Dude, I must have been playing this game for over a year. And never really felt I had the vibes to push for an Infinite. But consistently was able to slowly finish the seasons at a bit higher rank. The last season having me at around the rank 80. With this season's early madness of Hela and Lockjaw power slam and discard combo decks, I was able to break 90. And today it finally manifested. I was really bummed out about the nerfs in the last OTA, since I had started leaning heavily into Hela and Lockjaw, and had backup decks with Darkhawk. I had resolved myself to yet again finish short of Infinite at the end of this season. Until, I was pretty much throwing out anything that stuck on the board after the day after the OTA. With some luck, and the first Proxima Midnight deck you showcase here, I was able to break through to Infinite! Thank you for everything you do for us. You are the hero we didn't ask, but the hero we needed. Good vibes only.
iVE HAD AN IDEA, WHAT ABOUT A 6 COST 9 power card (or something similar) that comes back to your hand on turn 6 if you've discarded it earlier ? Couldn't it help discard as a dependable archetype ? I've had this in my head for some time and idk i thought maybe it could actually do exactly what chavez did, more or less, but only for discard ! No ?
Alex, I would like to thank you for your videos and deck tips, I finally won a infinite conquest for the first time with your Zabu Ray Bill and I love it
Hela isn't reliable. She often gets discarded and is useless, or you don't draw her. She's only good in certain situations. Proxima Midnight seems like a reliable discard for buffs to cards AND adding it back too
I have Hela and Proxima in the same deck. Why replace one with the other when they both have their uses? Plus discard is just a fun deck with leveling up Morbius and Apocalypse and other things. Hela isn't reliable but she's fun in the 1/10 she's drawn and not discarded early and actually works at least 😂
I think shes okay. Probably not worth 6k tokens, but she does make sense in discard dracula and ive been using her in zoo with strong man and hit monkey. It makes for some fun burst out of nowhere after you set up with black swan and discard her with gambit or blade
I personally don't understand why people liked the old Chavez so much when she felt useless to me. Not enough power or a special ability compared to other 6 cost cards, and one like Hulk works a lot better for just a basic 6 cost with power and no ability. At least now Chavez actually has a use, although I still have never used her lol. I guess that's just not my playstyle and I want specific cards lol
Mailbag: Keep up the great work, this is my favourite TH-cam video every week!! Idea for Discard - Bullseye (2 Cost, 2 Power) Ongoing… “All random discards can be targeted”. I think this would be fire!! Benefits Hell Cow, Gambit, Corvus Glaive, Sword Master & Moon Knight. It would not impact Lady Sif, Coleen Wing, Blade & Silver Samurai. Alternatively, just give this ability to Sword Master to make him relevant. What do you think?
I like proxima I been doing way more then 50% im using bynx deck witch is a turn 6 modoc and leach turn 5 its been awesome for me I think its going to sound crazy but Corvus glaive and proxima dont belong together! Corvus works great in hella so just play black cat instead of proxima, and you dont need Corvus in a midrange discard deck the extra power plus the randomness is unnecessary
Once again, like Corvus proved in ramp, I think everyone is trying to shoehorn the spotlight into strict discard. I’ve been having success in my ladder pocket with a moongirl proxima modok line…with Daken and killmonger ..but that’s the only discard the deck runs.
I actually have a hybrid build of Proxima that is a really solid midrange deck. No it's not going to beat Hela but I was running an 80%+ win rate with it
Haven't used it yet, but I replaced Black Cat with Proxima. The reason being that if you discard Hela, you just won't get BC. Gonna try it in that and see if Proxima gets some usage! Edit 1: Honestly, I can't tell you how it works. Played around 10 games of conquest and everything targeted Hela; Corvus, Blade, Sif (if Death isn't around or they all get Waved), Lockjaw when I don't need her, fucking Sokovia. Proxima saw maybe three/four games worth of use and one was discarded, lmao. Can't even use BC cause Hela would die first.
Considering I have yet to even see her used, I’d say not worth it for sure. Both her and CG came in weaker than I anticipated but I also didn’t see the Thanos and Hela decks being so OP. Thanks again for the drops Alex, or should I say JP! That dude is a trip. Pulls out the randomest decks. 😅
I love discard but if you looking to seriously rank up it is not the deck unfortunately. Ever since I got black knight in that spotlight a while back it hard for me to play OG discard.
@@MyCab007 short of the 2 main decks currently, it's about as strong as the rest. Keeps up with destroy and plays well into most other matchups that don't involve Lockjaw bs. Besides, not everything needs to be "for serious ranking up." There is space for B tier decks.
I watched a good amount of her gameplay yesterday, it’s a pass for me, I’ll get her in her next spotlight. I don’t think I’ll miss anything til then. I’m all in in Pixie, and I’m due some bad luck. Pulled my last several spotlights with one or two keys.
Is Proxima a good card for Discard?Yes. Is she broken/busted and will she change the meta like Blob?No. This also means that she will not get nerfed. There is a chance she gets buffed to 4 8 for example like we saw with Hellcow. Cards like Proxima, are the ones you can safely invest resources(if you enjoy Discard), not fearing the card gets nerfed 1 2 patches/OTA later on.
Black cat is 2 points better in hela then proxima is for standard discard. Never thought of the day black cat is a solid card but it’s better then midnight in their own respective decks enough said
I wouldn’t say Proxima is a bad card, I mean it’s a free 7 power whenever you draw it but the real issue is dependable discard in general. It still isn’t reliable which is pretty ironic but it’s the truth. I feel like you either get lucky and draw the cards needed on curve and then the deck feels awesome or u don’t draw them when you need it and then it starts to feel rlly bad.
Spent 4 spotlight caches to get her, and two weeks ago I had the same bad luck... Im just going to spend tokens on new cards for the next cards I want because I have no luck and caches take for fucking ever to get more.
i played her all night long and i can see her potential and she will be good in the future but right now in this meta she sucks. Every single time i faced the meta dominating destroy and hella decks they won. Not a single deck with proxima could compete in the reliability and power those decks could put out so reliable. But i guess after the next ota that will hopefully nerf destroy and hella she will shine
Proxima midnight and corvus are completely passable cards.. I use 2 accounts daily for snap and between the 2 accounts, I've only gotten proxima midnight on 1 and didn't get Corvus or either. I use hell cow for Corvus if need be, I almost never need that extra 1 energy, Id rather have 3 more power with hellcow
Have you heard the legend of 'Corvus the Discarder' and 'Proxima the Discarded'? It's not a tale the Second Dinner would tell you. Once upon a time, Discard was forgotten. But then came Corvus Glaive. He and his buddy Electro teamed up to discard big bodacious cards. But soon after arrived Proxima Midnight. Once Corvus *discarded* her, he could never stop. Sometimes he would accidentally discard Hela and that would make Proxima angry. But Corvus was always sorry for that. He becomes too high on energy everytime he visits Kama-Taj with Electro. So he would be unable to differentiate between Hela and Proxima since they both have thorn-like helmets and both have *Discardable Features* . But Proxima loves him as much as he loves her. So she forgave his past mistakes. Corvus loves *discarding* Proxima and Proxima loves being discarded by Corvus. This power couple *discarded* all over marvel snap. They discarded on the faces of Thanos meta-slaves, making them cry like toddlers. They even *discarded* on famous snap content creators. They brought new life to the *Discard* genre. They *discarded* so hard that even Morbius said, "It's discardin' time." They became the new and true power couple of marvel. Everyone was in awe of their *discarding* capabilities.
Hela needs a card text change. She should only load up 1 location, or absorb the power of the discarded cards. But cheating out 30+power that can spread into any lane is a problem. How was Blob nerfed and this abomination is still a thing?
Because you just play Blob for a guaranteed 30 power in one lane, for Hela you need setup that also often risks discarding Hela herself and then you still have the RNG of the spawned cards. They are not comparable in the slightest. Hela is unchanged since forever and now people cry because the meta finally makes her not shit. Pathetic really.
@@deliro8758 are you serious?.. here are SOME ways to deal with blob, you can Shang it and cosmo it and shadow king it and Valkyrie it and you can leech it…. You can also give up that single lane and win the game. You can only really cosmo or leech Hela, which is way harder to do cause she can go anywhere and win any lane. I understand you need to “not discard her” but even if you do you can ghost rider her back. Or just blade 1 card with 14-20 power with almost 0 risk and have a 20-26 power play on 6 that can get in stormed lanes. She is a card that should NEVER be a top card in the meta, because she invalidates dozens of other decks when she is, and can’t really be teched against.
People act like the Hela/destory Meta is really bad but I can think of way worse metas. Blob thanos was worse, Marvel Lovkdown with Alioth was very boring, hell even Darkhawk metas are pretty stale when your playing against a lot of Darkhawk and Annihilus, Loki meta was a pain but at least it was fun. Hela/destory meta isn’t new and doesn’t feel bad to play against in my opinion because rng plays into Hela a lot. I’ve lost a lot of games because my big power cards all stack in 1 lane or just don’t go where I need them to go.
I feel like Proxima isn't a Hela card. I don't think it's fair to compare it to a Hela deck because you can do that with other decks. Why play *blank* when you can play Hela or Thanos.
You can't convince me Proxima doesn't belong in Hela discard or Black Knight Discard. No way, lol. A card like this is a staple. I don't need twenty power slamming into Death's Domain if 7 power will do. But what do I know. I'm trash at playing discard anyways. Oh, live video still needs the slide in. 😂
Discard feels so incredibly oppresive right now You either have to get luckier than them running the mirror, or run destro to try to out greed them The meta feels terrible right now, lost 5 ranks today to nothing but disco and an occassional shenaut
Im super confused, some people said that Proxima is amazing and now I hear that "sucks", at the end of the day I supposed that you get what you want/like right? Thank you for the video.
19:04… definitely did NOT expect to see a wild Punisher appear.. and DEFINITELY not a 29 point one lol
Dude, I must have been playing this game for over a year. And never really felt I had the vibes to push for an Infinite. But consistently was able to slowly finish the seasons at a bit higher rank. The last season having me at around the rank 80.
With this season's early madness of Hela and Lockjaw power slam and discard combo decks, I was able to break 90. And today it finally manifested.
I was really bummed out about the nerfs in the last OTA, since I had started leaning heavily into Hela and Lockjaw, and had backup decks with Darkhawk. I had resolved myself to yet again finish short of Infinite at the end of this season.
Until, I was pretty much throwing out anything that stuck on the board after the day after the OTA. With some luck, and the first Proxima Midnight deck you showcase here, I was able to break through to Infinite!
Thank you for everything you do for us. You are the hero we didn't ask, but the hero we needed. Good vibes only.
"I got punisherd!" made me laugh so hard
Hela wont be dominant forever. The meta will change. I dont play Discard, but i grabbed her for deck building options in the future. Only took 1 key.
Nice sniping skills 👌
iVE HAD AN IDEA, WHAT ABOUT A 6 COST 9 power card (or something similar) that comes back to your hand on turn 6 if you've discarded it earlier ? Couldn't it help discard as a dependable archetype ? I've had this in my head for some time and idk i thought maybe it could actually do exactly what chavez did, more or less, but only for discard ! No ?
Thanks for the video and the information. That 29 power Punisher was wild.
Yes it was lol
Heck yeah. Back with another honest review! Thanks, AC!
Alex, I would like to thank you for your videos and deck tips, I finally won a infinite conquest for the first time with your Zabu Ray Bill and I love it
Hela isn't reliable. She often gets discarded and is useless, or you don't draw her. She's only good in certain situations. Proxima Midnight seems like a reliable discard for buffs to cards AND adding it back too
Thank you for all your hard work in getting me pixel Quinjet...
Yeah, I'm just happy you're seriously entertaining. 👊 😊
I got proxima first cache, should I keep going for Modok?
Certainly, Modok is the key to fun with discard:) Wong, morbius, collector and swarm in your hand, enjoy
Yes. No point in even having Proxima without MODOK. I'm an avid discard player btw
Modok is hands down one of the best cards in the game. Where he goes there are zero replacements for him.
If you don't have modok this is the modok week and not the proxima week
Thanks I got Modok too bad it took me till my 4th cache
I have Hela and Proxima in the same deck. Why replace one with the other when they both have their uses? Plus discard is just a fun deck with leveling up Morbius and Apocalypse and other things. Hela isn't reliable but she's fun in the 1/10 she's drawn and not discarded early and actually works at least 😂
I think shes okay. Probably not worth 6k tokens, but she does make sense in discard dracula and ive been using her in zoo with strong man and hit monkey. It makes for some fun burst out of nowhere after you set up with black swan and discard her with gambit or blade
I personally don't understand why people liked the old Chavez so much when she felt useless to me. Not enough power or a special ability compared to other 6 cost cards, and one like Hulk works a lot better for just a basic 6 cost with power and no ability. At least now Chavez actually has a use, although I still have never used her lol. I guess that's just not my playstyle and I want specific cards lol
Because it enables combos. How anyone can play this game for more than an hour and not understand that is amazing to me.
I'm having a lot of success even vs Hela with a Double Daken deck that includes Ravonna/Corvus/Proxima. It's more of a Conquest deck though.
I been trying to get Proxima to fit in some crazy decks but this video just shows that regular discard is fun enough and even better with this in it
Snap has so many different crazy cards, it's such a shame that reliable decks are that much better and mostly everyone play the same ones !
Mailbag: Keep up the great work, this is my favourite TH-cam video every week!! Idea for Discard - Bullseye (2 Cost, 2 Power) Ongoing… “All random discards can be targeted”. I think this would be fire!! Benefits Hell Cow, Gambit, Corvus Glaive, Sword Master & Moon Knight. It would not impact Lady Sif, Coleen Wing, Blade & Silver Samurai. Alternatively, just give this ability to Sword Master to make him relevant. What do you think?
Got to the 5th match in conquest with good proxima plays and lost. Good card I’d say for discard
Good to see you rocking the stripes again Alex
Honestly, such an honest Canadian 🇨🇦
Love from Vancouver! ❤
I like proxima I been doing way more then 50% im using bynx deck witch is a turn 6 modoc and leach turn 5 its been awesome for me I think its going to sound crazy but Corvus glaive and proxima dont belong together! Corvus works great in hella so just play black cat instead of proxima, and you dont need Corvus in a midrange discard deck the extra power plus the randomness is unnecessary
Once again, like Corvus proved in ramp, I think everyone is trying to shoehorn the spotlight into strict discard. I’ve been having success in my ladder pocket with a moongirl proxima modok line…with Daken and killmonger ..but that’s the only discard the deck runs.
ALEX THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STREAMING I GOT PIXEL AGATHA FROM MY DROPS!!!!!
Thanks for the drops Alex!
I actually have a hybrid build of Proxima that is a really solid midrange deck. No it's not going to beat Hela but I was running an 80%+ win rate with it
?? 80% lmao
Haven't used it yet, but I replaced Black Cat with Proxima. The reason being that if you discard Hela, you just won't get BC.
Gonna try it in that and see if Proxima gets some usage!
Edit 1: Honestly, I can't tell you how it works. Played around 10 games of conquest and everything targeted Hela; Corvus, Blade, Sif (if Death isn't around or they all get Waved), Lockjaw when I don't need her, fucking Sokovia. Proxima saw maybe three/four games worth of use and one was discarded, lmao. Can't even use BC cause Hela would die first.
You mentioned in the intro a link to your twitch stream in the description but i couldn't find it? =(
Considering I have yet to even see her used, I’d say not worth it for sure. Both her and CG came in weaker than I anticipated but I also didn’t see the Thanos and Hela decks being so OP.
Thanks again for the drops Alex, or should I say JP! That dude is a trip. Pulls out the randomest decks. 😅
The problem is the whole archetype in which proxima is played itself... it's not enough power or doesn't have a defence to combat such power...
i love me some discard so I will try to get her!
I was there for the review live
I could see proxima being useful in a discard destroy deck, but then you might as well just play pure destroy or hela
Absolutely agree, why would you ever play Proxima when Hela does her job better, fantastic vid Alex.
Because discard is funner and solid in its own right?
@@SilverInThePitchBlackI don’t think so. Not right now at least
@@aidensimpson4427 Try it. Short of the 2 titans, it can keep up. I especially like the JimmyDickins Collector Heli version, but others are okay too.
I love discard but if you looking to seriously rank up it is not the deck unfortunately. Ever since I got black knight in that spotlight a while back it hard for me to play OG discard.
@@MyCab007 short of the 2 main decks currently, it's about as strong as the rest. Keeps up with destroy and plays well into most other matchups that don't involve Lockjaw bs. Besides, not everything needs to be "for serious ranking up." There is space for B tier decks.
You're as low on Prox as Cozy is high! For me, she feels like a slightly better Black Cat. Isn't going to define a deck. But it might help it.
I thinks she’s a better Wolverine for discard. Wolverine is basically a free 2/4 in discard and Midnight is a free 4/7.
I watched a good amount of her gameplay yesterday, it’s a pass for me, I’ll get her in her next spotlight. I don’t think I’ll miss anything til then. I’m all in in Pixie, and I’m due some bad luck. Pulled my last several spotlights with one or two keys.
Thanks for the twitch drops! I got pixel btw, RIP xD
Is Proxima a good card for Discard?Yes.
Is she broken/busted and will she change the meta like Blob?No.
This also means that she will not get nerfed. There is a chance she gets buffed to 4 8 for example like we saw with Hellcow.
Cards like Proxima, are the ones you can safely invest resources(if you enjoy Discard), not fearing the card gets nerfed 1 2 patches/OTA later on.
Black cat is 2 points better in hela then proxima is for standard discard. Never thought of the day black cat is a solid card but it’s better then midnight in their own respective decks enough said
What ist the Song called at 12:40 ? :o
I wouldn’t say Proxima is a bad card, I mean it’s a free 7 power whenever you draw it but the real issue is dependable discard in general. It still isn’t reliable which is pretty ironic but it’s the truth. I feel like you either get lucky and draw the cards needed on curve and then the deck feels awesome or u don’t draw them when you need it and then it starts to feel rlly bad.
Try the collector heli versions
Spent 4 spotlight caches to get her, and two weeks ago I had the same bad luck... Im just going to spend tokens on new cards for the next cards I want because I have no luck and caches take for fucking ever to get more.
i played her all night long and i can see her potential and she will be good in the future but right now in this meta she sucks. Every single time i faced the meta dominating destroy and hella decks they won. Not a single deck with proxima could compete in the reliability and power those decks could put out so reliable.
But i guess after the next ota that will hopefully nerf destroy and hella she will shine
That Punisher holy hell
Was watching live on twitch, why did you cut the slide? Tut tut! 😂
Great video as always. Can someone tell me why that Negasonic at the end looks so Goofy lol
That was a world record sized Punisher, right??
I prefer traditional Mobius Discard, and I like Proxima
Proxima midnight and corvus are completely passable cards.. I use 2 accounts daily for snap and between the 2 accounts, I've only gotten proxima midnight on 1 and didn't get Corvus or either. I use hell cow for Corvus if need be, I almost never need that extra 1 energy, Id rather have 3 more power with hellcow
A 29 power Punisher??? 😂
You're burying the lead, Alex! That's the new deck!
can we get updated deck for pool 3 guides are too much out dated
Alex, you speak to my stat geek heart.
Im betting there will be a Hela nerf in the near future for balance
never seen a punisher this huge
"Damn, I gotta put PANTS on!" - Alex Coccia, 2024
Have you heard the legend of 'Corvus the Discarder' and 'Proxima the Discarded'? It's not a tale the Second Dinner would tell you.
Once upon a time, Discard was forgotten. But then came Corvus Glaive. He and his buddy Electro teamed up to discard big bodacious cards. But soon after arrived Proxima Midnight. Once Corvus *discarded* her, he could never stop. Sometimes he would accidentally discard Hela and that would make Proxima angry. But Corvus was always sorry for that. He becomes too high on energy everytime he visits Kama-Taj with Electro. So he would be unable to differentiate between Hela and Proxima since they both have thorn-like helmets and both have *Discardable Features* . But Proxima loves him as much as he loves her. So she forgave his past mistakes. Corvus loves *discarding* Proxima and Proxima loves being discarded by Corvus. This power couple *discarded* all over marvel snap. They discarded on the faces of Thanos meta-slaves, making them cry like toddlers. They even *discarded* on famous snap content creators. They brought new life to the *Discard* genre. They *discarded* so hard that even Morbius said, "It's discardin' time." They became the new and true power couple of marvel. Everyone was in awe of their *discarding* capabilities.
How is supergiant not more relevant? Is it because it's one card out of 12 to stop people's turn five trick?
Hela needs a card text change. She should only load up 1 location, or absorb the power of the discarded cards. But cheating out 30+power that can spread into any lane is a problem.
How was Blob nerfed and this abomination is still a thing?
Because you just play Blob for a guaranteed 30 power in one lane, for Hela you need setup that also often risks discarding Hela herself and then you still have the RNG of the spawned cards. They are not comparable in the slightest.
Hela is unchanged since forever and now people cry because the meta finally makes her not shit. Pathetic really.
@@deliro8758 are you serious?.. here are SOME ways to deal with blob, you can Shang it and cosmo it and shadow king it and Valkyrie it and you can leech it…. You can also give up that single lane and win the game.
You can only really cosmo or leech Hela, which is way harder to do cause she can go anywhere and win any lane. I understand you need to “not discard her” but even if you do you can ghost rider her back. Or just blade 1 card with 14-20 power with almost 0 risk and have a 20-26 power play on 6 that can get in stormed lanes.
She is a card that should NEVER be a top card in the meta, because she invalidates dozens of other decks when she is, and can’t really be teched against.
People act like the Hela/destory Meta is really bad but I can think of way worse metas. Blob thanos was worse, Marvel Lovkdown with Alioth was very boring, hell even Darkhawk metas are pretty stale when your playing against a lot of Darkhawk and Annihilus, Loki meta was a pain but at least it was fun. Hela/destory meta isn’t new and doesn’t feel bad to play against in my opinion because rng plays into Hela a lot. I’ve lost a lot of games because my big power cards all stack in 1 lane or just don’t go where I need them to go.
Proxima should not be a series 5 card at all. She’s ok but there’s absolutely no need to have her for what she does.
I feel like Proxima isn't a Hela card. I don't think it's fair to compare it to a Hela deck because you can do that with other decks. Why play *blank* when you can play Hela or Thanos.
You can't convince me Proxima doesn't belong in Hela discard or Black Knight Discard. No way, lol. A card like this is a staple. I don't need twenty power slamming into Death's Domain if 7 power will do. But what do I know. I'm trash at playing discard anyways. Oh, live video still needs the slide in. 😂
i think shes good but not the end of the world if you dont get her
Talking about Hela like that is a discard deck seems quite wrong.
She seems like she’ll find a place and be good, but being someone who didn’t get Corvis or Miek it becomes a skip for me.
I see this video late. Just spent 3 caches for Daken and her
Why would you do that?
Why rush?
Im stupid, lol
Pretty disappointing. I was going to buy with tokens, so i’ll just hold off and see how Proxima does longer term.
Discard feels so incredibly oppresive right now
You either have to get luckier than them running the mirror, or run destro to try to out greed them
The meta feels terrible right now, lost 5 ranks today to nothing but disco and an occassional shenaut
I'm so over hela and destroy.. almost every game is one of those two
Im super confused, some people said that Proxima is amazing and now I hear that "sucks", at the end of the day I supposed that you get what you want/like right?
Thank you for the video.
Never trust people who speak in absolutes
She isn't that good, we can beat her easily
Obviously still early but she seems kinda mid so far.
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I dis dis card 🫥
It’s a good day to be a discard hater