It's called hybrid fiber here in Norway, I've had it for allmost 10 years, works great:) one cable in to the house from the ISP box/central, which is literally 3m from my house, a splitter inside for TV and internet
@@zac3249 well phone cables have 4 wires (for 2 lines, 2 wires each) and cat5e has 8, but it works with 4 wires just at 100 mbit max speed. The phone cables may be lower standard though so they probably only go 10 mbit. You'll need adapters on each end.
As former cable internet/phone tech support, I would like to add that a small breeze can cause intermittent service. Most of the CMTS at Comcast have half to 2/3 of the modems outside of acceptable signal ranges. I've seen untold thousands of customers with rampant packet loss problems basically getting ignored. #Comcastic
I use MoCA, the modem is connected right where it comes into my home at the splitter in the closet and then it feeds out because I don’t have cable TV.
Former cable guy here, glad to see you mentioned the POE filter. Really important detail most people forget. However, another technical detail is splitters. If their are any cable splitters between the two points than those splitters need to be MoCA compliant. Otherwise, in addition to getting a POE filter, you'll need to buy a MoCA compatible splitter as well.
youre talking about the splitter in the walls? could i just add the splitter to coax cable that comes out in my room and be fine? or do all the other splitters also have to be moca compliant?
I've been using MoCA for about 4 years now, and it really does work great. I have Gigabit fiber, and comparing speed tests from the router and tests from computers on my network, there is practically no difference. It's very stable. Just keep in mind that the advertised 2.5Gb has to handle all the devices on the network. This really hasn't been an issue for me however. I really looking forward to MoCA 3.0 coming out, but it's been coming out for a couple years now, and I still haven't seen any hardware yet.
Yup same here, got PC hooked up via ethernet to one of the Verizon's extenders and getting full Gigabit with no issues at all for last 3 years or so; beats making holes in walls to run ethernet.
I read the designs for the circuits and chips for MoCA 3.0 are there, waiting for someone to pull the trigger and build them. I think they are waiting for MoCA 2.5 speeds to become saturated before release the Moca 3.0 gear.
@@barryrinehart9497 I believe you are confusing MoCA with DOCSIS. The last MOCA spec is 3.0, whereas DOCSIS has a 3.0, 3.1 and a 4.0 spec. (DOCSIS 3.1 being the one which you can buy hardware for.)
If you have coax cables and don't use them anymore, I would say that it is more cost effective to just pass the network cable through the coax conduits and you can even use the old cable to pull the network cables. Much cheaper than buying the moca adapters.
@@coreyalfredson7986 Yep. Some places the coax cables are even attached to the studs in the walls making it impossible to remove without making holes in the walls.
We don't use satellite television anymore (ip tv right now) tv in remote room receives bad wifi signal so it could be nice to replace coax cables with ethernet ones.
Yeah, this is the way to go. I live in an old house with a weird layout. Tried all sorts of super-powered routers, repeaters, etc. The thing that ended up working perfectly was setting up a mesh network with a MoCA backbone, since there was plenty of coaxial cable running through the house. The cost is not prohibitive at all, just get a few goCoax MoCA 2.5 adapters for around $50 each and never worry about it again.
Been using MoCA 2.5 for several years now…very happy with it. Make sure to cap off your used coax outlets…and use a POE filter to keep your network closed.
I'm a Senior Network Engineer, and I use MoCA in my own setup at home. My fiancée's computer is on the second floor, and the easiest way to get wired connectivity to it was simply to leverage MoCA. Even with my enterprise-grade network equipment running the house, MoCA still has its place, especially for residential use!
I have an abundance of coax ports in my house. 2 or 3 per room. I have been using MOCA for 2 years now, with no issues. If you get a cheap adapter though, prepare to scratch your head for a while trying to figure out how it works. I pay for 600mbps, I receive 600-550 over coax on the other side of my house. works great. Had a spectrum Tech replace my modem/router setup, and I explained it to him. He thought I was lying until he saw the results.
In France there is an ISP that sold this technology as “fiber optic internet” they got sued for this and now they selling it as “Fiber optic internet with coaxial termination”
This is called RFoG. It stands for Radio Frequency over Glass. It is delivered to the house over fiber and is converted to coax at the demarcation point.
Fiber to the home is somewhat over hyped. Docsys 4 does 3 Gbps, I doubt the ISP is taking advantage of fiber to do anything more than that. The big advantage of fiber is signal integrity over distance. As a user, I don't care as long as I'm getting the service I pay for. It's up to the network owner to care. Fiber to the home may get you very slightly lower latency if it eliminates a medium conversion. But we're talking about 1-2 ms at most.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Ftth is way more better in term of latency, speed and much importantly you can’t face any form of interference. There is lot of cases where you get really bad internet because someone’s old device is messing up all the signal in a building, I have (and many other people) faced this scenario before. Fiber is better in every aspect.
Being unable to run a wire to one of your rooms hits differently when you know you get 500+ Mb/s over wire but a measly 15Mb/s over wireless because all your neighbours spam the entire 2.4GHz band with their 60+ routers...
if u're not really far (like 3 rooms apart) from the router, u can upgrade ur router to a Wifi 6 one, it will use wifi 6 or wifi 5 that is faster and has more bandwidth than the 2.4Ghz band (it needs ur PC wifi receiver to support it too), my ethernet is 1Gbps and i get like 700Mbps on wifi with that, but playing it with ethernet cable / moca is always better, less latency and more stability, if u're really really far then u can use wall plug, the problem with that is u'll only get 1/5 of the ethernet speed but it works when ur wifi signal is too low
@@あなた以外の誰でもない 2.4ghz works better over long distances vs 5ghz, the 2.4ghz wavelength is just more capable of going through walls and the air. If the network band is completely saturated your best shot would be 2.4ghz for a chance at it working *I know nothing and this is probably incorrect but it’s my guess
It's crazy how much I always still end up learning about things from you guys. I've known about MoCA for awhile, and powerline adapters for ever, but still, the way you guys present the information is just fantastic.
Used MoCA to get reliable internet to another room in my parent's 3 story house. I tried a power adapter first, but the adapters couldn't get on the same circuit so the speeds were bad. Their ISP's modem had MoCA built in, so I just needed one adapter and the speeds were exactly as the ISP advertised for them. Great solution.
This has been on my to do list for years and finally getting to it this weekend. My house isn’t wood but poured concrete, cmu, and not a standard metal stud and backer board. Miserable range with wifi 6 and everything on wireless. No ethernet in my 1935 home, but someone did run coax through my ductwork...so here we are. Fingers crossed!
I work for a cable company and this is a great tech. I would recommend isolating the lines you use for the MoCA network from the coax coming in from your ISP. A coax toner can be very helpful to locate what line goes where.
All good stuff, I'd add that if you are using cable splitters to send the MoCa to multiple locations, it's a good idea to pick up splitters rated for MoCa. It operates higher than 1GHz and most cable companies don't utilize frequencies that high and have no reason to invest in splitters rated to handle it. Also some MoCa splitters have the filter built-in on the input leg.
Buying used MoCA adapters was just as cheap or cheaper than new outdoor-rated cat6e, but without all the labor of replacing 200+ feet of coax with ethernet.
MoCA 3.0 is supposed to bring 10gbps, a major upgrade from MoCA 2.5 which had max speeds of 2.5gbps. Manufacturers have just not released consumer hardware for MoCA 3.0 since the standard preview was released in 2021.
I have used MoCA for my Mesh network Backhaul for a couple of years now, and it is an awesome way to reduce Wi-Fi usage and improve Wi-Fi speeds. Highly recommended!
The original Ethernet cable required you to drill into the coax cable to attach your drop cord. Next version looked like the coax used by the cable company cable you're showing here, but had a different resistance, One was 50 ohm and the other was 75, using the wrong cable usually worked, but only over shorter distances. However the RJ-45 cable that came next was already found in a lot of businesses and used to originally carry 4 phone lines, each pair carried a different phone call. You have a call on line 3.
MoCA has a couple downsides aside from cost, from my experience deploying them as an ISP employee. Coaxial cable is susceptible to becoming waterlogged if cables run outdoors at any point, which is particularly common in mobile homes but does happen fairly often in other structures built prior to the 90s. Older coaxial cabling in particular is also very likely to be of subpar quality, which will negatively impact bandwidth and packet loss rates. Bandwidth between MoCA adapters is also shared, so you *might* get the full advertised bandwidth between two units, but if you deploy a lot of them, your speeds will drop precipitously! I've also found that a lot of models of adapter are very susceptible to power fluctuations, and will simply die if there's a power surge, and be an expensive replacement.
I've used MoCA devices in the past. They do work and like any network if set up correctly they'll perform well. There's still no true best solution but this is worth a shot depending on the size of your home.
20 years ago it was common way to use coaxial cable already build in your house for broadband connection. So fibre to one point and then spread it to every room via already build in coaxial network in your house. It was much cheaper than to build from scrach ethernet network in yor house/apartment block 30 years ago.
Ive been using these for years. They are great, totally solid i dont even have to think about them. I want to upgrade to the 2.5gbpa ones but with not causing any issues i just cant justify the cost (eapecially as I'd also have to replace the switches and possibly some of the cables in the house whilst not having gb internet)
I researched and thought about using MoCA in the past in an apartment. The cost to get that set up drove me a way. When I bought my house, I went all double CAT6 cables to each room. Well worth the $100, and then some cables to spare.
When we switched from coax to fiber, we had to move the router from my room to the hallway, and now I'm stuck with Wi-Fi. I came across this solution, but once I saw the prices, I just said no and continue to use Wi-Fi.
I live in the US, and I have only ever had this after DSL faded out. Comcast, which is the only company my mom ever used and the one I currently use, uses this if they aren't using the modern fiber. I currently have MoCA in my apartment. I've never had any issues with this. I've tried other companies and had terrible experiences. I get about 800mbps here in my apartment on the wire, and about 350mbps over wifi on my phone. I'm not complaining. Everything sends, downloads, and just works. Being close to Denver, most of the servers for games I play ping at less than 30ms.
I moved recently and had to use moca bridges, as this town house is not wired with twisted pair, but IS wired with coax. The big difference between power line and moca is that moca actually gets you the speeds they advertise. I use 2.5Gb Moca to Ethernet, and I get line speed.
If you check out your house's framing, you might see, in some cases, that it's actually pretty easy to run ethernet cable from some "server room" in your house. In my house, I can easily get a cable to any interior wall on the upper floor through the attic. The basement is kind of a puzzle though.
I've done a few "stealth" Ethernet runs through air vents and old blanking panels. Cost way less and I ripped it out when moved. (Especially if you can get in to the rental attic) They should do a video of doing a no cutting walls install of Ethernet in an employee apartment. Tons of fun.
I just bought an Actiontec Moca WiFi adapter to do that very thing. I just switched on the moca interface on the Xfinity router. So I only need the endpoint. I also have a moca point to point link without any other signals or devices to re-purpose an old long RG-59 run into something more useful. It's quite handy.
When Spectrum increased their data speeds a lot of people started having trouble with their cable TV because they needed a filter, but when ever they sent out a tech, the tech never seemed to carry them on their truck.
If you have dark coax, as in, no service on it, I suggest G.hn adapters over MoCA. Generally better performance and much much better uptime in my experience (also 2.5G speeds).
I do know that Dish Network in the US uses MoCA for the link between their Hopper DVRs/tuners and their Joey thin clients. However I do think that you can still use MoCA possibly, and I think the hopper even acts as a gateway possibly for your MoCA adapters
Used moca at my old place to the 2nd AP for better coverage. Worked really well with my outdoor antenna and amp. My isp is FTTH so it was really controlled setup. Directv uses Moca but in a different frequency range for their whole home dvr service, think TiVo did the same at one point.
I used MoCA as a single point to point on opposite sides of the house and then an ethernet switch and access point for one side. It was cheaper and more practical than running multiple ethernet lines through out the whole house. I even used the old coax cables from when we had cable tv. However, I have heard of increasing problems with regular coax getting a lot of interference with the increasing noise from electronics and wireless signals. I will probably use quad shielded cables in the future especially since running conduit is expensive.
I'm using MoCA adapter with the latest 2.5GB version. I recently upgraded my switch with 2.5GB. Using both 1GB ethernet port on my Synology DS920+, I'm now transferring the files from PC to NAS with consistent speed of over 200+ MB/s. Previously, it'll only do 100+ MB/s.
MoCA adapters is how I get a wired connection from my router to my gaming rig. They are a god send compared to powerline adapters. Every room in my house was wired for Coax and I was able to isolate the coax cable my my room to one that wasn't being used from a previous satellite installation to have a direct connection using just one barrel adapter. Speeds are excellent and offer more than what my ISP provides and it only adds about 2-3ms of latency to any connection. Not bad.
Powerline Extenders are a DISASTER for HF radio communications. Those awful things can wipe out nearby radio services, including ham radio. They SUCK. How the FCC allowed these things to exist, given their huge interference potential, is amazing. Use MoCA if you can.
@noredine no, they are the exact same thing. They use broadband, relatively unfiltered signals across the HF radio bands to transmit your ethernet over the Powerline wiring.
and their speed is horrendous too, i remember using 300Mbps internet back then, but only could get 50Mbps with the powerline extender. and the wifi extender also sucks cuz it always disconnect and restart itself on the middle of the match due to overheating, terrible products
YES, powerline sucks. My friend had to talk repeatedly to their neighbors in the same building to finally stop using these adapters. Reason being that it caused terrible interference on the VDSL wiring, their internet would have insane packet error rates, and would even disconnect entirely at some times.
There's a few potential issues with MoCA. 1. Singal to noise ratio I think is the correct term, might be vice versa. Ultimately, old wires will likely end up with a worse one over time. Depending on how old those coxial cables in the walls are, they might not even be shielded cables. Get them tested through your ISP provider, if you can. Ask them for a signal test on your line going into the house. When the tech rep shows up, just ask them to do a quick test on the coaxial cables in the house too. Ideally with MoCA already attempted to be set up. They'll (likely for my ISP at least) just help ya through the rest and test those lines for you too. The reason this matters, is because there is a range that the SnR needs to be in to operate correctly on a reliable basis. If it isn't, you're going to get some really inconsistent networking. I had mine fixed up, and it's now working basically flawlessly. (Not MoCA setup, to be clear. But it will affect MoCA anyways, because it's the outside line in this case.) 2. You may have many coaxial outlets in the house, but they may not all be connected anywhere except dedicated ports on the other end. Make sure they are connected first, or you're not going to get far with it. 3. Remember, unless you are renting, you could always just buy some decent ethernet cables with extra speed/bandwidth available for the future, and have them run through the house instead. Heck, you can probably just use the coaxial cables you might have to help you snake them through without a hitch. Maybe. Or you can do what we used to do a long time ago when I was a teenager, and run the cables along the walls by stuffing them down into the carpet where it meets the wall and is normally covered by the trim. If we needed the cables to go downstairs, we slipped a few through the air vent's hole by prying it open on the short side. The cover should still fit, if it's a deep enough hole. If not, grab a pair of pliers and give it a similar bend to fit again. Any dangling cables at that point get sent through the drop down ceiling if that's what is installed, or run down to the floor again to hide in the carpet down there. Or the rafter, if you have that going with the support beams for the main floor. Make it work for you. Same deal with going upstairs essentially, but will be a bit trickier due to vent locations now. We just hid it along the corners of the wall/ceiling going upwards, and painted over it after gluing it in place to keep it steady. Sure, you can see the cable run there when you look for it, but otherwise it's kind of out of sight out of mind. Was it a pain in the A. Yeah, a bit. But once it's done, you're not doing it again for a long, long time. And it's all much more easily replaceable when needed than having it in your walls. Let's face it, no one wants to have to tear open their walls. Not just for the cost of it, but also whatever they find they can't leave unfixed.
I didn't expect to see MoCA standard talked about here i still have a few adapters kicking around from dish they still use it for their internet service
MoCA is great. IME, the biggest issue using MoCA is port forwarding for things like a gaming server. It may just be due to my lack of knowledge, but it seems like you need any open ports to be on the native modem/router network to be accessible. If you attempt to go through the MoCAed network, the opened ports are not available. I haven't been able to figure it out.
doesn't sound like a moca problem, what does your network look like? moca is just a layer 1 standard so it won't do anything different to the traffic being sent/received over the network
We are to modern in the netherlands. A lot of houses have no coax anymore. The whole internet here is nowadays only glass fiber so sadly have to run cables across the house
One advantage of moca vs. power line adapters is that in a power outage you can keep your moca network alive with a UPS. (Power line adapters will not work through a UPS. )
MoCA is a great alternative to using wifi or in scenarios where running ethernet isn't an option. Its something that large cable/satellite companies have been using for years to transmit data between cable boxes and modems to IP cable boxes. There's some definite drawbacks though. For the best performance you'll want to have your MoCA network isolated from the outside network. This would entail having dedicated cable lines for the MoCA network. Another drawback is bandwidth is shared between all the nodes on a MoCA network. So while a single "transmitter" at your router can communicate to multiple MoCA "receivers" at the devices they will all share the bandwidth that whatever generation you use provides. It can also be said that due to the large increase in fiber to the home installs and the expansion of frequency ranges used by cable operators that MoCA is being kind of left behind. It unfortunately sits in a frequency range that is becoming increasingly common to be overlapped with OFDM carriers for DOCSIS 3.1 and will very much be overlapped when DOCSIS 4.0 goes out into the wild in either form (FDX or ESD). Many cable operators are abandoning the technology as they're moving to wireless cable boxes or to running ethernet, and as that continues I have a feeling this technology will sadly fade away much like cable cards did.
Depending on how your house is wired, this sometimes isn't possible. My parents house had one coax input from the street, and they just kept using splitter to go from one room to the next. Comcast hated fixing that with an amplifier and then running a brand new cable. This was 10+ years ago when they would actually do that kind of work to fix cabling.
This is AWESOME. My church currently runs a long Ethernet cable from where we do service to where we can use a 5g modem, and replacing the cable every now and then is a pain in the butt, not to mention Ethernet cables can be a little more fragile. Going to this might be a long term solution, thank you!
We bought a 110 year old house with heavy plaster walls back in the spring. While I'd like to upgrade the house to CAT6A over time, I built the in-home network for now by using Screenbeam MoCA adapters like the ones shown in the video to connect the COAX cables that the previous residents used for their DirectTV dish. Pricey for now, but definitely far better and far easier than busting into the walls of every room and running new cables for ethernet!
I have been using internet via coaxial for the last 20 years and no issues. My ISP router is connected directly to the coaxial plug in the wall so no MoCa adapters, 1000/100 👍
I use MoCA as an in between transportation method for my mesh system. Lets the pucks use ethernet backhaul and the wifi runs way better compared to just placing the pucks down and having them connect wirelessly.
speaking of boosting signals, can you maybe, or have you ever talked about boosting reception signals (cellular) for apartments that just don't have reception? is this something that can be DIYed? what's really needed for this?
I live in an apartment building and I first learned about MoCA when my neighbors used it to pause wifi on my devices connected to my network through their network. The routers in my building have to be hooked up to the coax cable to get internet and someone in the building must have been using MoCA. I first noticed the issue when I would randomly get messages from Xfinity about new wired connections to my network despite nothing else getting plugged into my router. I would pause the connection on these devices because I thought the network had been compromised and I assume other people in my building were doing the same to my devices that showed up on their networks. I had to get a MoCA filter for my router and that solved all my issues
This is how Verizons FIOS Extenders work, they arent repeaters or wifi extenders in the normal sense but are actual hardline Extenders With WIFI using the Coax cables in your home, they are basically a secondary router. in Any room that has a Coax cable you can use a MoCA Ethernet Adapter or an Extender/Router to give that room hardline ethernet.
The Moca devices are great. I have a couple made by ScreenBeam 2.5 gig version and looking forward to 10 gig version when it becomes available. There is one thing Linus didn't mention in the video is that there is a max 300 feet limit between moca devices. This shouldn't be an issue for most homeowners. But for whose who are thinking of making long runs between buildings I'd go fiber. Pretty sure Linus will try to prove me wrong. 😅
What most people do not understand is that coax cables if you have cable TV in your place without the converter box ordeal and you had a black-and-white TV back then I don't know if it's still work now, but you could strip the coax cables to its copper wrap the coax cable around the antenna and now you have cable TV on a black-and-white, it was kind of funny but cool
I have seen powerline adapters that support 2 gigabit, it's like 80 bucks for two so they're not cheap. Last I checked a couple years ago, but they definitely work.
Just a FYI: an alternative to MoCa is DeCa (DirecTV's version of MoCa). MoCa is supposed to not interfere with cable TV (but is not compatible with satellite TV). DeCa is compatible with satellite TV but not cable. However if you have a coax installation you are not using, then both MoCa and DeCa work for you. And DeCa adapters are dirt cheap compared to MoCa.
I don't know how it's done in the Great White North, but around here cable internet already includes a filter/splitter to seperate internet and TV signals. Looks like one of those old RF boxes with 1 male in and 3 female outs
I set up a Powerline pair to help move their WiFi router to a more centralized part of their house. They're getting a consistent 800-900 Mbps between local devices and they easily max out their subscribed throughput, no problem. MoCA is cool but unless all of your coax lines merge to a central point (which many don't), it won't work everywhere in the house without some work being done to the cabling demarc first.
My old ISP, after a couple of months signing up for their TV bundle, required MoCHA to continue using the service with a big warning on every TV in the house. Just bought 1 MoCHA box and it "solved" the issue.
with the displayed screenbeam boxes i havent had good connectivity. direct coax line between 2 rooms (3 stories in between), no hub/splitter, no nothing. it worked for a few minutes/hours, then started dropping packets randomly. switched to a german brand (axis) and even though the speed is about 500mbits, i’d rather take that and have stability, then speed and instability
I remember those! When my dad upgraded from Dial Up to DSL in 2008, we got an AT&T modem and DSL filters. Then we moved to digital phone service about 4 years later and those filters became a thing of the past.
You youngsters. I was alive, and more importantly, dealt with the OG Ethernet RG59 standard. Which at the time had a max speed of 10mps. Yeah, slower than what WiFi is today. AND WE LIKED IT!
This is really great information as I had no idea this was a thing. Unfortunately though I only have coax plugs in the living room and nowhere else so I'm stuck with running ethernet cables along my walls Powerline has another disadvantage. Apparently it can cause interference with amateur radio in your neighborhood as it isn't shielded and if somebody has a license and figures out you're the problem they can force you to stop using powerline ethernet
Cable TV is only one TV provider in the UK, the default expectation in a house here is for a roof-mounted aerial for terrestrial broadcasts to pick up DTT (branded Freeview) ever since analogue transmission was switched off in 2012. Edit: If anything, knowing how to transform old phone wiring for anyone who has moved their landline to VoIP and has FTTP service into Ethernet would be much better, as given they're usually daisy-chained its probably not as straightforward as just getting an adapter.
In France, an ISP used to market moCA as fiber technology, they got sued lol
C'était qui mdr ?
@elliottwright8564 c'était SFR
@billal2731 ca m'étonne pas mdr 😂
Numericable :D those pesky lier ! I remember getting into a fight with a friend over this coax not being fiber >
It's called hybrid fiber here in Norway, I've had it for allmost 10 years, works great:) one cable in to the house from the ISP box/central, which is literally 3m from my house, a splitter inside for TV and internet
"Wow! This sounds like a great option!"
*Only has one coax plug in the house*
Well I have 4, for TVs, though two are empty, but I already have 20 Ethernet ports. I guess it was good to do home renovation last decade.
I wonder if I can connect phone ports to ethernet... 🤔
@@zac3249 Yes, that's the setup we have at our 40-year-ish old house. Don't recommend it tho, it's painfully slow.
probably only to get internet...
@@zac3249 well phone cables have 4 wires (for 2 lines, 2 wires each) and cat5e has 8, but it works with 4 wires just at 100 mbit max speed. The phone cables may be lower standard though so they probably only go 10 mbit. You'll need adapters on each end.
As a cable guy I would like to add that some DOCSIS 3.1 modems exposed to MoCA signal will cause intermittence of services.
Linus mentioned adding a filter to the cable modem as well. I don't have this but I am thinking about doing it for peace of mind for the $10 price.
Are you A cable guy or THE Cable Guy?
@@JohnHall73 Those filters block the frequencies that higher speed DOCSIS 3.1 and 4.0 modems use
As former cable internet/phone tech support, I would like to add that a small breeze can cause intermittent service. Most of the CMTS at Comcast have half to 2/3 of the modems outside of acceptable signal ranges. I've seen untold thousands of customers with rampant packet loss problems basically getting ignored. #Comcastic
I use MoCA, the modem is connected right where it comes into my home at the splitter in the closet and then it feeds out because I don’t have cable TV.
Former cable guy here, glad to see you mentioned the POE filter. Really important detail most people forget. However, another technical detail is splitters. If their are any cable splitters between the two points than those splitters need to be MoCA compliant. Otherwise, in addition to getting a POE filter, you'll need to buy a MoCA compatible splitter as well.
youre talking about the splitter in the walls? could i just add the splitter to coax cable that comes out in my room and be fine? or do all the other splitters also have to be moca compliant?
I've been using MoCA for about 4 years now, and it really does work great. I have Gigabit fiber, and comparing speed tests from the router and tests from computers on my network, there is practically no difference. It's very stable. Just keep in mind that the advertised 2.5Gb has to handle all the devices on the network. This really hasn't been an issue for me however. I really looking forward to MoCA 3.0 coming out, but it's been coming out for a couple years now, and I still haven't seen any hardware yet.
Yup same here, got PC hooked up via ethernet to one of the Verizon's extenders and getting full Gigabit with no issues at all for last 3 years or so; beats making holes in walls to run ethernet.
Moca smoka
I read the designs for the circuits and chips for MoCA 3.0 are there, waiting for someone to pull the trigger and build them. I think they are waiting for MoCA 2.5 speeds to become saturated before release the Moca 3.0 gear.
We are actually at 3.1 now
@@barryrinehart9497 I believe you are confusing MoCA with DOCSIS. The last MOCA spec is 3.0, whereas DOCSIS has a 3.0, 3.1 and a 4.0 spec. (DOCSIS 3.1 being the one which you can buy hardware for.)
If you have coax cables and don't use them anymore, I would say that it is more cost effective to just pass the network cable through the coax conduits and you can even use the old cable to pull the network cables. Much cheaper than buying the moca adapters.
Very very few if any coax cables in North America are in conduit. They are drilled through walls studs and attics usually.
@@coreyalfredson7986 Yep. Some places the coax cables are even attached to the studs in the walls making it impossible to remove without making holes in the walls.
Exactly what I did XD
@@coreyalfredson7986 wonder if you could tape the Ethernet cable to the old coax and pull it into the wall while pulling the coax out
We don't use satellite television anymore (ip tv right now) tv in remote room receives bad wifi signal so it could be nice to replace coax cables with ethernet ones.
Linus is the type of guy to make 50 videos upgrading his WiFi and still complain about it being slow
Minus Linus
Yeah, this is the way to go. I live in an old house with a weird layout. Tried all sorts of super-powered routers, repeaters, etc. The thing that ended up working perfectly was setting up a mesh network with a MoCA backbone, since there was plenty of coaxial cable running through the house. The cost is not prohibitive at all, just get a few goCoax MoCA 2.5 adapters for around $50 each and never worry about it again.
Been using MoCA 2.5 for several years now…very happy with it. Make sure to cap off your used coax outlets…and use a POE filter to keep your network closed.
I'm a Senior Network Engineer, and I use MoCA in my own setup at home. My fiancée's computer is on the second floor, and the easiest way to get wired connectivity to it was simply to leverage MoCA.
Even with my enterprise-grade network equipment running the house, MoCA still has its place, especially for residential use!
MOCA adapters have been around for decades and he’s just now figuring this out? LOL 😂
I have an abundance of coax ports in my house. 2 or 3 per room. I have been using MOCA for 2 years now, with no issues. If you get a cheap adapter though, prepare to scratch your head for a while trying to figure out how it works. I pay for 600mbps, I receive 600-550 over coax on the other side of my house. works great. Had a spectrum Tech replace my modem/router setup, and I explained it to him. He thought I was lying until he saw the results.
In France there is an ISP that sold this technology as “fiber optic internet” they got sued for this and now they selling it as “Fiber optic internet with coaxial termination”
It probably sounds like a better deal in French.
This is called RFoG. It stands for Radio Frequency over Glass. It is delivered to the house over fiber and is converted to coax at the demarcation point.
Fiber to the home is somewhat over hyped. Docsys 4 does 3 Gbps, I doubt the ISP is taking advantage of fiber to do anything more than that. The big advantage of fiber is signal integrity over distance. As a user, I don't care as long as I'm getting the service I pay for. It's up to the network owner to care.
Fiber to the home may get you very slightly lower latency if it eliminates a medium conversion. But we're talking about 1-2 ms at most.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Ftth is way more better in term of latency, speed and much importantly you can’t face any form of interference.
There is lot of cases where you get really bad internet because someone’s old device is messing up all the signal in a building, I have (and many other people) faced this scenario before.
Fiber is better in every aspect.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 No it is not, lot of EMF interference can occurs unlike FTTH
Being unable to run a wire to one of your rooms hits differently when you know you get 500+ Mb/s over wire but a measly 15Mb/s over wireless because all your neighbours spam the entire 2.4GHz band with their 60+ routers...
if u're not really far (like 3 rooms apart) from the router, u can upgrade ur router to a Wifi 6 one, it will use wifi 6 or wifi 5 that is faster and has more bandwidth than the 2.4Ghz band (it needs ur PC wifi receiver to support it too), my ethernet is 1Gbps and i get like 700Mbps on wifi with that, but playing it with ethernet cable / moca is always better, less latency and more stability, if u're really really far then u can use wall plug, the problem with that is u'll only get 1/5 of the ethernet speed but it works when ur wifi signal is too low
@@あなた以外の誰でもない I wonder why I would be using 2.4GHz... I wonder.......
@@あなた以外の誰でもない 2.4ghz works better over long distances vs 5ghz, the 2.4ghz wavelength is just more capable of going through walls and the air. If the network band is completely saturated your best shot would be 2.4ghz for a chance at it working
*I know nothing and this is probably incorrect but it’s my guess
Try changing channels or if every channel is saturated force your devices to use 5ghz which has way more channels
Wifi6 uses a different bandwidth.
It's crazy how much I always still end up learning about things from you guys. I've known about MoCA for awhile, and powerline adapters for ever, but still, the way you guys present the information is just fantastic.
Used MoCA to get reliable internet to another room in my parent's 3 story house. I tried a power adapter first, but the adapters couldn't get on the same circuit so the speeds were bad. Their ISP's modem had MoCA built in, so I just needed one adapter and the speeds were exactly as the ISP advertised for them. Great solution.
This has been on my to do list for years and finally getting to it this weekend. My house isn’t wood but poured concrete, cmu, and not a standard metal stud and backer board. Miserable range with wifi 6 and everything on wireless. No ethernet in my 1935 home, but someone did run coax through my ductwork...so here we are. Fingers crossed!
I work for a cable company and this is a great tech. I would recommend isolating the lines you use for the MoCA network from the coax coming in from your ISP. A coax toner can be very helpful to locate what line goes where.
All good stuff, I'd add that if you are using cable splitters to send the MoCa to multiple locations, it's a good idea to pick up splitters rated for MoCa. It operates higher than 1GHz and most cable companies don't utilize frequencies that high and have no reason to invest in splitters rated to handle it. Also some MoCa splitters have the filter built-in on the input leg.
Buying used MoCA adapters was just as cheap or cheaper than new outdoor-rated cat6e, but without all the labor of replacing 200+ feet of coax with ethernet.
You just gave me a token ring flashback.. I'm gonna get a drink.
Does this work if you live in an apartment?
Me, having just watched a video from RetroBytes about Token Ring: :C I understand this now.
Old is new again. The kids these are too young to remember. 😂
What's next? A disk-like storage? Do they know what the "save" icon is?
MoCA 3.0 is supposed to bring 10gbps, a major upgrade from MoCA 2.5 which had max speeds of 2.5gbps. Manufacturers have just not released consumer hardware for MoCA 3.0 since the standard preview was released in 2021.
I have used MoCA for my Mesh network Backhaul for a couple of years now, and it is an awesome way to reduce Wi-Fi usage and improve Wi-Fi speeds. Highly recommended!
I remember setting up coaxial networks decades ago.
The original Ethernet cable required you to drill into the coax cable to attach your drop cord. Next version looked like the coax used by the cable company cable you're showing here, but had a different resistance, One was 50 ohm and the other was 75, using the wrong cable usually worked, but only over shorter distances. However the RJ-45 cable that came next was already found in a lot of businesses and used to originally carry 4 phone lines, each pair carried a different phone call. You have a call on line 3.
MoCA has a couple downsides aside from cost, from my experience deploying them as an ISP employee. Coaxial cable is susceptible to becoming waterlogged if cables run outdoors at any point, which is particularly common in mobile homes but does happen fairly often in other structures built prior to the 90s. Older coaxial cabling in particular is also very likely to be of subpar quality, which will negatively impact bandwidth and packet loss rates. Bandwidth between MoCA adapters is also shared, so you *might* get the full advertised bandwidth between two units, but if you deploy a lot of them, your speeds will drop precipitously! I've also found that a lot of models of adapter are very susceptible to power fluctuations, and will simply die if there's a power surge, and be an expensive replacement.
I actually learned something new today! Thanks guys, I don’t need this but it’s cool that we can reuse old tech to upgrade your houses wiring!
Us 10BASE2 guys would call this old-school
Us 10Base5 guys say get off my lawn
You can always add a whole satellite dish inside your house
really?
Become your own ISP, even make money off selling Internet to people in your country.
@@dylc5604I don't know if it will work, there are many ISP companies already
Whole class is laughing
@@dylc5604wat is bro on lol
I've used MoCA devices in the past.
They do work and like any network if set up correctly they'll perform well. There's still no true best solution but this is worth a shot depending on the size of your home.
1:42 - So, Linus is also stealing from work... That's an inventory sticker right there!
Linus is using a work phone as a prop in a work video! 😧
He is daily driving iphone to review it😂 1:43
Like someone else said, he is daily driving a iPhone. He said it briefly in a video
20 years ago it was common way to use coaxial cable already build in your house for broadband connection. So fibre to one point and then spread it to every room via already build in coaxial network in your house. It was much cheaper than to build from scrach ethernet network in yor house/apartment block 30 years ago.
my apartment's phone line is used with fiber for vdsl
Ive been using these for years. They are great, totally solid i dont even have to think about them. I want to upgrade to the 2.5gbpa ones but with not causing any issues i just cant justify the cost (eapecially as I'd also have to replace the switches and possibly some of the cables in the house whilst not having gb internet)
For a moment I thought that this was going to be a video on 10Base2.
It’s a modern 2500base2
MoCa is amazing. I have three nodes on my network, and use it for wired devices in each location plus the backhaul for mesh WiFi
I researched and thought about using MoCA in the past in an apartment. The cost to get that set up drove me a way. When I bought my house, I went all double CAT6 cables to each room. Well worth the $100, and then some cables to spare.
When we switched from coax to fiber, we had to move the router from my room to the hallway, and now I'm stuck with Wi-Fi. I came across this solution, but once I saw the prices, I just said no and continue to use Wi-Fi.
@@Dac_DT_MKDwhat about flat Ethernet under the carpet or along the ceiling?
@@Nemerson74 No cable allowed to run through the hallway by my parents, period. That's the problem.
@@Dac_DT_MKD rip sorry
I live in the US, and I have only ever had this after DSL faded out. Comcast, which is the only company my mom ever used and the one I currently use, uses this if they aren't using the modern fiber. I currently have MoCA in my apartment. I've never had any issues with this. I've tried other companies and had terrible experiences. I get about 800mbps here in my apartment on the wire, and about 350mbps over wifi on my phone. I'm not complaining. Everything sends, downloads, and just works. Being close to Denver, most of the servers for games I play ping at less than 30ms.
Been using this for about 5 years. Love it
I moved recently and had to use moca bridges, as this town house is not wired with twisted pair, but IS wired with coax. The big difference between power line and moca is that moca actually gets you the speeds they advertise. I use 2.5Gb Moca to Ethernet, and I get line speed.
If you check out your house's framing, you might see, in some cases, that it's actually pretty easy to run ethernet cable from some "server room" in your house. In my house, I can easily get a cable to any interior wall on the upper floor through the attic. The basement is kind of a puzzle though.
I've done a few "stealth" Ethernet runs through air vents and old blanking panels. Cost way less and I ripped it out when moved. (Especially if you can get in to the rental attic) They should do a video of doing a no cutting walls install of Ethernet in an employee apartment. Tons of fun.
This is something Dish Network uses to pass internet from its Hopper to its receivers, very interesting, didn’t know how it worked until now
I just bought an Actiontec Moca WiFi adapter to do that very thing. I just switched on the moca interface on the Xfinity router. So I only need the endpoint. I also have a moca point to point link without any other signals or devices to re-purpose an old long RG-59 run into something more useful. It's quite handy.
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The national internet infrastructure provider in Australia already uses coaxial cables to get high-speed internet into apartment buildings
When Spectrum increased their data speeds a lot of people started having trouble with their cable TV because they needed a filter, but when ever they sent out a tech, the tech never seemed to carry them on their truck.
If you have dark coax, as in, no service on it, I suggest G.hn adapters over MoCA. Generally better performance and much much better uptime in my experience (also 2.5G speeds).
I just used my coax cable as a pull cord for some cat6a cable since there was a coax cable from near my deck to near the router.
I do know that Dish Network in the US uses MoCA for the link between their Hopper DVRs/tuners and their Joey thin clients. However I do think that you can still use MoCA possibly, and I think the hopper even acts as a gateway possibly for your MoCA adapters
Used moca at my old place to the 2nd AP for better coverage. Worked really well with my outdoor antenna and amp. My isp is FTTH so it was really controlled setup. Directv uses Moca but in a different frequency range for their whole home dvr service, think TiVo did the same at one point.
I used MoCA as a single point to point on opposite sides of the house and then an ethernet switch and access point for one side. It was cheaper and more practical than running multiple ethernet lines through out the whole house. I even used the old coax cables from when we had cable tv.
However, I have heard of increasing problems with regular coax getting a lot of interference with the increasing noise from electronics and wireless signals. I will probably use quad shielded cables in the future especially since running conduit is expensive.
in those cases they talk about having cable tv or cable isp and they recommend a poe filter.
I'm using MoCA adapter with the latest 2.5GB version. I recently upgraded my switch with 2.5GB. Using both 1GB ethernet port on my Synology DS920+, I'm now transferring the files from PC to NAS with consistent speed of over 200+ MB/s. Previously, it'll only do 100+ MB/s.
MoCA adapters is how I get a wired connection from my router to my gaming rig. They are a god send compared to powerline adapters. Every room in my house was wired for Coax and I was able to isolate the coax cable my my room to one that wasn't being used from a previous satellite installation to have a direct connection using just one barrel adapter. Speeds are excellent and offer more than what my ISP provides and it only adds about 2-3ms of latency to any connection. Not bad.
Great tips, thank you ! 😎
Excited to do this. Been researching this for a while. Just have to replace my splitters that are moca compatible :)
You learn something new every day 😌 I didn't know you can transfer data over power cable thanks Linus ❤
Powerline Extenders are a DISASTER for HF radio communications. Those awful things can wipe out nearby radio services, including ham radio.
They SUCK. How the FCC allowed these things to exist, given their huge interference potential, is amazing. Use MoCA if you can.
that's different from powerline adapters, no?
@noredine no, they are the exact same thing. They use broadband, relatively unfiltered signals across the HF radio bands to transmit your ethernet over the Powerline wiring.
and their speed is horrendous too, i remember using 300Mbps internet back then, but only could get 50Mbps with the powerline extender. and the wifi extender also sucks cuz it always disconnect and restart itself on the middle of the match due to overheating, terrible products
Interesting intriguing I wonder how effective this interference is
YES, powerline sucks. My friend had to talk repeatedly to their neighbors in the same building to finally stop using these adapters. Reason being that it caused terrible interference on the VDSL wiring, their internet would have insane packet error rates, and would even disconnect entirely at some times.
I like Linus in techquickies. Hosting is definitely his forte.
There's a few potential issues with MoCA.
1. Singal to noise ratio I think is the correct term, might be vice versa. Ultimately, old wires will likely end up with a worse one over time. Depending on how old those coxial cables in the walls are, they might not even be shielded cables. Get them tested through your ISP provider, if you can. Ask them for a signal test on your line going into the house. When the tech rep shows up, just ask them to do a quick test on the coaxial cables in the house too. Ideally with MoCA already attempted to be set up. They'll (likely for my ISP at least) just help ya through the rest and test those lines for you too. The reason this matters, is because there is a range that the SnR needs to be in to operate correctly on a reliable basis. If it isn't, you're going to get some really inconsistent networking. I had mine fixed up, and it's now working basically flawlessly. (Not MoCA setup, to be clear. But it will affect MoCA anyways, because it's the outside line in this case.)
2. You may have many coaxial outlets in the house, but they may not all be connected anywhere except dedicated ports on the other end. Make sure they are connected first, or you're not going to get far with it.
3. Remember, unless you are renting, you could always just buy some decent ethernet cables with extra speed/bandwidth available for the future, and have them run through the house instead. Heck, you can probably just use the coaxial cables you might have to help you snake them through without a hitch. Maybe.
Or you can do what we used to do a long time ago when I was a teenager, and run the cables along the walls by stuffing them down into the carpet where it meets the wall and is normally covered by the trim. If we needed the cables to go downstairs, we slipped a few through the air vent's hole by prying it open on the short side. The cover should still fit, if it's a deep enough hole. If not, grab a pair of pliers and give it a similar bend to fit again. Any dangling cables at that point get sent through the drop down ceiling if that's what is installed, or run down to the floor again to hide in the carpet down there. Or the rafter, if you have that going with the support beams for the main floor. Make it work for you. Same deal with going upstairs essentially, but will be a bit trickier due to vent locations now. We just hid it along the corners of the wall/ceiling going upwards, and painted over it after gluing it in place to keep it steady. Sure, you can see the cable run there when you look for it, but otherwise it's kind of out of sight out of mind.
Was it a pain in the A. Yeah, a bit. But once it's done, you're not doing it again for a long, long time. And it's all much more easily replaceable when needed than having it in your walls. Let's face it, no one wants to have to tear open their walls. Not just for the cost of it, but also whatever they find they can't leave unfixed.
Having a basement where all the coax lines come from is a huge blessing. I'm planning on using the coax lines to fish ethernet to a few rooms.
Can you do a video on fishing replacement wiring through the wall using the existing wiring?
I didn't expect to see MoCA standard talked about here i still have a few adapters kicking around from dish they still use it for their internet service
Really useful tool for using another form of cabling. Thanks.
Dad and I used coax to ad hoc LAN Worms Armageddon when I was a kid around 1999. He worked with cable TV and antennas so it wasn't foreign to him.
I have heard about this but was confused before. This video kinda helped me as I never thought I was supposed to put the poe on the modem side
MoCA is great. IME, the biggest issue using MoCA is port forwarding for things like a gaming server. It may just be due to my lack of knowledge, but it seems like you need any open ports to be on the native modem/router network to be accessible. If you attempt to go through the MoCAed network, the opened ports are not available. I haven't been able to figure it out.
doesn't sound like a moca problem, what does your network look like? moca is just a layer 1 standard so it won't do anything different to the traffic being sent/received over the network
I have been using moca for a while now, got 2 adaptors brand new from ebay for just 45$ and it is so good.
We are to modern in the netherlands. A lot of houses have no coax anymore. The whole internet here is nowadays only glass fiber so sadly have to run cables across the house
One advantage of moca vs. power line adapters is that in a power outage you can keep your moca network alive with a UPS. (Power line adapters will not work through a UPS. )
MoCA is a great alternative to using wifi or in scenarios where running ethernet isn't an option. Its something that large cable/satellite companies have been using for years to transmit data between cable boxes and modems to IP cable boxes. There's some definite drawbacks though. For the best performance you'll want to have your MoCA network isolated from the outside network. This would entail having dedicated cable lines for the MoCA network. Another drawback is bandwidth is shared between all the nodes on a MoCA network. So while a single "transmitter" at your router can communicate to multiple MoCA "receivers" at the devices they will all share the bandwidth that whatever generation you use provides.
It can also be said that due to the large increase in fiber to the home installs and the expansion of frequency ranges used by cable operators that MoCA is being kind of left behind. It unfortunately sits in a frequency range that is becoming increasingly common to be overlapped with OFDM carriers for DOCSIS 3.1 and will very much be overlapped when DOCSIS 4.0 goes out into the wild in either form (FDX or ESD). Many cable operators are abandoning the technology as they're moving to wireless cable boxes or to running ethernet, and as that continues I have a feeling this technology will sadly fade away much like cable cards did.
Depending on how your house is wired, this sometimes isn't possible. My parents house had one coax input from the street, and they just kept using splitter to go from one room to the next. Comcast hated fixing that with an amplifier and then running a brand new cable. This was 10+ years ago when they would actually do that kind of work to fix cabling.
This is AWESOME. My church currently runs a long Ethernet cable from where we do service to where we can use a 5g modem, and replacing the cable every now and then is a pain in the butt, not to mention Ethernet cables can be a little more fragile. Going to this might be a long term solution, thank you!
Why are you having to replace the cable?
We bought a 110 year old house with heavy plaster walls back in the spring. While I'd like to upgrade the house to CAT6A over time, I built the in-home network for now by using Screenbeam MoCA adapters like the ones shown in the video to connect the COAX cables that the previous residents used for their DirectTV dish. Pricey for now, but definitely far better and far easier than busting into the walls of every room and running new cables for ethernet!
"Heavy plaster walls" sounds like reinforced cardboard to a European
@@RegenTonnenEnte lol if only! Talking about actual plaster walls, not drywall or plasterboard here.
I have been using internet via coaxial for the last 20 years and no issues. My ISP router is connected directly to the coaxial plug in the wall so no MoCa adapters, 1000/100 👍
Yes, I assumed that this is how everyone had internet that wasn't from a phone line or satellite lol. Now I don't know what to think or feel lol.
I use MoCA as an in between transportation method for my mesh system. Lets the pucks use ethernet backhaul and the wifi runs way better compared to just placing the pucks down and having them connect wirelessly.
I waited for this video. I can't find any moca adapters though
Amazon Two pack 139. In stock. Same ones he used
you might be more successful in finding adapters when using Wave2 EoC as search terms
speaking of boosting signals, can you maybe, or have you ever talked about boosting reception signals (cellular) for apartments that just don't have reception? is this something that can be DIYed? what's really needed for this?
I live in an apartment building and I first learned about MoCA when my neighbors used it to pause wifi on my devices connected to my network through their network. The routers in my building have to be hooked up to the coax cable to get internet and someone in the building must have been using MoCA. I first noticed the issue when I would randomly get messages from Xfinity about new wired connections to my network despite nothing else getting plugged into my router. I would pause the connection on these devices because I thought the network had been compromised and I assume other people in my building were doing the same to my devices that showed up on their networks. I had to get a MoCA filter for my router and that solved all my issues
This is how Verizons FIOS Extenders work, they arent repeaters or wifi extenders in the normal sense but are actual hardline Extenders With WIFI using the Coax cables in your home, they are basically a secondary router. in Any room that has a Coax cable you can use a MoCA Ethernet Adapter or an Extender/Router to give that room hardline ethernet.
Literally just set up one for myself today, funny timing.
The Moca devices are great. I have a couple made by ScreenBeam 2.5 gig version and looking forward to 10 gig version when it becomes available.
There is one thing Linus didn't mention in the video is that there is a max 300 feet limit between moca devices. This shouldn't be an issue for most homeowners. But for whose who are thinking of making long runs between buildings I'd go fiber. Pretty sure Linus will try to prove me wrong. 😅
What most people do not understand is that coax cables if you have cable TV in your place without the converter box ordeal and you had a black-and-white TV back then I don't know if it's still work now, but you could strip the coax cables to its copper wrap the coax cable around the antenna and now you have cable TV on a black-and-white, it was kind of funny but cool
I have seen powerline adapters that support 2 gigabit, it's like 80 bucks for two so they're not cheap. Last I checked a couple years ago, but they definitely work.
Just a FYI: an alternative to MoCa is DeCa (DirecTV's version of MoCa). MoCa is supposed to not interfere with cable TV (but is not compatible with satellite TV). DeCa is compatible with satellite TV but not cable. However if you have a coax installation you are not using, then both MoCa and DeCa work for you. And DeCa adapters are dirt cheap compared to MoCa.
Thanks for the video!
Moca adapters are great as a wired backhaul for your Wifi Mesh routers.
My service provider uses Coax for internet that plugs into the router. Its great.
Iv been using moca for years. They work great
Ethernet started in 1982 as 10base5 coax cable. 10base-T (T=Twisted pair) didn't become standardized until 1986.
I don't know how it's done in the Great White North, but around here cable internet already includes a filter/splitter to seperate internet and TV signals. Looks like one of those old RF boxes with 1 male in and 3 female outs
I set up a Powerline pair to help move their WiFi router to a more centralized part of their house. They're getting a consistent 800-900 Mbps between local devices and they easily max out their subscribed throughput, no problem. MoCA is cool but unless all of your coax lines merge to a central point (which many don't), it won't work everywhere in the house without some work being done to the cabling demarc first.
My old ISP, after a couple of months signing up for their TV bundle, required MoCHA to continue using the service with a big warning on every TV in the house. Just bought 1 MoCHA box and it "solved" the issue.
I remember using coax or something similar for network usage back in the 90s.
with the displayed screenbeam boxes i havent had good connectivity. direct coax line between 2 rooms (3 stories in between), no hub/splitter, no nothing. it worked for a few minutes/hours, then started dropping packets randomly. switched to a german brand (axis) and even though the speed is about 500mbits, i’d rather take that and have stability, then speed and instability
Filters on signal wires.
Just like when we had ADSL and those filters that were used on phone lines.
I remember those! When my dad upgraded from Dial Up to DSL in 2008, we got an AT&T modem and DSL filters. Then we moved to digital phone service about 4 years later and those filters became a thing of the past.
You youngsters. I was alive, and more importantly, dealt with the OG Ethernet RG59 standard. Which at the time had a max speed of 10mps. Yeah, slower than what WiFi is today. AND WE LIKED IT!
When he was about to thank the sponsor I low key wanted it to be powerline.
i suggest explain about 10Base5, yeah its 80's technology but its interesting from early days of ethernet
This is really great information as I had no idea this was a thing. Unfortunately though I only have coax plugs in the living room and nowhere else so I'm stuck with running ethernet cables along my walls
Powerline has another disadvantage. Apparently it can cause interference with amateur radio in your neighborhood as it isn't shielded and if somebody has a license and figures out you're the problem they can force you to stop using powerline ethernet
The video mentioned access points so MoCA would also work to connect wired backhauls on mesh networks right?
Cable TV is only one TV provider in the UK, the default expectation in a house here is for a roof-mounted aerial for terrestrial broadcasts to pick up DTT (branded Freeview) ever since analogue transmission was switched off in 2012.
Edit: If anything, knowing how to transform old phone wiring for anyone who has moved their landline to VoIP and has FTTP service into Ethernet would be much better, as given they're usually daisy-chained its probably not as straightforward as just getting an adapter.