MOOOC T1 Lesson 8: String Quartet
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Your mixed metaphors are so delightful.
"I see the second violin as a rock. Upon which the first violin can soar to greater heights."
Take that, birds. Wings are for wusses. Real men use rocks instead.
You've heard it here first.
Why, thank you! It makes total sense if you've ever played in a quartet, logic be damned. ;-)
2:35 Even small bits in the video like that are priceless... what a list of composers!
Beautifully done; a brilliant, professional and thoroughly interesting lecture. I will definitely be using these tips and techniques in my future string quartet compositios.
i realize I'm kinda off topic but does anyone know a good place to stream new tv shows online?
@Cruz Marco flixportal xD
@Yehuda Brennan Thanks, signed up and it seems to work :) I appreciate it !!
@Cruz Marco glad I could help xD
Unbelievably fantastic video! Excellent clarity of presentation, great explanations, musical excerpts and highlighting!
What a masterpiece! Inspiring conclusion as well. Thank you for every single video in 2016!
Watching this whole series has made me realise how poorly written my previous string compositions are...
I have a lot of research and score reading to do before I embark upon writing my first string quartet.
Thank you Mr Goss for putting these online for free, you have already made me a better composer :-)
Shostakovich and Milhaud are my favourite string quartet composers :-)
Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Brahms, Max Reger and Franz Schmidt are mine.
@@Khayyam-vg9fw I feel like if you’re picking favorites you should probably trim the list a little
@@EthicalEthicsEnteringEthically I feel that you should probably do something that is often talked about but is almost certainly physically impossible.
This is one of my favourite videos. learning so much.
Thank you Thomas, your resources are always the best.
Just what I needed right now! Thank you Thomas and happy new year!
What a fantastic new year gift!
For someone whose dream is to compose for an ensemble, this is fantastic!
thanks for uploading this Course and have a happy new year
Hi Thomas one of the best lesson.Thank you
Thank you for your incredible videos - learning so much!
Thank you it will help me in my amateur orchestration
Hello, and thanks for these invaluable resources. I was wondering of you've done any analysis of string quartets with a double bass added. I'm a bass player myself, and have always been a little envious of the string quartet players with all the material out there. I don't want to play "Die Forelle" all the time. If I have to write original material, couldn't it be interesting to examine how the roles of the instruments change if it's a quintet instead?
I have a heave heart for players of great but underappreciated instruments such as yourself. I enjoy writing bass parts in my chamber music, and have two string sextets scored for 2 violins, viola, 2 cellos, and bass, as opposed to a second viola. There should be more bass chamber music and concertos!
I wouldnt say bass is underrated really. but yeah because back then composers didnt write a lot of stuff with bass (for that purpose say guitar too), and I think there's a lot of potential with them
this will take me some months xD SO much to learn.
Thank you!
So there are a few reasons why I have disappeared for a while. First off is that my facebook account got disabled for no reason. I sent an appeal to Facebook but they haven't reenabled my account. Second is that I have been busy with college lately. But I am on break now and am thinking of taking the next semester off. But there is yet another reason. I have been working recently on a piano sonata. But not just any old piano sonata. This one has a deadline. And it is really specific too, being 1/27/2019. You probably wouldn't think anything of it except a random date I chose as a deadline. However, I chose this date for a reason.
Mozart is the composer who gave me the inspiration to compose when I was in my teens. He still influences me a great deal, just a little less than Beethoven. Also he was born on January 27. So this sonata not only has a deadline, but the deadline is Mozart's birthday. So it makes sense that I am dedicating this sonata to Mozart. Thus I am doing it in the style of Mozart.
I was able to make a Mozartian spin off of the Ode to Joy theme, really easily actually. I slightly modified the right hand so it didn't have any of those non-diatonic notes(so I have Bb where in a literal transposition, there would be a B natural) and made the left hand almost exclusively 16th note alberti bass. I also transposed the whole theme to F major because it is the secondary theme of my sonata and since my sonata is in Bb, overall, F fits in way better than the original key of D. And I found that it is very easy for me to sing "Happy Birthday Mozart" to.
I got the entire exposition down, now to develop it. It is so hard to choose. I mean, I think the Ode to Joy theme would be better to develop because it has more measures than any other component of my exposition and that the part with the scales and half cadence would be the worst because with a scale, you can move it up or down x steps, change key, change note speed, but that's about it. Same for the cadence. But really, all I have down is a specific modulation sequence starting with D minor and than going through the majors from D major to F major for the dominant preparation. Nothing else.
I know Mozart is telling me in my head to just go with the flow like he did with his compositions but then I'm like "What flow? I see several brances of this river of composition right at the development section that go very far apart from each other and only come back during the recapitulation(which could mean a long journey)"
I was wondering if you Thomas Goss could help me here.
I am writing a Scherzo for a string quartet and there is one thing that I can't decide on. That is whether to keep the eighth notes detache or slur them in 2 note groups. Detache means detached, I know that. But aren't the articulations of eighth notes clear on string instruments regardless of whether or not they are detache, especially at fast tempos?
So then, if eighth note articulations are clear regardless and detache is generally used for clearer articulations, what are the advantages of detache over slurred notes at fast tempos, besides possibly making the leading into staccato slightly easier?
46:18 sounds a lot like Le Forid De I'hiver by Soon Hee Newbold
Or rather, the other way around. ;) She has great influences.
Hi, does the MOOOC T2 exist and how can I access it?
Hi, is there ever going to be more MOOOC content? Winds, brass etc.? I couldn't find any information on your website and the patreon project seems to have terminated. Thank you!
good
Fantastic video as usual but the thumbnail shows the piano quartet instead of a string quartet
Oops! Thanks for pointing that out! I will fix it today.
Fixed! Thanks again,
Thank You for the video! I have only one question when are you going to do rachmaninoff orchestration lesson?
Hi Carlos! Good question. It has been delayed because of the unexpected commitments and setbacks I had this year in planning the MOOOC. We will be back on track this year with orchestration lessons, but I can't say when I'll do specific lessons yet. Stand by for more info soon.
OrchestrationOnline Thank you!!!
I don't know anything, where shall I start, and r this lesson for beginner like me.
Chordo Phone Join are facebook group, online orchestration created by Thomas Goss
Start with Lesson 1 :)
his videos are not for beginners in general, you study orchestration after you study harmony, counterpoint and basic composition.
Hi! Can you please tell me where can I find this video course that appears at 8:53. Thanks! :)
macProVideo dot com, search Orchestration 101: The String Section.
@@OrchestrationOnline Found it and will purchase it! Thank you for this great material! :)
In the minute 44:56 the viola has a low H but it is impossible for its register
Maybe it's a typo. Second has H# in the next bar.
+Darkserpentes Yes, you're right
Thank you for noticing it to me
It is a B# (or H# in German nomenclature). The engravers left it out.
Hello Thomas Goss is the MOOC for starters, i really want to learn
Can you please guide me.
Hi there! How much of a beginner are you?
i know chord functions, inversions, i can transcribe simple pop songs from the radio without my instrument(got some skills in relative pitch)..i know a little about musical form like sentence period, and thats it... don t know how to quantify my skill level..know
+OrchestrationOnline
really sorry for the delay Starting From Zero never tried orchestration.
I think you should watch MOOOC T1 Lesson One and see whether you think that's manageable. Remember, this is an open course, so anyone taking it can make from it what they can on their own. You don't need to support on Patreon or whatever. You can also see if a teacher in your area or online will adapt some of the curriculum to your level of training. If you simply have never tried orchestration yet, but you have some experience as a musician, then I think that Lesson One is a great place to start learning orchestration.
When is term 2 coming or if it already exists where can I find it?
Not yet, Algy. Possibly next year. Sorry for the wait. But instead, I'll be making audiovisual courses on the brass section.
Did term 2 ever come out?!
56:53 what's the difference
The martellato markings should have an extra bite to them, "hammering" with the bow.
@@OrchestrationOnline I can't listen to the difference 🤔