In the long run this new stadium will bring money to the state and county along with the city of Brookpark. Cleveland is fighting for 8 or 9 days a year. That makes no sense. I think the owners of downtown restaurants, etc should get the first right to open restaurants, etc at the new stadium location. Cleveland can do something else with the property along the lake. After seeing the rain game a couple of weeks ago if there can be a domed stadium there should be one.
@@frankstallone3864whatever buddy, I agree. I’d rather have an owner that’s willing to spend top dollar on our team and build the dome. Weather has never helped us in any recent history, so as a fan I’m done suffering in crap weather to watch a game.
Defensive ends don't win games. Myles Garrett was drafted #1 in 2017 and the Browns went 0-17 that year. Defensive Ends only make one or two impactful plays in a game, where as a quarterback makes dozens of impactful plays that determine the fate of games. If the Browns don't draft Cam Ward, they will regret it.
makes no difference without a qb. they have the dpoy and have 3 wins, and he's playing better this year than last year. they can have two garrett's and maybe be a 5 win football team. its a qb driven league. commanders has first rounders all on the defensive line, couldnt win. traded two away, got a qb and magically playoffs.
If Carter is a stud then you guys are crazy not wanting to grab him to pair with Myles which would take out all the double team's you take best player available because we need way too many things you can get offensive players later in the draft
I mean you kinda do. Bridge options never work out, and eventually you have to take a shot. I think Broncos are happy with Bo Nix, and everyone laughed at them. Mid rounders have almost no success as a fqb. there are literally 2 in the nfl since 2017. (hurts and purdy)
Tony is probably right about Winston not coming back. But they could still be playing DTR or Zappe to tank, even if Winston were coming back. I agree though, I don't think he'll be back.
If they draft someone in the 1st round you assume they are a starter. If they Draft a QB, sign a free agent and have 5 QBs on the roster. If DW4 plays one preseason game, gets the job it’s another lost season. Even if there is a glimpse of how he played with the Texans he can’t finish a season. Who do they build the offense on with 5 QB’s? I feel bad for the season ticket holders, this is ridiculous. Imagine how expensive it will be to take a family to the new dome…I will pass
I don't think they will draft a QB in the first round and if one of the 2 QBs are there when their number is in I think they will trade down but not unless someone wants to pay up.. If one of those 2 falls to where they are in the second round or another QB who they think has potential they may draft him in the second round. First round they should draft the best player available regardless of position, that is except a kicker. If you don't want a new dome then don't go to the new dome. I'm hoping they put a casino there too since now you have to go downtown or to the Eastside for a casino. There is nothing on the Westside other than the Expo Center.
Jaxson Dart is a mix between a young Kirk Cousins and a gunslinger type like Jay Cutler Browns should go get this kid out of Ole Miss---Better than Eli Manning some would say
I have watched a lot of Dart and believe we(Browns) should take him in the 3rd round or maybe even the 2nd depending on how he looks in predraft workouts. He is accurate, good in the RPO and has a nice deep ball. I would take trade back a few slots, maybe with Raiders or Jets and pick up additional 2nd or third rounder. I would then draft the best OL or DL available with our first pick then go after Dart.
Why is Deshaun Watson even involved in the competition? His on-field performance certainly doesn't merit it! I didn't cheer for Deshaun Watson's injury last year, but if the Browns put him back on the field, I will actively pray for him to sustain a career-ending injury. And I don't give a damn if people think that makes me a bad fan or person. The Browns should take the hint and MOVE ON!
Ownership and FO has so much invested they're hellbent on making it work. Crazy because he hasnt been good in a half decade. And now he's injury prone. If they trot him back out there, they're bigger fools than I thought. I like to think hes just getting cut post june 1 2026, but never know with these ppl
If they dont the franchise is going into full rebuild within a year. New staff and hc. Their best bet is to hit on a rookie qb while riding out that DW contract and getting back to playoffs. This was a playoff team a year ago with average qb play. If you bring in a bridge, youre hoping for a flacco miracle again...and then the following year you'll have to do it again because you'll be mediocre and not bad enough to pick a qb. They literally have done this so many times since 99. They punt the qb hoping for next year and it never happens. the best qbs in the nfl werent regarded as generational prospects. since theyre not firing anyone they trust them, so if they cant trust them to develop a rookie qb the top of the draft then why the hell are they here? figure out what offensive scheme you want to run and draft a the qb for it, sign a vet that also fits that scheme and give the rookie time. im not a fan of riding with kirk or rodgers and hoping it works out. if you gave me them and ward/sanders, then okay i can work with that. No other position they draft will get them wins. they have the DPOY on the roster and have 3 wins. go draft the damn quarterback.
FIVE straight 300 yard games by Flacco is not "average" QB play! I'd argue that the Browns were circling the drain before Flacco inexplicably came off the coach and carried the Browns to the playoffs!
If they draft a QB in the first round then the front office will remove all doubt about their stupidity and Browns fans can give up and find a new team!
Berry will do what Berry does best which is draft busts and mediocre roster fillers. How many of Berry's draft picks have become All Pro's?!?! Compare that to the same amount of time Berry has to GM to Ozzie Newsome's first 4 years. Same years comparing the two and the number that Ozzie Newsome had even early in his career is staggering. Face it folks, Andrew Berry has destroyed this team in just a few short years.
What makes you think Mahomes would do well here especially if they don't bring Kelce with him? I would rather they bring Reid here to coach. I love his acting in the commercials. He is very funny, almost as good as Baker Mayfield.
No thank you, too much else needed before they make the move for a franchise QB in the draft. They have a high first round pick, don't waste it on the QBs who might be available at their pick. They are too chancy this year. Best player available no matter the position.
No. The reason is simple: there is no quarterback prospect (to date) talented enough to be picked that high. It would be an extreme reach based on who's currently available. The best course of action is to choose the best player available regardless of position.
Yes. You dont have a choice. You have no future at the position, a bridge buys you nothing. If the team is mediocre next year they're all fired, so tell me why they should trade down for more picks or take any other position? They were a playoff team last year with average qb play. Punting the position only delays the inevitable, and do we expect them to be in this position next year? again if they are...they're all fired anyways. Also they dont really have time for projects or mid round development. KS has shown no ability to develop any qbs. His success has mostly come off Browns having weak schedules after a down year and they play teams with trash qbs.
Ah...another Mayfield hater I see! He's having a career year in TB and has passed for nearly 4,300 yards with one game to go. He's 10X better than any QB on our roster.
40 QBs since 1999. I have no words.
10 since they dumped Baker. Just losers.
Never thought I'd long for the days of Case Keenum.
Case Keenum was a very good backup compared to the backup QB situation right now and probably the 20 or so years before he was here.
😂
Hey ! Johnny Manziel is available ! Go get him ! He's frikkin' awesome. Right ? LOL ! CLOWN-ASS OWNERSHIP !
The Browns had 5 different Quarterbacks start games last year.
Zapee to start QB and DTR in the wildcat ---both are tank commanders
In the long run this new stadium will bring money to the state and county along with the city of Brookpark. Cleveland is fighting for 8 or 9 days a year. That makes no sense. I think the owners of downtown restaurants, etc should get the first right to open restaurants, etc at the new stadium location. Cleveland can do something else with the property along the lake. After seeing the rain game a couple of weeks ago if there can be a domed stadium there should be one.
found Haslam's burner account
@@frankstallone3864whatever buddy, I agree. I’d rather have an owner that’s willing to spend top dollar on our team and build the dome. Weather has never helped us in any recent history, so as a fan I’m done suffering in crap weather to watch a game.
@nathanweitzel5804 lol just say you don't follow the Browns at all.
Thursday Night snowbowl with the Steelers wasn't exactly 30 years ago.
On the Haslam payroll I see.
abdul carter
Defensive ends don't win games. Myles Garrett was drafted #1 in 2017 and the Browns went 0-17 that year. Defensive Ends only make one or two impactful plays in a game, where as a quarterback makes dozens of impactful plays that determine the fate of games. If the Browns don't draft Cam Ward, they will regret it.
@@StevenC32Yeah I agree also they should spend they're 1st 4 pks on OFFENSE hands down
makes no difference without a qb. they have the dpoy and have 3 wins, and he's playing better this year than last year. they can have two garrett's and maybe be a 5 win football team. its a qb driven league. commanders has first rounders all on the defensive line, couldnt win. traded two away, got a qb and magically playoffs.
@@StevenC32 Same. How I feel about Cam is how I felt about Josh Allen. And crazy part is Cam might be the most poised qb I've ever scouted.
If Carter is a stud then you guys are crazy not wanting to grab him to pair with Myles which would take out all the double team's you take best player available because we need way too many things you can get offensive players later in the draft
Tony Grossi said that
Jerry Jeudy is second to Ja'Marr Chase in catches and receptions. Receptions and catches are the same thing.
Maybe he meant catches and yards.
You don't just Draft a QB because you need one.
I mean you kinda do. Bridge options never work out, and eventually you have to take a shot. I think Broncos are happy with Bo Nix, and everyone laughed at them. Mid rounders have almost no success as a fqb. there are literally 2 in the nfl since 2017. (hurts and purdy)
STOP SUPPORTING A LOSING TEAM THAT DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO STAY IN CLEVELAND
Brookpark is still basically Cleveland lmao 🤣
ESPNCleveland, please, help Chopz with his background & backlighting.
Tony is probably right about Winston not coming back. But they could still be playing DTR or Zappe to tank, even if Winston were coming back. I agree though, I don't think he'll be back.
If you tank, you have no honor. The NFL has had no honor for a long time.
Zappe...the sacrificial lamb for today!
Where is B@ker?
If they draft someone in the 1st round you assume they are a starter. If they Draft a QB, sign a free agent and have 5 QBs on the roster. If DW4 plays one preseason game, gets the job it’s another lost season. Even if there is a glimpse of how he played with the Texans he can’t finish a season. Who do they build the offense on with 5 QB’s? I feel bad for the season ticket holders, this is ridiculous. Imagine how expensive it will be to take a family to the new dome…I will pass
I don't think they will draft a QB in the first round and if one of the 2 QBs are there when their number is in I think they will trade down but not unless someone wants to pay up.. If one of those 2 falls to where they are in the second round or another QB who they think has potential they may draft him in the second round. First round they should draft the best player available regardless of position, that is except a kicker.
If you don't want a new dome then don't go to the new dome. I'm hoping they put a casino there too since now you have to go downtown or to the Eastside for a casino. There is nothing on the Westside other than the Expo Center.
DTR progress this year≥>> 💩smh
Hey Jimmy we should resign flaco ...no no we can't intimidate DW ... 🙄🍺
Jaxson Dart is a mix between a young Kirk Cousins and a gunslinger type like Jay Cutler Browns should go get this kid out of Ole Miss---Better than Eli Manning some would say
I have watched a lot of Dart and believe we(Browns) should take him in the 3rd round or maybe even the 2nd depending on how he looks in predraft workouts. He is accurate, good in the RPO and has a nice deep ball. I would take trade back a few slots, maybe with Raiders or Jets and pick up additional 2nd or third rounder. I would then draft the best OL or DL available with our first pick then go after Dart.
@@elainesolomon6354 hell yeah 👍 fosho
Why is Deshaun Watson even involved in the competition? His on-field performance certainly doesn't merit it! I didn't cheer for Deshaun Watson's injury last year, but if the Browns put him back on the field, I will actively pray for him to sustain a career-ending injury. And I don't give a damn if people think that makes me a bad fan or person. The Browns should take the hint and MOVE ON!
Kevin and AB are desperately trying to make Watson work still he’s 29 years old and still in good shape but his mental is not there
Ownership and FO has so much invested they're hellbent on making it work. Crazy because he hasnt been good in a half decade. And now he's injury prone. If they trot him back out there, they're bigger fools than I thought. I like to think hes just getting cut post june 1 2026, but never know with these ppl
The QB room has been a DISASTER after the Watson trade. How does Berry and DePo still have jobs???????? Do they have pictures of Jimmy?
@ Fire Ivy League 3!
If they dont the franchise is going into full rebuild within a year. New staff and hc. Their best bet is to hit on a rookie qb while riding out that DW contract and getting back to playoffs. This was a playoff team a year ago with average qb play. If you bring in a bridge, youre hoping for a flacco miracle again...and then the following year you'll have to do it again because you'll be mediocre and not bad enough to pick a qb. They literally have done this so many times since 99. They punt the qb hoping for next year and it never happens. the best qbs in the nfl werent regarded as generational prospects. since theyre not firing anyone they trust them, so if they cant trust them to develop a rookie qb the top of the draft then why the hell are they here? figure out what offensive scheme you want to run and draft a the qb for it, sign a vet that also fits that scheme and give the rookie time. im not a fan of riding with kirk or rodgers and hoping it works out. if you gave me them and ward/sanders, then okay i can work with that. No other position they draft will get them wins. they have the DPOY on the roster and have 3 wins. go draft the damn quarterback.
FIVE straight 300 yard games by Flacco is not "average" QB play! I'd argue that the Browns were circling the drain before Flacco inexplicably came off the coach and carried the Browns to the playoffs!
If they draft a QB in the first round then the front office will remove all doubt about their stupidity and Browns fans can give up and find a new team!
They better
the Browns are the longest soap opera in the history of the NFL
Berry will do what Berry does best which is draft busts and mediocre roster fillers. How many of Berry's draft picks have become All Pro's?!?! Compare that to the same amount of time Berry has to GM to Ozzie Newsome's first 4 years. Same years comparing the two and the number that Ozzie Newsome had even early in his career is staggering. Face it folks, Andrew Berry has destroyed this team in just a few short years.
Yet he's still employed! Go figure!
@@frankseprino8610 Berry can thank Clown Haslam for still employing him. Stooge owners tend to surround themselves with other stooges.
Who gives a shit anymore. Seriously. Sell the team and relocate
Why don't you relocate?
Yet ANOTHER year of multiple, musical, bad QB's! How can ANYONE defend this front office and coach?
I don't have any confidence in the Browns drafting a QB. It would be a wasted pick I'm afraid. Get Patrick Mahomes, he needs a new challenge.
What makes you think Mahomes would do well here especially if they don't bring Kelce with him? I would rather they bring Reid here to coach. I love his acting in the commercials. He is very funny, almost as good as Baker Mayfield.
Do you think the Browns should draft a QB with their 1st round pick?
No thank you, too much else needed before they make the move for a franchise QB in the draft. They have a high first round pick, don't waste it on the QBs who might be available at their pick. They are too chancy this year. Best player available no matter the position.
No. The reason is simple: there is no quarterback prospect (to date) talented enough to be picked that high. It would be an extreme reach based on who's currently available. The best course of action is to choose the best player available regardless of position.
Kurtis Rourke
We should NOT draft a QB BUT we HAVE to
Yes. You dont have a choice. You have no future at the position, a bridge buys you nothing. If the team is mediocre next year they're all fired, so tell me why they should trade down for more picks or take any other position? They were a playoff team last year with average qb play. Punting the position only delays the inevitable, and do we expect them to be in this position next year? again if they are...they're all fired anyways. Also they dont really have time for projects or mid round development. KS has shown no ability to develop any qbs. His success has mostly come off Browns having weak schedules after a down year and they play teams with trash qbs.
Because of JAMEIS
NOOOOOO!!!! They will fkitup again. Weeden, Quinn, Manziel, Baker, etc..........draft down.....
Ah...another Mayfield hater I see! He's having a career year in TB and has passed for nearly 4,300 yards with one game to go. He's 10X better than any QB on our roster.