I love the guys that say I can get a whole set up w install 2500. I like how Mike approaches it. Looks like Mike is trying to make each build as bullet proof as possible. He’s setting you up for success. I like it.
INJECTORS NEED TO BE ON THE LIST !!! 117 with that cam and 55mm.. Gonna be leaning on those 4.3s or whatever are in there from factory .. same ones that been in the bikes since the 88 twin cam and u gonna make 2x that much hp
Will definitely need injectors if your over 120hp. The stock 4.38g injectors will be at 95% duty cycle at 120 hp. That setup will more then likely be soft until 3-35k rpm then come on hard. Se 1275n springs will hold the torque if you start to see it slip above 130ftlbs. Should be a ripper. Ride safe.
I'm surprised you not doing the Fueling rocker arm shafts and shims. You going to have all apart. Now be good time to powder coat the lower rockers, push rod spring coverts a color that matches your bike and black powder coat the tappet covers.
On a thrashin episode with fueling when t 11:40 hey upgrade Juan 107 they were saying to stick with the Harley tappet covers for some reason if I’m not mistaken
I went the same route but leaning more towards S&S parts, and I went with 30/30 cam as per recommended by the guru of fast, George Bryce, pay attention by not just the numbers but when you want the power to come on suited to your riding style, they all sound extremely cool!!
Just had my 2021 114 LRS with CR483 and SPC Big Bore tuned last week. Came out at 125hp/134tq. Holds flat right around 120 ft lbs until 3500 rpm and just takes off. Love it and it fits my riding style perfectly for the twisties. Great peak numbers for a 114 as well imo. You'll enjoy it.
My feuling HP+ lifters and fuel moto adjustable rods are really quiet. I done my stg 2 at 900 miles and I kept stock plate and oil pump also had the upgraded cam bearing as well from HD
I watched the video with great interest and noticed that the new intake manifold was not included in the list of total pricing. Great info and food for thought for future upgrades of my M8
Hey bro, I got the same setup on my bike 2021 FXLRS 114, CR483 cam, S&S lifters,adj pushrods,oil plate and pump, Screaming Eagle 55mm intake manifold and 5.5g injectors, SP Concepts Big Bore exhaust and V&H VO2 Falcon intake. Tuned with Powervision by Jiffytune out here in Elsinore, CA. 125hp/134tq. Installed at 15k on the odometer currently at 37k and still running strong!!
next time you talk to Mike ask him if he recomends the fueling rocker breathers being that they are plastic from the factory,just wondering cause I noticed that he has not done it on your bike,or holy shifts bike,anyway,keep up the good work,love the channel
Don’t need the S&S oil pump and cam plate. The new designed Harley version is better and more forgiving with run off. Do the in er cam bearing, lifters, push rods, intake manifold and compensator cam and call it a day. Obviously exhaust and intake as final pieces. Done
If you buy a throttle body. Go big. No point of keeping it the same size. Don't want to have to buy it twice down the road. S&s pump and plate are not needed.
are you doing bigger injectors? also recommend aftermarket compensator ramp and 1275 screaming eagle clutch springs, the bike will be a best😎 my numbers guess is 125hp with 135lbs of torque👌
Clutch springs and comp ramp definitely aren't needed for a stage two. I would save that for big bores. There are quite a few things he is adding that are more of a nice to have. Harley doesn't have incompetent engineers who don't build for longevity. Things like metal manifolds, Aftermarket tappets covers, S&S oil pump, S&S cam plate are more trendy than required on the new 2020 and up Harleys. We drive vehicles every single day with "plastic" and OEM car parts made in China and we aren't running to swap them out.
Dope kit!!! I have almost the same in my low rider S only difference is I went with the star racing 3030. You should definitely check out bamco and switch all your bolts over to ARP shit would look dope on that bike… I need to head to north jersey and check out this shop and get my top end some upgrades…
I paid 1900$ to get a se stage 2 cam installed. That included the cam kit, black tappet covers, and labor installed at my local harley dealer. 2022 Low rider st 117.
I was talking to the guys at moonshine horsepower about doing my stage 2 with a CR 483 on my fxlrst. They were pushing real hard for me to upgrade the throttle body to the screaming eagle 64mm with their ported 66mm manifold & at least 5.5 injectors too. They said these m8's really love a lot of air. Ask Mike what he thinks about going that big with the throttle body on a stage 2. I just wonder if theres any point to it with stock heads?
483 is the perfect cam for your ride Skip the SS pump and plate The 2020+ OEM is better .. ESPECIALLY if not doing the bottom end !!! 55mm intake for sure 5.5 injectors for sure
Yea, I’m on the fence. The speed limit is the speed limit. Torque, I kinda get, it can help you avoid trouble but, spending a ton of $$ on high-end? That 117 would be plenty for me.
22 low rider s stage 2 with 3030 CAM , S&S 55M MANIFOLD, S&S 2 IN 1 , S&S TEAR DROP CLEANER , 130 TQ , VERY PLEASED WITH PERFOMANCE , I JUST NEED TO REPLAICE THE REAR O2 SENSOR , WAITING FOR PART REPLAICEMENT
I love the guys that say I can get a whole set up w install 2500. I like how Mike approaches it. Looks like Mike is trying to make each build as bullet proof as possible. He’s setting you up for success. I like it.
INJECTORS NEED TO BE ON THE LIST !!!
117 with that cam and 55mm..
Gonna be leaning on those 4.3s or whatever are in there from factory .. same ones that been in the bikes since the 88 twin cam and u gonna make 2x that much hp
Will definitely need injectors if your over 120hp. The stock 4.38g injectors will be at 95% duty cycle at 120 hp. That setup will more then likely be soft until 3-35k rpm then come on hard. Se 1275n springs will hold the torque if you start to see it slip above 130ftlbs. Should be a ripper. Ride safe.
I'm surprised you not doing the Fueling rocker arm shafts and shims. You going to have all apart. Now be good time to powder coat the lower rockers, push rod spring coverts a color that matches your bike and black powder coat the tappet covers.
On a thrashin episode with fueling when t 11:40 hey upgrade Juan 107 they were saying to stick with the Harley tappet covers for some reason if I’m not mistaken
Fueling prefers the stock tappet cuffs in that episode as opposed to the metal S&S cuffs
Mike got a lot of knowledge and I’m looking to get my bike done as soon as I get my bike and also have some upgrade done to. Thank u for the info
I went the same route but leaning more towards S&S parts, and I went with 30/30 cam as per recommended by the guru of fast, George Bryce, pay attention by not just the numbers but when you want the power to come on suited to your riding style, they all sound extremely cool!!
Just had my 2021 114 LRS with CR483 and SPC Big Bore tuned last week. Came out at 125hp/134tq. Holds flat right around 120 ft lbs until 3500 rpm and just takes off. Love it and it fits my riding style perfectly for the twisties. Great peak numbers for a 114 as well imo. You'll enjoy it.
468RS+SnS ported 55m+hpi pipe=117hp,136tq. Super fun on a 2023 soft tail breakout117
My feuling HP+ lifters and fuel moto adjustable rods are really quiet. I done my stg 2 at 900 miles and I kept stock plate and oil pump also had the upgraded cam bearing as well from HD
Thanks for the heads up I will look into that,I wasnt aware S and S made them also,keep those videos coming I look forwaed to seeing it done
I watched the video with great interest and noticed that the new intake manifold was not included in the list of total pricing. Great info and food for thought for future upgrades of my M8
Hey bro, I got the same setup on my bike 2021 FXLRS 114, CR483 cam, S&S lifters,adj pushrods,oil plate and pump, Screaming Eagle 55mm intake manifold and 5.5g injectors, SP Concepts Big Bore exhaust and V&H VO2 Falcon intake. Tuned with Powervision by Jiffytune out here in Elsinore, CA. 125hp/134tq. Installed at 15k on the odometer currently at 37k and still running strong!!
How much was your tune?
@@WestCoastWeasel it was $450 but I had a powervision already and paid cash. If you need a PV license it’s extra
@@ItsEvilJohn not bad I’ll have to pay for a license because I only have a FP3
next time you talk to Mike ask him if he recomends the fueling rocker breathers being that they are plastic from the factory,just wondering cause I noticed that he has not done it on your bike,or holy shifts bike,anyway,keep up the good work,love the channel
We are doing those breathers on the bigger Ci builds. I just finished a 132 and used the S&S ones. They are nice too and cheaper than feuling
Looking forward to how this will come out. Great vid 🤙
Thanks 👍🏻
Don’t need the S&S oil pump and cam plate. The new designed Harley version is better and more forgiving with run off. Do the in er cam bearing, lifters, push rods, intake manifold and compensator cam and call it a day. Obviously exhaust and intake as final pieces. Done
Redesigned? When did they redesign it?
Harley redesigned the oil pump in 2020 on all m8 motors to address the known sumping issue.
@@RidingwithDRod yes I knew about the pump, I thought you meant the cam plate. Thanks.
If you buy a throttle body. Go big. No point of keeping it the same size. Don't want to have to buy it twice down the road. S&s pump and plate are not needed.
Where do you get money to do all this on so many bikes ? So fresh and so clean . Even the builder looks tore up .
I work hard
I would love to ask Mike what is his take on the SnS plates failing and having issues…. Looks like a great build, I would keep the oil pump tho.
Very. Good video. Ty for the info. Might have to use that mk87 discount
are you doing bigger injectors? also recommend aftermarket compensator ramp and 1275 screaming eagle clutch springs, the bike will be a best😎 my numbers guess is 125hp with 135lbs of torque👌
Clutch springs and comp ramp definitely aren't needed for a stage two. I would save that for big bores. There are quite a few things he is adding that are more of a nice to have. Harley doesn't have incompetent engineers who don't build for longevity. Things like metal manifolds, Aftermarket tappets covers, S&S oil pump, S&S cam plate are more trendy than required on the new 2020 and up Harleys. We drive vehicles every single day with "plastic" and OEM car parts made in China and we aren't running to swap them out.
A stage 2 will always be between 3K - 4K in my opinion just depends on the parts. Look forward to seeing the numbers on the Cyclerama cam💯
It is. If you are not adding the trans top cover, A/C and intake manifold. His choice
@@TorqueCustomCyclesand add in 1500 for a good pipe
Where's that pretty rare White & Blue Dyna Low Rider?? That thing was gorgeous!
Im going to Mike soon.
I used the MK87 code and got a complimentary hookah while i waited for my cam job
Dope kit!!! I have almost the same in my low rider S only difference is I went with the star racing 3030. You should definitely check out bamco and switch all your bolts over to ARP shit would look dope on that bike… I need to head to north jersey and check out this shop and get my top end some upgrades…
Bamco is awesome
Star 3030!!!!!!
Hey how are ya! You mentioned 24 to25 hundred for parts but what was the labor cost of this job including the dyno service? Thanks!
Where did you purchase the hat lol great video by the way!
I paid 1900$ to get a se stage 2 cam installed. That included the cam kit, black tappet covers, and labor installed at my local harley dealer. 2022 Low rider st 117.
Heavy duty clutch springs like some others have said. $30 dollar upgrade so clutch don’t slip.
Just curious why’d you or Mike went with the Revolution Performance brand manifold intake instead of other brands? Thanks in advance.
They make great stuff 👍🏽
I was talking to the guys at moonshine horsepower about doing my stage 2 with a CR 483 on my fxlrst. They were pushing real hard for me to upgrade the throttle body to the screaming eagle 64mm with their ported 66mm manifold & at least 5.5 injectors too. They said these m8's really love a lot of air. Ask Mike what he thinks about going that big with the throttle body on a stage 2. I just wonder if theres any point to it with stock heads?
483 is the perfect cam for your ride
Skip the SS pump and plate
The 2020+ OEM is better .. ESPECIALLY if not doing the bottom end !!!
55mm intake for sure
5.5 injectors for sure
Yea, I’m on the fence. The speed limit is the speed limit. Torque, I kinda get, it can help you avoid trouble but, spending a ton of $$ on high-end? That 117 would be plenty for me.
I have a 2024 fxlrst also, maybe after a few years id do this to spuce things up. The m8117 is powerful as it is
You're lucky to have a shop like Mike's in your area. Also, what year is the Norton?
1969
S&S fuel pump maybe has reliability issues..
Some mechanics...post it at youtube...
Star 3030 is one of the best overall cams outhere...
22 low rider s stage 2 with 3030 CAM , S&S 55M MANIFOLD, S&S 2 IN 1 , S&S TEAR DROP CLEANER , 130 TQ , VERY PLEASED WITH PERFOMANCE , I JUST NEED TO REPLAICE THE REAR O2 SENSOR , WAITING FOR PART REPLAICEMENT
I want that hat!
Where did you get that King of the Baggers hat from?
S&S sells an entire camchest kit without a cam now...just FYI.....idk if it's cheaper or not than ordering everything separate but just so ya know
We are aware. But that kit comes with adjustable pushrods and S&S tappets. Their tappets are very noisy and we are doing solid pushrods
Where can we get the list at ?
Yerrrr🍻
Did i miss a comp ramp ?
Does Torque Cycles warranty their work ,??
Yes we do. 1 year parts and labor.
@@TorqueCustomCycles
Excellent 👍
I hope he gets you better #'s than what he done on Sandy's lrst... you'll enjoy that 483
Wow 5 grand for stage 2
that's for a proper stage 2 with future reliability upgrades
Also, that’s not including exhaust
keep em stock , They last longer plus more coin in tha bank 🏦
But I like hearing that lope
Why not just buy a Honda 😂
@@willyafgyes a cam is bare minimum
Bro you do not need all that gear for a cam swap. Wasting money here.
You can’t that idiot anything. Dyna bro can’t even check the oil level in his bike. That shop owner loves guys like him, easy money!