Well. Technically it’s two polarization filters on top of eachother and to make it darker you rotate a single polarization filter and for the removal of reflections the ring rotates both filters equally in same direction.
@@dalex100I don’t know about this but from qhat I got feom reading his comment was that you would need *two* on top of each other and playing with both a bit to find the perfect spot between exposure and reflections
I highly recommend this for photographers who use their VND and CPL filter IN COMBINATION often. Otherwise, and this applies to most photographers, I would not recommend it. The reason why is that even when you set either of these filters to their minimum setting, they aren't entirely neutral and are still filtering to a degree. This means that when you want to use your CPL but need to let as much light in as possible, even with the VND on its lowest setting, it will be restricting a small amount of light from coming through. If you want to use your VND but want as much reflection as possible (like a shot of a lake that mirrors its surrounds) or the saturation to be as natural as possible, even with the CPL at it's lowest setting it will still be polarising the light to a degree. These two filters aren't necessarily always going to be used in conjunction with each other. I highly recommend having them separate to allow you more freedom with your photography and to get the most out of your lenses.
For anyone wondering how it removes reflected light: Reflected light is usually polarised, and polarised light passing through a polariser at a particular angle can cancel out the light waves.
@@kazutowong nope, light gets polarized when it reflects, unless the angle of attack is exactly 90 degrees. The polarizing filter stops the polarized light from passing through but lets other light through. Although it also lessens the amount of other light that gets through the only light that gets completely stopped is the light that’s perpendicular in polarization in comparison to what the filter lets through.
I wish some brand would come out and sell vnds, nds and polarisers for reasonable prices. There’s no way you can build a lens with computers, motors, aperture blades and complex glass elements for 300-600 dollars but a mass produced piece of straight glass with a plastic film glued to it is 200-400.
@@MrBossPapineewer has 2in1 vnd+cpl. I use their gopro ones and they’re pretty good. Not sure about the VND they tend to have worse QA/vignetting regardless of brand but worth a try for $60-70
Well, just any fader-nd can achieve the same. You just need to rotate the entire filter once you nail in the exposure, it will work as polarizer in conjunction. Been doing that since i got my first fader-nd.
I have a love/hate relationship with this filter. I am a nature/landscape photographer and used this heavily for a year. Love: Great concept, does work well for me. Hate: A heavy filter that has loosened my favorite zoom lens because of the weight. Lens needs serviced as the lens extends by itself now when I carry my camera on shoots PLUS although it's "good glass" it casts images with a green tint requiring correction in post. Great but not perfect.
Neat! I recently started using a CPL filter to remove the glare from glossy jigsaw puzzles and it worked! Day and night 👍🏻😁 this lens must cost hundreds of dollars im sure!?
Well of course. All VND would also be a circular polarizer as a VND is a circular polarizer on top of another. If you buy 2 circular polarizers and place them together, you made a VND. Though I will say that the interface is nice. If it is not too much more than two circular polarizers, this would be nice for the interface it uses.
Use it to take pictures of sunlight coming through clouds. It makes rainbows in them that are usually hard to see without wearing polarized sunglasses while looking through something like a polarized sun roof window
Correction: a polarizer (or more precise polarisation filter) does not remove reflections on metallic surfaces or regular mirrors as their reflection is caused by a metal coating on glass.
@@ichxnge Still quite expensive to be honest though. In the Philippines that's 20k php meaning you could buy a second hand motorcycle or 2 starter lenses for a camera or a body only camera itself :-/
@@Schizo_Pink_Pekora Well i guess for a professional video and photographer it's not but for the common folks who'd just like to have and use one it's quite the stretch.
old school technology. In the 1960s, two linear polarizers of which one is stationary and the other rotates. Was your average cinematographer's tool to shoot a fade-out or fade-in. When cameras got TTL exposure meters - and now sensors - the linear polarizers became a problem to proper light metering. Enter circular polarizers. One challenge is for the polariser to retain colour neutrality across its working range. The innovation here? that it is possible to align the two filters and then rotate them as if they are one circular polariser used to suppress reflections (which only works when the reflecting surface polarises the light it reflects, btw, which metal surfaces may not do, so a photographer can work around that by firing polarised light at such surfaces).
More....more!! Ive been a amateur photographer for 16 years, learned everything I know by myself and trial and error. I learned more watching your shorts then the hole 16 years
PROFESSIONAL ADVICE: Especially with long lenses, it's best to chose filters that are single glass! An expensive Hoya variable ND filter destroyed our film's action fight scene in a location we can't reshoot (Bolivian Salt Desert). The only variable ND filter I trust is PolarPro, I wouldn't trust a dual rotating polarizer for a professional shoot if my life dependent on it.
If a VND is basically 2 polarisers, how does a third polarisers not interfere with that? Because we know when you use a third one, that's how light works, it messes with the configuration of the first two.
Sorry for your loss, i'm sure that you'll get back on grind doing what you love and enjoying it , good vibes only : ) Remember everything happens for a reason😉 (consider it a sign)
@@nenadradosavljevic439 will try that, I think I've read somewhere on the Internet that it should be cpl closer to the lens but I'll try other way around
@@awesomebydefault3877 nd filters and polarisers are super over priced though, you can get amazing lenses for 1000 dollars and really good ones for 500+ which have precision curved glass elements, circuit boards, computers, motors and precision moving aperture blades. But somehow a filter which is just a straight bit of mass manufactured glass with a filter plastic film glued to it costs 450.
@@definingslawek4731 camera stuff are monopolized AF hence why Same companies that made ink for printers which are also super overpriced (this by itself got many scandales behind it like how they made many ink cartridges stop working earlier than they should on purpose) And yes I’m mainly talking about canon
Dude, that’s so cool I’ve been researching cameras to buy and I’m definitely adding this to List think of all the money he would save and it’s under $100 depending on your size
Yep, every VND does that because a VND is basically two polarizers rotating on top of each other 😉 but I tested it and the effect with the VNDs I have is less strong.
Beautifully executed camera very Leica like, I had both G4 and G5 boy did they suck 😂 today’s flip phones sold at kosher stores of borough park produce better quality images
Having polarized glasses and turning your head side to side can be trippy sometimes. And also annoying because it makes your phone screen disappear at certain angles
Waiting for Sony to remake the new Xperia 1 mk. V into a next generation of Xperia Pro and stick one of those on the main camera with electronic controls for it. Seems like something they'd do.
Get yours here 👉🏻 Regular: amzn.to/3NnsnHZ
PRO: amzn.to/3HuSLeV 💥 And by the way, when I say 'metal', it has to be painted, like a car.
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I want one
Awesome 👌
🙌🙌🙌
@@downsouthoutnabout 10? 👀👀
Well. Technically it’s two polarization filters on top of eachother and to make it darker you rotate a single polarization filter and for the removal of reflections the ring rotates both filters equally in same direction.
so technically, you could use a VND as a polarizing filter by rotating both filter by unscrewing the whole filter? or am I saying non sense?
@@dalex100 i believe so.... In theory atleast.
@@dalex100 i am listening
@@dalex100I don’t know about this but from qhat I got feom reading his comment was that you would need *two* on top of each other and playing with both a bit to find the perfect spot between exposure and reflections
Yes you are right.
I highly recommend this for photographers who use their VND and CPL filter IN COMBINATION often. Otherwise, and this applies to most photographers, I would not recommend it.
The reason why is that even when you set either of these filters to their minimum setting, they aren't entirely neutral and are still filtering to a degree.
This means that when you want to use your CPL but need to let as much light in as possible, even with the VND on its lowest setting, it will be restricting a small amount of light from coming through.
If you want to use your VND but want as much reflection as possible (like a shot of a lake that mirrors its surrounds) or the saturation to be as natural as possible, even with the CPL at it's lowest setting it will still be polarising the light to a degree.
These two filters aren't necessarily always going to be used in conjunction with each other. I highly recommend having them separate to allow you more freedom with your photography and to get the most out of your lenses.
Thats a good point. What ND filter would you recommend for portrait?
But using two filters separately can create vignetting on wide angle 16-30mm :/
For anyone wondering how it removes reflected light:
Reflected light is usually polarised, and polarised light passing through a polariser at a particular angle can cancel out the light waves.
Wouldnt the reflected light be consider non polarized and once it passes through the polarizer it becomes polarized
@@kazutowong nope, light gets polarized when it reflects, unless the angle of attack is exactly 90 degrees.
The polarizing filter stops the polarized light from passing through but lets other light through. Although it also lessens the amount of other light that gets through the only light that gets completely stopped is the light that’s perpendicular in polarization in comparison to what the filter lets through.
I’m surprised so many people do not know this. It’s something we did in like year 8
Now this is what we all need in life. I'm not even a photographer.
Yeah
exactly my thought😂
Haha!
I’ve bought 17 of these and don’t even own a camera. They are fantastic coasters though
@@Randomstuff77654 why tf did u bought 17?
I wish some brand would come out and sell vnds, nds and polarisers for reasonable prices. There’s no way you can build a lens with computers, motors, aperture blades and complex glass elements for 300-600 dollars but a mass produced piece of straight glass with a plastic film glued to it is 200-400.
Exactly! Swear our governments need to regulate these things. No way NDs should be that expensive.
There is a brand on Amazon that makes these for around £70
@@christinagracewhitewhat’s the brand please?
@@MrBossPapineewer has 2in1 vnd+cpl. I use their gopro ones and they’re pretty good. Not sure about the VND they tend to have worse QA/vignetting regardless of brand but worth a try for $60-70
K&f version is about 50 usd in norway
the rotating animation looks like german aiming system on tanks from ww2
Well, just any fader-nd can achieve the same. You just need to rotate the entire filter once you nail in the exposure, it will work as polarizer in conjunction. Been doing that since i got my first fader-nd.
Will be here for sure! That thing looks great!
That's dope man a must have lens 🔥
I have a love/hate relationship with this filter. I am a nature/landscape photographer and used this heavily for a year. Love: Great concept, does work well for me. Hate: A heavy filter that has loosened my favorite zoom lens because of the weight. Lens needs serviced as the lens extends by itself now when I carry my camera on shoots PLUS although it's "good glass" it casts images with a green tint requiring correction in post. Great but not perfect.
So don’t use it on a zoom lens… noted
@@jojuanwinfrey3702 Oh brother, what the fuk is it good for then??? Sheeee.
Whenever you use filters, once you put it on your lense you get a grey card and set the white balance after it’s on.
@@mylzq Yeah, well, that is true BUT the green cast on this filter is overt. And that is what you see on the camera when shooting.
@@mylzq Not practical for run-and-gun events such as weddings. You are quickly shooting in many different lighting situations.
Neat! I recently started using a CPL filter to remove the glare from glossy jigsaw puzzles and it worked! Day and night 👍🏻😁 this lens must cost hundreds of dollars im sure!?
I've had a clip-on polarizer for my smartphone since 2021. It is an absolute GAME CHANGER especially for automotive photography.
Well of course. All VND would also be a circular polarizer as a VND is a circular polarizer on top of another. If you buy 2 circular polarizers and place them together, you made a VND. Though I will say that the interface is nice. If it is not too much more than two circular polarizers, this would be nice for the interface it uses.
Same as any other variable nd filter, just with a bearing to rotate the the polerizers together as well as relative to one another.
link???
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he put the link up
Use it to take pictures of sunlight coming through clouds. It makes rainbows in them that are usually hard to see without wearing polarized sunglasses while looking through something like a polarized sun roof window
Asking for a friend
Does it make it easier to take photos through someone else’s window?
Yes.
Lmao police! 😂
I was also Very interested for my friend
FBI OPEN UP.
Do you need a matte box if you have a nd filter?
Correction: a polarizer (or more precise polarisation filter) does not remove reflections on metallic surfaces or regular mirrors as their reflection is caused by a metal coating on glass.
ok bobbert
Good info
And it's yours at the price you could even buy a second hand car with!
wtf
No it’s only 350
@@ichxnge Still quite expensive to be honest though. In the Philippines that's 20k php meaning you could buy a second hand motorcycle or 2 starter lenses for a camera or a body only camera itself :-/
Pretty sure it's not that expensive...
@@Schizo_Pink_Pekora Well i guess for a professional video and photographer it's not but for the common folks who'd just like to have and use one it's quite the stretch.
Yow nice editing do you have an editor?
I am the editor!! 💪🏻🔥
@@JorisHermans that's nice bro do you have like an Instagram or email or something?
old school technology. In the 1960s, two linear polarizers of which one is stationary and the other rotates. Was your average cinematographer's tool to shoot a fade-out or fade-in. When cameras got TTL exposure meters - and now sensors - the linear polarizers became a problem to proper light metering. Enter circular polarizers.
One challenge is for the polariser to retain colour neutrality across its working range.
The innovation here? that it is possible to align the two filters and then rotate them as if they are one circular polariser used to suppress reflections (which only works when the reflecting surface polarises the light it reflects, btw, which metal surfaces may not do, so a photographer can work around that by firing polarised light at such surfaces).
More....more!! Ive been a amateur photographer for 16 years, learned everything I know by myself and trial and error. I learned more watching your shorts then the hole 16 years
But this is actually just 2 polarizing filters, it's not ND and polarizing.
Than the whole*
Which one is better...the K and f or the Haida vnd+cpl?
My H&Y Revoring does this and it’s bulkier, but then it fits on a variety of lenses and it has 1.5 - 10 stops of light control.
That’s so cool! I’ve Never seen an VND with a built in Polarizer. Can’t wait for the giveaway 👀
Drops today 👀🫡
VND it's made from two CPL
Fixing these things without software is pretty incredible
Polarization is such a seriously cool phenomenon. I love it.
bought this last week, only thing that's a bummer is, that the lens cap does not stay up on this filter :(
cool combo!
Gotta respect the grind
Súper interesante para integrarlo al flujo de trabajo 🙌🏼
Omg, videos with this filter look just fantastic!
Can I have one but like for my eyes ?
I recognize those locations. Looks like Santo Domingo's Malecón
Cool Stuff..!!
Variable ND Filters are two polarizing filters stacked on top of each other, it would be difficult for them to not also be polarizing filters...
This!
Bought it off rip it’s amazing!
How much? Will it fin on my OPPO smartphone? I have a case with 67mm mount, I have a few cool filters :D
What size should I get? I have a 18-300 mm tamron lens and a prime 20 mm Sony g master. Would there be a size of this filter that works for both?
How is vignetting? It looks thicccc
PROFESSIONAL ADVICE: Especially with long lenses, it's best to chose filters that are single glass! An expensive Hoya variable ND filter destroyed our film's action fight scene in a location we can't reshoot (Bolivian Salt Desert). The only variable ND filter I trust is PolarPro, I wouldn't trust a dual rotating polarizer for a professional shoot if my life dependent on it.
Jammed or what?
Where can I buy this great filter?
Variable ND is done with polarizer and the circular polarizer is probably to cancel it out because reflections aren't circularly polarized
Man i can feel the warm God rays in first sample video
Beautiful 😍
Plz make the same glass 👓 is good for eyes
Hey, quick note. A circular polarizer does not work on metal. If there is a paint on it than it will work but pure metal not.
Yeah I know, that's why I've added it in the pinned comment 😉 but yeah, I meant things like cars (painted) for which polarizers are often used.
If a VND is basically 2 polarisers, how does a third polarisers not interfere with that? Because we know when you use a third one, that's how light works, it messes with the configuration of the first two.
May I ask u ,,,so I want my first camera,,,I love all the different settings like iso and shutter,EV and etc,,,what camera should be my first???❤️🔥
I prefer a nd over variable any day 😮
Can you put k&f magnetic lens cao over these filter? If so, same size as the filter model thread or bigger?
I have an ND filter that is also a black mist filter. I really like it!
How much distortion does it cause ? Would love see a @TonyAndChelsea style review of this.
I want these for my prescription glasses
😅
That scene with the couple walking, for the ND example is El Malecon in the Dominican Republic, right?
Yup, Santo Domingo 🇩🇴😎
I like the usability, but ig clarity goes down ?
Cool bro 🤘🏻
This is the best lens filter anyone could ask for
Back in the days as kids we do that with 2 polaroid shades, was wondering it's future applications....
Will this fit in Sony Alpha
im filming a TV would this work to reduce reflected light to see the tv image better
Do they make one for the galaxy S21?
What's the difference between the regular and pro version?
Nice!! :) which filter is that? They have a bunch on their website
Soo and cinebloom with ND variable 2-1?
I miss videography. My camera was stolen along with my equipment and I never replaced it after that. That day really sucked
Sorry for your loss, i'm sure that you'll get back on grind doing what you love and enjoying it , good vibes only : ) Remember everything happens for a reason😉 (consider it a sign)
Does it work for Sony zv1 OG?😊
What is this lenses called?
Aren’t variable NDs made using two polarizers?
At the price of 4 good filters... just put your normal CPL over a standard variable ND and you're done.
To me using this combo is changing colours, maybe it's because it cheap CPL but without VND it doesn't shift colours.
@@liscvideo you have to try it the other way around, cpl and then nd Filter on it
@@nenadradosavljevic439 will try that, I think I've read somewhere on the Internet that it should be cpl closer to the lens but I'll try other way around
@@liscvideo maybe it's the vnd then.
Makes no sense to add a CPL to a variable ND. A variable ND is just 2 CPLs stacked. You can match a CPL to normal ND tho
Oooh K&F ? My go-to brand ❤❤❤
Do you need a matte box if you have a nd filter?
K&F have an issue getting stuck so be careful tightening them
Can’t imagine how much that filter costs. My polarizer costed $140 alone
450 bucks 😭
Cost*
@@itsTyrion ye camera stuff all costs a fortune
@@awesomebydefault3877 nd filters and polarisers are super over priced though, you can get amazing lenses for 1000 dollars and really good ones for 500+ which have precision curved glass elements, circuit boards, computers, motors and precision moving aperture blades. But somehow a filter which is just a straight bit of mass manufactured glass with a filter plastic film glued to it costs 450.
@@definingslawek4731 camera stuff are monopolized AF hence why
Same companies that made ink for printers which are also super overpriced (this by itself got many scandales behind it like how they made many ink cartridges stop working earlier than they should on purpose)
And yes I’m mainly talking about canon
i made a diy version of this years ago from 2 polarized filters!
Does it add a green tint??
I'm pretty sure a variable ND is just two circular polarizers stacked on each other.
This is amazing
which one would fit 16-35 sony lens?
Can I use it on my Nikon coolpix p1000?
Dude, that’s so cool I’ve been researching cameras to buy and I’m definitely adding this to List think of all the money he would save and it’s under $100 depending on your size
Why don’t you make it for 95mm?
This could be a great lens for a sony a7s iii ? Many thanks !
can it be used in any brand of camera?
Most variable nd filters are made of two polarisers
if they add 1/4 pro mist it would be perfect
I have KF B series VND (30 bucks) and it has the polarizer too.
When you turn the whole ND (not the ring) it removes reflections.
But Pssst!
Yep, every VND does that because a VND is basically two polarizers rotating on top of each other 😉 but I tested it and the effect with the VNDs I have is less strong.
Beautifully executed camera very Leica like, I had both G4 and G5 boy did they suck 😂 today’s flip phones sold at kosher stores of borough park produce better quality images
Seems neat
Is there any product like that,
That you can attach to your phone?
Having polarized glasses and turning your head side to side can be trippy sometimes. And also annoying because it makes your phone screen disappear at certain angles
Could you add model and name this filter?
Aren't VNDs just two polarisers?
That's incredible
Is there something like this for your phone?
Waiting for Sony to remake the new Xperia 1 mk. V into a next generation of Xperia Pro and stick one of those on the main camera with electronic controls for it. Seems like something they'd do.
Been thinking about getting a polarizer for some time now.
What is the name of this specific filter?
Perfect I can finally get good pics of my crush through the windows!