3:01 Sorry! We did have a six bay many years ago but it wasn't technically a Lockerstor. We started with Gen2 because it shares hardware with the other Lockerstor Gen2 devices.
@@excalibur0582 Hey there! You were correct, but ADM 4.2 is coming out in a couple of days with the kernel enhancements needed to bring back compatibility to hardware transcoding with Plex. Thanks for commenting!
One possible benefit of the 6 bay over the 4 bay is the ability to use smaller, and therefore cheaper HDD's. A bit of quick and dirty math shows that I can buy 6 x 10 Tb HDD's = 60 Tb for $1620 Canadian vs 4 x 14 Tb HDD's = 56Tb for $2,080 Cdn. So, you get 4 more Tb for $460 Cdn less. Then account for the cost of the 4 bay vs the 6 bay chassis for your final cost comparison. Certainly the ability to expand in the future and the type of Raid that you use would have to be factored into a better, more in depth comparison but that would be for each user to compare for their own use.
12-14TB still the 'sweet spot' of cost/capacity even a year later...; got a pair of NEW Exos 14 TB drives for only $198 each...! Jumping to 16 TB adds $100 per drive....
Wow, those 4 nvme slots look rather tempting! It just might pull me away from QNAP lol. But I wish they had better AI in the photo software for object recognition. Good to see competition in the market!
I have on of these, and I highly recommend it,. except if you need some specific app not available. And with a 10Gbe nic it can transfer at very high speeds (provided you have a 10Gbe network)
I bought one of these for Black Friday, with budget 8TB drives. To tamp the noise, I added HushMat inside the top and sides. A 12" x12" pc is more than plenty.
Just added a pair of 4 TB NVME drives as a high-speed storage volume share (in addition to a pair off 14 TB Ironwolf drives), and, upgade to 16 GB ol RAM...; now if I can just find one of Asustor's 10 Gbe/NVMEX2 combo cards.Damn things always out of stock on Amazon , for weeks.... Love this NAS so far!
Interesting. Synology get a lot of love for their software but it seems like their hardware is lacking in comparison (though I'm sure still very good).
Late to the party, but , ordered one today, should be here in less than 2 weeks, about the time my three inbound WD Red NAS Plus drives arrive! Have a 2 TB MX500 must stick somewhere as well, and a smattering of 500 GB 2.5" drives I can temp install just to play with assorted file system configurations/RAIDS/BTRFS snapshots, cache drives (I have a spare 960 EVO, but, II heard this rig may throttle it to but one lane of PCI-e, which would only be 840 MB/sec or so...?) In summary, I blame this channel for todays $900+ expenditures, plus shipping!.... :)
NVMe or 10Gb/s: it is a bad point ! some users (like me) need BOTH ! Only 1 usb port at the back may cause issue when using a UPS A nice device nevertheless, maybe my next NAS if Synology continues to enforce their wn brand for NVMe...
Can you use the additional ram from the Asustor-606T in the newer Asustor Lockerstore 6 unit. My 606T unit died (MB on the unit defective and due to age of unit no replacement MB for the unit). Also If I take my existing 6 drives from the 606T unit and put them into the new unit will I still be able to access my data on the drives? Thanks for any input
Does the OS do unRAID thing where it powers down drives and cache to SSD first? Also wish it had k8s helm chart support but that's probably asking for too much 🙂
Does any one knows what is the speed of the m.2 slots? PCIe Gen3 x2? Or PCIe Gen3 x1? anyone done any transfer speed tests.? M.2 seams great at first, but I guess its limited to Cache duty. due to bottlenecks in the PCI and Network speeds. the major hamstrig injury is the 10GB card or M.2 card! Still probably one of the best avaible now.............Why can we just have everything we want, instead of 2 year old processors and half solutions! -------Please give us back the optical audio output, thats now only on the Flashtor?
Well. We certainly don't because our NAS doesn't support TrueNAS. Running the NAS device out of spec will void the warranty and we cannot provide support for modified NAS devices. We'd rather continue committing resources to bettering our software instead of committing resources to people of whom bricked their NAS device when attempting to mod it.
@@ASUSTOR_YT this NAS has hdmi port, why not? Freedom and versatility is most important for users:) If i can move my existing support in this NAS, i will order it right away ))
@@meccu19 Hi there. Our primary target market are people who want a NAS device that is easy to set up and just works. This is for people who need a powerful storage centre without the hassle of figuring out Linux commands or paying an IT professional to set it up. These may include home users, small businesses, content creators and more. This NAS device is not intended for tinkerers. Ensuring that user data is safe is our number one priority and that means we are cautious. Since the NAS device is built as an appliance, modifying it can cause severe or irreversible damage to the hardware, software, user data or a combination of the three. We are a smaller company and receiving support requests from people that have bricked their NAS because of an idea they saw on the Internet costs us money and takes away time and resources away from bettering our products and supporting customers with legitimate RMA requests. As a smaller company in a competitive NAS market, we need to make tough choices as to what markets we support and what features to support. Right now we have to choose features that are lower risk and high reward. This is how we maintain our high levels of trust with our current customers and our customers keep coming back because they trust us. We value that trust deeply. I'm sorry. Freedom and versatility to tinker with the NAS are important for some users, but not others and we're not set up for people that want to mod their NAS device and right now we need to continue forwards to maintain and build trust. I hope one day we can support DIYers. But it won't be today. Right now we offer ADM and all of its amazing features to make using, accessing, interacting with and storing your data safe, accessible and fun. Thank you for your comments.
Umm No, there's no comparison. The Synology DS1621+ uses both an AMD CPU which doesn't even offer decent transcoding and worse 1GbE. I mean seriously enough with these ridiculously dumb specs. In other words, Synology is like here's your expensive Ferrari with a two-cylinder engine and plastic wheels.
I just bought a ds1621+ ... The specs are nearly perfect. Only things I don't like are the limitations on "drive compatibility" and the m.2 slots are not 4x lanes (but doesn't matter since I won't be buying overpriced SNV drives)
@@DJaquithFL can't you put PCI 10GbE cards in that model though? Plus it's got a quad core modern chip, supports lots of RAM and 2x NVME caching. It's a nice box
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3:01 Sorry! We did have a six bay many years ago but it wasn't technically a Lockerstor. We started with Gen2 because it shares hardware with the other Lockerstor Gen2 devices.
Hardware transcodig with ADM 4.1 and AS67 series is not working with Plex/Jellyfin. Is this correct?
@@excalibur0582 It should! I'm not aware of any issues. I can look into it when I am in the office tomorrow and get back to you.
@@excalibur0582 Hey there! You were correct, but ADM 4.2 is coming out in a couple of days with the kernel enhancements needed to bring back compatibility to hardware transcoding with Plex. Thanks for commenting!
@@ASUSTOR_YT Thank you 😊
@@excalibur0582 No probs!
One possible benefit of the 6 bay over the 4 bay is the ability to use smaller, and therefore cheaper HDD's. A bit of quick and dirty math shows that I can buy 6 x 10 Tb HDD's = 60 Tb for $1620 Canadian vs 4 x 14 Tb HDD's = 56Tb for $2,080 Cdn. So, you get 4 more Tb for $460 Cdn less. Then account for the cost of the 4 bay vs the 6 bay chassis for your final cost comparison. Certainly the ability to expand in the future and the type of Raid that you use would have to be factored into a better, more in depth comparison but that would be for each user to compare for their own use.
12-14TB still the 'sweet spot' of cost/capacity even a year later...; got a pair of NEW Exos 14 TB drives for only $198 each...! Jumping to 16 TB adds $100 per drive....
Wow, those 4 nvme slots look rather tempting! It just might pull me away from QNAP lol. But I wish they had better AI in the photo software for object recognition. Good to see competition in the market!
Funny you say that. Looking to buy and lack of AI photo organization is exactly my concern with Asustor.
I have on of these, and I highly recommend it,. except if you need some specific app not available. And with a 10Gbe nic it can transfer at very high speeds (provided you have a 10Gbe network)
I bought one of these for Black Friday, with budget 8TB drives. To tamp the noise, I added HushMat inside the top and sides. A 12" x12" pc is more than plenty.
Nice review. Looks like Asustor has been making some hay. Good for them and looks like a nice choice with lots of options.
Just added a pair of 4 TB NVME drives as a high-speed storage volume share (in addition to a pair off 14 TB Ironwolf drives), and, upgade to 16 GB ol RAM...; now if I can just find one of Asustor's 10 Gbe/NVMEX2 combo cards.Damn things always out of stock on Amazon , for weeks.... Love this NAS so far!
Ok wow the specs on this are impressive. I'm going to cancel my DS923+ order
‘Weirdly compact’ is alright with me! Get some gel footpads to reduce the noise.
I built a 6-bay. Works nice with a Supermicro mainboard w/ 6 SATA channels onboard. Full ECC and a usable 18T RAIDZ2 pool, using 5 X 6T HDD.
How much? Rack mount so noisy?
What cpu, ram, case, etc? Genuinely curious!
It actually looks pretty tempting. Said by a synology user for over 10 years who is very dessapointed by the new lineup synology "+" series.
Interesting. Synology get a lot of love for their software but it seems like their hardware is lacking in comparison (though I'm sure still very good).
Late to the party, but , ordered one today, should be here in less than 2 weeks, about the time my three inbound WD Red NAS Plus drives arrive! Have a 2 TB MX500 must stick somewhere as well, and a smattering of 500 GB 2.5" drives I can temp install just to play with assorted file system configurations/RAIDS/BTRFS snapshots, cache drives (I have a spare 960 EVO, but, II heard this rig may throttle it to but one lane of PCI-e, which would only be 840 MB/sec or so...?) In summary, I blame this channel for todays $900+ expenditures, plus shipping!.... :)
I've just ordered one. Also 6x 20tb drives for just over 1400 dollars. Not bad
Good price!!! Iron Wolfs?
You found 20 TB drives for sub-$240? Wow. (Were the drives used?)
@@mdd1963 reconditioned
We get ripped of something chronic for this in Australia.
$799 in the US (AU $1,200) and $1,799 in Australia (US $1,200).
NVMe or 10Gb/s: it is a bad point ! some users (like me) need BOTH !
Only 1 usb port at the back may cause issue when using a UPS
A nice device nevertheless, maybe my next NAS if Synology continues to enforce their wn brand for NVMe...
Allegedly, there are 2 port 10 GbE/dual M.2 NVME combo cards that can be added......
Can you use the additional ram from the Asustor-606T in the newer Asustor Lockerstore 6 unit. My 606T unit died (MB on the unit defective and due to age of unit no replacement MB for the unit). Also If I take my existing 6 drives from the 606T unit and put them into the new unit will I still be able to access my data on the drives? Thanks for any input
@NASCompares I would like to see how to upgrade RAM from 8GB to 16GB in this model
Does the OS do unRAID thing where it powers down drives and cache to SSD first?
Also wish it had k8s helm chart support but that's probably asking for too much 🙂
Does it support 6 16tb hard drives?
I'm tempting to upgrade from my AS3202T.
Does any one knows what is the speed of the m.2 slots? PCIe Gen3 x2? Or PCIe Gen3 x1?
PCIe 3.0, according to their website.
@@thethirdman225 but PCIe 3.0 X1, for each m.2 I think
Cool
Does any one knows what is the speed of the m.2 slots? PCIe Gen3 x2? Or PCIe Gen3 x1? anyone done any transfer speed tests.? M.2 seams great at first, but I guess its limited to Cache duty. due to bottlenecks in the PCI and Network speeds. the major hamstrig injury is the 10GB card or M.2 card! Still probably one of the best avaible now.............Why can we just have everything we want, instead of 2 year old processors and half solutions! -------Please give us back the optical audio output, thats now only on the Flashtor?
I'd suspect one lane each...! (840 MB/sec?) (At least that's all my 5150-based MIni-PC allocates to even it's single NVME slot...)
Nvme are considered part of the array or intended as cache only?
YOu can use all for an array, or, one each for a read and/or write cache, and the remaining pair as a high speed array...; your choice!
LMAO .. Where's Waldo 6-bay??! Right behind your head .. 6 bay on the shelf!
Hi guys. Am I the only one who thinks Asustor Gen 2 (2, 4 or 6 bays) + TrueNAS is a winning bet?
Well. We certainly don't because our NAS doesn't support TrueNAS. Running the NAS device out of spec will void the warranty and we cannot provide support for modified NAS devices. We'd rather continue committing resources to bettering our software instead of committing resources to people of whom bricked their NAS device when attempting to mod it.
Is this device good enough to run PLEX movies? 4k movies?
my 5150-based miniPC plays them ok....
Can you run Unraid of this nas ??)
No. I understand that many want DIY options and I am working hard to see what we can do. But this NAS does not support UnRAID.
@@ASUSTOR_YT this NAS has hdmi port, why not? Freedom and versatility is most important for users:) If i can move my existing support in this NAS, i will order it right away ))
@@meccu19 Hi there. Our primary target market are people who want a NAS device that is easy to set up and just works. This is for people who need a powerful storage centre without the hassle of figuring out Linux commands or paying an IT professional to set it up. These may include home users, small businesses, content creators and more. This NAS device is not intended for tinkerers. Ensuring that user data is safe is our number one priority and that means we are cautious. Since the NAS device is built as an appliance, modifying it can cause severe or irreversible damage to the hardware, software, user data or a combination of the three. We are a smaller company and receiving support requests from people that have bricked their NAS because of an idea they saw on the Internet costs us money and takes away time and resources away from bettering our products and supporting customers with legitimate RMA requests. As a smaller company in a competitive NAS market, we need to make tough choices as to what markets we support and what features to support. Right now we have to choose features that are lower risk and high reward. This is how we maintain our high levels of trust with our current customers and our customers keep coming back because they trust us. We value that trust deeply.
I'm sorry. Freedom and versatility to tinker with the NAS are important for some users, but not others and we're not set up for people that want to mod their NAS device and right now we need to continue forwards to maintain and build trust. I hope one day we can support DIYers. But it won't be today. Right now we offer ADM and all of its amazing features to make using, accessing, interacting with and storing your data safe, accessible and fun.
Thank you for your comments.
Umm No, there's no comparison. The Synology DS1621+ uses both an AMD CPU which doesn't even offer decent transcoding and worse 1GbE. I mean seriously enough with these ridiculously dumb specs. In other words, Synology is like here's your expensive Ferrari with a two-cylinder engine and plastic wheels.
I just bought a ds1621+
... The specs are nearly perfect.
Only things I don't like are the limitations on "drive compatibility" and the m.2 slots are not 4x lanes (but doesn't matter since I won't be buying overpriced SNV drives)
@@diavuno3835 .. It has only 1GbE (125 MB/s) ports .. there's nothing remotely "perfect" about it.
@@DJaquithFL can't you put PCI 10GbE cards in that model though? Plus it's got a quad core modern chip, supports lots of RAM and 2x NVME caching. It's a nice box
@@dfgdfg_ .. For an EXTRA $250 you can, nothing better than double the price at half the performance.
@@DJaquithFL Absurd. 10GbE cards are available for ~$40. Synology on the other hand, welcome to unavailable proprietary cards for $170