weight . The only real advantage for F30 is acceleration , 3 series was damn quick .
One is a hatchback and the other a saloon... BUT... the hatchback looks like a saloon and looks great! I’m falling in love with the 4 series gran coupe, 3 series gran coupe was ugly but this has beautiful lines 👍 gotta get that Msport bumper and steering wheel... couldn’t get it without!
Very detailed comparisons thanks. Im considering the 4 becos of the hatchback type opening. that's super practical. Also no wonder 4 is prettier from the outside. One more minor thing I noticed from your videos is the rear door opening of the 4 is smaller than that of the 3 by quite some margin. another practicality issue i guess.
The doors don't open quite as wide, but with the frameless windows you have the potential of easier entry during the warmer weather if you have the windows down.
Identical. That microscopic difference in weight distribution isn't enough to make a serious difference for daily driving. If anything the 4 GC might have a higher interior cabin noise since the windows don't close quite as flush as you'd get with the sedan's traditional framed windows.
Agreed! I always thought they were the same with tiny changes here and there, in fact I hadn't really bothered looking into the 4GC before this, I had no idea it had the frameless windows or fastback trunk!
It terms of looks I have no idea why people ever mention the c class in the same sentence as a 4 series, the gran coupe is 100 times nicer looking car.
@@PRNTestDrive Great bro. For me it has always been the fear of the unknown when it came to BMW.. reliability issues. However, for the first time, I'm really digging the new 2019 330i and I even called BMW to inquire about their warranties. I have one question, my neighbor has a 2013 5 series M package not sure which one exactly since the badge was removed, she said she uses regular gas which I know can cause some problems at some point.. Is it okay for her to be using regular gas?
The engine wont run as efficiently, I'm not really sure if any long term damage or problems can arise, I know there's a lot of discussion about fuel type online. Every BMW engine I've come across states that some level of premium or mid-grade gas is required as a minimum, and always premium as the recommended.
@@PRNTestDriveThanks for the information.. I hope she is not doing any damage to her engine by using regular gas. I'm definitely looking forward to your 2019 330i review.. can't wait...lol
I'm not sure how you feel the front seat room in the 4-series is lacking. I have a 440i, (which is essentially just the 6-cyliner version of the 430i) and am almost 6'3" and I've got head and leg room to spare? As the matter of fact, if I put my seat in the lowest position, I have to raise it anywhere from an inch, to an inch and a half before I come anywhere close feeling my hair barely brushing the roofline.....and I sit fairly upright. Same goes for leg room. I've still got a good inch to inch and a half left of the seat track by the time I have my seat situated in the most comfortable driving position.
@@PRNTestDrive I agree, but that's a pretty big difference in height and experience? You must have an abnormally long torso and like to control the pedals with your tippy toes? lol
Unfortunately we weren't able to take both of them on the road back to back since the 3 Series was on summer tires, but we do talk about some of the characteristics like weight distribution that might attribute to a slight advantage towards the 4 GC.
@@PRNTestDrive I believe you're the only one that I came across that actually had both vehicles side by side. I'm in the market to get one between those 2 models and you truly have help me select the right one. You're the man and I like the video setup and editing. God bless 🙏
I really appreciate that, thanks! Glad to hear it helped, always a good feeling to know these sorts of comparisons are useful in the real word. Cheers!
@@PRNTestDrive They sure are! We are all looking at the great videos you provide. Thanks for your time as well for replying. You sure support your fan base as well🤗👍
It's the reason I wanted to make this episode happen, ever since the 4 Series Gran Coupé was announced I wanted to know what made a 4 door version of the 2 door version different from the 4 door version it's based off of.
I have a 2018 F32, so I have to say I prefer the F36 (4 series GC) to the F30 (3 series). One other small difference I noted between the two is the shifter. Mine is like the F36 (makes sense). What is different about the F30, and why?
The F30 we had didn’t have the Sport transmission so the shifter was just slightly different. Ideally we would have found an F30 M Sport Edition II also in Estoril Blue with the sport transmission.
4 series does offer "better" styling. That's worth $5k. Of course, I love that you're filming this review of a couple of $60k cars in front of the Dollarama. Makes quite the statement.
Interesting! Maybe more people went with the regular spec 330i so more of those are in the marketplace, whereas most went with the 440i in the 4 Series.
Four years later ... The cockpit experience is completely different. The 430 is much sleeker and sportier than the 330. You feel like you sit a lot lower in the 430 and more reclined. The 330 feels like a family sedan; the 430 feels like a personal sports car. The 330 has gotten boring; the 430 is spectacular.
4 series all the way. As long as the people in the back aren't over 6ft then it's fine. The styling of the 4 is way better. Worlds better. The 3, 5, and 7 are some of the most boring looking cars on the road. A Camry looks more interesting for real. The 4 gc, 8 series, and i8 are objectively the only not ugly things bmw makes. Even the 6 series gc is silly looking, rear side window is too long and doesn't match.
I have a 3 series a d I love it, I drove a 2017 440i gran coupe with the M performance pkg, and I drove a brand new 2020 S4 Audi... Hands down The BMW in my book was a sweeter sounding incredibly responsive transmission and insane passing gear, I love the 440i gran coupe so for us vertically challenged lol, it's a perfect car
I would rather spend the higher price different which car-sellers ask for the 4 series and buy the cheaper 3 series with lot's of options instead of paying a higher price tag just for a "sportier look". For the dayli driving you won`t even notice any difference from these 2 cars. The interior is identical and that's why i took the 3 series back than. For me what makes a car is on the inside. You get bored after 4 - 9 month from the exterior anyway. So better invest the money in good technology with resale value instead of the look.
Glad you liked it, thanks for checking it out! It's always been something we wanted to explore ever since the 3 Series was split with the 4 and the Grand Coupe was added.
No offense...good video and all but... Not sure if you are blind or something but E46 coupe and sedan are not the same up front and back. e90 and e92 are also not the same up front and back. Same Goes for the F series 3er and 4er... They are totally different cars both in front and in the back... You can tell right away which is the 4 series and which is the 3 series the same way you could always tell which 3 series is a coupe and which is a sedan without seeing the side of the car....On all the mentioned e46, e9x and F3x series cars also the headlights and taillights are different they do not fit on one another...
The easiest way to distinguish between the two is -
if you see a good looking 3 series on the road, it is a 4 series.
LOL, there ya go!
That is true....
with exception of that blue 335i sooo goodlooking..
So true !😀
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4 series is the sxiest BMW ever made
After the 8 series fam
@@sagestarzz20 The 2021 4 series is the best looking because its looks like the 8 series minus the land yacht size. But the4 series grill ruined it…
What’s the 4 series m-sport like?
6 2012.
G bOdy style is ugly
People are buying the 4-Series Gran Coupe over the 3-Series because of its superior exterior aesthetic. It’s way meaner and sportier looking.
Also, 4 is higher than 3. People wanna flex the 4 over the 3 just instinctively; with or without knowledge on anything else.
lmao "4 is higher than 3"
Honestly, I was looking into a 3-series wagon, but the problem is that those only get the inline 4 in the US. Now I'm strongly considering the gran coupe just because I occasionally find that, while the cargo space of a 3-series sedan is big enough to accommodate most everything I want to transport, the actual opening into it is not...and I want an inline 6, both for the extra power and the fact that they tend to be BMW's more reliable engines.
Seems to be true even 5 years on.
grand coupe looks so much better
Agreed! It’s subtle, but I like the look of it more.
from inside I like 3 series, but from outside, 4 series is the SEXIEST car BMW ever created
We can't argue with that!
Was in the market for a new car and wasn't even looking at BMWs until I saw the 435i Gran coupe and fell in love with it. Bought it that day. for reference I'm 5-10 and weigh about 275 and I fit in at just fine both front and back.
Gran coupe is one of the best car ever. Very beautiful and sexy. Loving mine to the fullest.
Just bought one today. At 5-11 185”, there’s a shit ton of room front and back for me. But considering it’s amazing trunk and more-than-large-enough back row space, it’s a way better family car than the standard 3 series. The improved styling is just the icing on the cake!
The 3 and 4 interiors are virtually identical. The 4 in this video has the digital dash and the 3 in this video has the fake wood trim....but if the had the same gauge cluster and interior trim colour, I doubt you could tell the difference.
The boost in trunk space on the gran coupe is a significant advantage over the 3 series. It's around 46 cubic feet of space with seats down and that gets you close to CUV territory. Anyone who has owned a hatchback can understand the value of the design over a sedan layout. Also, most people are under 6 feet tall, so even though you lose a bit of head room over the 3 series, this car is a much more practical car for people that need flexibility when hauling their goods.
Definitely true!
The 4 series just have slightly more sporty look over the 3 series which can come off a bit conservative.
Agreed, and it wasn’t until we had both next to each other that we could really see the subtle differences between them.
I’m 6”3 and the 4 series GC is absolutely fine for me
Glad to hear it!
I’ve owned both, at 6’3 the F30 was WAY more roomier for me.
Good to know!
I just bought a 4 gran coupe. I'm 6' tall and still have some entry room in the front. Back is ok. It was a bit more expensive, but it's just a much better looking car... I wanted a coupe but hated having to deal with two doors in my last car. This solved both these problems. Plus its a hatch..? I was just so much more impressed than an ordinary sedan 3.
Glad to hear it, congrats on the purchase!
I'm exactly 6ft as well, looking at the 4GC too. Thanks for your input. Next step will be a test drive
I bought the GC about a year ago. We were looking at the 3-series and the C Merc too, but the looks of the GC was thing we fell for. It sure is fun to drive and handles well too! Hatchback suits our needs, that's one of the reasons... But the looks!
The 4 GC is just a little more aggressive, and we agree the look is just a tad nicer!
How has the ownership been?
6:59 This older 4 Series Gran Coupè is just so beautiful
Fair enough
Thanks for the comparison! Nice job! I always wondered why BMW would build and market two almost identical cars, but the video shows more significant differences than you seem to appreciate, in my opinion. I see a lot of exterior design differences. I saw one review that said the only panel the cars share is the hood, and I think the rest of the exterior shows in a more aggressive and sleek look in the 4 series. The 3 series is just more conservative (albeit with much better seating). I just ordered a 2020 440i coupe, which presents an even a more aggressive stance over the conservative 3 series and the 4 series GC. I also ordered a manual transmission, which is what brought me to the 440i coupe in the first place. We need more manuals!!!!
Congrats on the purchase! We just wrapped up a week in the 2020 M4 Cabriolet and I found the interior seating position to be seriously good, overall everything about the way the 4 Series Coupé works is well engineered. Enjoy it once it arrives!
3 series is a fleet car for police or corporate fleets, it's a Passat, C Class competitior nothing more. 4 series is for people who want a cool personal car.
I was fanboying over the amazing looks of the 4 series with the m sport package for the last few months and came really close to buying it, but you helped me decide not to go for either of those two cars. Problem: I'm 194 cm or almost 6'4 and I intended to use it as a daily driver, so the lack of space could be very problematic for me. Think I'll just go for the 5 series instead.
Thank you again for this amazing review!
Double check how you fit in the 5 Series, I find all the current executive cars have a weird seating position, where it doesn’t feel that much bigger than the compact cars.
I'm 6ft1 and find my 4 series gc incredibly spacious. I could understand if you planned to sit in the back seats that you might struggle though
Fantastic review. I’ve often wondered what the differences are between these two cars and you did a great job explaining it. Keep up the great work
Glad it was helpful!
I drove the 3 and hated it. It felt cheaper than I wanted it to be. And it felt like a sedan... I hated how low the floors were when I sat in it, where-as the 4 felt more sporty and what most people call on here “sexy.” It feels more like a sports car that is more adaptable over the 3. I am 6’1 and sit fine in the front and back of my 4 series gran coupe. The interiors look identical however the feel is definitely different to me. The seats in the back are designed differently as well. The exteriors look completely different except for the headlights, kidney grills, and the design in the taillights. Even though the specs between the 30’s are the same, I am glad I purchased the 4.
Glad to hear that you compared the two yourself and went with the one that worked best for you
4 gran coupe forever. :) just more beautiful, just sexier than the 3's...
Lots of love for the 4 Series!
Thanks for the great comparisson video! Answers to your 2 questions: 1) you have less room in the coupe due to the lower roofline which is directly pressing on your head, but also makes you move the front seat lower and more to the back, so less leg room. 2) People are buying it mostly for the boot opening. This is how I am looking at this car now and it didn't even exist much for me before seeing it's a hatchback.
Glad you liked it, thanks! That rear opening trunk on the 4 series is a definite win for me too, provides a lot of extra space to get larger items in with ease.
We have a 2016 428i GC and I love it. The coupe looks way better than the 3 and I believe it’s more practical from a cargo perspective. The lift gate means I can squeeze awkward or larger objects than I’d ever get into a 3 sedan. I’m 6’3” too and no issues driving or in passenger seat. I wouldn’t want to be in the back though.
Glad to hear it!
Excellent review, video and delivery - This is the comparison I wanted to see to help me decide on the Gran Coupe....
Glad you liked it, and awesome that it helped you pick the one you wanted! It’s a video I’ve wanted to do ever since the 4 Series Gran Coupé was launched.
Always have loved the 4 series and the 3 series
I think both of these will be very popular in the resale market, one of the reasons we still wanted to film the F30 now despite the G20 overshadowing it.
The gran coupe looks soo much better. The slimmer grill, the front fender vents, the front spoiler, the frameless windows, the side profile while only minor in my opinion does look better. All these with the practicality of the hatch.
F36 everyday of the week for me. Only downside is the extra coin.
My current dream car is a F36 340i
Well said! I’m curious to see what the next generation 4 Series will look like.
I Have a 2019 / 20 BMW 430 X drive Gran Coupe, I am 6 ft tall, the car has excellent leg room..its really cool BUT at my age (very athletic..early 70s) you have to bend a lot to get in as it sits so low..but well worth it..For a 4 cyl it flies with its 8 speed auto. Nice car
Thanks for sharing!
Great review, like the snow background , we in the UK England don't get snow anymore
I wish we didn't get as much snow, now that I've moved I'm hoping for a whole lot less of it.
Well done, Nile. Extremely informative. I haven't subscribed to Car and Driver in, at least, ten years. As a result, it's hard for me to stay on top of the variations of some car lines, particularly BMW. I rely on your videos to clear up these murky waters for me. And, I love watching the classic car reviews, too. Nothing like being able to scratch the old nostalgia bone now and then. :-)
Thanks, I really appreciate hearing that! We're hoping we can do more of the classic stuff in 2019, the few episodes we filmed in spring ended up doing very well, but the two recent ones not so much. Either way we're going to see what we can make happen in April!
Couldn't wait to see this one. Thanks Nile
Glad to hear it! We've been wanting to make this video for a long time now.
I had a 5 series last time, but was always plagued with the fixed rear seats. Sometimes I feel like I need an SUV, but I definitely don't want to drive one. I'm 5'10" and weigh 180, so the 4 series is a great fir for me. I sat in the back, just to see what it's like, and I fit back there too, even behind my seat set to my driving position. It's a 3 series on the bottom, but the green house looks way better. The whole package does really well in the looks department with the right wheels and color combo. My car has 19's, all the options - including HUD, Harman Kardon, NAV and all the safety gear. My 5 series had a stock stereo (which was still great) and didn't have comfort access or the HUD. It was bigger and had a V6, but I still like the 4 series better overall. If you're not big or tall, the drawbacks of this model don't matter, and the bonuses are really nice. Looks great, you can fit a bunch of stuff in it if you have to, it's nimble, and did I mention that it looks great?
Hard to go wrong with the 4 series, that’s for sure.
Very informative and clarifying video, i get all the info of the difference btw the two easily with real life idea.
Glad you think so, thanks for checking this one out!
Oh my God could it be? An American who knows how to say the word "coupé"?
Edit: Never mind he's Canadian, I knew it was too good to be true.
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It’s called accents, just cause Americans don’t pronounce every word the exact same as you doesn’t mean they are saying it wrong. Simply a different accent.
@@lamakicker69 ahhhhhh. Accents reflect dialect. Not pronounciation
Best way to choose between the 3 and the 4: If you need to drive people around that sit in the back seat often then go with the 3. If you don't drive people around at all or rarely use the back seat then go with the 4.
Simple way to look at it!
Yup. That's how I went with the 340i. Great car for my lifestyle.
I can appreciate the (very) small differences, but I still don't think they justify having an entirely separate model line. BMW has gone crazy with the lineups and it makes each product a less unique as a result. You could combine elements of both the 3 and 4 and sell it as the 3. I would have updated the F30 3-series to have more of the sportback look offered in the 4, and then diversify with particular trims
It's insane how many vehicles BMW has in their lineup now. I bet if you told their management team 25 years ago that in 2020 BMW would have 8 different nameplates for cars, 7 for their SUVs, two electrics, a roadster, they'd laugh at you. Here in Canada they sell 22 'different' cars, not including the M vehicles they list as separate cars.
14:03 Thanks for this - you helped make up my mind!
Keep squeezing yourself into cars please, it gives a more realistic idea of space & comfort than most reviews.
Would also be helpful to see ingress & egress...
I definitely will!
Design-wise, I prefer how the hofmeister kink flows into the rear doors on the 3, it's perfect to me.
Do you still like the look of the new G20 3 Series?
PRN_TestDrive Overall, I do, but I have minor quibbles like anyone else.
I dislike that the size keeps growing since the 3 is now the size of older 5’s without anything smaller to properly take its place, but they have kept the overall proportions the same.
I don’t like the changes to the side body crease lines, they don’t seem to flow as well.
I think the more geometric look is OK, but it lacks the elegance you find in the curves of the E46’s and E90’s.
Nothing will beat the classic cars, the E46 to me is 3 Series perfection.
Bro that liftback it’s just way better than a regular trunk
Can't go wrong with a substantially more functional trunk!
I would go for the M version no less than that
Fair enough!
I got the 430i 2 door. No contest on the looks as the 2 door is the best looking by far. In terms of practicality it's not bad either, I get a 180cm plasterboard in the boot when the rear seats are folded down. And the boot size is 445 litres which is just 35 litres less than the 3-series. I do not regret getting the car and enjoy every mile driving it. I have owned it for 18 months and it's been faultless so far, as I would expect. Would of course love the 440, but the cost of fuel makes the 430 more acceptable. And it's more than fast enough.
Can't go wrong with that, enjoy it!
The thing is that the 4 series looks better . I owned two 3 series and now I drive the 4 , I remember back in 2014 when I first saw it , I fell in love and ended up trading the 328 for the 430 I...too sexy imo
Glad to hear it!
4 series look so much nicer, but dont like the blue. In my opinion the 4 series looks best in silver or grey...👌🏻 so much classier than the 3 series
Also great review, thanks
Glad you liked the video, thanks!
I like the 4 series front end, but the 3 series back end a little better
Fair enough
Thanks for this! Was wondering about the difference. I am 6ft, 210 lbs and I love the 4 series! 3 series is kinda basic but thx for pointing out the headroom!
Glad to help!
I'm pretty sure the hatch style trunk on the 4 series is the big seller and why people are buying them. I'm debating getting a 4 series over a 3 series because of the massive trunk and versatility it provides like a hatchback
There's definitely that factor! Unlike some of the Coupe style SUVs that only make the vehicles less functional, something like the 4 Series takes an already-functional design and enhances it slightly.
Excellent review. Thank you!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
very good and informative review, exactly what i was looking for, thank you
Glad you liked it, thanks!
I don’t understand 1 thing why the 4 series is with those headlights.if im correct the lci starts frim 2017 and it has the new bmw angel eyes that are not full circles ?
Sometimes BMW updates vehicles a year later than similar models, or versions sold in other markets can be updated before others.
Gran Coupe all the way
Good choice!
Great video buddy amazing review.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!
very detailed and specific, thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
4 gran gang. It’s for petite badass moms with a small child and few friends. All I need is trunk space for hella groceries and tjmaxx hauls.
Facts lol. Motivation to get in shape!
what about home goods
Fair enough
I bought the F36 4 Gran Coupe just because it looks better In my opinion , got M performance parts fitted with 20 inch Rotiform wheels and its looking so mean. Glad I bought it instead of the F32
Glad to hear it!
Does it put a smile in your face when you floor it?
Superb comparison! Looking for info and found all i need in this vid. 435D xdrive stage 2 is the best allround daily
Glad you liked it, thanks!
In Australia we get a German made 4 series and a South African made 3 series and according to Scotty Kilmer always get the German made vehicle!!
Scotty certainly has his opinions.
Great video!
Also a question:
I want to buy a new car and cant choose between these to cars. With my budget (20k-25k) i can buy a 3 serie sedan from 2017/2018 or a 4 serie gran coupe from 2014/2015.
I do like the 4 serie gran coupe more as it looks a bit more sporty. I want to keep the car for like 6-8 years. Which one do you advice?
Hope you can help me out.
You'd probably be better off with the newer one if you can get an extended warranty on it.
great review
Glad you think so, thanks!
Great review man, thanks !
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it! I always wanted to do this comparison.
for a big guy like you, I think 7 series will be perfect
That’s why I own one.
@@PRNTestDrive sweet!
Lol I suppose 😁
Does anybody know if the 2015-2016 model of bmw 418d model has the rear camera parking sensor?
I think it would depend on packaging/options. Wasn't a version we got in North America.
You commented that the front ends look the same. To my eyes, they are very different. 4 series has a longer hood, nose is more tapered, kidney grille has different geometry.
Also I’m 6’3” and drive a 2017 340, and I have much more headroom than 1 inch! Lower the seat! I could clearly see from the interior shot that the drivers seat was jacked up. Why complain about headroom when the seat is jacked up?
I suspect the 4 series headroom is just fine if the seat is appropriately adjusted for the driver.
But great video nonetheless!
Glad you liked it, thanks! Driver seat on both cars were as low as they go, it's something I do immediately before even bothering to get into a car is to put the seat as low as possible and adjust from there, this 3 Series is no different.
Can't get a manual in the Gran Coupe, so it'll be the 3 Series for me for sure.
BMW barely offers manuals for the North American market anymore, I don't think we'll see it offered at all on the next gen 3/4 Series.
Gran coupe is one of the best car ever. Very beautiful and sexy. Loving mine to the fullest. You need to see it in white and red seats 🤩🤩🤩🤩👍🏽
The f32 is even better
Fair enough!
What is the deal witch 3 series gt if we have 4 series gc???
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@@PRNTestDrive hahah exactly. But the funny thing is that Im looking at a 330i gt. I need some trunk space and the 4 coupe seems to small
It was very detailed review thanks , I owned 2014 328 F30 now I'm driving F36 428 , basically if you are not car guy they look same , but only the hood is common part for both , also interior quality is way better in 4 series . Mileage was better in 3 series because of less weight . The only real advantage for F30 is acceleration , 3 series was damn quick .
Glad you liked it, enjoy yours!
One is a hatchback and the other a saloon... BUT... the hatchback looks like a saloon and looks great! I’m falling in love with the 4 series gran coupe, 3 series gran coupe was ugly but this has beautiful lines 👍 gotta get that Msport bumper and steering wheel... couldn’t get it without!
Both are great options!
Very detailed comparisons thanks. Im considering the 4 becos of the hatchback type opening. that's super practical. Also no wonder 4 is prettier from the outside. One more minor thing I noticed from your videos is the rear door opening of the 4 is smaller than that of the 3 by quite some margin. another practicality issue i guess.
The doors don't open quite as wide, but with the frameless windows you have the potential of easier entry during the warmer weather if you have the windows down.
How does the ride and handling between the two compare? Which is more comfortable and silent on the road?
Identical. That microscopic difference in weight distribution isn't enough to make a serious difference for daily driving. If anything the 4 GC might have a higher interior cabin noise since the windows don't close quite as flush as you'd get with the sedan's traditional framed windows.
Thanks mate it’s really hard to tell the difference especially with BMW going with numbers for their cars
Agreed! I always thought they were the same with tiny changes here and there, in fact I hadn't really bothered looking into the 4GC before this, I had no idea it had the frameless windows or fastback trunk!
Short answer: *because the Gran Coupé is a 5 door, not a 4 door*
Fair enough
It terms of looks I have no idea why people ever mention the c class in the same sentence as a 4 series, the gran coupe is 100 times nicer looking car.
Fair enough
wonderful video. subscribed from Italy 🇮🇹
Thank you! Always love hearing from our international viewers.
Very great review..looking forward to the 2019 330i and they said they added more space to the new 3 series which is good.
We're hoping to get it featured soon! The 2019 M340i will be at the Montreal auto show, hopefully they'll add it to the press fleet in the spring.
@@PRNTestDrive Great bro. For me it has always been the fear of the unknown when it came to BMW.. reliability issues. However, for the first time, I'm really digging the new 2019 330i and I even called BMW to inquire about their warranties. I have one question, my neighbor has a 2013 5 series M package not sure which one exactly since the badge was removed, she said she uses regular gas which I know can cause some problems at some point.. Is it okay for her to be using regular gas?
The engine wont run as efficiently, I'm not really sure if any long term damage or problems can arise, I know there's a lot of discussion about fuel type online. Every BMW engine I've come across states that some level of premium or mid-grade gas is required as a minimum, and always premium as the recommended.
@@PRNTestDriveThanks for the information.. I hope she is not doing any damage to her engine by using regular gas. I'm definitely looking forward to your 2019 330i review.. can't wait...lol
Tbh its because of the lights i can the tell difference, i dont think it similar, also by the front grille
Fair enough!
I'm not sure how you feel the front seat room in the 4-series is lacking. I have a 440i, (which is essentially just the 6-cyliner version of the 430i) and am almost 6'3" and I've got head and leg room to spare? As the matter of fact, if I put my seat in the lowest position, I have to raise it anywhere from an inch, to an inch and a half before I come anywhere close feeling my hair barely brushing the roofline.....and I sit fairly upright. Same goes for leg room. I've still got a good inch to inch and a half left of the seat track by the time I have my seat situated in the most comfortable driving position.
Everyone's different 🤷🏻♂️
@@PRNTestDrive I agree, but that's a pretty big difference in height and experience? You must have an abnormally long torso and like to control the pedals with your tippy toes? lol
4-series is wider than a 3-series by about 2 inches and also driver is lower to the ground in the 4-series. Pretty sure about this.
Fair enough
Tie between the Alpina Z4 and the 850 from the 90s as the sexiest all time BMW
Can't go wrong with either! We did do a video on the 850i.
is the 4 series gran coupe heavier than 3 series?
It seems the regular 4 Series Gran Coupé would be lighter, but it appears that an M340i xDrive is lighter by a bit than the M440i xDrive Gran Coupé.
Good review but i am missing comments about how they drive. The GC is lower and more sportier and that makes it a hige difference.
Unfortunately we weren't able to take both of them on the road back to back since the 3 Series was on summer tires, but we do talk about some of the characteristics like weight distribution that might attribute to a slight advantage towards the 4 GC.
This was truly amazing thanks for taking your time and doing this video. God bless 🙏
Glad you liked it, it was something I had on my list to do ever since the 4 Series launched.
@@PRNTestDrive I believe you're the only one that I came across that actually had both vehicles side by side. I'm in the market to get one between those 2 models and you truly have help me select the right one. You're the man and I like the video setup and editing. God bless 🙏
I really appreciate that, thanks! Glad to hear it helped, always a good feeling to know these sorts of comparisons are useful in the real word. Cheers!
@@PRNTestDrive They sure are! We are all looking at the great videos you provide. Thanks for your time as well for replying. You sure support your fan base as well🤗👍
To be honest I'd rather have a F31 over the pair of them, far more practical and seems a little more upmarket.
Can't beat a wagon!
But loses it's sexiness.
Getting the grand coupe, cause I love my E92 328i but always with family & friends, getting in & out the car is a tad annoying lol
Enjoy it!
I’m a bmw guy and I had no idea what the difference is between these two vehicles.
It's the reason I wanted to make this episode happen, ever since the 4 Series Gran Coupé was announced I wanted to know what made a 4 door version of the 2 door version different from the 4 door version it's based off of.
PRN_TestDrive Yes well thank you for taking the time to put it together
Hi nice review. What is your height?
I'm 6 ft/183cm. Hope that helps!
@@PRNTestDrive yes, thank you. I am 176cm. Shall I have issues with touching a roof in 4, what do you think? Front seats and rear?
Very helpful
Glad you think so!
I have a 2018 F32, so I have to say I prefer the F36 (4 series GC) to the F30 (3 series).
One other small difference I noted between the two is the shifter. Mine is like the F36 (makes sense). What is different about the F30, and why?
The F30 we had didn’t have the Sport transmission so the shifter was just slightly different. Ideally we would have found an F30 M Sport Edition II also in Estoril Blue with the sport transmission.
The sports trans doesnt come as part of the sport package?
Which is sportier the 4 series coupe or the 4 series GC?
4 series does offer "better" styling. That's worth $5k. Of course, I love that you're filming this review of a couple of $60k cars in front of the Dollarama. Makes quite the statement.
I'm sure BMW owners aren't above shopping at Dollarama, once you can afford the Rolls Royce you can be snobby about shopping at places like that.
@@PRNTestDrive One of reasons I can afford my BMW's is the fact that I do shop at Dollar stores. :)
I can easily find a 440i for sale on comparison to a 340i and alot cheaper too
Interesting! Maybe more people went with the regular spec 330i so more of those are in the marketplace, whereas most went with the 440i in the 4 Series.
If only there was a m4 gran coupe that would be so sick
I'm surprised BMW hasn't done it yet, considering they sell the M8 GC. Might be a future car they'll introduce.
@@PRNTestDrive they have the M440i now
4 series Gran coupe is an upper model for the 4 series. 3 series sedan is available as a base model so costs much less.
Fair enough
Four years later ... The cockpit experience is completely different. The 430 is much sleeker and sportier than the 330. You feel like you sit a lot lower in the 430 and more reclined. The 330 feels like a family sedan; the 430 feels like a personal sports car. The 330 has gotten boring; the 430 is spectacular.
Fair enough
4 series all the way. As long as the people in the back aren't over 6ft then it's fine. The styling of the 4 is way better. Worlds better. The 3, 5, and 7 are some of the most boring looking cars on the road. A Camry looks more interesting for real. The 4 gc, 8 series, and i8 are objectively the only not ugly things bmw makes. Even the 6 series gc is silly looking, rear side window is too long and doesn't match.
What about the GranTurismos?
yea the 3, 5, 7 series without Ms in front of them are pretty bland looking
Nice vid brotha!
Glad you liked it, thanks!
I have a 3 series a d I love it, I drove a 2017 440i gran coupe with the M performance pkg, and I drove a brand new 2020 S4 Audi... Hands down The BMW in my book was a sweeter sounding incredibly responsive transmission and insane passing gear, I love the 440i gran coupe so for us vertically challenged lol, it's a perfect car
I always thought the S4 was a cool car, until I was introduced to BMW that is. Either one of these that you go with is the right answer!
i think the way you title your videos will make it hard for people to find and to get more views
How so? A lot of the channels I get in my recommended feed don’t even put the model of the car in the title anymore.
I would rather spend the higher price different which car-sellers ask for the 4 series and buy the cheaper 3 series with lot's of options instead of paying a higher price tag just for a "sportier look".
For the dayli driving you won`t even notice any difference from these 2 cars. The interior is identical and that's why i took the 3 series back than. For me what makes a car is on the inside. You get bored after 4 - 9 month from the exterior anyway. So better invest the money in good technology with resale value instead of the look.
We'd take the 3 Series also, just makes more sense for us.
oh man, how can you get Bored with BMW 4 series exterior??? it's seems like man loses his feelings with beauty..
Yup. I bought a 2018 f30 msport and i love it. I wouldve regretted buyin a stock 4series.
In Europe, they sell more wagons. I guess in the US, this is our compromise?
They do sell the 3 Series wagon here, but nowhere near as much as they do in Europe.
@@PRNTestDrive one day the US market will realize that the wagons are a better choice than suv/cuv
Thanks...best video! I now understand what makes the cars different!
Glad you liked it, thanks for checking it out! It's always been something we wanted to explore ever since the 3 Series was split with the 4 and the Grand Coupe was added.
I thought there will be a race at the of the video.
That would be nice, but nontheless good introduce about the cars
Hard to do a race when the same guy filming these episodes is also the one driving the cars. But maybe one day!
If I want speed what do i get 335i or 435i ?
Speed will be basically the same between the two of them. Same engine, same transmission, roughly the same weight.
F30 The Best POWER 🔥🔥
Fair enough
No offense...good video and all but... Not sure if you are blind or something but E46 coupe and sedan are not the same up front and back. e90 and e92 are also not the same up front and back. Same Goes for the F series 3er and 4er... They are totally different cars both in front and in the back... You can tell right away which is the 4 series and which is the 3 series the same way you could always tell which 3 series is a coupe and which is a sedan without seeing the side of the car....On all the mentioned e46, e9x and F3x series cars also the headlights and taillights are different they do not fit on one another...
I'm very blind, yes.
I have a 2020 GC. I thought I was much too practical to fall for a car based on looks. I was so wrong . . .
I hear ya!
The definition of premium cars is framless doors, not the brand.
Fair enough