This is my repeated story: I came from South Africa and one onf the reasons why I came to Australia in 2008 was the constant black-outs in that country which has now reached "Stage 6-8". That is not a way to live and can cause depression. Crime increased, shops closed, cables are stollen, corruption sets in, urban decay is now very obvious, to name some aspects.Basking in the electricity for the last 15 years here in Australia is a privilege to me. Don't let Australia follow the example of South Africa. It's not good.
Well when all the reputable tunnel companies quotes were over 15 billion and you pick some random Italian company at 4 billion what did they think was going to happen
Isn't it obvious we are already paying for it whilst our word smiths try and distract with $350million referendums. $100mill spent on geo surveying and the good ol "she'll be right mate with a $150million dollar machine. Drillers earn quite a bit in the scheme of wages and with these two physical prices I've stated still doesn't come close to what our politicians spent on the voice. We need real Aussies running the country.
"Snowy 2.0 an ‘absolute disaster’".........................you might say the same of Malcolm Turnbull's entire Prime Ministership. The biggest show pony "renewables" project by the biggest show pony Prime Minister there ever was.
all solar installed before 2025 will be due for replacement by 2050 and all wind by 2035 / 2040 and then haha 22,000 panels a day each year after 20-25 year life span plus the same for the windmills - Oh and don't forget the batteries with 10 to 15 year life span
Hold the contractor and designers to account. I don't understand how we all complain about the spend but no one asks why these professionals have led us down this path, and what are their accountabilities?
There is no such thing as renewable energy. As we close the last few Australian coal fired power stations the Chinese have built hundreds. They’re needed to build all the solar panels and wind turbines we’re installing. They have a shelf life of twenty to thirty years. Then they will have to be dumped. How will we then meet our energy needs? There is no such thing as clean energy. Do the sums on all the waste created in mining, processing and smelting them, assembling and transporting them and then dumping them. We’re sleepwalking into a National Disaster. Once we’ve closed our coal and gas industries and our wind solar collapses we will be trapped in an energy dead fall spiral. Brought to you by the ALP/Teal/Green/Coalition.
Utter bullshit and propaganda. It's fine to have an opinion, but you are presenting myths as facts. Show many any independent, peer reviewed and verifiable science that supports your claim?
Unfortunately, no new information here, everything is already well known, so, why?? are we doing this? Interestingly, right now, in USA the US Senate is conducting reviews into the US domestic energy scenarios. While this is not an identical landscape, the economics and the technologies used are directly comparable. Some interesting revelations have been uncovered through questioning. On costs so far, there is is defined cost for the amount spent so far on green energy. On benefits so far, there are no defined benefits so far, just a net cost. Net zero is said to be achievable by 2050, cost for achieving it, is not known, it can be any unspecified amount. Frightening. On benefits for achieving net zero, no specific benefits are known or stated, even more frightening. Potentially $50 trillion spent by 2050, for no specific results or milestones along the way.? No wonder the green party are so enthusiastic to push the agenda, free cash money for everyone, forever. More interesting, a major wind farm, has been side lined, and looks scheduled to be replaced with modular nuclear plants (x3). Reasoning, 146000 acres for the wind farm, compared to 36 acres for modular nuclear. Energy output is the same, except the nuclear runs 24/7. More interesting, the modular nuclear solution, will cost a lot less than the monster wind farm, and will appear and become operatopnal more quickly. Flies in the face of what we are being told here, and we are never given any numbers for costings. The bottom line is summarized rather elegantly, . . . what we need, is "evidence based policy, not, policy based evidence". Clever summary.
Never let the LNP anywhere near a major project of any consequence, especially a renewable project. They have form in bungling any kind of initiative that requires thought and planning. Just look what they did to the NBN, the NDIS, defence procurement etc.
Going 6x over budget is horrible if the budget is $2 million but spend u $12 million even if its $50 million but u spend $300 million. Yet when the budget is $2 BILLION but spend $12 BILLION that is beyond horrible its ridiculous and incompetence especially when it seems like the project can't actually be completed or worse even possible.
Is that supposed to be an all Australian project? Would have thought they would consult with overseas people with who have got expertise on this kind of projects.
How badly is this government screwing up, both labour and liberal. They are completing screwing up the energy sectors. and they are screwing up the housing sector. Homelessness is increasing because there is not enough houses for families to live in, yet they keep pumping immigration and access to electricity is decreasing, every year during winter deaths increase with the elderly because they can't afford to heat their homes. What the hell, every decade it has gotten worse not better.
The concept is great, that job was awarded to a contractor with a disastrous record of delivering projects, and i dont mean Cloughs, i mean Salini, (WeBuild now),
WHY DO WE NEED A CHEAP ALTERNATIVE TO FOSSIL FUELS ? ALL SEEM TO AGREE THAT GAS IS A SOLUTION.JUST BECAUSE IT IS A HYRODOCARBON DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS CARBON FREE OR THAT IT IS NOT A FOSSIL FUEL. WE OURSELVES ARE ALL CARBON !
Check out Perovskite, new solar cell that is 260% greater than exists, which equates to 3,000 watts per home cell. Four or five cells will run a house in the day time. Sad for those invested in silicon cells. May take a year or so before available to consumers. Perovskite last longer than silicon and much, much cheaper, with plenty of its manufacturing minerals readily available. Zero to low toxicity.
45 seconds research AND Despite significant progress in understanding the stability and degradation of perovskite solar cells, they are not currently commercially viable because of their limited operational lifetimes. Useful idiots abound.
the labor teal greens party MUST close coal / fossil power - remember they passed a LAW - 43% CO2 reduction by 2030 - legal action will force the courts to enforce that cap from one of the many climate activist groups eg extinction rebellion
@@dilligaf8349 yeh nah - they would then have to admit that with trees cover already in Australia we are already at net zero - but so much more damage to be done by the marxists and greens
We are on the edge of a cliff some of us are standing facing the drop but our government is standing with there back to it that what they are saying all is good keep going
So what is the problem, the lights have not gone out, and there is an over abundance of coal power, solar is going along at gangbuster rates, Actually the amount of coal power is overabundant as is. And that is costing prices to stay high. Because power is being bumped and not going to the grid. Snowy 2 will come online when expected and when the situation arises. So be patient and not panic. There is no foresight in something that has not happened other than by weather events or accidental events so quit grizzling. We do not need accusations that can not be substantiated. You with this sort of nonsense leads to mental instability of younger persons that do not understand your propaganda.
This is my repeated story: I came from South Africa and one onf the reasons why I came to Australia in 2008 was the constant black-outs in that country which has now reached "Stage 6-8". That is not a way to live and can cause depression. Crime increased, shops closed, cables are stollen, corruption sets in, urban decay is now very obvious, to name some aspects.Basking in the electricity for the last 15 years here in Australia is a privilege to me. Don't let Australia follow the example of South Africa. It's not good.
Well when all the reputable tunnel companies quotes were over 15 billion and you pick some random Italian company at 4 billion what did they think was going to happen
Unfortunately our politicians are working for the wef not for us citizens
They are colluding with ridiculous and economically destructive popular delusions in order to garner the votes of the ignorant and ill informed.
100%
Ree Ree cookers reeeee!
@@MrRatclima I can't be bothered trying to explain the joke... Missing context
@@MrRatclima I've been told that lots of times... By the people who were cooked enough to keep taking boosters
Feel sorry for the next generations paying for this
Isn't it obvious we are already paying for it whilst our word smiths try and distract with $350million referendums.
$100mill spent on geo surveying and the good ol "she'll be right mate with a $150million dollar machine. Drillers earn quite a bit in the scheme of wages and with these two physical prices I've stated still doesn't come close to what our politicians spent on the voice. We need real Aussies running the country.
That's all very well but where were these experts at the beginning, when we really needed to hear from them.
Let Snowy 2.0 be the poster child for net zero .
Like the NBN was for the internet, how silly
GET WOKE, GO BROKE.....
"Snowy 2.0 an ‘absolute disaster’".........................you might say the same of Malcolm Turnbull's entire Prime Ministership. The biggest show pony "renewables" project by the biggest show pony Prime Minister there ever was.
You forget about Kevin 07? Close race between bags of hot air.
GREAT SUCCESS STORY SNOWY 2.0
CANCEL TURNBULLS SNOW DREAM !
all solar installed before 2025 will be due for replacement by 2050 and all wind by 2035 / 2040 and then haha 22,000 panels a day each year after 20-25 year life span plus the same for the windmills - Oh and don't forget the batteries with 10 to 15 year life span
While useful idiots breed like rabbits.
As probably THE most diverse resource rich country & with such a small population, I really do wonder why we actually pay a price for power.
Or drive petrol engines.... should be gas and made in Australia.
Surprise its an LNP written contract of course it was going to blow out.
With snowy they are just pouring money in to a bottomless pit just scrap it and walk away now and use the money on other things
Great scam if you can get a piece of the pie
Look into tepco, d,b drilling and linc energy.
Hold the contractor and designers to account. I don't understand how we all complain about the spend but no one asks why these professionals have led us down this path, and what are their accountabilities?
There is no such thing as renewable energy. As we close the last few Australian coal fired power stations the Chinese have built hundreds. They’re needed to build all the solar panels and wind turbines we’re installing. They have a shelf life of twenty to thirty years. Then they will have to be dumped. How will we then meet our energy needs?
There is no such thing as clean energy. Do the sums on all the waste created in mining, processing and smelting them, assembling and transporting them and then dumping them.
We’re sleepwalking into a National Disaster. Once we’ve closed our coal and gas industries and our wind solar collapses we will be trapped in an energy dead fall spiral.
Brought to you by the ALP/Teal/Green/Coalition.
Utter bullshit and propaganda. It's fine to have an opinion, but you are presenting myths as facts. Show many any independent, peer reviewed and verifiable science that supports your claim?
Unfortunately, no new information here, everything is already well known, so, why?? are we doing this? Interestingly, right now, in USA the US Senate is conducting reviews into the US domestic energy scenarios. While this is not an identical landscape, the economics and the technologies used are directly comparable. Some interesting revelations have been uncovered through questioning. On costs so far, there is is defined cost for the amount spent so far on green energy. On benefits so far, there are no defined benefits so far, just a net cost. Net zero is said to be achievable by 2050, cost for achieving it, is not known, it can be any unspecified amount. Frightening. On benefits for achieving net zero, no specific benefits are known or stated, even more frightening. Potentially $50 trillion spent by 2050, for no specific results or milestones along the way.? No wonder the green party are so enthusiastic to push the agenda, free cash money for everyone, forever. More interesting, a major wind farm, has been side lined, and looks scheduled to be replaced with modular nuclear plants (x3). Reasoning, 146000 acres for the wind farm, compared to 36 acres for modular nuclear. Energy output is the same, except the nuclear runs 24/7. More interesting, the modular nuclear solution, will cost a lot less than the monster wind farm, and will appear and become operatopnal more quickly. Flies in the face of what we are being told here, and we are never given any numbers for costings. The bottom line is summarized rather elegantly, . . . what we need, is "evidence based policy, not, policy based evidence". Clever summary.
Never let the LNP anywhere near a major project of any consequence, especially a renewable project. They have form in bungling any kind of initiative that requires thought and planning. Just look what they did to the NBN, the NDIS, defence procurement etc.
Nuclear energy is clean, reliable and has high efficiency. Use that.
In Dubai they build sky scrapers in 6months they work 24/7 with indian workers
True please scrap these useless projects
The nations power system is far too important to be run by todays politically correct children
Anything Malcolm turns his big head to turns out to be a lemon, what a surprise. How on earth did he get rich again?
Climate crisis also deserves a touch of the ‘vernacular’. It’s a deceit.
Time to stop that project and absorb the sunk cost . Or else go broke trying to complete the project for the sheer bloody mindedness of it.
If only the sound bites could be used to fight 'i can't recall' when accountability comes knocking
Going 6x over budget is horrible if the budget is $2 million but spend u $12 million even if its $50 million but u spend $300 million. Yet when the budget is $2 BILLION but spend $12 BILLION that is beyond horrible its ridiculous and incompetence especially when it seems like the project can't actually be completed or worse even possible.
Blackout Bowen to the rescue !!!
The biggest problem it's VICTORIAN. ANDREW'S 😅😂
Is that supposed to be an all Australian project? Would have thought they would consult with overseas people with who have got expertise on this kind of projects.
As it is a big crisis, let politicians and responsible people on this problem their say.
How badly is this government screwing up, both labour and liberal. They are completing screwing up the energy sectors. and they are screwing up the housing sector. Homelessness is increasing because there is not enough houses for families to live in, yet they keep pumping immigration and access to electricity is decreasing, every year during winter deaths increase with the elderly because they can't afford to heat their homes. What the hell, every decade it has gotten worse not better.
The concept is great, that job was awarded to a contractor with a disastrous record of delivering projects, and i dont mean Cloughs, i mean Salini, (WeBuild now),
Complete rubbish, the first Snowy Project was a great success, for irrigation and power generation.
WHY DO WE NEED A CHEAP ALTERNATIVE TO FOSSIL FUELS ? ALL SEEM TO AGREE THAT GAS IS A SOLUTION.JUST BECAUSE IT IS A HYRODOCARBON DOES NOT MEAN THAT IS CARBON FREE OR THAT IT IS NOT A FOSSIL FUEL. WE OURSELVES ARE ALL CARBON !
Draw a line under the cost so far, and bin it!
It was always an infeasible project from the start. Look at the dill, who actually said he was a nation building PM, whose proposal it was!
Check out Perovskite, new solar cell that is 260% greater than exists, which equates to 3,000 watts per home cell. Four or five cells will run a house in the day time. Sad for those invested in silicon cells. May take a year or so before available to consumers. Perovskite last longer than silicon and much, much cheaper, with plenty of its manufacturing minerals readily available. Zero to low toxicity.
Step away from the crack pipe.
@@andrewsarchus6036 Is that really the best you can do ... self identification and masturbation ?
45 seconds research
AND
Despite significant progress in understanding the stability and degradation of perovskite solar cells, they are not currently commercially viable because of their limited operational lifetimes.
Useful idiots abound.
the labor teal greens party MUST close coal / fossil power - remember they passed a LAW - 43% CO2 reduction by 2030 - legal action will force the courts to enforce that cap from one of the many climate activist groups eg extinction rebellion
And we have the trees to offset that.
@@dilligaf8349 yeh nah - they would then have to admit that with trees cover already in Australia we are already at net zero - but so much more damage to be done by the marxists and greens
It's going to take a long time to reverse out of this green net zero rabbit hole' unreliable expensive energy is your new future.
SNOWY 2.0 ONCE ITS BUILD IT WOULD BE A GREAT TURRIST ATRACTION
Paul Broad was the biggest shill for Snowy 2 when he was CEO.
Then he changed his mind due to what he learned, saw and experienced.
It amazes me the inability of many people to discern honesty in others.
@@dougdownunder5622 10 billion too late
"Energy storage & batteries". Even this guy is a total moonbat.
Like Elon musks system that has already burnt in s.a?
We are on the edge of a cliff some of us are standing facing the drop but our government is standing with there back to it that what they are saying all is good keep going
SNOWY 2.0 IS not a disaster when Dutton wants to build radiation plants in australia.
That bruce does not know what he is talking about
It's not the fact of the matter, it is one nutters opinion.
underground very hard what kind of rock granit and many things govment wouldnt know
derrrr.
Before this ill-thought-out project disaster sucks in any more Taxpayer money .........
Cancel it NOW
Should have used a distributed battery system
Like teslas one that burnt in south Australia?
So what is the problem, the lights have not gone out, and there is an over abundance of coal power, solar is going along at gangbuster rates, Actually the amount of coal power is overabundant as is. And that is costing prices to stay high. Because power is being bumped and not going to the grid. Snowy 2 will come online when expected and when the situation arises. So be patient and not panic. There is no foresight in something that has not happened other than by weather events or accidental events so quit grizzling. We do not need accusations that can not be substantiated. You with this sort of nonsense leads to mental instability of younger persons that do not understand your propaganda.
Tell me Barnabas Joyce in his interview with Rita Panahi was not high as a kite.!
Braindead, nasho dropkick beetrooter, family planning "expert" and whining token murdoch ethnic turd panahi 😂😂.
Supreme obfuscation this comment.