@@laragara From what I understand, and from what I've watched, it's like this on all of the channels. The video is just a "backdrop," showing you the players involved. It's not the real-time moment that the audio was recorded.
@@laragaraLMAOOOOO...why does that REEEALLY matter?? The only thing that actually matters is the audio. It could be only audio, and it would give us the same information-they are just sitting there 🤷♀️🤷♀️ What is your actual gripe?? Are you just being nitpicky, for no reason 🤔🧐🤭🤦♀️🙉
@laragara Nit picking the way I see it ! Don't watch this channel if little things like that bother you ! It's like going phyco annalize it by a video and audio recording !
She has child like thoughts and behavior. It has nothing to do with her depression or bipolar disorder. She's on disability but I believe that SHE exacerbates the symptoms for attention from Stephan & Maddie. Now she is acting like it for sympathy and to excuse her vile neglect of her SA'd deceased daughter . 😠
I think her “my birthday is tomorrow” reaction shows that Mom is very selfish. She is more worried about herself and her sleep than where Maddie is sleeping. When they tell her that the investigation is officially a homicide investigation she has NO TEARS. Just “mmhmm” 😞
@@MiraculousAngelTarot it's beyond gross and totally unacceptable - how have they got away with this behaviour for so long, without any alarm bells going off, outside the family?? Victims of abuse 'leak' clues hoping someone will notice..poor, beautiful Maddie💔
@_ilikecereal_6821 right! If my 13 year old falls asleep in our bed, my partner, her step dad, will go sleep on the couch. Occasionally we hang out in the bedroom playing on the wii or watching something on the bedroom TV, but of course we are sitting on the bed, door open, clearly playing something like Mario party. We generally always leave the bedroom door open due to cats coming in and out. But if the kid falls asleep in our room, we let them have the bed and will sleep on the couch.
I couldnt believe my ears when she said that the SA was " fine" but didnt believe that he could do something " evil" huh ?? She is not normal , not even ashamed of letting this monster get his claws into her daughter ! Please please charge her ! Please .
Maddie had no chance with a mother like that. Truly unbelievable a mother would hand her precious daughter on a silver platter to this sick piece of crap.
The disgusting monster didn't even bathe , it makes my skin crawl , there's no way he would be sleeping in my bed let alone my child ! The jealousy is his motive as simple as that sounds , it's obvious towards the end of this interview that he's jealous of this child showing interest in boys her own age .
Even if Jen didn't know she was being abused. Allowing your daughter to cuddle and sleep with a grown man (who is not her father) is completely inappropriate. She should be charged on those grounds alone.
I think the mom should do time too. Being messed up on pills is not an excuse for your daughter being ABUSED for 6 or 7 years! As a mom (and just human being) she disgusts me ALMOST as much as her gross whiney boyfriend does 🙄🙄
@@sarahjane8949 I think she may have brought him back specifically to get rid of the evidence and she thought the evidence was a pregnant Maddie. That day was a different routine from every other day ever, for years on end. He had extra locks that didn't allow the door to be opened at all on that bedroom door. She did her best to get people not to look for her missing daughter and when they offered, she said no, she didn't want to waste their time. WHAT???!!!! She deserves life or worse.
Whats actually super SUPER sad, is if you watch the new interview with Stephan Sterns parents (on hidden true crime) they had the NICEST, sweetest and heartwarming things to say about Madi. You'd think her own mother would, but no, the parents of a murd*erer had nicer things to say than her. That says a lot.
And they appeared to know or have assumptions about what was going on….but waited until after he was caught to talk to the police…! Not sure they’re as squeaky clean as they’re trying to appear !
@@saritacruz3020You know what makes me OUTRAGED??? The fact that NOBODY has called her out on the fact that Jen claims Maddie slept with him alone no more than 5 times YET that's not possible because Stephan had HUNDREDS of horrific pictures on his phone of he and Maddie!!!
@sashagarcia6205 i agree with you 💯 the mother knew what he was doing to maddie she ignored it and despised maddie for it thats why in her police interrogations shes so calm because she doesnt give a damn about lil maddie. i hope they charge her like you said she deserves life in prison
I can't say I agree that she knew, I however agree she was possibly jealous of Maddie, do I think life in prison for Jen? Probably not, she should at the least get arrested for child neglect... there's no prove she knew anything just some odd comments which doesn't really prove she knew...
All you hear is me me me, meds meds meds. What about Madeline? Not once have I heard Soto say she loved her daughter, not even a kind word about her. No justice for Madeline until both of them are behind bars. Absolutely disgusting that Jen Soto is walking free.
Yes!!! A mother should protect her child (ren) and she failed miserably! Her actions caused the murder and abuse of Maddie and she needs to suffer the consequences.
Exactly If they were on a trip and went to rent a hotel room with a room with only one bed there's no way I would put my child in the middle that's where I'd be not my baby . 17:59
Exactly. “I watched her like a hawk.” Gimme an effin’ break! This despicable, POS, birthing person makes me sick! She’s just a lying, selfish, self-centered, callous, unemotional empty vessel of a physical being. Used Maddie to keep Stephan in her life. Served her own daughter up on a silver platter to this PFF-File.
So many women are willing to do anything to keep a man, including sacrificing their own kids. It’s beyond disgusting and this “mother” needs to be in jail.
It's GOT TO BE some type of mental illness type of thing not yet fully understood /accepted/researched. And I only believe this because I truly can't imagine the whole thought process in women (especially in this society and etc) being anything logical, understandable and/or sane even. Its absolutely just totally incomprehensible and there really are no words
Children come first! And when it comes to having a partner in the house,no child should know mum or dad has a private life until that new partner has been veted for at least a year. There's so many tragic stories involving children at the mercy of predators in their own home.
@@Jennifer_Layne me either Jennifer? Human garbage if he wanted trash something. Leave Madeline Soto here between the two they took an innocent child life The fact is if for Jennifer Soto bringing Stephan into her home 🏡 Madeline would still be here and have a chance to pursue her dream.
@@djourknows_3496 Exactly 💯 why would you let your daughter sleep with your bf . I would go to prison if I saw my bf / husband in the bed with my 13 year old. There's absolutely NO EXCUSE !!
I dont understand mothers that put boyfriends before I re there kids, They move men in there homes with kids in the house,I lost my partner and I brought my kids up alone & I'm still single, my kids are all in there early 20s now,
She saw evidence of SA and didn't think he'd "done something evil" to her. Excuse you? SAing your daughter, no doubt for years, is the definition of evil. This is making me feel sick!
She 100% knew he was molesting her daughter and I truly believe she either offered her to the boyfriend or she pretended she didn’t see/know what he was doing. THIS WOMAN NEEDS A VERY LONG PRISON TIME. Poor Maddie had no one to protect her.
Especially admitting that she was at home with her all the time and sharing the bed. So when was he taking all those videos and pictures of her while she was sleeping? While you were in bed with them or were they sleeping alone a bunch and you're just a liar. This woman knew what was going on.
When she leans back, puts her hands behind her head, and stretches out like she’s watching her favorite tv show, while just hearing that her bf was assaulting her daughter, it makes me so sick. She needs to go to jail. She knew what he was doing to that little girl.
So Jen you're saying on your daughter's birthday you decided to send her to go to sleep upstairs with your ex-boyfriend send her to prison please. That woman does not deserve to be free
I agree. Her warped belief patterns about what boundaries are appropriate and inappropriate among immediate family members makes her an absolute danger to children and society in general, as she prioritizes her own needs even in the face of children getting horrifically abused right under her nose!
Yeah In his jail call to his father they just released on grizzly’s channel him saying oh I had the shittiest birthday ever like what these are two of the most disgusting ppl ever
She cried the most I’ve ever seen her cry when she remembered her birthday was the next day. What about how Madi’s birthday went? SHE had the worst birthday ever.. smh
The fact that the mom hasn't been charged is outrageous. She offered alibis for her boyfriend without anyone asking, like she knew they would be questioning the phone factory reset. She knew the boyfriend liked to steal from his parents but allows him to sleep with her teen daughter?!
Did she really just say “I know he did these terrible things to her, but nothing evil (like killing her). He did what I saw in the photos, fine, but what if she’s still out here?” I’m appalled and truly have no words for this. How could you let this happen to your baby???
I honestly imagine what would have become of Maddie's Life if she had not met her demise. She likely would have had such extensive trauma associated AS MUCH with her Mother as she did with that monster.
she was kicking and punching his damn hands off of her and was too embarrassed to tell Mom.. I was molested and it fills you with shame.. its something that is really hard to even speak of..RIP dear sweet Maddie 💙
Also why would she would use Michael Jackson as any kind of example with these two low down lying stealing from his parents. Michael Jackson has left behind three children that love and miss and respect their father and King 👑
I havent followed a case since casey Anthony and this one hits so close. My mom allowed her bf to sa me when i was a kid. Thankfully my mom and the abuser are in jail now. I wish maddie had the courage to speak out. This case is so heartbreaking
It wouldn't have helped if Maddie had spoken out. If the mother didn't believe the photo of Maddie dead,. how would she have believed Maddie if she had spoken iut? I believe Maddie knew her mother wouldn't help her and that's why she didn't speak out. She probably thought they'd both kill her if she said anything. I'll think of Maddie tonight and pray she rests in peace,, and that the universe may help her find some justice.
@@HelenODonnell-b9u your comment makes sense to me because I didn't speak out until I was 28 because my mom knew (and I believe Maddie's mom knew) so who was she to tell? I just was saying i wish she had spoke out because it's so sad that she died.
Omg Maddie asked her mom if they could all sleep in the same bed together bc she didn’t want to get abused again!!! I hope she remembers that moment and it haunts her for the rest of her life!!!!
If my daughter were missing and my boyfriend was a suspect, I would be absolutely hysterical. She’s too calm. I’m not seeing any concern about her daughter.
You would be sweeping me up from that interview floor. JS acts like she is there on some missions like to lead cops on a wild goose chase, to figure out how much they know, and taunting them as she describes the murder and the dumping of "the body". She has no concern for her daughter because she already knows her daughter is dead and she figures in her warped mind the child somehow deserved to die. I'm not too sure she didn't participate in the killing of that child that is how super cold she is in this interview.
Such a selfish evil women, she doesn’t deserve to be called “mom” she did nothing but ignore her, see her as a rival which is gross, didn’t protect her. She deserves jail just as much as he does
Imagine being these cops sitting there listening to her justify that she knew what was going on and they were barely ever alone, they are just sitting there thinking.... 17,000 images.
I think that's why she was murdered. Idk if it's in this video but I seen Maddie was texting him pictures of a coin for new parents. Said he should get it for them. I believe she got pregnant the mom found out snapped murdered her and had him get rid of her or she'd go to the police about the abuse.
I strongly believe that the mom knows more than what she’s saying . it’s really sad when you see so many parents. Let these atrocious things happen to their own children. I mean if you don’t like children don’t have any just like if you don’t like animals don’t have any as pets it’s just mind-boggling. Super sad.
I made the conscious decision to stay single until my kids grew up, I didn't trust anyone with my kids. I know a few people who have been abused by "salt of the earth" parents who you would never in a million years think would do something so heinous
Agree! That's why I'm pro choice bc then maybe these monsters wouldnt have the ability to abuse for YEARS and then kill and who really didn't give an F about Maddie excepting using her😭😭
“It wasn’t many times that I allowed her to have a slumber party with him, to sleep with him”. AND SHE ISN’T IN PRISON? What kind of mother allows that even ONE TIME??? She clearly did not care what happened to her own daughter. And I say this as someone who tries not to judge mothers, but this 100% warrants judgement!!
The quiet nod when he’s told the charges tell you everything you need to know. If someone wrongly accuses you of a crime like THAT, I’d imagine someone would be shocked.
So you put your daughter in a bed with a ‘master manipulator’ - her words! This woman is unbelievable. And I don’t see how people think she’s innocent. She knew about the SA, she may not have known about the murder until after the fact but she knows a lot more than she’s sharing. I hope she too is brought to justice.
If that was me I would be hysterical, breaking down, I wouldn't even be myself I would go feral. But here she is looking at most bored and uncomfortable.
Charge Jen too. She is a horrific example of a mother. She knew and did nothing. No one stood up and said NO for Maddie. Breaks my heart. Both of their reactions to her de@th are separately bizzar. His softspoken demaener is a huge red flag. Huge.
'The body"! "Dump the body"! This woman is diabolical. The only emotion she's shown is for her(self) birthday. Even the possible pregnancy didnt get a rise out of her.
Unfortunately; it’s not as uncommon as some people seem to think. SO many cases of mothers offering up their children on a silver platter to these preds, bc having a man is of the utmost importance smh so twisted
It seems she was letting him take over her job so she could sleep or relax or whatever she wanted to do. She was getting a break from her duties as a mom at the cost of her child’s life.
I get bad vibes when she is talking. Like you were the master manipulator, not him. I think there will be a lot more that comes out, with this investigation. The fact the officer has to point out to this lady, that offering him a lawyer was weird as a worried Mom. Is wild! There is so much more to this story.
Exactly, she's has ZERO acting talent. Embarrassing to listen to her performance. It's OBVIOUS she gave Maddie to him and she should be prosecuted along with him.
The entire interview he looked like he wanted to jump over the table. I don’t blame him idk how they do it honestly, imagine having to see those kinds of images and then sit in the room with the perp I wouldn’t be able to do it 😢
There’s absolutely no way possible this “mother” didn’t know what was going on. I blame her more because she should have protected her daughter. As a mother I can’t imagine, it’s the ultimate betrayal.
Jen Soto said "this can't happen often" referring to SS and Maddie watching movies and "having sleepovers" in the spare bedroom. No one should EVERRRRR allow a GROWN MAN TO SLEEP WITH THEIR DUGHTER. She makes me feel SUCH RAGE. And I'm devastated for poor Maddie. She didn't deserve such a horrible mother and what that "man" did.
I think the mom was so into this guy that she knew what was going on but turned a blind eye so he wouldn't leave her. Something tells me that's what was going on.
Dude, the confusion of having ur mom constantly choose your abuser over you! Like her fam didn’t want him at her b-day but mom had him living with them 🤯like really? And even tho she was told and shown the pics of the sxl abuse she was sooo worried about HIS well-being she nagged him to get a lawyer 😱WTF 🤬
Apparently she was around!! in an interview she says she had just started her job. And majority of the time would rest and hang at home until it was time to pick Maddie up from school. She wasn’t working for quite some time
Yeah it is I agree with you!! And I just did the math and it breaks my heart!! These are only the numbers that I know of 5 years of this going on and 1,700 pictures..... • 1700 pictures ÷ 5 years = 340 pictures each year!!! • 340 pictures each year ÷ 12 months = about 28 pictures per month!!! • 28 pictures per month ÷ 4 weeks = about 7 pictures a week!!! • 7 pictures a week ÷ 7 days = 1 picture a day!!!
I hate how Jen s and Stephen sterns always mention how they were "medicated" or in a "medicated fog", like thats socially acceptable and everyone is just walking round high, but its ok its medicated. Like what are you talking about?
She stated that she slept in her normal clothes, not pajamas . That's how drugged out she is . She passes out in her daytime clothes in the upstairs "guest bed."
JS seeing SA photo of her child: 😳 JS talking about the murder of her child: 😳 JS talking about her child: 😒🙄 JS talking about SS: 🥰🥺 JS talking about her bday being ruined: 😫😭😭😔😡
😮😮 why does a 13 year old need 'help' with her nighttime shower routine!!? 13 year olds should be mature enough to babysit on thier own etc... very odd 😮
That's rather ableist language. Mum seems as though she has an intellectual disability as well as some sort of personality disorder - perhaps Maddie had a disability. I hope JS is charged soon - she is worse than him for offering up her child!
I couldn't imagine a detective telling me my daughter was probably dead... I would have lost my mind to the point of complete hysterics and needed to be carried out to a mental institution! They are both disgusting beyond belief!!!
I had an odd nightmare about my 7 yr old grandson a few nights ago and I'm still struggling with it. If something horrible happened to my children or grand children I would lose my mind
This mom was on pills and couldn't even take care of her own daughter.. she needs to be locked up for negligence and child abuse emotional abuse all of the above fr fr wtf man the more I watch the more it gets worse
I think Maddie was their cash cow and they were both living off of the income that came from selling the disgusting material he had on his phone. He was likely selling that stuff on telegram and Jen not only knew but helped him.
The bed off the kitchen that was supposedly maddys “room” that she was never allowed to sleep on is a HUGE red flag for me. Wtf is it there? Seems like a corn set
The mom is a liar and needs to be charged. She said she didn't want them to have "sleep overs" but in reality she forced Maddie to sleep with Sterns when she begged her mom to sleep with her. This woman us disgusting!
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Too darned lazy to synchronise the audio with the visual? We may as well just keep our loyalties to the original channels!
@@laragara From what I understand, and from what I've watched, it's like this on all of the channels. The video is just a "backdrop," showing you the players involved. It's not the real-time moment that the audio was recorded.
@@laragaraLMAOOOOO...why does that REEEALLY matter?? The only thing that actually matters is the audio. It could be only audio, and it would give us the same information-they are just sitting there 🤷♀️🤷♀️
What is your actual gripe?? Are you just being nitpicky, for no reason 🤔🧐🤭🤦♀️🙉
@@danielleterese402 It matters when you want to match the body language with what's being uttered
@laragara
Nit picking the way I see it !
Don't watch this channel if little things like that bother you !
It's like going phyco annalize it by a video and audio recording !
Funny how mom cries the most when she realizes her birthday is tomorrow, yet doesn’t seem to be nearly as sad when talking about Madeline :(
Exactly. Who gaf about a birthday under the circumstances...that's super weird.
She has child like thoughts and behavior. It has nothing to do with her depression or bipolar disorder. She's on disability but I believe that SHE exacerbates the symptoms for attention from Stephan & Maddie. Now she is acting like it for sympathy and to excuse her vile neglect of her SA'd deceased daughter . 😠
She tells more truth than she thinks she does
Or when seeing pictures of her being abused..
I think her “my birthday is tomorrow” reaction shows that Mom is very selfish. She is more worried about herself and her sleep than where Maddie is sleeping. When they tell her that the investigation is officially a homicide investigation she has NO TEARS. Just “mmhmm” 😞
Letting your underage daughter sleep with your GROWN BF MAN is not a ‘slumber party’ 🙄
Him, wearing only underwear and coming out from the shower completely naked🤢🤮
@@MiraculousAngelTarot it's beyond gross and totally unacceptable - how have they got away with this behaviour for so long, without any alarm bells going off, outside the family?? Victims of abuse 'leak' clues hoping someone will notice..poor, beautiful Maddie💔
She knew I think she even participated.
@@nikkiarmstrong3991Exactly.
@_ilikecereal_6821 right! If my 13 year old falls asleep in our bed, my partner, her step dad, will go sleep on the couch.
Occasionally we hang out in the bedroom playing on the wii or watching something on the bedroom TV, but of course we are sitting on the bed, door open, clearly playing something like Mario party.
We generally always leave the bedroom door open due to cats coming in and out. But if the kid falls asleep in our room, we let them have the bed and will sleep on the couch.
I couldnt believe my ears when she said that the SA was " fine" but didnt believe that he could do something " evil" huh ?? She is not normal , not even ashamed of letting this monster get his claws into her daughter ! Please please charge her ! Please .
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Yet she claims ptsd and other issues from her being SA'd as an adult. Maddie was going through it for years and years as a child! Infuriating!!!!!
Maddie had no chance with a mother like that. Truly unbelievable a mother would hand her precious daughter on a silver platter to this sick piece of crap.
Make her take a lie detector test. That would be interesting.
I thought that too! She is in this too! Lock her up!!!
Even her saying “i dont want to believe he killed her” instead of I don’t want to believe she’s dead” is insane to me. She needs to be charged
Right. It’s as if she’s saying that she can’t believe he went through with it.
Soo.. Maddie couldn't have sleepovers with school friends but she could have sleepovers with Stephan??? 😠
Odd
The disgusting monster didn't even bathe , it makes my skin crawl , there's no way he would be sleeping in my bed let alone my child ! The jealousy is his motive as simple as that sounds , it's obvious towards the end of this interview that he's jealous of this child showing interest in boys her own age .
It doesn't make sense
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even if Jen didn't know she was being abused. Allowing your daughter to cuddle and sleep with a grown man (who is not her father) is completely inappropriate. She should be charged on those grounds alone.
No actual father would want to snuggle with their daughter at that age unless they were also abusing her. It's just sick no matter what!!
@@vtw2510 💯 agreed
A kid her age wouldn't be sleeping with her own biological father. It just shouldn't happen. It's not the normal father/teenage daughter relationship.
100% snuggle time🤮 He makes me angry & sick. He thinks telling the cops he's been 'medicated' it gets him away with it @@4amcripple
She knew
I think the mom should do time too. Being messed up on pills is not an excuse for your daughter being ABUSED for 6 or 7 years! As a mom (and just human being) she disgusts me ALMOST as much as her gross whiney boyfriend does 🙄🙄
Seems like her Daughter was a burden for her. Even at this point that mom could care less about her Daughter. She should do some time for neglect.
@@rebellucy6200 I have listened to several hours of interviews and she makes my BLOOD BOIL
The pills thing is a lie anyway. She knew.
Agree!!!
I agree, she must face some punishment for her neglect.
Mom totally knew and chose to ignore. She should be held accountable. Poor Maddie deserved better.
💯 she should get at least 10 years for child neglect
@@sarahjane8949
I think she may have brought him back specifically to get rid of the evidence and she thought the evidence was a pregnant Maddie. That day was a different routine from every other day ever, for years on end. He had extra locks that didn't allow the door to be opened at all on that bedroom door. She did her best to get people not to look for her missing daughter and when they offered, she said no, she didn't want to waste their time. WHAT???!!!! She deserves life or worse.
@@carol-l8u 💯💯💯💯 she was in on it.... she is so detached from maddie it’s shocking , no love for her at all
@cats1900, at the very least, Jennifer was willfully ignorant. Very willfull.
She did not ignore. Mom groomed Maddie in order to keep the disgusting man. She needs a trial of her own
Whats actually super SUPER sad, is if you watch the new interview with Stephan Sterns parents (on hidden true crime) they had the NICEST, sweetest and heartwarming things to say about Madi. You'd think her own mother would, but no, the parents of a murd*erer had nicer things to say than her.
That says a lot.
Well yeah I’m sure they liked their sons gf
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@@lindaarrington9397😂
And they appeared to know or have assumptions about what was going on….but waited until after he was caught to talk to the police…! Not sure they’re as squeaky clean as they’re trying to appear !
She calls it a "slumber party"??!!!! A "slumber party" with a 12yo girl and a 37yo man??!!
"Sleepover" - unbelievable.
@deborahgagen4758 Jen referred to it as a "slumber party" twice - @ 30:30 and 41:16 - as if they're school girl friends that are tge same age.
@@deborahgagen4758 Jen referred to it as a "slumber party" twice - @ 30:30 and 41:16 - as if they're two school girls.
Mom needs to be in trouble
Did he give the mom alot of money wad she selling her kid
The fact she let her daughter sleep in the bed with a grown man tells it all
And then she said that it was OK now but couldn't happen often. Wtf?! Either it's OK or it's not.
What gets me is how they both have normalized it so much that they don't even think how weird it is to anyone outside of their bubble
@@saritacruz3020You know what makes me OUTRAGED??? The fact that NOBODY has called her out on the fact that Jen claims Maddie slept with him alone no more than 5 times YET that's not possible because Stephan had HUNDREDS of horrific pictures on his phone of he and Maddie!!!
The epitome of an evil mother. A covert faking that she cares just a smidgen.
Also it's crazy enough that she slept in the bed with them but the fact that she was in the middle and not the mother really was disgusting.
the mom knew 1000% she was jealous of maddy and ignored the abuse she 100% knew i garantee it . she deserves life in prison
@sashagarcia6205 i agree with you 💯 the mother knew what he was doing to maddie she ignored it and despised maddie for it thats why in her police interrogations shes so calm because she doesnt give a damn about lil maddie. i hope they charge her like you said she deserves life in prison
I agree. Especially with her woody Allen comment.
I don’t think she was jealous..definitely desperate.she should be locked up too
I can't say I agree that she knew, I however agree she was possibly jealous of Maddie, do I think life in prison for Jen? Probably not, she should at the least get arrested for child neglect... there's no prove she knew anything just some odd comments which doesn't really prove she knew...
I TOTALLY AGREE..SHE KNEW AND SHE SHOULD BE LOCKED UP ASAP‼
All you hear is me me me, meds meds meds. What about Madeline? Not once have I heard Soto say she loved her daughter, not even a kind word about her. No justice for Madeline until both of them are behind bars. Absolutely disgusting that Jen Soto is walking free.
100%!
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Jen is one sick mother 🤬😡🤬 I wont say what I really feel about this woman because I be kicked of of her ! I really can’t believe this woman 😡
Yes!!! A mother should protect her child (ren) and she failed miserably! Her actions caused the murder and abuse of Maddie and she needs to suffer the consequences.
@@francineballesteros8832 I'm with you. She's as disgusting as her bf.
If you had an extreme circumstance and HAD to sleep in the same bed, why would you ever put your teen daughter in between you and your partner?
Exactly If they were on a trip and went to rent a hotel room with a room with only one bed there's no way I would put my child in the middle that's where I'd be not my baby . 17:59
@@gail9566 you don't
Exactly. “I watched her like a hawk.” Gimme an effin’ break! This despicable, POS, birthing person makes me sick! She’s just a lying, selfish, self-centered, callous, unemotional empty vessel of a physical being. Used Maddie to keep Stephan in her life. Served her own daughter up on a silver platter to this PFF-File.
So many women are willing to do anything to keep a man, including sacrificing their own kids. It’s beyond disgusting and this “mother” needs to be in jail.
Fr. Her self-esteem was in the trash.
It's GOT TO BE some type of mental illness type of thing not yet fully understood /accepted/researched. And I only believe this because I truly can't imagine the whole thought process in women (especially in this society and etc) being anything logical, understandable and/or sane even. Its absolutely just totally incomprehensible and there really are no words
She'll get away with it like many other trash parents
my mother is sadly the same way it’s disgusting rip maddie
Children come first! And when it comes to having a partner in the house,no child should know mum or dad has a private life until that new partner has been veted for at least a year. There's so many tragic stories involving children at the mercy of predators in their own home.
I’m in utter disbelief right now. Despite seeing the photos of him SA’ing Maddie, she still didn’t believe he was evil. I have no words.
@@Jennifer_Layne me either Jennifer? Human garbage if he wanted trash something. Leave Madeline Soto here between the two they took an innocent child life
The fact is if for Jennifer Soto bringing Stephan into her home 🏡
Madeline would still be here and have a chance to pursue her dream.
because she was in on it, she has to act oblivious if she doesn’t want blame or jail time
@@djourknows_3496 Exactly 💯 why would you let your daughter sleep with your bf . I would go to prison if I saw my bf / husband in the bed with my 13 year old. There's absolutely NO EXCUSE !!
Hello
Why would she ? She was the one telling him to sleep with her. I believe she was involved in the abuse
Perfect example of a mother putting her boyfriend before her precious daughter.
It's so incredibly sad. 😢
What is going through the minds is so baffling. Stop having so much trust in strangers This is your child! U need to protect at all costs
her pills, her precious sleep, prob the dog too... EVERYthing came before Maddie. 😡
narcissistic mothers- borderline mothers - histrionic mothers.
Happens to often
I dont understand mothers that put boyfriends before I re there kids, They move men in there homes with kids in the house,I lost my partner and I brought my kids up alone & I'm still single, my kids are all in there early 20s now,
I've developed a sick feeling for the word *snuggle* all these months.
🤢 word always creeped me out when a grown man uses it. Especially toward children
And the term 'sleepover'. He asks her for a sleover with her Daughter and she thinks they is just kosher.
Yes
I'll never use the word again.
Snuggle slumber party 🤢
She saw evidence of SA and didn't think he'd "done something evil" to her. Excuse you? SAing your daughter, no doubt for years, is the definition of evil. This is making me feel sick!
I start to wonder if they SA Maddie togheter. Or, was Jen the one who took the pictures....?
She 100% knew he was molesting her daughter and I truly believe she either offered her to the boyfriend or she pretended she didn’t see/know what he was doing. THIS WOMAN NEEDS A VERY LONG PRISON TIME. Poor Maddie had no one to protect her.
Especially admitting that she was at home with her all the time and sharing the bed. So when was he taking all those videos and pictures of her while she was sleeping? While you were in bed with them or were they sleeping alone a bunch and you're just a liar.
This woman knew what was going on.
*No, MADDIE had the WORST birthday EVER, Jenn.* 🤢
Seriously that made me sick to my stomach too
Poor Maddie. She didn’t stand a chance with these two 😡.
The mom handed her daughter to him on a silver platter. She was desperate to keep a “man.”
Exactly. Mom is sicker than Stefan
More like to keep a baby boi...
@@katewoolf6059equally sick..they both need to be locked up
agree
@katewoolf6059 no, Stefan is still sicker.
When she leans back, puts her hands behind her head, and stretches out like she’s watching her favorite tv show, while just hearing that her bf was assaulting her daughter, it makes me so sick. She needs to go to jail. She knew what he was doing to that little girl.
Shout out to those detectives for keeping their composure. So insane. RIP Maddie!
They were repulsed I’m sure.
So Jen you're saying on your daughter's birthday you decided to send her to go to sleep upstairs with your ex-boyfriend send her to prison please. That woman does not deserve to be free
Or to breathe
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I agree. Her warped belief patterns about what boundaries are appropriate and inappropriate among immediate family members makes her an absolute danger to children and society in general, as she prioritizes her own needs even in the face of children getting horrifically abused right under her nose!
Maddie had the Worst Birthday Ever...it was by far worse than yours jenn.
YESS!! THANK YOU!! 😢
No joke
Yeah In his jail call to his father they just released on grizzly’s channel him saying oh I had the shittiest birthday ever like what these are two of the most disgusting ppl ever
The SLUG & SLOTH duo is absolutely disgusting and despicable..
@SaltyBuzzard perfect description of them both slug and sloth
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Those are by far the most accurate descriptions of JS and SS.
These descriptions are perfect
That’s their costumes , they are both hungry Wolves 🐺
She cried the most I’ve ever seen her cry when she remembered her birthday was the next day. What about how Madi’s birthday went? SHE had the worst birthday ever.. smh
The fact that the mom hasn't been charged is outrageous. She offered alibis for her boyfriend without anyone asking, like she knew they would be questioning the phone factory reset. She knew the boyfriend liked to steal from his parents but allows him to sleep with her teen daughter?!
Did she really just say “I know he did these terrible things to her, but nothing evil (like killing her). He did what I saw in the photos, fine, but what if she’s still out here?” I’m appalled and truly have no words for this. How could you let this happen to your baby???
Absolutely baffling and shocking but not shocking for jenn Soto as she knew about the SA for years 😡
Yet tge police no charge her that there is baffling
She knew all along She was Ok with it.
She cared about having a man, that's all
I honestly imagine what would have become of Maddie's Life if she had not met her demise. She likely would have had such extensive trauma associated AS MUCH with her Mother as she did with that monster.
Yeah she was 'kicking and punching in her sleep' because she's having nightmares from what this monster did to her on a nightly basis.
I think she was probably just trying to keep her away from her
I think disturbed sleep is a symptom 9f trauma.
she was kicking and punching his damn hands off of her and was too embarrassed to tell Mom.. I was molested and it fills you with shame.. its something that is really hard to even speak of..RIP dear sweet Maddie 💙
@@janetmesserschmidt5888it's worse. The mother knew.
@@mygirldarby she’s so EVIL
She’s complicit. She needs to be prosecuted! Make my blood boil 🤬
Also why would she would use Michael Jackson as any kind of
example with these two low down lying stealing from his parents.
Michael Jackson has left behind three children that love and miss and respect their father and King 👑
I agree.
Trust me you not alone I think we all are extremely upset she was not charged yet 🤬
Spoken like TRUE MOTHERS! Unless poor Maddie’s egg donor😢
So sad that these officers have to sit there calmly while knowing exactly what kind of a person they are dealing with. Very heartbreaking
I havent followed a case since casey Anthony and this one hits so close. My mom allowed her bf to sa me when i was a kid. Thankfully my mom and the abuser are in jail now. I wish maddie had the courage to speak out. This case is so heartbreaking
Sending you love
It wouldn't have helped if Maddie had spoken out. If the mother didn't believe the photo of Maddie dead,. how would she have believed Maddie if she had spoken iut? I believe Maddie knew her mother wouldn't help her and that's why she didn't speak out. She probably thought they'd both kill her if she said anything. I'll think of Maddie tonight and pray she rests in peace,, and that the universe may help her find some justice.
I'm sorry that happened to you , but am glad your aware how wrong that is and would never repeat that cycle of abuse , you rock !
@@HelenODonnell-b9u your comment makes sense to me because I didn't speak out until I was 28 because my mom knew (and I believe Maddie's mom knew) so who was she to tell? I just was saying i wish she had spoke out because it's so sad that she died.
@@HelenODonnell-b9uteachers are mandated reporters. Telling your mom who already knows won't help but telling your teachers would likely help
Omg Maddie asked her mom if they could all sleep in the same bed together bc she didn’t want to get abused again!!! I hope she remembers that moment and it haunts her for the rest of her life!!!!
That is horrific that poor girl. 😓
After she thought she was safe, here he comes, pilled out & ready to cuddle. These are horrible people.
She don't care, she got to walk out of that interview room that day.
She doesn’t care. She only cares about herself. She’s sickening
Wow that just now clicked
Poor Maddie 😞 I’m heartbroken for her.
If my daughter were missing and my boyfriend was a suspect, I would be absolutely hysterical. She’s too calm. I’m not seeing any concern about her daughter.
At some point she is sitting like she is on vacation, resting her arms on her head or the sofa. I cannot believe it.
I'd be in prison for taking justice into my own hands!!
@@doloresleyva8810 me too!
You would be sweeping me up from that interview floor. JS acts like she is there on some missions like to lead cops on a wild goose chase, to figure out how much they know, and taunting them as she describes the murder and the dumping of "the body". She has no concern for her daughter because she already knows her daughter is dead and she figures in her warped mind the child somehow deserved to die. I'm not too sure she didn't participate in the killing of that child that is how super cold she is in this interview.
Snuggle time? At 13? The poor lil girl had no privacy.
Such a selfish evil women, she doesn’t deserve to be called “mom” she did nothing but ignore her, see her as a rival which is gross, didn’t protect her. She deserves jail just as much as he does
Imagine being these cops sitting there listening to her justify that she knew what was going on and they were barely ever alone, they are just sitting there thinking.... 17,000 images.
She kept two pregnancy tests under the sink cupboard! Im thinking those were kept there for her daughter . It wouldnt suprise me 😢
I think that's why she was murdered. Idk if it's in this video but I seen Maddie was texting him pictures of a coin for new parents. Said he should get it for them. I believe she got pregnant the mom found out snapped murdered her and had him get rid of her or she'd go to the police about the abuse.
Zero justice till Jen is charged also
Absolutely!
I strongly believe that the mom knows more than what she’s saying . it’s really sad when you see so many parents. Let these atrocious things happen to their own children. I mean if you don’t like children don’t have any just like if you don’t like animals don’t have any as pets it’s just mind-boggling. Super sad.
Been on my own for 10yrs. No one gets near my kids. No one gets in my home without my presence. No one will ever be left with my kids. 🚫🚫🚫
I made the conscious decision to stay single until my kids grew up, I didn't trust anyone with my kids.
I know a few people who have been abused by "salt of the earth" parents who you would never in a million years think would do something so heinous
I sometimes wonder if Jen was the one who took the pictures of Stephan using Maddie.....
Agree! That's why I'm pro choice bc then maybe these monsters wouldnt have the ability to abuse for YEARS and then kill and who really didn't give an F about Maddie excepting using her😭😭
“It wasn’t many times that I allowed her to have a slumber party with him, to sleep with him”. AND SHE ISN’T IN PRISON? What kind of mother allows that even ONE TIME??? She clearly did not care what happened to her own daughter. And I say this as someone who tries not to judge mothers, but this 100% warrants judgement!!
The quiet nod when he’s told the charges tell you everything you need to know. If someone wrongly accuses you of a crime like THAT, I’d imagine someone would be shocked.
Did she say they wanted to have a "slumber party"? What grown man has a sumber party with a 12 year old? She knew.
So you put your daughter in a bed with a ‘master manipulator’ - her words! This woman is unbelievable. And I don’t see how people think she’s innocent. She knew about the SA, she may not have known about the murder until after the fact but she knows a lot more than she’s sharing. I hope she too is brought to justice.
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I don’t think anyone believes her. She’s a monster.
THE MOM HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
If that was me I would be hysterical, breaking down, I wouldn't even be myself I would go feral. But here she is looking at most bored and uncomfortable.
She knows this was going she's playing dump on perpus
It’s definitely giving she was pimping her kid out..I bet he wasn’t the only one either
That is what I think but it would take SS turning on her or some forensic evidence to prove it.
She had everything to do with it....
Charge Jen too. She is a horrific example of a mother. She knew and did nothing. No one stood up and said NO for Maddie. Breaks my heart. Both of their reactions to her de@th are separately bizzar. His softspoken demaener is a huge red flag. Huge.
Worst birthday ever? No, sweetie, your daughter had the worst birthday.
'The body"! "Dump the body"! This woman is diabolical. The only emotion she's shown is for her(self) birthday. Even the possible pregnancy didnt get a rise out of her.
Bc she knew
I just don’t understand how he had so much unfettered access to this child! Maddie deserved so much better.
Unfortunately; it’s not as uncommon as some people seem to think. SO many cases of mothers offering up their children on a silver platter to these preds, bc having a man is of the utmost importance smh so twisted
He didn’t even have a job!! My heart breaks for Maddie!!😢😢
The mother gave Maddie to him.
It seems she was letting him take over her job so she could sleep or relax or whatever she wanted to do. She was getting a break from her duties as a mom at the cost of her child’s life.
Seems as if she worked and he didn’t so she probably let him watch her tbh
I get bad vibes when she is talking. Like you were the master manipulator, not him. I think there will be a lot more that comes out, with this investigation. The fact the officer has to point out to this lady, that offering him a lawyer was weird as a worried Mom. Is wild! There is so much more to this story.
Exactly, she's has ZERO acting talent. Embarrassing to listen to her performance. It's OBVIOUS she gave Maddie to him and she should be prosecuted along with him.
Exactly, not only do I think she was a manupulator I think she was the dominant one in the relationship.
That detective on the left looks like he wants to beat tf out of stephan the murderer
The entire interview he looked like he wanted to jump over the table. I don’t blame him idk how they do it honestly, imagine having to see those kinds of images and then sit in the room with the perp I wouldn’t be able to do it 😢
Don’t we all? 🫤
I feel like that
My ex fiance was a cop. He regularly had dreams and sometimes nightmares about things he witnessed. It def takes a toll on them.
Poor girl, didn't have a single person to protect her
That poor child😢. Some parents don't deserve children
There’s absolutely no way possible this “mother” didn’t know what was going on. I blame her more because she should have protected her daughter. As a mother I can’t imagine, it’s the ultimate betrayal.
I totally agree 💯 with you
absolutely
Even his parents say that
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I don’t know guys, she doesn’t seem to be very sharp. I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility that she was clueless.
How is she not in jail??!
EXACTLY….. I pray charges are coming….
Because the law is effed up. She most likely has immunity or something for testimony against him.
I believe she has immunity untill they catch her in a lie, which they know they will
she must have taken a deal. no way they didn't charge her.
Hello 👋
She thinks if she keeps saying she's on meds then nothings her fault. She understands right from wrong. She should be locked up for life.
Yep... just like her "man"
Jen Soto said "this can't happen often" referring to SS and Maddie watching movies and "having sleepovers" in the spare bedroom. No one should EVERRRRR allow a GROWN MAN TO SLEEP WITH THEIR DUGHTER. She makes me feel SUCH RAGE. And I'm devastated for poor Maddie. She didn't deserve such a horrible mother and what that "man" did.
So bizarre. Zero emotion talking about her missing child and finding out he was molesting her for years.
I think the mom was so into this guy that she knew what was going on but turned a blind eye so he wouldn't leave her. Something tells me that's what was going on.
That's exactly what I said!
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On top of all the horror they’re pill fiends
That’s not what the evidence is. During one of her interviews she admits to having relationships with other men since her and Stephan “broke up”.
@@TinyRantershe was into women one of the former roommates said she would stalk them .
Her mom makes me very mad. 😡 I’m livid
My heart breaks for Maddie, I can't imagine the stress and fear she experienced. 💔
Dude, the confusion of having ur mom constantly choose your abuser over you! Like her fam didn’t want him at her b-day but mom had him living with them 🤯like really? And even tho she was told and shown the pics of the sxl abuse she was sooo worried about HIS well-being she nagged him to get a lawyer 😱WTF 🤬
@@luvyai1stThey didn’t want him there? I didn’t know that. Wow, huge red flag. 🚩
…….and mental abuse!
Unless their is a disability, why would a 13 yr old need help with ' bedtime routines'
I read somewhere that Madeleine was on the autistic spectrum. This might explain the need for repetitions and routines.
Snuggle, cuddle time with someone else's 13 year old daughter? Trying to "ween" her off of it? They talk about her as if she's 6, not 13! Barf!!
1,700 pictures she definitely wasn’t around enough and saying this can’t happen often is crazy. One time is one time too many.
Oh she was around plenty. She's the one who offered Maddie up to him. Everything she says is ridiculous.
Apparently she was around!! in an interview she says she had just started her job. And majority of the time would rest and hang at home until it was time to pick Maddie up from school. She wasn’t working for quite some time
My question is...was Jen the one who took the pictures of Stephen doing stuff with Maddie.....?
Yeah it is I agree with you!! And I just did the math and it breaks my heart!! These are only the numbers that I know of 5 years of this going on and 1,700 pictures.....
• 1700 pictures ÷ 5 years = 340 pictures each year!!!
• 340 pictures each year ÷ 12 months = about 28 pictures per month!!!
• 28 pictures per month ÷ 4 weeks = about 7 pictures a week!!!
• 7 pictures a week ÷ 7 days = 1 picture a day!!!
I hope the Mom gets charged, she’s not oblivious
She better get charged! I believe she will,I just hope it's for atleast 20 years! She knew, she allowed it!
I about fell out of my chair when she made the "oblivious" comment.
She is guilty as all sin
She knew she was strangled and knew where he left her, why is she free?! And then the nerve of her crying for her own birthday. Lock her up!
Him say snuggle cuddle time is just disgusting
He asks the Detectives IF he Should have a lawyer? Doesn’t matter, slug. Your phone spoke very clearly.
I hate how Jen s and Stephen sterns always mention how they were "medicated" or in a "medicated fog", like thats socially acceptable and everyone is just walking round high, but its ok its medicated. Like what are you talking about?
It has become normalized, sadly. And criminals like these two use it as an excuse for their poor behavior.
She stated that she slept in her normal clothes, not pajamas . That's how drugged out she is . She passes out in her daytime clothes in the upstairs "guest bed."
If meds make you an abuser or accomplice - either don’t take the meds or don’t be in charge of any children. Also ensure you can’t procreate.
Apparently it's acceptable to be high as a kite as long as your doctor is your dealer. 🙄
Loser behavior
Being under the influence of drugs is not an excuse nor does it make u innocent
JS seeing SA photo of her child: 😳
JS talking about the murder of her child: 😳
JS talking about her child: 😒🙄
JS talking about SS: 🥰🥺
JS talking about her bday being ruined: 😫😭😭😔😡
The 😳 is her acting.
@@SassySlater indeed
Something really off about this woman. She's not exhibiting normal motherly responses.
😮😮 why does a 13 year old need 'help' with her nighttime shower routine!!? 13 year olds should be mature enough to babysit on thier own etc... very odd 😮
He says “she was on top of it” sick
@@Ashleycycle I caught that 😳🤢 his whiney voice makes me literally nauseous.. especially knowing what we ALL now know 🤢🤢🤢😕
I was a babysitter when i was 13. Taking care of children.
That's rather ableist language. Mum seems as though she has an intellectual disability as well as some sort of personality disorder - perhaps Maddie had a disability. I hope JS is charged soon - she is worse than him for offering up her child!
I couldn't imagine a detective telling me my daughter was probably dead... I would have lost my mind to the point of complete hysterics and needed to be carried out to a mental institution! They are both disgusting beyond belief!!!
I agree. I know they'd have to put me in a straight jacket!
And the way she talks about it, "he dumped the body" , "I would have smell it..."
I had an odd nightmare about my 7 yr old grandson a few nights ago and I'm still struggling with it. If something horrible happened to my children or grand children I would lose my mind
She is not a mother! Pumping her daughter to this evil man! She is the blame.
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What a sorry excuse for a mom. Excusing things for the man that murdered her daughter.
That's called trash 🗑️😭
Judiciary system can't serve up justice for mom? hopefully 'citizen justice' she won't escape
Stephan really said “Haven’t gotten much sleep” welp, now you have the rest of your life to catch up on sleep in your jail cell 😂
@@IskwewCree also find out what forced $ex is.
I believe that disgusting sorry excuse for a mother knew her daughter was being abused, allowed it to continue to happen in order to keep that man!
Exactly.
Of course he has a creepy wimpy boy voice
They always do creeps
How she is still not charged is beyond me…. It is unbelievable.😢
Maybe they are getting a special cell ready just for JS.
In a leftist justice system, this is what happens.
She calls it a slumber party with him. Wth
Maddie wanted Slumber Party, Sleepover and movie night 🤬
A grown man the o and off boyfriend that she even said he’s a liar.
predators always seem so flaccid, placid and pathetic.
This mom was on pills and couldn't even take care of her own daughter.. she needs to be locked up for negligence and child abuse emotional abuse all of the above fr fr wtf man the more I watch the more it gets worse
Amazing job by the investigators! Thank you
Those interrogators were outstanding, cut through the BS and got real quick.
Yep. The Mom has known for years about the abuse.
She made money
She was at home all the time, of course she was aware!
@@flynneart1111she offered the poor girl to him just to keep him in her life....
She literally said “i told him “oh they must know something you should get a lawyer” um that seems like an admission of guilt to me.
Honest question: Has anyone here ever accidentally factory reset their phone? Im curious.
No, there a multiple prompts before a factory reset.
No never
Jennifer Soto should already be in jail.
This “man” literally disgusts me.
Ugh me too, he is disgusting and sad excuse for a human being. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, even prison justice. He is contemptuous
Definitely doesn’t deserve the title “man” he’s a waste of space
Both of them disgust me
Poor Maddie having to deal with his nastiness, sickens me 😡 and that so called mother ugh😡
This mother is negligent and complicit. I feel so badly for poor Maddie.
I think Maddie was their cash cow and they were both living off of the income that came from selling the disgusting material he had on his phone. He was likely selling that stuff on telegram and Jen not only knew but helped him.
If that's part of the case, I hope the mother is charged to the fullest.
The bed off the kitchen that was supposedly maddys “room” that she was never allowed to sleep on is a HUGE red flag for me. Wtf is it there? Seems like a corn set
@@rhee6827 Great point and yes!! I get the same vibe
Jeez what a crazy thought. Sadly, quite possible.
Yes, that is exactly it!
I don't believe anything she says! She shows zero concern for her daughter
Moms, please don't be so desparate to keep a stranger in your life at the cost of your own flesh and blood....
The mom knew what was going on and im so sad for Maddie. Not only was that creep preying on her, but her "Mom" could care less about her.
The mom is a liar and needs to be charged. She said she didn't want them to have "sleep overs" but in reality she forced Maddie to sleep with Sterns when she begged her mom to sleep with her. This woman us disgusting!
Those detectives have to have so much restraint because i could not contain my anger and talk to him with so much calmness,
I don't know how they manage it. Tough training.
The mother needs to be in jail