As a woman who feels weird dressing femininely, if I don't wear makeup people *will* ask my pronouns. Granted my hair is often pastel blue and I have tattoos and piercings, so I probably look like a liberal mascot😂, but it's floored me how much culture has changed.
This! The obsession with genitalia/gender is perverse and unnecessary. This needs to stop! I was a tom boy growing up and now im girly but I never thought oh gee lets change my entire gender. This is all craziness!
My dad taught me that masculinity is not being afraid to get your hands dirty, helping others, not whining about things and being the one to step up to something when it needs to get done. Some people think that it is just being strong and going to the gym, no, it is being a hard worker Edit: that applies to everyone
yes this is such a great point. you don't have to be Thor to be a man with strong masculinity. it's all about being strong and brave and not afraid to say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done.
One reason the gym is considered masculine is because it requires those qualities to be successful there, but you don’t have to go to the gym to possess those qualities. But y’all still need to get in the gym, women too.
honestly I'd rather be seeing people just accept men can dress pretty and women can dress masculin than try and pretend they are a gender they aren't. I think they are still being a bit "look at me!" about it, but I'm glad he's not delusional enough to think wearing makeup makes him a woman.
Agreed, some people think it's a conspiracy that people are trying to convince us that gender and sex don't exist but no, it's a guy dressing like a girl would usually dress, that's weird but it's not part of some bigger plot.
Maybe not so unusual. When I was young, there was a couple where the girl was masculine and the guy was feminine. Over 30 years later, I saw them still together in the old neighborhood.
@@elvickRULES : I don't know. They were in middle school when they first started hanging out together. Maybe even sooner. I don't think that was even a consideration when they first got together.
I’m a tomboy and people have been shoving the label lesbian down my throat literally my entire life. I’m just a woman. I can be a “tomboy” and be fucking straight at the same time and the world needs to back off and just let me be. Who I am is none of their business anyways so why do they care so damn much.
Yeah, I'm sometimes more masculine than my husband but we each have our own thing. I hate the fact that they need labels for understanding who we have atraction to, who the hell needs to know apart from ourselves?!
I find it really refreshing to see men who are very feminine but still identify as men, and same with women who are more masculine. It's okay to be a feminine man or masculine woman. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to chop off body parts.
*Conservatives are hypocrites.* They would be okay seeing a Tomboy, but not a Tammygirl. They would be okay seeing a girl in a Batman costume, but not a boy in a Wonder Woman costume. Both are wrong and a sin. But they only think the girls and women are free to do what they want.
I helped at a friend's wedding once - the florist was a "delicate" man with an eye for beauty and the confectioner who made the cake and the sweets was a very robust, strong woman about 2.5x his girth. They were the sweetest couple ever. (He didn't dress like a girl, though.)
I’m way more for people being like this than going through crazy medical procedures and changing their entire role in society because of their mannerisms. I’ve always been supportive of Tom boys or dudes in dresses. This is way more “be yourself” than “get surgeries, change your name, and take hormones to be yourself”
Absolutley, yeah maaybbe some way or another they like the attention. But this couple looks very authentic, and we all to one or another thing for attention, duh. But this feels right, they're finding themselves and don't care about any thing what they're supposed to be. It's sending a great message I feel like.
This is what I always say.. I'm all for people not sticking to gender norms. But it should stop at that. Surgeries and hormones and insisting you're actually the opposite gender just doesn't make sense to me. I think it's as sad as a woman who dies after spending thousands on cosmetic surgeries. Feeling the need to chop yourself up instead of just being a man in make up or a woman in a suit
well i mean it’s not really like what their doing is anywhere near the nature of transgenderism it’s just closes they don’t feel any discrepancies with their sex they’re just expressing it instead naturally like how everyone else does just not the same way
@@TheAstrologyVitamin You do realize it's society in how men/women have been told what to wear and how to dress, right? I personally don't see any issue with the way the couple presented themselves b/c as tsrocks2029 mentioned, nothing was forced. On top of that, hormone blockers can actually be dangerous (but no one seems to care enough to do diligant research on this matter). Who says you cannot be your true 100% self in your own biological bodies? As Brett mentioned, you can still be yourself without the extra fluff (meaning nothing needs to be added to anything). There will always be feminine looking boys and men out there and the same goes for masculine looking girls and women too. Given and I am not saying I am transphobic, but for those who are transgender need to learn to Accept & Underrstand that there are and will be transphobic people out there. And are you saying that you would be OK with a kid and/or teen WILLINGLY chopping off their dingaling area (for boys) or their knockers (for girls) in order to actually become the opposite gender? The majority of us know the gender reassignment facilities are only in it for the money and it wouldn't be promoted as much as it is now if they weren't. What the majority of us are against are kids/teens chopping off their own body parts since in reality, they don't have the mental capacity to make that decision for themselves. As a Teenager, they may feel like the opposite gender currently, but how would they know for a Sole Fact that they'd feel the same way by the time they turned 20 yrs old? Truth: No one knows this part as a sole fact.
This couple feels very authentic to me. like she just feels how she feels and he feels how he feels. she likes the stuff she likes and he's just into the things he is into, I honestly dont see a problem when their just enjoying who they are together and they found themselves. Feels like your projecting a lot into what you're seeing, you say "BE YOU",... bro. "THEY ARE THEM".
And yeah of course they do stuff for attention, everyone does that, even you do that. They show us that you can be yourself, and still have people love you. They're message is very strong I feel like, especially in this day and age where you cant wear a skirt as a men without being called they/them or she/her.
What if they’re trying so hard to be them that they’re forgetting to be THEMSELVES tho… in my humble opinion it seems like they’re trying to pull a politically correct cash grab because apparently it’s a sin to be bland and straight now
@@burnedtoast45-f6wTrousers/pants and shorts are for boys and men. Skirts and dresses are for girls and women. Please, stop with the double standards and repent before it is too late.
My husband is more feminine and I'm more masculine, but no where near to this level. But I honestly think they're a pretty cute couple though and appreciate neither of them identify as trans.
A feminine man or masculine girl isn’t too cringy. What’s cringe is how a lot of those types of people made gender into a “spectrum”. Being masculine or feminine is a personality, not a reflection on the gender.
100% it's part of character, interests and disposition and has nothing to do with gender expression or orientation. This is why "not liking the colour blue and superheroes" does not make you into a girl.
It's perverted nevertheless. A man shouldn't be woman like. It doesn't even make sense to call yourself a man but then act like the opposite. It'd be like saying it's ok for humans to act animalistic. It's like no, we have culture, societal constructs and beliefs, we can't just act like undisciplined, dirty creatures.
I actually don’t think it’s that perverted. I think they perverted a guy being good with music and a girl being good at keeping order as if those personality traits are masculine or feminine. Secular culture pushes people into the stereotypes. Things like meekness and being poor in spirit are not feminine traits. Throughout history guys we’re more likely to wear a skirt then pants so it’s not a perversion if a guy is so confident in his masculinity that he tries to bring back that look. It’s only cross dressing if you make it cross dressing. We should stay away from “lying” by how we dress. No, we shouldn’t try to look like the other gender and expect to be treated like the other gender, that’s a perversion of reality and down right LYING. But the outfit he’s wearing kind of looks like he’s a macho Jock from the 1980s. Think Slater from saved by the bell. If you took away their ridiculous understanding of what they are doing they are just a normal couple not sure how to explain themselves because of woke nonsense shoved at them. The reason why it might present itself as a perversion, is because they’ve been trained in all the wonky crazy woke ideology that says they are a different gender if they don’t fit sexist liberal stereotypes. I’m not saying they have it all worked out away from perversions or that they aren’t doing things I could actually pervert their relationship from what God intended, but if they are non-Christians this is the normal place that things used to be at and now they’re acting like it’s some unique thing that they don’t have to be gay or identify as trans just because she doesn’t want to wear make up and he thinks he looks good in a cut off shirt.
I never thought of Loki as 'effeminate' and I still don't. He's more suave; the type of man that is not masculine in the sense of being physically fit, and quick to try and fix everything, but instead he's able to charm and act like a gentleman. This means he leans more into being charming, a rouge gentleness that leaves a heart fluttering, while still teasing.
He's not feminine whatsoever, I'm dead sure people misunderstand what's attracting them, just to show you women don't know what the hell they want. It's just as you've explained it, his shtick is being elegant, charming, and deceiving, which are traits that come from an analytical person, not femininity. They think because he's a pretty boy and gives off a more caring aura he's feminine.
It's Tom Hiddleston and the English charm that makes him attractive. Nobody would simp over comic Loki. He was just an annoying villain, but we felt with Loki because he was presented so beautifully.
It seems that people got so focused on the puff Thor image that they forgot the sly fox image that is Loki. A man who uses his wit and trickery to win battles. They are both valid forms.
As someone who dreams of being in this kind of relationship, I'm so glad it actually exists. Maybe there's some hope for me! I just assumed I was a lesbian but I'm still interested in men, they just always end up being gay.
This is weird, but honestly, the fact that they are straight and not taking hormones and chopping off body parts, is refreshing. I'm actually ok with this. Its pretty funny too
@@biancaenera2500 I’m straight myself, so that’s not what I meant. I’m saying why are they happy with them being straight it’s like they wouldn’t be happy with they were another sexuality
@aja xoxo♡ wut no, I think they are trying to say, they are happy for them and how the boy understands being feminie dosent mean he is gay or trans, he is just a feminie man
@@kennethbridgford9592 they don't have to be normal just becuse you want them to be. Let them live their lives as they want to, they are not forcing anything to you
As a woman that was raised by a blue collar dad- I grew up more masculine. My husband was raised by a white collar mom- he grew up more in touch with his feminine side. He is STILL masculine and I am STILL feminine but sometimes our traits are swapped. It’s works for us!
@@princerak8881 a little more than tomboy- more like raised to be my dads son he never had. By the time I was a teen I was working on cars, installing fences, doing HARD work that even a tomboy would struggle with. I was raised to think and act like a man would. I didn’t let it confuse my womanhood/femininity as some do though
I love this! I miss the past where we were breaking stereotypes of what box your gender has to fit into and now we are putting the genders back in boxes and saying if you fit these stereotypes you must be trans/non binary/agender ect...Like good on them for being out there and defying all those stereotypes. They are happy being just who they are and I 100% think we need more people like these two.
Idk I really appreciate this. The man isn't claiming to be female. And the female isn't claiming to be male. The woman is attracted to the female temperament but isn't claiming she's a male because of it. And same for the male. This is actually the best way to go about it honestly. They're not the norm, but they aren't claiming to be something they aren't. I wish more people had this approach.
Exactly this. And Bret shouldn’t critique it in the way she has. This shows you exactly that many conservatives don’t mean it when they say “it’s ok to dress however you want and not conform to stereotypes but just don’t change gender or think of yourself as the other gender or promote transitioning “. It is all BS. They do have a problem with people non conforming to stereotypes in various degrees and perhaps that is why people choose to transition because if they “pass” they won’t get ridiculed or laughed at. I am disappointed she reported this video in this way.
I’m totally okay with this. As long as they’re leaving the kids alone and they’re not chopping off body parts and/or using the wrong restroom, I couldn’t care less how people choose to dress up/ present, whatever they want to call it.
Was looking for comments like this. I feel like I’m very in the middle with a lot of topics and I for the most part only see very extreme sides of the spectrum while online so Thank you for saying this!!
Although I get what you’re saying and im not “pro trans” I think adults have the right to do what they want with their bodies as long as it isn’t being promoted to the kids
@@beepboop2474 I think that chopping off parts and gender affirming hormones should be reserved for adults, with a severe case of gender dysphoria. Otherwise yeah, I'm all for people doing what they want with their bodies, including abortion up to a point... At a point it does become killing a child.
It's not even weird in a bad way. Just not something you see every day, so it catches the eye. Otherwise they aren't being toxic, screaming in your face about being marginalized, oppressed or under represented. They're just doing their own thing and are happy. Live and let live.
Well, duh! They're closing it for attention. As they would never get a family, they're not "losing time" pretending to be an (odd) couple for clout. They're riding with it as long as they get views
I really like this. They don’t claim ownership of another gender, they take high heels instead of hormones and they didn’t cut off any of their body parts or encourage others to do it. Love it! ❤
He's like a more exuberant Prince. He wore heels and flowy feminine looking clothes, yet women still loved him. This couple looks like they have a lot of fun. I just hope he's not sexually attracted to men as well and hiding it from her. I'm sure it's my own hangups that makes it hard for me to believe that this guy is purely heterosexual. Even if I didn't mind feminine guys I'd still be afraid that he's stringing me along until he's brave enough to be with a man publicly.
Odd how much the world has changed that we give people credit for not cutting off their genitalia. In my family the women are all with masculine men, but we definitely take control of most decisions. I figure the men either don't want the responsibility so they go along with what we want or they figure it's not worth listening to our bitching lol.
I feel like as conservatives sometimes we can be hypocrites because we say you don't have to change genders because you feel more masculine or feminine but then criticise or mock people for acknowledging their biological sex and just expressing that energy. I feel like we should be encouraging this 🤷🏻♀️
yea exactly. seems really hypocritical. if gender is JUST biology, why should that imply any prescriptive behavior... its just a naturalistic fallacy... unless gender is not biology alone, but 1 has a social and psychological meaning, and 2 is normative. having a penis doesnt dictate what kinds of clothing you find enjoyable to wear or find attractive for others to wear lol
@@Waterwave37 shes just pointing out the fact that they are going through so many hoops to show they are different even though they are actually normal. If they are a just a strait couple, then why are they getting the attention and views they are getting??? but they are not just strait, they are strait with a plot twist so they can get your views and attention. shes not hypocritical....shes just saying..theyre not being normal but being extra. just like so many other attention seeking strait/or gay people. "We cant just be normal straight.. we have to be fancy straight"
@@mikenance4713 I mean it can be both true that they’re genuinely enjoying dressing and presenting as they present, and that they acknowledge it’s considered different because of that to a lot of people, and take advantage of that for monetary benefits lol. If you know you corner a niche that people are interested in watching just because that’s who you are, why shouldn’t you take advantage. But the commentator wants to make it out like they don’t really dress this way irl, this is just fake, they’re doing it solely for attention. When they could just be getting attention, and taking advantage of that attention, without it being fake
Even with all the criticism, I myself see this as a "healthy step" for people who assume they are "gay" or "trans" because of their interests or how they reflect the current societal norms, and feel the need to make that their identity instead of finding comfort and confidence in being a straight man or a straight woman.
You didn't watch the end part of the video, or you just didn't watch the full video Because THAT wasn't her point lol Also come on CELEBRATING masculinity in Woman and CELEBRATING Femininity in Men, really?? Why not celebrate their Personality? Or how they treat others? Why is everyone something so obsessed with supporting people's identities and what they identify as instead of things that are more personal Idc what Gender you are, I care about YOU AS A PERSON, you can be a Male and be a good person or Not, you can be a Female and be a Good person or Not Gender or identity isn't something worth celebrating But that's just my opinion
You can disagree with the clothing choices all you want, but at the end of the day, most of us can agree that them not being trans because of it is fine.
No, what I'm not allowed to say on youtube (and this comment will probably get banned for trying to tiptoe around it), is the glaringly obvious fact that all of these people... ALL of them... are emotionally/mentally disturbed.
It's a lesson for both sides of the political spectrum, you all and the lefties gotta stop this dumb black and white thinking, the answer is ALWAYS somewhere middle of the road!
Honestly I have known about 4 women in my life who are attracted only to more feminine men or “the good boys”. They’re typically extremely confident and funny, including my mom. She told me she had never understand girls obsession with “the bad boy” trope. guess that’s why she chose my dad who’s a little bit feminine than an average man. They’ve been married for 25 years and he’s one of the best men I know. Guess my mom’s preferences weren’t so bad after all.
For every person there is a good match. It isn’t always what is expected but if you know yourself, and stick to what you like, you can have a successful relationship. I am a woman who defines herself by her competency more than her femininity. I needed a guy who understood my self reliance and took it not as a slight but an asset. I married a Marine. We live on a boat. He loves when something breaks and the other guys ask him if he needs to run home and he can say “naw, she’s got this”.
Brett keeps saying that “they shouldn’t have to put up a front of all this extra stuff” but I don’t think she’s realizing this is just who they are as a person and performing traditional gender roles would be putting up the front for them
I actually love this. I'm not a super feminine woman, even though I look typically feminine. My husband looks typically masculine, but has feminine personality vibes. We are very straight. I kinda get this relationship, lol.
I feel like this couple is exactly what we need right now because they perfectly embody that you don’t have to be “feminine” to be a woman and you don’t have to be “masculine” to be a man. This couple shows that people can be themselves and it doesn’t mean you have to be trans. They show you can be your “assigned at birth” gender and still live your life.
The thing is the guy still is masculine and the girl is still feminine. They’re just not playing pretend. That doesn’t change their gender. Thank God they understand this. I bet that guy is just as protective of her as any other guy would be who loved her. Doesn’t mean she can’t be physically stronger and still a real girl. Yes, he literally dresses like a 1980s Slater from saved by the bell, masculine is not in how you dress and while I am sure tough times or healing from tough times will probably make him develop more masculine traits, it doesn’t make him a women to retreat to more feminine things even if there is some thing there where he needs some healing. Although, it’s clear that so much of what the world would call feminine in him is actually good and manly. When women say they want a more feminine man it tends to be because society, secular society, has redefined what those words really mean. Women absolutely want a gentle, loving, sensitive, caring, thoughtful, meek (that doesn’t mean weak) man. That’s just biblical masculinity. Men are to love women so much that they should be willing to die for them. Who is to say this guy can’t love her to that level with a cut off shirt? In the same way women are to respect others. I bet she respects him more than anyone else does. 💕
I think European countries may have a better grasp at this. The French and Italians specifically comes to mind. A guy can care more about his appearance and a woman can dress ultra tomboyish. But they don't let it define them. Clothes are just artistic expressions of a person's personality. Their lives are not defined by it.
No, not true. Europe is different in many palces and not united, and Western part of it is Woke as hell, far worse then USA. I lived in both places, can compare. For crazy lol's I can bring up examples of woke "climate activist" who glu themselves to vintage Ferraries on one of Autoshow I was....They didn't do that to their precious EV's, no...Also EU is crazy influence by Greta..And in some country's are crazy woke festivals with LGBTQ+ alphabet people all sorts of. Thank god, not in my country... In Eastern Europe we just beat a shit out of that people if they are annoying on purpose, or just tell that they are idiots - and that's why here it never happened, unlike in Western Woke Europe...Since they don't understand word "no you can't -because its propaganda and idiocracy, denying reality" kind of words
I must’ve been Italian in a past life. My lifestyle and personality (frugal, pragmatic, low maintenance) dictates my clothing, practical, multiuse, unfussy, and understated.
"Just be normal." that IS the normal thing for them. That's where they're comfortable. Why not just let them be them? There's literally some couples like that here in the PH.
I'm a feminine man. I don't dress gay but I feel like I act gay, and even my friends (who are mostly girls) agree! But even though I get asked if I'm gay on a daily basis, I am straight. My self confidence has just dropped throughout my life as I've wondered if I'll ever "find love" as they say. I understand where this couple, especially the man, is coming from as I've been experiencing it for a while. It doesn't make it any less weird, but I see where they're coming from.
Hey uhhhh there are a million girls who are into that. I always think energies attract. I’m a much more dominant, goal driven, somewhat masculine woman, and i am into very feminine men (and other women). But the men with soft faces, sweet voices, sass…… HHNNNNNGGGG😍🙏🏻😍 like she said in the video it’s femininity we’re attracted to.
If you are being yourself then women will sense it's genuine and those who are a good fit will be attracted to that. Prince was hot and women loved him, lots of feminine men can be extremely attractive. Women are put off by the fashion fakers and autogynephiles because they're inauthentic and the latter are creepy. A naturally feminine man can be beautiful so be yourself.
I am kind of same(?). Raised by women, and think I adopted their mannerisms and channeled my interests through things they liked. Naturally it was severly bullied for it. The hardest thing was not knowing what to do about it. I didn't want to even behave that way. But when I had a genuine laugh or was excited about something it would come out for sure. Something that helped me was realising that all men 'learn' to become men. I was never taught how to be one, and that, I think, played a huge role. "Women become, men are made" as they say. Now I've learned how to react, walk and speak in a way that is more natural for men, and even though it was hard in the beginning it became second nature after it turned into habit. But it is a major point of insecurity. But that's the burden I have to carry, I guess. We all have our loads to bear in life.
Brett you said this about the feminine guy, “you don’t need to play the role, just be you”, but the truth is he IS being himself now, but it just doesn’t sit nice with what you think men should behave like. It’s awesome he’s found a woman who likes him for him. It’s easy to just make fun of the couple, but try and understand that they are being authentic. They don’t fit into society’s expectations or desires. The man is being himself, and in high school it seems like he was just being masculine to fit in.
@@MakeB711 "authoritarian" is more about how you value freedom than anything else. End of day left or right both have their view of how the world should be.... the problem is when they start passing laws in order to limit what adults / other people's kids can or cannot do, watch or say. It is not what you believe in, is what you do about it. At this point in history, conservatives are far less authoritarian... if that changes in the future you'll find me supporting another side.
exactly. what makes it even more ironic is that she doesn't seem very critical of being masculine. it's the same as if i were to judge someone for not being able to apply eyeliner properly, while i don't even wear makeup anymore. like, by her own logic, she's supposed to be girlier than ben shapiro's sister abby
@@Crawlingdreams418her problem is clearly the man too. Says men shouldn't chop off their dicks and pretend to be women, but then mocks them when they accept themselves like this
Honestly I love that for them I'd rather see more of this than people castrating themselves to become a whole different gender they will never actually be..
well, compared to Thor and most asgardians, Loki definitely stands out as less brutish, which is kind of a core bit of his character and his relationship with his brother
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with men wanting to be feminine, but I definitely think there’s something wrong with trying to put a man down for valuing traditionally masculine traits like strength and self discipline. If they’re not interfering in your life, don’t interfere in theirs
I wish them happiness in life. They might be exaggerating it a little for the cameras but I don't think they should get any hate, they seem happy together and that's what I want for any couple no matter who is masculine and who is feminine.
@@johnnycage3881 I don't care about interracial relationships. You might see it as gross but they aren't hurting anyone. In fact I think they are exaggerating a little for clout and to get attention.
@@Hiraghm Bro how is it wrong, its their life, they like each other. Who are you to say its wrong, your not even related to them. However it is wrong to expose this to kids.
Agreed. You can do whatever tf you want in your relationship as long as you are a consenting adult. Just dont start doing creepy shit like "hey kids we'll be your non binary online parents" or cursing out people for having different opinions
I like their attitude with this actually. Everyone always says "just because your feminine/masculine doesnt mean your trans" but then when there is people that are like "Im feminine/masculine and I'm definitely not trans" people are like "noo be normal" like something I've learned is that neither side will ever be satisfied. For the left, you will never be "diverse" enough and for the right, you will never be "traditional" enough. Something different about your personality/identity will always be a threat to the box you've set up for yourself. Everyone wants to be something or someone so bad that they forgot that it's okay to just be you. You don't have to fit into a specific "aesthetic" or archetype. Most people in the left are so afraid of being too "basic" that they are causing so much damage in an attempt to be unique. And a lot of people on the right are too worried about being seen as "strange" that will restrict themselves from acting a certain way or liking certain things that aren't considered "traditional." You don't need to drastically change yourself to be unique, just be a good person and people will come to like you, they don't need to like your pronouns, and you don't need to suppress any part of your personality to fit into a box. Gender itself ISN'T a social construct, but gender roles ARE. You don't have to fit into what everyone considers the "norm" but if you want to, there is also no shame in doing that. You can be an absolute butch lesbian and still want to be a stay at home mom. Or you can be a traditional christian straight woman and still be the primary provider for your family. Norms change with the times. Rich men a few hundred years ago used to wear makeup, frills, and heeled shoes. I don't see any real reason to make fun of people who don't fit the box you've put yourself in. But it seems like every time I leave a comment like this I always get at least one reply of "but its okay if they are a bunch of freaks" or "trust me you are just a kid and I know more about this than you" and if you read this to leave a reply like that, please at least get some valid reasoning before you go and try to start a fight. I'm tired of arguing with 35 year old toddlers. I just exercised my 1st amendment right and said what I think and I'm willing to debate if anyone will actually be mature about it.
I agree with everything its so true about no one will ever be completely happy what you do although I think gender roles aren't a complete social construct because even animals have them most of the time
@@arieltal222 Well even though animals aren't as intelligent and complicated as we are, their roles they play aren't always biologically related, but they definitely do some things biologically driven, but other things are just what these species seem to have figured out work the best for them. Cuz some people will make the argument of "oh well women are supposed to stay home with kids and men are supposed to hunt for the food. You can't argue with nature!" But not all animals are even like that, if that's nature's way then why do penguins do it the other way around? And a bunch of other animals will defy the "roles" humans have made. The point is that roles don't really matter. Just do what makes you happy. If fitting into that role is what makes you happy, then go for it. That was the whole point of what I said.
Thank you for this well-thought out response!! I think you’re the first person on the internet I’ve found who thinks similarly to me 😭 I think people can be who they want to be without needed to be so drastic. Everyone is a critic no matter how “normal” or how crazy someone acts. I think the left is pushing boundaries more drastically than ever and it’s a little bit too much at this point. There’s this societal phenomenon that happens which is similar to a pendulum, and I think things will swing back into balance at some point, but this radical and extreme leaning to the left is a result of the right wing ideals being so prominent in society for so long. I think that letting people give children hormones or operate on them young is wrong (literally in the case of intersex people, they are fighting against doctors doing “corrective surgery” at birth to assign them male or female bc often it hurts them when they are older). But I also think that if someone has felt a certain way for many many years and they are unhappy as a woman or a man, then they have the right to do that (as an adult, or at least past puberty). Overall, I think people should be allowed to just be! Who are we to dictate what their version of normal should be? If a man is more feminine and wants to present as such and vice versa, and they aren’t hurting anyone, then why should we criticize?
@definitely_not_sam6 and @judyrose6695 you are probably the people with the best opinions on the whole internet. Like fr if we could just mix the left and the right together in a pot it would be perfect.
Love them! And they’re so “I don’t care, we are gonna do what we’re gonna do” They aren’t doing it “just for attention” they are posting the extremes because it works.
My mom was old school Japanese (went through school in pre-WWII Japan.) This type of relationship is common enough she referred to it as a "flea couple" as the female flea is usually much larger than the male flea. I am not shocked that these two found a good match within a heterosexual relationship.
I am. I am shocked. They’re both clearly gay, but I have seen this before where people like this do date the opposite gender. I like to think they’re 90% gay with the 10% being the other person. But if they’re happy, great.
Aren’t you always saying it’s fine to be a woman who is a tomboy, but it’s a problem that a man has feminine characteristics while being male? I think it’s dope these two people found each other and what works for them.
They wont be happy for long. It is ingrained in women to respect and be attracted to masculine men and vice versa. Whatever this Arrangement is, it wont work out
I'm really not about revolving my life around what women find attractive. I tried to in high school and it felt very unnatural. I'm not very masculine, and I've made peace with that. I look around and don't see this shortage of masculinity that right wing commentators are so concerned about. Most men still take their masculinity very seriously. It's all good.
that's definitely a W, at least they didn't get forced to identify as an opposite gender that they don't feel like. I am still trying to comprehend the couple tho lmao (no hate to them)
0:39 Timothée Chalamet is useful. He hasn’t matured yet. He’s giving affluent. Which actually is more traditionally masculine in the old days. and what are you talking about? Harry Styles is a macho man. Just in a modern lens.
I think it’s actually good that this couple has more publicity - it will show others that you can have personal style preferences and a unique personality without having to “align” your sex/gender with it. At the end of the day, makeup and heels have historically been for men and women. Heels were for men first. Everyone wore tunics [aka “dresses”, if you want to call them that] in the past. Fashion is an external cultural concept. We’ve been culturally conditioned ever since we were born. What you like does not change the fact that you are a male or female. We actually tend to box people in and cause them to suppress their natural personal quirks and interest for the sake of fitting into their given cultural “category”. This is how we end up in the current crisis. Just consider - We have toys for girls called “dolls” and toys for boys called “figurines” or “action figures”. They serve the same function for the kids to play with. Just because a boy plays with dolls or a girl plays with action figures, it doesn’t mean they are not their given gender/sex. They are who they are - a child who wants to play make believe with characters. At its core there is no difference between these two toys to the child until we tell them there is.
Exactly. Preferences for dress have more to do with personality than gender. I’m a woman, but my personality is extremely practical and frugal. So, nothing too high maintenance, expensive (although I do thrift higher end clothing because it’s usually made to last longer), etc. I cut my own hair, do my own nails, and sew, knit and crochet, for the same reasons. I know what I will get, it will be done right and it is more cost effective. I also like to workout, purposely building muscle, and sing tenor. Does not make me a guy or someone who likes girls. Makes me a strong and sometimes stubborn woman who found her match in a Marine, someone who goes all in, appreciates my skill sets and outlook as an asset, and is as direct as they come.
The judgement in these comments is so disheartening. We constantly talk about how dangerous it is to think that women can be men and men can be women. Even Brett has said it’s ok to be a feminine man or a masculine woman. It doesn’t make you the opposite. For example, it’s healthier to be a “tomboy” than be a young woman who thinks they are a trans man. We should be ok with couples like this, it’s far healthier than pretending gender can change. And btw I say all of this as an average conservative woman who is only attracted to masculine men, I’m just saying it’s better to embrace non-stereotypical parts of yourself than to think you’re the “wrong” gender. Like shouldn’t we just be glad they aren’t castrating themselves?
Agreed. Dogging on these people for being themselves will only drive them into counterculture movements that promote medicalization of what's basically just their personalities
I left a very similar comment to this. I don’t get why Brett and others are bothered by this. It’s so much better he dress like a girl then call himself one. Don’t they get they’re pushing people into transition by telling them they can’t be a boy and like pink?
I agree with you, it's part of why I keep being a femboy hidden, I'm deathly afraid of the judgement and ridicule, I know I'm a man, I'm not trans in any way, I'm just a simple femboy.. what's so bad about that?😢
The other day when I was down in LA, I saw a giant dude wearing a very see through short dress and saw him wearing a thong 😭😭 I’m honestly losing hope in society bc I don’t think you should wear those sort of things in public especially if younger kids see that but Ngl he had very nice skin 💀😭
Personally, I've never had a problem with people of either sex showing some extra skin as long as their genitals are not also showing, even though nudity in general has never really bothered or affected me my whole life (it's a human body, everyone has one or the other and we all know what it looks like). My take is to just dress for whatever the current weather allows or demands. Based on biology alone, men should be the ones to wear skirts and dresses as they have the extra bits down there that don't really agree with pants in general.
This is just me thinking out loud, but what's the difference between that and seeing your dad walk around the house in his underwear, except that seeing your dad like that is more gross? What's the difference between that and watching men's swimming, where they're all in their little speedos? What's the difference between that and watching a National Geographic program about tribespeople in the jungle, where the men only wear a small piece of cloth and some leaves? Like the dude above me said, as long as their genitals aren't breathing fresh air and soaking up vitamin D, then I don't really see a problem. Showing skin in not inherently sexual, despite what the puritans and Muslims think.
@@carterholcomb1072 yeah but that kinda becomes debatable when said skirt is see through and they're wearing a thong in a public area that most likely has kids there. I think a non see through skirt would be much better y'know? And depending on his hotdogs size maybe slightly longer skirt
@@carterholcomb1072same I never really understood the obsession against nudity. I feel like nowadays only artists can see the human body without disgust or sexualising it
I'm going to push back on this one Brett. As a fellow short king, I think it's cool that we can break down these social constructs. I'm by no means feminine but a smaller guy and maybe attractive and I think it's cool that women are coming forward and saying they might have a taste for that. That's really what it's all about at the end, people liking what they like and society not being judgemental about it
This is an example of a video I disagree with Brett on. Usually she's better than Ben Shapiro who is completely authoritarian, at least, but she is definitely acting weird in this video for no reason.
agreed, my partner is a normal height guy and he often complains about being not tall enough. What for lol, I thought we are making fun of girls who only date guys over 6ft
I’m a Christian and I love this couple I think they are doing what’s natural and they happen to be outliers personality wise but they align perfectly ultimately and God can do a lot for them if they are in a heterosexual relationship. God bless them honestly I think they feel like they are living the best life they didn’t know was possible and they can have kids too. It’s better than being confused and trans or confused gay but not actually gay, just gay because there are no options they were aware of.
Good grief: It's a spirit, it's called spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6:12 anyone? In a few years they will have progressed to either just going full gay or something more kinky, why? Because that's how the enemy works. Please pray for them and study to show yourself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15
Even the basics of dressing as the opposite gender is in opposition to Christianity. And they seem to be living together premaritally. They are a straight couple who are focused on being different.
I truly don’t understand the obsession with “tradition” things that were traditional hundreds of years ago are no longer traditional now that’s how’s the world works, i love when people aren’t within the status quo and i love when people feel safe to express themselves
Another problem is that those pretend "traditionalist" look up to a fake past they made up in their minds. Things were neve the fairy tale they look up to, like, 80 years ago women who werent rich elite werent being super feminine and fragile, they were working manual labour in the farm, didnt have a say to the husband on wanting or not to have s3x or getting pregnant, having miscarriages and having children every year so there would be more people to work on the farm
The thing I'll never understand is how they say that masculinity and femininity are subjective but still come back to portraying objective truths about masculinity and femininity.
It might confuse their kids though.If they have kids in future or maybe they will grow out of it n realize u can just be normal.u can be feminine/masculine without having to wear the clothes.And u can be feminine/masculine n still be responsible dad n nurturing mom.
I really don’t like Brett’s take on this and being weirded out by it. These people are acting like themselves while also knowing that they can still be straight while defying gender stereotypes. I think gawking at them or calling it weird feeds into forcing people into boxes and says if you are slightly feminine you are gay. It’s actually like what trans activists do
Exactly what I have been thinking. Every time she talks about traditionally masculine men she always indirectly attacks men who are not traditional or more feminine. Also, she speaks ALOT about the declining testosterone rates and how lifting weight increases it. Firstly idk if she even understands the endocrine system. Levels decreasing are inevitable we live in an industrialized society. No one is lifting 1 ton of metal anymore. The Norm levels is fine actually, its only when ur levels are so low that it causes negative health outcomes and horrible symptoms. Also, Yeah exercising increases it TEMPORARILY for a little less then a day. Any form of Exercising in general helps with testosterone in men; however, weight lifting or resistance training is the one that causes the most elevation. She mentions it so much that she makes it seem like its a do or die. REGURDLESS Always stay physically fit and ensure your the best version of yourself period. - Pharmacy Student.
I wouldn't say _weird_ - I'd say it's "unusual". And there's absolutely nothing wrong with unusual. Good for them, they know who they are and are comfortable showing it in public - that's more than a lot of us are capable of. As long as they're happy together I don't think anyone should be judging them. And they're not judging others or pushing others to conform to their own preferences or personality traits. They're just out here enjoying life and each other, and that's awesome to see!! We need positivity like this cos there's _far_ too much negativity being lumped on us at the moment.
As a rural woman, i can't say that this woman looks masculine in any way. She looks completely like a typical strong, outdoorsy woman. Where do they get that she's masculine?
@@marycrawford9428 Well, i don't know you but think maybe you're saying you don't fit the media's model of feminine. Maybe that's not it-- sorry to presume. But as for myself, i feel that there's "feminine" as in just being a woman and naturally being you in a comfortable way; then there's "feminine" in terms of all the purchased junk that has gone with it for a long time, but much worse since mass media and advertising. So "feminine" in reality has nothing to do with painted fingernails and high heels and all those things drag queens like to take on, and i think the movement away from that "little metal women on the mud flaps" notion of femininity is natural and healthy. We just do what we do to be comfortable, happy, healthy people, and being sexy might be an aspect of it some or most of the time; but "feminine" or "sexy" doesn't necessarily mean sporting a bunch of purchased bling. At least for most of the down-to-earth country women i know. Only speaking for myself, though. Just musing. Thanks for your response.
I'll be honest. I am all for the leaner more "feminine" man as long as he doesn't dress feminine or wear makeup. I still like the masculine guy too. I am by all means someone who doesn't want the extremes. I am an equal opportunity lover 😂. Just be healthy or at least be trying when it comes to fitness. As for personality be a good honorable guy.
I completely agree with you! I’m more masculine than a lot of my girl friends and I’ve found a guy who’s a little more feminine than most guys. But we balance each other out well and still take on most of those traditional roles
I saw a video with some men that participate in drag races (they're not queens), some of them looked unhealthily skinny, your comment about health reminded me of that. For some reason drag races are considered okay even though pageants are considered shallow and outdated. Also there's something threatening to me about a man dressing in drag and that's coming from someone who is 5'8". But if they're playing a funny character I don't mind for some reason.
My thoughts are as follows: I'm a straight guy, but not masculine. I don't believe in traditional gender roles because it locks people in places they hate. I personally would not wear female-looking clothes because my barrel of a torso would not allow it, but I'm open to trying anything to make me look better than I do. I think that people can do whatever as long as it doesn't cause long-term harm to themselves or others, because ultimately they are the ones living with their choices. The guy in this video is far more extreme than I am, whereas I'm more of a 50-50% blend, which is very hard for people to deal with. I look like a typical Industrial/EDM-culture guy, but have a few distinctly female traits that throw people off, such as emotional awareness and conversation skills. In summary, good for them finding their partner, I think it's a good thing that alt-culture people can set aside their differences and try something new.
these people are doing the exact thing that I hope for people... just being a guy and a girl and living the way they are without feeling that they have to transition or whatever. I like it and they seem nice. you do you! oh and everybody online is doing everything for views... so unless you're not online, let's not judge :)
I'm glad they are making their relationship public. It might help many confused people to see they are straight in spite of having attributes of the other sex. It may save many people from getting body parts cut off. I think this is especially good to push back against those trying to push kids towards transgenderism.
“Transgenderism” ok boomer wtf 😂. Can’t help but mention trans people in every breath lol. Find something new to whine about other than people wanting to be comfortable in their own skin.
@@Draftspike is cus a lot of transpeople transitioning these days are in fact just gay. And many transwomen continue to love women, but don’t feel comfortable with their ‘roles’, wich makes them resent their image. There’s studies that the insula (part of the brain responsible for self-awareness, body image, empathy) of gay men and transwomen is practically the same, and different from ciswomen and cismen (that are overall very different from one another)
@@lizzythielen2406 on average most trans women don't look like biological women since surgery for that is incredibly expensive. Basically it's being told that you look like a very cheap knock off of a woman
Consenting adults not interfering with anyone else. Totally tolerant of this, there are bigger issues in the world today to talk about, like genocide and child sex trafficking.
I actually appreciate the "gayest straight couple" maybe they've finally come to a point where they can take the sexuality away from the style. They seem like best friends which isn't bad.
also, this is wild to me, to compare thor and call loki skinny/not strong. HAVE YOU SEEN HIM??? like he’s mega ripped, he’s just not ginormous like thor is.
I lean gay, but I identify as bi. And im not afraid to say it. Though I used to be on the straight end of the spectrum, but experiences have made me learn towards men almost exclusively
This is refreshing. There are a myriad of personalities, likes and desires. Women can be masculine and men feminine...we should be excited that our kids can see this and not question their body or their identity.
Oh yeah, Brett, we'll definitely quote you on "Just be you" to a video that is literally talking about a couple expressing themselves how they feel. Really well said 😕
These People are very respectable to me. They accept biological reality and found a perfect mate to have kids with. Although they are both weird, i reckon they might still be good parents. These people know what is real and what is their personality and make the best of it.
For years I have been saying that this is what was missing. Historically more "delicate" men have been attracted to " rougher" women. In my opinion the world is just self correcting (finally)
This is great i love this , me and my wife have some roles which don't align to our gender like she plans how to make the house better , even paints and fixes things and driving , while I focus on finances, cooking and cleaning . I do most of the heavy lifting though :p . We both work to survive this economy. We help each other and its a great partnership ❤
ngl my relationship is kinda like this. i'm a female but i kinda "wear the pants" in the relationship. i intend to be the breadwinner and i'm definitely a dominant person. my boyfriend is really feminine and more submissive, and personally I'm very attracted to submissive men, i cannot explain why. i don't think theres anything wrong with a masculine woman dating a feminine man. they're happy, and not hurting anyone with what they're doing
As someone who had a crush on both thor and loki, loki’s appeal wasn’t being feminine, I don’t think he’s feminine at all actually, he’s charming and confident, he has rizz.
I’ve been thinking and saying for decades, if you’re a feminine man just look for a masculine woman if masculinity attracts you- and the same goes for masculine women to look for feminine men if they attracted to femininity. Everyone was born in their correct body with their correct sex, just look for that person of the opposite sex who was meant for you. You might have to look a bit longer and farther, but your “meant to be” opposite half has been born (or at least been conceived) out there somewhere in the world.
Sorry honey but what you've been saying for decades is stupid. There is a difference between men and masculine women, as a gay male I'm not attracted to women at all romantically. If I were, then yes I'd be attracted to a masculine woman, but I'm not. Just because you say it doesn't make it true lmao 🤣... People who aren't gay just DON'T get it.
I’m a female blacksmith… What I like or what I don’t like has nothing to do with my “sexuality” and everything to do with my personality which most of these people seem to lack. They chalk it up to sexuality instead, which is just weird.
The girls saying that women are becoming the men that they want actually rings a bell. Like I want a man who is a provider in a protector and is going to follow through on what he says and is a go-getter despite all obstacles. And ironically I am that way whether it's taking care of myself or helping a friend or a family member in need
This is a really good point. My dad taught me all of the basics because he wanted me to be self reliant and supported me no matter what my interests were. Ir’s turned me into a well rounded, pragmatic, capable, therefore LOW MAINTENANCE, adult, with little need for playing games… because that is what I look for. Many guys take issue with me being intelligent, competitive, or whatever. It weeds out the insecure ones pretty quickly. I married a Marine. He wanted someone who was an asset, not a body to drag through life. I’m smarter, more detailed focused, better at efficiency, and a Jack of all trades. He is tougher, more visionary, more creative with solutions, better trained and stronger than me. Our skill sets complement each other and we look at ourselves like a team. Stronger as a whole.
I knew a couple like this at church when I was a kid. I was the flower girl in their wedding. He was super fem and everyone thought he was gay until they started dating. They were adorable 😊
We should encourage this all day everyday. This is what we want. A men dressing feminine and behaving feminine but not transitioning or pretending to be a woman. A straight he/him in a dress. But somehow this is also not good enough for some of yall. Just proves that no matter what, we are gonna continue being unhappy.
I totally agree with you. Some of them will still not be happy and try to create laws banning men wearing “Womens” clothing which is ridiculous. I thought we wanted small government?? This is why I no longer identify with the right or watch this type of content as much as I used to, we’ve become so authoritarian in the last few years it’s just too much. I don’t like any extremes or black & white thinking. I don’t know where I belong now but it’s def not left either.
I'm not seeing anyone calling out for prohibitions on this (maybe I have to scroll further). The point is, this is some weird optics and clearly amped for clout. They can dress however they want, it's their prerogative, but I can also point at that and say "nah, that ain't it, chief". The funniest and weirdest part of it is how they went "full circle" but in reverse
I think most of us are OK with this. The majority of the comments seem positive. A man like this does not appeal to me in a romantic sense but he would be a cool friend.
Ofc im not going to be okay with this im not going to eat a bush just to make you feel better and wanting gay yes there gay to hook up with the opposite sex is wierder and yes the guy is definitely gay idk ab the woman. You guys have unreasonable asks. Crazy asf
As a very masculine adolescent whos over 6'0 and 200 lbs while still being lean, if a woman picked me up against a chain link fence like that, id fold so quickly the flash would be the second fastest man alive
People forgot that you can just have a personality. Not everything has to be a part of your gender/sexuality “spectrum.”
but then hou would they be "quirky" and unique??? lol
Exactly. Some men are just more feminine than others and some women are just more masculine than others. That's not what defines their gender.
As a woman who feels weird dressing femininely, if I don't wear makeup people *will* ask my pronouns. Granted my hair is often pastel blue and I have tattoos and piercings, so I probably look like a liberal mascot😂, but it's floored me how much culture has changed.
This! The obsession with genitalia/gender is perverse and unnecessary. This needs to stop! I was a tom boy growing up and now im girly but I never thought oh gee lets change my entire gender. This is all craziness!
spectrum? i've only heard about the elctromagnetic spectrum!
My dad taught me that masculinity is not being afraid to get your hands dirty, helping others, not whining about things and being the one to step up to something when it needs to get done. Some people think that it is just being strong and going to the gym, no, it is being a hard worker
Edit: that applies to everyone
That's certainly some of the masculine energy traits, woman have that energy too.
I agree with your statement and sad reality is society and women like to take advantage of hard workers.
yes this is such a great point. you don't have to be Thor to be a man with strong masculinity. it's all about being strong and brave and not afraid to say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done.
💯💯💯
One reason the gym is considered masculine is because it requires those qualities to be successful there, but you don’t have to go to the gym to possess those qualities. But y’all still need to get in the gym, women too.
honestly I'd rather be seeing people just accept men can dress pretty and women can dress masculin than try and pretend they are a gender they aren't. I think they are still being a bit "look at me!" about it, but I'm glad he's not delusional enough to think wearing makeup makes him a woman.
Based and sensepilled
Hey if this a sign of slowly stepping back into what makes sense...Then why not lol?
Right there with ya. I think gender expression is a spectrum, while gender assignment is binary.
They are putting on a show. It's not necessary.
Agreed, some people think it's a conspiracy that people are trying to convince us that gender and sex don't exist but no, it's a guy dressing like a girl would usually dress, that's weird but it's not part of some bigger plot.
Maybe not so unusual. When I was young, there was a couple where the girl was masculine and the guy was feminine. Over 30 years later, I saw them still together in the old neighborhood.
that's very sweet. I hope they had a happy life and family.
@@BecketGrimm : I believe they are still together, 50 years after middle school.
Were both gay before they were together
@@elvickRULES : I don't know. They were in middle school when they first started hanging out together. Maybe even sooner. I don't think that was even a consideration when they first got together.
Still unusual, just not unbelievable.
Sweet story, though.
I’m a tomboy and people have been shoving the label lesbian down my throat literally my entire life. I’m just a woman. I can be a “tomboy” and be fucking straight at the same time and the world needs to back off and just let me be. Who I am is none of their business anyways so why do they care so damn much.
Remember, they don't recruit. Ya, right. Good for you.
People love to categorise.
Yeah, i questioned myself if i was a lesbian cz of the way i dress sometimes, but nope.
Same
Yeah, I'm sometimes more masculine than my husband but we each have our own thing. I hate the fact that they need labels for understanding who we have atraction to, who the hell needs to know apart from ourselves?!
There needs to be an alignment chart for these people.
This is chaotic straight.
Haha
Roll for dexterity.
He’s not straight, 100% that she pegs him.
Hahaha dudes stats are
-2 strength
0 dex
-2 con
1 int
0 wis
2 charisma
Lady is
2 strength
0 dex
1 con
0.5 int
0 wis
1 charisma
Both took actor feat
😂😂😂
@@Bdhdheksnsb yeah, therefore chaotic straight
This is so nice to see people just being who they are and don't feel the need to change their gender for that
@Elaina Mendez if you want people not to transition because they like certain things or a certain look, your logic is logic-ing.
Nah this is just weird😂😂😂
@@BELHARZ4 Yeah, transvestite that is. I know you're implying the gender term, yeah no, he's just a femboy while she is just a tomboy.
They are pretty normal to me 😂
imagine being a gay woman
I find it really refreshing to see men who are very feminine but still identify as men, and same with women who are more masculine. It's okay to be a feminine man or masculine woman. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to chop off body parts.
The right thinks otherwise.
@@archivez101 Yeah, like when the Daily Wire freaked out over Harry Styles posing in a dress a few years ago.
Yeah not at all. It’s just fashion at the end of the day.
*Conservatives are hypocrites.*
They would be okay seeing a Tomboy, but not a Tammygirl.
They would be okay seeing a girl in a Batman costume, but not a boy in a Wonder Woman costume.
Both are wrong and a sin.
But they only think the girls and women are free to do what they want.
@@archivez101The pro-Trump and the Conservative radicals who support their specific religion
I helped at a friend's wedding once - the florist was a "delicate" man with an eye for beauty and the confectioner who made the cake and the sweets was a very robust, strong woman about 2.5x his girth. They were the sweetest couple ever.
(He didn't dress like a girl, though.)
Wholesome
goals
so cuteee!
Sounds like couple goal for me. Cause, I'm not femine enough
Very nice
I’m way more for people being like this than going through crazy medical procedures and changing their entire role in society because of their mannerisms. I’ve always been supportive of Tom boys or dudes in dresses. This is way more “be yourself” than “get surgeries, change your name, and take hormones to be yourself”
Absolutley, yeah maaybbe some way or another they like the attention. But this couple looks very authentic, and we all to one or another thing for attention, duh. But this feels right, they're finding themselves and don't care about any thing what they're supposed to be.
It's sending a great message I feel like.
dude mind your business.
This is what I always say.. I'm all for people not sticking to gender norms. But it should stop at that. Surgeries and hormones and insisting you're actually the opposite gender just doesn't make sense to me. I think it's as sad as a woman who dies after spending thousands on cosmetic surgeries. Feeling the need to chop yourself up instead of just being a man in make up or a woman in a suit
well i mean it’s not really like what their doing is anywhere near the nature of transgenderism it’s just closes they don’t feel any discrepancies with their sex they’re just expressing it instead naturally like how everyone else does just not the same way
@@TheAstrologyVitamin You do realize it's society in how men/women have been told what to wear and how to dress, right? I personally don't see any issue with the way the couple presented themselves b/c as tsrocks2029 mentioned, nothing was forced. On top of that, hormone blockers can actually be dangerous (but no one seems to care enough to do diligant research on this matter).
Who says you cannot be your true 100% self in your own biological bodies? As Brett mentioned, you can still be yourself without the extra fluff (meaning nothing needs to be added to anything). There will always be feminine looking boys and men out there and the same goes for masculine looking girls and women too. Given and I am not saying I am transphobic, but for those who are transgender need to learn to Accept & Underrstand that there are and will be transphobic people out there. And are you saying that you would be OK with a kid and/or teen WILLINGLY chopping off their dingaling area (for boys) or their knockers (for girls) in order to actually become the opposite gender? The majority of us know the gender reassignment facilities are only in it for the money and it wouldn't be promoted as much as it is now if they weren't. What the majority of us are against are kids/teens chopping off their own body parts since in reality, they don't have the mental capacity to make that decision for themselves.
As a Teenager, they may feel like the opposite gender currently, but how would they know for a Sole Fact that they'd feel the same way by the time they turned 20 yrs old? Truth: No one knows this part as a sole fact.
You don’t even understand how confused I was when I first saw the title😂
Watching the video didn't help at all 😂
When I read the title I was like what a crazy oxymoron
The mental gymnastics i went threw trying to figure this out 😂😂
Next up the straightest gay couple ever
I thought I smoked some invincible weed when I read it
This couple feels very authentic to me.
like she just feels how she feels and he feels how he feels.
she likes the stuff she likes and he's just into the things he is into, I honestly dont see a problem when their just enjoying who they are together and they found themselves.
Feels like your projecting a lot into what you're seeing, you say "BE YOU",... bro. "THEY ARE THEM".
And yeah of course they do stuff for attention, everyone does that, even you do that.
They show us that you can be yourself, and still have people love you. They're message is very strong I feel like, especially in this day and age where you cant wear a skirt as a men without being called they/them or she/her.
@@FudiBaeggliyoutubers telling other media people to stop being an attention whore is so ironic
What if they’re trying so hard to be them that they’re forgetting to be THEMSELVES tho… in my humble opinion it seems like they’re trying to pull a politically correct cash grab because apparently it’s a sin to be bland and straight now
who feels how who feels??
@@burnedtoast45-f6wTrousers/pants and shorts are for boys and men.
Skirts and dresses are for girls and women.
Please, stop with the double standards and repent before it is too late.
My husband is more feminine and I'm more masculine, but no where near to this level. But I honestly think they're a pretty cute couple though and appreciate neither of them identify as trans.
A feminine man or masculine girl isn’t too cringy. What’s cringe is how a lot of those types of people made gender into a “spectrum”. Being masculine or feminine is a personality, not a reflection on the gender.
yes, it's too cringey.
100% it's part of character, interests and disposition and has nothing to do with gender expression or orientation. This is why "not liking the colour blue and superheroes" does not make you into a girl.
Exactly. There are 2 genders but many ways to present them.
It's perverted nevertheless. A man shouldn't be woman like. It doesn't even make sense to call yourself a man but then act like the opposite. It'd be like saying it's ok for humans to act animalistic. It's like no, we have culture, societal constructs and beliefs, we can't just act like undisciplined, dirty creatures.
I actually don’t think it’s that perverted. I think they perverted a guy being good with music and a girl being good at keeping order as if those personality traits are masculine or feminine. Secular culture pushes people into the stereotypes. Things like meekness and being poor in spirit are not feminine traits. Throughout history guys we’re more likely to wear a skirt then pants so it’s not a perversion if a guy is so confident in his masculinity that he tries to bring back that look. It’s only cross dressing if you make it cross dressing. We should stay away from “lying” by how we dress. No, we shouldn’t try to look like the other gender and expect to be treated like the other gender, that’s a perversion of reality and down right LYING. But the outfit he’s wearing kind of looks like he’s a macho Jock from the 1980s. Think Slater from saved by the bell. If you took away their ridiculous understanding of what they are doing they are just a normal couple not sure how to explain themselves because of woke nonsense shoved at them. The reason why it might present itself as a perversion, is because they’ve been trained in all the wonky crazy woke ideology that says they are a different gender if they don’t fit sexist liberal stereotypes. I’m not saying they have it all worked out away from perversions or that they aren’t doing things I could actually pervert their relationship from what God intended, but if they are non-Christians this is the normal place that things used to be at and now they’re acting like it’s some unique thing that they don’t have to be gay or identify as trans just because she doesn’t want to wear make up and he thinks he looks good in a cut off shirt.
I never thought of Loki as 'effeminate' and I still don't. He's more suave; the type of man that is not masculine in the sense of being physically fit, and quick to try and fix everything, but instead he's able to charm and act like a gentleman. This means he leans more into being charming, a rouge gentleness that leaves a heart fluttering, while still teasing.
It's almost like a backstabbing liar is a feminine trait...
He's not feminine whatsoever, I'm dead sure people misunderstand what's attracting them, just to show you women don't know what the hell they want. It's just as you've explained it, his shtick is being elegant, charming, and deceiving, which are traits that come from an analytical person, not femininity. They think because he's a pretty boy and gives off a more caring aura he's feminine.
It's Tom Hiddleston and the English charm that makes him attractive. Nobody would simp over comic Loki. He was just an annoying villain, but we felt with Loki because he was presented so beautifully.
@@joanneaugust6611exactly!
It seems that people got so focused on the puff Thor image that they forgot the sly fox image that is Loki. A man who uses his wit and trickery to win battles. They are both valid forms.
As someone who dreams of being in this kind of relationship, I'm so glad it actually exists. Maybe there's some hope for me! I just assumed I was a lesbian but I'm still interested in men, they just always end up being gay.
That's interesting.. 😊 I'm kind of gay, I'm not sure
@@danielobioma9091 well I hope you find the Butch woman of your dreams 😅and that I find the effeminate man of mine.
@@danielobioma9091 omg I'm so dense, let me start again.
Well hello there😏
@mariakhan7986 you made your move sista you will find the man you want and fits your type
Maybe you're actually bisexual?
This is weird, but honestly, the fact that they are straight and not taking hormones and chopping off body parts, is refreshing. I'm actually ok with this. Its pretty funny too
you’re okay with them being straight? Why are u trying to say…
Always gotta throw trans people under the bus for your agenda eh?
@@ajaazelle what's wrong in being straight, let us know?!
@@biancaenera2500 I’m straight myself, so that’s not what I meant. I’m saying why are they happy with them being straight it’s like they wouldn’t be happy with they were another sexuality
@aja xoxo♡ wut no, I think they are trying to say, they are happy for them and how the boy understands being feminie dosent mean he is gay or trans, he is just a feminie man
It's actually kind of refreshing. They're happy and not forcing things on anyone
Still nasty though. Worse yet it's a black man/white woman relationship.
normal would be refreshing
But unsurprisingly others are forcing their own beliefs onto them
That's setting the bar low my friend
@@kennethbridgford9592 they don't have to be normal just becuse you want them to be. Let them live their lives as they want to, they are not forcing anything to you
As a woman that was raised by a blue collar dad- I grew up more masculine. My husband was raised by a white collar mom- he grew up more in touch with his feminine side. He is STILL masculine and I am STILL feminine but sometimes our traits are swapped. It’s works for us!
So tomboy?
@@princerak8881 a little more than tomboy- more like raised to be my dads son he never had. By the time I was a teen I was working on cars, installing fences, doing HARD work that even a tomboy would struggle with. I was raised to think and act like a man would. I didn’t let it confuse my womanhood/femininity as some do though
I think it's completely acceptable and normal. I don't even think this is a story. They just being themselves, living life!
@Bar Nine Zarahemla Ranch tell ur god to fix them. And tell him to stop working in mysterious ways
@Bar Nine Zarahemla Ranch i don't live in the shityhole theocratic US, lol.
I love this! I miss the past where we were breaking stereotypes of what box your gender has to fit into and now we are putting the genders back in boxes and saying if you fit these stereotypes you must be trans/non binary/agender ect...Like good on them for being out there and defying all those stereotypes. They are happy being just who they are and I 100% think we need more people like these two.
Idk I really appreciate this. The man isn't claiming to be female. And the female isn't claiming to be male. The woman is attracted to the female temperament but isn't claiming she's a male because of it. And same for the male. This is actually the best way to go about it honestly. They're not the norm, but they aren't claiming to be something they aren't. I wish more people had this approach.
Completely agree, don’t see anything at all wrong with this.. it’s adorable really
@@julianmanyonga5078 yeah I literally went “aw”
This comment exactly!
Wow is the bar set low lately!
Exactly this. And Bret shouldn’t critique it in the way she has. This shows you exactly that many conservatives don’t mean it when they say “it’s ok to dress however you want and not conform to stereotypes but just don’t change gender or think of yourself as the other gender or promote transitioning “. It is all BS. They do have a problem with people non conforming to stereotypes in various degrees and perhaps that is why people choose to transition because if they “pass” they won’t get ridiculed or laughed at. I am disappointed she reported this video in this way.
I’m totally okay with this. As long as they’re leaving the kids alone and they’re not chopping off body parts and/or using the wrong restroom, I couldn’t care less how people choose to dress up/ present, whatever they want to call it.
My exact thoughts right here!
Was looking for comments like this. I feel like I’m very in the middle with a lot of topics and I for the most part only see very extreme sides of the spectrum while online so Thank you for saying this!!
Although I get what you’re saying and im not “pro trans” I think adults have the right to do what they want with their bodies as long as it isn’t being promoted to the kids
They're still influencing children to think this is "normal"..... so no, they're not "leaving kids alone".
@@beepboop2474 I think that chopping off parts and gender affirming hormones should be reserved for adults, with a severe case of gender dysphoria. Otherwise yeah, I'm all for people doing what they want with their bodies, including abortion up to a point... At a point it does become killing a child.
It's not even weird in a bad way. Just not something you see every day, so it catches the eye.
Otherwise they aren't being toxic, screaming in your face about being marginalized, oppressed or under represented. They're just doing their own thing and are happy.
Live and let live.
As long as no one is being forced to accept something, everyone can exist peacefully together
@@l_sx8722I don’t think their looking to be accepted but more so respected that yes we exist don’t pretend we don’t kind of thing
i love how brett says to "be you
Exactly lol
the point being that they are only doing this for attention and it is not who they really are.
Well, duh! They're closing it for attention. As they would never get a family, they're not "losing time" pretending to be an (odd) couple for clout. They're riding with it as long as they get views
Are they actually themselves tho? Aren’t they just confused?
soooo true
I really like this. They don’t claim ownership of another gender, they take high heels instead of hormones and they didn’t cut off any of their body parts or encourage others to do it. Love it! ❤
He's like a more exuberant Prince. He wore heels and flowy feminine looking clothes, yet women still loved him. This couple looks like they have a lot of fun. I just hope he's not sexually attracted to men as well and hiding it from her. I'm sure it's my own hangups that makes it hard for me to believe that this guy is purely heterosexual. Even if I didn't mind feminine guys I'd still be afraid that he's stringing me along until he's brave enough to be with a man publicly.
You're confused. Feminine men don't take hormones, trans women do
@@eyeballscratch There are no "transwomen." They are feminine men.
Still some nasty stuff though.
Odd how much the world has changed that we give people credit for not cutting off their genitalia. In my family the women are all with masculine men, but we definitely take control of most decisions. I figure the men either don't want the responsibility so they go along with what we want or they figure it's not worth listening to our bitching lol.
I feel like as conservatives sometimes we can be hypocrites because we say you don't have to change genders because you feel more masculine or feminine but then criticise or mock people for acknowledging their biological sex and just expressing that energy. I feel like we should be encouraging this 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah true , very true actually very well said! 😊
Yeah she's totally in the wrong on this one
yea exactly. seems really hypocritical. if gender is JUST biology, why should that imply any prescriptive behavior... its just a naturalistic fallacy... unless gender is not biology alone, but 1 has a social and psychological meaning, and 2 is normative. having a penis doesnt dictate what kinds of clothing you find enjoyable to wear or find attractive for others to wear lol
@@Waterwave37 shes just pointing out the fact that they are going through so many hoops to show they are different even though they are actually normal. If they are a just a strait couple, then why are they getting the attention and views they are getting??? but they are not just strait, they are strait with a plot twist so they can get your views and attention. shes not hypocritical....shes just saying..theyre not being normal but being extra. just like so many other attention seeking strait/or gay people.
"We cant just be normal straight.. we have to be fancy straight"
@@mikenance4713 I mean it can be both true that they’re genuinely enjoying dressing and presenting as they present, and that they acknowledge it’s considered different because of that to a lot of people, and take advantage of that for monetary benefits lol.
If you know you corner a niche that people are interested in watching just because that’s who you are, why shouldn’t you take advantage.
But the commentator wants to make it out like they don’t really dress this way irl, this is just fake, they’re doing it solely for attention. When they could just be getting attention, and taking advantage of that attention, without it being fake
Even with all the criticism, I myself see this as a "healthy step" for people who assume they are "gay" or "trans" because of their interests or how they reflect the current societal norms, and feel the need to make that their identity instead of finding comfort and confidence in being a straight man or a straight woman.
there is nothing even remotely healthy about this. This is just metrosexual on steroids.
I have confidence in that i'm a bi-man. That does not mean i have to make it my personality.
^^ Same as the guy above
Brett wasn’t right on this one. even if it’s odd to us, we should celebrate people accepting being fem or masc without having to use titles
You didn't watch the end part of the video, or you just didn't watch the full video
Because THAT wasn't her point lol
Also come on
CELEBRATING masculinity in Woman and CELEBRATING Femininity in Men, really??
Why not celebrate their Personality? Or how they treat others?
Why is everyone something so obsessed with supporting people's identities and what they identify as instead of things that are more personal
Idc what Gender you are, I care about YOU AS A PERSON, you can be a Male and be a good person or Not, you can be a Female and be a Good person or Not
Gender or identity isn't something worth celebrating
But that's just my opinion
You can disagree with the clothing choices all you want, but at the end of the day, most of us can agree that them not being trans because of it is fine.
No, what I'm not allowed to say on youtube (and this comment will probably get banned for trying to tiptoe around it), is the glaringly obvious fact that all of these people... ALL of them... are emotionally/mentally disturbed.
@@Hiraghm How is this a mental disturbance? I get them both being clout chasers, but how are their vice versa traits mentally disturbing for them?
It's a lesson for both sides of the political spectrum, you all and the lefties gotta stop this dumb black and white thinking, the answer is ALWAYS somewhere middle of the road!
Shutting down social media would solve 90% of our mental health problems
Yep
You are on to something!!!
Yes
Taking control of it back to normal people and washed people's brain back to normality based on facts and logic is the best way..
Realest comment I’ve seen in a while
Honestly I have known about 4 women in my life who are attracted only to more feminine men or “the good boys”. They’re typically extremely confident and funny, including my mom. She told me she had never understand girls obsession with “the bad boy” trope. guess that’s why she chose my dad who’s a little bit feminine than an average man. They’ve been married for 25 years and he’s one of the best men I know. Guess my mom’s preferences weren’t so bad after all.
For every person there is a good match. It isn’t always what is expected but if you know yourself, and stick to what you like, you can have a successful relationship. I am a woman who defines herself by her competency more than her femininity. I needed a guy who understood my self reliance and took it not as a slight but an asset. I married a Marine. We live on a boat. He loves when something breaks and the other guys ask him if he needs to run home and he can say “naw, she’s got this”.
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Brett keeps saying that “they shouldn’t have to put up a front of all this extra stuff” but I don’t think she’s realizing this is just who they are as a person and performing traditional gender roles would be putting up the front for them
It's more about the over-explaining aspects of their relationship.
I agree!
"We cant just be normal straight.. we have to be fancy straight"
THAT GOT ME DEAD LMAO
More like rainbow straight
at least they are normal...
@@DarkRaikon wdym lol
@@itsrubyjane.youtube you know a couple...no none-binary or trans..they just the new normal people....so be trans
@@DarkRaikon I was just quoting what she said bro it's not that deep lol
I actually love this. I'm not a super feminine woman, even though I look typically feminine. My husband looks typically masculine, but has feminine personality vibes. We are very straight. I kinda get this relationship, lol.
Same!
Same here.
This is a way more healthy couple than a lot of others today. They seam like they genuinely enjoy being who they like to be around each other.
❤ Girl, same.
Your husband dress-up as women too?
I feel like this couple is exactly what we need right now because they perfectly embody that you don’t have to be “feminine” to be a woman and you don’t have to be “masculine” to be a man. This couple shows that people can be themselves and it doesn’t mean you have to be trans. They show you can be your “assigned at birth” gender and still live your life.
Exactly!!
Yes yes yes
And you also don't have to be gay if you're a feminine man or a masculine woman
The thing is the guy still is masculine and the girl is still feminine. They’re just not playing pretend. That doesn’t change their gender. Thank God they understand this. I bet that guy is just as protective of her as any other guy would be who loved her. Doesn’t mean she can’t be physically stronger and still a real girl. Yes, he literally dresses like a 1980s Slater from saved by the bell, masculine is not in how you dress and while I am sure tough times or healing from tough times will probably make him develop more masculine traits, it doesn’t make him a women to retreat to more feminine things even if there is some thing there where he needs some healing. Although, it’s clear that so much of what the world would call feminine in him is actually good and manly. When women say they want a more feminine man it tends to be because society, secular society, has redefined what those words really mean. Women absolutely want a gentle, loving, sensitive, caring, thoughtful, meek (that doesn’t mean weak) man. That’s just biblical masculinity. Men are to love women so much that they should be willing to die for them. Who is to say this guy can’t love her to that level with a cut off shirt? In the same way women are to respect others. I bet she respects him more than anyone else does. 💕
@elena5816 Why no?
I’m so happy that they can just be who they want without being afraid and changing their gender
I think European countries may have a better grasp at this. The French and Italians specifically comes to mind. A guy can care more about his appearance and a woman can dress ultra tomboyish. But they don't let it define them. Clothes are just artistic expressions of a person's personality. Their lives are not defined by it.
No, not true. Europe is different in many palces and not united, and Western part of it is Woke as hell, far worse then USA. I lived in both places, can compare. For crazy lol's I can bring up examples of woke "climate activist" who glu themselves to vintage Ferraries on one of Autoshow I was....They didn't do that to their precious EV's, no...Also EU is crazy influence by Greta..And in some country's are crazy woke festivals with LGBTQ+ alphabet people all sorts of.
Thank god, not in my country...
In Eastern Europe we just beat a shit out of that people if they are annoying on purpose, or just tell that they are idiots - and that's why here it never happened, unlike in Western Woke Europe...Since they don't understand word "no you can't -because its propaganda and idiocracy, denying reality" kind of words
As an Italian I can confirm 🤣
I must’ve been Italian in a past life. My lifestyle and personality (frugal, pragmatic, low maintenance) dictates my clothing, practical, multiuse, unfussy, and understated.
"Just be normal." that IS the normal thing for them. That's where they're comfortable. Why not just let them be them? There's literally some couples like that here in the PH.
For real. People be wanting others to change their whole personality and wants
I'm a feminine man. I don't dress gay but I feel like I act gay, and even my friends (who are mostly girls) agree! But even though I get asked if I'm gay on a daily basis, I am straight. My self confidence has just dropped throughout my life as I've wondered if I'll ever "find love" as they say. I understand where this couple, especially the man, is coming from as I've been experiencing it for a while. It doesn't make it any less weird, but I see where they're coming from.
Hey uhhhh there are a million girls who are into that. I always think energies attract. I’m a much more dominant, goal driven, somewhat masculine woman, and i am into very feminine men (and other women). But the men with soft faces, sweet voices, sass…… HHNNNNNGGGG😍🙏🏻😍 like she said in the video it’s femininity we’re attracted to.
If you are being yourself then women will sense it's genuine and those who are a good fit will be attracted to that. Prince was hot and women loved him, lots of feminine men can be extremely attractive.
Women are put off by the fashion fakers and autogynephiles because they're inauthentic and the latter are creepy.
A naturally feminine man can be beautiful so be yourself.
I am kind of same(?). Raised by women, and think I adopted their mannerisms and channeled my interests through things they liked. Naturally it was severly bullied for it. The hardest thing was not knowing what to do about it. I didn't want to even behave that way. But when I had a genuine laugh or was excited about something it would come out for sure. Something that helped me was realising that all men 'learn' to become men. I was never taught how to be one, and that, I think, played a huge role. "Women become, men are made" as they say. Now I've learned how to react, walk and speak in a way that is more natural for men, and even though it was hard in the beginning it became second nature after it turned into habit. But it is a major point of insecurity. But that's the burden I have to carry, I guess. We all have our loads to bear in life.
@@vivianphillips768Vivian over here shooting her shot!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You are just gay
Honestly the way she transitions to the sponsors every video is so smooth😂
Brett you said this about the feminine guy, “you don’t need to play the role, just be you”, but the truth is he IS being himself now, but it just doesn’t sit nice with what you think men should behave like. It’s awesome he’s found a woman who likes him for him. It’s easy to just make fun of the couple, but try and understand that they are being authentic. They don’t fit into society’s expectations or desires. The man is being himself, and in high school it seems like he was just being masculine to fit in.
@@MakeB711 "authoritarian" is more about how you value freedom than anything else. End of day left or right both have their view of how the world should be.... the problem is when they start passing laws in order to limit what adults / other people's kids can or cannot do, watch or say.
It is not what you believe in, is what you do about it. At this point in history, conservatives are far less authoritarian... if that changes in the future you'll find me supporting another side.
exactly. what makes it even more ironic is that she doesn't seem very critical of being masculine. it's the same as if i were to judge someone for not being able to apply eyeliner properly, while i don't even wear makeup anymore. like, by her own logic, she's supposed to be girlier than ben shapiro's sister abby
Just be you means the version of you I believe is normal
@@Crawlingdreams418her problem is clearly the man too. Says men shouldn't chop off their dicks and pretend to be women, but then mocks them when they accept themselves like this
@@MakeB711 That comment was refreshing
Honestly I love that for them I'd rather see more of this than people castrating themselves to become a whole different gender they will never actually be..
This!!!!
I'd still prefer it to be the minority. It's just weird, but yeah, it's definitely better than gender pretending.
Amen. We need more couples like this. Its better than gender nonconforming kids being neutered just because they're weird
@@MsBrendalina Why do we "need" more couples like this?
@@odious5317 To show kids that being GNC doesn't automatically mean they need to identify as queer and/or trans.
I never thought of Loki as particularly feminine, he's just very composed..
Cause he’s more stereotypically British I guess?
Also yes, he has composure for days.
@@catherinebracy4332 not the britishness for me that does it, the character is just composed
well, compared to Thor and most asgardians, Loki definitely stands out as less brutish, which is kind of a core bit of his character and his relationship with his brother
Bit of a metrosexual type. Probably a term not too widely used any more!
He is more " Classic British" then Feminine, nothing Feminine about Loki.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with men wanting to be feminine, but I definitely think there’s something wrong with trying to put a man down for valuing traditionally masculine traits like strength and self discipline. If they’re not interfering in your life, don’t interfere in theirs
I'm just glad I'm in a relationship instead of a confusing relationship.
You're blessed my friend.
Yet u sound so sassy worrying about someone else’s relationship like you’re not happy in yours,,,. Calm down sir
@@beysmentssecuritycamera6013damn, project much? He wrote a super normal comment 😂
@Beysment’s security camera
Bro what are you on.
"It's complicated."
I wish them happiness in life. They might be exaggerating it a little for the cameras but I don't think they should get any hate, they seem happy together and that's what I want for any couple no matter who is masculine and who is feminine.
It's still some nasty stuff. On top of all that the relationship involves a black man and a white woman. I say this as a black man.
@@johnnycage3881 I don't care about interracial relationships. You might see it as gross but they aren't hurting anyone. In fact I think they are exaggerating a little for clout and to get attention.
@@johnnycage3881 yeah, you're racist, you being black doesn't change that
Holy moly johnnycage3881. Spotted the racist
No one can deny that this isn’t the norm. It’s weird? yes. Is it wrong? No. I’m happy they’re happy and they’re not hurting anyone.
is it weird? yes. is it wrong? Of course. "They're not hurting everyone"... other than society as a whole.
@@Hiraghm Bro how is it wrong, its their life, they like each other. Who are you to say its wrong, your not even related to them. However it is wrong to expose this to kids.
@@HiraghmHow is it wrong? Explain and make it make actual sense 🗿
@@Hiraghm
You could at least explain, how are they hurting society? Do you think they're contagious? That's silly.
Agreed. You can do whatever tf you want in your relationship as long as you are a consenting adult. Just dont start doing creepy shit like "hey kids we'll be your non binary online parents" or cursing out people for having different opinions
'Fancy Straight'
😂 This couple should start a merch line with that!
Awesome! I would totally buy it!
I like their attitude with this actually. Everyone always says "just because your feminine/masculine doesnt mean your trans" but then when there is people that are like "Im feminine/masculine and I'm definitely not trans" people are like "noo be normal" like something I've learned is that neither side will ever be satisfied. For the left, you will never be "diverse" enough and for the right, you will never be "traditional" enough. Something different about your personality/identity will always be a threat to the box you've set up for yourself. Everyone wants to be something or someone so bad that they forgot that it's okay to just be you. You don't have to fit into a specific "aesthetic" or archetype. Most people in the left are so afraid of being too "basic" that they are causing so much damage in an attempt to be unique. And a lot of people on the right are too worried about being seen as "strange" that will restrict themselves from acting a certain way or liking certain things that aren't considered "traditional." You don't need to drastically change yourself to be unique, just be a good person and people will come to like you, they don't need to like your pronouns, and you don't need to suppress any part of your personality to fit into a box. Gender itself ISN'T a social construct, but gender roles ARE. You don't have to fit into what everyone considers the "norm" but if you want to, there is also no shame in doing that. You can be an absolute butch lesbian and still want to be a stay at home mom. Or you can be a traditional christian straight woman and still be the primary provider for your family. Norms change with the times. Rich men a few hundred years ago used to wear makeup, frills, and heeled shoes. I don't see any real reason to make fun of people who don't fit the box you've put yourself in. But it seems like every time I leave a comment like this I always get at least one reply of "but its okay if they are a bunch of freaks" or "trust me you are just a kid and I know more about this than you" and if you read this to leave a reply like that, please at least get some valid reasoning before you go and try to start a fight. I'm tired of arguing with 35 year old toddlers. I just exercised my 1st amendment right and said what I think and I'm willing to debate if anyone will actually be mature about it.
I agree with everything its so true about no one will ever be completely happy what you do although I think gender roles aren't a complete social construct because even animals have them most of the time
@@arieltal222 Well even though animals aren't as intelligent and complicated as we are, their roles they play aren't always biologically related, but they definitely do some things biologically driven, but other things are just what these species seem to have figured out work the best for them. Cuz some people will make the argument of "oh well women are supposed to stay home with kids and men are supposed to hunt for the food. You can't argue with nature!" But not all animals are even like that, if that's nature's way then why do penguins do it the other way around? And a bunch of other animals will defy the "roles" humans have made. The point is that roles don't really matter. Just do what makes you happy. If fitting into that role is what makes you happy, then go for it. That was the whole point of what I said.
Thank you for this well-thought out response!! I think you’re the first person on the internet I’ve found who thinks similarly to me 😭 I think people can be who they want to be without needed to be so drastic. Everyone is a critic no matter how “normal” or how crazy someone acts. I think the left is pushing boundaries more drastically than ever and it’s a little bit too much at this point. There’s this societal phenomenon that happens which is similar to a pendulum, and I think things will swing back into balance at some point, but this radical and extreme leaning to the left is a result of the right wing ideals being so prominent in society for so long. I think that letting people give children hormones or operate on them young is wrong (literally in the case of intersex people, they are fighting against doctors doing “corrective surgery” at birth to assign them male or female bc often it hurts them when they are older). But I also think that if someone has felt a certain way for many many years and they are unhappy as a woman or a man, then they have the right to do that (as an adult, or at least past puberty). Overall, I think people should be allowed to just be! Who are we to dictate what their version of normal should be? If a man is more feminine and wants to present as such and vice versa, and they aren’t hurting anyone, then why should we criticize?
@definitely_not_sam6 and @judyrose6695 you are probably the people with the best opinions on the whole internet. Like fr if we could just mix the left and the right together in a pot it would be perfect.
this comment should get more likes
Their masculine and feminine energies are perfectly aligned and they are a straight couple. I think they’re a great couple
I fully agree
Love them! And they’re so “I don’t care, we are gonna do what we’re gonna do”
They aren’t doing it “just for attention” they are posting the extremes because it works.
My mom was old school Japanese (went through school in pre-WWII Japan.) This type of relationship is common enough she referred to it as a "flea couple" as the female flea is usually much larger than the male flea. I am not shocked that these two found a good match within a heterosexual relationship.
I am. I am shocked. They’re both clearly gay, but I have seen this before where people like this do date the opposite gender.
I like to think they’re 90% gay with the 10% being the other person. But if they’re happy, great.
@PrincessTheGuy why do you need to 'know'who they want to fk?
Yeah, I've seen many flea couple dynamics, typically if the woman has a more manual job (farming etc) while the man does a desk job.
@@AutomaticDuck300 nope, I'm like the woman in the vid, I prefer really effeminate men. Sure they usually end up being gay, but not always.
@@mariakhan7986 that’s an unfortunate preference because as you said, many are gay. Some might be bi though.
I love how you're not afraid of offending anyone. Preach girl!
Aren’t you always saying it’s fine to be a woman who is a tomboy, but it’s a problem that a man has feminine characteristics while being male? I think it’s dope these two people found each other and what works for them.
Fr she's such a pick me girl 💀
well what are his “feminine characteristics” then lol….
They wont be happy for long. It is ingrained in women to respect and be attracted to masculine men and vice versa.
Whatever this Arrangement is, it wont work out
@@nes7256fr
I'm really not about revolving my life around what women find attractive. I tried to in high school and it felt very unnatural.
I'm not very masculine, and I've made peace with that.
I look around and don't see this shortage of masculinity that right wing commentators are so concerned about. Most men still take their masculinity very seriously. It's all good.
I really like that couple. This actually has made sense to me for a long time. Weird people can love Weird people, and it's beautiful
Okay… but at least they are staying in the genders like the man is still saying he is a man and the women is still saying she is a women
Lol the fact we have to point this out as some success! But yes I understand and agree
that's definitely a W, at least they didn't get forced to identify as an opposite gender that they don't feel like.
I am still trying to comprehend the couple tho lmao (no hate to them)
The bar is very low lately
0:39 Timothée Chalamet is useful. He hasn’t matured yet. He’s giving affluent. Which actually is more traditionally masculine in the old days. and what are you talking about? Harry Styles is a macho man. Just in a modern lens.
I think it’s actually good that this couple has more publicity - it will show others that you can have personal style preferences and a unique personality without having to “align” your sex/gender with it. At the end of the day, makeup and heels have historically been for men and women. Heels were for men first. Everyone wore tunics [aka “dresses”, if you want to call them that] in the past. Fashion is an external cultural concept. We’ve been culturally conditioned ever since we were born. What you like does not change the fact that you are a male or female. We actually tend to box people in and cause them to suppress their natural personal quirks and interest for the sake of fitting into their given cultural “category”. This is how we end up in the current crisis.
Just consider - We have toys for girls called “dolls” and toys for boys called “figurines” or “action figures”. They serve the same function for the kids to play with. Just because a boy plays with dolls or a girl plays with action figures, it doesn’t mean they are not their given gender/sex. They are who they are - a child who wants to play make believe with characters. At its core there is no difference between these two toys to the child until we tell them there is.
Exactly. Preferences for dress have more to do with personality than gender. I’m a woman, but my personality is extremely practical and frugal. So, nothing too high maintenance, expensive (although I do thrift higher end clothing because it’s usually made to last longer), etc. I cut my own hair, do my own nails, and sew, knit and crochet, for the same reasons. I know what I will get, it will be done right and it is more cost effective. I also like to workout, purposely building muscle, and sing tenor. Does not make me a guy or someone who likes girls. Makes me a strong and sometimes stubborn woman who found her match in a Marine, someone who goes all in, appreciates my skill sets and outlook as an asset, and is as direct as they come.
The judgement in these comments is so disheartening. We constantly talk about how dangerous it is to think that women can be men and men can be women. Even Brett has said it’s ok to be a feminine man or a masculine woman. It doesn’t make you the opposite. For example, it’s healthier to be a “tomboy” than be a young woman who thinks they are a trans man. We should be ok with couples like this, it’s far healthier than pretending gender can change. And btw I say all of this as an average conservative woman who is only attracted to masculine men, I’m just saying it’s better to embrace non-stereotypical parts of yourself than to think you’re the “wrong” gender. Like shouldn’t we just be glad they aren’t castrating themselves?
It’s true. Why can tomboys exist but femboys can’t? Petition to bring back long hair for guys.
Agreed. Dogging on these people for being themselves will only drive them into counterculture movements that promote medicalization of what's basically just their personalities
@@DrawinskyMoon Agreed, sayeth the guy with long hair but isn't a femboy.
I left a very similar comment to this. I don’t get why Brett and others are bothered by this. It’s so much better he dress like a girl then call himself one. Don’t they get they’re pushing people into transition by telling them they can’t be a boy and like pink?
I agree with you, it's part of why I keep being a femboy hidden, I'm deathly afraid of the judgement and ridicule, I know I'm a man, I'm not trans in any way, I'm just a simple femboy.. what's so bad about that?😢
The other day when I was down in LA, I saw a giant dude wearing a very see through short dress and saw him wearing a thong 😭😭 I’m honestly losing hope in society bc I don’t think you should wear those sort of things in public especially if younger kids see that but Ngl he had very nice skin 💀😭
Personally, I've never had a problem with people of either sex showing some extra skin as long as their genitals are not also showing, even though nudity in general has never really bothered or affected me my whole life (it's a human body, everyone has one or the other and we all know what it looks like).
My take is to just dress for whatever the current weather allows or demands. Based on biology alone, men should be the ones to wear skirts and dresses as they have the extra bits down there that don't really agree with pants in general.
😂😂😂😂😂
This is just me thinking out loud, but what's the difference between that and seeing your dad walk around the house in his underwear, except that seeing your dad like that is more gross? What's the difference between that and watching men's swimming, where they're all in their little speedos? What's the difference between that and watching a National Geographic program about tribespeople in the jungle, where the men only wear a small piece of cloth and some leaves? Like the dude above me said, as long as their genitals aren't breathing fresh air and soaking up vitamin D, then I don't really see a problem. Showing skin in not inherently sexual, despite what the puritans and Muslims think.
@@carterholcomb1072 yeah but that kinda becomes debatable when said skirt is see through and they're wearing a thong in a public area that most likely has kids there. I think a non see through skirt would be much better y'know? And depending on his hotdogs size maybe slightly longer skirt
@@carterholcomb1072same I never really understood the obsession against nudity. I feel like nowadays only artists can see the human body without disgust or sexualising it
There is nothing wrong with that as long as they dont force that. I am a woman and i like feminine men. Nothing wrong..
I'm going to push back on this one Brett. As a fellow short king, I think it's cool that we can break down these social constructs. I'm by no means feminine but a smaller guy and maybe attractive and I think it's cool that women are coming forward and saying they might have a taste for that. That's really what it's all about at the end, people liking what they like and society not being judgemental about it
Fr she says "I want everyone to be happy and be themselves" and then right after push on the social constructs 💀 like bro let them be
This is an example of a video I disagree with Brett on. Usually she's better than Ben Shapiro who is completely authoritarian, at least, but she is definitely acting weird in this video for no reason.
Society is crumbling all around us because you want clown world 💩 like this to be acceptable.
When will you all learn?
Nah Brett's good it's these people giving off the I smoke rock vibes.
agreed, my partner is a normal height guy and he often complains about being not tall enough. What for lol, I thought we are making fun of girls who only date guys over 6ft
Roses are red
Brett's hair is well kept
This is a straight couple with extra steps
Figuring out which words are supposed to rhyme is harder than figuring out who the girl is in this relationship
@@jennhn Oh for sure, step is actually harder to rhyme with than one would think 😅
@@jennhnneither really but if you are trying to figure out their gender just listen to them
Cool couple. I’m glad they found each other and genuinely seem happy.
😂
I support that this couple just change roles without changing their sex.
It's up to them and if they feel Ok good for them.
I’m a Christian and I love this couple I think they are doing what’s natural and they happen to be outliers personality wise but they align perfectly ultimately and God can do a lot for them if they are in a heterosexual relationship. God bless them honestly I think they feel like they are living the best life they didn’t know was possible and they can have kids too. It’s better than being confused and trans or confused gay but not actually gay, just gay because there are no options they were aware of.
You’re the problem.
The biggest problem here is the tiktok attention addiction.
Are you actually christian?
I know I shouldn’t judge since its to be handled with God but really?
Good grief: It's a spirit, it's called spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6:12 anyone? In a few years they will have progressed to either just going full gay or something more kinky, why? Because that's how the enemy works. Please pray for them and study to show yourself approved. 2 Timothy 2:15
Even the basics of dressing as the opposite gender is in opposition to Christianity. And they seem to be living together premaritally. They are a straight couple who are focused on being different.
Calling these feminine men "wet cigarettes" made me laugh so hard. My God, I love her sense of humour. 😭😭😭😭
That cracked me up so hard 😂
oh thats what she meant. i thought she meant tall skinny white dudes.
@@ChatterBoxBran it usually includes tattoos and an obvious drug problem
So true 😂
You know what they call cigarettes in England?
I truly don’t understand the obsession with “tradition” things that were traditional hundreds of years ago are no longer traditional now that’s how’s the world works, i love when people aren’t within the status quo and i love when people feel safe to express themselves
right?! like why do some ppl keep on bringing up the caveman times…. times can like, actually change? funny that
Another problem is that those pretend "traditionalist" look up to a fake past they made up in their minds.
Things were neve the fairy tale they look up to, like, 80 years ago women who werent rich elite werent being super feminine and fragile, they were working manual labour in the farm, didnt have a say to the husband on wanting or not to have s3x or getting pregnant, having miscarriages and having children every year so there would be more people to work on the farm
Change but not making things look insane.
The thing I'll never understand is how they say that masculinity and femininity are subjective but still come back to portraying objective truths about masculinity and femininity.
What are Masculinity and Femininity?
Two individuals not harming anyone, enjoying their time together, and accepting their bodies. Not typical, but I see nothing wrong with this.
It might confuse their kids though.If they have kids in future or maybe they will grow out of it n realize u can just be normal.u can be feminine/masculine without having to wear the clothes.And u can be feminine/masculine n still be responsible dad n nurturing mom.
Oh boy
I really don’t like Brett’s take on this and being weirded out by it. These people are acting like themselves while also knowing that they can still be straight while defying gender stereotypes. I think gawking at them or calling it weird feeds into forcing people into boxes and says if you are slightly feminine you are gay. It’s actually like what trans activists do
Exactly what I have been thinking. Every time she talks about traditionally masculine men she always indirectly attacks men who are not traditional or more feminine. Also, she speaks ALOT about the declining testosterone rates and how lifting weight increases it. Firstly idk if she even understands the endocrine system. Levels decreasing are inevitable we live in an industrialized society. No one is lifting 1 ton of metal anymore. The Norm levels is fine actually, its only when ur levels are so low that it causes negative health outcomes and horrible symptoms. Also, Yeah exercising increases it TEMPORARILY for a little less then a day. Any form of Exercising in general helps with testosterone in men; however, weight lifting or resistance training is the one that causes the most elevation. She mentions it so much that she makes it seem like its a do or die. REGURDLESS Always stay physically fit and ensure your the best version of yourself period. - Pharmacy Student.
Agreed
Agreed
@@Absurdity101 agreed
THANK YOU same same ditto
I wouldn't say _weird_ - I'd say it's "unusual". And there's absolutely nothing wrong with unusual. Good for them, they know who they are and are comfortable showing it in public - that's more than a lot of us are capable of. As long as they're happy together I don't think anyone should be judging them. And they're not judging others or pushing others to conform to their own preferences or personality traits. They're just out here enjoying life and each other, and that's awesome to see!! We need positivity like this cos there's _far_ too much negativity being lumped on us at the moment.
I saw this ad transition coming. You thought you could trick me, but you didn't.
As a rural woman, i can't say that this woman looks masculine in any way. She looks completely like a typical strong, outdoorsy woman. Where do they get that she's masculine?
That's what I said. 🤷♂️
Agreed. She dresses pretty ordinary to my eyes. But I’m not the most feminine of women.
@@marycrawford9428 Well, i don't know you but think maybe you're saying you don't fit the media's model of feminine. Maybe that's not it-- sorry to presume. But as for myself, i feel that there's "feminine" as in just being a woman and naturally being you in a comfortable way; then there's "feminine" in terms of all the purchased junk that has gone with it for a long time, but much worse since mass media and advertising. So "feminine" in reality has nothing to do with painted fingernails and high heels and all those things drag queens like to take on, and i think the movement away from that "little metal women on the mud flaps" notion of femininity is natural and healthy. We just do what we do to be comfortable, happy, healthy people, and being sexy might be an aspect of it some or most of the time; but "feminine" or "sexy" doesn't necessarily mean sporting a bunch of purchased bling. At least for most of the down-to-earth country women i know.
Only speaking for myself, though. Just musing. Thanks for your response.
Lol yeah. She just looks like a regular athletic woman to me. 🤷🏽♀️😆 super gorgeous too
Same here
this is so refreshing. just be yourself, no need for labels and chopping off body parts…
I'll be honest. I am all for the leaner more "feminine" man as long as he doesn't dress feminine or wear makeup. I still like the masculine guy too. I am by all means someone who doesn't want the extremes. I am an equal opportunity lover 😂. Just be healthy or at least be trying when it comes to fitness. As for personality be a good honorable guy.
I completely agree with you! I’m more masculine than a lot of my girl friends and I’ve found a guy who’s a little more feminine than most guys. But we balance each other out well and still take on most of those traditional roles
My ex wear eyeliner and it's were kind of cute. Also he help me drew my
Completely agree with u
You need a cure if You like feminine men
I saw a video with some men that participate in drag races (they're not queens), some of them looked unhealthily skinny, your comment about health reminded me of that. For some reason drag races are considered okay even though pageants are considered shallow and outdated. Also there's something threatening to me about a man dressing in drag and that's coming from someone who is 5'8". But if they're playing a funny character I don't mind for some reason.
My thoughts are as follows:
I'm a straight guy, but not masculine. I don't believe in traditional gender roles because it locks people in places they hate. I personally would not wear female-looking clothes because my barrel of a torso would not allow it, but I'm open to trying anything to make me look better than I do. I think that people can do whatever as long as it doesn't cause long-term harm to themselves or others, because ultimately they are the ones living with their choices. The guy in this video is far more extreme than I am, whereas I'm more of a 50-50% blend, which is very hard for people to deal with. I look like a typical Industrial/EDM-culture guy, but have a few distinctly female traits that throw people off, such as emotional awareness and conversation skills.
In summary, good for them finding their partner, I think it's a good thing that alt-culture people can set aside their differences and try something new.
these people are doing the exact thing that I hope for people... just being a guy and a girl and living the way they are without feeling that they have to transition or whatever. I like it and they seem nice. you do you! oh and everybody online is doing everything for views... so unless you're not online, let's not judge :)
I'm glad they are making their relationship public. It might help many confused people to see they are straight in spite of having attributes of the other sex. It may save many people from getting body parts cut off. I think this is especially good to push back against those trying to push kids towards transgenderism.
@Elaina Mendez That's not how it works in what way and for whom?
I totally agree. This should be normalized, not unnecessary surgeries.
“Transgenderism” ok boomer wtf 😂. Can’t help but mention trans people in every breath lol. Find something new to whine about other than people wanting to be comfortable in their own skin.
@@torir.9515 this has literally nothing to do with trans people are u ok?
@@Draftspike is cus a lot of transpeople transitioning these days are in fact just gay. And many transwomen continue to love women, but don’t feel comfortable with their ‘roles’, wich makes them resent their image.
There’s studies that the insula (part of the brain responsible for self-awareness, body image, empathy) of gay men and transwomen is practically the same, and different from ciswomen and cismen (that are overall very different from one another)
Also Drew isn’t trans 😂😂😂
Those were both biological women
I think she was actually referring to Brittany Broski (who is obviously also a biological woman!!!)
@@pookeywan define 'obviously'...these days I don't think it's that easy 😂
there's something to be said about the lowkey roast of being mistaken for a trans woman tho
@@sparking023 how is that a roast.......?
@@lizzythielen2406 on average most trans women don't look like biological women since surgery for that is incredibly expensive. Basically it's being told that you look like a very cheap knock off of a woman
Consenting adults not interfering with anyone else. Totally tolerant of this, there are bigger issues in the world today to talk about, like genocide and child sex trafficking.
whatever, good for them. dress how you want, they ain’t hurting anybody. yeah it’s weird, but whatever makes them happy!
I actually appreciate the "gayest straight couple" maybe they've finally come to a point where they can take the sexuality away from the style. They seem like best friends which isn't bad.
"Are you gay"
"No but kinda yes"
also, this is wild to me, to compare thor and call loki skinny/not strong. HAVE YOU SEEN HIM??? like he’s mega ripped, he’s just not ginormous like thor is.
Are they afraid to say they are bisexual? They have both dated same gender and are now together. That's perfectly fine.
I lean gay, but I identify as bi. And im not afraid to say it. Though I used to be on the straight end of the spectrum, but experiences have made me learn towards men almost exclusively
But many people try dating the same gender just to try it
This is refreshing. There are a myriad of personalities, likes and desires. Women can be masculine and men feminine...we should be excited that our kids can see this and not question their body or their identity.
Every couple has their quirks. The trick is finding someone who meshes with yours. If these two are happy, I'm happy for them
Oh yeah, Brett, we'll definitely quote you on "Just be you" to a video that is literally talking about a couple expressing themselves how they feel. Really well said 😕
These People are very respectable to me. They accept biological reality and found a perfect mate to have kids with. Although they are both weird, i reckon they might still be good parents. These people know what is real and what is their personality and make the best of it.
For years I have been saying that this is what was missing. Historically more "delicate" men have been attracted to " rougher" women. In my opinion the world is just self correcting (finally)
This is great i love this , me and my wife have some roles which don't align to our gender like she plans how to make the house better , even paints and fixes things and driving , while I focus on finances, cooking and cleaning . I do most of the heavy lifting though :p . We both work to survive this economy. We help each other and its a great partnership ❤
ngl my relationship is kinda like this. i'm a female but i kinda "wear the pants" in the relationship. i intend to be the breadwinner and i'm definitely a dominant person. my boyfriend is really feminine and more submissive, and personally I'm very attracted to submissive men, i cannot explain why. i don't think theres anything wrong with a masculine woman dating a feminine man. they're happy, and not hurting anyone with what they're doing
As someone who had a crush on both thor and loki, loki’s appeal wasn’t being feminine, I don’t think he’s feminine at all actually, he’s charming and confident, he has rizz.
Please, just say charisma. I'm tired of this lingo.
I am genuinely happy for them and I wish them well! This is very wholesome
I’ve been thinking and saying for decades, if you’re a feminine man just look for a masculine woman if masculinity attracts you- and the same goes for masculine women to look for feminine men if they attracted to femininity. Everyone was born in their correct body with their correct sex, just look for that person of the opposite sex who was meant for you. You might have to look a bit longer and farther, but your “meant to be” opposite half has been born (or at least been conceived) out there somewhere in the world.
Some people are actually just gay though
Sorry honey but what you've been saying for decades is stupid. There is a difference between men and masculine women, as a gay male I'm not attracted to women at all romantically. If I were, then yes I'd be attracted to a masculine woman, but I'm not. Just because you say it doesn't make it true lmao 🤣... People who aren't gay just DON'T get it.
Hell nah I aint eating no bush yall r going to have to kill me
I’m a female blacksmith…
What I like or what I don’t like has nothing to do with my “sexuality” and everything to do with my personality which most of these people seem to lack. They chalk it up to sexuality instead, which is just weird.
Yeah. That is very weird how people just chalk things up to sexuality…
The girls saying that women are becoming the men that they want actually rings a bell. Like I want a man who is a provider in a protector and is going to follow through on what he says and is a go-getter despite all obstacles. And ironically I am that way whether it's taking care of myself or helping a friend or a family member in need
This is a really good point. My dad taught me all of the basics because he wanted me to be self reliant and supported me no matter what my interests were. Ir’s turned me into a well rounded, pragmatic, capable, therefore LOW MAINTENANCE, adult, with little need for playing games… because that is what I look for. Many guys take issue with me being intelligent, competitive, or whatever. It weeds out the insecure ones pretty quickly. I married a Marine. He wanted someone who was an asset, not a body to drag through life. I’m smarter, more detailed focused, better at efficiency, and a Jack of all trades. He is tougher, more visionary, more creative with solutions, better trained and stronger than me. Our skill sets complement each other and we look at ourselves like a team. Stronger as a whole.
I knew a couple like this at church when I was a kid. I was the flower girl in their wedding. He was super fem and everyone thought he was gay until they started dating. They were adorable 😊
We should encourage this all day everyday. This is what we want. A men dressing feminine and behaving feminine but not transitioning or pretending to be a woman. A straight he/him in a dress. But somehow this is also not good enough for some of yall. Just proves that no matter what, we are gonna continue being unhappy.
I totally agree with you. Some of them will still not be happy and try to create laws banning men wearing “Womens” clothing which is ridiculous. I thought we wanted small government?? This is why I no longer identify with the right or watch this type of content as much as I used to, we’ve become so authoritarian in the last few years it’s just too much. I don’t like any extremes or black & white thinking. I don’t know where I belong now but it’s def not left either.
I'm not seeing anyone calling out for prohibitions on this (maybe I have to scroll further). The point is, this is some weird optics and clearly amped for clout. They can dress however they want, it's their prerogative, but I can also point at that and say "nah, that ain't it, chief". The funniest and weirdest part of it is how they went "full circle" but in reverse
I think most of us are OK with this. The majority of the comments seem positive.
A man like this does not appeal to me in a romantic sense but he would be a cool friend.
Ofc im not going to be okay with this im not going to eat a bush just to make you feel better and wanting gay yes there gay to hook up with the opposite sex is wierder and yes the guy is definitely gay idk ab the woman. You guys have unreasonable asks. Crazy asf
As a very masculine adolescent whos over 6'0 and 200 lbs while still being lean, if a woman picked me up against a chain link fence like that, id fold so quickly the flash would be the second fastest man alive