The Banned DOOM Remake...

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  • @Midnighthalo
    @Midnighthalo  ปีที่แล้ว +387

    Random dude: *makes a compilation of doom mods*
    Zenimax: "Anyways, I started blasting"

    • @theloaf9346
      @theloaf9346 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Uh oh

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thank god for the microsoft buyout

    • @PhoenixBird9000
      @PhoenixBird9000 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I never got a look at the actual files, but from the looks of it he ripped a bunch of gun models off from Generations Arena. The pistol, health potions, spiritual armor, shotgun, chainsaw, and chaingun assets look suspiciously like bastardizations of our models. We've never given anyone permission to use those outside our project since it's still being worked on, and this guy never asked. We had to jump through hoops with Id to get their permission to do our project, and it's absolutely infuriating what this guy did. Id has been VERY tolerant of the modding community. Ripping off other peoples' work and endangering modding as a whole was a really low thing to do. It also sucks seeing a project get shut down for any reason. Prospective modders, please learn how copyright and IP works. Those of us who are in the mod community don't want to have our stuff used without permission, sure, but we also don't want to see people work hard on something only to get a CnD letter.

    • @darkhunter5293
      @darkhunter5293 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you tried Project Brutality?

    • @cixlo
      @cixlo ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a serious question... I tend to do this with every new fandom I join..... please don't over think it.
      The original sprites in doom had a Caucasian male fist with hairy arms. Who was the original doom fist? I mean the man who fist became that weapon in game. They couldn't have drawn it. They took pictures of a man's fist. I ask again.... who is the doom fist?

  • @kneeofjustice9619
    @kneeofjustice9619 ปีที่แล้ว +602

    “Why would a multi million dollar corporation target a simple modder?”
    Rockstar in a nutshell.

    • @Midnighthalo
      @Midnighthalo  ปีที่แล้ว +47

      bro

    • @alface935
      @alface935 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@Midnighthalo Nintendo:

    • @Thonato420
      @Thonato420 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@alface935 💀

    • @alface935
      @alface935 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thonato420 Nintendo: Its the me
      DMCA CLAIM MOTHER FUCKER!

    • @Muscleduck
      @Muscleduck ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Rockstar nuked all those mods and then released the horrible trilogy...

  • @theloaf9346
    @theloaf9346 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    brutal doom is so fun

    • @Midnighthalo
      @Midnighthalo  ปีที่แล้ว +62

      yes it is

    • @shadowstar37
      @shadowstar37 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Unless it's on yt

    • @johnlynn8543
      @johnlynn8543 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's a good foundation. I throw around 20 mods on top of it.

    • @denisdubovik228
      @denisdubovik228 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see you haven't played ultrakill yet to know what fun does mean

    • @issyisok6667
      @issyisok6667 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@denisdubovik228 I see that you don't know different people have different meanings of fun

  • @Thatonecyborg
    @Thatonecyborg ปีที่แล้ว +93

    the best 3d recreation goes to Voxel doom for turning monster sprites to 3d models while remaining faithful to the original sprites - edit corrected by a reply

    • @thelaughingmanofficial
      @thelaughingmanofficial ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you meant to say Sprites instead of models.

    • @colinwatt9387
      @colinwatt9387 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Of all the Doom mods and recreations I've seen, Voxel Doom is the only one that looks right, as if it was meant to be there all along. It's subtle but so effective.

  • @captaintoyota3171
    @captaintoyota3171 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Carmack is such a legend by releasing source codes. He could really teach some game co.s something

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he didn’t half life wouldn’t exist

    • @b3ans4eva
      @b3ans4eva ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@staringcorgi6475 Valve licensed the Quake engine from id & used it as the base for GoldSrc.

    • @CourierSiix
      @CourierSiix ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@staringcorgi6475wrong

  • @carljavier2560
    @carljavier2560 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    An individual from 20 blocks away: "And that's where the story ends."
    Midnight: "OR DOES IT?"

  • @DoktorRockszo
    @DoktorRockszo ปีที่แล้ว +53

    My first Doom mod was the original Alien Doom. Just a couple a sprite swaps and sound effects pulled from the movie. The occasional bit of profanity from some of the samples never failed to make my teenage self giggle.

    • @deadchannel726
      @deadchannel726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pretty impressive I must say. It is possible for me to obtain this mod and play it?

    • @ChuuniKaede
      @ChuuniKaede 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the original alien doom was a total conversion. it wasnt just sprite swaps. it was entirely new episode that swapped out all of the weapons, enemies, the majority of the textures and spritework, including samples directly from the movies.

  • @Nieveria
    @Nieveria ปีที่แล้ว +9

    there is no "c&d", the author lied about this to cover up the shit he was getting for stealing other modder's assets and direct the blame to zenimax

    • @sillyfella2009
      @sillyfella2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a twist!

    • @dafoex
      @dafoex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Source: trust me bro

  • @physicalgrafiti12345
    @physicalgrafiti12345 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Me having exact same reaction as Anakin when I found out HDoom did not mean High Definition Doom. Though I am not at all new, and have been a Doomer since Day 1 of the source code release.

    • @j_mack1996
      @j_mack1996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I accidentally came across Doom Hentai once.

    • @darkhunter5293
      @darkhunter5293 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I saw a video on that once and thought "what was the person who made the mod smoking when they made this!?"

    • @johnlynn8543
      @johnlynn8543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the same thing when I was looking to make a modernized ZDoomLauncher mod compilation last year. Looking for graphic packs, saw HDoom, thinks "that ain't cannon"

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkhunter5293 Rule 34, man. Cacodemons were never immune to it...

    • @brians1793
      @brians1793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@j_mack1996 You mean the mod or rule 34?

  • @dbzfan005slayer_cultist
    @dbzfan005slayer_cultist ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Imagine if people actually modded the game to be remastered 100% legally this time it would be actually good or just bring up this situation again

    • @khalilpontikes7293
      @khalilpontikes7293 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Zenimax would still stop it most likely. A lot of unofficial remakes get the cease and desist even if it's a series with no new games in the works.

    • @dbzfan005slayer_cultist
      @dbzfan005slayer_cultist ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@khalilpontikes7293 unfortunate

    • @khalilpontikes7293
      @khalilpontikes7293 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dbzfan005slayer_cultist samething happened to the Fallout 1 remake that was being remade on the New Vegas engine, project got stopped by Bethesda and the remake was almost done.
      Edit: Except I don't think this mod was banned unlike Doom remake 4

    • @CreativeUsernameHere-r1k
      @CreativeUsernameHere-r1k ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If the mod requires the base game, is free and doesn't infringe copyrighted material it's ok. See the Skyblivion mod etc.

    • @NordicDan
      @NordicDan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's being done with X-Wing. It's using the original game data so you have to have bought the original game, but it's a 100% modernized update. XWVM is what it's called, and it looks absolutely phenomenal.

  • @vandarkholme8548
    @vandarkholme8548 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember when Vasyan just started to work on this project, and posting on 2ch (Russian 4chan). It was originally called "Doom Collection" and was just a modpack and not a standalone project, but slowly he added more and more content to it and decided to call it a remake, and the rest is history. What I remember very clearly is that everyone hated him for constantly shilling for this remake.
    BTW Vasyan777 in Russia is a generic nickname for an amateur modder/game developer, "vasyan mods" are often poorly made and based on stolen assets... yeah he knew what he was doing.

  • @42ccb
    @42ccb ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The funny thing is that his nickname (Vasyan) comes from russian words "васянство" and "васян", which means a very poorly done mod and person, that makes bad mods...

    • @DoomKid
      @DoomKid ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, are you serious?

    • @BenAkenobi
      @BenAkenobi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DoomKid he's serious, the wordplay in 'Vasyan' is a reference to a group of average boys, with common names as John, Nick, Pete and such. Vasya is equivalent to, let's say, Johnny - and the boys make fun of him, talking about him in friendly, but part humorous, part condescending manner: what's Johnny up to? - oh, he said he's making a Doom mod and everyone will know it's Johnny's mod - what a loser, let's go play Call of Warfare Modern Duty Five.

  • @exxor9108
    @exxor9108 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I started listening to this, getting all gung-ho against a multi-million dollar company, and THEN I hear the reason as to why. And I basically went "oh..."

    • @trailersic
      @trailersic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still it's like shutting down an emulator because it includes the bios... yeah everyone is getting the bios files legally by ripping them from their console. Same with doom.wad.

    • @shyguy85
      @shyguy85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@trailersicpft no, nobody is legally getting either of those

    • @diddlenfiddle7311
      @diddlenfiddle7311 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@trailersic Correct me if I'm wrong but the bios is perfectly legal to download, if you own the console it's from.

    • @trailersic
      @trailersic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diddlenfiddle7311 But not to distribute it.

  • @sum-doom_player1993
    @sum-doom_player1993 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I remember the first time I was introduced to DOOM (2016) it was awesome

    • @romanzupyk6942
      @romanzupyk6942 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doom 2016 was the first game I played in the series

    • @ruiiziinhoo
      @ruiiziinhoo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@romanzupyk6942 same

    • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
      @ghfjfghjasdfasdf ปีที่แล้ว

      Do y’all even Doom?

    • @ruiiziinhoo
      @ruiiziinhoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ghfjfghjasdfasdf yes I doom

    • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
      @ghfjfghjasdfasdf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Excellent” - Mr. Burns

  • @Mathos7979
    @Mathos7979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first mod was doom 64 for doom 2 solely because my parents wouldn't buy me the original doom 64 for understandable reasons
    (That mod has a banger OST btw)

  • @BasilBonehead
    @BasilBonehead ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I remember when this mod came out. I just remember thinking to myself it’s a dumb “HD” for doom that used models from other mods and that was it for me at the time. Even I was confused about the c&d zenimax sent the “author” of this “mod”. Not gonna lie I was expecting you to cover this mod eventually given how you’ve covered controversial mods before. I didn’t even know there was more to the story until now so I thank you for the new information.
    Also to answer the other part: brutal doom got me into doom modding. Can’t wait for version 22.

    • @johnluis2711
      @johnluis2711 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He just released the Dev notes for v22. Looks insane

  • @DaringTakekawaYT
    @DaringTakekawaYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The first Doom mod I ever played was actually Brutal Doom... Then it just went down all kinds of rabbit holes after that.

  • @truebluethecat
    @truebluethecat ปีที่แล้ว +28

    First doom mod I played was Aliens TC back when it first came out. Was a cool experience to play something that almost felt like an entire new game.

    • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
      @ghfjfghjasdfasdf ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. We are old.
      🤓

    • @cbnewham5633
      @cbnewham5633 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ghfjfghjasdfasdf Same. It was actually a lot scarier than Doom - especially with the sound clips from the movie playing in the claustrophobic corridors,

    • @feddyvonwigglestein3481
      @feddyvonwigglestein3481 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

  • @dragonriderjohann7683
    @dragonriderjohann7683 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am loving these videos more and more keep it up legend

  • @DartTyler
    @DartTyler ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *This mod - gets banned
    *Moonman Mod - just exist

  • @exxor9108
    @exxor9108 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The first mod I ever legitimately put any serious stock into playing, was a series of mods by Batandy called The Golden Souls. Think Doom, but it plays like Super Mario 64 or Super Mario World. I've played and beat the first two mods and am waiting on the third one.

  • @abdullahtshabal9522
    @abdullahtshabal9522 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My first mod I played was "Eternal Damnation is Doomed" based on the Postal 2 mod all the way back in 2010/11.
    It was for ZDoom. Yes, ZDoom. Not GZDoom.

  • @VermilionRua
    @VermilionRua ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My first Doom mod was QuakeStyle ZX, being made by a buddy of mine while we were in college together. It inspired me to make my own mods, QuakeStyle Unbound (when I was still using ThatBlindGuy as my username for everything) and Ratchet & Clank: Hot and Bothered whose next update is some 2 years in the making.
    Sorry for the shameless plug, but these are projects I'm passionate about and want to share every chance I get.

    • @lotion5238
      @lotion5238 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please work more on the ratchet and clank wad, I really like it but I think it's a little bit lacking right now

  • @DoomKid
    @DoomKid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video on this man!

  • @butterss1178
    @butterss1178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other devs: noooo you cant remake our game!!!!
    Valve: go ahead

  • @whackyzachy1482
    @whackyzachy1482 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I swear this dude looks like konekokitten.

  • @rankogolubovic3454
    @rankogolubovic3454 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the story never ends in a midnight video, remember that for next time!

  • @Doomguy_74
    @Doomguy_74 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy cow you're alive. i'm just now getting suggestions for videos you uploaded. good to see you are doing well my man : )

  • @cardiac9145
    @cardiac9145 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your content man. Well told and often hilarious. And this is where my comment ends……

    • @cardiac9145
      @cardiac9145 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      OR DOES IT?!?!

  • @philippebarillecavalier9275
    @philippebarillecavalier9275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Modding and wads is one thing, engine is another. Releasing the source of the engine is not technically what made modding possible, but it helped and made the game immortal (no longer bound by dos or emulator).

  • @randominternetman8177
    @randominternetman8177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brutal Doom is cool, but I much prefer Project Brutality.

  • @raphaelborgiot2600
    @raphaelborgiot2600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a guy making a "Brutal Painkiller" for Painkiller Black, "Painkiller Reload", it was shutdown from ModDB in november 2022 because it's the entire game included for free with the mod, lol. I stored it on a USB key, it's kinda cool actually, I know he's reupload the "mod" on a Google Drive.

  • @Wbfuhn
    @Wbfuhn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's sad when someone takes credit for other people's work.
    If this had been released it would have been a legal snowball if that snowball started at the top of Mt. Everest.
    Someone could remake the first 2 games using the source code but it has to rely on the licensed games and any and all mods from others must be credited. That's how it works.

  • @therealjackfisher
    @therealjackfisher ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First modded doom I played was the one I made by my self, but the list is long. I plaed some good and bad mods. I remember I struggled Aliens to work on my dooms. I had a CD full of modded wad files. It was probably the one game the world enjoyed the most of all games ever made. Everyone played doom.

  • @captaintoyota3171
    @captaintoyota3171 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So he could have made this into a mod and even sold it just making sure not to use free stuff required not to sell. So instead he decided to try to do everything wrong. Doom is SO EASY to mod and make mods why wouldnt you just do that?

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      If someone knew why russians do anything, they'd get a Noble prize... right now, it seems they're just programmed to be random... Who the F steals a raccoon and washing machines?

  • @mooqer
    @mooqer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    as person who plays DOOM on xbox I can't download mods :(

  • @traversal6881
    @traversal6881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta love people who clearly have coding talent, but zero brain.

  • @jamboi96.
    @jamboi96. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first doom mod I played was the one where you cut mow the grass and kill demons

  • @cubeflinger
    @cubeflinger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First mod I played was aliens total conversion which I think came out pretty much immediately after doom? No idea. Was great at the time anyway

  • @michaelr9839
    @michaelr9839 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to get a PC and start playing some brutal doom. Great videos man, I appreciate your Doom obsession.

  • @chrisc448
    @chrisc448 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not my first Doom mod but current build:
    * Brutal Doom purist mode
    * HD textures
    * DarkDoomz
    * Hitmarkers
    * SBrightmaps
    * Nice Wall Blood
    * Doom Visor
    * IDKFA music
    It is spectacular, I love Doom so so much

    • @johnlynn8543
      @johnlynn8543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use similar, minus the music in favor of environmental sounds plus 15 graphic change nitpicks. Tip with that setup, throw in Extermination Day or Knee Deep in ZDoom .wad and a monster randomizer, something not over the top. DoomKraken is one of the most sensible two I use. I haven't played the original.wads in years, they make me fall asleep.

  • @darkhunter5293
    @darkhunter5293 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pain is only temporary but Doom is eternal!
    (Also, 1st real mod I ever played was Brutal Doom, even added a few interesting weapon wads like the Nuke Launcher (Not the fatman launcher or Experimental MIRV from the Fallout series) and the Sawblade launcher.)

  • @kaje01
    @kaje01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dont think this guy had any bad intentions. This could have been his first real project that he spent a lot of time figuring out how to make work even if it was compiled mostly from other people's assets. Once enough time was invested he would have been attached to his work and just wanted to share it with the public.

    • @EggsBenedict-te4nj
      @EggsBenedict-te4nj ปีที่แล้ว

      Doubtful. It's not difficult to ask someone to use their work. If they say no then try actually learning to mod rather than stitching together already existing ones.

  • @rb3020
    @rb3020 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish he did the due diligence and stuff right because the project looked kinda cool. Maybe some day we can check it out but I don't think it's right for people to redistribute mods without the original mod creators permission

    • @JokeDeity2
      @JokeDeity2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the best compilation I've played, glad I have it downloaded still. I like Brutal Black Edition, but Remake 4 just has a little bit more oomph. I don't know enough about Doom modding to recreate it myself as he compiled it, otherwise I would as I'm sure several mods have had updates. Still, check Google, it's worth it.

  • @michealtheevilhero2340
    @michealtheevilhero2340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't played classic doom in almost 10 years, I watched footage of Brutal Doom and thought I'd give it a go and by Hell I haven't had this much dumb chaotic fun in a Good while.

  • @Hank..
    @Hank.. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's the thing: if the issue was ignorance, rather than knowingly doing the wrong thing, I feel like this could have been remedied without issue. Like, I didn't know all of that stuff about GPLs, but I would've been happy to comply with that stuff after finding out. I would've gone out of my way to remedy each issue to make sure everything was settled. Releasing it under a different name with changes made feels like deliberate deception and trickery.

  • @Spotcats
    @Spotcats ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doom Remake 4 looks sick. I wanna play that.

  • @halo129830
    @halo129830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    H doom is friggin cannon and I don’t know how to feel about that. I usually just grab the cod weapons wad and h doom and thus no h scenes just wwii gun kills

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      HDoom blocks Brutal Doom, but CoD weapons is something I need to try, that way H monsters are just a new enemy pack (how many times you can kill same looking imps anyway).

    • @halo129830
      @halo129830 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KasumiRINA well it has cod 1 animations and weapons

  • @judsongaiden9878
    @judsongaiden9878 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:52 Never played any Doom mods, but I did play the Future Vs. Fantasy mod for Quake back in the '90s.

  • @MinorLife10
    @MinorLife10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    petya222 was vasyan777 all along? Who could see that coming?
    Eastern Europeans like myself, of course

  • @danteshollowedgrounds
    @danteshollowedgrounds ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well damn that's crazy.

  • @justchan2443
    @justchan2443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freedoom thing baffles me because I don't think it's hard to find the doom 1 & 2 wad.

  • @scotpion2253
    @scotpion2253 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine's Brutal Doom too!
    Amazing video!
    I've really wondered why they've taked down the mod!

  • @DennisRLuna
    @DennisRLuna ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video bro!!

  • @ArthurD
    @ArthurD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To put it simply, this guy, Vasyan777 (this is name Vasily that went through few Russian language mutations) while being incredibly talented, just DID NOT GIVE A SHIT about anything legal, licensing or copyright related. These topics are simply not known and/or not respected and/or neglected completely especially among young people IN RUSSIA without proper education. That's why piracy is high and so many people are hackers.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      the russians don't understand "property" let alone intellectual one... piracy is high in all poor countries for another reason, but people have ethnics, as in, steal from big companies but support little devs and individuals and russians don't consider CITIES or PENINSULAS actually belonging to other people, of course they don't give a crap about copyrights when the entire war is about stealing our TVs, paintings, washing machines, and raccoons.

  • @VoltageWolfX
    @VoltageWolfX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    New sub here! Amazing content brother!

  • @test-rj2vl
    @test-rj2vl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting. I actually like those HD textrues that have this kind of 3D effect. Can those textrues be obtained from some mods?

  • @JokeDeity2
    @JokeDeity2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Regardless of how you feel about the ethics of it, it's the most fun and best looking way I've played Doom. BDBE being a close contender. I'm glad I still have it downloaded. Now if I could just figure out how to play Myhouse with these other mods.

  • @undeadwarfare828
    @undeadwarfare828 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the next Doom should be like Doom 3 in terms of being scary survival horror.

    • @sillyfella2009
      @sillyfella2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you like DooM 3, go play DooM 3. Like survival horror generally? Go play Dead Space. DooM has changed

    • @morkgin2459
      @morkgin2459 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sillyfella2009 doom 64 then

    • @sillyfella2009
      @sillyfella2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morkgin2459 DooM 64 is more like classic DooM. Creepier Music and Atmosphere, but still the same gameplay. DooM has moved past the point of being edgy and scary

    • @morkgin2459
      @morkgin2459 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sillyfella2009 when was Doom edgy?

    • @sillyfella2009
      @sillyfella2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morkgin2459 DooM 3 trying to jumpscare you and all. The whole DooM comic with the serious rip and tear shit. DooM 1993 and DooM 2 were originally supposed to be horror

  • @Kommunisator
    @Kommunisator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video. I wonder however if Zenimax HAD to go after the modder, because part of their IP was included in the project.
    If the modder had created everything from scratch, and refrained from using any copyrighted names - but charged no money for the result - they probably wouldn't have had a legal ground to stand on.
    But if their IP is infringed upon, and in a medium they are using this IP in (i.e. video games), under some laws in some countries they are forced to act or risk losing the copyright on that ip in that medium, which would mean that any company would be free to create and distribute "DOOM" games without them having the possibility to legally defend themselves against that anymore.
    And with the waves the mod made on the net, they couldn't have gone with the defense of "well, we just didn't know about it" - they have to act as soon as they hear about it if the modder makes it publicly available.
    If the modder does something cool but keeps it to himself and only shows a few videos - again, that's legal to do.

  • @garrettcasperson3089
    @garrettcasperson3089 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used to love bethesda much more than i do now but i think they made the right decision here.

  • @davidsalzer6051
    @davidsalzer6051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First Doom mod I played was Alien Doom

  • @ANJIN79SAMMA
    @ANJIN79SAMMA ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember changing the wav. files and replacing things from Robo cop , predator 2 etc sound bites. Also barney the dinosaur replacing the pinkys and pac man replacing the imps. Good old days!!!

  • @TachikomaKURO
    @TachikomaKURO ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seriously some gaming news were hyping it like no tomorrow. Good we moved forward from this. And things like Doom on RTX and Voxel Doom were released.

  • @Garlic_Doggo
    @Garlic_Doggo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll be honest, my first doom mod is Moon because me and a good friend of mine found saw that old video from gmanlives when it came out and we were amused by the thought process of someone who would make such a mod, and actually it was pretty funny

  • @axtrifonov
    @axtrifonov 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Russian we have a neologism "vasyanka" which means low quality mod.
    Also afaik Vasyan was warned by Doom community that his mod is illegal even prior to it's DMCAtion.

  • @Leonstrife1999
    @Leonstrife1999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brutal doom was my first Doom mod, but ive recently been play Embers Of Armageddon which puts Eternal's gameplay into classic doom

  • @sinephase
    @sinephase ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand why he'd put that much work into it and not just take the legal steps necessary to make it legit.

  • @TheDoomsdayzoner
    @TheDoomsdayzoner ปีที่แล้ว

    First Doom mode I ever played was that old Doom mode that united Doom 1&2 into a single campaign. It was back in 2000, so I don't remember it's name.

  • @Mr.SlipSlap
    @Mr.SlipSlap 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First time I heard, "fuckable demons" in HDOOM, I wanted to turn into Kratos when he jumps off the cliff...

  • @vincentscolari7394
    @vincentscolari7394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid midnight

  • @soulreaver1983
    @soulreaver1983 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding video many thanks 😎👍

  • @neppyneppynepu
    @neppyneppynepu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First doom mod i played is called Oblivion, made by my husband

  • @limpfall13
    @limpfall13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Freedoom was my first way into getting into doom modding a few years ago and I have actual doom 2 for a while now been playing it off and on.

  • @Double-X2-Points
    @Double-X2-Points 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Love these videos! Keep them coming!
    *or does it* ?!

  • @SerathDarklands
    @SerathDarklands ปีที่แล้ว

    My first Doom mod was Supergun_1.WAD. It gives the player infinite ammo and makes all the weapons fire incredibly fast, but not in the way that the sv_fastweapons console command does - the shotgun would fire endlessly and only pump when you released the trigger, and the super shotgun was basically a buckshot hose that never needed to be reloaded. It's a fun mod if you're looking just for some mindless catharsis.
    My _favorite_ Doom mod, however, is EASILY La Tailor Girl. It really flips the play experience on its head.

  • @sillyfella2009
    @sillyfella2009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This mod is the bane of my existance

  • @haole08067
    @haole08067 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny thing is the Doom and Doom II wads can be found archived on the internet anyway. I mean they were released to the public by the creator.

  • @GamePlayShare
    @GamePlayShare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Typical behavior considering user's names and profile images. You know what I mean.

  • @itsumbree2
    @itsumbree2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mine was brutal doom too, it's just too fun

  • @eightcoins4401
    @eightcoins4401 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TL;DR its a mod pack the creator claimed was a remake. None of the mods were created by him

  • @v0ltdev
    @v0ltdev ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This doom remake mod was actualy the first doom mod i played and even how i experienced the classic doom games after doom eternal got me into the franchize, throwing aside all the copyright stuff the mod is actualy pretty good and i saved a way to be able to download the mod in case it was removed from everywhere

    • @ceasarcruz8312
      @ceasarcruz8312 ปีที่แล้ว

      if that ass nugget bullshit is "good" for you, I fear what you might consider as "bad"...

    • @v0ltdev
      @v0ltdev ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ceasarcruz8312 ?

    • @ceasarcruz8312
      @ceasarcruz8312 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@v0ltdev having trouble comprehending simple sentences, eh?

    • @v0ltdev
      @v0ltdev ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ceasarcruz8312 no, im curious what your problem is

    • @ceasarcruz8312
      @ceasarcruz8312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@v0ltdev what problem? this "mod" is certified dumpster juice sprinkled with doodoo nuggets, and you consider it as "good"... I don't even want to know what would be "bad" according to you if you enjoy a mess like this 🤣🤣🤣

  • @HeathenDance
    @HeathenDance ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. Since Brutal Doom was mentioned, for some reason I just find it hilarious.

  • @OmegaZX-kd8sm
    @OmegaZX-kd8sm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think my first actual mod was.... hmmm brutal too? or maybe other one... yeah there was one, i think it Targold? wich was something like the files are something something

    • @Midnighthalo
      @Midnighthalo  ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of people's first mod was Brutal DOOM, or maybe Project Brutality?

  • @JamesRichardsPlays
    @JamesRichardsPlays ปีที่แล้ว

    A bit late to the party, but my first doom mod was a wad shared on one of those early eye killing websites on the web that took all the levels of episode 1 and put them together in a long, large map. I can't remember the name, but the new version of it is basically a batch file that stitches your own copies of the wads since distributing the original was illegal. It got me into modding Doom and I started making my own maps. I got into weapon replacements and I tried my hand at new creatures. That in turn spawned an interest in attempting to mod almost any game I could that allowed some kind of avenue into it. 1994 to 1998 was a wild time for me when it came to video games.
    As a GenXer who has been around since before Doom was released; Zenimax (owners of id) were in their rights to do what they did. They are protecting their IP. There is a difference between being a shitty company going after the little guy and a company that has an active IP. It is possible Vasyan777 did not understand copyright or IP law or even the basic understanding the sourcecode for the engine was free, but the assets aren't. This is common practice. The code that makes the game gets released, the music, textures, sounds, maps etc are protected creative works. This is why the modding community releases their mods requiring a working IWAD. Either the official or a clean room IWAD replacement like freedoom. So legally he was wrong. Ethically, he was wrong by using assets that were not created by him or something he obtained permission for. I downloaded the original before it was yanked and was an active discussion participant on Doomworld questioning it's legality and viability. It didn't require an IWAD. The next release was no better; the main mod file still had original map information in it. And it still had assets bundled he had no permission for.

  • @rjspires
    @rjspires ปีที่แล้ว

    Alien Doom and Evil Dead Doom Mods are the only ones I played back in the day.

  • @worldz_of_visions
    @worldz_of_visions 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first was the Evil Dead 2 audio pack mod. Played that almost before playing through the original.

  • @Scout-Fanfiction
    @Scout-Fanfiction ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been playing DOOM since 1995. Haven't played any mods yet (i know i'm a Unicorn lol). I really want a re-release of Heretic 2 (or a new iteration in the quadrology).

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      There's Brutal Heretic RPG (and Brutal Hexen), which... aren't really about brutality per se but add new visual effects, weapon modes, level-ups for your character and in general, are closest we get to updated re-release of original two... dunno about mods on Heretic 2, but look up those as well.

  • @Trains-With-Shane
    @Trains-With-Shane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First mod I ever played was the original Aliens TC mod. It was amazing. Damn i'm getting old. No matter. if Zenimax is smart they'll leave the individual mod creators alone as they did not provide permission for this guy to use their resources. They don't have much to stand on, legally, and it would do more to hurt their reputation than would be gained by shutting down legit modders.

  • @ireneparkin3360
    @ireneparkin3360 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally forgot about this llama drama.

  • @Tftmt
    @Tftmt ปีที่แล้ว

    The first Doom mod I ever played was Rekkr, although that's more a total conversion I guess

  • @xXJumboSauceXx
    @xXJumboSauceXx ปีที่แล้ว

    Dio doom was my first mod and then I stacked it with a tracer mod so I could see the bullets flying at me and pause time at the right moment.

  • @Commander204
    @Commander204 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first doom mod was the map pack that could be found with the ZDoom engine in its early years. I forget the name of the mod but it used some Heretic assets for enemies but still gave the player the use of Doom weapons and powerups. Or maybe that was meant for Heretic and not Doom, but I was still able to play it. xD

  • @WeisseDrache
    @WeisseDrache 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are legally obligated to protect their I.P.
    id Software/Zen has been super cool with modding in general.

  • @AiluridaeAureus
    @AiluridaeAureus ปีที่แล้ว

    "What was the first doom mod you played"
    DIO.

  • @roadtonever
    @roadtonever ปีที่แล้ว

    If anything it shows that results can be pretty interesting when ethics are set aside.

  • @daemonspudguy
    @daemonspudguy ปีที่แล้ว

    Doom II Extreme Weapons Pack was my first DOOM PWAD.

  • @Kizoky.
    @Kizoky. ปีที่แล้ว

    There's one thing that's not entirely true
    the copyright takedown "letter" was made up by him, and had a LOT OF grammar mistakes in it, so it was never Bethesda/Zenimax, but him...

  • @general0mega
    @general0mega ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't exactly remember what my first mod was but it was one of many on some CD bought from a software convention around 1995 with hundreds of pages on how to mod the original game using tools like DeHackEd.

  • @mathiasmirguet4035
    @mathiasmirguet4035 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want a gif of Midnight saying "Or does it ?" 😂