So to simply put Must Build First: Reinier (only required at M+). Top Priority: Phraesto, Harak (Depends on what you need. Both are usable at M+, but S+ is recommended. They perform well in all scenarios/battle modes). Mid Priority: Talene, Scarlita (Again, it depends on your needs. Talene is best for DR, and Scarlita is ideal for PvP. Both require S+ and +15 to reach their maximum potential). Low Priority: Dionel (Only build this unit later on. He is only good in PvP and requires a specific comp to be even effective. S+ and +15 are needed). Don't Build (Waste of Time): Dunlingr, Berial. (You can consider building Dunlingr if you want to make your Dionel even more stacked, otherwise, there's no reason to build him)
Mine is currently M+ but no I don’t really regret investing into her first since she’s a viable DPS in a lot of different game modes and against different DR bosses
No regrets at all. She's rlly good on SA and am holding top2 on normal arena with a team with her so that's helpful too. I just brought her to +10. Wish i could have brought her to +25 but not enough temporal essence back then and now there's others priorities. Buts she's rlly good
Hypos really outshinning the celest heros, we need more ways to get star gazing it takes way too long to build these heros and stay competitive without spending.
@@naturalborndylla we don't get to keep up, and that's probably by design. I just got all my DR crew to S+ except Talene who's stuck at 1 copy... and then they finally bring out the p2w
The reason that Harak stops eating teammates after Talene is that she doesn’t give him the feast buff (since she’s not defeated). He will only eat again AFTER he gets the buff, AND it expires. So Talene works on bosses with minions who can give him the buff.
Me having an S+ Scarlita and still rocking at Arena 🤣 the fact that I only reason I build her back then is because she is the only woman back then (4 of them back then being Dionel, Scarlita, Reiner & Belial) 😅
@@αιχ-β1ν Not really? I find Phraesto strong as a new player who focuses more on DR causeI like boss fighting. Him being a great tank, working like thoran for croaker and having some nice dmg is awesome.
I think i'll wait until the devs look into the talene-harak bug, there is no way this is intentional and if they fix him stopping from feasting they might also fix her not giving stacks at the same time. On the same note has anyone tested if thoran causes the same issues with harak (stop feast/no stack)?
If you check, odie ult should get some energy when killing a unit. But he doesn't when killing talene or thoran. Same with harak, he kills talene or thoran but doesn't get the buff, because they don't actually die, he doesn't actually devour them. That's why. So we don't think its a bug, is just how it works
@matty3732 yeah you are right, i just did some testing with oddie so the no stack part shouldnt be a bug. Remains the issue of harak not casting feast ever again after eating an "undying" unit which is definitely not intended. Fixing this wouldnt change much since there is no reason tu run thoran or talene with harak anyway but it can cause some issues in pvp and if they release a new "undying" meta hero it will be problematic
I feel like we should be able to swap Cele/hypo heroes & not that seasonal ticket bs. Building one of them took a lot of time & money. And with seasonal buffs/skills there's no guarantee that your units are gonna be viable any longer
I’d say harak is only #3 if you spend money since he needs to be s+ and that’s 14 copies which f2p or light spending takes maybe half a year? Probably longer actually depends on what packages are sold and rewards are given out Edit: and while he’s great for DR there are other options which you are going to have anyways since they are used for just about anything else. A good lily may, talene, etc. sure he’s amazing at what he’s supposed to do but is it worth it to get those few ranks that will barely change your rewards and instead miss out on a good talene for all your aoe needs? I wouldn’t say so. He’s a reasonable 4th choice but talene is just much more needed.
So glad i was capped on shop stuff and just dumped all in on talene 2 weeks before harak, NOT. So, If my Talene is M+ 0/2, should I finish Talene to S+ first or immediately switch to Harak?
I love this game so much , all the new heroes we got in the season until now that you can summon whit diamonds are mid af, and we get a broken hypo , cant wait to build him 6 months from now and when i am done he will not be used anymore ...... ,
I'm f2p holding 160k guild coins and 200 stargazer orbs. I have Phreasto S+ 25 and no other Cel/Hypo invested. I was holding off to see whether to go all in on Talene, Reinier, or the new hero, and Harak looks more and more to be the play. What do you think for my situation? Harak over Reinier?
Wait until u guarantee S+ Harak. Otherwise ull feel very bad playing him at M+. Maybe buy some copy so that when u have enough, u can S+ him immediately😊
@@mikehugh7313 I have enough for 10 copies guaranteed, but a little bit of luck stargazing would get me the 2 I need... I suppose I'll hold out a little longer
as f2p my theory is: Renier M+ then Pesto 1 copy then Harak S+ then Pesto to M+ or S+ this way I can get max damage with less investment for f2p players. opinions?
Imo it's 1- phraesto 2- harak then whatever comes next, I'd put reinier behind honestly like maybe third unit to build, if you want to focus pvp a lot then 4- scarlita otherwise talene but only the current top 3 really matters for dream realm
Pesto one copy may not tank well when AFK stages go higher. Also for multi lane stages you can just probably hide in a corner and have Hewynn or Brutus off tank.
Honestly I enjoy phraesto first better. I will go for Reinier probably after I get phraestto M+. I find it better to have a good tank than another support. + I started recently and phraesto is really broken for afk stages imo.
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So to simply put
Must Build First: Reinier (only required at M+).
Top Priority: Phraesto, Harak (Depends on what you need. Both are usable at M+, but S+ is recommended. They perform well in all scenarios/battle modes).
Mid Priority: Talene, Scarlita (Again, it depends on your needs. Talene is best for DR, and Scarlita is ideal for PvP. Both require S+ and +15 to reach their maximum potential).
Low Priority: Dionel (Only build this unit later on. He is only good in PvP and requires a specific comp to be even effective. S+ and +15 are needed).
Don't Build (Waste of Time): Dunlingr, Berial. (You can consider building Dunlingr if you want to make your Dionel even more stacked, otherwise, there's no reason to build him)
thanks for summarizing 💯
Thank you so much bro
Anyone regret Scarlita S+ before Pesto/Harak like me? ⬇😭
Too late for me lol
Mine is currently M+ but no I don’t really regret investing into her first since she’s a viable DPS in a lot of different game modes and against different DR bosses
Me bro u.u
Got mine S+ +20 and the tasi talene meta started and she became useless in arena attacks on top of being used basically no where else 😂
No regrets at all. She's rlly good on SA and am holding top2 on normal arena with a team with her so that's helpful too. I just brought her to +10. Wish i could have brought her to +25 but not enough temporal essence back then and now there's others priorities. Buts she's rlly good
Hypos really outshinning the celest heros, we need more ways to get star gazing it takes way too long to build these heros and stay competitive without spending.
100%
Even as a light spender there is no way I can keep up with the Triple Hypo/Celeste comps at the top of my DR.
@@naturalborndylla we don't get to keep up, and that's probably by design. I just got all my DR crew to S+ except Talene who's stuck at 1 copy... and then they finally bring out the p2w
Well hypos are the Real p2w in this game, normal banners aint it lol
Excellent video from the man that has a closet full of gray T - shirts. 😂
1 shirt closet to rule them all
It’s just the same shirt.
This priority order is on point! Keep up the awesome videos!!! 😍
The reason that Harak stops eating teammates after Talene is that she doesn’t give him the feast buff (since she’s not defeated). He will only eat again AFTER he gets the buff, AND it expires. So Talene works on bosses with minions who can give him the buff.
"Number 2 is not Harak, it is still gonna be Phraesto"
Phraesto: "Yes"
After my Phraesto becomes S+ 15, he is really a monster and almost can't die & his damage outshines others except Lily May (my main carry)
Me who leveled up berial to supreme as my first cele/hypo :^)
Me having an S+ Scarlita and still rocking at Arena 🤣 the fact that I only reason I build her back then is because she is the only woman back then (4 of them back then being Dionel, Scarlita, Reiner & Belial) 😅
I think going M+ Phraesto -> M+ Reinier -> S+ Phraesto is the way to go.
If you heavily want to focus on endless mode then sure. But remember Reinier is still amazing pre-endless while Phraesto has no use there
M+ phraesto works fine
A new f2p would probably get M+ of one cell hypo by the time Endless starts on their first Season, so that's a consideration to get Pesto m+ first
@@αιχ-β1ν Not really? I find Phraesto strong as a new player who focuses more on DR causeI like boss fighting. Him being a great tank, working like thoran for croaker and having some nice dmg is awesome.
I think i'll wait until the devs look into the talene-harak bug, there is no way this is intentional and if they fix him stopping from feasting they might also fix her not giving stacks at the same time. On the same note has anyone tested if thoran causes the same issues with harak (stop feast/no stack)?
If you check, odie ult should get some energy when killing a unit. But he doesn't when killing talene or thoran.
Same with harak, he kills talene or thoran but doesn't get the buff, because they don't actually die, he doesn't actually devour them.
That's why.
So we don't think its a bug, is just how it works
@matty3732 yeah you are right, i just did some testing with oddie so the no stack part shouldnt be a bug.
Remains the issue of harak not casting feast ever again after eating an "undying" unit which is definitely not intended. Fixing this wouldnt change much since there is no reason tu run thoran or talene with harak anyway but it can cause some issues in pvp and if they release a new "undying" meta hero it will be problematic
I feel like we should be able to swap Cele/hypo heroes & not that seasonal ticket bs.
Building one of them took a lot of time & money. And with seasonal buffs/skills there's no guarantee that your units are gonna be viable any longer
I hope they make a cele/hypo swap ticket that can swap that said heroes from s1 up to now and not only in current season
I’d say harak is only #3 if you spend money since he needs to be s+ and that’s 14 copies which f2p or light spending takes maybe half a year? Probably longer actually depends on what packages are sold and rewards are given out
Edit: and while he’s great for DR there are other options which you are going to have anyways since they are used for just about anything else. A good lily may, talene, etc. sure he’s amazing at what he’s supposed to do but is it worth it to get those few ranks that will barely change your rewards and instead miss out on a good talene for all your aoe needs? I wouldn’t say so. He’s a reasonable 4th choice but talene is just much more needed.
So glad i was capped on shop stuff and just dumped all in on talene 2 weeks before harak, NOT. So, If my Talene is M+ 0/2, should I finish Talene to S+ first or immediately switch to Harak?
If you already have pesto, yeah you could leave her m+ and go for harak
I love this game so much , all the new heroes we got in the season until now that you can summon whit diamonds are mid af, and we get a broken hypo , cant wait to build him 6 months from now and when i am done he will not be used anymore ...... ,
That's why you hang on to all your scamgazers so when a new broken dude comes out you can go all in.
Which also is not fun.
More like 4 months. I am halfway with my pesto at 10 copies and i start with zero scamballs and guild points since i finished my scar last season.
I'm f2p holding 160k guild coins and 200 stargazer orbs. I have Phreasto S+ 25 and no other Cel/Hypo invested. I was holding off to see whether to go all in on Talene, Reinier, or the new hero, and Harak looks more and more to be the play. What do you think for my situation? Harak over Reinier?
Wait until u guarantee S+ Harak. Otherwise ull feel very bad playing him at M+. Maybe buy some copy so that when u have enough, u can S+ him immediately😊
@@mikehugh7313 I have enough for 10 copies guaranteed, but a little bit of luck stargazing would get me the 2 I need... I suppose I'll hold out a little longer
@@jankyjt9502 patience always win
@ plus, never assume you are lucky. You will be happier that way lol
@jankyjt9502 you need 14 total copies for a s+ cele/hypo, not 12
I'm from VN server. I got Reinier M+, and Scarlita M, so the question is should I focus on Phraesto right now or prior Scar to M+?
as f2p my theory is: Renier M+ then Pesto 1 copy then Harak S+ then Pesto to M+ or S+
this way I can get max damage with less investment for f2p players.
opinions?
1copy Phraesto dies easily, so I don’t think so.
Sonja is coming soon for being Harak food. Probably its possible to go for Harak first, before Phraesto. Even before Reinier.
I'm f2p and followed most guides that recommended scarlita as 2nd. Oof..
Now my Phraesto S± 15, i need Reinier / Harak but i hate their design. And still want to choose Talene 😂
it seems like the game devs dislike celestials. most of the top tier stargaze units are hypogeans.
Yeah i still need another tank for sa so still rolling for pesto
Imo it's 1- phraesto 2- harak then whatever comes next, I'd put reinier behind honestly like maybe third unit to build, if you want to focus pvp a lot then 4- scarlita otherwise talene but only the current top 3 really matters for dream realm
At that point its better to not just build reiner
Phraesto is the King. Harak is the Prince. Without the King, the Prince is nothing.
isnt technically the prince without the king going to be the king? xD
@@Niiiyo Technically yes... but he doesn't function well without Phraesto
@@RemiFoxin yeah i was just joking arround :D
Do you think is worth getting one pesto copy for afk stages and then get reiner to m+?
Pesto one copy may not tank well when AFK stages go higher. Also for multi lane stages you can just probably hide in a corner and have Hewynn or Brutus off tank.
Me watching this with a S+25 Scarlita
Same, and I do not regret it at all.
me too wkwkwk
Harak vs talene, I think harak win
im on reiner m+ and talene m+, should i stop talene and going for phaestro? or harak? or just go on talene to s+?
All s+ is the only way to go bro
Go for phraesto m+ then harak
It’s going to be hilarious if Harak is replaced by one of the two upcoming characters. Major cash grab.
The harak and talene issue sounds like a glitch they should fix
The mechanic with those two is the same with talene and odie. Odie wont get the energy back even if he kills talene. I don’t think it’s a bug.
Dionel can not be powercrept, because he is only going to get more powerful the more heroes that buff him get added to the game. @Puzzle.
Le Me who Maxed out Scarlita
Don't really like Harak's design. Anti-synergy - just uses your other heroes as food.
I do not like any of the hipos designs.
second？
The game already stuck and the developer must think something. Hope new update worth my time😊😊😊
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first!
Honestly I enjoy phraesto first better. I will go for Reinier probably after I get phraestto M+. I find it better to have a good tank than another support. + I started recently and phraesto is really broken for afk stages imo.