I'm a corrosion engineering major. One thing you missed is the fact that cat urine contains a TON of chloride ions which are pretty rough on 99% of metals.
That's an interesting field dude! Lets say, hypotetically, that the guns were hidden under cat litter on purpose. Is there any compound that could be applied to those guns to make cat piss actually a protecting barrier? Kind of like using the chemicals on excrement and piss like a catalyst. Sorry if i'm not making any sense, i love chemistry but it alwaya struggled with the subject.
I had a summer job as a porter once, and had to dispose of a garbage bag of litter a weird cat lady put out. It was leaky and the litter was ancient, the stuff dripping out of it was the color of old motor oil and so noxious my eyes were tearing up. (as I dry heaved while trying to get it into the collection bin without getting any on me) I feel deeply sorry for whoever had to dig those guns out...
"I need to delicately active the cylinder release" Cut to a clip smashing it with a hammer and punch. Love these videos! I'm intimately familiar with the 92 so it's fascinating to watch you work on it and learn more about materials science and firearm restoration.
@@SpecialEDy That poor crane and cylinder for getting hit with a punch and hammer, or for being buried in a mixture of cat shit and cat piss for years? I feel that was time to put that poor S&W's out of its' misery because it had suffered enough...
"The stench would upset NileRed himself" I've seen enough NileRed videos to know he'd react by saying "It's honestly not that bad..." while his cameraman is having a stroke.
2:18 - "The smell would upset NileRed himself." It couldn't have smelt _that_ bad, surely? That dude literally smelled the stinkiest compound known to man, and the stinkiest chemical mixture ever produced, and was like "It's not as bad as I would've expected."
hardly available and very expensive. Something that works similarly can be made from sodium EDTA and citric acid, @ElementalMaker has a great video on the topic
A first for me! I restore old rusty firearms for a seller and have seen some crazy stuff but NEVER cat shlt! Craziest one for me to come in was after being hidden in a pack of frozen beef liver found in grandpa’s old freezer! A pair of old Walther P38s. Same guy also brought in an old plastic milk crate full of P38s found in the barn. About half of them were restorable but only a small handful ended up with all matching numbers. We built quite a few combining the best parts.
@@MrAppalachia I do work for a guy that’s been doing it for a long time. He knows the son of the owner of Classic Firearms I believe. Or maybe it’s the formers owner.
I have a S&W 2206 that was in a storm sewer for about 10 years. It was packed with dirt, sand, and mud. I had to replace the blued rear sight and the nickel plated controls but it turned out great. Especially compared to your 38 revolver.
That just goes to show that guns are really well built, a little bit of honest work and even seemingly extremely corroded guns can be in firing condition again. Always puts a smile on my face
I'm a plumber by trade, I had a customer who kept a cat box in a extra shower stall she had. The call was shower dripping. When I pulled back the curtain the ammount of damage from the ammonia in the air was extreme to say the least. I began to take the handle off, first step in seeing what type of valve it was since all markings had disappeared. Well the first step should have been to give an estimate for a new shower valve, when I turned the handle to look at the set screw it blew off in my hand with the front of the valve attached to it. Luckily it was a shower stall and I just closed the curtain and shut off the water but man. Im surprised there's anything left of that pistol.
Holy shit dude, you blew my mind with that little trick for those stuck handle screws. I never thought about putting it in a vise with a bit and turning it with pressure that way, you are an absolute genius
Honestly, this sounds like a textbook case of hoarding, which is almost always linked to profound mental illness. I hope that they're able to get into a better situation and get the help they need.
@@chrisjb241 Not all European countries ban handgun ownership entirely. Italy allows a citizen to own up to three "common firearms" (which encompasses all handguns and any rifles or shotguns not considered to be hunting weapons). So if these were in Italy, mere possession of the guns wouldn't have been a crime. Though that requires the having a license and registering each gun with the police, which very likely wasn't done with these.
I use a Rotary Tumbler designed for cleaning brass cartridges to strip firearms. Warm Water, Dish Soap, and Acetic Acid or Citric Acid, same as with brass. You can use the Stainless Steel Pin media, is is softer than firearms steel, it doesnt damage brass and it wont damage firearm's steel. Franklin Arsenal Rotary Tumbler (the F.A.R.T.) is what I use. Toss the chemicals, SS pins, and firearm in, run for 3 hours, and you'll get a spotless, stripped, rust free firearm out.
Have you ever considered a manual impact driver? I ignored them for years and drilled out so many rusted and swollen recessed screws in car door hinges and small throttle linkages. Finally around to using one and now its in the top drawer of my toolbox before I escalate the level of violence on a stuck or stripped fastener.
@@arthurmoore9488 I got the Snap On one used on eBay. Tried a few ching chong ones and they don't hold up too well. The snap on one has a heavy spring and ridiculous mass behind it. I'm q mechanic who swears by using inexpensive tools whereas my coworkers all splurge at the Snap On truck. I do however in this case recommend one by them. That's where I get all of my snap on stuff
This video reminded me of the time that i had to help my mother (a real estate agent at the time) clean up evicted properties, one was an apartment in the worst part of town, the immediate danger was the rank stench of ammonia and yellow molded stains on the carpets...
There's an old expression: "Cat got your tongue?" - in this case it's "Cat got your pistols!" Both left me speechless! Amazing how destructive cat urine/excrement is.
So many of the "restoration" videos are faked with "corrosion" painted or sprayed on a perfectly functional firearm. It's good to see a true expert at work.
With the state of these guns probably not. Owner was probably a Hoarder which makes me wonder how many other hoarders have perfectly good guns just sitting under junk and trash
@@demonjmh you wouldn’t be surprised if you were able to visit some parts of the southern United States and Appalachian Trail from Georgia to Maine . Many of these places have hoarders who are buried in waste and have some hidden treasure in the form of firearms antiques and other valuable items that are buried under tonnes of rubbish and shit.
@@demonjmh I’m in the middle area of the Appalachian Trail. I’ve got some stuff from hoarders and rental lockers and some really cool rifles and pistols that are worth their weight in gold. God Bless rednecks !
Your French pronunciation is quite good. As a Canadian, this video hits close to home, as the devastation of salt rich solutions on exposed steel is visible every winter. Corrosion is the price we pay to prevent collisions.
As a matter of interest, why did you choose to speak French and not Italian ? By the way, your English is absolutely incredible, if I may say so.@@Backyard.Ballistics
Watching you work on the Beretta reminds me that I need to clean and oil my Beretta 1951. Hopefully you have the opportunity to fully restore these guns after the case is completed.
13:40 I found that laughter extremely relatable. I often find myself chuckling in disbelief when even the smallest things in a large problem don't work as expected.
i can smell this video...... i used to have an aunt who was a hoarder and hoarded cats as well so i know this smell VERY well. Good on ya for finishing the project
All you had to say was "Cats," "Rescue," and "Buried in cat excrement," and I knew it was in possession of a hoarder. Say no more. I've seen what hoarders can do first hand.
Apparently some people don’t care about the value and protection of some firearms and it’s a shame that good quality firearms like these are nearly ruined. I myself clean and oil my own property. I bought a Taurus PT99AF from a pawn shop a few years back. It had a nickel finish and was yellow in color and it needed a lot of work but with a good soaking and cleaning it is now one my best firearms. Yearly I go through my collection and clean and oil then store them in water tight cases.
My guess is that someone thought: "Where can I hide these guns that no-one would look?" and forgot the vital role that a ziploc bag plays in this scenario. I would probably have started by boiling the whole lot in bleach. Wouldn't have helped with the restoration, but they'd be sterile after!
Bleach and steel (even stainless) don't mix. You don't want to know what it looked like when my lab mates left a stainless spoon to marinate in 37% bleach for a few weeks...
You know this man means business when he skips the "I didn't ask" entirely and goes straight to the "it can't be tight if it's a liquid" torch for a stuck magazine.
The uncommon and often forgotten S&W model 65, which lived in the shadow of its more popular brother the model 66, and its mighty cousins of the model 686 series, found wallowing in feline fecal matter where it was abandoned long ago. Very sad.
Awesome video my friend that's still impressive that you were able to bring two of them back to fully functioning order I always enjoy your videos keep them up
Not sure that this is what *I* would call a "special treat". You're suffering for your art. But good on animal welfare for rescuing the cats, and good on you for rescuing the guns.
When the case is done and dusted will it eventually become public info? I'm not at all familiar with Italian laws. This video leaves me with more questions than answers and I really hope details will end up being made public to hopefully answer a few things.
Sounds to me like they found the weapons and prosecutors wanted to know if they were capable of being discharged, since the owner was probably not in posession of the necessary licenses. If that is the case, I feel bad for the owner, as mario would turn a rusted can of tuna from the 60s back into shooting condition;)
@@peteraugust5295 yeah that's my assumption as well. And you're right, that man can work magic. I'm just curious about some of the minor details. Did they belong to a mafioso who retired and became a crazy cat lady? Or maybe it was just some crazy cat Lady who was holding onto the guns for a mafioso friend? My imagination is running wild lol
this was just a minor case, and was the result of mental illness and not criminal intent as far as I know. Legal consequences in these cases are very mild
I would like to say that the videos you make are very well done. Camera work and the narration as you progress are excellent. Also, your vocabulary is above and beyond what I hear from most people these days. Your skill as a gunsmith is very impressive.
6:48 Usually acids also produce hydrogen gas that can get into the material. Sandblasting is probably the only inert method useful to derust something like that.
Citric acid is fairly mild , the rust removal effect is probably mostly because it is a tridentate ligand and thus likes to pull metal ions into solution and make complexes with them.
I live in Texas and my step father served in the marine corps. If he were alive and saw the condition of these firearms he’d certainly have a stroke. I’m glad I was raised to take very good care of my firearms.
It is great to hear mention galvanic corrosion, SCC and hydrogen embrittlement. There are some others on TH-cam that are completely ignorant of that and what they do is downright dangerous
That is an amazing deep blue on the ammo 3:18, at any point in history did anyone expose metals to urine in order to produce colourful substances? I wouldn't be surprised if that's how a substance or process was accidentally discovered.
unfortunately for a dye or pigment to be useful most of the times it has to be insoluble in water, and copper salts are usually soluble. Actually if I remember right the blue color is caused by the bonds between copper ions and water molecules. Pure anhydrous copper sulfate is white. Upon exposure to moisture in the air it gets hydrated taking the typical blue color.
Since I work in the field of ammunition disposal I wonder what you do with ammunition that is unusable. How do you destroy this ammunition? We collect it, throw it into a large metal bin (~400kg) and light it on fire with coal. It takes about two days to finish and it sounds like a big popcorn machine.
I know you wont see this but the way you restore the firearms on your channel have stared use it you have save a lot of historic firearms I own from scrap I just want to say thanks
Ciao, Carlo. Excellent video. I sincerely hope those serial numbers don't throw any distubing results. Loved many of the one-liners you pulled on this one. Sad to see the Bernardelli in such a state but two out of three is no mean feat. Truly amazed at how corroded some of the aluminum areas were. I knew of a local case where an ex-con wrapped a big iron in a used baby diaper and into the trash bin it went. He'd used it for a couple of robberies but got ID'ed. Police came to his house and found it anyway. Hilarious and disgusting, Cheers.
Your sense of humor adds to what would otherwise be very dry, yet interesting, content. I am curious as to why the operability of the guns is useful information for judicial matters but assume it particularly relates to Italian gun laws.
What's the difference between your rust bluing and the cold bluing solutions that are commercially available? Just curious. I have no experience with these things. Sorry if you've explained this in other videos
After months of not touching my Beretta I decided to take it out of my gun safe tonight and rack the slide, check the magazine, and just marvel at its beauty. It’s a 2016 model 92FS. And then just minutes later here I am randomly finding your video of you bringing one back to life. They’re great guns, I have a video of mine on my channel along with 2 other Beretta models. They’re great guns. I enjoyed your video.
I think the spring provided with 30 luger 98s was indeed lighter, but spring stiffness is only one part of the equation, the other is the mass ratio between bullet and recoiling mass, and nothing was done to keep it in the optimal range when using the lighter 30 luger bullet.
It is so impressive/ somewhat scary that you (or whoever) actually fired these after all the damage they had. It shows the resilience of these tools (weapons). And the fact that it takes someone of your talent to even get them to a “functional” status makes me feel safer. Because the likelihood of the common person doing this much work to try and get these working is just not going to happen except for maybe in the most extreme of situations.
So sad that those guns are in such a bad state of condition. I have a mint Bernardelli. That along with the Beretta are exceptional guns. The S&W is very good too, but the other two are just pure Italian quality. I really enjoy your restore videos.
I understand you may be under contract not to disclose certain information due to active investigation but what is the role of attempting to bring the firearms back to functional? I am not italian and assume it may have to due with being in possession of unregistered operational firearms.
It is here in Denmark. If a specialist can get it to work after putting in a weeks work, then it's off to the slammer for two years, unless you are only Danish on paper.
@@erik_dk842 could you elaborate a bit on what kind of work is acceptable / how much of the original gun is left after the specialist finishes the job?
@@erik_dk842 Are you making that up or is that actually the requirement? I am a mechanic and in a week of work I could probably build an MG42 from most mechanics scrap pile...
I don't think adding parts made from scratch is beyond them. Knife collectors got fined for owning "one hand openable knives", designed and marketed as two-hand, because the police expect witness could open it with one hand in two out of three attempts, after intensive practice. A near 50 year old father went straight to jail for possession of a jammed up auto pistol which his son had shown to a classmate. The guy had a rapsheet with the latest entry over 20 years old. When the police raid a ghetto apartment and find a gun, it either belongs to noone, or the jail time is served in parallel with their other convictions, so 2+1+3 years prison sentence is served in 3 years minus time already spent before conviction.
I saw your thumbnail and at first thought it was one of those fake channels! Then I saw it was you! That gun is MESSY. I used to work in disaster restoration and I can smell and feel the cat pee soaked ammo boxes now.
I always wondering why you never use a corrosion inhibitor in etching solutions, like citric acid solution ? It is so easy and cheap, for example add 5% of gelatin can reduce "eating" of metal by about 80%, and methenamine (urotropin) works even better. It is always a good thing to save original metal as much as possible, so, why you do not use that method?
thanks for suggesting. Usually weak acids like citric and oxalic have a negligible effect on base metal, but I'll look into inhibitors. Would you suggest using urotropin in combination with weak acids?
@@Backyard.Ballistics In my opinion, urotropin is best inhibitor, because it is easy to make water solution out of it, is quite cheap, and it is one of most effective corrosion inhibitor - it takes only 7g of urotropin per one liter of acidic derusting solution, and in that concentration it breaks/slow down corrosion with 97% efficiency - even if you use 10% hydrochloric acid as deruster. I checked mine data about gelatin - 10g per one liter, stops corrosion by 93,9%.
Very much enjoying your channel. I just discovered it within the last few days. I seem to remember there was a 9x21 cartridge developed awhile back. Allegedly it was to get around the Italian ban on civilian ownership 9x19. Have you seen any in your line of work?
As I was watching him scrape that cat-poop-corrosion off the side of the Bernadelli with a screwdriver I was praying/pleading "FFS please don't slip and stab yourself with that shitty screwdriver..." 😳💩😖💩😫💩🤢💩🤮
I discovered EDTA for rust control and using just enough citric acid to balance PH seems to work pretty well. Several youtube videos on this concoction as well, could save you the trouble of damaging sensitive parts, at least due to over exposure of avid, in the future.
Hello! I can Not find a Video about the Italian gun laws. Can you Help me with my question: Are you allowed to buy magazines in Italy without permission or do you need one?
Well, two out of three was a pretty excellent result in this case! What an amazing and diligent recovery. I think most people wouldn't have even tried. You could have written a thesis on this.
I'm a corrosion engineering major. One thing you missed is the fact that cat urine contains a TON of chloride ions which are pretty rough on 99% of metals.
🙀🧐. Interesting..
That’s an extremely interesting field of study! Thank you for sharing!
Cat piss expert
*Ferb I know what we're gonna do today!*
That's an interesting field dude! Lets say, hypotetically, that the guns were hidden under cat litter on purpose. Is there any compound that could be applied to those guns to make cat piss actually a protecting barrier? Kind of like using the chemicals on excrement and piss like a catalyst. Sorry if i'm not making any sense, i love chemistry but it alwaya struggled with the subject.
"I have stopped trying to find logic in people's actions" that's a great statement 😄
LOL. Also actually quite sage advice in life haha
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Its normal to me...
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I see a logic. The criminal was trying to hide guns in the LAST place anybody would look.
I had a summer job as a porter once, and had to dispose of a garbage bag of litter a weird cat lady put out. It was leaky and the litter was ancient, the stuff dripping out of it was the color of old motor oil and so noxious my eyes were tearing up. (as I dry heaved while trying to get it into the collection bin without getting any on me) I feel deeply sorry for whoever had to dig those guns out...
Sounds like ammonia and Uriea fun stuff when in high concentration
I appreciate your concern 🤣
@Christian Terrill weight lifters use ammonia smelling salts to get an adrenaline rush before a heavy lift
Yeah the stuff people feed cats is honestly shit
keep on keeping on
"I need to delicately active the cylinder release" Cut to a clip smashing it with a hammer and punch. Love these videos! I'm intimately familiar with the 92 so it's fascinating to watch you work on it and learn more about materials science and firearm restoration.
I pissed myself at the whacking it got too 🤣🤣🤣
I was emotional when I saw the hammering on the cylinder. That poor crane and yoke...
@@SpecialEDy That poor crane and cylinder for getting hit with a punch and hammer, or for being buried in a mixture of cat shit and cat piss for years?
I feel that was time to put that poor S&W's out of its' misery because it had suffered enough...
"I stopped trying to find logic behind people's actions" And that, right there, is the key to inner peace.
It’s not only the lack of care, but the severity IDGAF that truly unlocks inner zen.
One of best life advice:)
But is not a constructive attitude. Understanding other people is important.
@@Willy_Tepes all you have convinced me is that people are confusing and attempting to understand them is futile. So just be normal man?
@@Willy_Tepes trying to find logic behind people's actions is not constructive? but yet it is "important". what? are you smoking?
"The stench would upset NileRed himself" I've seen enough NileRed videos to know he'd react by saying "It's honestly not that bad..." while his cameraman is having a stroke.
This is the most underrated comment on my whole channel.
2:18 - "The smell would upset NileRed himself."
It couldn't have smelt _that_ bad, surely? That dude literally smelled the stinkiest compound known to man, and the stinkiest chemical mixture ever produced, and was like "It's not as bad as I would've expected."
hardly available and very expensive. Something that works similarly can be made from sodium EDTA and citric acid, @ElementalMaker has a great video on the topic
A first for me! I restore old rusty firearms for a seller and have seen some crazy stuff but NEVER cat shlt! Craziest one for me to come in was after being hidden in a pack of frozen beef liver found in grandpa’s old freezer! A pair of old Walther P38s. Same guy also brought in an old plastic milk crate full of P38s found in the barn. About half of them were restorable but only a small handful ended up with all matching numbers. We built quite a few combining the best parts.
Wow, grandpa had quite a stash
How do you source firearms like that, I would love to get into the hobby of restoration
@@MrAppalachia I do work for a guy that’s been doing it for a long time. He knows the son of the owner of Classic Firearms I believe. Or maybe it’s the formers owner.
I have a S&W 2206 that was in a storm sewer for about 10 years. It was packed with dirt, sand, and mud. I had to replace the blued rear sight and the nickel plated controls but it turned out great. Especially compared to your 38 revolver.
That just goes to show that guns are really well built, a little bit of honest work and even seemingly extremely corroded guns can be in firing condition again. Always puts a smile on my face
I'm a plumber by trade, I had a customer who kept a cat box in a extra shower stall she had. The call was shower dripping. When I pulled back the curtain the ammount of damage from the ammonia in the air was extreme to say the least. I began to take the handle off, first step in seeing what type of valve it was since all markings had disappeared. Well the first step should have been to give an estimate for a new shower valve, when I turned the handle to look at the set screw it blew off in my hand with the front of the valve attached to it. Luckily it was a shower stall and I just closed the curtain and shut off the water but man. Im surprised there's anything left of that pistol.
Dude I've been looking for a 30 Luger 98 barrel here in the US for YEARS and this dude has one buried under cat sh*t!
To be fair, he does live in Italy.
Maybe piles of cat scat are just more common there.
I love how you give detailed explanations of the mechanisms, corrosion and history of the guns. It's not just eye candy, it's also pretty educational
Holy shit dude, you blew my mind with that little trick for those stuck handle screws. I never thought about putting it in a vise with a bit and turning it with pressure that way, you are an absolute genius
Honestly, this sounds like a textbook case of hoarding, which is almost always linked to profound mental illness. I hope that they're able to get into a better situation and get the help they need.
Well they had 2 guns that could be put into use.... probably git a few years in prison. Guns are very illegal in Europe, even non-working guns
@@chrisjb241 Not all European countries ban handgun ownership entirely. Italy allows a citizen to own up to three "common firearms" (which encompasses all handguns and any rifles or shotguns not considered to be hunting weapons). So if these were in Italy, mere possession of the guns wouldn't have been a crime. Though that requires the having a license and registering each gun with the police, which very likely wasn't done with these.
@@chrisjb241 Not really, in Finland you just have to go through a ton of paperwork and police bureaucracy to own a handgun.
this video was absolutely nuts. ive never seen anything this bad. it's absurd and unlike anything else on your channel. thanks for uploading!
nor have I!
Unexpected NileRed mention at 2:18 haha
12:38 “I need to delicately activate the cylinder release mechanism”
*proceeds to bash it maliciously with hammer*
"First of all, I need to delicately activate the cylinder release mechanism."
*BANG*BANG*BANG*BANG*BANG
lol
I use a Rotary Tumbler designed for cleaning brass cartridges to strip firearms. Warm Water, Dish Soap, and Acetic Acid or Citric Acid, same as with brass. You can use the Stainless Steel Pin media, is is softer than firearms steel, it doesnt damage brass and it wont damage firearm's steel.
Franklin Arsenal Rotary Tumbler (the F.A.R.T.) is what I use. Toss the chemicals, SS pins, and firearm in, run for 3 hours, and you'll get a spotless, stripped, rust free firearm out.
Have you ever considered a manual impact driver? I ignored them for years and drilled out so many rusted and swollen recessed screws in car door hinges and small throttle linkages. Finally around to using one and now its in the top drawer of my toolbox before I escalate the level of violence on a stuck or stripped fastener.
I've been debating myself. If it's that big of a game changer I should just do it and get one.
@@arthurmoore9488 I got the Snap On one used on eBay. Tried a few ching chong ones and they don't hold up too well. The snap on one has a heavy spring and ridiculous mass behind it. I'm q mechanic who swears by using inexpensive tools whereas my coworkers all splurge at the Snap On truck. I do however in this case recommend one by them. That's where I get all of my snap on stuff
This video reminded me of the time that i had to help my mother (a real estate agent at the time) clean up evicted properties, one was an apartment in the worst part of town, the immediate danger was the rank stench of ammonia and yellow molded stains on the carpets...
Amazing video, thanks. You must have the record for the most horribly corroded firearms. Love the humor you worked into the dialog!
"I needed to delicately activate the cylinder release"
- Dumbledore said calmly.
Thank you for restoring these items, it is a peace of mind knowing these guns are kept in better condition than what they were
You can sleep easy 🙄
If I've said it once, I've said it a million times,... "I don't really know where rust ends and poo begins!!!" Classic!
There's an old expression: "Cat got your tongue?" - in this case it's "Cat got your pistols!" Both left me speechless! Amazing how destructive cat urine/excrement is.
So many of the "restoration" videos are faked with "corrosion" painted or sprayed on a perfectly functional firearm. It's good to see a true expert at work.
Well, in a sense, these were "sprayed" as well. Just not with paint. And not by a human 🤣
Nice rescuing work ! Hope the cats too are at very good care.
With the state of these guns probably not. Owner was probably a Hoarder which makes me wonder how many other hoarders have perfectly good guns just sitting under junk and trash
@@demonjmh you wouldn’t be surprised if you were able to visit some parts of the southern United States and Appalachian Trail from Georgia to Maine . Many of these places have hoarders who are buried in waste and have some hidden treasure in the form of firearms antiques and other valuable items that are buried under tonnes of rubbish and shit.
@@Irish381 I'm from the Midwest Chicago Detroit surrounding areas
@@demonjmh I’m in the middle area of the Appalachian Trail. I’ve got some stuff from hoarders and rental lockers and some really cool rifles and pistols that are worth their weight in gold. God Bless rednecks !
As far as I know the cats have been relocated and are doing fine 😉
Excellent work as always. You’ve made restorations a work of art. Outstanding
4:24 “I don’t know where rust ends and poop begins to be honest” I have a suggestion. Yes
The most fragrant video so far.
Your French pronunciation is quite good. As a Canadian, this video hits close to home, as the devastation of salt rich solutions on exposed steel is visible every winter. Corrosion is the price we pay to prevent collisions.
Merci Beaucoup!
As a matter of interest, why did you choose to speak French and not Italian ? By the way, your English is absolutely incredible, if I may say so.@@Backyard.Ballistics
Watching you work on the Beretta reminds me that I need to clean and oil my Beretta 1951. Hopefully you have the opportunity to fully restore these guns after the case is completed.
Using the vice to apply force to the flat bit is genius ! Thank you sir
13:40 I found that laughter extremely relatable. I often find myself chuckling in disbelief when even the smallest things in a large problem don't work as expected.
i can smell this video...... i used to have an aunt who was a hoarder and hoarded cats as well so i know this smell VERY well. Good on ya for finishing the project
this guy feel like more of a chemist than a gunsmith tbh
These firearms look like the starter weapons of a rougelike videogame.
"I don't really know where rust ends and poo begins to be honest." Not something I thought I'd hear today 😂
All you had to say was "Cats," "Rescue," and "Buried in cat excrement," and I knew it was in possession of a hoarder. Say no more. I've seen what hoarders can do first hand.
Apparently some people don’t care about the value and protection of some firearms and it’s a shame that good quality firearms like these are nearly ruined. I myself clean and oil my own property. I bought a Taurus PT99AF from a pawn shop a few years back. It had a nickel finish and was yellow in color and it needed a lot of work but with a good soaking and cleaning it is now one my best firearms. Yearly I go through my collection and clean and oil then store them in water tight cases.
Amazing video as always. Thanks for taking the time to film it.
7:19 Would like to see what Evapo-rust would do to such a piece, as it should convert the rust and reach the crevices.
My guess is that someone thought: "Where can I hide these guns that no-one would look?" and forgot the vital role that a ziploc bag plays in this scenario.
I would probably have started by boiling the whole lot in bleach. Wouldn't have helped with the restoration, but they'd be sterile after!
Hahahahahaha!!!
Bleach and steel (even stainless) don't mix. You don't want to know what it looked like when my lab mates left a stainless spoon to marinate in 37% bleach for a few weeks...
@@nerd1000ify Moar chlorides🤪
You know this man means business when he skips the "I didn't ask" entirely and goes straight to the "it can't be tight if it's a liquid" torch for a stuck magazine.
The uncommon and often forgotten S&W model 65, which lived in the shadow of its more popular brother the model 66, and its mighty cousins of the model 686 series, found wallowing in feline fecal matter where it was abandoned long ago. Very sad.
I had a chance to get a 3” 65, but instead traded for an unfired Ruger 1V Liberty in 7 mag.
Awesome video my friend that's still impressive that you were able to bring two of them back to fully functioning order I always enjoy your videos keep them up
Not sure that this is what *I* would call a "special treat". You're suffering for your art. But good on animal welfare for rescuing the cats, and good on you for rescuing the guns.
When the case is done and dusted will it eventually become public info? I'm not at all familiar with Italian laws. This video leaves me with more questions than answers and I really hope details will end up being made public to hopefully answer a few things.
Sounds to me like they found the weapons and prosecutors wanted to know if they were capable of being discharged, since the owner was probably not in posession of the necessary licenses.
If that is the case, I feel bad for the owner, as mario would turn a rusted can of tuna from the 60s back into shooting condition;)
@@peteraugust5295 yeah that's my assumption as well. And you're right, that man can work magic. I'm just curious about some of the minor details. Did they belong to a mafioso who retired and became a crazy cat lady? Or maybe it was just some crazy cat Lady who was holding onto the guns for a mafioso friend? My imagination is running wild lol
Just commenting in case someone updates us on this down the road
this was just a minor case, and was the result of mental illness and not criminal intent as far as I know. Legal consequences in these cases are very mild
@@Backyard.Ballistics thanks for the details!
I would like to say that the videos you make are very well done. Camera work and the narration as you progress are excellent. Also, your vocabulary is above and beyond what I hear from most people these days. Your skill as a gunsmith is very impressive.
6:48 Usually acids also produce hydrogen gas that can get into the material. Sandblasting is probably the only inert method useful to derust something like that.
Citric acid is fairly mild , the rust removal effect is probably mostly because it is a tridentate ligand and thus likes to pull metal ions into solution and make complexes with them.
I live in Texas and my step father served in the marine corps. If he were alive and saw the condition of these firearms he’d certainly have a stroke. I’m glad I was raised to take very good care of my firearms.
I can only imagine how bad that litter tray of delights must have smelled! Nice work getting 2 of the 3 functioning again :)
Litter house you mean.
@@JD-tl7ld we call them litter trays here in the UK 👍🏼 but same thing I’m sure.
OH BOY. Another Backyard Ballistics video. Happy day.
Much awaited, much appreciated excellent insights as always from you.
It is great to hear mention galvanic corrosion, SCC and hydrogen embrittlement. There are some others on TH-cam that are completely ignorant of that and what they do is downright dangerous
love all your videos anyways, but this one was special for me as i collect beretta 92's. thanks for always putting so much information in your vids!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That is an amazing deep blue on the ammo 3:18, at any point in history did anyone expose metals to urine in order to produce colourful substances?
I wouldn't be surprised if that's how a substance or process was accidentally discovered.
unfortunately for a dye or pigment to be useful most of the times it has to be insoluble in water, and copper salts are usually soluble. Actually if I remember right the blue color is caused by the bonds between copper ions and water molecules. Pure anhydrous copper sulfate is white. Upon exposure to moisture in the air it gets hydrated taking the typical blue color.
Since I work in the field of ammunition disposal I wonder what you do with ammunition that is unusable. How do you destroy this ammunition?
We collect it, throw it into a large metal bin (~400kg) and light it on fire with coal. It takes about two days to finish and it sounds like a big popcorn machine.
Thanks!
The "canon au pipi de chat" caught me off guard haha
I know you wont see this but the way you restore the firearms on your channel have stared use it you have save a lot of historic firearms I own from scrap I just want to say thanks
What makes your hands shake so much? I'm asking this because it happens to me too. Is this some condition that you have had diagnosed?
Ciao, Carlo.
Excellent video.
I sincerely hope those serial numbers don't throw any distubing results. Loved many of the one-liners you pulled on this one. Sad to see the Bernardelli in such a state but two out of three is no mean feat. Truly amazed at how corroded some of the aluminum areas were. I knew of a local case where an ex-con wrapped a big iron in a used baby diaper and into the trash bin it went. He'd used it for a couple of robberies but got ID'ed. Police came to his house and found it anyway. Hilarious and disgusting,
Cheers.
Your sense of humor adds to what would otherwise be very dry, yet interesting, content.
I am curious as to why the operability of the guns is useful information for judicial matters but assume it particularly relates to Italian gun laws.
Illegal possession is a very serious crime here, but it do not apply to permanently inoperable weapons.
What's the difference between your rust bluing and the cold bluing solutions that are commercially available? Just curious. I have no experience with these things. Sorry if you've explained this in other videos
Awesome I've been waiting for another video you do incredible work!
Hey, another great video! All the best from the UK
All the best to you! 😉
that beretta 83 fell over like it just took the most massive and satisfying shit in history
The science stuff at the start with the bullets was pretty cool and insightful! ty
After months of not touching my Beretta I decided to take it out of my gun safe tonight and rack the slide, check the magazine, and just marvel at its beauty. It’s a 2016 model 92FS. And then just minutes later here I am randomly finding your video of you bringing one back to life. They’re great guns, I have a video of mine on my channel along with 2 other Beretta models. They’re great guns. I enjoyed your video.
Welp, now I want a Beretta 98. I'm curious if a lighter action spring would allow for better reliability, or a stronger load.
I think the spring provided with 30 luger 98s was indeed lighter, but spring stiffness is only one part of the equation, the other is the mass ratio between bullet and recoiling mass, and nothing was done to keep it in the optimal range when using the lighter 30 luger bullet.
@@Backyard.Ballistics Interesting. Maybe doing some lightening cuts on the slide would work.
It is so impressive/ somewhat scary that you (or whoever) actually fired these after all the damage they had. It shows the resilience of these tools (weapons).
And the fact that it takes someone of your talent to even get them to a “functional” status makes me feel safer.
Because the likelihood of the common person doing this much work to try and get these working is just not going to happen except for maybe in the most extreme of situations.
i really loved the vice technic , deffintily i will use it!
thanks for the great job!
2:18 EPIC! A shout-out to Nile Red is always proper form!
I'm curious why you use citric acid or hot water to loosen and remove rust instead of vinegar or electrolysis?
Bellissimo Backyard Ballistics, superb like allways !!!! GRANDE SALUTTI !!!
The best firearm restoration channel on YT! Have you ever tried Evaporust or MC21?
So sad that those guns are in such a bad state of condition. I have a mint Bernardelli. That along with the Beretta are exceptional guns. The S&W is very good too, but the other two are just pure Italian quality. I really enjoy your restore videos.
I understand you may be under contract not to disclose certain information due to active investigation but what is the role of attempting to bring the firearms back to functional? I am not italian and assume it may have to due with being in possession of unregistered operational firearms.
It is here in Denmark. If a specialist can get it to work after putting in a weeks work, then it's off to the slammer for two years, unless you are only Danish on paper.
@@erik_dk842 could you elaborate a bit on what kind of work is acceptable / how much of the original gun is left after the specialist finishes the job?
@@erik_dk842 Are you making that up or is that actually the requirement? I am a mechanic and in a week of work I could probably build an MG42 from most mechanics scrap pile...
Here in Italy a firearm that is permanently not in fonctioning order is, legally, not a weapon.
I don't think adding parts made from scratch is beyond them. Knife collectors got fined for owning "one hand openable knives", designed and marketed as two-hand, because the police expect witness could open it with one hand in two out of three attempts, after intensive practice.
A near 50 year old father went straight to jail for possession of a jammed up auto pistol which his son had shown to a classmate. The guy had a rapsheet with the latest entry over 20 years old.
When the police raid a ghetto apartment and find a gun, it either belongs to noone, or the jail time is served in parallel with their other convictions, so 2+1+3 years prison sentence is served in 3 years minus time already spent before conviction.
You are an absolute wizard, man. I thought those guns were done for
I love how this project was: derust, beat with a hammer, derust, beat with a hammer, repeat
Hi backyard, could you make a video about things to look up after in a used gun before buying it?
I saw your thumbnail and at first thought it was one of those fake channels! Then I saw it was you! That gun is MESSY. I used to work in disaster restoration and I can smell and feel the cat pee soaked ammo boxes now.
Question, why aren’t you using solutions like Evaporust for easy rust removal?
Watch his other videos !
Why do you not use penetrants to remove stuck screws? Just asking.
I always wondering why you never use a corrosion inhibitor in etching solutions, like citric acid solution ? It is so easy and cheap, for example add 5% of gelatin can reduce "eating" of metal by about 80%, and methenamine (urotropin) works even better. It is always a good thing to save original metal as much as possible, so, why you do not use that method?
thanks for suggesting. Usually weak acids like citric and oxalic have a negligible effect on base metal, but I'll look into inhibitors. Would you suggest using urotropin in combination with weak acids?
@@Backyard.Ballistics In my opinion, urotropin is best inhibitor, because it is easy to make water solution out of it, is quite cheap, and it is one of most effective corrosion inhibitor - it takes only 7g of urotropin per one liter of acidic derusting solution, and in that concentration it breaks/slow down corrosion with 97% efficiency - even if you use 10% hydrochloric acid as deruster.
I checked mine data about gelatin - 10g per one liter, stops corrosion by 93,9%.
Excellent episode. Science and entertainment, what more could one want?
was the work you did in this video part of an investigation to implicate someone in arms possession? what you said here at 17:10 seems to imply that.
Very much enjoying your channel. I just discovered it within the last few days. I seem to remember there was a 9x21 cartridge developed awhile back. Allegedly it was to get around the Italian ban on civilian ownership 9x19. Have you seen any in your line of work?
How many pairs of gloves did you go through for this project??!
As I was watching him scrape that cat-poop-corrosion off the side of the Bernadelli with a screwdriver I was praying/pleading "FFS please don't slip and stab yourself with that shitty screwdriver..." 😳💩😖💩😫💩🤢💩🤮
I discovered EDTA for rust control and using just enough citric acid to balance PH seems to work pretty well. Several youtube videos on this concoction as well, could save you the trouble of damaging sensitive parts, at least due to over exposure of avid, in the future.
Why do you have to blur the serial number on the Smith and Wesson revolver Backyard Ballistic ?
Because, even if the detention of an unregistered firearm is a minor offense in italy, those were still evidencies in a criminal case.
@@neutronalchemist3241 thanks for answering, really appreciate it^^!
Always great stuff.. most impressive.. it has been a while since content... more please.. thank you for all you do
Yup... 👆THIS👆
Hello!
I can Not find a Video about the Italian gun laws.
Can you Help me with my question:
Are you allowed to buy magazines in Italy without permission or do you need one?
Where do you find/buy all these old firearms?
Do you have product called Evaporust in Italy? , I use it all the time on machining tools, it works great.
Definitely enjoy your videos for all the informative things you show in them, can't wait for any new videos from you dawg
That smith and Wesson revolver was made right down the street from me in America haha interesting videos sir, have a nice day
Well, two out of three was a pretty excellent result in this case! What an amazing and diligent recovery. I think most people wouldn't have even tried. You could have written a thesis on this.