I thought this might be a .35 Whelen episode. Poor man's cartridge for sure. 30-06 case necked out to .358 caliber shooting a 250 grain bullet at 2400 fps 3200 ft/lbs. ain't no slouch. Manageable recoil too.
@@WillyK51 Both were built to fit the standard (non magnum) actions the creators had readily available to them at the time with minimal modifications. With that said, they are not identical in performance. The 9.3x62 has quite a few heavier loadings available to it making it the obvious winner out of the two. Bullet weights are available for the 9.3x62 in 230gr, 250gr, 270gr, 285gr, 286gr, 300gr, and 325gr variants.
Zimbabwe acknowledges the 9.3x62 as legal for Cape Buffalo. When Tanzania, then Tanganyika, wrote its first game laws for hunting dangerous game, the 9.3x62 was the exception to the rule. The 35 Whelen is a good cartridge, but it's not legal
@@Paul-q3m7kThe 35 Whelen would be my 2nd choice of rifle to build, with the 338-06 being my first choice, both are incredible performers and can be used on everything from whitetail to bison!
I've got an FN 9.3x62 and found it to be a truly outstanding cartridge!! I took a cape buff with mine - right frontal quartering shot - slipped the projie just in front of the right shoulder, and the Woodleigh 286gr RNSN was found by the rear left rib. Fantastic straight line penetration!! Buff wobbled 10yds and dropped in it's tracks!! STILL an effective cartridge today as it was in it's heyday in Africa!! 👍
I have a Czech former exchange student friend from 25 years ago who is a major forestry executive today. His family has leases on thousands of acres and hunt red deer and boars almost weekly. He also hunts bears in Kamchatka. His rifle is a Sauer with 2 barrels: .308 for Europe and 9.3x 62 for Asian and African dangerous game.
Addenda to my long comment regarding the 9.3x62. The gentleman I got my 9.3x62 from, who grew up hunting in Africa, now lives in the U.S, arranges African safaris and has many years experience hunting dangerous game, stated emphatically that the only shot that should be taken on elephants is a head shot, preferably within 50 yards. He said there is just too much to get through to get to the internal vital organs. He was also against scopes, even at low power because to hard to find the relatively small kill zone can be hard to find following recoil of the first shot or if the scope had been set at a high magnification.
I can buy 35 Whelen ammo but most gun shops in the US don't even know what the 9.3x62 is. Normally they don't know what the 35 Whelen is. They're all into black rifles.
There is even a 253 grain armor piercing bullet available for the 9.3x62, it's difficult to find because it's Russian. They use it in the 9x39mm, 9.3x53mmR, 9.3x64mm Brenneke, and a .338 Lapua Magnum wildcat they call 9x69mm SP-14.
9.3x62 is a very common cartridge in Germany. It is widely used for everything from the size of a roe deer up to red stag. It is definitely capable of taking out whatever you are going to hunt. It's a shame that we don't have larger game than red stag in Germany. We can't even make use of the true potential of this cartridge.
My father hunts with this caliber. Last month watched him dropped a 5x5 elk at 200 plus yards on a trot. One shot dropped on the spot. Cleaning the elk there was little to no meat damage. Round is top notch!
I've been using the 9.3 x 62mm since the early 1970's when I was first introduced to it in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe). My rifle sports a 20 inch barrel and weighs 8lbs including optics. The recoil is comparitively mild (but still a bit brisk) and in my opinion it is far better than the 375 in use. There was an interesting article by Chris Bekker, called "Does excessive Bullet Spin Contribute to Bullet Failure?" It compares the 9.3 with the 375 ... and the 9.3 wins. I've tried searching online for this document, but cannot find a link. I have a .pdf available if anyone wants to read it.
Savage made about 11 uncataloged 111FC rifles in 9.3x62 and I've been exceptionally pleased with mine. Harvested hog & bear with its 20" barrel. I cast a 250 & 300 bullet for 'cheap' plinking. Barnes 250 TSX & IMR 8208 deliver about 2400 fps @ 1 MOA and Nosler 250 AB will move large pieces of lung outside the body on hogs. Norma brass has more case capacity than PPU. RCBS dies are designed for using 30-06 brass necked up while Redding uses CIP dimensions which are larger in diameter at the base of web. RCBS dies swaged a belt into my PPU cases until I sent them back to RCBS for correction. Be aware of that if you have a 35 Whelen bored out & throated to 9.3x62. If you build a 9x39 you can use the same diameter bullets. Great medium bore!
I fell into the lure of the light recoiling 9.3 X 62! The jokes on me! With a 286gr bullet at 2450fps in a lightweight Sako 85 Hunter - you kidding me??? The recoil was horrendous - the saving grace was it was super accurate! In fact I preferred my 375 H&H with a 300gr at 2550fps in a 10.5 lbs rifle vs the 9.3 Sako at 8lb scoped! It all depends on your rifle weight but a 375 with all the "African" accoutrements ( 1/4 rib , safari contour barrel & stock) tends to come in at around 10lbs. So beware there is no free lunch! 9.3's tend to be lighter!
Also the ballistics were developed on an old 96 Mauser action. With safe hand loads in a 98 Mauser action or modern action able to handle 30-06 or270 chamber pressure , the increase in velocity, my Husqvarna 1640 in 9.3x62 will shoot 296gr bullets 2600fps safely.
To answer the question, yes. A Gibbs African Hunter Rifle in 72 caliber, obtained from Dixiegunworks for just over $2,000, with a 550 grain round ball sitting on top of 150 grains of black powder, travelling at 1440fps delivers 2531 foot pounds of energy and a TKO value of 80 - TWICE that of a 375H&H. Black powder is easily and cheaply made, so are percussion caps. Lead can be found anywhere. It's a cheap dangerous game rifle, and MORE than adequate at 50 yards for just about anything if you're using hardened lead balls. Just don't miss.
About 12 years ago, I saw a 9.3x63 Husquvana with a German-style mount and scope for $1500 at a gun show. Always regret not buying it, but my first son was on the way.
No one has commented on the letter perfect imitation of Ron SPOMER? Didn't it seem curious that, with a slight change in the timber of the voice, you could play this with a photo of Ron on the screen and no one would know that it wasn't him? Bravo! And who besides RON could put aside his ego in order to share this gag with us? BRAVO! DOUG out
Love seeing Ron collaborate with Joseph. They have very similar opinions and take on things, so they seem to work well together. It’s great seeing Ron mentor these guys who will be carrying the torch for the next generation. Very good job on the videos! Ps I love the backcountry hunting podcast
I don't think there is an issue with the formula that calculates energy. I think the problem is how we interpret the effect of that energy. The formula just tells you what is happening at the muzzle. We add variables such as weather conditions, altitude, intended target, manufacturer/type of bullet, and so forth, and so on. Double the mass and double the energy. Double the velocity and quadruple the energy. Physics 101.
As an german hunter I prefare the traditional Mauser 98 system. Often copied, never reached as well the Suhler side-by-side shotguns, over and under (,,Bockflinte") Drilling or combined side-by-side Büchsflinte, or similar over-and-under Bockbüchsflinte. These old style manufactured guns put every plastic-gun into shame. 👍
9.2 is the Continental competition to the .375 H&H Speaking to lots of African PH's they say it kicks too much. Personally I would go for the .375 H&H or .4I6 Rigby.
I recently bought an husqvarna mod 46 that one is built on the mauser 96 action in 9,3x57 i love that rifle very mild recoil but hits the target like a hammer norma alaska bullets 285grain
Considering 308 is commonly used on bears even polar bears and eland in Africa this cartridge seems more than capable for anything you’ll find roaming earth these days lol
Thank you for more or less stating that a cartridge may look inferior on paper, are actually a low-recoil goldilocks cartridge when paired with tough projectiles. This is the story of the 6.5x55 Swede, it does not look like much on paper but is can take large game when paired with a tough bullet and when the hunter does their job. African hunter W. D. M. Bell killed hundreds of elephants with his favorite rifle the Mannlicher-Schoenauer 6.5×54mm and the 7x57 Mauser, I can assure you the 9.3x62 mm can dispatch an elephant with authority.
I heard that Bell would pull the projectile on 140 gn. cartridge and turn it around so that the flat end was up front. And killed many elephants with the 6.5 mm. The reason being that an elephant's frontal skull is honeycomb in structure and that long 140gn. would make it to the brain.
@@paulstaney325 Interesting, it sounds illogical though. The higher the force/pressure in a smaller area is going to break through what it is trying to go through. Think of tempered safety glass in a car window, you can hit it with a baseball, a fist, an elbow because all of those item spread the force over a larger area and the glass usually does not break, but hit that same window with less force, but in an extremely small area and the window shatters because all the same force is now on a sharpened steel point. A bullet facing backwards is going to spread force out and not penetrate as deep, a tough pointed bullet will concentrate the energy and bust through tough bone and keep penetrating.
Read about the 9.3×62's great performance on game animals 40 years back. Never been very popular in the U.S. or Canada It's a crying shame. Great cartridge from what I read years ago. Maybe Elmer Keith wrote the article? If he endorsed that cartridge....well you know its going to thump pretty hard.
Have you ever had a deer scream when shot ? I bet you can find a lot of dangerous game rifles in AK pawn shops I tried to sell a rifle at one , they offered me less than I paid for the scope.
I am descended frim german and dutch settlers thay came to africa.... I don't know anuone who owns a rifle in this calibre and I've never even heard of it until aboit 3 mo ths ago. Still, I am fascinated
I am a great 9.3x62 fan. I am a Spaniard, and use it on wild boar driven hunts, as well as on roe deer stalks. I love it. I am delighted to see that it is becoming well-known in the USA as well. It deserves every bit of your attention, and is gaining popularity very quickly. It is a perfectly designed classic, ahead of its time, back in 1905, steadily gaining recognition. It was all but disappeared after the Second World War, but is coming back with authority. It will be loved by many American hunters as well. If I may, I would like to recommend a monographic book on this cartridge. "9.3 X 62 Mauser Journal" (Third edition) by Hendrik Van Der Schyff, in 2021. It is very comprehensive, with history, ballistic comparisons, anecdotes, and a whole lot of experiences by different hunters.
@@jamiehurtt3530 At much higher pressures. Not every commercial action can handle that weight bullet if you are loading it to try for 9.3x62mm performance. Elmer Keith loaded 310s heavy in his .35 Whelen, but he was known for being reckless with his loads. :)
This is a very popular cartridge in Sweden, and has usually been used on Moose almost exclusively, but has become popular in the southern half for Wild Boar. It is probably the most allround for clambering for big game one can own. We have ridiculously oppressive gun laws here, and can only own 6 long guns for hunting. Switch barrel rifles have become popular. And I would say a rifle with 6.5x55 and 9.3x63 would handle most hunting north of the Alps in Europe.
Six long guns per person seems like plenty. 12 ga, sub gauge, rimfire, smaller caliber rifle, large caliber rifle, and one left over. Now if it’s per household and that require accommodating children or a spouse, that gets a little tough.
@@mtkoslowski I'm also an American. I just don't need 6 tools to do what I can do with 4. I think we get head in the clouds and buy lots of guns for scenarios we never hunt. ex: I NEED an elk gun that can reach out 700 yards despite never having hunted elk or shot any game beyond 300. We get marketed into buying a bunch of shit we don't need and then convince ourselves they were a good purchase afterwards.
Hi im hunting mainly moose in nothen Sweden, im been hunting since i was 18 (1975) with a Carl Gustaf 1900 6,5 55. About 15 years ago i was sick and tired of searching the animals becuse they was running more than 100 yards after a deadly shot. I read the statistics of some cartridges an found that the 9.3 74 thats i a commonly used in France - dual barrel guns, the statistics said that 80% of the games dropped less than 20 yards from where they got hit by the bullet. So the choise was simple- the 9,3 62 and the 9,3 74 is commonly loaded for the same performance, so i purchased a Sauer 202 9,3 62.. Last year i purchased a barrel brake to get some less recoil and today I have a recoil as the 6,5 55 at the 9,3 yay
Big 9.3x62 fan here. I use my Ruger Hawkeye loaded with Prvi 286gr rounds on whitetail here in Wisconsin. Soft jacketed bullet lead tip round nose with great expansion. Great in thick wooded areas. Made an 80 yard shot on a 10 pointer, drt. 1inch expansion 246 gr retained. Have had similar results so far.
Also a 9.3x62 Wisconsin hunter. Great cartridge! Mine are CZ550s. I use 250g tsx at 2,555 f/s for everything from whitetail to black bear to nilgai in Texas in open areas and 286g tsx for the great northwoods in WI. Would be a perfect moose cartridge as well. Agreed--excellent in thick wooded areas. Easy to shoot. The slow push recoil is much easier to shoot than even my 6.5x285. Go Badgers.
I have a 9.3x62 CZ 550 full stock carbine that I carry when hunting big game in the Alberta Foothills. I carry it because I am in grizzly country and don’t want anything less when I am field dressing a deer at sundown and realize I have company. My handload is a 286 Nosler partitions and 59 grains of Varget , chronograph shows 2480 fps. Normally I use a 270 for deer but not in the foothills….
@@maxcontax no kidding. A 300wm pushing a 180g pill at 3130fps is producing 3917ftlb and that’s on the upper end of the energy envelop of the 300wm. Wow. I’ve always liked the 9.3x62 because of its versatility but never compared I to a 300wm.
@@the_watcher_abc as I do more field trials with cartridges (aka hunting) I have noted that slower velocities and cup and core bullets seems to kill or stop better than very fast new design bullets, often these new bullets have less Sectional Density, they are lighter.. Stopping power and killing power are related but not the same. My 9.3 handload combines a partition with a slower velocity of about 2400 fps to impact. I have never had to shoot a grizzly with this but decking whitetails has been profound. Even with my 260 Remington, slowing Sierra 140’s to 2530 fps with 43 grains of MRP has resulted in instant collapse. Ido not get that with my 143 grain ELD-X @ 2812 fps MV. Hitting a whitetail at 150 yds broadside with a 9.3x62, they are lifted off their feet and laid down 4 feet down range. After maxing out velocities for years I am discovering slower velocities. My first clue was African favoured cartridges, old and new. Not hi-vel.
I used a 375 H&H for years and then my wife bought me a CZ Model 550 American in 9.3x62 Mauser. I also owned a Rem Model 700 Classic in 350 Rem Mag. I no longer own the 350 and no longer shoot the 375. That's how good the 9,3x62 is. Great cartridge.
I mentioned my late polish doctor friend who lived in Kenya for years. Guided rich English dubs and would tell me hilarious stories about those Englishmen. One how the doctor guided one gent to a herd of elephants..told the gent to shot one bull. The bull spotted them and of course became agitated and began to charge them somewhat. As the doc relayed the event..he turned around and the English gent was running away so..the doc had to shoot the elephant himself m. As soon as the elephant succumbed the Englushbgent ran up..jump up on the elephant and started to demand he got his picture shot of the elephant with him sitting on top. The docs favorite rifle was. 375 H&H…and he had several. As long as a cartridge works..it’s good enough. Lastly, this old doctor friend was truly regretful for having killed elephants and rhinos. And his pictures backed up his claim of many of these takes. You could sense his regret and his testimony to me was “Why did I kill so many? It was truly pointless” he would always tell me. So my question is..why would anyone want to kill those magnificent animals..? One can argue in some areas the elephants are over grazing. But where are these suppose to live? Exist? I guess we’ll never learn to not screw up wild America as we are doing. Altering things to where now there has to be whitetail culling to keep the numbers down. Do not get me started on mule deer or elk numbers…I know these facts well and with CED..we may very well lose most of the mule deer herds and elk…even moose. Just saying
That’s “CWD”…chronic wasting disease and it’s out of control in Colorado and a growing disease throughout North America’s lower 48 and some areas of Canada. Thanks to cattle ranchers.
I shot my elk this year with a 9.3x62 using a 250gr Barnes TTSX. Absolute sledge hammer, even at 300yds which after the shot was lasered as I didn't have time. This is the second elk I've shot with this rifle and am very impressed with the performance. I highly recommend this very versatile cartridge. My rifle is built on a Savage model 111 re-chambered from a 30-06 by Jes Reboring in Oregon. Think I peid less than $ 500.00 for one of the most accurate rifles I own!
A local gun shop in western Pennsylvania had 5 Mossberg Patriot rifles in 375 Ruger that weren't selling and I picked up a stainless, cerakoted one in that caliber for $290 brand spanking new!! Sure, Ammo isn't cheap and I'm really happy I bought 2 boxes then, for $49/ box, now between $85 & $105/ box, but still, what a deal at $290!!! With the 270 gr Hornady sp, interlocks, 2,850 fps!! 3 shot, 5/8" groups at 100 yds
It’s a cool cartridge. That’s my idea of a poor man’s big game cartridge since it can be found in affordable rifles due to the normal length action. How’s the recoil on such a light gun?
@@Snailz5 it was stiff, I won't lie, but added a muzzle break at only $190 and it's like a 30'06 with (correction, not 180's, but 270 gr) Before the break, it was noticeably harsher than my 300 Remington Ultra Mag with 165's
Another "poor-man's Magnum" I discovered nearly 3 decades ago is the now standardized 338-06 A-Square... I had read several articles and load data etc. and became interested in seeking to obtain one in a classic bolt gun. Not finding any reasonably priced examples (at the time) I set about looking to build one. A poorly sporterized Mauser 98 was in the used gun rack at the local gunshop for only $175... A tour through the Brownell's catalog found the Adam's&Bennett barrel, a Fajen stock and a Timney trigger... I obtained Leupold QR mounts and a Beautiful pre-owned Schmidt&Bender 30mm FFP 3-12X56 SCOPE and blued and assembled the gun and optics as well as installed an aftermarket mag baseplate and tuned it all to shoot into 1 inch at 100 yards all day long. My first Game dropped was a Maine Bull Moose at little over 175 yards using my handload Nosler Partion Spitzer 250 gr. over 51.2 gr of Reloader 15 for a muzzle velocity of 2570 fps. That 815 lb beast took two steps after taking that slug through both lungs and crumpled right there. I've since taken Black Bear, Whitetail, Wild Boar and even Coyotes using 180 Slugs at around 2700 fps... recoil is less abusive than my Remington 660 20" 308!... oh, and I've lent my 7lb, 15 oz 338-06 to two of my three brothers for their Moose Lottery permits and both were One Shot kills...
I built one a few years back on a savage 110. I could talk for days about the merits of the cartridge, nothing short of phenomenal. Very surprised it didn't take off more than it did.
Great video Joseph ! You two need to cover the big sister of the 9.3x62…. The 9.3x74. Also used a lot in Europe and Africa (even if the 9.3x62 seems more popular on the dark continent). A real classic too, you’ll love it Cheers from France 🇫🇷
Don't forget that there is also the 9,3x64 Brenneke. This round is equal to the 375 H&H in therms of energy but you have the advantage that you can use lighter bullets in order to shoot flat. Great video Joseph👍🏼
Shame that I couldn't find as wide selection of rifles as for the 9.3x62mm (and even the ammo itself). Yet, it (9.3x62mm) is still very adequate in Europe. But the 9.3x64mm is a flatter, further shooting cartridge. Both are great cartridges, especially for those ones, who lives in countries where ex or current military cartridges are big no-nos, as these 9.3 ones never were adapted by any military.
375 Ruger is my inexpensive big game. 8) Awesome cartridge, although gives scope eye to many who want to try mine. lol Mine cost less than $600 including the scope and rings. ;)
You are 100% correct; zebra meat is absolutely delicious. I loved watching this video, in part, due to the fact I have a Sako 85 Deluxe in 9.3x62. The nostalgia of the caliber captured my attention after I went on an African safari, so I purchased that rifle, as well as a Ruger African in 275 Rigby.
Old African here: If zebra meat are ‘good eats’ wouldn’t plain old horse meat be even more tender and delicious? After all, the zebra has to earn its living staying one step ahead of lion. I’m thinking tough and stringy. My father brought horse meat home a couple of times but I’ve never tried zebra. You’ve given me ‘food for thought.’
I recently acquired a deluxe version Husqvarna M640 9.3x62 built in 1946. It’s the one with nicely checkered walnut stock. It’s a little light but the limb saver recoil pad helps. Good luck finding your Husky. Check with Simpsons LTD.
I dont have a 9.3x62, but have always admired it. With two .35 Whelen's, a couple .375 H&H's, and a custom 9.3x64 Brenneke, and .375 Whelen Improved i am covered, highly respect its performance and history though.
Excellent video on a great, but sadly overlooked cartridge. I am a 35 Whelen fan, but have come close many times to getting a 9.3X62. You did forget to mention the CZ550 when talking about rifles available for this round.
They had 5 Mossberg Patriot rifles in that caliber at a gun shop here in western Pennsylvania. I walked away with a cerakoted stainless steel rifle, brand new for $290 , just because they had them awhile and they weren't selling. What a steal!!
Its not the Cartridge, it kicks about the same as the 30-06 with a 180-220 grns bullet. Shooting after a Pint does that to you, Or maybe the old lady found out he wasn't hunting game but skirt
@@simonsays582 Started shooting my 9.3 K98 when I was 17 and 140 pounds. Norma vulkan 232 grains around 2600 fps never had a bruise. is your rifle "super light" ??
From time to time I've had the opportunity to purchase used 9.3 rifles, but I've already got a 35 Whelen and 375 H&H. The last thing I need is a scarce oddball cartridge (by American standards) to reload. I'm glad you covered its ballistic potential because that was another reason I hesitated to make a purchase in the past; I wasn't sure how well it would perform. Now I know.
I have one in Tikka t3x lite hunter and another in a Zastava mauser copy. The tikka is a but of a hard hitter, but I think the 30-06 t3x I have in a synthetic stock is worse.
I've seen at least one complaint about the T3X stock not being the best, in terms of the angles IIRC, for handling heavy recoil. Speaking of the Zastava, there's one lefty available right now on GB in this ctg.
I have said it before, I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s. Col Townsend Whelen, O’Connor, Keith etc. Last of 19th century guys. So I LOVE all these proven rounds.
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I thought this might be a .35 Whelen episode. Poor man's cartridge for sure. 30-06 case necked out to .358 caliber shooting a 250 grain bullet at 2400 fps 3200 ft/lbs. ain't no slouch. Manageable recoil too.
35 Whelen and 9.3x62 identical in performace cartridges. But the 9.3 popular overseas and the 35 Whelen in the USA
@@WillyK51 Both were built to fit the standard (non magnum) actions the creators had readily available to them at the time with minimal modifications. With that said, they are not identical in performance. The 9.3x62 has quite a few heavier loadings available to it making it the obvious winner out of the two. Bullet weights are available for the 9.3x62 in 230gr, 250gr, 270gr, 285gr, 286gr, 300gr, and 325gr variants.
I love my 35 Whelen. I had it built two years ago and it’s become my do it all rifle
Zimbabwe acknowledges the 9.3x62 as legal for Cape Buffalo. When Tanzania, then Tanganyika, wrote its first game laws for hunting dangerous game, the 9.3x62 was the exception to the rule.
The 35 Whelen is a good cartridge, but it's not legal
@@Paul-q3m7kThe 35 Whelen would be my 2nd choice of rifle to build, with the 338-06 being my first choice, both are incredible performers and can be used on everything from whitetail to bison!
I've got an FN 9.3x62 and found it to be a truly outstanding cartridge!! I took a cape buff with mine - right frontal quartering shot - slipped the projie just in front of the right shoulder, and the Woodleigh 286gr RNSN was found by the rear left rib. Fantastic straight line penetration!! Buff wobbled 10yds and dropped in it's tracks!! STILL an effective cartridge today as it was in it's heyday in Africa!! 👍
I have a Czech former exchange student friend from 25 years ago who is a major forestry executive today. His family has leases on thousands of acres and hunt red deer and boars almost weekly. He also hunts bears in Kamchatka. His rifle is a Sauer with 2 barrels: .308 for Europe and 9.3x 62 for Asian and African dangerous game.
Like it's double barreled or it just has a quick-change barrel? Does 9.3x62 have the same bolt face as the .308? I've never even heard of that round
My apologies
They change barrels. 9,3x62 have the same bolt face.@@mfallen6894
Yes same Bolt face
Great gun and friend to have!
Addenda to my long comment regarding the 9.3x62. The gentleman I got my 9.3x62 from, who grew up hunting in Africa, now lives in the U.S, arranges African safaris and has many years experience hunting dangerous game, stated emphatically that the only shot that should be taken on elephants is a head shot, preferably within 50 yards. He said there is just too much to get through to get to the internal vital organs. He was also against scopes, even at low power because to hard to find the relatively small kill zone can be hard to find following recoil of the first shot or if the scope had been set at a high magnification.
I can buy 35 Whelen ammo but most gun shops in the US don't even know what the 9.3x62 is. Normally they don't know what the 35 Whelen is. They're all into black rifles.
It’s funny Americans clam to love guns, but they have absolutely no knowledge on them what so ever
There is even a 253 grain armor piercing bullet available for the 9.3x62, it's difficult to find because it's Russian. They use it in the 9x39mm, 9.3x53mmR, 9.3x64mm Brenneke, and a .338 Lapua Magnum wildcat they call 9x69mm SP-14.
9.3x62 is a very common cartridge in Germany. It is widely used for everything from the size of a roe deer up to red stag. It is definitely capable of taking out whatever you are going to hunt. It's a shame that we don't have larger game than red stag in Germany. We can't even make use of the true potential of this cartridge.
My father hunts with this caliber. Last month watched him dropped a 5x5 elk at 200 plus yards on a trot. One shot dropped on the spot. Cleaning the elk there was little to no meat damage. Round is top notch!
9.3X62 is very popular in South Africa. CZ made some good models.
I've always had a fondness for this cartridge, from afar. I've never owned one, but I'm a sucker for a cartridge or rifle with a history.
I've been using the 9.3 x 62mm since the early 1970's when I was first introduced to it in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe). My rifle sports a 20 inch barrel and weighs 8lbs including optics. The recoil is comparitively mild (but still a bit brisk) and in my opinion it is far better than the 375 in use. There was an interesting article by Chris Bekker, called "Does excessive Bullet Spin Contribute to Bullet Failure?" It compares the 9.3 with the 375 ... and the 9.3 wins. I've tried searching online for this document, but cannot find a link. I have a .pdf available if anyone wants to read it.
Hi
I'd be interested by the article.
Regards
Patrice
Savage made about 11 uncataloged 111FC rifles in 9.3x62 and I've been exceptionally pleased with mine. Harvested hog & bear with its 20" barrel. I cast a 250 & 300 bullet for 'cheap' plinking. Barnes 250 TSX & IMR 8208 deliver about 2400 fps @ 1 MOA and Nosler 250 AB will move large pieces of lung outside the body on hogs. Norma brass has more case capacity than PPU. RCBS dies are designed for using 30-06 brass necked up while Redding uses CIP dimensions which are larger in diameter at the base of web. RCBS dies swaged a belt into my PPU cases until I sent them back to RCBS for correction. Be aware of that if you have a 35 Whelen bored out & throated to 9.3x62. If you build a 9x39 you can use the same diameter bullets. Great medium bore!
Excellent coverage on the 9.3x62. thanks keep it up thanks again.
I fell into the lure of the light recoiling 9.3 X 62! The jokes on me! With a 286gr bullet at 2450fps in a lightweight Sako 85 Hunter - you kidding me??? The recoil was horrendous - the saving grace was it was super accurate! In fact I preferred my 375 H&H with a 300gr at 2550fps in a 10.5 lbs rifle vs the 9.3 Sako at 8lb scoped! It all depends on your rifle weight but a 375 with all the "African" accoutrements ( 1/4 rib , safari contour barrel & stock) tends to come in at around 10lbs. So beware there is no free lunch! 9.3's tend to be lighter!
I suspect you could re bbl any 30-06 action length in 9.3
Also the ballistics were developed on an old 96 Mauser action.
With safe hand loads in a 98 Mauser action or modern action able to handle 30-06 or270 chamber pressure , the increase in velocity, my Husqvarna 1640 in 9.3x62 will shoot 296gr bullets 2600fps safely.
I also like 35 whelen, 338--06
Super information on this rifle cartridge we here in the states never hear about. Thanks Joseph. Always love the information you share with us!
Another thing with cartridges with a bit lower pressures is extraction. The higher the pressure, the more likely to have extraction issues.
I know Zastava builds mausers in 9.3x62 and used to import that caliber to the US but haven't in a couple years.
To answer the question, yes. A Gibbs African Hunter Rifle in 72 caliber, obtained from Dixiegunworks for just over $2,000, with a 550 grain round ball sitting on top of 150 grains of black powder, travelling at 1440fps delivers 2531 foot pounds of energy and a TKO value of 80 - TWICE that of a 375H&H.
Black powder is easily and cheaply made, so are percussion caps. Lead can be found anywhere.
It's a cheap dangerous game rifle, and MORE than adequate at 50 yards for just about anything if you're using hardened lead balls. Just don't miss.
About 12 years ago, I saw a 9.3x63 Husquvana with a German-style mount and scope for $1500 at a gun show. Always regret not buying it, but my first son was on the way.
Come to Sweden then. We have lots of Husqvarna rifles chambered in 9,3x62. They are usually around 500 us dollars
Just may do that. I enjoyed my previous trips to Sweden. I’ll pick up a rifle, a few Moras, and another fishing reel.
@@nvojc8617That's the spirit! 😁
The scope and mounts would be around 1k
No one has commented on the letter perfect imitation of Ron SPOMER? Didn't it seem curious that, with a slight change in the timber of the voice, you could play this with a photo of Ron on the screen and no one would know that it wasn't him?
Bravo!
And who besides RON could put aside his ego in order to share this gag with us?
BRAVO!
DOUG out
I have the 9.3x62 rifle. Its a great round.
That was great content Europe is ahead of us in that respect !
Thank you 😊
Love seeing Ron collaborate with Joseph. They have very similar opinions and take on things, so they seem to work well together. It’s great seeing Ron mentor these guys who will be carrying the torch for the next generation. Very good job on the videos! Ps I love the backcountry hunting podcast
The 35 Whelen
I’ve heard that Zebra 🦓 was excellent eating.
It is
8x57JS next!
I don't think there is an issue with the formula that calculates energy. I think the problem is how we interpret the effect of that energy. The formula just tells you what is happening at the muzzle. We add variables such as weather conditions, altitude, intended target, manufacturer/type of bullet, and so forth, and so on. Double the mass and double the energy. Double the velocity and quadruple the energy. Physics 101.
As an german hunter I prefare the traditional Mauser 98 system. Often copied, never reached as well the Suhler side-by-side shotguns, over and under (,,Bockflinte") Drilling or combined side-by-side Büchsflinte, or similar over-and-under Bockbüchsflinte. These old style manufactured guns put every plastic-gun into shame. 👍
9.2 is the Continental competition to the .375 H&H
Speaking to lots of African PH's they say it kicks too much.
Personally I would go for the .375 H&H or .4I6 Rigby.
Doesn't require a magnum action. Great cartridge
So thats gonna be the 35 Whelen or 9.3x62..
Very good presentation on a great cartridge.
I recently bought an husqvarna mod 46 that one is built on the mauser 96 action in 9,3x57 i love that rifle very mild recoil but hits the target like a hammer norma alaska bullets 285grain
Been wanting to get a Sauer 100 in 9.3x62. They are out of stock everywhere though.
Considering 308 is commonly used on bears even polar bears and eland in Africa this cartridge seems more than capable for anything you’ll find roaming earth these days lol
Amazing Bull you got!
Thank you for more or less stating that a cartridge may look inferior on paper, are actually a low-recoil goldilocks cartridge when paired with tough projectiles. This is the story of the 6.5x55 Swede, it does not look like much on paper but is can take large game when paired with a tough bullet and when the hunter does their job. African hunter W. D. M. Bell killed hundreds of elephants with his favorite rifle the Mannlicher-Schoenauer 6.5×54mm and the 7x57 Mauser, I can assure you the 9.3x62 mm can dispatch an elephant with authority.
I heard that Bell would pull the projectile on 140 gn. cartridge and turn it around so that the flat end was up front. And killed many elephants with the 6.5 mm. The reason being that an elephant's frontal skull is honeycomb in structure and that long 140gn. would make it to the brain.
@@paulstaney325 Interesting, it sounds illogical though. The higher the force/pressure in a smaller area is going to break through what it is trying to go through. Think of tempered safety glass in a car window, you can hit it with a baseball, a fist, an elbow because all of those item spread the force over a larger area and the glass usually does not break, but hit that same window with less force, but in an extremely small area and the window shatters because all the same force is now on a sharpened steel point. A bullet facing backwards is going to spread force out and not penetrate as deep, a tough pointed bullet will concentrate the energy and bust through tough bone and keep penetrating.
Read about the 9.3×62's great performance on game animals 40 years back. Never been very popular in the U.S. or Canada
It's a crying shame. Great cartridge from what I read years ago. Maybe Elmer Keith wrote the article? If he endorsed that cartridge....well you know its going to thump pretty hard.
The 9.3x74R as well.
Browning makes gun for 9 3×62. Have a semi bar longtrack i handload with 250 grain nosler accupoint.
My Drilling uses 9,3x72 ammo. I have a few boxes of it. Is it the same as 9,3x62?
My only one..... 9,3x62 Starting in 1989.......
9,3x62 is very popular her in Sweden , two different hunters one 6.5x55 or you go 9.3x62😅
the 9.3x62 is in the middle between 35 Whelen and 338 win mag?
35 whelen for me
Yar.
MURICA.
Classic do-it all chamberig.
I get 2450fps with a 286gn Swift Aframe out of my 20”barrel rifle in 9.3x63 with less than moa groups
You know what's better a 12ga 385grain hornady sst slug 2100 fps
3006 is the cheap mans magnum. With buffalo bore ammo u can get 300win mag performance. And shoots heavy weight bullets.
Had long ago a shortbarreled 9,3x62. Sold it / Recoil.
This channel never talks about a 340 WBY. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Have you ever had a deer scream when shot ? I bet you can find a lot of dangerous game rifles in AK pawn shops I tried to sell a rifle at one , they offered me less than I paid for the scope.
45-70 Govt ?
So to be clear, this is not the man who stole the lady's deer
300 win mag or 300 rum 7mm rum 416 ruger 458 win mag are my first few thoughts.
Poor man’s dangerous game cartridge is the 30-06 with 220 rain round nose
30-06…. Ain’t nothing walking the earth that an 06 can’t bring down.
How do the 9.3x62 and .35 Whelen compare?
I am descended frim german and dutch settlers thay came to africa.... I don't know anuone who owns a rifle in this calibre and I've never even heard of it until aboit 3 mo ths ago.
Still, I am fascinated
Never understood the desire to hunt in Africa. You have the same chance of getting dengue fever or malaria than making the record books.
35 Whelen All the way in America. Commercial ammo readily available. Much better choices
I am a great 9.3x62 fan. I am a Spaniard, and use it on wild boar driven hunts, as well as on roe deer stalks. I love it. I am delighted to see that it is becoming well-known in the USA as well. It deserves every bit of your attention, and is gaining popularity very quickly. It is a perfectly designed classic, ahead of its time, back in 1905, steadily gaining recognition. It was all but disappeared after the Second World War, but is coming back with authority. It will be loved by many American hunters as well.
If I may, I would like to recommend a monographic book on this cartridge. "9.3 X 62 Mauser Journal" (Third edition) by Hendrik Van Der Schyff, in 2021. It is very comprehensive, with history, ballistic comparisons, anecdotes, and a whole lot of experiences by different hunters.
I have a drilling double 12 with a 9.3x 57R rifle below.
Would you know anything about this size rifle cartridge?
Great round!
9,3x62 fan too 😉👍Blaser R8 and Bar Mk3 HC in South of France for wild boars and roe deers, using Norma Tip Strike and Brenneke TOG
35 whelen with 1:12 twist and heavy 310 grain woodleigh bullets just as effective
@@jamiehurtt3530 At much higher pressures. Not every commercial action can handle that weight bullet if you are loading it to try for 9.3x62mm performance. Elmer Keith loaded 310s heavy in his .35 Whelen, but he was known for being reckless with his loads. :)
Poor men dont get to hunt dangerous game....so....🤷♂️
Does looking for a wounded hog count?
@@varietasVeritas I don't think they qualify as dangerous game though they can definitely wreak havoc
@@workct4102 I think if the US didn't have such a big feral hog problem they would definitely be considered more dangeorus and exotic game.
This is a very popular cartridge in Sweden, and has usually been used on Moose almost exclusively, but has become popular in the southern half for Wild Boar. It is probably the most allround for clambering for big game one can own. We have ridiculously oppressive gun laws here, and can only own 6 long guns for hunting. Switch barrel rifles have become popular. And I would say a rifle with 6.5x55 and 9.3x63 would handle most hunting north of the Alps in Europe.
Six long guns per person seems like plenty. 12 ga, sub gauge, rimfire, smaller caliber rifle, large caliber rifle, and one left over. Now if it’s per household and that require accommodating children or a spouse, that gets a little tough.
7x64, 7x65 look great as well.
@@northerntier87they are, believe me 😉
@@Snailz5
You Sir, are no lover of rifles. Six long guns have barely started to whet my appetite, but then I am an American. 😄
@@mtkoslowski I'm also an American. I just don't need 6 tools to do what I can do with 4. I think we get head in the clouds and buy lots of guns for scenarios we never hunt. ex: I NEED an elk gun that can reach out 700 yards despite never having hunted elk or shot any game beyond 300. We get marketed into buying a bunch of shit we don't need and then convince ourselves they were a good purchase afterwards.
Hi im hunting mainly moose in nothen Sweden, im been hunting since i was 18 (1975) with a Carl Gustaf 1900 6,5 55. About 15 years ago i was sick and tired of searching the animals becuse they was running more than 100 yards after a deadly shot. I read the statistics of some cartridges an found that the 9.3 74 thats i a commonly used in France - dual barrel guns, the statistics said that 80% of the games dropped less than 20 yards from where they got hit by the bullet. So the choise was simple- the 9,3 62 and the 9,3 74 is commonly loaded for the same performance, so i purchased a Sauer 202 9,3 62.. Last year i purchased a barrel brake to get some less recoil and today I have a recoil as the 6,5 55 at the 9,3 yay
Big 9.3x62 fan here. I use my Ruger Hawkeye loaded with Prvi 286gr rounds on whitetail here in Wisconsin. Soft jacketed bullet lead tip round nose with great expansion. Great in thick wooded areas. Made an 80 yard shot on a 10 pointer, drt. 1inch expansion 246 gr retained. Have had similar results so far.
Hope you had a good Wisconsin hunt this year!
Cheers, from Central Wis!
Also a 9.3x62 Wisconsin hunter. Great cartridge! Mine are CZ550s. I use 250g tsx at 2,555 f/s for everything from whitetail to black bear to nilgai in Texas in open areas and 286g tsx for the great northwoods in WI. Would be a perfect moose cartridge as well. Agreed--excellent in thick wooded areas. Easy to shoot. The slow push recoil is much easier to shoot than even my 6.5x285. Go Badgers.
I have a 9.3x62 CZ 550 full stock carbine that I carry when hunting big game in the Alberta Foothills. I carry it because I am in grizzly country and don’t want anything less when I am field dressing a deer at sundown and realize I have company. My handload is a 286 Nosler partitions and 59 grains of Varget , chronograph shows 2480 fps. Normally I use a 270 for deer but not in the foothills….
Wow that load is producing over 3900 ftlbs of energy.
@@the_watcher_abc yes. This is a great comfort should a grizzly show up and want to take my white tail buck off me, and have me for dessert…
@@the_watcher_abc not fun to shoot off a bench.
@@maxcontax no kidding. A 300wm pushing a 180g pill at 3130fps is producing 3917ftlb and that’s on the upper end of the energy envelop of the 300wm. Wow.
I’ve always liked the 9.3x62 because of its versatility but never compared I to a 300wm.
@@the_watcher_abc as I do more field trials with cartridges (aka hunting) I have noted that slower velocities and cup and core bullets seems to kill or stop better than very fast new design bullets, often these new bullets have less Sectional Density, they are lighter..
Stopping power and killing power are related but not the same. My 9.3 handload combines a partition with a slower velocity of about 2400 fps to impact.
I have never had to shoot a grizzly with this but decking whitetails has been profound. Even with my 260 Remington, slowing Sierra 140’s to 2530 fps with 43 grains of MRP has resulted in instant collapse. Ido not get that with my 143 grain ELD-X @ 2812 fps MV.
Hitting a whitetail at 150 yds broadside with a 9.3x62, they are lifted off their feet and laid down 4 feet down range.
After maxing out velocities for years I am discovering slower velocities. My first clue was African favoured cartridges, old and new. Not hi-vel.
A Poor Man cant travel to Namibia to hunt anything.
Poor men take moose w/ .338 and 30/30 and .22lr while working their trap lines.
At least I see I’m not the only one trapping still!
Poor man’s…etc is a figure of speech.
I used a 375 H&H for years and then my wife bought me a CZ Model 550 American in 9.3x62 Mauser. I also owned a Rem Model 700 Classic in 350 Rem Mag. I no longer own the 350 and no longer shoot the 375. That's how good the 9,3x62 is. Great cartridge.
I mentioned my late polish doctor friend who lived in Kenya for years. Guided rich English dubs and would tell me hilarious stories about those Englishmen. One how the doctor guided one gent to a herd of elephants..told the gent to shot one bull. The bull spotted them and of course became agitated and began to charge them somewhat.
As the doc relayed the event..he turned around and the English gent was running away so..the doc had to shoot the elephant himself m. As soon as the elephant succumbed the Englushbgent ran up..jump up on the elephant and started to demand he got his picture shot of the elephant with him sitting on top.
The docs favorite rifle was. 375 H&H…and he had several.
As long as a cartridge works..it’s good enough.
Lastly, this old doctor friend was truly regretful for having killed elephants and rhinos. And his pictures backed up his claim of many of these takes. You could sense his regret and his testimony to me was “Why did I kill so many? It was truly pointless” he would always tell me.
So my question is..why would anyone want to kill those magnificent animals..? One can argue in some areas the elephants are over grazing. But where are these suppose to live? Exist?
I guess we’ll never learn to not screw up wild America as we are doing. Altering things to where now there has to be whitetail culling to keep the numbers down.
Do not get me started on mule deer or elk numbers…I know these facts well and with CED..we may very well lose most of the mule deer herds and elk…even moose.
Just saying
That’s “CWD”…chronic wasting disease and it’s out of control in Colorado and a growing disease throughout North America’s lower 48 and some areas of Canada.
Thanks to cattle ranchers.
You set the .375 H&H aside for the 9.3? Say it ain’t so???
You forgot the cz 550… that’s my favourite modern rifle chambered in this cartridge
I shot my elk this year with a 9.3x62 using a 250gr Barnes TTSX.
Absolute sledge hammer, even at 300yds which after the shot was lasered as I didn't have time.
This is the second elk I've shot with this rifle and am very impressed with the performance.
I highly recommend this very versatile cartridge.
My rifle is built on a Savage model 111 re-chambered from a 30-06 by Jes Reboring in Oregon.
Think I peid less than $ 500.00 for one of the most accurate rifles I own!
A local gun shop in western Pennsylvania had 5 Mossberg Patriot rifles in 375 Ruger that weren't selling and I picked up a stainless, cerakoted one in that caliber for $290 brand spanking new!! Sure, Ammo isn't cheap and I'm really happy I bought 2 boxes then, for $49/ box, now between $85 & $105/ box, but still, what a deal at $290!!! With the 270 gr Hornady sp, interlocks, 2,850 fps!! 3 shot, 5/8" groups at 100 yds
It’s a cool cartridge. That’s my idea of a poor man’s big game cartridge since it can be found in affordable rifles due to the normal length action. How’s the recoil on such a light gun?
@@Snailz5 it was stiff, I won't lie, but added a muzzle break at only $190 and it's like a 30'06 with (correction, not 180's, but 270 gr) Before the break, it was noticeably harsher than my 300 Remington Ultra Mag with 165's
good lord thats a steal
@@wiseguysoutdoors2954you had it right, recoil is similar to 3006 with 180s. Can't find a 270 gr .30 cal for the 06.
Another "poor-man's Magnum" I discovered nearly 3 decades ago is the now standardized 338-06 A-Square... I had read several articles and load data etc. and became interested in seeking to obtain one in a classic bolt gun. Not finding any reasonably priced examples (at the time) I set about looking to build one. A poorly sporterized Mauser 98 was in the used gun rack at the local gunshop for only $175... A tour through the Brownell's catalog found the Adam's&Bennett barrel, a Fajen stock and a Timney trigger... I obtained Leupold QR mounts and a Beautiful pre-owned Schmidt&Bender 30mm FFP 3-12X56 SCOPE and blued and assembled the gun and optics as well as installed an aftermarket mag baseplate and tuned it all to shoot into 1 inch at 100 yards all day long.
My first Game dropped was a Maine Bull Moose at little over 175 yards using my handload Nosler Partion Spitzer 250 gr. over 51.2 gr of Reloader 15 for a muzzle velocity of 2570 fps. That 815 lb beast took two steps after taking that slug through both lungs and crumpled right there. I've since taken Black Bear, Whitetail, Wild Boar and even Coyotes using 180 Slugs at around 2700 fps... recoil is less abusive than my Remington 660 20" 308!... oh, and I've lent my 7lb, 15 oz 338-06 to two of my three brothers for their Moose Lottery permits and both were One Shot kills...
I built one a few years back on a savage 110. I could talk for days about the merits of the cartridge, nothing short of phenomenal. Very surprised it didn't take off more than it did.
.338-06 has better ballistic coefficient than .358 caliber too, but probably harder caliber to find in a rifle.
@@Kurtdog63 You know.
Great video Joseph ! You two need to cover the big sister of the 9.3x62…. The 9.3x74. Also used a lot in Europe and Africa (even if the 9.3x62 seems more popular on the dark continent). A real classic too, you’ll love it
Cheers from France 🇫🇷
35 whelen
Don't forget that there is also the 9,3x64 Brenneke. This round is equal to the 375 H&H in therms of energy but you have the advantage that you can use lighter bullets in order to shoot flat.
Great video Joseph👍🏼
Shame that I couldn't find as wide selection of rifles as for the 9.3x62mm (and even the ammo itself). Yet, it (9.3x62mm) is still very adequate in Europe. But the 9.3x64mm is a flatter, further shooting cartridge. Both are great cartridges, especially for those ones, who lives in countries where ex or current military cartridges are big no-nos, as these 9.3 ones never were adapted by any military.
375 Ruger is my inexpensive big game. 8) Awesome cartridge, although gives scope eye to many who want to try mine. lol Mine cost less than $600 including the scope and rings. ;)
I always wanted a 550 in 9.3x62. I probably need to get on it the way things are going! Shoot straight, Stay safe, God bless!
I had one. It would put three 270gr Speer bullets in a 1/2" at 100 yards. Lapua brass and H4350.
I always wanted a Remington 7600 in 9.3x62
I had one in 35 Whelen. Synthetic stock, carbine model.@@anonymousf454
@@anonymousf454 Man, wouldn't that be cool???
I'm still pissed at CZ for discontinuing the 550...Why? It's an iconic rifle?
You are 100% correct; zebra meat is absolutely delicious. I loved watching this video, in part, due to the fact I have a Sako 85 Deluxe in 9.3x62. The nostalgia of the caliber captured my attention after I went on an African safari, so I purchased that rifle, as well as a Ruger African in 275 Rigby.
Old African here: If zebra meat are ‘good eats’ wouldn’t plain old horse meat be even more tender and delicious? After all, the zebra has to earn its living staying one step ahead of lion. I’m thinking tough and stringy.
My father brought horse meat home a couple of times but I’ve never tried zebra. You’ve given me ‘food for thought.’
35 whelen? If it's not, it should be...
I've been wanting an old Husqvarna rifle in 9.3x62 for a while. I might have to finally buy one.
I recently acquired a deluxe version Husqvarna M640 9.3x62 built in 1946. It’s the one with nicely checkered walnut stock. It’s a little light but the limb saver recoil pad helps. Good luck finding your Husky. Check with Simpsons LTD.
@@davewinter2688 yeah, that's where I look at them. Thanks.
There are a bunch on GunBroker. I got one there back in January.
I remember not long ago they said in Africa they used 7x57 Mauser.
I dont have a 9.3x62, but have always admired it. With two .35 Whelen's, a couple .375 H&H's, and a custom 9.3x64 Brenneke, and .375 Whelen Improved i am covered, highly respect its performance and history though.
Excellent video on a great, but sadly overlooked cartridge. I am a 35 Whelen fan, but have come close many times to getting a 9.3X62. You did forget to mention the CZ550 when talking about rifles available for this round.
Damn, it's a shame what happened to CZ550.
At least some of us can buy Zastava in 9,3x62
Yes, the 550 is no longer made. 😢
@@raleighthomas3079 That's a shame too, but there are quite a few out there on the used market in excellent condition.
Only overlooked in the US...
Rest of the worlds knows it...
375 ruger! Hands down the winner 🏆
Dang it man you beat me to it!
They had 5 Mossberg Patriot rifles in that caliber at a gun shop here in western Pennsylvania. I walked away with a cerakoted stainless steel rifle, brand new for $290 , just because they had them awhile and they weren't selling. What a steal!!
So similar to my 35 Whelen . Americas version
I worked with a AK guy who decided to buy a 9.3x62. He came to work with the biggest blackeye.
Its not the Cartridge, it kicks about the same as the 30-06 with a 180-220 grns bullet. Shooting after a Pint does that to you, Or maybe the old lady found out he wasn't hunting game but skirt
@@WillyK51 Yeah, no. It kicks a lot more than a 30-06....
30-06 has never left a bruise on my shoulder, 9.3x62 has.
@@simonsays582 Started shooting my 9.3 K98 when I was 17 and 140 pounds. Norma vulkan 232 grains around 2600 fps never had a bruise. is your rifle "super light" ??
@@hugtango , I wouldn't know what light is by rifle standards. It has a mannlicher stock on it though.
From time to time I've had the opportunity to purchase used 9.3 rifles, but I've already got a 35 Whelen and 375 H&H. The last thing I need is a scarce oddball cartridge (by American standards) to reload. I'm glad you covered its ballistic potential because that was another reason I hesitated to make a purchase in the past; I wasn't sure how well it would perform. Now I know.
Absolutely love my 9.3. Moose to Elk never had an issue.
I used to have a 35whellan ai that I called My poor mans dangerous game load !
Ol' Jerry's. 35 Whelen
Imr 4064 is great for high velocity 250 grain loads, and the 4895's (both imr and H) work well across the board with all weights.
I have one in Tikka t3x lite hunter and another in a Zastava mauser copy. The tikka is a but of a hard hitter, but I think the 30-06 t3x I have in a synthetic stock is worse.
I've seen at least one complaint about the T3X stock not being the best, in terms of the angles IIRC, for handling heavy recoil. Speaking of the Zastava, there's one lefty available right now on GB in this ctg.
Really good, intetesting video. My compliments, sir.
I have said it before, I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s. Col Townsend Whelen, O’Connor, Keith etc. Last of 19th century guys. So I LOVE all these proven rounds.
All those men being my favorites, living in a time I can only dream about.
Good choice of topics, great information, and fine presentation -- thank you!
I’ll keep my 338 RUM, I’m pushing a 225gr at 3300 fps and over 5000lb of energy.. flat shooting and hard hitting
That Rum is a Womper Stomper for sure.