The hiring process has broken me. I have actual skills and experience to offer employers, and the right attitude to go along with it. That being said, I feel drowned out in a crowd of people who are simply more malevolent and cunning with their words. The most important lesson I've learned over the past few years is that skills, experience, mindset, attitude... all of those qualities take a backseat to delusional confidence backed by nothing and straight up lying about nearly anything. If you want to win, you better be prepared to put on that mask and learn to love it.
That's the problem right; These guys are looking for what they consider 'perfect applications' rather than well suited candidates. They'll throw away a resume if it's not 100% perfect / doesn't have key words...some will even use AI to fucking filter through resumes rather than looking for HUMANS behind the resume. Who knows how many loyal, profit turning, innovative, creative, integrity-driven, results-focused employees have they passed up because they're not "playing the game" correctly?
@wetter4293 a lot of resumes are chatgpt generated nowadays too. You wouldn't believe how many companies are getting fake resumes. Literally some case over 95% of cold applications are fake. The tactic being get in the interview and for every offer they don't do any work and hire a contractor (super common practice in India and China). Basically recruiters aren't the only problem.
Correct. Jeffrey Epstein, terrible example as he is - only built his career because he lied about his resume, and once he was in - they wouldn’t fire him because he proved his skills.
>get a degree >Have student loans >Have experience >send out 1000 resumes >Optimize resumes for the AI >Go through 6 rounds of interviews with everyone but their uncle in the company >Get rejected because the company is just testing the water >Improve technical skills, lie on resume, improve talking skills >get revealed that you'd have a shitty wage that wouldn't even pay for a 1 bedroom apartment Tbh, the more i live in today's shitty economy as a 25yo, the more i wish to go into cyber scamming or fucking toting drugs. Job market is a complete joke
For real. I have been very frugal and financially disciplined since my early twenties. Now in my early thirties and I think I might just abandon the US. If I liquidate all holdings and investments I would have enough cash to live well in Thailand for the next 10 years and honestly idk why I wouldn't at this point.... I mean will the world even still be running in 10 years? I don't see this economy getting any better...
To get any job you have to: 1 - Lie on resume 2 - Put 5 years experience or more even though you have none 3 - Fit the resume to the role your appling to 4 - In interview try to persuade them to think you're perfect for job 5 - Say yes to every technical question
That's what I always say. Build something of value. Something real. Something you want to build and you will find out how to do it in a natural way. There are problems you need to solve. You solve the problems! That's what you're later doing in your job anyway. Learning things for the sake of learning is useless in my opinion. (it's also boring)
How do you define "of value"? Fastest way to checking all the boxes is to give back to the community we all steal from on a daily basis. Open source. Creating a project "of value" is more being an entrepreneur than a better engineer. If you optimize for time and speed i would ditch that and just do open source. You get the "of value" inherently and the clout of being on big projects.
@@Scott_Stern I mean something useful for you or someone else. Not necessarily of monetary value. For example I downloaded lists of youtube videos with JDownloader but then I had to manage those hundreds of videos. Instead of doing this manually I programmed a C# WPF-Tool that did exactly what I wanted. I programmed something useful (for me). No one needed to tell me what to do. When problems arose I just solved them (like you do in a real programming job). When there were bugs I debugged them. When I had ideas for new features, that would make things more convenient for me, I just implemented them. And of course I had to design a UI. It wasn't a big project but just something I wanted to do. Doing programming exercises for the sake of doing an exercise is just boring to me. And I got a programming job eventually.
It's a finesse game involving chance and tactical set ups at the end of the day. Just for a headcount out of curiosity, how many people here are still looking for a job.
I still am I just need an entry level tech job preferably in MERN stack or some other friendly technology I can learn on the job. Pay doesn't even have to be worthwhile or present, as long as I am able to gain experience and put something on my resume
Couple thousand applications, few call backs, few rejections, age 37 trying to create a new career myself. The pressure and struggle hasnt stopped. Two unrelated majors, one in Agriculture and plant pathology and the other in Information Technology/ Cyber security. Currently studying for security+ in hopes ill get more opportunities. Please send help.
so he wants you to make a real world project solving/addressing a real problem...WHY THE FUCk would i need to apply to a company then, i can just my own software business from that.
Welcome to modern software stuff where companies want you to know everything because god forbid they "waste" resources on employee training, and then complain when their current employee's get lazy or leave.
@@KrigRaseri software industry has become very predatorial because they know engineers love their craft and would settle for anything because of that. THey're strictly taking advantage.
@@eg4933 Millions more people are attempting to do the same thing every year. Not saying it's impossible, but most need to work in the industry, at least for a period, rather than devoting years of time towards a project while unemployed (not everyone has parents who pay for everything).
The hiring business is broken. If you have to send 1000 applications to get a job, something goes completely wrong. Imagine the time you have to invest for that process! If you still have a normal job and want to change and have to invest that amount of time, it is almost not possible…. Luckily it’s not everywhere like that. At least in my part of Europe 😀
@@Ezekiel-dude definitely not. Cannot imagine when either me or one of my many buddies in tech business did apply for such an amount. But hey, if you made this experience in Europe, than it is what it is. However, does not change my statement, that the hiring business is completely broken….if one has to send 100+ applications for a job…
@@rpf23543 I lived in Germany for 7 years. I gave out like ~90 job applications before being contacted for a total of 4 interviews and 2 job offers in Eu, they have a lot of boxes to tick. It's actyally worse than US. I remember all the dumb girls I knew from University (I did bachelors in De) got their first job less than 3 or 4 months after graduation meanwhile, me and my dude who used to solve THEIR problems ( for a fee ofcourse!) we didn't get a job offer in the first year My job finding visa was about to expire when I got hired! I spoke with my former coworkers and colleagues and they have almost the same experience and if you're self-taught. just forget about it! good luck convincing some rigid headed angry hr ladies that you're qualified it might also happen in US, that they hire you for your profiling. But man, it's bloody worse than hell in Europe
Its really simple. Just find something you're actually interested in and go hard. Its a surefire way to seperate yourself from the barely passing grads with no interest in the field besides the high salaries.
2:48 getting a referral puts you in a different applicant bucket ONLY at some companies. There are companies were referrals don't have any effect on application process.
Actually most of them won't give you any special privileges apart from the referring guy getting a bonus if you're a successful hire and stay for X time.
I know many of you that are young are looking at this as a sign of desperation. And many older people are too, the 1000 resumes and crazy hoops only to not get hired happens to guys like me too with 10 years experience and in a principal level role. The only solution right now is to strike out on your own. Build a business, build products, consult, whatever you have to do. Spend more time building stuff and less applying for jobs. I don’t see any other way to get out of this mess other than to sidestep the process. If you still want a job anyway, don’t apply for anything until a hiring manager asks you to submit a resume as a technicality. Read that sentence very carefully and understand what it implies.
The one part that bugged me most is sending message to people on LinkedIn. I think the key is not just spamming strangers with cold messages. The key is finding a common point. Imo it might be a hobby you see at his profile (i.e. oh I played ice hockey too at college), or being graduated from same college, or having experience at the same company. Sending messages in this situation makes sense.
I've watched 3 of your videos and haven't noticed you selling anything. For some reason you're the only one of all the tech youtubers who encouraged me to start learning right now. Maybe I didn't trust them because they were selling some courses or whatever and it makes me thing that they don't actually make money through coding so why would I listen to them. Thank you. Please stay this way.
go watch dorian hes more realistic about the state of the jobmarket there are developers with 10 years of experience even 20 who cant find a job in the comments
do not do paid bootcamps anymore ... in the age of chatGPT if you cannot self-learn + build with its help you won't have the persistence / skills to outcompete this terrible job market + AI replacement rates ...
I already know that I wasted the last 3.5 years of my life getting a software development degree. I refuse to give up my private life for a tiny chance of a career that also requires a crazy amount of your time. Software development is such a joke and I wish so much that I'd have seen that back then. It absolutely doesn't matter that I'm simply capable of programming. The fact that I don't live and breath programming in every waking moment of my life disqualifies me from ever starting a career in the field.
you dont need to live and breathe it every minute with 3.5 yrs of education and experience. Where are you getting stuck? 1. cant get an interview 2. Failing the phone technical 3. Cant pass the onsite to offer?
@@Chaosbetting Do you know anything about freelance work? I really want to get into that but I have no idea where to start. I've googled it and it seems like I can only find people selling courses on "how to get rich doing freelance". I just don't want to starve while I'm studying software develpment, because it's been 2 and a half years and I'm really considering giving up. I'd love to hear some tips. Thanks in advance.
I graduated with a computer science degree, I've applied for about 20 jobs and I accepted the first offer that I got because they agreed to increase salary during negotiation.... that was 6 years ago though.
I also took the first job I could. It was a graphical programming job and it was TERRIBLE. I didn't last 6 months. That experience scarred Mr a bit and I'm already dealing with mental health issues so now I'm looking again after a long hiatus. Fun.
"Unless you have an ivy league school or a top tech company on your resume, it's probably getting trashed." Ouch. But that would not surprise me at Uber because that is a top company..
IMO it feels like the tech industry is now oversaturated with new graduates. Other older industries that boomed and busted had a similar pattern. It's always the new incoming grads (studying for a job in that industry), that first feel the decline. In the form of difficulty finding a first job. Because opportunities begin to dry up, and the easiest thing for companies to do when cutting costs is stop hiring new engineers or not backfill departing employees. Tech might not be the same gold mine you've been led to believe when you went to school. Just like law firms (which have been steadily on the decline), the old-timers/partners keep making the good bucks. But the rot starts affecting lower tier employees and it becomes harder and harder to find jobs. Don't be fooled by senior engineers talking about how great things still are. They are the last to be impacted by industry decline, so they won't know whats going on when it's already wayyyyy too late for you. On top of that you got the AI threat, which is like 1-2 years away from eating up all junior dev jobs anyways. Time to look into working in construction/landscaping IMO.
I've never understood why people who studied IT infrastructure (network, systems, database) engineering had to first "cut their teeth" on the helpdesk, despite not wanting to work there. Help desk is kind of the entry level where you'd prove yourself, and after that you would apply the job you actually studied for (e.g. network engineering). But software developers skip this and go straight into a dev role upon graduation 🤔
He might have mentioned working your network. If there are meetups for your favorite programming language or whatever (those can even happen by zoom these days), that's a chance to know-a-guy-who-knows-a-guy, and get a shot. Your old professor or teacher might know somebody too.
I think I needed to see this. I really like coding and I try my best to learn but sometimes it feels like I can never do enough. I see all these people spending 12 hours a day doing nonstop practice and writing a hundred detailed applications in a day, possibly on top of working a temp job.
$20,000???? Gah dayum!! Nah bruh, just self-study and work your way in through whatever company you are currently working at. Prove that you can do the job by having some references to some of the projects that you have done.
I believe him. No one wants to take the time to help a college grad build up and learn from within. That’s why people generally start their own businesses or freelance because the tech market is so divisive.
I probably will stay unemployed and nobody wants me if i followed these tactics anyway. data shows 100% rejection and im too late so better change career initial path than pounding to non existent chance for me
After 3,000 resumes sent and a year and a half of applying I was wondering if software quality assurance was even a real job! I’m so burned out with trying to get into tech….
can you please redirect me to some good and working resume parsing software, open source and self hosted if possible, because i am broke as hell and i need to finish a project asap (uber or something.....)
@@YarinsHyper It maybe a stereo issue. If you listen in mono it works fine. He may have paned the audio to the left or right channel. Can you only hear out of one ear?
These are nice tips, but I hate when they clickbait me using "NEVER" or "ALWAYS" in a video title. Maybe fix the title with "You* Will NEVER Get a Tech Job ALONE* With Your Resume".
Hey bud, just giving you a heads up to change your Video Title. Change the typo in your Title from “Your WILL NEVER Get A Tech Job With Your Resume” to the following: “You WILL NEVER Get A Tech Job With Your Resume”. Appreciate your content and have a good day.
If you can't get interviews after being in FAANG there are some real red flags with you. I can start with the fact that you clearly have no network as just having a few dev friends alone will net you a few interviews.
@@EmptyJarDoto Before you start judging me, I was about to secure a ML Engineering role at Apple. Then before the final round, they completely went dark. Turns out they froze hiring.
@@jshowao-rw1dh Its not too crazy. Its the junior devs (like myself) that require a 6-figure salary + 6 figure stocks and other unnecessary non-sense. We end up leaving after a few years which costs the company talent and so much more! These companies are suffering from these wounds.
@@EmptyJarDoto My resume has only improved since the last time I worked at FAANG, idiot. The ONLY variable that has changed is that I stopped receiving interest. A year ago I would get so many DMs on LinkedIn and emails. Now, I get NOTHING! So where did I change? Where did I go wrong? And if you are going to say, "But its your resume, or something else you are doing", just remember that I should be, on PRINCIPLE, more valuable due to my years of experience now than I was when I got hired into FAANG (right after college). The only thing that has happened is that the companies have stopped hiring. If you can't wrap your mind around that, go back to you freshman level discrete logic courses and understand how this VERY basic train of thought functions.
Just send connection requests and grow your network with people in your field of study. Talk about what you study and try to learn what you can from other people. From - graduate student with 5 tech certs and I've been in the industry about a year.
I'm starting to change from professional chef to software developer and will start my bootcamp next year I Ave been told by the bootcamp they will help me find a job after I finish it so I hope everything will be ok and run smooth in the transition
Please don't. Just keep progressing as a cook, maybe open your own restaurant and live your life. Software development industry has no money and no life right now.
the market is completely oversaturated. The only one who makes money with bootcamps is the one who sells the bootcamp. The good times of software development are over.
Sorry but you're highly delusional if you think they will get you a job. The dev market is terribly saturated, and it's highly unlikely that'll change anytime soon.
Honestly if you don't love programming it probably isn't worth it. I think it's hard to hear but it applies to a lot of things. Could you put in the grind to become a Chemist? A Lawyer? This idea that becoming a software engineer in 6 months was sold to people and it just isn't true anymore. it's really hard to become a developer and for good reason. It's hard to be a good developer and it takes a load of time and effort just like anything worth doing in life.
It's a fallacy that working on personal projects are equal to professional experience. It's probably more like a 5-1. Like 50 hours of work on a personal project might be as valuable as 10 hours on a professional project with a team of engineers to learn from
Meh. Doesn't apply to everything. Bug bounties or finding insane zero day exploits in mainstream applications (Chrome, firefox, or Outlook) or the big kahuna which is firmware or CPU vulnerabilities is tantamount to respect and "Experience". Most cybersecurity researchers work alone or in small groups of 6 - 12. The world of developers is such a strange world of gatekeeping and fraud.
Here's an idea, don't try apply to 100 jobs. You have to tailor your CV to the business. Many grads have no idea what many companies actually do. They also have no idea about product development. You're not just trying to sell your skills, you need to show how you would use those skills to make the company money. Can you solve the company's problems, or are you just there to collect the salary and offer no direction?
What a total piece of garbage this advice is. And the problem is that I see this a lot, so apparently someone is spreading this crap. Can you imagine people who want to hire junior software developer, or any kind of software developer, sit there and ask "How can YOU, candidate, help US make more money?". If you think this is how real life works, you are completely delusional. What happens in real life: dev team has projects and tasks to do, if the current resources are not sufficient, team leader talks to business about the need of increasing dev team. Business provides financing, then dev team creates requirements for candidate. Requirements are handled to human resources, which hand them to in-house or (usually) 3rd party recruiters. Neither of these people care about MONEY which junior or senior or whatever you name it developer can bring to company. Recruiters care to cover position, dev team cares that new hire is decent both socially and technically and can perform tasks and collaborate. Software developer is not a door to door salesman, who needs to convince someone to buy their product.
Don’t listen to this blackpilling nonsense. I literally only had a certificate no college degree and I get my tech job and this was 25 years ag - oh wait no it was 6 months ago get with it people
I am not a software developer, however I am in a technical position that sometimes involves me hiring a junior engineer. I personally would not give a shit if junior has pet project, I won't be using their code anyway, and because they are juniors, they dont understand how things really work in real life. I am not hiring junior to cover middle position. What I am looking for during interview is: 1) Fundamental skills and knowledge. I am not teaching basics to junior. I expect candidate to have fundamental knowledge. If you don't know, you are not junior, you are just some bloke from the street who heard that IT has high salary. 2) Communicational skills. Dude, if you are stuttering and can't answer question without mumbling or you just being weird, I simply don't want to work with a person like that, especially if I am going to be mentoring them. Speak normally and in concise manner. 3) Willingness to learn. Junior position implies a person who will be doing basic tasks, following instructions and learning lots of new information. Personally I am asking candidates about their ambitions, what they want to achieve, what they want to learn and how they are learning now. What courses they are watching, what books they are reading, etc. I dont need junior that is not willing to learn, the whole point of hiring a junior is hiring a person who has fundamental skills and knowledge and can learn on the fly so the team can oflload more simple work from middle and senior members.
The real issue with people trying to get a job is that they are unhireable to begin with. They can barely get a job at mcdonalds let alone hold onto that job for extended periods of time. Its a red flag when you have zero work history and a college degree. It is a liability to hire a dude that has been able to have minimal social social skills for their entire lives and expect them to collaborate as a team when they get to your company. I see this when I try to hire freelancers a lot since they move into freelancing next and their terrible social and communication skills makes me quickly move on to other people.
I've never understood why people who studied IT infrastructure (network, systems, database) engineering had to first "cut their teeth" on the helpdesk, despite not wanting to work there. Help desk is kind of the entry level where you'd prove yourself, after that you would apply for the job you actually studied for (e.g. network engineering). But software developers skip this step and go straight into a dev role upon graduation 🤔
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The hiring process has broken me. I have actual skills and experience to offer employers, and the right attitude to go along with it. That being said, I feel drowned out in a crowd of people who are simply more malevolent and cunning with their words. The most important lesson I've learned over the past few years is that skills, experience, mindset, attitude... all of those qualities take a backseat to delusional confidence backed by nothing and straight up lying about nearly anything. If you want to win, you better be prepared to put on that mask and learn to love it.
That's the problem right; These guys are looking for what they consider 'perfect applications' rather than well suited candidates. They'll throw away a resume if it's not 100% perfect / doesn't have key words...some will even use AI to fucking filter through resumes rather than looking for HUMANS behind the resume. Who knows how many loyal, profit turning, innovative, creative, integrity-driven, results-focused employees have they passed up because they're not "playing the game" correctly?
@wetter4293 a lot of resumes are chatgpt generated nowadays too. You wouldn't believe how many companies are getting fake resumes. Literally some case over 95% of cold applications are fake. The tactic being get in the interview and for every offer they don't do any work and hire a contractor (super common practice in India and China). Basically recruiters aren't the only problem.
Correct. Jeffrey Epstein, terrible example as he is - only built his career because he lied about his resume, and once he was in - they wouldn’t fire him because he proved his skills.
You are wrong. Dead wrong. Looking at the world through this lens isn’t helping.
@@HikarusVibrator So then how should we look at the world? Through your lens? You haven't even stated your perspective
>get a degree
>Have student loans
>Have experience
>send out 1000 resumes
>Optimize resumes for the AI
>Go through 6 rounds of interviews with everyone but their uncle in the company
>Get rejected because the company is just testing the water
>Improve technical skills, lie on resume, improve talking skills
>get revealed that you'd have a shitty wage that wouldn't even pay for a 1 bedroom apartment
Tbh, the more i live in today's shitty economy as a 25yo, the more i wish to go into cyber scamming or fucking toting drugs.
Job market is a complete joke
For real. I have been very frugal and financially disciplined since my early twenties. Now in my early thirties and I think I might just abandon the US. If I liquidate all holdings and investments I would have enough cash to live well in Thailand for the next 10 years and honestly idk why I wouldn't at this point.... I mean will the world even still be running in 10 years? I don't see this economy getting any better...
A computer geek will tote drugs.....
U will make a good girlfriend in jail
If you think job market is bad now you wouldn't have survived 2008
@@harambe2552 I did, this is much worse.
Yeah only thing about those people is they usually never target the big people only elderly or disabled people in terms of cyber crime*
To get any job you have to:
1 - Lie on resume
2 - Put 5 years experience or more even though you have none
3 - Fit the resume to the role your appling to
4 - In interview try to persuade them to think you're perfect for job
5 - Say yes to every technical question
I am taking your advice.
@@DesignerDeveloper update us when you land a job!
@@GoogleUser-mk1vw I already have one but you never know when such brilliant advice will be needed.
"Would you run a DROP database in the Live environment if you had super admin access?" "Yes".
whats the point of putting 5 fake years of experience if its to get busted at the interview ?
This is a ridiculous amount of work just to get a job. The amount of time spent and effort is not worth the pay.
It is worth it
That's what I always say.
Build something of value. Something real. Something you want to build and you will find out how to do it in a natural way.
There are problems you need to solve. You solve the problems! That's what you're later doing in your job anyway.
Learning things for the sake of learning is useless in my opinion. (it's also boring)
Yeah my thoughts too. If you’re at the point where you’re building a commercial product then you probably arent looking for a job anywahs
If you are at a point where you can build something for production, you are at a different point then being able to code stuff for yourself.
How do you define "of value"?
Fastest way to checking all the boxes is to give back to the community we all steal from on a daily basis. Open source.
Creating a project "of value" is more being an entrepreneur than a better engineer. If you optimize for time and speed i would ditch that and just do open source. You get the "of value" inherently and the clout of being on big projects.
@@Scott_Stern I mean something useful for you or someone else. Not necessarily of monetary value. For example I downloaded lists of youtube videos with JDownloader but then I had to manage those hundreds of videos.
Instead of doing this manually I programmed a C# WPF-Tool that did exactly what I wanted. I programmed something useful (for me). No one needed to tell me what to do. When problems arose I just solved them (like you do in a real programming job). When there were bugs I debugged them. When I had ideas for new features, that would make things more convenient for me, I just implemented them. And of course I had to design a UI.
It wasn't a big project but just something I wanted to do. Doing programming exercises for the sake of doing an exercise is just boring to me.
And I got a programming job eventually.
Thats the hardest part tho
It's a finesse game involving chance and tactical set ups at the end of the day. Just for a headcount out of curiosity, how many people here are still looking for a job.
I still am
I just need an entry level tech job preferably in MERN stack or some other friendly technology I can learn on the job.
Pay doesn't even have to be worthwhile or present, as long as I am able to gain experience and put something on my resume
I'm going to lie and create fake bullshit until I get one. I need to actually learn stuff first though.
Me. I have a ton of certs, a bachelors in IT, and a bit of work experience. Still… nothing
Couple thousand applications, few call backs, few rejections, age 37 trying to create a new career myself. The pressure and struggle hasnt stopped. Two unrelated majors, one in Agriculture and plant pathology and the other in Information Technology/ Cyber security. Currently studying for security+ in hopes ill get more opportunities. Please send help.
Here
lesson learned "don't apply"
Some recruiters are absolute pure gold. Most won’t help at all, but I found just that one good recruiter who finally got me my first junior dev job.
so he wants you to make a real world project solving/addressing a real problem...WHY THE FUCk would i need to apply to a company then, i can just my own software business from that.
Welcome to modern software stuff where companies want you to know everything because god forbid they "waste" resources on employee training, and then complain when their current employee's get lazy or leave.
@@KrigRaseri software industry has become very predatorial because they know engineers love their craft and would settle for anything because of that. THey're strictly taking advantage.
Because you have no capital and everyone's using the same 10 services anyways
@@nousquest if i solved my own real world problem, I CAN GET FUNDING anyday.
@@eg4933 Millions more people are attempting to do the same thing every year. Not saying it's impossible, but most need to work in the industry, at least for a period, rather than devoting years of time towards a project while unemployed (not everyone has parents who pay for everything).
I am working on starting my own tech business I am sick of dealing with the job market. This video is solid though.
that's great
@@TechnoSan09 let me know if you need a cross-platform mobile app developer, wish you success in your endeavours.
Thank you for keeping this video brief and not clickbaiting.
The hiring business is broken. If you have to send 1000 applications to get a job, something goes completely wrong. Imagine the time you have to invest for that process! If you still have a normal job and want to change and have to invest that amount of time, it is almost not possible….
Luckily it’s not everywhere like that. At least in my part of Europe 😀
1000 applications to get an interview jajaja
figures! it's exactly the same in europe, don't fool yourself
@@Ezekiel-dude definitely not. Cannot imagine when either me or one of my many buddies in tech business did apply for such an amount. But hey, if you made this experience in Europe, than it is what it is. However, does not change my statement, that the hiring business is completely broken….if one has to send 100+ applications for a job…
@@rpf23543 I lived in Germany for 7 years. I gave out like ~90 job applications before being contacted for a total of 4 interviews and 2 job offers
in Eu, they have a lot of boxes to tick. It's actyally worse than US. I remember all the dumb girls I knew from University (I did bachelors in De) got their first job less than 3 or 4 months after graduation
meanwhile, me and my dude who used to solve THEIR problems ( for a fee ofcourse!) we didn't get a job offer in the first year
My job finding visa was about to expire when I got hired!
I spoke with my former coworkers and colleagues and they have almost the same experience
and if you're self-taught. just forget about it! good luck convincing some rigid headed angry hr ladies that you're qualified
it might also happen in US, that they hire you for your profiling. But man, it's bloody worse than hell in Europe
@@Ezekiel-dudehey man, I'm currently studying in Germany. Could u give me your email?
Real honest and somewhat brutal advice, but much appreciated. Great video thank you!
Its really simple. Just find something you're actually interested in and go hard. Its a surefire way to seperate yourself from the barely passing grads with no interest in the field besides the high salaries.
I don't get it, if people doesn't even look at our resume what should we do?
They can't see what we capable of, there is no way left showing them.
This is the kind of truth and content we need right now
Solid advice!
Thank you, best advices from you :)
this is much appreciated ❤ thank you for what you do
Great video. Thanks❤
2:48 getting a referral puts you in a different applicant bucket ONLY at some companies. There are companies were referrals don't have any effect on application process.
Actually most of them won't give you any special privileges apart from the referring guy getting a bonus if you're a successful hire and stay for X time.
I know many of you that are young are looking at this as a sign of desperation. And many older people are too, the 1000 resumes and crazy hoops only to not get hired happens to guys like me too with 10 years experience and in a principal level role.
The only solution right now is to strike out on your own. Build a business, build products, consult, whatever you have to do. Spend more time building stuff and less applying for jobs. I don’t see any other way to get out of this mess other than to sidestep the process.
If you still want a job anyway, don’t apply for anything until a hiring manager asks you to submit a resume as a technicality. Read that sentence very carefully and understand what it implies.
The one part that bugged me most is sending message to people on LinkedIn.
I think the key is not just spamming strangers with cold messages. The key is finding a common point. Imo it might be a hobby you see at his profile (i.e. oh I played ice hockey too at college), or being graduated from same college, or having experience at the same company. Sending messages in this situation makes sense.
Yup, you can easily get banned from doing that. Linkedin has a tough (and really unfair) algorithm that will ban you for pretty much anything.
I've watched 3 of your videos and haven't noticed you selling anything. For some reason you're the only one of all the tech youtubers who encouraged me to start learning right now. Maybe I didn't trust them because they were selling some courses or whatever and it makes me thing that they don't actually make money through coding so why would I listen to them. Thank you. Please stay this way.
He sells courses
go watch dorian hes more realistic about the state of the jobmarket there are developers with 10 years of experience even 20 who cant find a job in the comments
Word of advice. Go into IT, not programming. Way more jobs open, way better pay, and way easier day to day work.
What about the revenue he gets from ads?
Cyber security, IT or Cloud and you’re SET.
do not do paid bootcamps anymore ... in the age of chatGPT if you cannot self-learn + build with its help you won't have the persistence / skills to outcompete this terrible job market + AI replacement rates ...
Hello, thanks for valuable tips! From curiosity, what monitor do you use :)?
I already know that I wasted the last 3.5 years of my life getting a software development degree. I refuse to give up my private life for a tiny chance of a career that also requires a crazy amount of your time. Software development is such a joke and I wish so much that I'd have seen that back then. It absolutely doesn't matter that I'm simply capable of programming. The fact that I don't live and breath programming in every waking moment of my life disqualifies me from ever starting a career in the field.
you dont need to live and breathe it every minute with 3.5 yrs of education and experience.
Where are you getting stuck?
1. cant get an interview
2. Failing the phone technical
3. Cant pass the onsite to offer?
Can you do free lance work?
@@Chaosbettingwhat’s your goal? To make money or get a better job? What’s your current situation?
@@Chaosbetting Do you know anything about freelance work? I really want to get into that but I have no idea where to start. I've googled it and it seems like I can only find people selling courses on "how to get rich doing freelance". I just don't want to starve while I'm studying software develpment, because it's been 2 and a half years and I'm really considering giving up.
I'd love to hear some tips. Thanks in advance.
I graduated with a computer science degree, I've applied for about 20 jobs and I accepted the first offer that I got because they agreed to increase salary during negotiation.... that was 6 years ago though.
lol yeah the software job market is terrible rn compared to 6 years ago
I also took the first job I could. It was a graphical programming job and it was TERRIBLE. I didn't last 6 months. That experience scarred Mr a bit and I'm already dealing with mental health issues so now I'm looking again after a long hiatus. Fun.
"Unless you have an ivy league school or a top tech company on your resume, it's probably getting trashed." Ouch. But that would not surprise me at Uber because that is a top company..
When he hits you with the ROI, man you get convinced
you got the voice over audio only in the left channel btw.
20k$????? Ive literally bought a course for 25$ and got a job within 2 years lol. Didn't even study that much
IMO it feels like the tech industry is now oversaturated with new graduates. Other older industries that boomed and busted had a similar pattern. It's always the new incoming grads (studying for a job in that industry), that first feel the decline. In the form of difficulty finding a first job. Because opportunities begin to dry up, and the easiest thing for companies to do when cutting costs is stop hiring new engineers or not backfill departing employees.
Tech might not be the same gold mine you've been led to believe when you went to school. Just like law firms (which have been steadily on the decline), the old-timers/partners keep making the good bucks. But the rot starts affecting lower tier employees and it becomes harder and harder to find jobs. Don't be fooled by senior engineers talking about how great things still are. They are the last to be impacted by industry decline, so they won't know whats going on when it's already wayyyyy too late for you.
On top of that you got the AI threat, which is like 1-2 years away from eating up all junior dev jobs anyways. Time to look into working in construction/landscaping IMO.
Honest question: is it the same way for trade jobs like carpentry?
I've never understood why people who studied IT infrastructure (network, systems, database) engineering had to first "cut their teeth" on the helpdesk, despite not wanting to work there. Help desk is kind of the entry level where you'd prove yourself, and after that you would apply the job you actually studied for (e.g. network engineering). But software developers skip this and go straight into a dev role upon graduation 🤔
Can you advise on the type of roles that would be suitable for a computer science grad who wants to prove themselves?
He might have mentioned working your network. If there are meetups for your favorite programming language or whatever (those can even happen by zoom these days), that's a chance to know-a-guy-who-knows-a-guy, and get a shot. Your old professor or teacher might know somebody too.
What bootcamp do you recommend?
Can I include my 2 years of Myspace profile HTML experience back in the 2000's?
There's a typo in your title
As of now it's hard .but situation will change soon .
why voice in left speaker only...
My poor boy "Will" will someday get a tech job
Man seeing 4chan wojacks being used mainstream is a trip
The caveat to all of these tips is that you're competent. Keep training, keep learning, keep practicing etc etc
I think I needed to see this. I really like coding and I try my best to learn but sometimes it feels like I can never do enough. I see all these people spending 12 hours a day doing nonstop practice and writing a hundred detailed applications in a day, possibly on top of working a temp job.
Write program that sends job applications for you and watch netflix until you get a job. 🧠
$20,000???? Gah dayum!! Nah bruh, just self-study and work your way in through whatever company you are currently working at. Prove that you can do the job by having some references to some of the projects that you have done.
in my experience, recruiters loose interest when you do not precede further in a hiring process.
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I actually did the I.T course from course careers and signed a remote job offer so yeah I can confirm course careers is legit.
I believe him. No one wants to take the time to help a college grad build up and learn from within. That’s why people generally start their own businesses or freelance because the tech market is so divisive.
Tried and true, no lies detected
There are plenty of ways to show your work here is one get a domain, build a site showcase your projects on it and reference it on your res
Wouldn't it be cool if I went to school and got into debt for a skill that could actually get me hired without bending over backwards?
I probably will stay unemployed and nobody wants me if i followed these tactics anyway. data shows 100% rejection and im too late so better change career initial path than pounding to non existent chance for me
something I recommend watching
After 3,000 resumes sent and a year and a half of applying I was wondering if software quality assurance was even a real job! I’m so burned out with trying to get into tech….
SQA is really tight now. Everyone and their mother apply to those positions when they get laid off or burnt out in other roles.
@@genericyoutubeuser8957that’s exactly what I was thinking! So over saturated especially if developers are applying as well as QA people
i am crying not able to get oa
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Contribute to open source projects.
nah
if im spending a year on a project no way in hell im working for another company.
If you can somehow build a project in a year that you can live off of (easier said than done), you never needed a job in the first place.
Submitted 1000+ applications within 14mo. and got 3 interviews. Now I'm going to try this.
Poor Will
can you please redirect me to some good and working resume parsing software, open source and self hosted if possible, because i am broke as hell and i need to finish a project asap (uber or something.....)
fix your audio, PLEASE. I thought my headset broke -_-
Audio worked fine for me.
@@Ramel34 I can only hear in my left earpad. Every other video works fine.
@@georgeburduli7343 Just on this video? Hmm, sounds like a stereo/mono issue.
@@Ramel34 his mic was placed badly or something but for sure its the video's issue and not ours. other ones work just fine .
@@YarinsHyper It maybe a stereo issue. If you listen in mono it works fine. He may have paned the audio to the left or right channel. Can you only hear out of one ear?
These are nice tips, but I hate when they clickbait me using "NEVER" or "ALWAYS" in a video title. Maybe fix the title with "You* Will NEVER Get a Tech Job ALONE* With Your Resume".
Hey bud, just giving you a heads up to change your Video Title. Change the typo in your Title from “Your WILL NEVER Get A Tech Job With Your Resume” to the following: “You WILL NEVER Get A Tech Job With Your Resume”. Appreciate your content and have a good day.
literal brain rot tech bro advice
You just explained how getting a job works lol
I got a tech job with my resume!
how recently?
💯
You*
My will what?
minor spelling mistake
mean while big tech wants to increase the number of H1B visas, 😂 I guess they can't replace us fast enough.🤣🤣
Has anyone tried the Frontend Developer course on CourseCareers yet and if so, how is it so far?
if you can code a production ready app, WHY would you work for someone else? i've never heard something so stupid.
Jobs in trades is where its at. If 1000 resumes, you are no value. If you were people would be jumping to hire you.
I have an IVY League AND FAANG. Still getting rejected. No interviews.
If you can't get interviews after being in FAANG there are some real red flags with you. I can start with the fact that you clearly have no network as just having a few dev friends alone will net you a few interviews.
@@EmptyJarDoto Before you start judging me, I was about to secure a ML Engineering role at Apple. Then before the final round, they completely went dark. Turns out they froze hiring.
Now you may resume following your metal programming and worshipping these companies! Hate me all you like!
@@jshowao-rw1dh Its not too crazy. Its the junior devs (like myself) that require a 6-figure salary + 6 figure stocks and other unnecessary non-sense. We end up leaving after a few years which costs the company talent and so much more! These companies are suffering from these wounds.
@@EmptyJarDoto My resume has only improved since the last time I worked at FAANG, idiot. The ONLY variable that has changed is that I stopped receiving interest. A year ago I would get so many DMs on LinkedIn and emails. Now, I get NOTHING! So where did I change? Where did I go wrong?
And if you are going to say, "But its your resume, or something else you are doing", just remember that I should be, on PRINCIPLE, more valuable due to my years of experience now than I was when I got hired into FAANG (right after college).
The only thing that has happened is that the companies have stopped hiring. If you can't wrap your mind around that, go back to you freshman level discrete logic courses and understand how this VERY basic train of thought functions.
the scary part is even these tips might not be enough
Not to be autistic but how do I build rapport while also sounding professional on linkedin
Just send connection requests and grow your network with people in your field of study. Talk about what you study and try to learn what you can from other people.
From - graduate student with 5 tech certs and I've been in the industry about a year.
I'm starting to change from professional chef to software developer and will start my bootcamp next year I Ave been told by the bootcamp they will help me find a job after I finish it so I hope everything will be ok and run smooth in the transition
Please don't. Just keep progressing as a cook, maybe open your own restaurant and live your life.
Software development industry has no money and no life right now.
the market is completely oversaturated. The only one who makes money with bootcamps is the one who sells the bootcamp. The good times of software development are over.
Sorry but you're highly delusional if you think they will get you a job. The dev market is terribly saturated, and it's highly unlikely that'll change anytime soon.
Honestly if you don't love programming it probably isn't worth it. I think it's hard to hear but it applies to a lot of things. Could you put in the grind to become a Chemist? A Lawyer? This idea that becoming a software engineer in 6 months was sold to people and it just isn't true anymore. it's really hard to become a developer and for good reason. It's hard to be a good developer and it takes a load of time and effort just like anything worth doing in life.
You missed the train buddy. Keep learning and spending money on boot camps but just dont quit your job or you will find in nightmare really fast!
The trick is to hack their website and replace it with ur resume
wake up call tough love-american
The title is just PURE ignorance
Everyday “ohh no do this. Wait no do that. Ohhh that’s old do this.” Pathetic.
But should you stop trying....no
It's a fallacy that working on personal projects are equal to professional experience. It's probably more like a 5-1. Like 50 hours of work on a personal project might be as valuable as 10 hours on a professional project with a team of engineers to learn from
Meh. Doesn't apply to everything. Bug bounties or finding insane zero day exploits in mainstream applications (Chrome, firefox, or Outlook) or the big kahuna which is firmware or CPU vulnerabilities is tantamount to respect and "Experience". Most cybersecurity researchers work alone or in small groups of 6 - 12. The world of developers is such a strange world of gatekeeping and fraud.
Here's an idea, don't try apply to 100 jobs. You have to tailor your CV to the business. Many grads have no idea what many companies actually do. They also have no idea about product development. You're not just trying to sell your skills, you need to show how you would use those skills to make the company money. Can you solve the company's problems, or are you just there to collect the salary and offer no direction?
What a total piece of garbage this advice is. And the problem is that I see this a lot, so apparently someone is spreading this crap. Can you imagine people who want to hire junior software developer, or any kind of software developer, sit there and ask "How can YOU, candidate, help US make more money?". If you think this is how real life works, you are completely delusional. What happens in real life: dev team has projects and tasks to do, if the current resources are not sufficient, team leader talks to business about the need of increasing dev team. Business provides financing, then dev team creates requirements for candidate. Requirements are handled to human resources, which hand them to in-house or (usually) 3rd party recruiters. Neither of these people care about MONEY which junior or senior or whatever you name it developer can bring to company. Recruiters care to cover position, dev team cares that new hire is decent both socially and technically and can perform tasks and collaborate. Software developer is not a door to door salesman, who needs to convince someone to buy their product.
Theres been more and more doomers each year huh😊
That's okay. More jobs for me!
Don’t listen to this blackpilling nonsense. I literally only had a certificate no college degree and I get my tech job and this was 25 years ag - oh wait no it was 6 months ago get with it people
*You
You are not correct.
>you will loose them money
This viedos makes me more socialist then I anticipated. In traditional way, with repressions and raskulachivaniye.
I am not a software developer, however I am in a technical position that sometimes involves me hiring a junior engineer. I personally would not give a shit if junior has pet project, I won't be using their code anyway, and because they are juniors, they dont understand how things really work in real life. I am not hiring junior to cover middle position. What I am looking for during interview is:
1) Fundamental skills and knowledge. I am not teaching basics to junior. I expect candidate to have fundamental knowledge. If you don't know, you are not junior, you are just some bloke from the street who heard that IT has high salary.
2) Communicational skills. Dude, if you are stuttering and can't answer question without mumbling or you just being weird, I simply don't want to work with a person like that, especially if I am going to be mentoring them. Speak normally and in concise manner.
3) Willingness to learn. Junior position implies a person who will be doing basic tasks, following instructions and learning lots of new information. Personally I am asking candidates about their ambitions, what they want to achieve, what they want to learn and how they are learning now. What courses they are watching, what books they are reading, etc. I dont need junior that is not willing to learn, the whole point of hiring a junior is hiring a person who has fundamental skills and knowledge and can learn on the fly so the team can oflload more simple work from middle and senior members.
The real issue with people trying to get a job is that they are unhireable to begin with. They can barely get a job at mcdonalds let alone hold onto that job for extended periods of time. Its a red flag when you have zero work history and a college degree. It is a liability to hire a dude that has been able to have minimal social social skills for their entire lives and expect them to collaborate as a team when they get to your company. I see this when I try to hire freelancers a lot since they move into freelancing next and their terrible social and communication skills makes me quickly move on to other people.
Your titles grammar is wrong
Your comment is missing an apostrophe and a period.
The content of your channel is very beautiful
I've never understood why people who studied IT infrastructure (network, systems, database) engineering had to first "cut their teeth" on the helpdesk, despite not wanting to work there. Help desk is kind of the entry level where you'd prove yourself, after that you would apply for the job you actually studied for (e.g. network engineering). But software developers skip this step and go straight into a dev role upon graduation 🤔