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Of course. It is a bad advise. Go for the 256Gb storage, today they have even external storage in USB C or Thunderbolt which are really fast for the amount of the upgrade if you dont wanna tear it down.
@@Irrational_Pie He's an entitled Apple fanboy who thinks Apple should get all your monies. For us normal folks, we can do the following instead: 1. Don't upgrade the storage. Buy a fast external Thunderbolt 3/4 external SSD like the Sandisk Pro-G40. You can add 2TB for $38 more than it would cost you to get the paltry 256GB upgrade from Apple. Speeds are close to the same. If you don't mind a little extra work, buy a $60-$80 USB/TB 4 SSD enclosure and install a fast 1TB or 2TB NVME SSD drive of your choice. NOTE: The internal SSD might become upgradable in the future (it's on a user replaceable card), but there's no guarantee that will happen, so an external SSD is the only viable solution for now. 2. There's a vast choice of mice and keyboards available that will work with your new Mac Mini. You can go as cheap as you want, but quality brands like Keychron for keyboards and Logitech for mice can fix you up for half the price of Apple's peripherals combined. 3. Just about any old 1080p or 4k monitor you have laying around will work with your Mac mini. No need to go and spend a whopping $1600 on a 5k Apple display. There are hundreds of high quality 4k monitors available for half the price of the Studio Display mentioned in the video. Being an Apple fan doesn't mean you have pay the Apple tax. The base model Mac Mini M4 is undoubtedly great value for what it gives you, but the moment you start spending money on borderline extortionate $200 upgrades and overpriced Apple peripherals and cables, that value for money rapidly disappears.
To long didn‘t watch: Mistake No. 1: Don‘t buy the 256 GB storage base model. Full storage slows down the machine. [imo: bad advice] Mistake No. 2: Don‘t think you need to take the Pro model. Base model as fast as previous M3 Pro. Only if you need pro GPU performance. Mistake No. 3: Don‘t feel you need to max it out to 64 GB of RAM. 32 GB are enough even for some video editing. Mistake No. 4: The power button on the downside should not stop you buying, it‘s not a big deal. Mistake No. 5: If you‘re only upgrading because of the thunderbolt 5 ports, stop and think about how much it matters. Data connections are only 80 not 120 Gbps and thunderbolt 5 accessories are rare (01.11.24) Mistake No. 6: If you need real fast graphics performance you do should buy something else. Graphics performance of base model m4 is weaker than cpu performance, relatively to max or ultra m chips. Mistake No. 7: Headphone jack in front isn’t bad at all, it is really convenient for video editing or music tasks. Mistake No. 8: Don‘t forget that mac mini comes without accessories. Magic mouse and apple keyboard cost you 200 $ extra [imo: I‘d use cheaper stuff] and you‘ll still need a display.
Ignore "Mistake No. 1 & 8" unless you like giving Apple lots of money. A USB/Thunderbolt 4 enclosure paired with a fast 1TB PCIe Gen 4 NVME SSD drive will cost $50 less than Apple's $200 256GB SSD upgrade and give you four times the additional (equally fast) storage. All for the very small additional inconvenience of having to plug in a small external drive. A good quality Keychron keyboard and Logitech mouse can be had for around half the price (combined) of the Apple keyboard and mouse combo and, of course, there are many even cheaper alternatives. Finally, just about any 1080p or 4K monitor will work with your new Mac Mini M4, if you have the right cable. No need to be spending $1600 on an Apple display. Even if you want a high quality 4k monitor, there are dozens of great choices available for half the price. Heck, you can even buy a 65-inch LG OLED evo C4 TV for less than $1500 these days and use it as a monitor!
@@emilsecker7881 he got a point. I pre-ordered a 1Tb, but I'm thinking to get a 512gb instead. I don't think I need that much storage for apps. Unless you play games.
@@emilsecker7881 You have installed close to 256GB of apps on any machine you ever owned? I would be surprised, but maybe you do. I suspect most people would not which are purchasing the entry level.
256GB is NOT too little storage if your needs are modest. I've been using 256GB laptops for years, both on the Windows and Mac sides, and have never had an issue. Between cloud storage and external SSDs, spending $200 for an extra 256GB is crazy (for me). Caveat: I'm a home user and NOT a video editor or prolific photographer. Of course those folks might need more, but to me the very best Mac Mini model for value is the base model.
Agree with you, But as an android dev, Xcode, Androd studio, gradle & project and all their caches fills the disk in no time. Well it also depend on the size of projects. And Yeah for most of the folks 256 GB is more than enough.
I am. I mean that is the target demographic.. macs are mainly made for creators. They're not meant for your grandmama. Of course that use case works, but the vast majority of buyers are going to be creators, so that's the perspective reviewers look at it from.
@@LindonSlaghtThat's not "the target demographic" what are you talking about lmao. They target that crowd with the more expensive models like the pros, max and Studio. They're not making all that Mac money from just photo editors; get a grip 😂
i edit photos with my m1 air 16gb ram 1tb hd and i am okay. i shoot with a x100v, xt4, and 50s. the medium format images take a little long to load and process but nothing crazy enough to warrant getting a new comp just yet
256Gb is fine. Why would you pay Apple exorbitant prices for additional storage? You can quadruple storage with external for far cheaper. Only upgrade for additional cores or memory if that is what you want.
I'm thinking the same thing. I have a macbook since 6 years with 256gb and never used it all. I do have an external drive for important files. In a few years 512gb or 1tb is the new base standard, at that time I can just buy a new Mac mini, all fresh with new processor and I will have used as much money as someone who upgraded their Mac mini's storage, ram and processor. lol.
In the case of the 256v512 variant, there is a significant performance hit by choosing the base capacity. This is a necessary evil that Apple just shouldn’t be offering. Anything after that, get external storage
@ apples memory management is still way more active better optimized than windows or android. Not to sound like a sympathizer but it does a better job of clearing and retaining app status than either of those. The increase in base spec is just to allow for spikes in usage when summoning AI features
@ AI features including super-powered Siri will be free only for limited time. Wonder how seeing the track record of Tim Cook you’re thinking he’s generously giving away 24 GB. 32 GB being sweet spot for a M4 Pro machine, yet he ensure the prosumers to pay for 48 instead by paying thrice as much. It will take just one OS update for people to realize how good 16 GB would be.
You can buy an external SSD if you need more than 256GB. Thunderbolt 4 is plenty fast and the vast majority of Apps and all of your data can be stored on it. Maybe it’s not quite as fast as the internal storage but then if you are in the market for a $599 Mac Mini do you really care?
I currently have an Intel-based iMac (2017) and ordered the Mac mini M4 Pro to replace it. I went with the standard 24GB of RAM, but upgraded to the 1TB internal storage option. In anticipation of the new Mac mini release, I looked for (and found) a used Apple Studio monitor for just under $1k. I'm looking forward to getting the new machine next week! Thanks for this video.
you will be amazed, the M1 was a huge improvement over the Intell line of Imacs. I upgraded 4 years ago wit the M1 and its been amazing. I traded in my M1 for one of these.
It's not practical to install something critical on an external device. I’d rather buy at least 512GB of storage and use a NAS for archiving video files
not really, buying an nvme SSD with tb4/usb4 enclosure may cost around $150-$200 for 80-85% spped of Apple's SSD, which is by far the fastest solution you can get on the market now, not to mention the latency, overall performance, etc...
@@nzonal I'm not sure with your perfomance values my external TB3 case with a samsung 990 Pro 2 TB is faster than the internal storage of my M1 MBA slightly BUT faster not slower. Probably this experience is not valid for M3 or M4 anymore.
@@nzonal Uhhh you can buy ultra-high performance 256GB Thunderbolt drives for $78. What "latency" with PCIE express? Do you not have the faintest clue about how NVME works? DERRRRRP ITZ NOT GOT DUH APPLE VUUDUUU SO ITZ ZLOWER!
@@nzonal For like 99% of people modern SSDs are already so much overkill they're never going to make use of that kind of speed, and for those that actually *need* the fastest aren't going to look for an M4 anyways, those are people looking to buy a machine for several thousands of dollars not a budget desktop.
"Upgrade to an iMac" (?) because the Mac Mini doesn't have a mouse, keyboard, or monitor (?) - That's probably the worst advice ever -- How about go online and buy a Logitech mouse for $20, a Macally keyboard for $39, and a 27" monitor for $100 . . . just saying
@ Most people don‘t Need a Mac. 200€ Mini pc will do it as well, just Like a 30€ Keyboard and mouse. But the Video mentions Apple Keyboard and Monitor. At that Point, the iMac is the better Choice. So what are we talking about
Wait, why can't I buy 256GB base model and use the $200 saved to buy external storage? Apps can be install in external storage completely fine, 256GB can fit system, couple of often use app + ram swap and still have storage left.
Its not a good idea, i tried few apps fail to run because either internal storage is required or serial interface is not reliable enough for critical transfers
@@bilalahsan678 Plus SSD is faster (256 GB model was mentionened that Apple saves money and uses only one memory chip, 512 GB has two), SSD is faster and has longer ""life expectancy" the bigger it is.
Sorry but mistake number 1.... paying the Apple upgrade tax. The base model with EDU pricing is $499. I just pre-ordered it and I brought a Crucial 4TB Pcie gen 4 for $250 and a thunderbolt 4 enclosure for $100. So for $850 I have a M4 Mac mini with 4TB. Apple will charge you $750 just to upgrade to a 2TB.... sorry but no way!
I bought the base m4 pro chip, with 24gb ram and 512gb of stroage. Honestly I think my needs can fit within all of these and I can use it for a very long time.
Debating on m4 pro v no. Need parallels running all day for a few non Mac programs. Needs to run excel (not huge files) ,Quickbooks and 2 proprietary scheduling programs for work. The rest of use is mail and web surfing. There is NO video editing. I do want to make sure it lasts for while. Can that be handled EASILY by non pro? I don’t mind spending the extra as long as I am getting someth8ng out of it. Thoughts?
@@SuburbanLawnSprink I think you can manage with the base chip but your gonna need to upgrade the ram. 32gb to be safe but 24gb should be enough. If you wanna keep this mac mini as your main pc for awhile I would suggest just getting the mac mini pro model. I bought it and even though I don't need the extra power I wanna keep it for 5+ years. Honestly up to you but I think you could get by with the base chip. It really depends on your budgest and how much you can pay.
Unless you’re making money on your Art and Music… just buy the base model and get a thunderbolt compatible SSD. There is no reason to spend $200 on 500Gb internal.
It's actually $200 on 256GB of storage (vs. at least 1TB of additional storage for less than $200 if you buy an enclosure and an internal PCIe 4 NVME SSD).
256G is NOT too little storage....not if I plan to, and ALWAYS install my data EXTERNALLY for the past 2 decades. I have 256G in my work M1 Mac Mini and currently have 76g free after 4 years...I just install Adobe suite on there and nothing else. I rather use external SSD...since it has Thunderbolt anyway...in fact....I plan to use the money towards 24G of RAM instead.
@@francescoliguori4708 Yeah, that'll work great! We use a Samsung T7 as our boot drive for our intel iMac and we haven't had any issues, so putting your apps in it will work (tho won't be as fast as the internal ssd)
Even HDMI is fine, but you can get a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter for $10 if you want 8k or higher refresh rates. Any monitor does DisplayPort nowadays. You can use the thunderbolt ports on the back for this, you don´t need a thunderbolt adapter or dock specifically, those are very expensive (because they typically do a lot of extra stuff).
You can buy any monitor or buy 2 “any monitors” to set up side by side to expand your ability to manage more! I just ordered an M4 Mac Mini to replace my M2 Mac Mini. I already have the necessary adapters required that connect 2 Acer 24 inch monitors I bought years ago. In one of my previous projects I reviewed long Excel spreadsheets and a single monitor won’t do. I believe the Pro M4 allows up to 3 sided by side monitors to be used! 😮. I’ll be sticking with the 2 I already own. My new Mac Mini is scheduled to arrive today. The only concern is that my experience with FedEx since 2020 has been problematic in that “today” for Fed Ex has meant up to 4 or 5 days later, with them erroneously reporting that they have “delivered to your address”, never saying what address they mean -while not actually delivering until the 5th day. Sometimes the delivery goes to the wrong house!!! I tried to get it delivered to the store, but the company I purchased from only permits ‘home delivery’ for this new item. I also already upgraded to the ‘touch id’ Apple keyboard to help maintain my sanity with managing passwords. Thanks for the video!!! Sharing with a few friends considering a Mac M4 upgrade.
@@kitturadior6935 Me too! I will replace my 2014 Mac Mini. It served me well for 10 years but it's time to say goodbye. It was supposed to arrive today, but DHL changed it at the last minute for Monday. I guess these are selling like pancakes so there is a bit of a mess with shipping.
Don’t get me wrong but 256 gb is perfectly fine. If it was a laptop I would say go for the upgrade and go for 1TB, but in a desktop computer, you’re better getting an external ssd
Good buyers guide. I am still using M1 Mac Mini with 16 GB and 512GB. Speed is still just fine for even video editing. I sure could use more ports and a 1 TB SSD. Also could sure use a SD reader port. Probably will wait till spring for the Mac Studio M4 Max.
the problem is we want it, but many of us only use the internet, yes it lasts 10 years, but after how long do you desire the next thing. Maybe it's easier to stay 2 years away from the new thing and you're going to be fine. I have the M1 and love it, $2600 is way too much for using it for the internet. Yet I have it and I don't think a M4 will feel much different.
I got the M4 10 Core with 32gb of Ram and 1TB of storage... I use on average 22gb of RAM and 10gb of Swap according to the resource monitor and it flies on the web and launching applications. SUPER happy with it. It never spins up the fans. As for the button on the bottom, I have mine positioned on its side using a holder I found on Amazon. Keeps the unit's fan up on the side for better cooling and the power button more accessible.
Max please let us know in one of your next videos: - how loud is the fan in the mac mini. I have a macbook air and it is great to have no fan at all - question is how noisy or annoying is the macmini regarding dezibel - can I pin the mac mini on the back of a screen or does it create problems regarding the "swich on" button at the bottom - how good is the soundcard in macmini M4- the sound in my macbook air is not good enough so I bought an external soundcard for 40 dollars which works great with my 5.1 soundsystem - why should I buy a macmini with 512 GB of storage when all my files can be stored in an external storage (like usb-stick or in the cloud? for far less money) Thank you !
Why do they always act as if you can no longer work with the previous processor when a new one is introduced? So many people live with a standard M1 and have no problems, why should an M4, that is a lot faster, be just for light productivity work?
Yes, this! The M4 base model is twice as fast as the M1 and even faster than the M2 Pro, which was recommended for professional use less than 2 years ago. It's actually 50% faster than the 2019 Mac Pro tower, which had a starting price of $6000. And now the M4 is for "basic web browsing and simple productivity" only? Complete bullshit if you ask me.
I am thinking of purchasing the Mac MIni and using it to travel since it is small. Is it wise to travel with one of these? I teach for University and have multiple tabs open using the OneDrive.
One thing to keep in mind is if your Apple Photo library is stored on an external drive the Time Machine won’t back it up. I like to have a full resolution copy of my photos on my system as part of my 3-2-1 backup plan. My library is on an external driver because of my small internal storage. So I have to manually backup the Photo Library every now and then (and remember to do it). Not the biggest problem but something to consider.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS TIP!!!! please tell us more! i was planning on getting 2 External Hard Drives (for two backups for 3-2-1) and current working video projects on an external SSD. Then just backing up to the 2 Hard Drives for 3-2-1.
Google search “Apple photo library external storage time machine”. You will see Apple webpages warning against using TM for external Photos libraries. My other suggestion is to export your photos in full resolution as individual files (rather than as a library database file) and save them on external drives. I had an old library (on an old hdd) that was unreadable by the current Photos app. Fortunately, I still had an old Mac that could read the file and create a newer version. Otherwise I would have lost 6K photos. I ended up adding the the photos to my iCloud Photos and synchronizing (merging) with my other photos. It took almost two months for it all sync. Note the size of my library is on the upper recommended limit suggested by Apple. My photos and home videos are my biggest concern regarding data retention and lost. They are truly the only things that can’t be replaced.
Sorry Vadim, but you got this one wrong. As a thousand other commenters are saying, with today's fast transfer speeds it's totally fine to connect an external SSD up to a base level 256GB MacAnything and get excellent performance and better value. No need to overpay Apple. They already get far too much money from us!
I agree. I mentioned in a comment that both my iPhone and my Mac Mini have 255GB and I ain’t hurting for space either way. It’s all in how you use external storage.
not really, buying an nvme SSD with tb4/usb4 enclosure may cost around $150-$200 for 80-85% spped of Apple's SSD, which is by far the fastest solution you can get on the market now, not to mention the latency, overall performance, etc...
@@nzonal Right, but if you get a 1tb ssd, you're saving $200-250, plus the 256gb internal ssd for a total of 1.25tb. That's more than worth the trade-off imo
Do consider the annoyance having an extra device and cable hooked up spread over X years of use. Still worth the price difference? I agree it’s overpriced but external equals inconvenience for me.
Why would I pay Apple to upgrade to the 512 SSD when I can spend the same or less for 2TB external. I’m still keeping all that “memory” available. It makes no sense man.
Ya that 256gb storage is small. You’ll use up a lot just installing your apps. It’s nasty that Apple charges $200 for 512gb but no choice since it’s soldered.
I'm still debating on which one to get. I do RAW HEIF in Lightroom on a weekly basis (personal photography, non-commercial). InDesign and Photoshop for work once every three months; along with some 4k 60 Log files in Premiere Pro. After a couple hours of and a bit of research I think: 1) I would not bother to spend extra in storage. Rather to invest in a pretty good M2 enclosure - Acasis devices have awesome reviews. 2) I think it's better to spend the extra in RAM/Unified memory. However; I'm not sure about the chip... Sequoia's always in between 5-6 GBs, add Apple lintelligence on to of that plus, a couple of tabs in the browser and iTunes//Spotify in the background. You're going to end up using how much?! 10-11 GB mayhaps? Should I wait for M4 vs M4 Pro comparisons? Any advise? Thank you for giving out your thoughts, cheers!
Hi. I am a professional graphic designer. i bought mac mini 24 ram / 1 tb ssd configuration because ssd size and ram are important for me. but after dozens of videos and reviews I started to think that I made the wrong choice. should i continue with external hard drives and choose m4 pro 24 ram / 512 ssd or is m4 pro 24 ram 1tb ssd suitable for me? If we think in terms of budget, there is a difference of 200 dollars, not fatal for me, but why should I pay more for less storage? If we think on the basis of the adobe family, do you think I made the right or wrong choice?
I'm shocked to hear you saying that the $599 mac mini is not a good bargain. I have a Macbook Air M2 16GB RAM with 256GB SSD and an external 2TB ssd which I bought for $159 and I haven't had ANY issues with storage in my Mac. All my files are in the external SSD with some of them on the internal SSD for faster access. In my case, 2 years ago when I bought my Air, I preferred to add the extra 8GB of RAM and thank you I did because that was a game changer compared to the base 8GB in the moment.
It’s not because of storage space, it’s because of speed on the M2 with 256gb it only has one flash chip, which makes it half the speed of a 512gb version, which has two chips.
@@pablovi77 that was changed on the M3 version, so he can’t tell if the Mac mini will have 1 or 2 chips on the base model. So, for now he shouldn’t tell not to buy the base model until this is confirmed.
We have the exact setup and I don't put any files on the internal drive except the ones I'm working on. With a 2TB M.2 SSD in a Thunderbolt 4 case, I'm have 2800+ GB/s. I have 64GB on my iPhone 12 mini and 128GB on my M1 iPad Pro. Never ran out of storage.
Guys need a suggestion - Is base Mac mini M4 is sufficient to connect 2 2k Monitor (one for stock trading and other monitor for personal task - not editing). Does buying M4 pro makes sense ?
I just ordered the M4 Pro with the $200 Option for upgraded cores. I added a 1TB Drive and 24GB memory I am mainly working with Adobe Lightroom Classic and Photoshop.
@ i thought about that too i have had a 16gb Mac mini M1 and my last mini was a M2 Pro with 32. Currently I am using my 8 gb MacBook Air m2 and things run fairly well if i only run LRC and nothing else. I monitor the memory usage and LRC hardly goes over 5gb. I work with 24 megapixel files.
yeah, like I said, old school. =) 2020 72" iMac with 128 GB if ram... and I have hit swap. Print designer, so run full Adobe CC, plus multiple browsers for web work, with dozens and dozens of tabs/windows. But that's prob an intel issue... wife and kids have M1s (mini and MBAs) and they run great.
@@estern53@estern53 "old school" thinking that you can never be too thin, too rich, or have enough RAM. Ive run 128 for years in my intel imac, and the thought of running less, say 64, scares me. Even tho I know M chips handle it different.
I'm considering getting the M4 with 24GB of Unified Memory and 512GB of storage for video editing. Do you think that setup is sufficient, or should I opt for the 1TB version? I primarily work off external SSDs.
If you primarily work with external SSDs, then the 256GB model is enough. It only has to contain the OS which is about 30GB, the rest can be on your external drives.
M4 with 32GB and 1T is the perfect spot. If you need a more powerful machine, you should get the M4 Max. Great video, Max! It did save me a lot of money.
Same. Completely agree. Also I have an external 1TB SSD always connected.
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I am also using iCloud since years. We have a family account with 6 TB. My current MacBook Pro from 2017 has 1 TB. My part in iCloud is around 600 GB. I was planning for a Mini base model with 512 GB, but your post make me rethinking the decision.
Just look at how much storage you are using now. Gives you a good baseline. Everyone is different. I'm just annoyed they say buying the baseline is a mistake.
256 GB is enough if you know how to manage your computer space. Mac OS (sequoia) needs roughly 25 GB space. Set aside another 25 GB for Mac apps. You still have 206 GB space that you can use wisely. But if are buying a mac for video editing or music production then even 512 GB will not be sufficient. You can always connect an external SSD (1TB) that costs 1/3rd of what Apple is charging for 256 GB upgrade to use final cut pro - if in future you decide to become a TH-camr like Vladim (MaxTech) and give stupid advice to people who have limited budget.
I am about to buy a mac mini for music production and college work. Is there a big difference in the M4 16 and 24 gb ram or should I just save money and buy the 16?
Hi, I am a Ableton & Logic user, with a M1 Mini 16Gb and i can safely tell you RAM is the bottleneck. Even with my basic 8 to 10 channel sessions, when i am just writing music.. the monitor app is always showing the RAM meter running at the yellow to orange threshold. So..dont feel bad about getting 24Gb or even 32Gb if you want to future proof. It is also very useful to run your VSTs from a different SSD, than your main and/or recording/reading disk. So, think 2 or even 3 SSDs simultaneously..for those functions. And no need to go faster than a basic SATA SSD for that, as long as u tun the reading/writing on the native disk. Makes it easier to work, too.. ;)
It would probably be better and buy 24 or even 32 GB Unified Memory, especially if you're using software like NotePerformer Playback Engines that are memory hogs.
It seems like very few of these reviews are for "real" users. I do think it's about time that Apple made the base models with 16 GB of memory, making the base model more than enough for most people. The base storage of 256 GB is also pathetic for most people but most people also don't need the fastest storage on the market and can add considerably more storage than Apple's upgrades and for a lot less money. Finally, I'm glad that your editor finds the headphone jack more convenient on the front of the unit, but that doesn't automatically make it inexcusable for us to not like it. I plug my speaker setup into that jack and would prefer to have on the back, thank you very much. Hopefully when companies start making docking stations that fit these like the ones for the old models, this will be solved.
@ his view and review on hardware is okay but the use-case mention here are editing everywhere. Editing are not more than 1% overall in computing space .. there are tons and tons of other views which uses computers every minute of the day..
@@chidorirasenganz fine for all of those uses too. I got one when they first came out and could easily do real time multiple 4K workflows, modeling, music, etc.
@@jhalscott Are you talking the base M1 or the Pro or Max? I’ve had the base M1 struggle with Figma when too many tabs are open and my M1 Pro has it’s limitations in Blender. In fact the base M3 is more than 2x faster in Blender than my M1 Pro and the M4 will be as twice as M3.
@@jhalscott Ahh yeah that’s fair. I just wanted to point out that there are other workflows that can be bottlenecked or less responsive due to the performance of the SoC
I have an M1 Mac Mini which I use solely for running a complex Excel spreadsheet algorithm with several data variables. The largest of these has about 5000 numbers. To run an optimisation exercise can take up to 30 minutes. How much would upgrading to an M4 speed up processing? Would upgrading to an M4 Pro or Max lead to a significant further improvement?
The worst performing Apple silicon Mac is the base level M2 Mac Mini with only a 256 Gb SSD and 8 Gb or RAM. This is because whereas the base level M1 and M3 Apple Silicon Macs implement 256 Gb of flash memory using two 128 Gb flash modules, the M2 implements the 256 Gb using only a single flash module. This means that SSD read and write speeds are limited to how much can be read and written to a single flash module. All other Apple Silicon Macs can read and write to two flash modules simultaneously. I would really like to know is whether an M4 Mac Mini with a 256 Gb SSD has one or two flash modules. My guess is that Apple have learned their lesson and it will have two 128 Gb flash modules which will make it a very good Mac to buy. I do not believe that adding external SSDs improves the performance of an Apple Silicon Mac. This is because a lot of important parts of MacOS such as the swap file needs to be on the fastest possible internal SSD.
The Logitech M510 mouse for $20 to $40 is excellent. Better than magic, it feels just right in hand in my opinion the best value mouse ever. In regard to storage, I just plug in external drives for multi backups.
Exactly like others said, get the base Mac mini, get yourself a USB C storage device for $100 or less easily. You don’t need Apple branded accessories for any of this. Just use PC parts, buy a wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse if you don’t already have one, and a standard monitor will do. If you’re even considering a Mac mini you probably have most of this stuff already.
I’m sorry but if you are buying a computer for the first time in ur life then you have to invest into a keyboard and mouse. Also everyone and their mother has a mouse and keyboard that they can use with the Mac mini without the need to buy Mac peripherals. Get a Logitech MX key and Master. Apple makes great hardware and accessories but not keyboards or mice lmao.
I mounted my Mini under my desk, so the button on the bottom is actually an advantage. And, I bought the 512 Gig model and added a 1 TB external drive.
You could also just buy a Thunderbolt adapter if/when you actually need it rather than spending more upfront when the *HUGE* majority of people buying the Mini don't have anything greater than gigabit networking.
Can you comment on media engine? My only focus is encoding time in H.265. Faster the better for me. 32GB vs 24GB, would encode faster or not really? Pro vs base M4 encode 2 vs 1 parallel streams no? Thanks!
Thanks for a great video. I’m upgrading my Intel MBP. I run classes using ECamm, video and Keynote. I was going. To get Mini M4 Pro but do you think I’d be OK with mid M4 now? Thanks
Been using the M1 Mini with 256gb for 4 years....its enough space. I backup everything external as all should do. I am also very happy with the thing, and its got good trade in, towards the new one.
I’ve a 2017 27” 5k iMac - a superb display. I’d buy a mini to get the speed upgrade, but I’d like to know if I can get the best of the screen using screen sharing. Your thought? I use Microsoft Remote to control my PC. It opens like any other app on my iMac, and it’s seamless. But for photo editing, not so good. My photo editing apps are so slow on the 2017 iMac which is why I’d like something newer and faster.
Thanks for the info about fume, not interested but I understand... what I really want to know is if the internal SSD can be upgraded after purchase? Did you buy one and take delivery or just using stock images and Apple specs? Seems everyone is touting this without actually having the M4 in hand, no benchmark tests, no teardown, just happy a lot of fluff that I could just get from Apple's website. Please do better!
great review! do you use photoshop? have you tried denoise AI? I'm looking for an opinion on that, my windows setup lasts more than 5 minutes to process one raw file's noise and a graphic card worth costs 400 so maybe it's time to move to mac... what do you think?
I’m new to apple products and was wondering with the Mac mini does it use apps like the iPad or do you have to buy actual software? Say for like Lightroom I’m planning on using this setup for photo editing and help would be appreciated 🙏🏼
not to mention resell value. you’ll never get back that extra $200 you spent on a higher binned chip when selling the device down the road in a few years
I’ve never owned a Mac. I have two questions. How do I connect two LG monitors to this? Secondly I don’t play games but use photoshop, after effects and premiere. How are the performance specs of these compared with my i7 intel PC?
Any monitor is fine, the Mac is just another computer, it follows standards. You can use HDMI or USB-C monitors natively, and you will need a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter for DisplayPort monitors (it's $10 on amazon). How fast your i7 is depends on the year it was manufactured. "i7" means it is a high-end processor, but every single Intel processor generation had an i7 model since 2008. In any case, the M4 will be faster, because it is faster than any i7 from any generation. How much faster depends on which i7 you have specifically. The M4 is even faster than Intel's latest generation i9 processor, the i9-14900KS, by about 15%. But that Intel processor alone costs $700, more than the whole Mac Mini!
Please explain gpu in detail 1:- means Compare no. of cores equivalent with different nvidia rtx 40 series to get an idea because then it's easy to understand who switching windows to Mac (Except Gaming). Ex. 10 core or 20 core gpu with rtx 4050 or 4060. 2:- explain How much gpu really required for basic task and how much for entry level professional and then for pro. 3:- Is is okay to buy mac mini because everything we have to buy extra from keyboard to monitor or instead buy Macbook pro. 4:- Can Mac support external gpu?
Er, 256GB on the Base is PLENTY .... Just use it as the OS 'ONLY' .... Store all your data on External Drives and/or a NAS ( As I Do ) I use the Desktop for 'In Use' Temporary Storage. Then, Before Shutting Down, All 'Required' Files are moved to the NAS Drives .... Are you 'On Commision' from Apple ! ! ? ?
Great video!! Fast forward to today, I use three 4K monitors off of my Windows PC. The monitors also have USB-C inputs. I also just pre-ordered the M4 Pro of the Mac Mini. I don’t want to use all three ports for the three monitors because I will be left with no rear T5 ports. Can I drive the three monitors off of one T5 port if ran into a USB-C hub and it yes, which hub?
For 4K Video editing would the M4 (non PRO) CHIP Model with 32GB RAM 512GB SSD be more than acceptable performance ? Note : I dont foresee editing 8K footage. Apple pro res and footage from my Drone only Thanks in advance...
Yeah, I believe you will be fine. I reckon you'll probably feel the need to invest in external drives, than upgrading because the CPU is holding you down. ;)
Here is how I put it when it comes to the price of the base model. I remember when we paid $599 for a Commodore 64 in 1980's dollars!! now look at what you get for the similar price now!
I have a M1 8GB 512GB Mac Mini now and it's still fine. Wouldn't it be better for me to upgrade to 32GB 256GB M4 Mac Mini for $999 rather than $1399 M4 Pro? (Of course with an external SSD)
$599 is unbeatable! and who says 256gb is not enough? the only thing important you need to know is that you need at least 16GB of RAM so you don't hit the page file too often. In fact, with my needs: browsing, watching youtube, listening music, do some programing and network admin stuff, most of my tools are in mb and all my files are in a NAS, so 256GB is enough for me, beside you can always attach an external nvme. The $100 10G is a nice update to speed up the transference between your network storage, but it's a little expensive for 10G for my taste, although an external Thb4 10G will cost you around $200. Or you can go for a 5Gb usb 3 10gb dongle for $30 (5gb is the negotiated speed, and usb 3 10g is the requirement for the usb 3 otherwise it will negotiate to 2.5G) plus you have to make sure your swith supports it.
$200 for an extra 256GB storage? That is not a cost vs benefits recommendation. Many here have been using 256GB for years without any problem at all. If you need more storage you will get far better value buying an external drive and if you go with a NVMe such as the WD_BLACK SN770 1TB NVMe paired with something like the ACASIS 40Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure you will have plenty of extra super fast storage for that $200. Plus the versatility of adding a larger drive if need be.
I'm gonna get the base model and if I'm customizing mine, I'm only getting a memory upgrade to 24GB. Photo & Video Editor here, using an Intel MacBook Pro 13 2020 (Two Tb 3 ports), 256GB ssd, 8GB ram. And I'm only using 151GB of my storage since I use a Samsung T7 for heavy stuff and movies.
Can I get the base model with 256 gb, disable the SSD swap memory to prevent extra wear and tear on the internal SSD, and then use a NVME brand name to use as my external storage?
What are your thoughts about connecting this bad boy to an OLED and using it as a living room Mac and gaming console? Are there other ways to take advantage of this beast of a machine in the living room?
I have the chance to get the Mac Studio M1 Max for the same price of The New Mac Mini M4 with 512gb, do you think I should get the latest updated hardware "Mac Mini M4" or stick to the studio version with M1 Max even if it's 2 -3 years old ?
Which computer will last for 10 years? I am still using my 2014 Mac Mini, which I believe is due to the fact that I invested in the maximum RAM and a 1TB hard drive when I purchased it. It was a smart investment. The Pro model is very tempting; with Thunderbolt 5, it seems like the best choice. After all, why get a computer with outdated ports? Is there a reason to avoid paying more now for future benefits?
I have a 2015 MacBook Air and it still works fine other than the battery life. It is the base model and I paid nothing to upgrade it. I still use Lightroom and Photoshop on it. It is slower now, but still very usable. I also have two other Macs, all base models with very good performance. It is better to upgrade with cheaper models more often to get all updates than pay thousands and change every ten years, unless you need higher performance for professional use.
@@Victoria.Delcourt I have always felt the opisite. I had a 2001 MDD until 2009, then a used Mac then Mac Mini and now I am going to get the Pro. I think that is a great savings.
I'm running my system with an M1 MBA with a cracked screen and using a Dell 4k display instead. 256gb storage, 8gb of ram. I'm fine with it. I don't do video editing, photo editing, high graphics games or anything that takes a lot of power. That said, I'm thinking of the base M4 mini with 256gb. I have multiple SSDs laying around with tb's of space. Why pay Apple for that? On top of that, just like with our iPhones and iPads, we have cloud storage that makes it easier to pass things around. And mistake #8, about mouse, kb and display? Isn't that the entire point of the mini that you already have those? If I could turn my 27" 5k iMac into a display I would use that but Apple made sure that wasn't going to happen as well.
Just FYI, absolutely don’t worry about buying the 256gb SSD model. Since it’s a desktop computer, you can just connect an external SSD & never remove it. It’s a lot cheaper to do this.
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Hiya, can you guys do an in-depth video/buyers guide on monitors (non-Apple display) to pair with the new Mac Mini?
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Hello, the video is marked with "mistake 1" all over the place.
Thank you so much for the video!
Pff
Is this where I place my question if I'm a new member?
Your first recommendation made me want to close this video
True
Absolutely, it just shows this guy is clueless.
Of course. It is a bad advise. Go for the 256Gb storage, today they have even external storage in USB C or Thunderbolt which are really fast for the amount of the upgrade if you dont wanna tear it down.
Apple charging $200 for a mere extra 256GB upgrade is truly CRIMINAL....
@@Irrational_Pie He's an entitled Apple fanboy who thinks Apple should get all your monies.
For us normal folks, we can do the following instead:
1. Don't upgrade the storage. Buy a fast external Thunderbolt 3/4 external SSD like the Sandisk Pro-G40. You can add 2TB for $38 more than it would cost you to get the paltry 256GB upgrade from Apple. Speeds are close to the same. If you don't mind a little extra work, buy a $60-$80 USB/TB 4 SSD enclosure and install a fast 1TB or 2TB NVME SSD drive of your choice.
NOTE: The internal SSD might become upgradable in the future (it's on a user replaceable card), but there's no guarantee that will happen, so an external SSD is the only viable solution for now.
2. There's a vast choice of mice and keyboards available that will work with your new Mac Mini. You can go as cheap as you want, but quality brands like Keychron for keyboards and Logitech for mice can fix you up for half the price of Apple's peripherals combined.
3. Just about any old 1080p or 4k monitor you have laying around will work with your Mac mini. No need to go and spend a whopping $1600 on a 5k Apple display. There are hundreds of high quality 4k monitors available for half the price of the Studio Display mentioned in the video.
Being an Apple fan doesn't mean you have pay the Apple tax. The base model Mac Mini M4 is undoubtedly great value for what it gives you, but the moment you start spending money on borderline extortionate $200 upgrades and overpriced Apple peripherals and cables, that value for money rapidly disappears.
To long didn‘t watch:
Mistake No. 1: Don‘t buy the 256 GB storage base model. Full storage slows down the machine. [imo: bad advice]
Mistake No. 2: Don‘t think you need to take the Pro model. Base model as fast as previous M3 Pro. Only if you need pro GPU performance.
Mistake No. 3: Don‘t feel you need to max it out to 64 GB of RAM. 32 GB are enough even for some video editing.
Mistake No. 4: The power button on the downside should not stop you buying, it‘s not a big deal.
Mistake No. 5: If you‘re only upgrading because of the thunderbolt 5 ports, stop and think about how much it matters. Data connections are only 80 not 120 Gbps and thunderbolt 5 accessories are rare (01.11.24)
Mistake No. 6: If you need real fast graphics performance you do should buy something else. Graphics performance of base model m4 is weaker than cpu performance, relatively to max or ultra m chips.
Mistake No. 7: Headphone jack in front isn’t bad at all, it is really convenient for video editing or music tasks.
Mistake No. 8: Don‘t forget that mac mini comes without accessories. Magic mouse and apple keyboard cost you 200 $ extra [imo: I‘d use cheaper stuff] and you‘ll still need a display.
Ignore "Mistake No. 1 & 8" unless you like giving Apple lots of money. A USB/Thunderbolt 4 enclosure paired with a fast 1TB PCIe Gen 4 NVME SSD drive will cost $50 less than Apple's $200 256GB SSD upgrade and give you four times the additional (equally fast) storage. All for the very small additional inconvenience of having to plug in a small external drive.
A good quality Keychron keyboard and Logitech mouse can be had for around half the price (combined) of the Apple keyboard and mouse combo and, of course, there are many even cheaper alternatives.
Finally, just about any 1080p or 4K monitor will work with your new Mac Mini M4, if you have the right cable. No need to be spending $1600 on an Apple display. Even if you want a high quality 4k monitor, there are dozens of great choices available for half the price. Heck, you can even buy a 65-inch LG OLED evo C4 TV for less than $1500 these days and use it as a monitor!
Thank you! ☺☺☺
1TB SSD is $60 on amazon. Do not waste your money buying storage from Apple.
You can’t install programs on that
@@emilsecker7881you can install softwares on external SSD
@@emilsecker7881 Actually; on Mac you can install apps.then you can move them and run them from the external drive. (With some exceptions)
@@emilsecker7881 he got a point. I pre-ordered a 1Tb, but I'm thinking to get a 512gb instead. I don't think I need that much storage for apps. Unless you play games.
@@emilsecker7881 You have installed close to 256GB of apps on any machine you ever owned? I would be surprised, but maybe you do. I suspect most people would not which are purchasing the entry level.
256GB is NOT too little storage if your needs are modest. I've been using 256GB laptops for years, both on the Windows and Mac sides, and have never had an issue. Between cloud storage and external SSDs, spending $200 for an extra 256GB is crazy (for me). Caveat: I'm a home user and NOT a video editor or prolific photographer. Of course those folks might need more, but to me the very best Mac Mini model for value is the base model.
I couldn't have said it better.
Yea most people are fine with 256.
I agree with you 👍
I 100% agree only using 70gb on my Mac mini m2. Will stick with base 256gb Mac mini m4 pre order
Agree with you, But as an android dev, Xcode, Androd studio, gradle & project and all their caches fills the disk in no time. Well it also depend on the size of projects. And Yeah for most of the folks 256 GB is more than enough.
I find it always amazing that the reviewers always think everyone is a video or photo editor lol
I am. 😂
Facts.
I am. I mean that is the target demographic.. macs are mainly made for creators. They're not meant for your grandmama. Of course that use case works, but the vast majority of buyers are going to be creators, so that's the perspective reviewers look at it from.
@@LindonSlaghtThat's not "the target demographic" what are you talking about lmao. They target that crowd with the more expensive models like the pros, max and Studio. They're not making all that Mac money from just photo editors; get a grip 😂
i edit photos with my m1 air 16gb ram 1tb hd and i am okay. i shoot with a x100v, xt4, and 50s. the medium format images take a little long to load and process but nothing crazy enough to warrant getting a new comp just yet
Why not 256gb with thunderbolt 4 expansion (external SSD)? Also please update chapters as they’re all #1!
256Gb is fine. Why would you pay Apple exorbitant prices for additional storage? You can quadruple storage with external for far cheaper. Only upgrade for additional cores or memory if that is what you want.
Ya I ordered the M4 Mac Mini with 256gb of storage with 24gb of RAM. I'll use external storage of necessary.
Swap memory would be slower and you’d have very little space for local files
@@chidorirasenganz rubbish. It isn't slower unless SSD is almost full.
I'm thinking the same thing. I have a macbook since 6 years with 256gb and never used it all. I do have an external drive for important files. In a few years 512gb or 1tb is the new base standard, at that time I can just buy a new Mac mini, all fresh with new processor and I will have used as much money as someone who upgraded their Mac mini's storage, ram and processor. lol.
How can this guy recommend spending an additional $200 on 256GB of storage with a straight face
Because the 256GB Mini probably has just 1 chip so it will be slower than the 512GB because it's not running in parallel that's why.
In the case of the 256v512 variant, there is a significant performance hit by choosing the base capacity. This is a necessary evil that Apple just shouldn’t be offering. Anything after that, get external storage
16 GB isn't that great too. Apple soon will update their new OS to eat up as much as 10 GB of RAM, and leaves a mere 6 GB at user disposition
@ apples memory management is still way more active better optimized than windows or android. Not to sound like a sympathizer but it does a better job of clearing and retaining app status than either of those. The increase in base spec is just to allow for spikes in usage when summoning AI features
@ AI features including super-powered Siri will be free only for limited time. Wonder how seeing the track record of Tim Cook you’re thinking he’s generously giving away 24 GB. 32 GB being sweet spot for a M4 Pro machine, yet he ensure the prosumers to pay for 48 instead by paying thrice as much. It will take just one OS update for people to realize how good 16 GB would be.
You can buy an external SSD if you need more than 256GB. Thunderbolt 4 is plenty fast and the vast majority of Apps and all of your data can be stored on it. Maybe it’s not quite as fast as the internal storage but then if you are in the market for a $599 Mac Mini do you really care?
I currently have an Intel-based iMac (2017) and ordered the Mac mini M4 Pro to replace it. I went with the standard 24GB of RAM, but upgraded to the 1TB internal storage option. In anticipation of the new Mac mini release, I looked for (and found) a used Apple Studio monitor for just under $1k. I'm looking forward to getting the new machine next week! Thanks for this video.
you will be amazed, the M1 was a huge improvement over the Intell line of Imacs. I upgraded 4 years ago wit the M1 and its been amazing. I traded in my M1 for one of these.
Where did you find monitor? Thanks
Paying 200$ for an extra 256GB, madness !
Buy an external SSD guys and don't listen to him !
It's not practical to install something critical on an external device. I’d rather buy at least 512GB of storage and use a NAS for archiving video files
not really, buying an nvme SSD with tb4/usb4 enclosure may cost around $150-$200 for 80-85% spped of Apple's SSD, which is by far the fastest solution you can get on the market now, not to mention the latency, overall performance, etc...
@@nzonal I'm not sure with your perfomance values my external TB3 case with a samsung 990 Pro 2 TB is faster than the internal storage of my M1 MBA slightly BUT faster not slower. Probably this experience is not valid for M3 or M4 anymore.
@@nzonal Uhhh you can buy ultra-high performance 256GB Thunderbolt drives for $78.
What "latency" with PCIE express? Do you not have the faintest clue about how NVME works?
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@@nzonal For like 99% of people modern SSDs are already so much overkill they're never going to make use of that kind of speed, and for those that actually *need* the fastest aren't going to look for an M4 anyways, those are people looking to buy a machine for several thousands of dollars not a budget desktop.
"Upgrade to an iMac" (?) because the Mac Mini doesn't have a mouse, keyboard, or monitor (?) - That's probably the worst advice ever -- How about go online and buy a Logitech mouse for $20, a Macally keyboard for $39, and a 27" monitor for $100 . . . just saying
well, no $100, or even $300 monitor will match the clarity of the iMacs display. ppi is vastly different. 218 ppi on imac vs 140 on a 4K screen.
@btk1243 - Maybe they get some cash from Apple in order to promote this kind of "advice".
Hard to buy a 4.5k screen for 100$
@@ms1595most people don’t need a 4.5k monitor. Majority still use a 1080p monitor.
@ Most people don‘t Need a Mac. 200€ Mini pc will do it as well, just Like a 30€ Keyboard and mouse. But the Video mentions Apple Keyboard and Monitor. At that Point, the iMac is the better Choice. So what are we talking about
Wait, why can't I buy 256GB base model and use the $200 saved to buy external storage? Apps can be install in external storage completely fine, 256GB can fit system, couple of often use app + ram swap and still have storage left.
Good question. Hopefully @maxtech will respond
Its not a good idea, i tried few apps fail to run because either internal storage is required or serial interface is not reliable enough for critical transfers
@@bilalahsan678 The new mini has Thunderbolt 4 or 5 depending on model. MacSales has TB5 2TB and 4TB external drives.
@@bilalahsan678 Plus SSD is faster (256 GB model was mentionened that Apple saves money and uses only one memory chip, 512 GB has two), SSD is faster and has longer ""life expectancy" the bigger it is.
I would rather play safe and use the 512gb at least. Better safe than regret.
Sorry but mistake number 1.... paying the Apple upgrade tax. The base model with EDU pricing is $499. I just pre-ordered it and I brought a Crucial 4TB Pcie gen 4 for $250 and a thunderbolt 4 enclosure for $100. So for $850 I have a M4 Mac mini with 4TB. Apple will charge you $750 just to upgrade to a 2TB.... sorry but no way!
Let's hope the 256gb version isn't gimped performance-wise to hell like on the M2s back in the day then.
@@Panplwhich is why I'm waiting for the thing to actually be benchmarked before ordering.
What does EDU pricing mean?
@@generalpupsi Education price. If you order with an .edu email address.
I bought the base m4 pro chip, with 24gb ram and 512gb of stroage. Honestly I think my needs can fit within all of these and I can use it for a very long time.
Yeah Im in the same ballpark. Cant really decide between 24 and 32. Thinking of using it for obs streaming twitch and mixing mostly
@@cagan8 Yeah 24 ram should be enough to do all of that. I really wannted the pro chip for furture proofing.
You can, and you will
Debating on m4 pro v no. Need parallels running all day for a few non Mac programs. Needs to run excel (not huge files) ,Quickbooks and 2 proprietary scheduling programs for work. The rest of use is mail and web surfing. There is NO video editing. I do want to make sure it lasts for while. Can that be handled EASILY by non pro? I don’t mind spending the extra as long as I am getting someth8ng out of it. Thoughts?
@@SuburbanLawnSprink I think you can manage with the base chip but your gonna need to upgrade the ram. 32gb to be safe but 24gb should be enough. If you wanna keep this mac mini as your main pc for awhile I would suggest just getting the mac mini pro model. I bought it and even though I don't need the extra power I wanna keep it for 5+ years. Honestly up to you but I think you could get by with the base chip. It really depends on your budgest and how much you can pay.
Unless you’re making money on your Art and Music… just buy the base model and get a thunderbolt compatible SSD. There is no reason to spend $200 on 500Gb internal.
It's actually $200 on 256GB of storage (vs. at least 1TB of additional storage for less than $200 if you buy an enclosure and an internal PCIe 4 NVME SSD).
The biggest mistake is follow your advice 😂😂😂😂😂
Makes you wonder if he's an Apple employee.
The base model is fine. Don’t waste your money on more memory when you can buy external memory
$200.00 for 256GB storage is ridiculous. Just get the 256GB model and get an external SSD.
256G is NOT too little storage....not if I plan to, and ALWAYS install my data EXTERNALLY for the past 2 decades. I have 256G in my work M1 Mac Mini and currently have 76g free after 4 years...I just install Adobe suite on there and nothing else. I rather use external SSD...since it has Thunderbolt anyway...in fact....I plan to use the money towards 24G of RAM instead.
Do you install all the apps on the external drive? Which ssd is ideal so as not to lose speed? I have a Samsung T7, is OK?
I do that too, but things do run better on the internal 'built in drive" IMO, I would never get a computer with less than 1T.
@@francescoliguori4708 Yeah, that'll work great! We use a Samsung T7 as our boot drive for our intel iMac and we haven't had any issues, so putting your apps in it will work (tho won't be as fast as the internal ssd)
The solution is just to install the OS on the external. My Mini Pro boots from a Thunderbolt enclosure and it just thinks that is the internal drive.
@ghost-user559 Which enclosure and nvme do you use? Thanks
What's a good USB-C monitor to go with the Mini? I'd love the Apple monitor but the price is eye-watering. Any suggestions please?
This
Doesn't need to be a USB C monitor, just get an adapter and buy any monitor.
Even HDMI is fine, but you can get a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter for $10 if you want 8k or higher refresh rates. Any monitor does DisplayPort nowadays. You can use the thunderbolt ports on the back for this, you don´t need a thunderbolt adapter or dock specifically, those are very expensive (because they typically do a lot of extra stuff).
You can buy any monitor or buy 2 “any monitors” to set up side by side to expand your ability to manage more!
I just ordered an M4 Mac Mini to replace my M2 Mac Mini. I already have the necessary adapters required that connect 2 Acer 24 inch monitors I bought years ago. In one of my previous projects I reviewed long Excel spreadsheets and a single monitor won’t do. I believe the Pro M4 allows up to 3 sided by side monitors to be used! 😮. I’ll be sticking with the 2 I already own.
My new Mac Mini is scheduled to arrive today. The only concern is that my experience with FedEx since 2020 has been problematic in that “today” for Fed Ex has meant up to 4 or 5 days later, with them erroneously reporting that they have “delivered to your address”, never saying what address they mean -while not actually delivering until the 5th day. Sometimes the delivery goes to the wrong house!!!
I tried to get it delivered to the store, but the company I purchased from only permits ‘home delivery’ for this new item.
I also already upgraded to the ‘touch id’ Apple keyboard to help maintain my sanity with managing passwords.
Thanks for the video!!!
Sharing with a few friends considering a Mac M4 upgrade.
@@kitturadior6935 Me too! I will replace my 2014 Mac Mini. It served me well for 10 years but it's time to say goodbye. It was supposed to arrive today, but DHL changed it at the last minute for Monday. I guess these are selling like pancakes so there is a bit of a mess with shipping.
Is there a recommended affordable 27" display that people are using with the Mac Mini M4, 4k and at least 120Hz? LG vs ASUS vs Dell, etc.
On Amazon there is a 4k Sceptre display for $179
Don’t get me wrong but 256 gb is perfectly fine. If it was a laptop I would say go for the upgrade and go for 1TB, but in a desktop computer, you’re better getting an external ssd
Good buyers guide. I am still using M1 Mac Mini with 16 GB and 512GB. Speed is still just fine for even video editing. I sure could use more ports and a 1 TB SSD. Also could sure use a SD reader port. Probably will wait till spring for the Mac Studio M4 Max.
Good idea! It's gonna be very fast! Might get delayed until June though
the problem is we want it, but many of us only use the internet, yes it lasts 10 years, but after how long do you desire the next thing. Maybe it's easier to stay 2 years away from the new thing and you're going to be fine. I have the M1 and love it, $2600 is way too much for using it for the internet. Yet I have it and I don't think a M4 will feel much different.
I got the M4 10 Core with 32gb of Ram and 1TB of storage... I use on average 22gb of RAM and 10gb of Swap according to the resource monitor and it flies on the web and launching applications. SUPER happy with it. It never spins up the fans. As for the button on the bottom, I have mine positioned on its side using a holder I found on Amazon. Keeps the unit's fan up on the side for better cooling and the power button more accessible.
I think the placement of the power button is way better than the previous chasis. It always felt somewhat awkward to turn that thing on.
I have a iMac 2020 and Never shut it off only restart once a week
Max please let us know in one of your next videos:
- how loud is the fan in the mac mini. I have a macbook air and it is great to have no fan at all - question is how noisy or annoying is the macmini regarding dezibel
- can I pin the mac mini on the back of a screen or does it create problems regarding the "swich on" button at the bottom
- how good is the soundcard in macmini M4- the sound in my macbook air is not good enough so I bought an external soundcard for 40 dollars which works great with my 5.1 soundsystem
- why should I buy a macmini with 512 GB of storage when all my files can be stored in an external storage (like usb-stick or in the cloud? for far less money)
Thank you !
Why do they always act as if you can no longer work with the previous processor when a new one is introduced?
So many people live with a standard M1 and have no problems, why should an M4, that is a lot faster, be just for light productivity work?
I am still using the 2012 version of Mac Mini. This guys sounds like being paid by Apple. It is a mistake to follow this guys recommendation.
Yes, this! The M4 base model is twice as fast as the M1 and even faster than the M2 Pro, which was recommended for professional use less than 2 years ago. It's actually 50% faster than the 2019 Mac Pro tower, which had a starting price of $6000. And now the M4 is for "basic web browsing and simple productivity" only? Complete bullshit if you ask me.
@@mojojojo1529 the base M4's Multicore results are even higher than for M1max
I am thinking of purchasing the Mac MIni and using it to travel since it is small. Is it wise to travel with one of these? I teach for University and have multiple tabs open using the OneDrive.
One thing to keep in mind is if your Apple Photo library is stored on an external drive the Time Machine won’t back it up. I like to have a full resolution copy of my photos on my system as part of my 3-2-1 backup plan.
My library is on an external driver because of my small internal storage. So I have to manually backup the Photo Library every now and then (and remember to do it). Not the biggest problem but something to consider.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS TIP!!!! please tell us more! i was planning on getting 2 External Hard Drives (for two backups for 3-2-1) and current working video projects on an external SSD. Then just backing up to the 2 Hard Drives for 3-2-1.
You can include external drives into TM-backups.
Google search “Apple photo library external storage time machine”. You will see Apple webpages warning against using TM for external Photos libraries.
My other suggestion is to export your photos in full resolution as individual files (rather than as a library database file) and save them on external drives. I had an old library (on an old hdd) that was unreadable by the current Photos app. Fortunately, I still had an old Mac that could read the file and create a newer version. Otherwise I would have lost 6K photos. I ended up adding the the photos to my iCloud Photos and synchronizing (merging) with my other photos. It took almost two months for it all sync. Note the size of my library is on the upper recommended limit suggested by Apple.
My photos and home videos are my biggest concern regarding data retention and lost. They are truly the only things that can’t be replaced.
You just have to add that drive to the list that Time Machine uses
@@pz4065Bingo
I bought the base model with an educational discount for 479. I plan on buying an external ssd for extra storage besides my nas.
Sorry Vadim, but you got this one wrong.
As a thousand other commenters are saying, with today's fast transfer speeds it's totally fine to connect an external SSD up to a base level 256GB MacAnything and get excellent performance and better value.
No need to overpay Apple. They already get far too much money from us!
I agree. I mentioned in a comment that both my iPhone and my Mac Mini have 255GB and I ain’t hurting for space either way. It’s all in how you use external storage.
not really, buying an nvme SSD with tb4/usb4 enclosure may cost around $150-$200 for 80-85% spped of Apple's SSD, which is by far the fastest solution you can get on the market now, not to mention the latency, overall performance, etc...
@@nzonal Right, but if you get a 1tb ssd, you're saving $200-250, plus the 256gb internal ssd for a total of 1.25tb. That's more than worth the trade-off imo
@@nzonal Why are you comparing the cost of a 1TB Thunderbolt SSD with a 256GB upgrade?
Compare like-for-like.
Do consider the annoyance having an extra device and cable hooked up spread over X years of use. Still worth the price difference? I agree it’s overpriced but external equals inconvenience for me.
Why would I pay Apple to upgrade to the 512 SSD when I can spend the same or less for 2TB external. I’m still keeping all that “memory” available. It makes no sense man.
Ya that 256gb storage is small. You’ll use up a lot just installing your apps. It’s nasty that Apple charges $200 for 512gb but no choice since it’s soldered.
I'm still debating on which one to get.
I do RAW HEIF in Lightroom on a weekly basis (personal photography, non-commercial). InDesign and Photoshop for work once every three months; along with some 4k 60 Log files in Premiere Pro.
After a couple hours of and a bit of research I think:
1) I would not bother to spend extra in storage. Rather to invest in a pretty good M2 enclosure - Acasis devices have awesome reviews.
2) I think it's better to spend the extra in RAM/Unified memory. However; I'm not sure about the chip...
Sequoia's always in between 5-6 GBs, add Apple lintelligence on to of that plus, a couple of tabs in the browser and iTunes//Spotify in the background. You're going to end up using how much?! 10-11 GB mayhaps?
Should I wait for M4 vs M4 Pro comparisons?
Any advise?
Thank you for giving out your thoughts, cheers!
256GB SSD is enough, get external SSD for cheaper and put those thunderbolt ports to use!
Hi.
I am a professional graphic designer. i bought mac mini 24 ram / 1 tb ssd configuration because ssd size and ram are important for me.
but after dozens of videos and reviews I started to think that I made the wrong choice.
should i continue with external hard drives and choose m4 pro 24 ram / 512 ssd or is m4 pro 24 ram 1tb ssd suitable for me?
If we think in terms of budget, there is a difference of 200 dollars, not fatal for me, but why should I pay more for less storage?
If we think on the basis of the adobe family, do you think I made the right or wrong choice?
I'm shocked to hear you saying that the $599 mac mini is not a good bargain. I have a Macbook Air M2 16GB RAM with 256GB SSD and an external 2TB ssd which I bought for $159 and I haven't had ANY issues with storage in my Mac. All my files are in the external SSD with some of them on the internal SSD for faster access. In my case, 2 years ago when I bought my Air, I preferred to add the extra 8GB of RAM and thank you I did because that was a game changer compared to the base 8GB in the moment.
Also, apps on MacOS can be installed in external SSD's so you can move the ones you use the least but you don't want to remove.
It’s not because of storage space, it’s because of speed on the M2 with 256gb it only has one flash chip, which makes it half the speed of a 512gb version, which has two chips.
@@pablovi77 that was changed on the M3 version, so he can’t tell if the Mac mini will have 1 or 2 chips on the base model. So, for now he shouldn’t tell not to buy the base model until this is confirmed.
We have the exact setup and I don't put any files on the internal drive except the ones I'm working on. With a 2TB M.2 SSD in a Thunderbolt 4 case, I'm have 2800+ GB/s. I have 64GB on my iPhone 12 mini and 128GB on my M1 iPad Pro. Never ran out of storage.
I have a question. I'm planning to buy the M4 Mini Mac. I have a 2K display. Will the M4 Mini Mac work with the non-Apple HD/2K monitor?
Yes
Any HDMI, DisplayPort, or USB-C capable monitor will do. For DisplayPort, you will need a $10 USB-C to DisplayPort adapter.
Thank you both. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
I plan on buying the base model for sure. I think that will do me just fine.
Guys need a suggestion - Is base Mac mini M4 is sufficient to connect 2 2k Monitor (one for stock trading and other monitor for personal task - not editing). Does buying M4 pro makes sense ?
I just ordered the M4 Pro with the $200 Option for upgraded cores. I added a 1TB Drive and 24GB memory I am mainly working with Adobe Lightroom Classic and Photoshop.
Sounds killer. I would have prob gone with more ram and skipped the cores. Might be old school thinking. =)
@ i thought about that too i have had a 16gb Mac mini M1 and my last mini was a M2 Pro with 32. Currently I am using my 8 gb MacBook Air m2 and things run fairly well if i only run LRC and nothing else. I monitor the memory usage and LRC hardly goes over 5gb. I work with 24 megapixel files.
yeah, like I said, old school. =) 2020 72" iMac with 128 GB if ram... and I have hit swap. Print designer, so run full Adobe CC, plus multiple browsers for web work, with dozens and dozens of tabs/windows. But that's prob an intel issue... wife and kids have M1s (mini and MBAs) and they run great.
@@JamesBond-fo6ow "old school" whats old school about an M4 Pro
@@estern53@estern53 "old school" thinking that you can never be too thin, too rich, or have enough RAM. Ive run 128 for years in my intel imac, and the thought of running less, say 64, scares me. Even tho I know M chips handle it different.
I'm considering getting the M4 with 24GB of Unified Memory and 512GB of storage for video editing. Do you think that setup is sufficient, or should I opt for the 1TB version? I primarily work off external SSDs.
If you primarily work with external SSDs, then the 256GB model is enough. It only has to contain the OS which is about 30GB, the rest can be on your external drives.
M4 with 32GB and 1T is the perfect spot. If you need a more powerful machine, you should get the M4 Max. Great video, Max! It did save me a lot of money.
So I should buy the iMac instead of the Mac Mini? Because I don’t have Mouse Keyboard and Display?
For a day to day user that has everything in the cloud, 256GB is more than enough. I still have over 130GB free on my 256GB.
Same. Completely agree. Also I have an external 1TB SSD always connected.
I am also using iCloud since years. We have a family account with 6 TB. My current MacBook Pro from 2017 has 1 TB. My part in iCloud is around 600 GB. I was planning for a Mini base model with 512 GB, but your post make me rethinking the decision.
Just look at how much storage you are using now. Gives you a good baseline. Everyone is different. I'm just annoyed they say buying the baseline is a mistake.
@@joejohnson8966 especially with Thunderbolt 5...so easy to just add the external.
Same mate
256 GB is enough if you know how to manage your computer space. Mac OS (sequoia) needs roughly 25 GB space. Set aside another 25 GB for Mac apps. You still have 206 GB space that you can use wisely. But if are buying a mac for video editing or music production then even 512 GB will not be sufficient. You can always connect an external SSD (1TB) that costs 1/3rd of what Apple is charging for 256 GB upgrade to use final cut pro - if in future you decide to become a TH-camr like Vladim (MaxTech) and give stupid advice to people who have limited budget.
I am about to buy a mac mini for music production and college work. Is there a big difference in the M4 16 and 24 gb ram or should I just save money and buy the 16?
Hi,
I am a Ableton & Logic user, with a M1 Mini 16Gb and i can safely tell you RAM is the bottleneck. Even with my basic 8 to 10 channel sessions, when i am just writing music.. the monitor app is always showing the RAM meter running at the yellow to orange threshold.
So..dont feel bad about getting 24Gb or even 32Gb if you want to future proof.
It is also very useful to run your VSTs from a different SSD, than your main and/or recording/reading disk.
So, think 2 or even 3 SSDs simultaneously..for those functions. And no need to go faster than a basic SATA SSD for that, as long as u tun the reading/writing on the native disk.
Makes it easier to work, too..
;)
It would probably be better and buy 24 or even 32 GB Unified Memory, especially if you're using software like NotePerformer Playback Engines that are memory hogs.
These guys think we buy Mac/pc for editing only..😂😂.. editing is not even 1% of overall computing usage
It seems like very few of these reviews are for "real" users. I do think it's about time that Apple made the base models with 16 GB of memory, making the base model more than enough for most people. The base storage of 256 GB is also pathetic for most people but most people also don't need the fastest storage on the market and can add considerably more storage than Apple's upgrades and for a lot less money. Finally, I'm glad that your editor finds the headphone jack more convenient on the front of the unit, but that doesn't automatically make it inexcusable for us to not like it. I plug my speaker setup into that jack and would prefer to have on the back, thank you very much. Hopefully when companies start making docking stations that fit these like the ones for the old models, this will be solved.
@ his view and review on hardware is okay but the use-case mention here are editing everywhere. Editing are not more than 1% overall in computing space .. there are tons and tons of other views which uses computers every minute of the day..
Mistake 1 can fix with an external drive (enclusure).
The M1 was more than fast enough for pretty much anyone who wasn’t doing professional video workflows.
Or 2d, 3d art/design also music
@@chidorirasenganz fine for all of those uses too. I got one when they first came out and could easily do real time multiple 4K workflows, modeling, music, etc.
@@jhalscott Are you talking the base M1 or the Pro or Max? I’ve had the base M1 struggle with Figma when too many tabs are open and my M1 Pro has it’s limitations in Blender. In fact the base M3 is more than 2x faster in Blender than my M1 Pro and the M4 will be as twice as M3.
@ base M1. There wasn’t anything in the workflows I used that wasn’t way faster than any Mac I used before, regardless of price.
@@jhalscott Ahh yeah that’s fair. I just wanted to point out that there are other workflows that can be bottlenecked or less responsive due to the performance of the SoC
I have an M1 Mac Mini which I use solely for running a complex Excel spreadsheet algorithm with several data variables. The largest of these has about 5000 numbers.
To run an optimisation exercise can take up to 30 minutes.
How much would upgrading to an M4 speed up processing?
Would upgrading to an M4 Pro or Max lead to a significant further improvement?
Does Lightroom and Photoshop really need the Max, or will you see little difference with the base model Pro?
You would be just fine even on the base model m4 (non Pro)
The display purchase is so stressful I will likely stick with iMac...thanks for vid
The worst performing Apple silicon Mac is the base level M2 Mac Mini with only a 256 Gb SSD and 8 Gb or RAM. This is because whereas the base level M1 and M3 Apple Silicon Macs implement 256 Gb of flash memory using two 128 Gb flash modules, the M2 implements the 256 Gb using only a single flash module. This means that SSD read and write speeds are limited to how much can be read and written to a single flash module. All other Apple Silicon Macs can read and write to two flash modules simultaneously.
I would really like to know is whether an M4 Mac Mini with a 256 Gb SSD has one or two flash modules. My guess is that Apple have learned their lesson and it will have two 128 Gb flash modules which will make it a very good Mac to buy.
I do not believe that adding external SSDs improves the performance of an Apple Silicon Mac. This is because a lot of important parts of MacOS such as the swap file needs to be on the fastest possible internal SSD.
That's largely to entirely irrelevant on the 16GB models and always has been.
The Logitech M510 mouse for $20 to $40 is excellent. Better than magic, it feels just right in hand in my opinion the best value mouse ever. In regard to storage, I just plug in external drives for multi backups.
I will buy the 256 variant.
Exactly like others said, get the base Mac mini, get yourself a USB C storage device for $100 or less easily. You don’t need Apple branded accessories for any of this. Just use PC parts, buy a wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse if you don’t already have one, and a standard monitor will do. If you’re even considering a Mac mini you probably have most of this stuff already.
5:36 You gotta pay an extra $100 for the Magic Mouse??????!??!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!??😆
No need to ever buy MAC peripherals, other brands are so much better and cheaper.
I’m sorry but if you are buying a computer for the first time in ur life then you have to invest into a keyboard and mouse. Also everyone and their mother has a mouse and keyboard that they can use with the Mac mini without the need to buy Mac peripherals. Get a Logitech MX key and Master. Apple makes great hardware and accessories but not keyboards or mice lmao.
My mantra when changing PC’s is to always buy the highest spec machine from your preference as you can afford, to future proof it as long as possible.
just get the 256gb and buy 1 TB Samsung T7 for $100!
I mounted my Mini under my desk, so the button on the bottom is actually an advantage. And, I bought the 512 Gig model and added a 1 TB external drive.
And get the 10GE network interface which is not selected by default - that's another 100$ but well worth and future proofing your network access.
You could also just buy a Thunderbolt adapter if/when you actually need it rather than spending more upfront when the *HUGE* majority of people buying the Mini don't have anything greater than gigabit networking.
@@jefferyG499 It will be more expensive than an actual 10GE port that is soldered on board and has its own data path.
If I want to do 1440p 60fps streaming and 4k 60fps recording at the same time what version of the mac mini would be best for me?
Apple - 256 GB SSD is same as 1 TB SSD on PC.
not 1TB but 1PB
Can you comment on media engine? My only focus is encoding time in H.265. Faster the better for me. 32GB vs 24GB, would encode faster or not really? Pro vs base M4 encode 2 vs 1 parallel streams no? Thanks!
Dont listen to this guy… he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Go watch another video on youtube
Thanks for a great video. I’m upgrading my Intel MBP. I run classes using ECamm, video and Keynote. I was going. To get Mini M4 Pro but do you think I’d be OK with mid M4 now? Thanks
Does this guy think I got money like him? … “buy the 512 GB instead! Don’t be dumb. Also you can get a 2T ssd storage, like is in the bio”
Been using the M1 Mini with 256gb for 4 years....its enough space. I backup everything external as all should do. I am also very happy with the thing, and its got good trade in, towards the new one.
I’ve a 2017 27” 5k iMac - a superb display. I’d buy a mini to get the speed upgrade, but I’d like to know if I can get the best of the screen using screen sharing. Your thought? I use Microsoft Remote to control my PC. It opens like any other app on my iMac, and it’s seamless. But for photo editing, not so good. My photo editing apps are so slow on the 2017 iMac which is why I’d like something newer and faster.
Thanks for the info about fume, not interested but I understand... what I really want to know is if the internal SSD can be upgraded after purchase?
Did you buy one and take delivery or just using stock images and Apple specs? Seems everyone is touting this without actually having the M4 in hand,
no benchmark tests, no teardown, just happy a lot of fluff that I could just get from Apple's website. Please do better!
great review! do you use photoshop? have you tried denoise AI? I'm looking for an opinion on that, my windows setup lasts more than 5 minutes to process one raw file's noise and a graphic card worth costs 400 so maybe it's time to move to mac... what do you think?
I’m new to apple products and was wondering with the Mac mini does it use apps like the iPad or do you have to buy actual software? Say for like Lightroom I’m planning on using this setup for photo editing and help would be appreciated 🙏🏼
My recommendation is to always buy the base model. M5 will outperform M4 Pro maybe even M4 Max. Save a ton of money and enjoy the performance
not to mention resell value. you’ll never get back that extra $200 you spent on a higher binned chip when selling the device down the road in a few years
May not be M5. Good chance M6 will outperform M4 lineup.
Can I use my old iMac as a monitor with a new mini?
I built my PC in 2018, it’s served me well but it’s approaching the end. The timing of these new Macs are verrrrry convenient!
I’ve never owned a Mac. I have two questions. How do I connect two LG monitors to this? Secondly I don’t play games but use photoshop, after effects and premiere. How are the performance specs of these compared with my i7 intel PC?
Any monitor is fine, the Mac is just another computer, it follows standards. You can use HDMI or USB-C monitors natively, and you will need a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter for DisplayPort monitors (it's $10 on amazon).
How fast your i7 is depends on the year it was manufactured. "i7" means it is a high-end processor, but every single Intel processor generation had an i7 model since 2008. In any case, the M4 will be faster, because it is faster than any i7 from any generation. How much faster depends on which i7 you have specifically. The M4 is even faster than Intel's latest generation i9 processor, the i9-14900KS, by about 15%. But that Intel processor alone costs $700, more than the whole Mac Mini!
@@mojojojo1529 Thank you
This is exactly the video I was waiting for thank you so much!
Please explain gpu in detail
1:- means Compare no. of cores equivalent with different nvidia rtx 40 series to get an idea because then it's easy to understand who switching windows to Mac (Except Gaming).
Ex. 10 core or 20 core gpu with rtx 4050 or 4060.
2:- explain How much gpu really required for basic task and how much for entry level professional and then for pro.
3:- Is is okay to buy mac mini because everything we have to buy extra from keyboard to monitor or instead buy Macbook pro.
4:- Can Mac support external gpu?
I just ordered the M4 model with the 24GB Unified Memory (it's $1,299 CAD)... should I save the $250 bucks and just get the one with 16GB Unified?
Er, 256GB on the Base is PLENTY .... Just use it as the OS 'ONLY' .... Store all your data on External Drives and/or a NAS ( As I Do ) I use the Desktop for 'In Use' Temporary Storage. Then, Before Shutting Down, All 'Required' Files are moved to the NAS Drives .... Are you 'On Commision' from Apple ! ! ? ?
Great video!! Fast forward to today, I use three 4K monitors off of my Windows PC. The monitors also have USB-C inputs. I also just pre-ordered the M4 Pro of the Mac Mini. I don’t want to use all three ports for the three monitors because I will be left with no rear T5 ports. Can I drive the three monitors off of one T5 port if ran into a USB-C hub and it yes, which hub?
would you recommend the M4 Mini for music as well? And if so, which configuration would work best for music?
For 4K Video editing would the M4 (non PRO) CHIP Model with
32GB RAM
512GB SSD be more than acceptable performance ?
Note : I dont foresee editing 8K footage. Apple pro res and footage from my Drone only
Thanks in advance...
dnt get fooled by others....even a mac mini m1 8 gb ram was sufficient in editing and grading 4k videos....i have used it in the past.
Yeah, I believe you will be fine.
I reckon you'll probably feel the need to invest in external drives, than upgrading because the CPU is holding you down.
;)
Here is how I put it when it comes to the price of the base model. I remember when we paid $599 for a Commodore 64 in 1980's dollars!! now look at what you get for the similar price now!
I have a M1 8GB 512GB Mac Mini now and it's still fine. Wouldn't it be better for me to upgrade to 32GB 256GB M4 Mac Mini for $999 rather than $1399 M4 Pro? (Of course with an external SSD)
$599 is unbeatable! and who says 256gb is not enough? the only thing important you need to know is that you need at least 16GB of RAM so you don't hit the page file too often. In fact, with my needs: browsing, watching youtube, listening music, do some programing and network admin stuff, most of my tools are in mb and all my files are in a NAS, so 256GB is enough for me, beside you can always attach an external nvme. The $100 10G is a nice update to speed up the transference between your network storage, but it's a little expensive for 10G for my taste, although an external Thb4 10G will cost you around $200. Or you can go for a 5Gb usb 3 10gb dongle for $30 (5gb is the negotiated speed, and usb 3 10g is the requirement for the usb 3 otherwise it will negotiate to 2.5G) plus you have to make sure your swith supports it.
$200 for an extra 256GB storage? That is not a cost vs benefits recommendation. Many here have been using 256GB for years without any problem at all. If you need more storage you will get far better value buying an external drive and if you go with a NVMe such as the WD_BLACK SN770 1TB NVMe paired with something like the ACASIS 40Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure you will have plenty of extra super fast storage for that $200. Plus the versatility of adding a larger drive if need be.
I'm gonna get the base model and if I'm customizing mine, I'm only getting a memory upgrade to 24GB.
Photo & Video Editor here, using an Intel MacBook Pro 13 2020 (Two Tb 3 ports), 256GB ssd, 8GB ram.
And I'm only using 151GB of my storage since I use a Samsung T7 for heavy stuff and movies.
Can I get the base model with 256 gb, disable the SSD swap memory to prevent extra wear and tear on the internal SSD, and then use a NVME brand name to use as my external storage?
What are your thoughts about connecting this bad boy to an OLED and using it as a living room Mac and gaming console? Are there other ways to take advantage of this beast of a machine in the living room?
THANK you..... Truly... the RAM was very helpful!
What would YOU buy for YOUR video editing?
I have the chance to get the Mac Studio M1 Max for the same price of The New Mac Mini M4 with 512gb, do you think I should get the latest updated hardware "Mac Mini M4" or stick to the studio version with M1 Max even if it's 2 -3 years old ?
Which computer will last for 10 years? I am still using my 2014 Mac Mini, which I believe is due to the fact that I invested in the maximum RAM and a 1TB hard drive when I purchased it. It was a smart investment. The Pro model is very tempting; with Thunderbolt 5, it seems like the best choice. After all, why get a computer with outdated ports? Is there a reason to avoid paying more now for future benefits?
For 10 years get the base m4 pro mini
You're still using a computer with a... hard drive?
Why?
@@pepsicolazero My research says to go Pro and 1 T drive, or do not but one.
I have a 2015 MacBook Air and it still works fine other than the battery life. It is the base model and I paid nothing to upgrade it. I still use Lightroom and Photoshop on it. It is slower now, but still very usable. I also have two other Macs, all base models with very good performance. It is better to upgrade with cheaper models more often to get all updates than pay thousands and change every ten years, unless you need higher performance for professional use.
@@Victoria.Delcourt I have always felt the opisite. I had a 2001 MDD until 2009, then a used Mac then Mac Mini and now I am going to get the Pro. I think that is a great savings.
I'm running my system with an M1 MBA with a cracked screen and using a Dell 4k display instead. 256gb storage, 8gb of ram. I'm fine with it. I don't do video editing, photo editing, high graphics games or anything that takes a lot of power. That said, I'm thinking of the base M4 mini with 256gb. I have multiple SSDs laying around with tb's of space. Why pay Apple for that? On top of that, just like with our iPhones and iPads, we have cloud storage that makes it easier to pass things around. And mistake #8, about mouse, kb and display? Isn't that the entire point of the mini that you already have those? If I could turn my 27" 5k iMac into a display I would use that but Apple made sure that wasn't going to happen as well.
Hello, I am interested in buying an Apple Mac Mini - M4 | 16GB | 512GB, do you think it can handle gaming? Type Fortnite, GTA Roblox, Apex,
Just buy a PS5
@ no I already have one, but I want a computer
Which 4K 27 inch monitor would you choose to go with the Mini?
LG monitors will most closely match the various Apple Screens. Something from the Ultragear line would be nice.
Just FYI, absolutely don’t worry about buying the 256gb SSD model. Since it’s a desktop computer, you can just connect an external SSD & never remove it. It’s a lot cheaper to do this.