I really enjoy your bush outback footage. I pull my Motorhome at Pimba Spuds Roadhouse to watch trains, its most enjoyable. Gee I despise the bloody wind turbine windmills that I see as I travel around our beloved great outdoors. Great footage as a always. Got to love our trains.
Glad you enjoyed the footage! We used to come out here all the time but haven't so much in the last three/four years. I didn't realise how much I missed it until this trip! Will be back very soon I'm sure! Pimba's an awesome spot and even dropped into Woomera too which is a nice town. Thanks for watching. Matt - M&S Trains
Welcome from the UK mate! Thanks for watching. Yep, the carriage is for crew accommodations. Two drivers work 8 hours and then swap with another two, which were previously resting. The vans are equipped with a Kitchen, a Lounge area, and four private cabins, one for each driver. Matt - M&S Trains
Good upload, l am not much of a train man but watch bits and pieces, l like the 'Ausrizen'??, where you can see when its passed the curvature of the earth. I remember many years ago when an ex Dutch naval captain told me that you can only see 11km because of it.
@@MS_Trains Yes, my preference is for the whole of the train to be shown in every sequence, not just part. Your footage of trains such as 6MP4 and the Aurizon train was excellent. Very well done, and thank you for trekking to Pimba and environs. If you were able to see the location of viewers, I bet there'd be a surprising number from numerous overseas nations watching.
Have to say great coverage of the Perth services. Some bits and pieces---Pacific National get their refueling on the Nullabor somewhere. I wonder who has that contract and is it cheaper overall than Inline service. SCT and Aurizon have 2 x inline refueling tankers tucked behind the locos. A very clever idea Inline refueling. I think about 50 services a week???? running into WA which is very much flat country except the Darling Range just outside of Perth. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, mate! Glad you enjoyed the coverage. Pacific National refuel and also change crews at Cook, about 800 kilometers from Port Augusta. Fuel and water are brought in their own trains (Normally the weekly steel service) from either Esperance or Adelaide. The water is for the crew accommodation there for the carriages on the Indian Pacific. Around 30-35 freight services a week through to Perth. Matt - M&S Trains
An update on the Esperance Iron Ore Port set up. The mine owners have announced that the Koolyanobbing to Esperance Iron Ore contract has been terminated. That project involved several of their mine sites in the Koolyanobbing area. However there are already several other mining companies lining up already to use the Std Gauge line and Port Facilities. Some may involve trucking to Kalgoorlie then rail to Esperance. I spent the first 11 years of my life in place called Leonora north of Kalgoorlie and the names of mines in that district that i heard about keep popping up with different minerals today. Its all good. The Cambrian belt in WA just keeps giving.
More great work Mat! Some nice shots there, and you have picked some great locations to show off the desert! After travelling across Canada and the US , I'm afraid our Outback is a bit boring at times.for me I've been through the Territory twice and while it has some spectacular sights, there's a lot nothing in between. Though I ust admit , the Red dirt and new green grass and trees are a striking sight. In Stirling on 29th mate, give me shout if you're free. Cheers Gregg.
It seems once again that, like in 2017, maybe three operators are too competitive on the route. Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it. Matt - M&S Trains
تغطية رائعة جيدة استمتعت بها مع القطار وكأننى استمتع بقطار من القاهرة مصر الى سوهاج جنوب الصعيد لدينا بفضل الله وفخامة الرئيس عبد الفتاح السيسى انة جعل منا شعب متقدم نمتلك قطارات فاخرة وهذا انجاذ ومشاريع ضخمة وانشأء لنا طرق ممتاذة ❤❤❤❤❤❤شكرا لكم جميعا
G'day Matt, You would think PN would need 3 loco's on the point going to Perth, just the wind resistance of the double stack would slow it down. Did you notice PN with Aurizon containers on it the Perth to Melbourne super freighter. Great scenery. Cheers Louis Kats 👍
Hi Louis Kats, hope you're well! I've heard some interesting stories about some PN trains across to Perth and heavy wind! There's been times, some trains have fallen hours behind schedule due to strong head winds and even one time, a train ran out of fuel as it was burning to much extra with the headwind. A fuel track had to head out from Kalgoorlie to refuel it again. I know one time too that an Intermodal with extra double stacks had a G class added to help it keep on schedule too! As for those containers, they're from pre 2017 Aurizon Intermodal's and were sold off to companies like K&S as Jayjay has said. Will be funny to see Aurizon get the K&S contract and have those containers back on their trains! Matt - M&S Trains
No they won't, because only coal, gas and nuclear energy can provide the 24/7 power needed. "Renewables' are mostly manufactured in mainland communist China and apart from their inability to provide constant power at night when the wind ain't blowin' and the sun ain't shining, components need replacing every 10 to 15 years: the expired parts end up in landfill!
I despair when I see a massive freight train forced to stop, just to let another train pass. Loops have been extended in the past to allow longer trains, so maybe we should extend some loops a hell of a lot more. Then trains could pass each other without having to stop.
@@martythemartian99 Between Melbourne and Sydney most of the track is Double Track and the sections that aren’t have 6000-7000M passing lanes to speed up crosses. I personally think they should be adapted to at least the busy section between Port Pirie & Port Augusta to speed up cross times. Some loops out on the TAR are around 2500M in length. Matt - M&S Trains
@@MS_Trains Sounds like a good start. Then we could push for dual track down to Crystal Brook, out to Peterborough, and down to Bowmans. With the increased traffic that would allow, extending out from both ends of this section, would be a no brainer.😄
The fundamental problem with HSR is that the rail gauge of 1435 mm is far too narrow (as the rail cars a 3040 mm in width) - so the trains have to follow a (very expensive) virtual straight line - or tip over! This is a classic “5 Monkey Experiment” scenario - “we have always done it (incorrectly) that way”!! The so-called “Standard” rail gauge is only 1435 mm (which was actually engineered for 5’ width (mining) rail cars - and not for 8’ 0” rail cars! Brunel (in the CE 1830 - 40s) came up with a 7’ 0” rail “Broad” gauge that was perfect for 8’ 0” width rail cars - as this was far more stable and far larger load capacity (and lower maintenance) than the narrower gauges! All hell broke loose and Stephenson eventually pressed the UK Parliament for the “UK Standard Rail Gauge Act” CE 1846 to deliberately / deceptively eliminate Brunel’s excellent “Broad” gauge competing with his then commonly used “standard” gauge. In the CE 1920-30s Train cars became even wider to 10’ 0” (3040 mm) - and far more unstable as they were still using “Standard” gauge (1435 mm) that was less than half the width (3040 mm) of the cars. Would you drive road car with an 1800 mm width that has barely an 850 mm wheel gauge? No! Well only in a straight line!! The correct rail gauge for 3040 (10’ 0”) rail cars is 2540 mm (8’ 4”) “Wide” gauge rail! With this “Wide” gauge, these rail cars will be very stable and the HSR “Wide” rail lines do not have to be dead straight (as per HSR using the incorrect “Standard” Gauge rails)! This correctly engineered “Wide Gauge” rail line in Australia can then be applied for about 90% of the way using the pre-existing rail easements at a small fraction of the cost of making completely new rail easements and tracks. WDYT ?! 😊
That's correct! 8 hours on, 8 hours rest is the usual pattern for most operators with four driver's total. I believe Pacific National sometimes operate with just three drivers rotating in a stranger pattern so that there's still always two at the front. Matt - M&S Trains
On this section we should really combined the trains from Sydney & Melbourne together to make a 3600 Meter Freight (2.2 Miles)! Then we'll be more like the US! Matt - M&S Trains
The Nullarbor starts about 500 kilometres west of here. Around Pimba, the landscape is very much the same, with no trees and mainly rocky ground, but it's still fairly hilly, while the Nullarbor is pretty much completely flat. Matt - M&S Trains
Pimba is very different geology compared to the Nullarbor. Pimba is a part of the Arcoona Basin and is remnant volcanic origin stones and rock, the Nullarbor is limestone. Vegetation is also different.
Cracker Mate, I particularly like the shot of the “ railway crossing “ if turned there you could a couple cups tea 🫖 by the time the train has passed. . 🤣🤣👍
Crew Accommodations on wheels! 1700 Kilometers of nothing which via these trains is about 20-24 hours of running. Would be a long shift without a break!
7:31 very smart container wagons. Train driver on pension. Cape town . South Africa.
I really enjoy your bush outback footage. I pull my Motorhome at Pimba Spuds Roadhouse to watch trains, its most enjoyable. Gee I despise the bloody wind turbine windmills that I see as I travel around our beloved great outdoors. Great footage as a always. Got to love our trains.
Glad you enjoyed the footage! We used to come out here all the time but haven't so much in the last three/four years. I didn't realise how much I missed it until this trip! Will be back very soon I'm sure! Pimba's an awesome spot and even dropped into Woomera too which is a nice town. Thanks for watching.
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Merci beaucoup, superbe image et on ne s'ennuie pas.
Mate, thank you for your GREAT videos, great work, keep it up. Love watching the trains you capture
Not sure who Kane is, but thanks, mate!!
Plenty more videos to come, and glad you're enjoying the work of us at M&S.
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@MS_Trains Sorry young fella, I viewed a couple of TH-cam videos before that Kane had on here. I do apologise, had the wrong person
Love this video ❤️ Greetings from srilanka 🇱🇰
Hi from UK,great footage thanks.
Does the coach/car behind the locomotives act as a supply/sleeper seen as these trains travel over days at a time?
Welcome from the UK mate! Thanks for watching.
Yep, the carriage is for crew accommodations. Two drivers work 8 hours and then swap with another two, which were previously resting.
The vans are equipped with a Kitchen, a Lounge area, and four private cabins, one for each driver.
Matt - M&S Trains
Excellent video. Greetings from Poland. 👍
Thanks for watching from the other side of the world! Welcome to Australian Trains. Glad you enjoyed the video.
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Great Video Matt I like it ,,keep em coming and be safe mate cheers ❤️🙏👍👍🦘🇦🇺
Thanks, will do! Plenty more to come. Have a good weekend.
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Good upload, l am not much of a train man but watch bits and pieces, l like the 'Ausrizen'??, where you can see when its passed the curvature of the earth. I remember many years ago when an ex Dutch naval captain told me that you can only see 11km because of it.
Truly great material to watch and be both informed and able to reminisce. Thank you.
@@brucebezant4902 Glad to hear you enjoyed it Bruce! Plenty more to come.
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Great video, love seeing the whole train in one shot.
Open landscapes out here, make it a great place to do that! Thanks for watching.
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@@MS_Trains Yes, my preference is for the whole of the train to be shown in every sequence, not just part. Your footage of trains such as 6MP4 and the Aurizon train was excellent. Very well done, and thank you for trekking to Pimba and environs. If you were able to see the location of viewers, I bet there'd be a surprising number from numerous overseas nations watching.
Have to say great coverage of the Perth services.
Some bits and pieces---Pacific National get their refueling on the Nullabor somewhere. I wonder who has that contract and is it cheaper overall than Inline service. SCT and Aurizon have 2 x inline refueling tankers tucked behind the locos. A very clever idea Inline refueling.
I think about 50 services a week???? running into WA which is very much flat country except the Darling Range just outside of Perth.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks, mate! Glad you enjoyed the coverage.
Pacific National refuel and also change crews at Cook, about 800 kilometers from Port Augusta. Fuel and water are brought in their own trains (Normally the weekly steel service) from either Esperance or Adelaide. The water is for the crew accommodation there for the carriages on the Indian Pacific. Around 30-35 freight services a week through to Perth.
Matt - M&S Trains
Great coverage and train enjoyed it
An update on the Esperance Iron Ore Port set up. The mine owners have announced that the Koolyanobbing to Esperance Iron Ore contract has been terminated. That project involved several of their mine sites in the Koolyanobbing area.
However there are already several other mining companies lining up already to use the Std Gauge line and Port Facilities. Some may involve trucking to Kalgoorlie then rail to Esperance. I spent the first 11 years of my life in place called Leonora north of Kalgoorlie and the names of mines in that district that i heard about keep popping up with different minerals today.
Its all good. The Cambrian belt in WA just keeps giving.
Very nice and very good movie quality.
Beautiful train ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Fantastic video, I always love seeing nr34!!
It’s a great looking engine! Glad you enjoyed the video. More to come from this part of the country!
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More great work Mat! Some nice shots there, and you have picked some great locations to show off the desert! After travelling across Canada and the US , I'm afraid our Outback is a bit boring at times.for me I've been through the Territory twice and while it has some spectacular sights, there's a lot nothing in between. Though I ust admit , the Red dirt and new green grass and trees are a striking sight.
In Stirling on 29th mate, give me shout if you're free.
Cheers Gregg.
some cool trains
Is that a passenger/ sleeper carriage directly behind the two engines? If so then I suggest it’s used by the other two drivers for rest breaks.
That is what it is for!
Nice!!
3:28 PHAY wagons. I see them on the APEX quarry train on broad gauge.
Yep! Those PHAYs were used initially over here for Arriums Iron Ore Trains between 2012 & 2015.
Matt - M&S Trains
Great Video! a lot of air transported by Aurizon
It seems once again that, like in 2017, maybe three operators are too competitive on the route.
Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it.
Matt - M&S Trains
تغطية رائعة جيدة استمتعت بها مع القطار
وكأننى استمتع بقطار من القاهرة مصر الى سوهاج جنوب الصعيد لدينا بفضل الله وفخامة الرئيس عبد الفتاح السيسى انة جعل منا شعب متقدم نمتلك قطارات فاخرة وهذا انجاذ ومشاريع ضخمة وانشأء لنا طرق ممتاذة ❤❤❤❤❤❤شكرا لكم جميعا
At least you've got time to shave again if caught at a railway crossing! lol
G'day Matt,
You would think PN would need 3 loco's on the point going to Perth, just the wind resistance of the double stack would slow it down.
Did you notice PN with Aurizon containers on it the Perth to Melbourne super freighter.
Great scenery.
Cheers
Louis Kats 👍
I believe they're on long term lease to K&S freighters
Hi Louis Kats, hope you're well!
I've heard some interesting stories about some PN trains across to Perth and heavy wind! There's been times, some trains have fallen hours behind schedule due to strong head winds and even one time, a train ran out of fuel as it was burning to much extra with the headwind. A fuel track had to head out from Kalgoorlie to refuel it again. I know one time too that an Intermodal with extra double stacks had a G class added to help it keep on schedule too!
As for those containers, they're from pre 2017 Aurizon Intermodal's and were sold off to companies like K&S as Jayjay has said. Will be funny to see Aurizon get the K&S contract and have those containers back on their trains!
Matt - M&S Trains
@@MS_Trains Thanks Matt for all the info greatly appreciated it. 👍👍👍
Great video! Those windmills will be powering these trains one day soon!
Hopefully we get reliable clean nuclear energy...wind and solar isn't reliable. I don't want my air conditioning to go off on a 40 degree day
No they won't, because only coal, gas and nuclear energy can provide the 24/7 power needed. "Renewables' are mostly manufactured in mainland communist China and apart from their inability to provide constant power at night when the wind ain't blowin' and the sun ain't shining, components need replacing every 10 to 15 years: the expired parts end up in landfill!
I despair when I see a massive freight train forced to stop, just to let another train pass. Loops have been extended in the past to allow longer trains, so maybe we should extend some loops a hell of a lot more. Then trains could pass each other without having to stop.
@@martythemartian99 Between Melbourne and Sydney most of the track is Double Track and the sections that aren’t have 6000-7000M passing lanes to speed up crosses. I personally think they should be adapted to at least the busy section between Port Pirie & Port Augusta to speed up cross times. Some loops out on the TAR are around 2500M in length.
Matt - M&S Trains
@@MS_Trains Sounds like a good start. Then we could push for dual track down to Crystal Brook, out to Peterborough, and down to Bowmans. With the increased traffic that would allow, extending out from both ends of this section, would be a no brainer.😄
The fundamental problem with HSR is that the rail gauge of 1435 mm is far too narrow (as the rail cars a 3040 mm in width) - so the trains have to follow a (very expensive) virtual straight line - or tip over! This is a classic “5 Monkey Experiment” scenario - “we have always done it (incorrectly) that way”!!
The so-called “Standard” rail gauge is only 1435 mm (which was actually engineered for 5’ width (mining) rail cars - and not for 8’ 0” rail cars! Brunel (in the CE 1830 - 40s) came up with a 7’ 0” rail “Broad” gauge that was perfect for 8’ 0” width rail cars - as this was far more stable and far larger load capacity (and lower maintenance) than the narrower gauges!
All hell broke loose and Stephenson eventually pressed the UK Parliament for the “UK Standard Rail Gauge Act” CE 1846 to deliberately / deceptively eliminate Brunel’s excellent “Broad” gauge competing with his then commonly used “standard” gauge.
In the CE 1920-30s Train cars became even wider to 10’ 0” (3040 mm) - and far more unstable as they were still using “Standard” gauge (1435 mm) that was less than half the width (3040 mm) of the cars. Would you drive road car with an 1800 mm width that has barely an 850 mm wheel gauge? No! Well only in a straight line!!
The correct rail gauge for 3040 (10’ 0”) rail cars is 2540 mm (8’ 4”) “Wide” gauge rail! With this “Wide” gauge, these rail cars will be very stable and the HSR “Wide” rail lines do not have to be dead straight (as per HSR using the incorrect “Standard” Gauge rails)! This correctly engineered “Wide Gauge” rail line in Australia can then be applied for about 90% of the way using the pre-existing rail easements at a small fraction of the cost of making completely new rail easements and tracks. WDYT ?! 😊
Are the carriages (?) which seem to be right behind the locos in many cases for crew rest purposes?
That's correct! 8 hours on, 8 hours rest is the usual pattern for most operators with four driver's total. I believe Pacific National sometimes operate with just three drivers rotating in a stranger pattern so that there's still always two at the front.
Matt - M&S Trains
3:50 the longest train in the world!
More and more like the long freights of the USA.
On this section we should really combined the trains from Sydney & Melbourne together to make a 3600 Meter Freight (2.2 Miles)! Then we'll be more like the US!
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Are those engines GE or EMD?
Is this the Nullarbor?
The Nullarbor starts about 500 kilometres west of here. Around Pimba, the landscape is very much the same, with no trees and mainly rocky ground, but it's still fairly hilly, while the Nullarbor is pretty much completely flat.
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@@MS_Trains Thank you. Fascinating country.
Pimba is very different geology compared to the Nullarbor. Pimba is a part of the Arcoona Basin and is remnant volcanic origin stones and rock, the Nullarbor is limestone. Vegetation is also different.
Cracker Mate, I particularly like the shot of the “ railway crossing “ if turned there you could a couple cups tea 🫖 by the time the train has passed. . 🤣🤣👍
Thanks mate! Or a couple of beers if it's late afternoon at camp.
Matt - M&S Trains
Do Australian trains drive on the wrong side of the track?
If it’s double track, they drive on the left, same as highways.
No, that would be everyone else 😊
Why is there almost always a passenger car on these freight trains?
Crew Accommodations on wheels! 1700 Kilometers of nothing which via these trains is about 20-24 hours of running. Would be a long shift without a break!
@@MS_Trains Thank you very much for the answer!!