Having history of OCD related E.D. I've found I can only watch Luxeria reacting to the shows without spiraling because of the very down to earth commentary. The comedic and holistic based commentary is honestly very healing 💕
Luxerias commentary helps me so much. When my head echos some stupid sentence from shows like this, and the respons of that is hearing Luxeria scream about wigs, gout and caressing banisters through my inner monologue. Its very remedial.
Ngl since that was a Show airing in tv this was never about healthy but getting as many viewers as possible :( I just hate it when THAT fact is used to normalize what happens there. Dont care if thats whats important for shows to gain views, it hurts beyond the people shown in the show. Money cant stand above Human Lifes and Dignity.
While watching this I felt like classism was a massive point, Burnley where Jeanette is from is up north, known for being low income and struggling with food poverty, whereas Rosemary is a property investor which I assume means she makes a lot more money, probably living in a better area with more access to nutritious foods especially considering her chef background. Rosemary and Dr Christian constantly berate Jeanette for her greasy takeaway choices but as a fellow northerner, that's all most people can afford round here. After all, especially if she is trying to gain weight and diet culture perpetuates that takeaways are calorie-dense and fattening, it makes sense that she would go for these foods. I don't like how Rosemary berated her for not cooking at home, even after Jeanette had talked about how she is very busy all the time running her own business and raising her kids. When you have little time and little money you go for the easiest option, not the most nutritious one.
Exactly! Also, as pointed out in another comment, this program started right around the time of the big financial crash in the late 00's. Definitely some class disparity going on here
I agree to an extent but I also don't think it was morally okay for the show to put Rosemary in a position where she was being asked to eat food that was less healthy than the food she came in eating, I think that on itself fed the conflict. While she did need to cut her portions to suddenly switch her to high fat / high carb food was not a good thing for her health and weight loss journey and I think she knew that.
I was about to comment the exact same thing. There's definitely a class difference here. I feel like the skinny woman is probably quite working class and maybe she just hasn't had the opportunity to have a lot of the healthier foods, whereas the other lady clearly has enough to eat a lot of high quality gourmet foods and came across as quite snobby.
Low-key Rosemary was giving a bit of classism 😬. Not everyone can go "I don't even look at the price of the food, if I want it I have it". And the way she was speaking to Jeanette about the food. Gave me an icky feeling.
is she the thin person or the not thin person? Honestly, it you've got half a brain you can eat whatever you want. It's incredibly easy to be overweight . It is difficult to choose high-quality food and keep up a toned shape whilst fulfilling social obligations. Even more difficult to have an aversion to food in general and do all of the above. Yes, I can buy whatever I want, yet I envy you go getters who don't give a shit; in order to make yourself feel better about being poor, you dog those of us who are not.
“Cheap takeaway junk food” if I remember correctly this show first aired in 2008 and what happened then? Global financial crash. I remember growing up as a child at that time and I’m sure the majority of “average” people in the U.K. were eating “cheap” filling food because that’s all we could afford. Like most problems, it all comes back to the failures of capitalism - “once in a lifetime financial crash”, born in 1999 and we’re on what, fourth or fifth financial crash?
Very few of these shows that use fat people for content ever look into how healthy eating has quickly and near completely become a thing for the rich. Fatphobia and classism are heavily intertwined.
What’s crazy..unrelated, but today things are even worse than in 2008. 😭 I can barely afford to eat let alone eat the crap food! Things are so bad right now. I hope they change soon. The inflation between food and gas _alone_ is enough to instill a constant fear in me! Add in everything else, and there are months I just have to go without so I can afford my medication.
I wonder how the present economic climate will affect the health of the population?! I know that here in Canada, every thing from the grocery store has gotten so expensive that I had to modify my grocery list to accommodate witch directly impacts my diet. I am not poor but still in the lower echelons of middle class so I can’t even imagine how hard it must be for people that are on welfare or single parent households!
i used to watch this when i was anorexic to keep me from eating . woooooo. i also had a friend who was featured on the who, her name was Jay and she died from anorexia. she was part of the reason i ended up recovering, at least part of the reason i wanted to start trying to get out of it. when i met my husband i was able to finally recover with his support, cutting out my abusive family, and going to IOP. i am fat now, but happier.
When they "swap diets" what I'm hearing is they're swinging from one end of "extremity" to the other. No one is actually learning how to eat a "healthy" diet for their own bodies. Nothing about that is helpful.
In this program the participants get a personal diet plans. But I do agree for the viewers we only get to see what not to do... !?It would be beneficial to focus more airtime on What to do to eat healthy!
Abby sharps dietitian licience needed to be revoked she’s a hypocrite she Cherry picks part of people’s videos so that she can criticise them for views
It makes me think in the beginning (at least how production is portraying it) that Rosemary hates the idea that even though she eats finer foods she is bigger than Jeannette eating “trash” food. I also believe that she may be thinking she’s eating better than what’s portrayed when in reality she’s not. I lost 20 lbs and In realized that there were food items that I should have been eating more often than I was. I was delusional on my habits and I am working towards that.
Agree. Maybe Rosemary isn't aware that it's all about calories in the end. I can become overweight eating the healthies vegan diet if I eat more than my body burns.
She definitely gave me the vibe of having assumed that the superskinny person would be constantly eating salads and smoothies, and then is trying to balance the idea of someone eating all the 'wrong' foods in her mind (cheap, often fried fast food) struggling to gain weight while she, who is eating 'correct' foods (expensive, fancy, homemade) is struggling to lose it.
Yeah she was definitely still in the "healthy foods are free calories" delusion, cooking up enough food to feed a family of four and still saying it was a "normal size" steak. She may eat good foods, but good foods still have calories. Her portions are absurd.
I'd also be upset in Rosemary's place, going on a show like this with the impression that it would help me lose weight but instead being given cheap takeaway food with no nutritional value.
I think that Rosemary may be in denial about her portion sizes and sees her cooking as nutritious and homemade. She may not have expected the other participant, for lack of better words ate ‘bad/unhealthy’ foods, and so she may be feeling almost betrayed
Yeah I feel this. I have someone quite overweight in my life in their “healthy home meals” are so calorie dense and unhealthy. But no it’s leagues healthier than my food full of “harmful chemicals” (sweetener / flavourings instead of high cal stuff). And my proper adult portions are “not enough for a toddler”, meanwhile they’re eating triple the recommended….
This is Horror Corn. This show, 600 lb life, and most of the others about overweight humans are filmed from a perspective of shock and horror. The camera angles are shameful. Who lays on the floor underneath me looking up from my stomach? Can we film the producers from these angles and zoom in on their "problem areas?" No???????? I see. PS: Dr Christian looks like the late great Julian Sands, and no one can tell me otherwise.
There’s such an elites energy coming off Rosemary, she went in immediately with a need to attack the other lady for no reason. Also I think the reason why this show feels more damaging to viewers compared to something like fat families is the fact it’s presented by a doctor and seems to give the idea of “I must trust this information if it’s coming from a doctor” rather than a random man in a suit calling a family a “bunch of fatties”.
Agreed. I was hopeful that having two women paired up would introduce some compassion and ease some of the mean comments, but Rosemary starts right in with the cattiness by demeaning Janelle, who of course is going to snap back to defend herself. Extremely disappointing.
45:19 i think its snobbery. The way shes turning her nose up at white bread or the fried sausage (which she could have just said she didnt like). I dont know why shes even on the show
For the larger lady I bet she thought a too skinny person would eat healthy but not enough. In this episode I think she’s afronted that not only does she eat less but her diet is basically crap so she’s meant to eat rubbish in a small portion and be helped!! She isn’t learning anything positive really…. To me anyway
As an anorexic I can attest people think I wouldn’t dare touch junk food or anything unhealthy. To which I tell them yeah it’s unhealthy but it’s my only meal of the day 🤷. Love horrifying the stupidly insensitive.
@@pronounhoarder_8632 I don’t blame either lady, I blame production and the doctor making ‘good’ tv . I’d be pissed too if a professional helped me by not helping at all. Hope ur healthy, my daughter is borderline and it’s scares me sh*tless! Take care 💜💜🦇
Calling Jeanette's food disgusting and saying she wouldn't feed it to her dog is so unnecessarily barbed and contemptuous especially when you consider being a "foodie" is a privilege in itself. I believe there's an element of overcorrecting in her rejection of the greasy food - it's food that's regularly associated with the obese so in order to be one of the "good" fat people she unequivocally rejects the fast food and pushes it out of reach. I don't know if she sees that her childish behaviour is very insulting to the person sitting across from her but I can't blame Jeanette for biting back.
I remember the worst thing for my eating disorders (anorexia and bulimia) was weighing myself, measuring myself, and having to keep a food diary. By putting numbers on it and keeping track, I felt disgusted constantly. I'm 28 now, I'm a healthy size, but I have no idea what I weigh and I don't keep track of what I eat. I get weighed at the drs and they don't tell me what it says, just tells me if there's an issue. This last year I was able to buy a full length mirror for the first time, it's freestanding because somedays I need to turn it around, but most days I can look in it. By not having numbers or a track record to compare against, I keep my sanity and just take every day one at a time
🤢 the way they film everything with that overexposed filter... so gross.. also, Rosemary is being such a brat about the whole experience. It's so disappointing to see one person trying their hardest to follow the plan, and the other person just poo-pooing the entire process. I get it. You're a chef, but you're on the show for a reason, so maybe just give it a chance? Anyway, I'm so glad to catch another gem of a video by my favorite youtuber!
Thinking about that time Laverne Cox and Carmen Carrera went on a daytime talk show together. Katie Couric asked them if they had bottom surgery in less than polite terms. Those poor women were trying to explain that is not polite to ask. At the time, I thought it was incredibly rude and it made me uncomfortable to see how uncomfortable those women were. The state of other people’s genitals is none of other’s people’s business unless they are planning to have sex with them.
@@Luxeria I was excited to see the two of them at the time because I liked Orange is the New Black and RuPaul’s Drag Race. Then seeing the two of them asked embarrassing questions on tv…
That's the point though isn't it - as a CIS female who naturally looks very girly, no one has EVER asked me about my genitals. I don't understand why trans people, or even CIS people who don't present in a gender normative way are seen so regularly being interrogated about what's in their pants!
As a society we tend to think better of people who are thin, and placing someone obese with a “super skinny” might bring out feelings of inferiority. May be why we’ve seen so many of the “supersize” participants almost bully the “super skinny” and why Rosemarie was acting as if the only thing she could eat was 5 star meals.
I have watch several episode and most of the time i feel its the opposite, like the skinny people making critic of how fat their diet are and not making a lot of effort
Watching these with Luxeria is a bit like therapy for my inner teenager that would starve herself while binge-watching these on TH-cam❤ Now I watch while enjoying my meal 🥰
Oh I hear ya! I used to put them (or 'you are what you eat') on first thing to get me good & triggered for the day... I didn't dare watch these vids cause I was like '.... Its going to hurt!' But I'm watching Luxeria with a sailboat size, loaded vegan toastie & the only reason I keep putting it down is cause I'm cracking up laughing!
Ive struggled with being underweight my whole life. For some reason my doctor never thought to check my thyroid until I was pregnant at 28 years old. I was so afraid I was going to lose all of the weight I gained with baby. I gained 52lbs and wanted to keep 20lbs at least. I stayed on the thyroid meds even after baby and I was able to keep the 20lbs on. I just dont understand how my doctor never thought to look at my thyroid before pregnancy when I was struggling to even be 100lbs my whole life.
honestly I quite despise that we have to be so so so insistent with doctors, when I first was on HRT so many doctors refused to help me - i finally found a really good GP and stayed with them for 10 years
There was a girl in my class who was like 145cm and 34kgs in 12th grade and for the life of her couldn't put on weight. My best friend was/is good friends with her so I know it wasn't an ED. She's a PhD in clinical nutrition now because guess what, it was a combination of metabolism and immune issues.
It goes both ways. It seems dr’s just don’t really care to do anything other than the 15 min reason you are there to get a drug to solve. Anything more and they just tell you nothing is wrong. You really have to advocate for yourself. I used to go with my mother and she with me to every dr apt so there was someone else there to talk to the dr and share what you may have forgotten. It helps to get the dr to do more than just shoo you away.
He's worried about the 'supersizer' not eating very much this week....but when they get fed the very small/nonexistent 'superskinny' portions normally that's fine? Make it make sense
Eating something however small is better for your body than eating nothing at all. Stomach acid levels rising and blood sugar drops are super dangerous.
Yeah, do you remember the episode where the superskinny guy didn’t eat for nearly 2 days? (He would smoke cigarettes instead of food, but thankfully they didn’t make the other guy smoke lol) - they didn’t gaf about it then
Well I think Rosemarie may have told production she wasnt going to do the program half way through as they didnt do the pictures with her or the scary fat people in America segment they usually do... she was also very emotional/confrontational when Christian talked about her weight and being morbidly obese right at the start, they never showed her pictures of gout or whatever like they usually do either.
Sooooo I just looked it up and the general consensus among professionals is that on average, people fluctuate between 4-6 pounds per DAY!!!! 😮😮 So I'm sorry, but I don't comprehend the significance of her 2lb weight gain in those months. Jeanette definitely should have a proper, in-depth medical examination to see if, like Luxeria suggested, there could be something like a hormone imbalance going on.
I was obsessed with this show in the start of my ED , the worst episode for me was the torso plaster casts of ED patients. The anorexic girl fainted & then cried + refused to look at the mould taken. I really empathised with her especially at that time , seeing her being forced to “confront what she’s done to herself!” For views & drama made me so uneasy. I always skipped the ED sections bc they were just modern sideshows to gawk at it never did anything to dissuade me & so many girls in my bulimia therapy group watched that show. Can now say I’m nearly 6months purge free after a 12yr battle & 5K worth of dental care later (no thanks to nhs so if you’re bri’ish thinking dental might be covered bc you fucked yourself over nah you’re on your own )
@@Luxeria omg I’m chosen ! Edit : sorry excitement- Yes ! I am loving these reactions like a lighthearted forcefield around what could be potentially triggering topics. I’m in a good place now , weirdly the dental work was the motivation needed to stop.❤️❤️
I also watched it in the height of my ED. I always thought as exploitative as it was, that it also left me feeling okay if I gained weight because it was the healthy thing to do. Over time I was able to obsess less about how skinny I was, and focus more on getting healthy habits.
Yeah still in it but mentally better by a small margin than before. I struggle to watch the Ed segments because they remind me of all the crazy stuff if did / how I used to behave when I was underweight and a lot more mentally delulu. It’s tough to watch it thinking this is how I maybe acted and how I maybe looked. I actually started to remember more of that time as I slowly started to eat more and at least try to maintain minimally healthy. PSA for anyone that needs to hear it, I’ve lost actual memories and periods of time from restrictive eating and my eating disorder. It fucked with my brain and thinking that badly. I still don’t know what I looked like and I still don’t have a great grasp of my size. (Logically I know I’m thin, child size thin but I can’t see clearly through the body dysmorphia and anorexia).
No matter what body a person is in they deserve respect and to not be bullied on TV for everyone to see (or bullied in general). The shots of the food gore make me gag every time.
Also I feel like the diet swap makes no sense? Why not show them how to portion and manage time and choose healthy options in an encouraging way. Sure, get two people from opposite sides of the scale but give them separate diets and information and like... Idk? Get them to understand what to do to help in their journey, without embarrassment, starving/overeating, stress and anxiety! Higher levels of cortisol have a terrible effect on the body.
the thought crossed my mind, what if rosemary's a terrible chef? that rissotto looked too clumpy, and the mushrooms with the steak looks overcooked, and the ratatouille looked sloppy. edit: she also seems insufferable. at least the other woman is making an effort. don't tell me she grew up eating all home cooked food. there's some deep seated mental issue there that needs to be addressed first
When Luxeria said "Look at the metabolism chart" at 50:35... y'all WHAT IS THAT??? And there are spirals?? Why does it look like a medival map, complete with "here be dragons" and whatnot? High school chemistry is when I decided not to pursue a career in biological science and switched to computer science instead lol. Is that why I'm overweight??? MAYBE!
Rosemary seems resistant to being on the same level as the other participant - as if she isn’t one herself and is somehow above the situation - so maybe some deep resistance to her own situation!? 💜
didn’t realize just quite how early i was. as for entitled people… my best friend in secondary school was considered “skinny” and one girl like felt entitled to touch her legs for no reason other than to point out that she was rather thin?! soo weird.
On the note of calorie "types," there is some evidence to suggest that many "quality" whole foods take more energy for the body to digest than heavily processed foods. In other words, extracting the calories from something like steak requires more caloric output than extracting the calories from a fried noodle, so the net calories absorbed from those whole foods may be lower than their full explosive potential. Taking longer to digest can also leave you feeling fuller for longer, while simple starches that are already partially digested by the time they leave your mouth can digest quickly and leave you hungry and looking for a snack later. Meanwhile, there's strong "anecdotal visual evidence" that a good portion of the calories in certain vegetables obviously aren't being fully utilized by the human body. So while calories in calories out is a useful metric as a rough shorthand, it's not as though all calories in food are completely functionally equivalent.
I think one of the most insidious and pernicious aspects of this show is that there was an entire production company and broadcasting team that allowed this to not only be released, but run for SEVERAL. SEASONS. Gag
What is Rosemary's problem with the food she's been given? She literally handed Janette a croissant with bacon on it! Also, the baked potato with half a bag of grated cheese on top.
Yeah , being trans black and disable is an interesting mix. People constantly try to touch my hair.That's the most prevalent thing that people invade my privacy with so annoying.
What annoyed me more than anything else in this episode was the blase way they just wasted all that food. The food "connoisseur" cutting her nose off to spite her face and chucking everything in the binl. Absolutely hateful!
Right? All of them were awful but the one that really got me was the cheddar cheese toast. “I know the nutritional value of processed white bread” like she didn’t hand her a croissant with the exact same cheddar cheese and some bacon the other day
My nutritionist explained that dieting and healthy eating are not the same thing. Because being aware of how food affects you and being in tune with your hunger and fullness ques, is healthy eating. She also explained that muscular men and skinny women are presented as being healthy.
The big issue with this show was it never encouraged healthy, nourished eating, and this episode really emphasised that. Usually, it is 2 individuals who eat UPFs, just one too little and one too much. This time, the supersized person was actually eating really nourishing food, just too much of it. If they wanted to encourage healthy eating, they would have just reduced the amount she was eating but instead they forced her to eat junk food. I never understood the aim of the diet swap. How will forcing a skinny person to eat, or starving a fat person help them to fix their relationship with food? Long term weight loss relies on changing your relationship with food and being active (not even the gym, just regular walking). Why did they not do that?
1:55 There is a big history about the "who should be seen in public" kind of thinking. It was literally written into law in the 1880s in Chicago, New Orleans, San Francisco and other US cities that certain people were not allowed to occupy public spaces and would be fined if they did. I won't go into detail as it's potentially upsetting. But for anyone interested you can read more by looking for 'ugly ordinances' or 'ugly laws'.
I used to watch these shows as a “motivation” to not let myself gain more weight. Now I see how “simple” yet “extreme” they made the weight journey. It is so much more complicated. I am autistic and have sensory issues with certain foods. I also don’t register when I am full. Never had, even as a child. Ive eaten to the point of being physically ill, yet still went back for more. Never seen any show address anything like those things. It’s all shock value and making the money. The dollar is above actually helping people and getting to the root of the food issues. All hail the powerful dollar.
Seeing my food mixed together like that would completely ruin my shaky appetite. Why tf would they do that to the thinner person? (I also just subscribed; Thank you, Luxeria!)
I've been overweight my whole life just about. Have struggled with EDs for 18 years now. Currently trying to fight off the beginning stages of a relapse. Truly thank you Luxeria for approaching this topic in such a delicate, yet informative way ❤️ the way you talk about this topic and everything that comes with it has been the least triggering or damaging for me personally to listen to
That's why they are a good pair and good friends. They are very similar to eachother with their personalities and crazyness lol. When they do the uploads of both of them together it's so much fun
27:25 - AAHH I had that realisation about a year and a half ago 😭 “there’s always an explanation, not always an excuse” and it’s come in SO helpful for my own behaviour and that of those around me. I’m so glad you’ve had the same epiphany with slightly different wording 😂
I’m always so glad when you bring up how important hormones are when it comes to weight control. I have underactive thyroid and it makes weight management so difficult. P.s. When you said ‘going up and down buildings’ i pictured you Spiderman climbing up the outside of a building 😂
“I am looking forward to there being less of her!” …ew ew ew. If anybody ever said that to me, they’d get that wish immediately by seeing nothing but my shadow as I walk out the door forever. What a disgusting thing to say about someone you claim to love. There were 2 kinds of people in my life when I was obese; those who cared about how I looked, and those who cared about how I FELT. Guess who I kept in my life when I lost the weight?
I agree with you about the evolution of body positivity. As someone with chronic pain who has lost about 70 lbs so far from changing my diet and being more active, I have had people even in my personal life tell me that I should work on being 'happy with my body the way it is'. Being in crippling pain 24-7 is not positive. We cannot use absolutes like this and apply them to everyone.
I’m there with you sister. I have had chronic pain for over ten years and just getting my meds to work is a daily challenge. Not being able to get out of bed with crippling back neck and migraine pain, it’s hard to loose weight when you can’t even get up. Luckily my stress levels have gone down and it seems to correlate with my pain. Most days I’m lucky to feel happy let alone good enough to move. I did do the carnivore diet with my husband last year and lost 20 lbs. I tried ozempic and lost 15 lbs the first month nothing the second then stopped because I could not find joy and was having massive amounts of migraines. I’m hoping it leaves my body soon tho I hear it takes a while to exit. Mind health is terribly influenced when your body hurts.
Im autistic & have struggled with food my entire life. Im 28 & still do. cant stand the textures of fruit at all. And 90% of veg. I have the same meals every week or so. All my life i have heard im unhealthy, im too skinny, im too picky etc etc. Its so nice and refreshing to see actual helpful, sensible commentary on these kinda of with individual issues with diets. Not ND i know but still showing that not 1 size fits all when it comes to these things like these shows we watched growing up made us think.
I'm also autistic and if you're not already familiar, you should look into ARFID (avoidant restrictive food intake disorder). I have a different profile than you but I recently started working with a dietitian who specializes in working with ppl who are neurodivergent. The progress is slow but it has been helpful.
For me it’s white bread and butter everyone seems to put so much butter it becomes soggy, runny cheese so disgusting textures are horrible. Like a simple ham sandwich becomes an event, like can’t do packet ham has to be proper ham from a market, packet ham is too wet and chewy.
I really hope that after this they looked into medical explanations for Janette's inability to gain weight, cos while she does look better, spray tan and make up aside. I would have expected 3x's the weight gain, assuming she followed a 2000cal diet plan. And she says its been a life long issue, so unless shes been anorexic her whole life there's got to be something else going on. Also hot damn did the just gloss over the clear class difference for these two women!
Can corroborate the thing about hormones, I lost almost 15 kg just by switching from an oral contraceptive to an IUD. There’s also things like migraines that can massively affect weight. I have very severe migraines and you go through weird cycles during migraines where food can be mildly nauseating to downright revolting during an attack followed by intense cravings and extreme hunger afterwards. It makes your weight fluctuate all over the place, because your food intake is so irregular, you often don’t eat healthy and exercise during migraines is pretty much impossible or on the other end you might regurgitate food due to nausea. Most prophylactic medications also have weight gain as a side effect, so meds and hormones definitely affect weight a lot.
I think Rosemary not eating might be a bigger problem than they make out. Im a very big girl and very easily slip into an all or nothing mindset. If relationships with food are bad either way you can swing to the otherside so easily. I lost a lot of weight but have slipped back and put it all back on. I fear it may go the other way again and lose too much . The battle is constant
I'm currently on a weight gain journey due to ill health and surgery. It's definitely not as easy as scoffing burgers!! Finding the balanced diet that is suitable for YOU highly resembles juggling 😂💜🦋 Cuddles to Mr Biscuit 🐾🐾 Edit, yeah being in a wheelchair seems to give people the impression that they have the right to ask intrusive and personal questions.. welcome to the freak show? I think not..
From which decade are you referring, the beauty standard for a woman's weight seems to change every 10 yrs. Like a cycle; skinny, thick, voluptuous, skinny, thick, voluptuous ect...
THANK YOU for your 100% sensible take on what body positivity has become vs. what it should be 🙌 FAAAAR too many people are afraid of being "canceled" by deluded angry mobs to say it.
I have issues with food due to chronic nausea. What's more important than maintaining my weight is making sure I don't have any nutritional deficiencies, which is something that's never mentioned. You can be lacking important nutrients at any size.
if I saw someone in the street with a sign that said "ban big bums" and who was SHOUTING that I would have a hard time not yelling back at them to shut the f*ck up or ask why they're so threatened by other people's bodies. I love the sensible takes throughout this video, Luxeria, I don't think I could handle watching this without your commentary. My favorite takeaway this time is "you can't heal in the same situation that is harming you" - SO TRUE, sensible AF. Also LOVE that you included the metabolism biochemistry mechanisms chart like whoa sis I knew it was complex but I did not understand the scale hahaha, incredible!! I love that we have people working on refining our understanding the biochemical processes of human metabolism, as weird as that sentence strikes me haha :D Science at me any time!
@25:46 “That’s actually only about 300 grams.” Newsflash: one ounce is thirty grams, and a portion of meat is meat to be three ounces, or ninety grams. That means she’s cooking a ten-ounce steak that’s meant to be feeding three people and then some. That’s not a “modest size” woman, that’s FOOD FOR THREE!
The smallest steaks in the supermarkets are 227g. 100 grams is tiny. The NHS says an 8oz grilled steak is a portion. Are you meaning cooked or uncooked?
@@littleboots9800 that’s just what I was told was a portion. Might be different in the UK, that’s what it is here in the USA. A serving of meat here is considered three ounces.
@@rosevanillaberrychocolate5170 if anything US portions would be bigger, but as it is the US sells steak in 8oz, 12oz and 16oz sizes. (Steak is referred to by its uncooked weight.) It would be impossible to cook a 100g steak properly. By the time you got a good sear on the outside the middle would be overcooked, that's why steaks are rarely seen in smaller sizes. 3oz is ludicrously small. An average chicken breast is 6-8oz. No one eats half a chicken breast.
You know, the fiance is insufferable but Rosemary has been too. It's awfully difficult to have empathy for someone acting so cruel. I guess they framed it that she was being a bit nicer, it was pretty unpleasant.
I'm sorry, this isn't food you'd normally eat? That's the whole point of the show..?? The other person is also eating food they'd never have eaten otherwise, that is the whole concept! Her look of contempt makes me want to scream. What an insufferable person.
"Millennial Healing," is the perfect description for the feeling I get rewatching these shows from those times with Luxeria's modern and compassionate commentary and the satisfaction of her yelling at people who were treating others abominably.
I'm a very new subscriber who stayed for your personality. I've been binge watching your videos and then in this one you talk about of my favorite things....She's a Final Fantasy Girlie!!!! Also, before I got pregnant, I finally got down to my Step One Goal weight. At my heaviest, I was 205. I got down to 140 in 5 months. The last time I tried to lose weight, I couldn't get down past 170, no matter what I tried. Even while Pregnant, and being a bottomless pit as my pregnancy started as a twin pregnancy, my heaviest weight was 190. I always had a weird and fucked up relationship with food, due to childhood trauma. Finally worked through it, and it became easier to make better lifestyle choices.
I feel for Jeanette. I struggle with not feeling hungry and having to force myself to eat. At one point I was severely underweight and decided what I ate didn't matter, I just need to eat something. I only reached what I consider a healthy weight when I went on a medication where one of the side effects is increased appetite.
What in the super WTF happened in the first 5 seconds of this video ? Anyways ready to watch this next hope not that horrific episode of the torture people show!
When my daughter had anorexia (ages 16-23) and spent time in residential care, when she came home, I was given a really basic way of feeding her. At dinner it was either 3/4 of a cup or a cup of protein and the same of carbs and vegetables. Breakfast was cereal with homogenised milk or an alternative equivalent, a cup of juice, a cup of yoghurt, lunch was a filled roll or sandwich type thing, juice and yoghurt and then morning tea, afternoon tea and supper and we were a guideline of what constituted a "snack." This was a lot of food but she needed it and, for me, it was the same as at CREDS so it was harder for her to argue that I was overdoing it. Gosh it was exhausting and, in actual fact, the purpose was really to keep her alive for long enough until she recovered enough cognitively to be invested in recovering herself.
Idc how long ago this episode was I need that absolute goddess of a woman to call off the damn wedding STAT bc I'd absolutely treat her so much better than that monster of a man like how do you talk like that about someone you're going to MARRY
Well well well! If it isn't the BEST channel to ever exist www.youtube.com/@LuxeriaLabs
@@Luxeria just subscribed 🥰
wig tea
You seem very kind, and I'm here for the positive aura
Where's the lie? It really is indeed, hugs & love ❤️
I'm sorry but that bloke that said "I'm looking forward to there being less of her" needs to go IN THE BIN. Imagine your partner saying that!
I know right! Red flag waving. Is that why the narrator was talking about divorce? They are not even married yet and he is wishing for “less of her”.
@@carriesmith3421 it doesn’t bode well for their marriage does it? 🫣 what a catch 🙄🤢
In 👏the 👏 BIN! 👏
I can't even imagine how she must have felt when she heard that. It broke my heart for her.
My mouth was HANGING open. Such an awful thing to say about your partner...
Having history of OCD related E.D. I've found I can only watch Luxeria reacting to the shows without spiraling because of the very down to earth commentary. The comedic and holistic based commentary is honestly very healing 💕
thankyou lovely! I try to keep very grounded while also screaming about wigs 💀😂🖤
@@Luxeria We love a good WIG moment 😂 🖤🖤
Luxeria is the PERFECT buffer for this kind of content 💜🖤
Luxerias commentary helps me so much. When my head echos some stupid sentence from shows like this, and the respons of that is hearing Luxeria scream about wigs, gout and caressing banisters through my inner monologue. Its very remedial.
The words “starving the supersized and stuffing the super skinny” are so unbelievable like yall didn’t think that was problematic??
It was like 2008 where crazy skinny was the thing to be
@@aliyah_a00then they wouldn't be forcing the skinny girls to eat like the obese ones
@@aliyah_a00then they wouldn't be forcing the skinny girls to eat like the big ones
Ngl since that was a Show airing in tv this was never about healthy but getting as many viewers as possible :(
I just hate it when THAT fact is used to normalize what happens there. Dont care if thats whats important for shows to gain views, it hurts beyond the people shown in the show.
Money cant stand above Human Lifes and Dignity.
While watching this I felt like classism was a massive point, Burnley where Jeanette is from is up north, known for being low income and struggling with food poverty, whereas Rosemary is a property investor which I assume means she makes a lot more money, probably living in a better area with more access to nutritious foods especially considering her chef background. Rosemary and Dr Christian constantly berate Jeanette for her greasy takeaway choices but as a fellow northerner, that's all most people can afford round here. After all, especially if she is trying to gain weight and diet culture perpetuates that takeaways are calorie-dense and fattening, it makes sense that she would go for these foods. I don't like how Rosemary berated her for not cooking at home, even after Jeanette had talked about how she is very busy all the time running her own business and raising her kids. When you have little time and little money you go for the easiest option, not the most nutritious one.
This informs so much of the weirdness that I felt watching it. It was almost degrading.
I came here to comment the same thing. It seems so classist to me; Rosemary comes across almost as if she’s looking down on Jeannette.
Exactly! Also, as pointed out in another comment, this program started right around the time of the big financial crash in the late 00's. Definitely some class disparity going on here
I agree to an extent but I also don't think it was morally okay for the show to put Rosemary in a position where she was being asked to eat food that was less healthy than the food she came in eating, I think that on itself fed the conflict.
While she did need to cut her portions to suddenly switch her to high fat / high carb food was not a good thing for her health and weight loss journey and I think she knew that.
I was about to comment the exact same thing. There's definitely a class difference here. I feel like the skinny woman is probably quite working class and maybe she just hasn't had the opportunity to have a lot of the healthier foods, whereas the other lady clearly has enough to eat a lot of high quality gourmet foods and came across as quite snobby.
Low-key Rosemary was giving a bit of classism 😬. Not everyone can go "I don't even look at the price of the food, if I want it I have it". And the way she was speaking to Jeanette about the food. Gave me an icky feeling.
is she the thin person or the not thin person? Honestly, it you've got half a brain you can eat whatever you want. It's incredibly easy to be overweight . It is difficult to choose high-quality food and keep up a toned shape whilst fulfilling social obligations. Even more difficult to have an aversion to food in general and do all of the above. Yes, I can buy whatever I want, yet I envy you go getters who don't give a shit; in order to make yourself feel better about being poor, you dog those of us who are not.
Correct. She's being a bully and snob
“Cheap takeaway junk food” if I remember correctly this show first aired in 2008 and what happened then? Global financial crash. I remember growing up as a child at that time and I’m sure the majority of “average” people in the U.K. were eating “cheap” filling food because that’s all we could afford. Like most problems, it all comes back to the failures of capitalism - “once in a lifetime financial crash”, born in 1999 and we’re on what, fourth or fifth financial crash?
1000000% the economy has a huge impact on how people can nourish themselves
Very few of these shows that use fat people for content ever look into how healthy eating has quickly and near completely become a thing for the rich. Fatphobia and classism are heavily intertwined.
What’s crazy..unrelated, but today things are even worse than in 2008. 😭 I can barely afford to eat let alone eat the crap food! Things are so bad right now. I hope they change soon. The inflation between food and gas _alone_ is enough to instill a constant fear in me! Add in everything else, and there are months I just have to go without so I can afford my medication.
17:12 😭😭😭
I wonder how the present economic climate will affect the health of the population?! I know that here in Canada, every thing from the grocery store has gotten so expensive that I had to modify my grocery list to accommodate witch directly impacts my diet. I am not poor but still in the lower echelons of middle class so I can’t even imagine how hard it must be for people that are on welfare or single parent households!
Rosemary could get rid of a whole lot of weight...by ditching her awful, partner.
i used to watch this when i was anorexic to keep me from eating . woooooo. i also had a friend who was featured on the who, her name was Jay and she died from anorexia. she was part of the reason i ended up recovering, at least part of the reason i wanted to start trying to get out of it. when i met my husband i was able to finally recover with his support, cutting out my abusive family, and going to IOP. i am fat now, but happier.
I think a lot of us around this time period did the same thing. The 2000s were a crazy time for diet culture. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.
When she said two brides to be I thought they where getting marrried to eachother
honestly a better show 😂
Same 😂
I keep forgetting straight people exist 😅
They did get married after the show!
That would have been more interesting to say the least.
When they "swap diets" what I'm hearing is they're swinging from one end of "extremity" to the other. No one is actually learning how to eat a "healthy" diet for their own bodies. Nothing about that is helpful.
In this program the participants get a personal diet plans. But I do agree for the viewers we only get to see what not to do... !?It would be beneficial to focus more airtime on What to do to eat healthy!
Abby Sharp a Canadian dietitian, thought that licenses needed to be revoked because of how deranged this show is.
i very much agree!
Idk who Abby sharp is. However I have Loved this show since before it was on the rerun circuit!
Abby sharps dietitian licience needed to be revoked she’s a hypocrite she Cherry picks part of people’s videos so that she can criticise them for views
“Your knees are wrinkled” oh dear, time for a knee lift and a deep phenol peel
Chop chop!
“It’s a modest size. That’s only 300 grams” OF STEAK???? My god can she and I do a food budget swap? 🥺
It makes me think in the beginning (at least how production is portraying it) that Rosemary hates the idea that even though she eats finer foods she is bigger than Jeannette eating “trash” food. I also believe that she may be thinking she’s eating better than what’s portrayed when in reality she’s not. I lost 20 lbs and In realized that there were food items that I should have been eating more often than I was. I was delusional on my habits and I am working towards that.
Agree. Maybe Rosemary isn't aware that it's all about calories in the end. I can become overweight eating the healthies vegan diet if I eat more than my body burns.
She definitely gave me the vibe of having assumed that the superskinny person would be constantly eating salads and smoothies, and then is trying to balance the idea of someone eating all the 'wrong' foods in her mind (cheap, often fried fast food) struggling to gain weight while she, who is eating 'correct' foods (expensive, fancy, homemade) is struggling to lose it.
Yeah she was definitely still in the "healthy foods are free calories" delusion, cooking up enough food to feed a family of four and still saying it was a "normal size" steak. She may eat good foods, but good foods still have calories. Her portions are absurd.
I'd also be upset in Rosemary's place, going on a show like this with the impression that it would help me lose weight but instead being given cheap takeaway food with no nutritional value.
I think that Rosemary may be in denial about her portion sizes and sees her cooking as nutritious and homemade. She may not have expected the other participant, for lack of better words ate ‘bad/unhealthy’ foods, and so she may be feeling almost betrayed
Yeah I feel this. I have someone quite overweight in my life in their “healthy home meals” are so calorie dense and unhealthy. But no it’s leagues healthier than my food full of “harmful chemicals” (sweetener / flavourings instead of high cal stuff).
And my proper adult portions are “not enough for a toddler”, meanwhile they’re eating triple the recommended….
This is Horror Corn. This show, 600 lb life, and most of the others about overweight humans are filmed from a perspective of shock and horror. The camera angles are shameful. Who lays on the floor underneath me looking up from my stomach? Can we film the producers from these angles and zoom in on their "problem areas?" No???????? I see. PS: Dr Christian looks like the late great Julian Sands, and no one can tell me otherwise.
I agree! I think also the videography in this show is particularly hateful, because it’s purposefully colour graded to look just awful 💀
@@Luxeriaakin to TLC's horrific groin level filming.
Yes, Always think of Julian Sands when I see him
@@mogvgb So glad it is not just me!
There’s such an elites energy coming off Rosemary, she went in immediately with a need to attack the other lady for no reason. Also I think the reason why this show feels more damaging to viewers compared to something like fat families is the fact it’s presented by a doctor and seems to give the idea of “I must trust this information if it’s coming from a doctor” rather than a random man in a suit calling a family a “bunch of fatties”.
Agreed. I was hopeful that having two women paired up would introduce some compassion and ease some of the mean comments, but Rosemary starts right in with the cattiness by demeaning Janelle, who of course is going to snap back to defend herself. Extremely disappointing.
45:19 i think its snobbery. The way shes turning her nose up at white bread or the fried sausage (which she could have just said she didnt like). I dont know why shes even on the show
For the larger lady I bet she thought a too skinny person would eat healthy but not enough. In this episode I think she’s afronted that not only does she eat less but her diet is basically crap so she’s meant to eat rubbish in a small portion and be helped!! She isn’t learning anything positive really…. To me anyway
As an anorexic I can attest people think I wouldn’t dare touch junk food or anything unhealthy. To which I tell them yeah it’s unhealthy but it’s my only meal of the day 🤷. Love horrifying the stupidly insensitive.
@@pronounhoarder_8632 I don’t blame either lady, I blame production and the doctor making ‘good’ tv . I’d be pissed too if a professional helped me by not helping at all. Hope ur healthy, my daughter is borderline and it’s scares me sh*tless! Take care 💜💜🦇
Calling Jeanette's food disgusting and saying she wouldn't feed it to her dog is so unnecessarily barbed and contemptuous especially when you consider being a "foodie" is a privilege in itself. I believe there's an element of overcorrecting in her rejection of the greasy food - it's food that's regularly associated with the obese so in order to be one of the "good" fat people she unequivocally rejects the fast food and pushes it out of reach. I don't know if she sees that her childish behaviour is very insulting to the person sitting across from her but I can't blame Jeanette for biting back.
This makes so much sense
It seems sort of cruel to bring in wedding dresses that will not fit for “motivation”.
idk why, but that professional chef is giving classist vibes with the way she keeps turning her nose up at the cheap food
I remember the worst thing for my eating disorders (anorexia and bulimia) was weighing myself, measuring myself, and having to keep a food diary. By putting numbers on it and keeping track, I felt disgusted constantly. I'm 28 now, I'm a healthy size, but I have no idea what I weigh and I don't keep track of what I eat. I get weighed at the drs and they don't tell me what it says, just tells me if there's an issue. This last year I was able to buy a full length mirror for the first time, it's freestanding because somedays I need to turn it around, but most days I can look in it. By not having numbers or a track record to compare against, I keep my sanity and just take every day one at a time
🤢 the way they film everything with that overexposed filter... so gross.. also, Rosemary is being such a brat about the whole experience. It's so disappointing to see one person trying their hardest to follow the plan, and the other person just poo-pooing the entire process. I get it. You're a chef, but you're on the show for a reason, so maybe just give it a chance? Anyway, I'm so glad to catch another gem of a video by my favorite youtuber!
thankyou lovely! yes it’s designed to make you feel repulsed!
Thinking about that time Laverne Cox and Carmen Carrera went on a daytime talk show together. Katie Couric asked them if they had bottom surgery in less than polite terms. Those poor women were trying to explain that is not polite to ask. At the time, I thought it was incredibly rude and it made me uncomfortable to see how uncomfortable those women were. The state of other people’s genitals is none of other’s people’s business unless they are planning to have sex with them.
gosh that was a tough watch wasn’t it…
@@Luxeria I was excited to see the two of them at the time because I liked Orange is the New Black and RuPaul’s Drag Race. Then seeing the two of them asked embarrassing questions on tv…
so frustrating!!
Normalize bluntly asking transphobes about THEIR genitals!
(Actually, no, let's just not ask anyone about those, please!!)
That's the point though isn't it - as a CIS female who naturally looks very girly, no one has EVER asked me about my genitals. I don't understand why trans people, or even CIS people who don't present in a gender normative way are seen so regularly being interrogated about what's in their pants!
As a society we tend to think better of people who are thin, and placing someone obese with a “super skinny” might bring out feelings of inferiority. May be why we’ve seen so many of the “supersize” participants almost bully the “super skinny” and why Rosemarie was acting as if the only thing she could eat was 5 star meals.
I have watch several episode and most of the time i feel its the opposite, like the skinny people making critic of how fat their diet are and not making a lot of effort
This is such a toxic show. I wouldn't be surprised if the people who pitched it wanted them to bully each other for the drama.
I felt very uncomfortable at 'the girls are enjoying themselves.' I need an adult 😢
honestly a ludicrous section 💀💀
@@Luxeria you know it's bad when adults need an adult lol. Thanks for sitting through the scandal for us!
Watching these with Luxeria is a bit like therapy for my inner teenager that would starve herself while binge-watching these on TH-cam❤ Now I watch while enjoying my meal 🥰
Oh I hear ya! I used to put them (or 'you are what you eat') on first thing to get me good & triggered for the day... I didn't dare watch these vids cause I was like '.... Its going to hurt!' But I'm watching Luxeria with a sailboat size, loaded vegan toastie & the only reason I keep putting it down is cause I'm cracking up laughing!
Was eating durring this video and forgot about the feeding tube 🤮
i’m so sorry i forget every time 😂
Why did they waste so much food? That's what sickens me the most
SAME😭😭😭 the beans get me every time bc why do they have to drop it from that high and they splat🤢
This is my first time watching the show. The tube is so gross.
Same 😮 I had to take a break from my dinner
I’m Native American and that cutaway took me out 😂😂😂😂
Shes retuned the radar, girls 😂😂
🎯 TIRAMISU 🎯
Ive struggled with being underweight my whole life. For some reason my doctor never thought to check my thyroid until I was pregnant at 28 years old. I was so afraid I was going to lose all of the weight I gained with baby. I gained 52lbs and wanted to keep 20lbs at least. I stayed on the thyroid meds even after baby and I was able to keep the 20lbs on. I just dont understand how my doctor never thought to look at my thyroid before pregnancy when I was struggling to even be 100lbs my whole life.
honestly I quite despise that we have to be so so so insistent with doctors, when I first was on HRT so many doctors refused to help me - i finally found a really good GP and stayed with them for 10 years
There was a girl in my class who was like 145cm and 34kgs in 12th grade and for the life of her couldn't put on weight. My best friend was/is good friends with her so I know it wasn't an ED. She's a PhD in clinical nutrition now because guess what, it was a combination of metabolism and immune issues.
@@LuxeriaI could not agree with you more.
It goes both ways. It seems dr’s just don’t really care to do anything other than the 15 min reason you are there to get a drug to solve. Anything more and they just tell you nothing is wrong. You really have to advocate for yourself. I used to go with my mother and she with me to every dr apt so there was someone else there to talk to the dr and share what you may have forgotten. It helps to get the dr to do more than just shoo you away.
He's worried about the 'supersizer' not eating very much this week....but when they get fed the very small/nonexistent 'superskinny' portions normally that's fine? Make it make sense
Eating something however small is better for your body than eating nothing at all. Stomach acid levels rising and blood sugar drops are super dangerous.
Yeah, do you remember the episode where the superskinny guy didn’t eat for nearly 2 days? (He would smoke cigarettes instead of food, but thankfully they didn’t make the other guy smoke lol) - they didn’t gaf about it then
It's shocking that a doctor would allow this to go on. How does "Dr Christian" still have his medical licence?
Well I think Rosemarie may have told production she wasnt going to do the program half way through as they didnt do the pictures with her or the scary fat people in America segment they usually do... she was also very emotional/confrontational when Christian talked about her weight and being morbidly obese right at the start, they never showed her pictures of gout or whatever like they usually do either.
100% agree.
As far as I remember, they didn't do the American fat scare in the earlier seasons
"This is fetish content" - yes. the whole show. I can't think of any other explanation for this absolute fever dream.
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hello gorgeous!! 🐶
Sooooo I just looked it up and the general consensus among professionals is that on average, people fluctuate between 4-6 pounds per DAY!!!! 😮😮 So I'm sorry, but I don't comprehend the significance of her 2lb weight gain in those months. Jeanette definitely should have a proper, in-depth medical examination to see if, like Luxeria suggested, there could be something like a hormone imbalance going on.
I was obsessed with this show in the start of my ED , the worst episode for me was the torso plaster casts of ED patients. The anorexic girl fainted & then cried + refused to look at the mould taken. I really empathised with her especially at that time , seeing her being forced to “confront what she’s done to herself!” For views & drama made me so uneasy. I always skipped the ED sections bc they were just modern sideshows to gawk at it never did anything to dissuade me & so many girls in my bulimia therapy group watched that show. Can now say I’m nearly 6months purge free after a 12yr battle & 5K worth of dental care later (no thanks to nhs so if you’re bri’ish thinking dental might be covered bc you fucked yourself over nah you’re on your own )
thankyou for sharing your story lovely, it’s an aspect of body relationship that needs to be shared. Sending lots of love 🖤🖤🖤🖤
@@Luxeria omg I’m chosen ! Edit : sorry excitement- Yes ! I am loving these reactions like a lighthearted forcefield around what could be potentially triggering topics. I’m in a good place now , weirdly the dental work was the motivation needed to stop.❤️❤️
I also watched it in the height of my ED. I always thought as exploitative as it was, that it also left me feeling okay if I gained weight because it was the healthy thing to do. Over time I was able to obsess less about how skinny I was, and focus more on getting healthy habits.
Yeah still in it but mentally better by a small margin than before. I struggle to watch the Ed segments because they remind me of all the crazy stuff if did / how I used to behave when I was underweight and a lot more mentally delulu.
It’s tough to watch it thinking this is how I maybe acted and how I maybe looked. I actually started to remember more of that time as I slowly started to eat more and at least try to maintain minimally healthy. PSA for anyone that needs to hear it, I’ve lost actual memories and periods of time from restrictive eating and my eating disorder. It fucked with my brain and thinking that badly. I still don’t know what I looked like and I still don’t have a great grasp of my size. (Logically I know I’m thin, child size thin but I can’t see clearly through the body dysmorphia and anorexia).
No matter what body a person is in they deserve respect and to not be bullied on TV for everyone to see (or bullied in general).
The shots of the food gore make me gag every time.
I completely agree!
Also I feel like the diet swap makes no sense? Why not show them how to portion and manage time and choose healthy options in an encouraging way. Sure, get two people from opposite sides of the scale but give them separate diets and information and like... Idk? Get them to understand what to do to help in their journey, without embarrassment, starving/overeating, stress and anxiety! Higher levels of cortisol have a terrible effect on the body.
the thought crossed my mind, what if rosemary's a terrible chef? that rissotto looked too clumpy, and the mushrooms with the steak looks overcooked, and the ratatouille looked sloppy.
edit: she also seems insufferable. at least the other woman is making an effort. don't tell me she grew up eating all home cooked food. there's some deep seated mental issue there that needs to be addressed first
Also, lots of people don't like mushrooms, so it's not a great thing to serve to someone you don't know without asking them first.
@@kymberlys i hate shitake mushrooms!
When Luxeria said "Look at the metabolism chart" at 50:35... y'all WHAT IS THAT??? And there are spirals?? Why does it look like a medival map, complete with "here be dragons" and whatnot?
High school chemistry is when I decided not to pursue a career in biological science and switched to computer science instead lol. Is that why I'm overweight??? MAYBE!
Maybe the swirly bits are the Hapsburg family tree
Rosemary seems resistant to being on the same level as the other participant - as if she isn’t one herself and is somehow above the situation - so maybe some deep resistance to her own situation!? 💜
didn’t realize just quite how early i was. as for entitled people… my best friend in secondary school was considered “skinny” and one girl like felt entitled to touch her legs for no reason other than to point out that she was rather thin?! soo weird.
that’s so unacceptable!
I had people come up and circle my wrist with their fingers 😶
On the note of calorie "types," there is some evidence to suggest that many "quality" whole foods take more energy for the body to digest than heavily processed foods. In other words, extracting the calories from something like steak requires more caloric output than extracting the calories from a fried noodle, so the net calories absorbed from those whole foods may be lower than their full explosive potential.
Taking longer to digest can also leave you feeling fuller for longer, while simple starches that are already partially digested by the time they leave your mouth can digest quickly and leave you hungry and looking for a snack later.
Meanwhile, there's strong "anecdotal visual evidence" that a good portion of the calories in certain vegetables obviously aren't being fully utilized by the human body.
So while calories in calories out is a useful metric as a rough shorthand, it's not as though all calories in food are completely functionally equivalent.
I think one of the most insidious and pernicious aspects of this show is that there was an entire production company and broadcasting team that allowed this to not only be released, but run for SEVERAL. SEASONS. Gag
and even a kids version!
@@Luxeriaa WHAT NOW
WHAT?????@@Luxeria
The larger woman is gona make the smaller woman's eatin habit WORSE.😮
What is Rosemary's problem with the food she's been given? She literally handed Janette a croissant with bacon on it! Also, the baked potato with half a bag of grated cheese on top.
I got elitist/classist vibes, like Jamette's food seemed a little too common for her.
Yeah , being trans black and disable is an interesting mix. People constantly try to touch my hair.That's the most prevalent thing that people invade my privacy with so annoying.
What annoyed me more than anything else in this episode was the blase way they just wasted all that food. The food "connoisseur" cutting her nose off to spite her face and chucking everything in the binl. Absolutely hateful!
Right? All of them were awful but the one that really got me was the cheddar cheese toast. “I know the nutritional value of processed white bread” like she didn’t hand her a croissant with the exact same cheddar cheese and some bacon the other day
Have not thought about: "she pisses when she farts (...)" in a dogs age. Thank you for the chuckle
My nutritionist explained that dieting and healthy eating are not the same thing. Because being aware of how food affects you and being in tune with your hunger and fullness ques, is healthy eating.
She also explained that muscular men and skinny women are presented as being healthy.
Algorithm boost! 💙💙💙
You look lovely Luxeria! Hello from across the pond.🤗
thankyou lovely! 🖤🖤🖤
@@Luxeria 🤩
The big issue with this show was it never encouraged healthy, nourished eating, and this episode really emphasised that. Usually, it is 2 individuals who eat UPFs, just one too little and one too much. This time, the supersized person was actually eating really nourishing food, just too much of it. If they wanted to encourage healthy eating, they would have just reduced the amount she was eating but instead they forced her to eat junk food.
I never understood the aim of the diet swap. How will forcing a skinny person to eat, or starving a fat person help them to fix their relationship with food? Long term weight loss relies on changing your relationship with food and being active (not even the gym, just regular walking). Why did they not do that?
1:55 There is a big history about the "who should be seen in public" kind of thinking. It was literally written into law in the 1880s in Chicago, New Orleans, San Francisco and other US cities that certain people were not allowed to occupy public spaces and would be fined if they did. I won't go into detail as it's potentially upsetting. But for anyone interested you can read more by looking for 'ugly ordinances' or 'ugly laws'.
I used to watch these shows as a “motivation” to not let myself gain more weight. Now I see how “simple” yet “extreme” they made the weight journey. It is so much more complicated. I am autistic and have sensory issues with certain foods. I also don’t register when I am full. Never had, even as a child. Ive eaten to the point of being physically ill, yet still went back for more. Never seen any show address anything like those things. It’s all shock value and making the money. The dollar is above actually helping people and getting to the root of the food issues. All hail the powerful dollar.
Seeing my food mixed together like that would completely ruin my shaky appetite. Why tf would they do that to the thinner person? (I also just subscribed; Thank you, Luxeria!)
I've been overweight my whole life just about. Have struggled with EDs for 18 years now. Currently trying to fight off the beginning stages of a relapse. Truly thank you Luxeria for approaching this topic in such a delicate, yet informative way ❤️ the way you talk about this topic and everything that comes with it has been the least triggering or damaging for me personally to listen to
From what I've heard, Supersize vs Superskinny was popular with Anorexics.
Yes definitely. I binge watched this show when I was starving myself
Can confirm
Still is
Indeed it was, I was certainly guilty 😅
Yeah, it's one of the more grim aspects of the show
You're giving the same vibes as one of my favorite youtubers names Roly its so uncanny! Love this video!
That's why they are a good pair and good friends. They are very similar to eachother with their personalities and crazyness lol. When they do the uploads of both of them together it's so much fun
That metabolism chart is gnarly.
27:25 - AAHH I had that realisation about a year and a half ago 😭 “there’s always an explanation, not always an excuse” and it’s come in SO helpful for my own behaviour and that of those around me. I’m so glad you’ve had the same epiphany with slightly different wording 😂
The "homosexuaility " clip gagged me 😂😂😂
I’m always so glad when you bring up how important hormones are when it comes to weight control. I have underactive thyroid and it makes weight management so difficult.
P.s. When you said ‘going up and down buildings’ i pictured you Spiderman climbing up the outside of a building 😂
“I am looking forward to there being less of her!”
…ew ew ew. If anybody ever said that to me, they’d get that wish immediately by seeing nothing but my shadow as I walk out the door forever. What a disgusting thing to say about someone you claim to love.
There were 2 kinds of people in my life when I was obese; those who cared about how I looked, and those who cared about how I FELT. Guess who I kept in my life when I lost the weight?
I agree with you about the evolution of body positivity. As someone with chronic pain who has lost about 70 lbs so far from changing my diet and being more active, I have had people even in my personal life tell me that I should work on being 'happy with my body the way it is'. Being in crippling pain 24-7 is not positive. We cannot use absolutes like this and apply them to everyone.
I’m there with you sister. I have had chronic pain for over ten years and just getting my meds to work is a daily challenge. Not being able to get out of bed with crippling back neck and migraine pain, it’s hard to loose weight when you can’t even get up. Luckily my stress levels have gone down and it seems to correlate with my pain. Most days I’m lucky to feel happy let alone good enough to move. I did do the carnivore diet with my husband last year and lost 20 lbs. I tried ozempic and lost 15 lbs the first month nothing the second then stopped because I could not find joy and was having massive amounts of migraines. I’m hoping it leaves my body soon tho I hear it takes a while to exit. Mind health is terribly influenced when your body hurts.
Im autistic & have struggled with food my entire life. Im 28 & still do. cant stand the textures of fruit at all. And 90% of veg. I have the same meals every week or so.
All my life i have heard im unhealthy, im too skinny, im too picky etc etc. Its so nice and refreshing to see actual helpful, sensible commentary on these kinda of with individual issues with diets. Not ND i know but still showing that not 1 size fits all when it comes to these things like these shows we watched growing up made us think.
I'm also autistic and if you're not already familiar, you should look into ARFID (avoidant restrictive food intake disorder). I have a different profile than you but I recently started working with a dietitian who specializes in working with ppl who are neurodivergent. The progress is slow but it has been helpful.
For me it’s white bread and butter everyone seems to put so much butter it becomes soggy, runny cheese so disgusting textures are horrible. Like a simple ham sandwich becomes an event, like can’t do packet ham has to be proper ham from a market, packet ham is too wet and chewy.
I really hope that after this they looked into medical explanations for Janette's inability to gain weight, cos while she does look better, spray tan and make up aside. I would have expected 3x's the weight gain, assuming she followed a 2000cal diet plan.
And she says its been a life long issue, so unless shes been anorexic her whole life there's got to be something else going on.
Also hot damn did the just gloss over the clear class difference for these two women!
Can corroborate the thing about hormones, I lost almost 15 kg just by switching from an oral contraceptive to an IUD.
There’s also things like migraines that can massively affect weight. I have very severe migraines and you go through weird cycles during migraines where food can be mildly nauseating to downright revolting during an attack followed by intense cravings and extreme hunger afterwards. It makes your weight fluctuate all over the place, because your food intake is so irregular, you often don’t eat healthy and exercise during migraines is pretty much impossible or on the other end you might regurgitate food due to nausea.
Most prophylactic medications also have weight gain as a side effect, so meds and hormones definitely affect weight a lot.
Weren't calories those tiny creatures who sew the clothes tighter over night?😜
Another episode of Supersize? The show is absolutely vile but loving these recaps...
thankyou lovely! yes they take a lot to make 💀
I think Rosemary not eating might be a bigger problem than they make out. Im a very big girl and very easily slip into an all or nothing mindset. If relationships with food are bad either way you can swing to the otherside so easily. I lost a lot of weight but have slipped back and put it all back on. I fear it may go the other way again and lose too much . The battle is constant
I'm currently on a weight gain journey due to ill health and surgery. It's definitely not as easy as scoffing burgers!! Finding the balanced diet that is suitable for YOU highly resembles juggling 😂💜🦋
Cuddles to Mr Biscuit 🐾🐾
Edit, yeah being in a wheelchair seems to give people the impression that they have the right to ask intrusive and personal questions.. welcome to the freak show? I think not..
I feel like whomever the fashion designer was that started that "h3roin chic" model trend is to blame!!!
Omg I still struggle with that. Why do I feel like THAT looks good? Sickly and exhausted. Makes no sense.
From which decade are you referring, the beauty standard for a woman's weight seems to change every 10 yrs. Like a cycle; skinny, thick, voluptuous, skinny, thick, voluptuous ect...
@@amandamaples-uu7hh like I said. Who ever started it, whenever they did.
THANK YOU for your 100% sensible take on what body positivity has become vs. what it should be 🙌 FAAAAR too many people are afraid of being "canceled" by deluded angry mobs to say it.
I have issues with food due to chronic nausea. What's more important than maintaining my weight is making sure I don't have any nutritional deficiencies, which is something that's never mentioned. You can be lacking important nutrients at any size.
if I saw someone in the street with a sign that said "ban big bums" and who was SHOUTING that I would have a hard time not yelling back at them to shut the f*ck up or ask why they're so threatened by other people's bodies. I love the sensible takes throughout this video, Luxeria, I don't think I could handle watching this without your commentary. My favorite takeaway this time is "you can't heal in the same situation that is harming you" - SO TRUE, sensible AF. Also LOVE that you included the metabolism biochemistry mechanisms chart like whoa sis I knew it was complex but I did not understand the scale hahaha, incredible!! I love that we have people working on refining our understanding the biochemical processes of human metabolism, as weird as that sentence strikes me haha :D Science at me any time!
@25:46 “That’s actually only about 300 grams.” Newsflash: one ounce is thirty grams, and a portion of meat is meat to be three ounces, or ninety grams. That means she’s cooking a ten-ounce steak that’s meant to be feeding three people and then some. That’s not a “modest size” woman, that’s FOOD FOR THREE!
The smallest steaks in the supermarkets are 227g. 100 grams is tiny. The NHS says an 8oz grilled steak is a portion.
Are you meaning cooked or uncooked?
@@littleboots9800 that’s just what I was told was a portion. Might be different in the UK, that’s what it is here in the USA. A serving of meat here is considered three ounces.
@@rosevanillaberrychocolate5170 if anything US portions would be bigger, but as it is the US sells steak in 8oz, 12oz and 16oz sizes. (Steak is referred to by its uncooked weight.)
It would be impossible to cook a 100g steak properly. By the time you got a good sear on the outside the middle would be overcooked, that's why steaks are rarely seen in smaller sizes.
3oz is ludicrously small. An average chicken breast is 6-8oz. No one eats half a chicken breast.
The metabolism table+the music is giving Westoros 😂
You know, the fiance is insufferable but Rosemary has been too. It's awfully difficult to have empathy for someone acting so cruel. I guess they framed it that she was being a bit nicer, it was pretty unpleasant.
I'm sorry, this isn't food you'd normally eat? That's the whole point of the show..?? The other person is also eating food they'd never have eaten otherwise, that is the whole concept! Her look of contempt makes me want to scream. What an insufferable person.
"Millennial Healing," is the perfect description for the feeling I get rewatching these shows from those times with Luxeria's modern and compassionate commentary and the satisfaction of her yelling at people who were treating others abominably.
I also hate BAKED BEANS, I thought it was only me!
The smell 🤮
You're not alone. They are vile.
I'm a very new subscriber who stayed for your personality. I've been binge watching your videos and then in this one you talk about of my favorite things....She's a Final Fantasy Girlie!!!! Also, before I got pregnant, I finally got down to my Step One Goal weight. At my heaviest, I was 205. I got down to 140 in 5 months. The last time I tried to lose weight, I couldn't get down past 170, no matter what I tried. Even while Pregnant, and being a bottomless pit as my pregnancy started as a twin pregnancy, my heaviest weight was 190. I always had a weird and fucked up relationship with food, due to childhood trauma. Finally worked through it, and it became easier to make better lifestyle choices.
My sincerest condolences to the crew member who has to clean those tubes 🤢
I feel for Jeanette. I struggle with not feeling hungry and having to force myself to eat. At one point I was severely underweight and decided what I ate didn't matter, I just need to eat something. I only reached what I consider a healthy weight when I went on a medication where one of the side effects is increased appetite.
I thought the whole starvation mode thing had been disproven and that it would take a long time for it to actually happen
I came to TH-cam to find ASMR to sleep to but I guess I'll watch this instead because you just don't scroll past a new video from Luxeria
I just love your energy so much. I wish we could be friends for real 😆 you have such a creative way of expressing yourself
thankyou lovely 😂 it’s mostly ADHD
@@Luxeria haha that was exactly the part that made me write my comment!
Also neurodivergent and baked beans are the number one food aversion of mine, they are REPULSIVE and if one touches me I’m certain I’ll combust
Can’t stand them when opened the tin smells awful but but love them hot
I cannot eat mashed potatoes, I cannot stand the texture. I ate them as a child because I had to, but as an adult I haven't touched them.
@@heathergarnham9555 yea makes me feel sick also
I need that woman to stop saying SUCKED. I am queer and have been ruined by the internet 😂
The tiramisu lady always makes me smile. Her joy over dessert is contagious. 🥰😂
What in the super WTF happened in the first 5 seconds of this video ? Anyways ready to watch this next hope not that horrific episode of the torture people show!
honestly just wait 💀💀💀
Omg!... "You are never going to be able to heal in the same situation that hurts you"....I really felt. 🥺🥺 Thanks Ms Luxeria ❤❤
Our queen Luxeria, healing our millennial food and body image trauma one TV episode at a time ❤👑
When my daughter had anorexia (ages 16-23) and spent time in residential care, when she came home, I was given a really basic way of feeding her. At dinner it was either 3/4 of a cup or a cup of protein and the same of carbs and vegetables. Breakfast was cereal with homogenised milk or an alternative equivalent, a cup of juice, a cup of yoghurt, lunch was a filled roll or sandwich type thing, juice and yoghurt and then morning tea, afternoon tea and supper and we were a guideline of what constituted a "snack." This was a lot of food but she needed it and, for me, it was the same as at CREDS so it was harder for her to argue that I was overdoing it. Gosh it was exhausting and, in actual fact, the purpose was really to keep her alive for long enough until she recovered enough cognitively to be invested in recovering herself.
Idc how long ago this episode was I need that absolute goddess of a woman to call off the damn wedding STAT bc I'd absolutely treat her so much better than that monster of a man like how do you talk like that about someone you're going to MARRY
in reference to my PCOS and weight loss, my doctor said to me 'its a reason but it's not an excuse' and i've carried that with me for 10 years
These are like “learning with luxeria” I feel like I always learn something new with your videos and love me/my body more 💓💓✨
I absolutely LIVED for this show back in the day! No wonder I got issues 😂