How *BIG* Can You Get Naturally

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  • So how big can you get naturally? In this video I let you know just that. You have a lot of factors that are in play but for the most part this video will give you an idea of what you can expect. That is if you put in the hard work. If you don’t work hard you will never get to your natural potential.
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    John Meadows is an American professional bodybuilder and entrepreneur with an intriguing story. While John now boasts a successful career as an IFBB Pro bodybuilder and fitness company owner, his journey towards the top was extremely difficult.
    Growing up, John never met his father, and his mother died at an extremely young age. This meant John only had his grandmother to take care of him. When his grandmother tragically passed away in 1999, John was left alone without his family to support him.
    As the years went by, John continued to face new adversities in his life. During his early days in bodybuilding, John suffered from a rare colon disease. After fighting the disease for several months, his colon burst - almost resulting in his death. Luckily, John was quickly rushed to an emergency room where his life was saved. After several months of recovery, John was finally back on his feet.
    Coming back into bodybuilding, John used the very obstacles that almost cost him his life as ‘fuel’ to grow stronger. Ever since he recovered from the colon surgery, John has gone on to become a successful bodybuilder, entrepreneur, and inspiration for many people all over the world.
    IFBB North American Bodybuilding Championships, Men’s Heavyweight, 4th place
    2005
    USA Bodybuilding & Figure Championships, Men’s Heavyweight, 13th place
    Los Angeles Bodybuilding, Fitness & Figure Championships, Men’s Heavyweight, 4th place
    2007
    IFBB North American Championships, Men Heavyweight, 16th place
    2010
    IFBB North American Championships, Men’s Heavyweight, 12th place
    2011
    North American Championships, IFBB Men’s Bodybuilding: Heavyweight, 9th place
    2012
    North American Championships, IFBB Bodybuilding: Over 40 - Heavyweight, 2nd place
    North American Championships, IFBB Bodybuilding: Heavyweight, 7th place
    NPC Teen, Collegiate & Masters National Championships, Bodybuilding: Over 40 - Heavyweight, 2nd place
    2013
    Masters National Championships, Bodybuilding: Masters Over 40 Super Heavyweight, 2nd place
    Masters National Championships, Bodybuilding: Masters Over 35 Super Heavyweight, 3rd place
    2014
    NPC National Championships, Bodybuilding Heavyweight, 6th place
    Masters National Championships, Bodybuilding Masters Over 35 - Super Heavyweight, 2nd place
    Team Universe, Bodybuilding Over 40 Super Heavyweight, 4th place
    2015
    NPC Universe, Bodybuilding Over 40 Overall, 1st place - Earned the Pro Card
    Wings of Strength Texas, Bodybuilding IFBB Pro 212, 5th place
    Tampa Pro, IFBB Pro 212, 3rd place
    Vancouver Pro, Bodybuilding IFBB Pro 212, 5th place
    2016
    Wings of Strength Chicago Pro, IFBB Pro Men 212, 10th place
    Toronto Pro, IFBB Pro Men 212, 10th place
    Arnold Classic, IFBB Pro 212, 9th place
    2017
    #Bodybuilding #Natty #JohnMeadows
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  • @mountaindog1
    @mountaindog1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Can You Get Ripped "Naturally" th-cam.com/video/_VNTaBO5K9I/w-d-xo.html

    • @4lc4p0rn
      @4lc4p0rn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      hey man, as alway's you're one of the best sources of information out there, but you should be very careful with suggesting that working through pain is a good idea, a lot of people dont think for themselves.
      there's different kinds of pain, and working through muscle pain is usually completely fine, but you should be really really careful with working through sudden sharp stinging pains, or joint pains.
      im sure you already know all of that, and probably more, i just wish you would have said it out loud for the people who dont.

    • @abdu1989
      @abdu1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @6:19 aww dont call yourself a genetics out liar.. you seem pretty honest to me

    • @jjwp-ql5rv
      @jjwp-ql5rv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@abdu1989
      "outlier" not "out liar"

    • @mountaindog1
      @mountaindog1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      based on how skinny he was...definitely possible with perfect training and eating

    • @MayorOfBodybuildingTV
      @MayorOfBodybuildingTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Education like this is much needed in today's world of endless information. Kids need to realize gear is a serious decision and you can.make nice gains naturally,especially when your young!

  • @chrismayfield355
    @chrismayfield355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2103

    John looks just like a ripped Mark Hamill. Luke Skysquatter.

    • @mountaindog1
      @mountaindog1  4 ปีที่แล้ว +367

      skysquatter..hahahaha

    • @christianrobles4580
      @christianrobles4580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      U took the words right out of my mouth... I feel like he’s been told that before lmaooo

    • @ynots0625
      @ynots0625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Luke I am your GymPartner

    • @ChaosFetus
      @ChaosFetus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He is Luke Skyquatter. You hear that force theme ring tone. Gosh dang, this is why I love John Meadows!

    • @ChaosFetus
      @ChaosFetus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh no, for the rest of my life I’m going to be thinking about how Luke is a little b*** version of John Meadows.
      ...Yoda is a wise old gym goer trying to encourage Luke. He tries to to get Luke to test his 1RM and lift his X wing. Luke tries for a second then gives up and gets all negative. Yoda give him the standard “wise old man pep talk” but Luke just walks away. So Yoda, like any good gym guru shows him how it’s done, then tells Luke, “that is why you’ll always be a gym bro.”

  • @reactor4
    @reactor4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1712

    "Can you get to IFBB pro level naturally? Absolutely not" Thank you for saying that.

    • @Vera-dg3hf
      @Vera-dg3hf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      We also landed on the moon 🌝

    • @khazad-
      @khazad- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Ronnie Coleman was natural and he competed, until flex told him the "news"

    • @alexanderalfonsokrook2471
      @alexanderalfonsokrook2471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@khazad- Yes and yao ming is really good in basketball probably without any kind of ergogenic help, CAUSE HE'S A FUCKING GIANT. Let me tell you a story, when i was 16 till probably 21/22 i consumed a lot pf cannabis, a fucking lot, and i, not like my friends (which were the kind of people that got at least b's and i'm talking about the year before college) i was able to devorate books and don't forget or misunderstand a thing. Does that mean than a normal person could do what i did? The answer it's no, it had a genetic cause (due to other causes also linked with expressions of certain genes and all that stuff).

    • @benis2165
      @benis2165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ryan rogers "the principal of individuality always rules" the dude in the video said. Genetics 🌠

    • @AJPuk
      @AJPuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexanderalfonsokrook2471 I've also trained under the same consumption levels... maybe it helps? Are you trying to say that we're therefore anomalies?

  • @justinhockey9427
    @justinhockey9427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +915

    40 seconds in
    Naturals: yeah we can be IFBB level!
    John: absolutely not!

    • @1fes323
      @1fes323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      HE said 99% so those 1% exist

    • @justinhockey9427
      @justinhockey9427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@1fes323 99.9%*

    • @Scrapzilla69
      @Scrapzilla69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I still have a chance is what your saying then!!

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eric Salazar just turned pro naturally but like John said he is a bantamweight guy

    • @CHLM98
      @CHLM98 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ifbb is just the federation. Ifbb in general, all over the world, isnt just the olympia and those pro events. Ifbb mostly is countries national competitions, at which most players are naturals because of the drugtested measures.

  • @thetroothhurtz
    @thetroothhurtz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +607

    John is consistently bringing some of the best content on YT

    • @AB-gz9yb
      @AB-gz9yb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eric T I love his shirt

    • @Solarmass7-7
      @Solarmass7-7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep yep. Cool dude with lots of knowledge on bodybuilding

    • @bobcharlie2337
      @bobcharlie2337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely!!

    • @silenciummortum2193
      @silenciummortum2193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No doubt man. I am getting ALL the information and more than I bargained for. Jjst started working out 3 weeks ago.
      Last two weeks:
      3 minute run
      20x5 pushups
      10x5 dips
      10x5 bicep curls 20 lb
      10x5 hammer curls 20 lb
      10x5 hex press 20 lb
      10x5 pinwheel curls 20 lb
      10x5 overhead curls (whatever they are called, holding weight above head and lowering to shoulder behind head) 30 lbs
      3 minute run
      3 days a week, 1 day of rest in between.
      Any thoughts or feedback?

    • @victorbenjamin1177
      @victorbenjamin1177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truly spoken brother

  • @lonewolf7650
    @lonewolf7650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1621

    I hope to get big as Mike O'hearn one day naturally. My favorite natural drug free bodybuilder/pathological liar.

    • @rushikeshindalkar5811
      @rushikeshindalkar5811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      😂😂

    • @lj3307
      @lj3307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      He just has big wrists and ankles 😂😂

    • @SubmissionArmwrestling
      @SubmissionArmwrestling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      He's just big boned...lol

    • @hansgehrkens
      @hansgehrkens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      You can but you have to find the special eggs he takes. They're hard to find since the duck which lays these eggs only visits about every 10 years. It nests in the top of the Disneyland castle and is called Alfred dagotren duck.

    • @nullvektor9922
      @nullvektor9922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Simeon Panda is way worse than O'Hearn. O'Hearn is so ridiculous that he seems like a massive troll.

  • @dominionn09
    @dominionn09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +965

    I love how people on the internet laugh at someone weighting 160-170lbs. Like they are not big or a joke because they are not 200. 160 with a small bone structure and low body fat at 5’8” is going to look like a beast.

    • @heftygainz
      @heftygainz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Yeah i love that as an excuse when people say "hes definitely natty cuz hes not over 200lbs" lol.

    • @T_Fizzle
      @T_Fizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      I was 5'8" 140lbs and pretty impressive if I wasn't standing next to anyone near 6'.

    • @Trenacetate43
      @Trenacetate43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +214

      many fatties overestimate their bf. Over 200 lbs natural guys are mostly just fucking fat

    • @syria7981
      @syria7981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Trenbolone acetate true

    • @jkroemer2685
      @jkroemer2685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Truth!! I'm just at 5'7 and compete at a weight between 158-163lbs. (This is me in the little profile pic lol). Currently sitting around 183lbs and 12-14% bf

  • @MarioMartinez-lj7og
    @MarioMartinez-lj7og 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    John rest in peace you are still here in everyone's hearts

  • @SebastianLarsen
    @SebastianLarsen ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I miss this man even I haven't met him. I can't believe still that he's not around. Not fair. My heart goes out to his family and friends.

  • @NegotiableHemingway
    @NegotiableHemingway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    John is one of the truest guys out there. I absolutely love his content. Most other fitness channels could learn a lot from John. A true gentleman

  • @pierrecohenmusic
    @pierrecohenmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    To add, people shouldn't confuse genetic potential with poor mind muscle connection:
    I lifted for years and, in high school, I got really strong but always had an underdeveloped chest, legs, and calves even when benching 120lb dumbells and squatting 405. It wasnt until my early 30s that I decided to train smart and focus on pure mind muscle connection with lighter weights and my chest other lagging muscles grew like crazy.
    My point is, you can bodybuild for years and not grow and think you hit your genetic potential... but unless you focus on feeling the muscle, then you may not even be close to your genetic potential. Might be common sense, but I think a lot of people overlook this.

    • @1fes323
      @1fes323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude I see football players who are sub whatever they jave abs amd ripped at 290. 100% sure they could be ready at 240 and I know them THEY ARE JUST GIFTED

    • @kw1213
      @kw1213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      To be more specific it's focusing on MAXIMAL MUSCLE CONTRACTION. "Mind muscle connection" is frankly too vague. Another thing is blood volume. A lot of people don't grow because they are focusing on how much weight they can move instead of the contraction, AND they aren't doing enough sets to fill the muscle with blood and stretch the fascia. And of course individual genetics are more important than anything but those 2 things get missed by most people that train.

    • @jsmith108
      @jsmith108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what rep range do you recommend ??

    • @pierrecohenmusic
      @pierrecohenmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      JT depends on the movement. As long as you keep it somewhere close to failure. I like 8 reps on heavy compounds and 12 reps on isolation stuff.

    • @ordinaryguy815
      @ordinaryguy815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. To look like a bodybuilder, train like a bodybuilder. It’s a skill and also wisdom that comes with age

  • @mikieemiike3979
    @mikieemiike3979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I gained like 4 maybe 5 pounds of muscle in 1 year naturally. 90% of my waking life i've spent feeling sore. You're 100% correct about the nutrition intake needing to be excellent. I'm slipping in that department now.

    • @KAZ1337x
      @KAZ1337x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you have terrible recovery if you only gained 5 pounds in a year being sore all the time

    • @mikieemiike3979
      @mikieemiike3979 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KAZ1337x I'm not a beginner. My newbie gains were more significant. I'm up about 20 lbs since this post, about 15 lbs of that is muscle.

  • @yaboijoel517
    @yaboijoel517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Who else is paying tribute, to the goat 😔

  • @MrSod3r
    @MrSod3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    I made this account when I thought I could turn pro naturally lol

    • @jeremymetcalf2502
      @jeremymetcalf2502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They only appreciate synthetically GMO'ed walking zombies.

    • @nicmunro
      @nicmunro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      at least guys like us are still above average compared to everyone else maintaining good health

    • @Vera-dg3hf
      @Vera-dg3hf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Natty IFBB Pro LMAO 😂

    • @Mecanotech
      @Mecanotech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good you woke up

    • @noelroga4593
      @noelroga4593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😆

  • @Dennisgoyette
    @Dennisgoyette 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Holy shit, I just realized why the exercise is called "the Meadow's Row"....from YOU!

  • @OP-xi1hv
    @OP-xi1hv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    You forgot to mention Mike O'Hearn as a natural.

    • @Sandsyy
      @Sandsyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤥

    • @Firefalcon88
      @Firefalcon88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All joking aside if you look at his picture of when he was 14, he looked better than a lot of grown men. No doubt he was natural then, being so young but I don’t think he’s on as much as most think. The guy was destined to be a God among men. Absolutely not natural and probably hasn’t been for decades but he was destined for greatness, genetically, from the get-go.

    • @liamengram6326
      @liamengram6326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To me the reason I would believe Bugez if he told me flat out he is natty is his lifting numbers. All of his PR lifts have been done when he is around 250 and a bit huskier. Even when he cuts down to 230 he isn't shredded, he just has mildly visible abs. And when he DOES cut down, his lifts go down proportionately. A major sign of gear - to me - is when someone cuts down like 15-20lbs, and goes below 10% bodyfat but their lifts all stay pretty much the same. That, to me, is pretty much impossible to do as a natty.

  • @weightlifter210
    @weightlifter210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Don’t forget perfect sleep and lack of stress. Relying on natural test production both are important lifestyle factors.

  • @symqual1774
    @symqual1774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I must call you Professor John!!! This lecture is very useful to know myself and set the goal of gaining the muscle. I'm so gateful to you!

  • @FranciscoGomez-mo5kf
    @FranciscoGomez-mo5kf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s crazy how this video popped up on my recommended today 😔 RIP

  • @Meemeeseecoo
    @Meemeeseecoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thanks again for the great video. This guy is such a genuine & good dude. I’m 6’3 but could only get up to 190 in my 20’s when I was in the gym constantly and in really good shape. Now I’m 34, 6’3 and weigh 230, mostly beer weight haha. Been working out for about 4 weeks straight, just gonna keep on trucking and hope to be in decent shape by summer for the pool. Much love man.

  • @adamcolts
    @adamcolts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video John. Very well done as always!

  • @hutchsky33
    @hutchsky33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seems like a genuine nice guy and very humble with his knowledge.

  • @Adam-qh8vf
    @Adam-qh8vf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Refreshing to see honest and real input from someone with experience and knowledge.

  • @17vmrivas
    @17vmrivas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That red hulk in the background is super dope.

  • @markagustin7321
    @markagustin7321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pray for us CHAMP! Currently watching for my daily dose of inspiration 🙏🏼

  • @lycanpower6038
    @lycanpower6038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    John, I am so grateful for you! This is by far the best video you’ve ever done, IMO. I am 100% natural and I gained 40 pounds in 4 years. I am still pushing. I’m 6’3” and weigh 235. It’s been a struggle many times, but all worth it. I’d love to hit it hard with you one day...maybe you could come to Mississippi one day!!! 👍💪👊🐺

  • @TheFast804
    @TheFast804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’m 26 6’3” 195lbs, I’ve been training since I was 16 and I let my self balloon up to 230 from horrible training and nutrition. I decided to start taking things seriously and started training 6 days a week and tracking everything I eat. I’m bigger and stronger now than I ever was as a teen or in my early 20’s! I still have a long way to go but I believe this video is pretty precise!

    • @tonesunia9728
      @tonesunia9728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im on same boat as you bro keep grinding

    • @unizozz
      @unizozz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude you and me have the exact same weight/training/age/height . 😂 Cutting down right now to 195 from 230. Trained for 10 years but somewhere in those years I forgot to progress in my training. So now I'm starting to see gains again.

    • @ronaldrichardson4451
      @ronaldrichardson4451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my man u r still n your early 20's peace

    • @ronaldrichardson4451
      @ronaldrichardson4451 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      my bad bro read your post wrong peace!

    • @TheFast804
      @TheFast804 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andy Evans never said I was huge but I’m not a runt either....

  • @benstevenson1908
    @benstevenson1908 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The amount of quality free info you give out is absolutely insane, Big thanks from ireland

  • @monkeyman41333
    @monkeyman41333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish I could give this TWO thumbs up. Excellent video John. I used the various calculators, and they were pretty darn accurate. The one by Casey Butt, to me was the best. When I plugged in my stats, it was almost bang on with my measurements at my last contest. One thing I think needs to be mentioned, is that it is much harder to add muscle as your age, especially if you are not on TRT, due to the reduced Testosterone production as we get older.

  • @jonmolson7819
    @jonmolson7819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    JM: ALWAYS appreciate your integrity in all your videos.

  • @lowkeybeatspg
    @lowkeybeatspg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your videos consistently demystify the natty vs enhanced ambiguity that is unfortunately so prevalent in this industry, thank you! 🤩

  • @JDJ1213
    @JDJ1213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thumbs up for always telling it how it is. Keep up the great work John!

  • @seang9751
    @seang9751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Realistic answers to everyone’s ultimate fitness/health questions of wonder. Solid!👍💪

  • @heavycruzer1801
    @heavycruzer1801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mr. Meadows you're simply the best all around there is

  • @kyleknickerbocker6602
    @kyleknickerbocker6602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad you're shedding light on this topic. Very useful and helpful information that everyone should know and realize.

  • @jackbrady9738
    @jackbrady9738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    video quality and sound quality are TOP NOTCH John. Awesome

  • @dave_asara
    @dave_asara 4 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    I’m too old to be laughing at your shirt 😂

  • @jackbrady9738
    @jackbrady9738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    congrats on being such a down to earth likeable guy respect

  • @timbotemon
    @timbotemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    John you are so polite, I love how you described Lyle. Respectful but clear. Hope you're well!

  • @reginaldoppenheimer334
    @reginaldoppenheimer334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great no bullcrap video John. Love your style of delivery and your expert info.

  • @strenghtsoul0702
    @strenghtsoul0702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These calculators are awesome and pretty accurate John. My height is 180 cm and I’m 93 kg with 8% bf natural. The calculator shows I’m in the 26,4 range, which indicates I’m at my genetic potential indeed (after 10 years of hard training and good nutrition). Love your content man, keep it up!!

    • @MrChriz333
      @MrChriz333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Strenght&Soul070 are you sure 8% bf is right? 93kg, 8% body fat is insane natural. Most guys cant even reach 80-85 8% bf

  • @swingforthefences777
    @swingforthefences777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting as always. Thank you John. I am new to the gym only one month in but I’m training really hard six days a week. Your videos help me learn new exercises and not make as many mistakes as a beginner.

  • @stevehelgerson206
    @stevehelgerson206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content. Please keep it coming. It's greatly appreciated. There needs to be more of this information out out there so people realize what's really possible.

  • @justina208
    @justina208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice straight, quantitative talk about what you can expect. Thank you!

  • @TheBodybuilder57
    @TheBodybuilder57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just did mine through Eric's formula, also i am a week out from my 1st natural bodybuilding competition. Went and got a dexa scan last Tuesday. It had me at 7.5% bf weighing 164 I'm 5"10 and I got a score of 21.8..... I would say that's pretty accurate, i've been training seriously for 5 years.

  • @ethanjames2936
    @ethanjames2936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't typically comment on videos.. but I love your plethora of knowledge and good vibes you put out! One of, if not, my favorite bb coaches. Even just went and purchased one of hilarious t-shirts! Hope you stay strong and healthy! Glad you're feeling better, Mr. Meadows!! Keep up the hard work, sir! 💪🏻💪🏻

  • @nateknierim7312
    @nateknierim7312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video man! It was very informative to me because I plan to do my first natural show next year. As a father of two you try to find the right time but you gotta make time. You randomly popped up in my feed. It gave me hope for my first show I just turned 31 and feel I'm in my prime. I have trained very hard for many years staying natural and checking that site out I'm in the 26 range area so I'm stoked as hell about that. Look forward to your other videos brother I'm sure you have plenty of tips I can incorporate into my training. Only way to grow is to learn.

  • @j.dieason7527
    @j.dieason7527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice work John, you’ve always seemed like a nice honest guy. Keep the vids coming, I appreciate your videos

  • @Venom-ib5vs
    @Venom-ib5vs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RIP Big Guy

  • @robertnaus88
    @robertnaus88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i cannot stress the importance of proper nutrition enough. I have been virtually training for 26 years while on extremely bad diet, having no clue, that i need protein and be in surplus. I was even vegetarian and vegan some of those years. I was always skinny, i am 6`3 about 160-165lbs was my usual weight. But i did train 4-5x a week, heavy mostly but never grew. I just assumed its genetic and stopped worrying about it at certain point. I finally got my head out of my ass this February and started to eat right. Now 9 months later i am lean at 177lbs and i can see the difference. I just dont know how stupid and ignorant i was all these years. Now at 43 my right knee and shoulder is bad so i cant do what i could before, but thats not gonna stop me. I hope my story will help at least one person, who wonders why they dont grow.
    P.S great video as always John, keep it up!

  • @JPMCuisine
    @JPMCuisine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great content! I never knew these types of calculators existed and it's nice to have you explain their background and purpose.

  • @saturationstation1446
    @saturationstation1446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this has to be the best video about building muscle that i have ever seen. never heard anyone take into account environmental stressors before this. this is truly a comprehensive evaluation of human potential. being in an overly stressful environment is going to produce hormones that will work against growth. coupled with a sub optimal diet and sub optimal sleep routine, even not bathing often enough, will all stunt a persons physical abilities far more than 99% of people want to admit..

  • @mconcepcion752
    @mconcepcion752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've gained about 15Ibs in 3 years. Only now is everything being optimized.
    Even so with Eric Helms calculation I am around 20.5. Better than I thought

  • @carpediem6568
    @carpediem6568 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this technical stuff. Steve Reeves developed an intricate system which gave the genetic potential of each body part, based on bone structure. Really neat, for its time.

  • @utopianseeker5493
    @utopianseeker5493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, consistency is essential! Great video John!

  • @donaldsavage3699
    @donaldsavage3699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always good Sound Advice... Thanks John!

  • @fuckmyego
    @fuckmyego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    John your Lyle comment made me laugh. Also accurate. Seems pretty hard to get along with, but goddamn does that guy do his research. I'm a begrudging "fan"

  • @jatindersingh9659
    @jatindersingh9659 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    John is the truth. No bs here..The genetics chat is so absolutly true. Some just dont want to believe. A true realist, which I respect.

  • @evil4d
    @evil4d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great post, this has to be one of the most common questions going through any bodybuilding enthusiast. Your honesty is so refreshing, and your experience and knowledge on the sport second to none. Keep more of these posts coming

  • @TheObicobiHD
    @TheObicobiHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always appreciate the videos and knowledge John! I am still a thin lad just started my journey though I have been a fan for a while. Found ya through Juji and Tom last year. Finally I decided to take action, only took me almost 22yrs lol

  • @AT-vc3kz
    @AT-vc3kz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was really interesting, I’m gonna try it later

  • @ghost95
    @ghost95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to say that you sir really motivated me. After a big weight loss (70 kg) and 4 years of Training and working my ass off i had lost alot of fun just showing up and going for the body i really wanna see in the mirror but this was just really refreshing and the funny part is it wasnt even something new every other fitness youtuber is talking about the same things and same formulas but there is something very professional about your content that keeps everything acceptable and for the first time in years i have the feeling of just knowing where this route is taking me.
    Anyways thank you very much for your Time to just talk some sense into me maybe a few more others here i really appreciate that.

  • @DennyMunson
    @DennyMunson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honest sound , experienced based information. Great video!

  • @UrSturdyWing
    @UrSturdyWing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video John, as always a source of knowledge and wisdom. As a suggestion I would love for you to elaborate on managing recovery as a natural lifter. For me and a lot of your listeners, diet, training, consistency and mindset have already been drilled in through years of experience. The question that remains is not how much we can train (infinite), but how to balance intense training against recovery to optimise not only gains but quality of life.
    I've been in many situations where my training has been ruthless and has led to overtraining, or fantastic results but terrible mood/life-balance. It's an extremely fine line between applying stress to force adaptation and compromising your system entirely, and It's been really tough personally for me to manage that dynamic, especially as I love to constantly be improving. How do you approach implementing recovery into your program, and to a wider sense your life?

    • @DevonBarrett
      @DevonBarrett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great comment & question. In the same boat as you mate

    • @Biggmofo
      @Biggmofo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent point.

  • @patricksaldivia-oliva3964
    @patricksaldivia-oliva3964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You will be missed, I never knew you but you gave me a lot of tips on ow to approach improving myseld, diet and training to stop being a fat fuck. Thanks and R.I.P.

    • @ethancate8462
      @ethancate8462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What on earth are you talking about

    • @sageninja7260
      @sageninja7260 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ethancate8462 it’s pretty easy to comprehend what he’s saying…

    • @ethancate8462
      @ethancate8462 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sageninja7260 Seriously? This is how I figured out he passed, leave me alone.

  • @callummarks2080
    @callummarks2080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very wholesome channel compared to other TH-cam channels! I unsubscribed to many recently but came across this channel and its good quality. 😎👍

  • @MiAuthority
    @MiAuthority 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive seen a few vids and this was awesome. Thanks for being so straight up with useage, beliefs and justifications.

  • @Angel_Ripoff
    @Angel_Ripoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The beard is looking good, John, thanks for the great info!
    As my triceps start to fatigue, I start losing the mind-muscle connection. Any tips for maintaining it and making sure I'm still getting that good contraction/squeeze?

  • @oWMatt
    @oWMatt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can share to you guys my experience. I was and I still am natty, not compiting, amateur, always trained alone. I trained at avarage 4 times per week, no diet plan, working at different and very mixed shifts (a lot of night shifts)...
    - My first day in the gym was when I was 20 years old (70kg/182cm/around 13% body fat);
    -I am now almost 24 years old (85kg/182cm/around 10% body fat).
    I love lifting weights, I don't usually lift really heavy, I have a little bit of scoliosis in my lower back. I like to eat whatever I like but I do add some healthy food here and there. Consistency is what I think it works for me the most.

  • @lammaking333
    @lammaking333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video , very truthful and informative. I would love to hear a touch up video on the air quality and other environmental factors

  • @TheTektronik
    @TheTektronik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for spilling this out.

  • @stephenjones2892
    @stephenjones2892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Being 43 myself I'd love to have your opinion on getting older while bodybuilding and the things you now need to do to be the best version of you that you can be. Many thanks champ 👌👏

  • @toddgoogle4387
    @toddgoogle4387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    John is one of the most honest men in the industry. I don't know him but you can tell he's truly authentic.

  • @andreasbaumgartner1162
    @andreasbaumgartner1162 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Real talk from the mountain dog
    Excellent work you did there
    I wish more fitness youtubers were as honest, calm and informative as you are
    Keep up the good work
    Really appreciate your knowledge and advice

  • @schuylervanduyne2372
    @schuylervanduyne2372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another important factor is to decide what are you training for. If you aspire to be big like John, your approach needs to be focused on lifting like a bodybuilder. Making the mind/muscle connection. Find the exercise that works best for you. It is a balancing act between rest, nutrition and training. I learned that only a few really ever get dialed in and make the adjustments to really get results. Hormone levels, calories, recovery, along with getting enough sleep are often overlooked! If anyone could figure out how we ended up with that “perfect workout” we would be famous. Keep on bringing your wisdom John. The calculator is pretty much dead on.

  • @jimbersmcimbers
    @jimbersmcimbers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That FFMI is pretty accurate as far as I'm concerned. I've trained for 16 years naturally and came out at 25.3.

    • @desertguy1362
      @desertguy1362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its the gold standard. Seriously.

  • @jamiehay1027
    @jamiehay1027 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Always watch John's videos to get hyped up before the gym😄

    • @mapyn131
      @mapyn131 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      did that Monday and still have sore arms on Friday

  • @Dr_Dude
    @Dr_Dude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This topic is really eye opening, thanks a lot John!

  • @lugohstsotofitness7817
    @lugohstsotofitness7817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mountain Dog. You are a bad ass and honorable man for this video. WOW how many high profile pros have the balls to actually be honest in this subject. Have not seen many if any in all 6 years of my lifting career. You are a very very high profile pro and seeing this made me give MASSIVE respect to you. By the way, that shirt, Ho Lee Chit.

  • @TuanNguyen-dz9ri
    @TuanNguyen-dz9ri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Can you do a natural vs enhanced training?

    • @wmw1182
      @wmw1182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Progressive overload with deadlift squat bench press overhead press

    • @1fes323
      @1fes323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Greg always covered it.
      And no

    • @dennisn8523
      @dennisn8523 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tuan Nguyen greg will make a response video watch out

    • @GodSpeed1105
      @GodSpeed1105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only difference is in reps/ sets that's it.

    • @SnifferSock
      @SnifferSock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1fes323 He did and it was full of crap.

  • @jbfitness7658
    @jbfitness7658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now before i saw this video i believed there was something in wrist size and ankle size that was a good indicator of how much muscle you can hold. My bone structure isn't very big at all. I have small hands, wrists and ankles but also my bones are pretty long in comparison to my muscles. This is made more apparent. For example from the inside of my elbow to the start of where my bicep begins is at least a 6-7 cm gap. So with a t shirt on it looks like I have no bicep as the t shirts would sit on the 6-7 cm gap leaving my bicep high up in the t shirt. That being said i know I train hard as a natural and watching this video really does highlight that genetically the base has to be there to become great at this sport. But it does make me feel a little proud that I really dont have the best body genetically for bodybuilding , but I've done well with what genetics I have. Despite the combination of long bones and short muscles and my clothes hiding my muscles. I know I have them . So to all the natural, less genetically gifted people out there . Let's keep at it and be the best version of ourselves that we can be.
    Great video. Thank you

  • @hatfieldmccoy2359
    @hatfieldmccoy2359 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy your videos! I like how you are always real and honest! Keep up the good work!

  • @TimeOut210
    @TimeOut210 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your content, advice and personable explanations are top class, John.

  • @kellaway-1578
    @kellaway-1578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Meno hensslemans has a fantastic calculator as well. It's even more detailed

  • @GoteNnick
    @GoteNnick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's quite interesting, when I first started to train at the age of 17 i only weight 50kg in the years through untill my 21th birthday I only reached the maximum of 67kg although I'm very light and have indonesian genes which stuck me at a lower weight.
    My dad told me to be patient because he had the same issue in his younger years. He started to gain weight quick after his 30's and weight a maximum of around 90kg with pure consistancy over the years.
    So i guess it is possible to overdo this forumula but I also think it is quite accurate as well.. genetics sucks sometimes but I guess i've got to wait hahaha
    Although a great video, love your content and tips! My dad thought me the exact same tips like you do! Keep it up

  • @peterowley2014
    @peterowley2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this guy so honest and genuine!

  • @MadACeTeeMack
    @MadACeTeeMack 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video I have seen related to the science of bodybuilding. Thanks and really awesome!!! Much respect as well for bringing the knowledge and keeping it real.

  • @thekproject9339
    @thekproject9339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey John, Any chance you can do some videos for people interested in becoming a coach or PT? I'd love to see your perspective on clients, calls, ect as a coach. Im working hard to become a great Trainer.

    • @incomemobile8566
      @incomemobile8566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How's the training going one year later?????

    • @thekproject9339
      @thekproject9339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@incomemobile8566 still a work in progress learned a lot about myself. Got a little better got a little worse. Learned about some mental stuff I have to take care of but progress is progress no matter how small!

  • @rgk9999
    @rgk9999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Everybody seems to know that one 'freak' they point to. But this is the exception, not the rule. I came up in a powerlifting environment, and there was one guy in the gym that was so much smaller in stature than most, but the dude was a beast in strength.

  • @togomental
    @togomental 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honesty and clairvoyance. 👍

  • @godsbeast.69
    @godsbeast.69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    John your absolutely correct. (Big fan by the way👍🏽)
    I’ve been training over 12 yrs balls to the wall.
    Huge amounts of quality food. And brutal training.
    I’m always being accused of using, not that theirs anything wrong with it,
    It’s a very personal choice. And May indeed plan to at some point.
    But going back to when you stated bone size,
    My wrists are 9.2inches
    I’ve built 21 arms with naturally high peak with double split accused of synthol too.
    My calves 20.4” & neck at 20 1/2”
    The mind set in conjunction has been the key factor along with mental & physical genetics.
    I’m around 12% bf at just over 18st.

  • @BatmanBoss
    @BatmanBoss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice Red Hulk Statue. Sideshow? Always wondered if you had any of those since you wear so many shirts with Super hero’s on them

  • @HolyPineCone
    @HolyPineCone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a thin bone structure and am a bit Short but recover relatively well. I'm not prone to injuries either. I don't look increadibly muscular with a shirt but have gotten quite strong over the years so my genetic drawbacks have been compensated by my fortunate features. I will never be as big as a troll but after 15 years of training, less injuries is worth more to me.

  • @ScottyLo
    @ScottyLo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video. I never knew there was such a formula to see what your max potential is. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @stothetacks
    @stothetacks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your insight John! The calculators seem relevant. There was similar results between the two. Good approximation

  • @Mclovin2469
    @Mclovin2469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Him: my 7" wrist is small.
    Me: cries looking at my 6" wrists

    • @mattybhoy6522
      @mattybhoy6522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Denis Cyplenkov. 9,4 inch wrists. What a monster lol

    • @tbl5138
      @tbl5138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im 6 foot 7 and i have a 7.5 inch wrist but it still doesnt look big idk

    • @scycosnake3964
      @scycosnake3964 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matty Bhoy Have you seen Gunnar rosbos wrist? It looks like its freakin 11 inches

    • @MrRizo23
      @MrRizo23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hear you, mine are just 6.5,'' and I'm 5'10 tall so proportionally they do look quite thin. Still, according to those calculations I can still get my arms to over 17 inches naturally. not bad at all imo .

    • @scycosnake3964
      @scycosnake3964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MrRizo23 How do you get wider arms? I can get a higher peak but its hard to gain width especially with a narrow bone structure

  • @tomryan9269
    @tomryan9269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I gained around 40 pounds naturally over a 5 year span of lifting I was 5’8 140 I’m now 180 plan on getting to 190 this year. Just be consistent with meals and on point with training the gains will come

  • @mehdihassan9957
    @mehdihassan9957 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    loved it!!!! i will watch it again. very serious and informative...i love how u are generating knowledge in your mind and speaking it out at the same time!

  • @wilsonlee63
    @wilsonlee63 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad to see you make this video John, you are a beast whether you were natural or not. I'm sure it concerns everyone who ever picked up weights, those 2 guys you mentioned were so exceptional they were probably not from this world. Not only I hear some online coaches /trainers giving false expectations, even some vegan nut cases claim you can be on a vegan diet & still can be an IFBB Pro in top 10 placings & world record breaking powerlifter & strongman too without ever eating animal proteins, then it's for sure you aren't from earth. I'm a natural & well past middle age under 3 years of weight training but who has very narrow wrist & very skinny thighs "most probably small boned" but the rest seems normal for my weight of 130lbs of 5.6''. I train 6 days a week for 2- 2 1/2 hours per day with high reps & moderately heavy & was able to gain decent size with lean muscles & vascularity possibly better conditioned than some bigger but softer looking guys... I definitely lack the size.

  • @thogard6002
    @thogard6002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for this vid. After one year of training, I’ve been really curious about most, if not all, the topics you covered.
    Questions concerning bone size as in the wrists and ankles have always been on my mind as I don’t have big and thick bone structure.
    Genetics overall can be discouraging, but I’m determined to give it everything I can. Diet has been better along with training and recovery. Looking forward to seeing what the gains are after year two.
    Thanks again