Ahahahahaha I seriously lol’d… 😂😂😂 I just need a more soothing voice, a magical touch and most important of all a very sleek fro lol 😆. Bob Ross was a genius of his craft and I take your comparison as a huge compliment my friend. Thank you for the laugh and the kind comparison. Cheers my friend!!! 👨🎨👨🎨👨🎨🙌🙌🙌
Hey Frank! Thanks so much for the kind words and support my friend… I really do hope I am able to give people good value and information out of my videos. Thanks again and cheers!
Hey there again Jesse! Wow… I actually didn’t know that haha. I love that people are sharing good info on the channel 🙌🙌🙌. Would be cool to see quantum bring out a Haibo bfs reel but I think the braking system was trademarked by Ark and so that might cause some issues? In any case, I bet those quantum reels are pretty good. Cheers my friend!
I've been using my new Haibo Air for the last few trips. It feels smoother than my Acura. I'd say its the closest best feeling to the JDM reels that I have.
Hey Brazilian! That’s awesome to hear! I wonder if you got an arise with the updated main gear and pinion 🤔. Mine is smooth but just not as smooth as the Acura I have. In any case, I do agree that the reel feels like it is at the very least the level of say a daiwa tatula or similar tier reels but at a much more affordable price and much more capable in bfs terms. Anyhow, awesome to hear you’re enjoying yours and cheers my friend!
Thanks for the awesome work! If it wasn’t for you I probably would have never go into bfs fishing, so once again thanks for all the work you put in these videos!
Hey Ricky! Thanks so much for the kind words and support! I’m glad you’re able to get value and information out these videos my friend. Thank you again for the support and cheers!
Haha hey David! Thank you so much for the kind words… very humbling… I hope you’re able to get good value and information out of these videos as that’s my goal with this channel. Thanks so much as always and cheers!
Hey Paul! I’m not sure why I didn’t respond to your comment… odd… I’m not quite sure about the external sizing but I did remeasure that internal bearing size and I got a slightly larger size of 2.89 and the spool shaft at 2.99mm so… I wonder if my calipers are just not centered correctly and the ID is actually 3mm. Not sure… I have some bearings on order so I’ll report back. Cheers my friend!
@@FishingDiscoveries hey Paul! Thanks so much! It’ll probably be a long video because I want to shed so much info on the reel haha. Get ready to be bored by info overload!!! 😂😂😂 cheers my friend!
Great tear down video! Do the brake shoes where the magnets sit have a proper moving orientation for the left handed model, if the design is similar to the Shimano FTB?
Hey Duke! Wow. Amazing question that I completely overlooked!!! I’ll check on that and report back to you. I have a feeling the brakes work as intended but definitely something that I missed. Thank you for suggesting to take a look at that! Cheers my friend!
@@DK77201 no no thank you! I would have just looked this over. The faux ftb oversight for LH DWU and similar reels was quite a disappointment. While they fixed these issues it was a bit of a let down so I would also like to confirm that these reels are done correctly. Cheers to you my friend for bringing up a very good point!
Very well made and informative video, thank you! Do you know the size of handle if its swappable to something else. Also may I ask measure of that spoon tension knob?
Hey Chris! Thank you so much for the kind words! I am more than happy to get you some measurements. I’m surprised so many folks are interested in seemingly obscure measurements but I think I need to update the description to provide this info to everyone. Anyhow, the handle shaft length is approx 27mm. The handle had 1 shim 0.1mm thick and the handle shaft diameter is 4mm. The knobs have two bearings 472 size. The spool tension knob inner thread diameter was approx 12.47mm. The height is 8mm and the outer diameter is about 16mm. Hope that helps and cheers my friend!
@@chrisuk517 awesome to hear Chris! Haha it’s my pleasure. I get to talk to folks from all over and help them in whatever little way I can. It truly is a pleasure to do so. Thanks so much for also sharing and please let me know what your thoughts are on the reel! Cheers my friend!
Hey Steve! The knobs are definitely removable but you will need to get something thin enough and strong enough to remove the knob caps. It’s doable but it’s kind of a pain… I opted to go the simpler route and just swapped the handle altogether but I was able to remove one of the handle knobs before deciding to go that route. A small screwdriver should be able to fit in the opening in the knob cap. Hope that helps! Cheers!
Hey Vue! I actually did notice that yesterday haha. Funnily enough the original aliexpress shop I bought the reel from was told not to ship this reel to the US. I believe what’s happening is Haibo is the OEM for Ark and their gravity reels. The gravity reels look to be essentially Arise reels in a different looking body. The Gravity reels aren’t quite BFS reels and have slightly inferior specs to the arise air and have a higher price. I’d still take this arise air over those reels if you can get a hold of one and are in the US. Apparently, Ark has patented the brake design which is interesting to me because I am guessing that Haibo is their OEM. Anywho, thanks so much for bringing this to my attention and cheers my friend!
Any luck finding replacement bearings? I have a Haibo 23 Air and would love to get some ceramics but after watching this video, I checked up on ordering any stock #7 bearings thanks to you! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!
Hey original! So sorry for the late response! I do believe that roro has the right sizes for bearings for the arise but… after replacing them I didn’t find a big improvement in casting distance. I think 1-2 ft extra iirc. Imho, the stock bearings are adequate! Thanks so much for stopping by and supporting the channel! Cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL Thanks for the reply. I skateboard/longboard, so I was all set to go down the bearing rabbit hole to improve the casting but after reading your thoughtful reply, I won't bother. Thanks again and keep up the good work! *Btw, if I wanted one those 3, 9", fiberglass, SLOW action, casting rods like we see in those flick-casting videos from Japan, where would be a good place to start? They seem rather scarce for something so awesome.
Hey original! Hm for a slow glass rod you’d probably want to look at a solid glass rod but… it might be too much of a noodle haha. If you want what I consider a good all around glass rod for flick casting then you can look at the dankung glassfin, or the aioushi unidirectional glass rods on aliexpress. Glassfin can be found on dankung.com has a bit questionable build quality but is the fastest s-glass CDM rod I’ve found so far. The aioushi is a close second. Imho, stay away from the noodles lol… unless you really want a noodle. If that’s the case then the lemoren windshadow might be the rod for you. If you want a link I can try to find where I purchased these rods but they will be affiliate links aside from the dankung rod. Hope that helps and cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL Thank you, so much! I found both rods. Already knew about the DanKung from your review and I found the Aioushi with Google. Thank you, again. Any opinion on the Taigek/Rancy D1?
Hey there Jesse! I agree! Getting to see the internals and the quality of the internal components definitely tells a lot about the quality of the reel. It’s not the whole story but it’s an important piece of the puzzle for sure. Plus, it helps folks who might want to do some maintenance on their particular reel down the road. Thanks for the kind words and cheers to you my friend!
Think you are going to be pleased with the casting. No chance to fish yet, but I'm gonna try the Air on the Tsu Clever rod and my Kuying Teton to learn more about setting the brakes. Only surprise with your teardown was the bearing/bushing combo?? Always great vids. Thank you. Consideration now is whether to tell wife about wanting to buy Elite ... 🤔
Hey cal! You know… I am super tempted to get an elite… but… so much money haha. Yea I was surprised actually at that bearing… I’m not quite sure if there are ceramics that can be sourced for that size but I think??? It’s a 632? Not quite sure… I’ll check as I have one on order but I have a feeling it’s not the right size… cheers my friend!
You do know the 80 rated size Arise Elite is still cheaper for me than a 22 Aldebaran! 😂 Great work with the bearing research. Looking forward to what you find. Tried the Air with the Tsu Clever c552ul last evening about a half hour before dark. Humid w/light winds, I still had problems w/loading under 3g. Brakes are a pita for old guy using lite lines. However, really do like the design of the external brake knob. Less chance accidentally changing the setting for right hander like me when shifting hands, which is an issue with the Acura. I did notice that I may be having problems with tension. After catch a fish, always have problem with overruns next few casts. Line is not smoothly out-flowing the reel?? Anyway, if possible will switch to the Teton 662l today and try to gather some more input. Good news! Crappie were biting last night. Bass, cautious and not so much. 🤣Cheers.
Hey cal! The brakes do take a bit of getting used to, especially will all of the settings due to the three rotor positions. What rotor position are you using for your 3g weight ooc? Cheers my friend!
Now this was last evening actually throwing 2g. Started at default setting which I believe was rotor II. That was not good, best setting was max external of rotor II but still overwrapping. So shifted to rotor III at max external and worked down from throwing about 10 ft. max external. Got down to III min external and started with the bird nests again. Still working to get away for another try this eve. Did switch to 3g just for last few tosses seemed better, but honestly not much different. Do appreciate the support.
@@calcovington8716 hey cal! Hmm… I think I understand what you’re saying. The reel does seem to need a lot more braking for heavier lures. I haven’t yet tried anything in the 3g range just 0.6g and 1g. I’ll try out 3.5g today and see what I experience but I think I will probably be mirroring your experience with needing to increase the braking setting as well. Anywho, cheers my friend and look forward to your findings!
hello, can you tell me the size of the spool bearings for me to order roro bearings? I just ordered the arise air thanks to you, you convinced me 😉😁 Nicolas.
Hey Nicolas! Amazing to hear! One of the bearings is a 742. The other is a very unusual size that I have not quite seen yet. It is very close to a 632 but I am not sure if it will be an exact match as the inner diameter is different. I have a bearing on order and will check. Thank you and cheers!
Thanks my friend! Yea very odd indeed. I have the only size that’s closest available on order but I feel like the ID won’t match up… we’ll see though… Will keep on keepin on 🙌🙌🙌. Cheers!
Sure it's not 3mm inner diameter? I have a similar caliper and measuring small inner diameters becomes a little erroneous due to the shape and offset of the tool. Anyway, maybe you could just measure the spoil shaft thickness as it has to fit inside the bearing.
@@gostagos6143 hey gostago! I measured a few times and kept getting 2.75mm oddly. Your idea of measuring the spool shaft is a good one though and I can definitely try that out. Will report back in a bit! Cheers and thanks for that suggestion!
@@gostagos6143 reporting back with the spool shaft diameter. The shaft has two thickness near that bearing. The outermost diameter is the thickest at around 2.98mm and then it tapers down towards the middle of the spool to around 2.75mm. I measured the ID of the bearing again and I was getting 2.88/2.89mm. So… I’m not sure if this is just a 632 bearing? I have a few on order and will report back on this… the spool bearing itself is a 472 bearing. Hope that helps and thanks again for that measurement suggestion!
Hey Adrian! Thank you for the words of encouragement my friend. I really do hope that I am able to help bring information and knowledge to folks in as unbiased a manner as possible. Just trying to help people make good decisions with their hard earned money. Cheers my friend and thank you as always!
Hey Jinsuo! I’ve noticed a bit of line lay issues as well. Wondering if the worm shaft is shimmed incorrectly. Line tends to bunch up towards the sideplate. Can you explain where the carriage screw is loose? My reel seems to have smoothened up a bit but I’m wondering if it’s because I tore the reel down and then tightened some screws up. Unsure… cheers my friend!
@@jinsuozhang9432 right on! Yea that’s exactly what my findings were as well. The line lay is slightly off center… not a huge deal I think but a bit of an oversight on their part. Cheers my friend!
Hey izya! I have a few at my disposal currently. Shimano dura-ace which is actually meant for mountain bikes but has really great gear grease properties, Superlube which is affordable in the states and works well, Deuthlon(have not tried yet), iOS grease seems to work well but I need to look into this more, CastX(have not yet used this), and Ardent reel butter(have not used this yet). So far of the ones I have used they all seem to perform well enough but I do feel that superlube needs to be replaced a bit sooner than the Shimano and iOS grease. To be honest, I think the differences between greases will likely be minute and I’d suggest using what you have and maintaining and cleaning your reel frequently. I’ll try to do a video on greases soon. Cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL thank you! I use divinol 😊 now, but want buy good grease for micro module on my Shimano and Haibo, but do not know what to buy Shimano DG4 or Zpi Medium
@@Izya__ if you want to stick with Shimano grease and want their lightest version try searching for Shimano ACE-0. It used to be sold as dg01. Cheers my friend!
Hey tuukeya! If you’re referring to Haibo vs Kastking it’s hard to say. This is the only Haibo reel I’ve ever held in hand and looked at. While I really do think this reel has great performance it’s not without it’s own cons. I’ll go over that in a video soon. Because of this I can’t really say one pays more attention to detail. What I can say is that the components on the Haibo are better and that a lot of the build quality seems to be very good. Anyhow, sorry I can’t just give you a solid answer. I am just trying to be as transparent as possible. Cheers my friend!
Hi Alfa! Yes this has a pinion support bearing. The main shaft of the reel is also supported by a bearing at the base and by the handle bearing. Hope that helps! This is a 11+1 bearing reel. Cheers!
At the end you talked and showed a reel said is good but didn't say what is was. Is it a seasir cast-x? You also talked about fishing these, do you have another channel showing this?
Hey sidewinder! The reel I briefly showed at the end is the Soloking Acura. Likely that was the old version as this video is a bit older now. As far as fishing videos go you’re correct in that you don’t see many. In the interest of time and my sanity/enjoyment of fishing I tend to not make actual fishing videos as the observations there are almost purely subjective. I had a long time struggling on whether or not to make fishing videos and I’ve sort of started to give in with a few on the channel. These videos also take considerably more time to edit for me so they often get backed up in the queue. As it stands, I have a good handful that I need to edit so you may see some coming out soon. In these videos, I don’t concentrate on fishing and instead concentrate on casting various lure weights to give you guys an idea of what to expect. That being said, it’s still 100% subjective and catered to my setup and my casting abilities and other environmental factors so… my casting videos all need to be taken with that into consideration. Unfortunately, my channel isn’t really geared towards the entertainment side of things and more on the educational and informational side so I aim to try to be as objective as possible. I hope that makes sense and that you understand a bit more of the goals of the channel and why there aren’t all that many actual on the water videos but you should see more shortly. Thanks so much for your patience and understanding with this as it’s really been a challenge for me haha. I am but an amateur video editor with limited time(aren’t we all though…). Anyhow, thanks so much for the question and cheers my friend!
Hey fire! Hm I think unfortunately it is not =\. The bearings are not listed as being salt resistant. The only CDM bfs reels I know of off the top of my head that are salt resistant are the Soloking Acura pro and the FFFtackle FF01 Kingfisher and FF01 cormorant reels. Hope that helps and cheers my friend! ^^
👍🏻👍🏻 my friend...was this a CDM reel?..if it was it is the top of the line in its market...good to know our friends in china developing a quality product...i have question my friend, do the gear has precise cutting like we micromodules of shimano or digicut like daiwa? 😅😁😁
Hey Irvin! This is indeed a CDM reel. I do not know if it is considered too if the line but it is fairly high I believe. As far as your question about the gear machining it does appear to look like the machining is very good. Is it similar to micromodule or digigear I am not sure as Shimano and daiwas marketing doesn’t quite explain what they’ve actually done to make their gears considered micromodule or digigear. The gears of this reel are smooth with a hint of roughness most likely coming from an improperly shimmed worm shaft. I will try to shim mine correctly and see if that improves the smoothness. That being said it is smooth. I wish I could somehow convey what I mean but words and video can only do so much… hope that helps though and cheers!
Hey Joseph! I wonder if your aliexpress language is set to Spanish or possibly the location you have set is a Spanish location? If you’re referring to the affiliate links they should be in English. Let me know if you keep having issues. Thanks and cheers!
I’m logged in on my app ive bought plenty of bfs reels and rods when I click on the link in your video it pops up but everything is in Spanish. Not sure why I’m trying to purchase a harbor air myself at the moment
@@josephmorin1098 interesting it appears the second link I posted for some reason their title is in Spanish. The description is in English though for me. The first link I just checked is in English.
Hey Abel! Haha yea it’s not a looker for sure… there are some angles that aren’t too bad but that asymmetrical top view is a bit meh… that aside the reel is actually quite nice so if you can get over the looks then imho you have a very nice well made well spec’d reel for the money. In my limited casting tests it’s not too bad either. It doesn’t quite like 0.6g as much as my 22’ Aldebaran bfs with a KKR spool or my Soloking Acura with roro bearings but it is completely stock and performing at about 90-95% of what those reels are getting in terms of distance. Quite respectable. I tested 1g and wow does it shine there. I’d say performance is equal to the other two mentioned reels. I need to do some more back to back testing but it’s a solid performer so far. PS if you’re in the states and are on the fence in getting one my suggestion is to decide soon as it seems like they’re selling out fast but also the shop I purchased from will no longer sell to the states for certain reasons. Go look at the Ark gravity and I think you’ll understand why. Hope that helps and cheers my friend!
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You starting to become the bob ross of teardowns 😅 very informative and fast. Watched it twice
Ahahahahaha I seriously lol’d… 😂😂😂 I just need a more soothing voice, a magical touch and most important of all a very sleek fro lol 😆. Bob Ross was a genius of his craft and I take your comparison as a huge compliment my friend. Thank you for the laugh and the kind comparison. Cheers my friend!!! 👨🎨👨🎨👨🎨🙌🙌🙌
Nice work Peter, this was great. Paul.
Thanks Paul!!! Much appreciated my friend. Been really enjoying this reel so far. Cheers 🙌🙌🙌
This is a very comprehensive teardown. Thank you for very informative video.
Hey Frank! Thanks so much for the kind words and support my friend… I really do hope I am able to give people good value and information out of my videos. Thanks again and cheers!
Haibo makes low profiles for quantum . (Smoke, tour pt. Iron pt) and all of those reels are great!
Hey there again Jesse! Wow… I actually didn’t know that haha. I love that people are sharing good info on the channel 🙌🙌🙌. Would be cool to see quantum bring out a Haibo bfs reel but I think the braking system was trademarked by Ark and so that might cause some issues? In any case, I bet those quantum reels are pretty good. Cheers my friend!
I've been using my new Haibo Air for the last few trips. It feels smoother than my Acura. I'd say its the closest best feeling to the JDM reels that I have.
Hey Brazilian! That’s awesome to hear! I wonder if you got an arise with the updated main gear and pinion 🤔. Mine is smooth but just not as smooth as the Acura I have. In any case, I do agree that the reel feels like it is at the very least the level of say a daiwa tatula or similar tier reels but at a much more affordable price and much more capable in bfs terms. Anyhow, awesome to hear you’re enjoying yours and cheers my friend!
Thanks for the awesome work! If it wasn’t for you I probably would have never go into bfs fishing, so once again thanks for all the work you put in these videos!
Hey Ricky! Thanks so much for the kind words and support! I’m glad you’re able to get value and information out these videos my friend. Thank you again for the support and cheers!
Nice video! Thanks again for sharing some great information. #BFSFISHINGCHANNEL ROCKS!
Haha hey David! Thank you so much for the kind words… very humbling… I hope you’re able to get good value and information out of these videos as that’s my goal with this channel. Thanks so much as always and cheers!
Also, do you think that a bearing with the same external sizing as the spacer could be found? Slightly odd internal diameter mind you...
Hey Paul! I’m not sure why I didn’t respond to your comment… odd… I’m not quite sure about the external sizing but I did remeasure that internal bearing size and I got a slightly larger size of 2.89 and the spool shaft at 2.99mm so… I wonder if my calipers are just not centered correctly and the ID is actually 3mm. Not sure… I have some bearings on order so I’ll report back. Cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL Look forward to your further explorations!
@@FishingDiscoveries hey Paul! Thanks so much! It’ll probably be a long video because I want to shed so much info on the reel haha. Get ready to be bored by info overload!!! 😂😂😂 cheers my friend!
Great tear down video! Do the brake shoes where the magnets sit have a proper moving orientation for the left handed model, if the design is similar to the Shimano FTB?
Hey Duke! Wow. Amazing question that I completely overlooked!!! I’ll check on that and report back to you. I have a feeling the brakes work as intended but definitely something that I missed. Thank you for suggesting to take a look at that! Cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL Thank you. 😀
@@DK77201 no no thank you! I would have just looked this over. The faux ftb oversight for LH DWU and similar reels was quite a disappointment. While they fixed these issues it was a bit of a let down so I would also like to confirm that these reels are done correctly. Cheers to you my friend for bringing up a very good point!
Very well made and informative video, thank you! Do you know the size of handle if its swappable to something else. Also may I ask measure of that spoon tension knob?
Hey Chris! Thank you so much for the kind words! I am more than happy to get you some measurements. I’m surprised so many folks are interested in seemingly obscure measurements but I think I need to update the description to provide this info to everyone.
Anyhow, the handle shaft length is approx 27mm. The handle had 1 shim 0.1mm thick and the handle shaft diameter is 4mm. The knobs have two bearings 472 size.
The spool tension knob inner thread diameter was approx 12.47mm. The height is 8mm and the outer diameter is about 16mm.
Hope that helps and cheers my friend!
Thank you !! I ordered one and I want to customize it just a little. Anyways thank you for giving so much time and effort to write everyone.
@@chrisuk517 awesome to hear Chris! Haha it’s my pleasure. I get to talk to folks from all over and help them in whatever little way I can. It truly is a pleasure to do so. Thanks so much for also sharing and please let me know what your thoughts are on the reel! Cheers my friend!
Any idea how you get the handles off. I have some spare Shimano knobs and wondered if they will fit. Thanks.
Hey Steve! The knobs are definitely removable but you will need to get something thin enough and strong enough to remove the knob caps. It’s doable but it’s kind of a pain… I opted to go the simpler route and just swapped the handle altogether but I was able to remove one of the handle knobs before deciding to go that route. A small screwdriver should be able to fit in the opening in the knob cap. Hope that helps! Cheers!
Have you looked at ark gravity g5 reel?. It looks like it uses the same brake system.
Hey Vue! I actually did notice that yesterday haha. Funnily enough the original aliexpress shop I bought the reel from was told not to ship this reel to the US. I believe what’s happening is Haibo is the OEM for Ark and their gravity reels. The gravity reels look to be essentially Arise reels in a different looking body. The Gravity reels aren’t quite BFS reels and have slightly inferior specs to the arise air and have a higher price. I’d still take this arise air over those reels if you can get a hold of one and are in the US. Apparently, Ark has patented the brake design which is interesting to me because I am guessing that Haibo is their OEM. Anywho, thanks so much for bringing this to my attention and cheers my friend!
Thanks for sharing.
Looks good.
Now mine just needs to arive.
Our South African postal service is terrible!
Hey wildwind! Fingers crossed your postal service gets their act together! Thanks for commenting and for your support. Cheers my friend!
Any luck finding replacement bearings? I have a Haibo 23 Air and would love to get some ceramics but after watching this video, I checked up on ordering any stock #7 bearings thanks to you! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!
Hey original! So sorry for the late response! I do believe that roro has the right sizes for bearings for the arise but… after replacing them I didn’t find a big improvement in casting distance. I think 1-2 ft extra iirc. Imho, the stock bearings are adequate! Thanks so much for stopping by and supporting the channel! Cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL Thanks for the reply. I skateboard/longboard, so I was all set to go down the bearing rabbit hole to improve the casting but after reading your thoughtful reply, I won't bother. Thanks again and keep up the good work! *Btw, if I wanted one those 3, 9", fiberglass, SLOW action, casting rods like we see in those flick-casting videos from Japan, where would be a good place to start? They seem rather scarce for something so awesome.
Hey original! Hm for a slow glass rod you’d probably want to look at a solid glass rod but… it might be too much of a noodle haha. If you want what I consider a good all around glass rod for flick casting then you can look at the dankung glassfin, or the aioushi unidirectional glass rods on aliexpress. Glassfin can be found on dankung.com has a bit questionable build quality but is the fastest s-glass CDM rod I’ve found so far. The aioushi is a close second. Imho, stay away from the noodles lol… unless you really want a noodle. If that’s the case then the lemoren windshadow might be the rod for you. If you want a link I can try to find where I purchased these rods but they will be affiliate links aside from the dankung rod. Hope that helps and cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL Thank you, so much! I found both rods. Already knew about the DanKung from your review and I found the Aioushi with Google. Thank you, again. Any opinion on the Taigek/Rancy D1?
Best videos are tear down videos… brass tax right there. These Haibos are winners Imvho.
Hey there Jesse! I agree! Getting to see the internals and the quality of the internal components definitely tells a lot about the quality of the reel. It’s not the whole story but it’s an important piece of the puzzle for sure. Plus, it helps folks who might want to do some maintenance on their particular reel down the road. Thanks for the kind words and cheers to you my friend!
Think you are going to be pleased with the casting. No chance to fish yet, but I'm gonna try the Air on the Tsu Clever rod and my Kuying Teton to learn more about setting the brakes. Only surprise with your teardown was the bearing/bushing combo?? Always great vids. Thank you. Consideration now is whether to tell wife about wanting to buy Elite ... 🤔
Hey cal! You know… I am super tempted to get an elite… but… so much money haha. Yea I was surprised actually at that bearing… I’m not quite sure if there are ceramics that can be sourced for that size but I think??? It’s a 632? Not quite sure… I’ll check as I have one on order but I have a feeling it’s not the right size… cheers my friend!
You do know the 80 rated size Arise Elite is still cheaper for me than a 22 Aldebaran! 😂
Great work with the bearing research. Looking forward to what you find. Tried the Air with the Tsu Clever c552ul last evening about a half hour before dark. Humid w/light winds, I still had problems w/loading under 3g. Brakes are a pita for old guy using lite lines. However, really do like the design of the external brake knob. Less chance accidentally changing the setting for right hander like me when shifting hands, which is an issue with the Acura. I did notice that I may be having problems with tension. After catch a fish, always have problem with overruns next few casts. Line is not smoothly out-flowing the reel?? Anyway, if possible will switch to the Teton 662l today and try to gather some more input. Good news! Crappie were biting last night. Bass, cautious and not so much. 🤣Cheers.
Hey cal! The brakes do take a bit of getting used to, especially will all of the settings due to the three rotor positions. What rotor position are you using for your 3g weight ooc? Cheers my friend!
Now this was last evening actually throwing 2g. Started at default setting which I believe was rotor II. That was not good, best setting was max external of rotor II but still overwrapping. So shifted to rotor III at max external and worked down from throwing about 10 ft. max external. Got down to III min external and started with the bird nests again. Still working to get away for another try this eve. Did switch to 3g just for last few tosses seemed better, but honestly not much different. Do appreciate the support.
@@calcovington8716 hey cal! Hmm… I think I understand what you’re saying. The reel does seem to need a lot more braking for heavier lures. I haven’t yet tried anything in the 3g range just 0.6g and 1g. I’ll try out 3.5g today and see what I experience but I think I will probably be mirroring your experience with needing to increase the braking setting as well. Anywho, cheers my friend and look forward to your findings!
hello, can you tell me the size of the spool bearings for me to order roro bearings? I just ordered the arise air thanks to you, you convinced me 😉😁
Nicolas.
Hey Nicolas! Amazing to hear! One of the bearings is a 742. The other is a very unusual size that I have not quite seen yet. It is very close to a 632 but I am not sure if it will be an exact match as the inner diameter is different. I have a bearing on order and will check. Thank you and cheers!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL awesome thank you very much!!! I await your return for the second bearing 😉
Nicolas
Great tear down fella! Very odd I.d of that bearing, not come across one of that size before. Keep up the good work 👍🏻👊🏻
Thanks my friend! Yea very odd indeed. I have the only size that’s closest available on order but I feel like the ID won’t match up… we’ll see though… Will keep on keepin on 🙌🙌🙌. Cheers!
Sure it's not 3mm inner diameter? I have a similar caliper and measuring small inner diameters becomes a little erroneous due to the shape and offset of the tool. Anyway, maybe you could just measure the spoil shaft thickness as it has to fit inside the bearing.
@@gostagos6143 hey gostago! I measured a few times and kept getting 2.75mm oddly. Your idea of measuring the spool shaft is a good one though and I can definitely try that out. Will report back in a bit! Cheers and thanks for that suggestion!
@@gostagos6143 reporting back with the spool shaft diameter. The shaft has two thickness near that bearing. The outermost diameter is the thickest at around 2.98mm and then it tapers down towards the middle of the spool to around 2.75mm. I measured the ID of the bearing again and I was getting 2.88/2.89mm. So… I’m not sure if this is just a 632 bearing? I have a few on order and will report back on this… the spool bearing itself is a 472 bearing. Hope that helps and thanks again for that measurement suggestion!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL thank YOU for measuring. And providing us with awesome BFS content!
Great tear down. Keep stripping those reels down as it’s extra info compared to others doing similar
Hey Adrian! Thank you for the words of encouragement my friend. I really do hope that I am able to help bring information and knowledge to folks in as unbiased a manner as possible. Just trying to help people make good decisions with their hard earned money. Cheers my friend and thank you as always!
I heard Arise Air's carriage screw is too loose which impacts the retrieve smoothness. Need to add 3*7*0.1mm washer(s) to fix
Hey Jinsuo! I’ve noticed a bit of line lay issues as well. Wondering if the worm shaft is shimmed incorrectly. Line tends to bunch up towards the sideplate. Can you explain where the carriage screw is loose? My reel seems to have smoothened up a bit but I’m wondering if it’s because I tore the reel down and then tightened some screws up. Unsure… cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL You are right, I mean "worm shaft" is loose. Some reels' document calls it carriage screw like Kastking :)
@@jinsuozhang9432 right on! Yea that’s exactly what my findings were as well. The line lay is slightly off center… not a huge deal I think but a bit of an oversight on their part. Cheers my friend!
Hi! Which bearing is installed on the spool? What is its size?
Hey there! The spool bearing size is a 742. 7mm OD x 2.5mm width x 4mm ID. Hope that helps! Cheers!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL Thanks you!
What grease you use for main gear?
Hey izya! I have a few at my disposal currently. Shimano dura-ace which is actually meant for mountain bikes but has really great gear grease properties, Superlube which is affordable in the states and works well, Deuthlon(have not tried yet), iOS grease seems to work well but I need to look into this more, CastX(have not yet used this), and Ardent reel butter(have not used this yet). So far of the ones I have used they all seem to perform well enough but I do feel that superlube needs to be replaced a bit sooner than the Shimano and iOS grease. To be honest, I think the differences between greases will likely be minute and I’d suggest using what you have and maintaining and cleaning your reel frequently. I’ll try to do a video on greases soon. Cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL thank you!
I use divinol 😊 now, but want buy good grease for micro module on my Shimano and Haibo, but do not know what to buy Shimano DG4 or Zpi Medium
@@Izya__ if you want to stick with Shimano grease and want their lightest version try searching for Shimano ACE-0. It used to be sold as dg01. Cheers my friend!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNELthanks
Compared to Kastking, which brand do you think pays more attention to detail?
Hey tuukeya! If you’re referring to Haibo vs Kastking it’s hard to say. This is the only Haibo reel I’ve ever held in hand and looked at. While I really do think this reel has great performance it’s not without it’s own cons. I’ll go over that in a video soon. Because of this I can’t really say one pays more attention to detail. What I can say is that the components on the Haibo are better and that a lot of the build quality seems to be very good. Anyhow, sorry I can’t just give you a solid answer. I am just trying to be as transparent as possible. Cheers my friend!
This is pinion gear and mainshaft support bearing?
Hi Alfa! Yes this has a pinion support bearing. The main shaft of the reel is also supported by a bearing at the base and by the handle bearing. Hope that helps! This is a 11+1 bearing reel. Cheers!
@@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL thanks for sharing information
@@alfaraden4296 my pleasure!
At the end you talked and showed a reel said is good but didn't say what is was. Is it a seasir cast-x?
You also talked about fishing these, do you have another channel showing this?
Hey sidewinder! The reel I briefly showed at the end is the Soloking Acura. Likely that was the old version as this video is a bit older now. As far as fishing videos go you’re correct in that you don’t see many. In the interest of time and my sanity/enjoyment of fishing I tend to not make actual fishing videos as the observations there are almost purely subjective. I had a long time struggling on whether or not to make fishing videos and I’ve sort of started to give in with a few on the channel. These videos also take considerably more time to edit for me so they often get backed up in the queue. As it stands, I have a good handful that
I need to edit so you may see some coming out soon. In these videos, I don’t concentrate on fishing and instead concentrate on casting various lure weights to give you guys an idea of what to expect. That being said, it’s still 100% subjective and catered to my setup and my casting abilities and other environmental factors so… my casting videos all need to be taken with that into consideration. Unfortunately, my channel isn’t really geared towards the entertainment side of things and more on the educational and informational side so I aim to try to be as objective as possible. I hope that makes sense and that you understand a bit more of the goals of the channel and why there aren’t all that many actual on the water videos but you should see more shortly. Thanks so much for your patience and understanding with this as it’s really been a challenge for me haha. I am but an amateur video editor with limited time(aren’t we all though…). Anyhow, thanks so much for the question and cheers my friend!
Is this reel okay for saltwater fishing?
Hey fire! Hm I think unfortunately it is not =\. The bearings are not listed as being salt resistant. The only CDM bfs reels I know of off the top of my head that are salt resistant are the Soloking Acura pro and the FFFtackle FF01 Kingfisher and FF01 cormorant reels. Hope that helps and cheers my friend! ^^
👍🏻👍🏻 my friend...was this a CDM reel?..if it was it is the top of the line in its market...good to know our friends in china developing a quality product...i have question my friend, do the gear has precise cutting like we micromodules of shimano or digicut like daiwa? 😅😁😁
Hey Irvin! This is indeed a CDM reel. I do not know if it is considered too if the line but it is fairly high I believe. As far as your question about the gear machining it does appear to look like the machining is very good. Is it similar to micromodule or digigear I am not sure as Shimano and daiwas marketing doesn’t quite explain what they’ve actually done to make their gears considered micromodule or digigear. The gears of this reel are smooth with a hint of roughness most likely coming from an improperly shimmed worm shaft. I will try to shim mine correctly and see if that improves the smoothness. That being said it is smooth. I wish I could somehow convey what I mean but words and video can only do so much… hope that helps though and cheers!
When I click on link why is it in Spanish?
Hey Joseph! I wonder if your aliexpress language is set to Spanish or possibly the location you have set is a Spanish location? If you’re referring to the affiliate links they should be in English. Let me know if you keep having issues. Thanks and cheers!
I’m logged in on my app ive bought plenty of bfs reels and rods when I click on the link in your video it pops up but everything is in Spanish. Not sure why I’m trying to purchase a harbor air myself at the moment
Very odd… are both links acting up for you out of curiosity?
@@josephmorin1098 interesting it appears the second link I posted for some reason their title is in Spanish. The description is in English though for me. The first link I just checked is in English.
I think I figured it out did you purchase from meta store?
Well said, I can't get over how ugly it is. Maybe in hand it would grow on me.
Hey Abel! Haha yea it’s not a looker for sure… there are some angles that aren’t too bad but that asymmetrical top view is a bit meh… that aside the reel is actually quite nice so if you can get over the looks then imho you have a very nice well made well spec’d reel for the money. In my limited casting tests it’s not too bad either. It doesn’t quite like 0.6g as much as my 22’ Aldebaran bfs with a KKR spool or my Soloking Acura with roro bearings but it is completely stock and performing at about 90-95% of what those reels are getting in terms of distance. Quite respectable. I tested 1g and wow does it shine there. I’d say performance is equal to the other two mentioned reels. I need to do some more back to back testing but it’s a solid performer so far. PS if you’re in the states and are on the fence in getting one my suggestion is to decide soon as it seems like they’re selling out fast but also the shop I purchased from will no longer sell to the states for certain reasons. Go look at the Ark gravity and I think you’ll understand why. Hope that helps and cheers my friend!