Cancelled - Disney World's Never Built Hotels

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  • @BrightSunFilms
    @BrightSunFilms  ปีที่แล้ว +152

    An anonymous viewer sent in a really interesting site plan for the eventually constructed, Boardwalk Hotel. Though, in this 1993 master plan, a curious dotted line depicts an intended monorail beam. It's something i've never seen before, and I posted it over on Twitter. Give me a follow while you're there to get updates on stuff like this! twitter.com/BrightSunFilms/status/1671234101217488896?s=20

    • @jakezoet-jd1wk
      @jakezoet-jd1wk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Huh, that’s interesting. Perhaps the monorail was likely going to go through the hotel or have a hotel station built there for a potential new line

    • @lemonrealsqueeze6826
      @lemonrealsqueeze6826 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakezoet-jd1wk probably was a monorail connected a station not inside the resort but behind that connected Disney Springs at the time and Yaht Club to Epcot.

    • @DavidVitrano
      @DavidVitrano ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope that this Reflections Resort can officially get back on building soon.
      But if it cannot be built here. They need to build it as part of a brand new Story Living Community near Yosemite National Park.
      Because that is one of the main Inspirations for the world of Bambi.

    • @DavidVitrano
      @DavidVitrano ปีที่แล้ว

      All of these lost hotels need to be built here, shown on this video.
      th-cam.com/video/OE42_V7RWbc/w-d-xo.html
      And they all can be connected with their own respective lands.
      Also, there needs to be a hotel theme to Mexico that can be based off the Mission Inn in Riverside California.
      th-cam.com/video/WVv9B9D1MOY/w-d-xo.html
      There also needs to be a Brazilian Style Hotel as well.

    • @bethamy1324
      @bethamy1324 ปีที่แล้ว

      P

  • @hopescope
    @hopescope ปีที่แล้ว +286

    That white Mediterranean resort was STUNNING and so ahead of it’s time! I’m so sad it doesn’t exist

    • @makaliabartodej2728
      @makaliabartodej2728 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      so cool to see you here, hope! 🤩

    • @carminecdinoproductions
      @carminecdinoproductions 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I want a Disney Mediterranean Resort hotel for the Walt Disney World Resort! I might want it to exist!

  • @MNGirl11119
    @MNGirl11119 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    I’m glad you pointed out the horrible trend of Disney’s hotel “updates” removing theming.

    • @billredding2000
      @billredding2000 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ...because Going Woke is way more important, so they can't have any distractions from pushing THAT agenda.
      -- BR

    • @ValdaFay
      @ValdaFay ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The Disney Dream is as dead as the American Dream

    • @bigbabado8296
      @bigbabado8296 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@billredding2000You'd think they'd use theming to push the "woke" agenda, but I guess I'd be wrong 🤷

    • @billredding2000
      @billredding2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bigbabado8296 ...maybe you're not wrong, maybe it's in the works right now!
      -- BR

    • @jspihlman
      @jspihlman ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yeah everything just seems to be becoming more lackluster in nature... boring solid colors, no patterns, no theming. It's just like how boring new fast food restaurants look. And they are trying to do the IP themed rooms, but they just look too kitschy and forced for my taste. Whereas the hotels had their own unique theming and touchings before.

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday ปีที่แล้ว +1210

    I hope to get to a point where I can throw out entire hotels like those socks I never liked 😂

    • @spiderfox1988
      @spiderfox1988 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Holy shit its really you!! I'm sure you get there one day man!

    • @thesaexplorer
      @thesaexplorer ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Tay Zonday ladies and gentlemen!

    • @meanderinoranges
      @meanderinoranges ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Wow, we've been touched by an angel!

    • @MommyMinty
      @MommyMinty ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He came back for us. The chocolate rain man.

    • @candidapm2474
      @candidapm2474 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Socks stained with chocolate rain

  • @JKSSubstandard
    @JKSSubstandard ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I actually work for the architecture firm that designed the Dolphin hotel. Its weird seeing how many other architects designs were left by the wayside while Michale Graves got his over the finish line.

    • @electricar9
      @electricar9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which architecture firm do you work at?

    • @rebeccageiger9110
      @rebeccageiger9110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea no offense to you or your employer but the others are way cooler. I never thought the dolphin looked interesting at all.

  • @chetb_4560
    @chetb_4560 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    Very interesting to see how many of the cancelled concepts such as the Mediterranean, Venice one, and Asian resort in comparison to today's more modern and bland hotels had a holistic theme to the whole building, and not just a regular design with some disney characters placed around as the theme. As said in the video, it just goes to show how before the 90's Disney had the architecture and experience in mind instead of Disney+ and other commercial expansions

    • @ElijahRock92
      @ElijahRock92 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I hate to be "that guy," but I think modern social media outrage has caused major companies to play it safe. You can't make major news and be the hot topic on podcasts with a bland hotel, whereas an Asian, Persian, of Venician might cause a vocal minority to go full send on social media. Don't forget, any land development will stir the environmental hornets nest.
      The only way Disney will take a risk like that again is if 1) the property division is split off from other parts of the company, and 2) a hostile takeover occurs putting the aforementioned division in the hands of risk-taking leaders. With how south things have been going at Disney, only time will tell.

    • @Craxin01
      @Craxin01 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@ElijahRock92 It's less social media and more capitalism. Putting massive amounts of money into a project without guaranteed income is a losing strategy. Playing it safe might be boring, but it's profitable.

    • @ElijahRock92
      @ElijahRock92 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Craxin01 Ehhhh... if you think it's "capitalism", I'm just gonna leave you to your own devices. ✌🏾

    • @danieladams4289
      @danieladams4289 ปีที่แล้ว

      P

    • @pcbassoon3892
      @pcbassoon3892 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@Craxin01 You think you could build an "Arabian Nights: Person themed" hotel without people losing their minds on social media?

  • @MasterOfNinjas16
    @MasterOfNinjas16 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    This may be an unpopular opinion, but the few places on Disney property that DON'T have IPs awkwardly shoved in, are the most magical. Iger NEEDS to go and they need someone in place who understands and respects the company history, legacy, and philosophies Walt and Roy had.

    • @motherurck7542
      @motherurck7542 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They also need someone who doesn't get the company involved in politics, cause it keeps on biting them in the ass.

    • @screechys
      @screechys ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Walt Disney was racist so i don’t think he should do that

    • @motherurck7542
      @motherurck7542 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mattimaginex1 He really wasn't. He was anti union and the commies attacked him for it and made up stories.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yes, when fans say they want more theming, they generally don't mean, "Slap a sticker of a popular movie on it." They mean the kind of design and level of detail that makes you believe you've left the everyday world behind and have been transported to some other place and/or time.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@motherurck7542 It was getting OUT of politics that got them in trouble with the fascists.

  • @REXXltm14
    @REXXltm14 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I think the star wars hotel is a great example of giving the fans something they want, then pricing them out of it. I loved the concept and wanted to go, but when i started planning a disney trip i found it was way too expensive. if you want to cater to a niche fan group you have to make it so they can participate, pricing it at the same level as the top tier resorts makes no sense, and people will just choose to go there instead

    • @vtmkb
      @vtmkb ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Honestly it wasn’t a Star Wars hotel. I think they failed in their marketing…I went and it was a immersive 2 day event. You could not just come and go like a normal hotel. There is a themed shuttle that took you to the park at a certain time. If you have the means to book before it’s gone I highly suggest you do. It was amazing. It’s far far more than just a themed hotel.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Im 💯 sure Star Wars Galaxy Edge hotel, concept will be studied in US business schools, hotel hospitality 🏨 courses. What NOT to do!

    • @louiearmstrong
      @louiearmstrong ปีที่แล้ว +21

      $1200 PER NIGHT PER GUEST FOR TWO NIGHTS. Damn that is expensive! Disney and elite ski resorts cater to a few billionaires, and suddenly start thinking $1000+ daily experiences are a solid business plan

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@vtmkb EXACTLY. Disney's failure was a failure to adequately publicize and market it for what it was. The fact that people are still out here calling it a "Star Wars hotel" proves that. Yes, the price was ridiculous if all you got was a hotel room - but that wasn't what it was. They should have been promoting the hell out of it.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @louiearmstrong correct. 💯 Jackson Hole Wy is a good example. They were a RV, camper 🏕 tourist spot for decades, then in the 1980s 1990s more rich year round 🏘 residents shifted in. Now 2023, it's 🍌. Prices are sky high. Hourly employees are "poor" but earn $20-35/hour. I worked at GTLC 🏞 security in 2020.

  • @pcruzinn
    @pcruzinn ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Disney has slowly lost its immense integration of theming over the years in various projects and it's really sad. I get it's a money problem, but just not as much magic going into projects as they used to.

    • @morganrussman
      @morganrussman ปีที่แล้ว +3

      While it is mainly because I went down with family, I've only really been down twice (well, down to Florida 3 times, the first being when I was a baby when some family events down in Florida happened, but, twice if you consider above 10 years old).

    • @AviationDirection
      @AviationDirection ปีที่แล้ว

      Go woke, go broke! Too bad!

    • @presmasterflash7555
      @presmasterflash7555 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Makes you wonder how much of the political climate over the years played a role in this.

    • @danielknepper6884
      @danielknepper6884 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody likes their woke crap

  • @SovietDictator
    @SovietDictator ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Modern Disney usually makes the mistake of thinking you should be there for their characters. Walt understood that you are the character. I hope they get better at channeling Walt in their future projects. The Star Wars one seems to have the earmarks of something they thought might do this but didn't do it effectively or at a price people could afford. Walt managed it by buil;ding a frontier town and a castle instead of making you stay in a windowless oddity.
    When I was a kid you got Swiss theming on the skyway entrance and a mountain with a brief glimpse of a yeti. That's because it was built to let you become part of it. Then you'd saunter over to Big Thunder where there weren't characters, there was you, a train, and a strange mining operation.
    Characters are fine, and I met a bunch of them, especially by the carousel. I pulled the sword from the stone and now decades later I still remember it. If not for pictures my parents took, I would not remember which characters I met but I did have a magical day because even then, I knew I experienced things, not just saw them. If riding a submarine isn't fun unless you see Nemo or Ariel, you're not taking advantage of the submarine itself.

  • @samspencer1906
    @samspencer1906 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I NEVER get bored of these amazing productions. We even have viewing parties here in the UK. Top notch content. Keep it up mate!

  • @brigittem2821
    @brigittem2821 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The Mediterranean Hotel was a beautiful design that would have given a lovely and eye catching scenery for Disney World.

  • @foabmoab
    @foabmoab ปีที่แล้ว +81

    With regards to Galactic Starcruiser, I'm amazed they haven't just designed and built a general hotel just with a Star Wars theme that wasn't ridiculously expensive. It doesn't have to have the big production value, but they could essentially blended the Venetian idea into a hotel styled after Naboo for example.

    • @gokaury
      @gokaury ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's been rumored that Disney is just going to tear it down. Disney isn't what it once was, ideological differences aside.

    • @louiearmstrong
      @louiearmstrong ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You could have made a $300 Embassy Suites Tatooine with their omelet breakfast and couch beds, and you would be sold out every night forever. Disney wanted 5 digit used car prices for the Star Wars hotel experience.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really don't think that would work in a regular hotel setting where people are constantly coming and going. The amount of the outside world that comes into a hotel would be breaking the illusion left, right, and center.

    • @foabmoab
      @foabmoab ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ttintagel Perhaps, but even in Galactic Starcruiser you have people in regular non-SW style clothes and Mickey Mouse hats and such during the events :)

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foabmoab I don't think having guests in 21st-century clothing on the Starcruiser can compare to what it would be like at a hotel.

  • @Ultimaton100
    @Ultimaton100 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Fun Fact: Cast members who operate the transport boats on Seven Seas Lagoon and Bay Lake to this day refer to the edge of shoreline where the Venetian and Mediterranean resorts would have sat as “Venetian Pointe” for navigation purposes.

  • @FelixHawthorne
    @FelixHawthorne ปีที่แล้ว +293

    As a Defunctland regular, it's weird to see Michael Eisner in the beginning and not immediately go "what shit did he do this time"

    • @JoaoPessoa86
      @JoaoPessoa86 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      the recuring villain, it all goes back to Eisner there

    • @sominboy2757
      @sominboy2757 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      EIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @EEvtg
      @EEvtg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Defunctland's just biased and only focuses on the negative.

    • @auburngeekgirl
      @auburngeekgirl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is a reoccurring theme when I watch these.

  • @phillipcosentino37
    @phillipcosentino37 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I still remember the original video of the abandoned hotels! Used to listen multiple times at my old job. Jake, the amount of times I bring up these hotels, people look at me like I have a second head, they're shocked and it's thanks to you I get to experience those reactions, keep it up mate!

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That’s so cool to hear! I hope I’ve done the topic justice the second time around!

    • @phillipcosentino37
      @phillipcosentino37 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BrightSunFilms You sure have mate! Now I have more details to tell people now!!

  • @ClixWizard
    @ClixWizard ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I'm glad that you weren't afraid to call out the uninspiring design of Riviera. During my last visit to WDW I decided to check out their newest "premiere resort". I was less than impressed. It's so unfortunate to see what could have been, but at least the classic resorts that were made have such unique identities.

    • @jwaire
      @jwaire ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @AdamEfimoff It looks like a boutique European hotel, which I'm guessing they were going for. I don't understand the hate for it either. It's just not Wilderness Lodge or Grand Floridian.

  • @HarrietsChariot
    @HarrietsChariot ปีที่แล้ว +19

    A coworker of mine did some landscape architecture work for for a firm contracted by DDC in the 90s and I found some of the drawings on a company server. As an LA myself, I love looking at the hand rendering style which was predominate at the time for master planning. It's also fascinating to see the items that were planned but weren't included in the built resorts, like a monorail at Boardwalk.

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s super interesting! Shoot me an email if you’re down to discuss further. Contact@brightsunfilms.ca

  • @ChrisB2007
    @ChrisB2007 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Say what you want about Eisner but there’s no denying that some of the best and most iconic resorts on WDW property were built because of him.

    • @EEvtg
      @EEvtg ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Some of the best rides and parks too...

    • @AtrocityEquine01
      @AtrocityEquine01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      If only a certain channel would learn this instead of acting like he was killing Disney, especially compared to Iger...

    • @susumeyun
      @susumeyun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@AtrocityEquine01 You mean Defunctland? If so, I'd say it's less like acting he was killing Disney and more showing the bad financial decisions he made. But I have to agree the Eisner slander can only be funny for a number of times before it starts getting old

    • @dancooper6002
      @dancooper6002 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@susumeyun Defunctland is obsessed with the "great man" theory of history to the point of absurdity. The CEO of a company like Disney is not nearly as influential as they make it seem.

  • @IanNubbit
    @IanNubbit ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Disney and his parks is the perfect example of one man having a vision that would have never stopped growing, but after he was no longer present, progress slowed heavily

  • @jakezoet-jd1wk
    @jakezoet-jd1wk ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Wow, this is new
    Haven’t seen a new Cancelled episode in a long time, especially one including Disney
    Great job Jake, another awesome and successful video just like always.
    Also, it is quite a shame these hotels were never built, it would be pretty cool to see what they looked like if they were, especially considering the designs of these buildings and rooms

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thank you so much!

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@BrightSunFilms. That Asian, Arabian, and Venetian motels would have all been amazing, and all destroyed by I’ll luck of an oil crisis and an Iranian coup. Didn’t Universal finally build the ‘Venetian’ (Portofino)?

    • @JollyGreenGiant94
      @JollyGreenGiant94 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RLucas3000 I'd say Disney/OLC did when they built Hotel Miracosta and the Mediterranean Harbor at DisneySea

  • @chris.honeycutt
    @chris.honeycutt ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The recent regimes are making Michael Eisner look like Steve Jobs. He should receive much more credit than he does for reinvigorating the company, both in the animation studio and in the resort hotels. The current regime could learn a lot from him.

    • @insertnamehere5809
      @insertnamehere5809 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Time has been kind to Michael Eisner, at least he was the head of Disney when it went through its comeback in the 90's

    • @tanman99
      @tanman99 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It depends on which Eisner we’re talking about. Frank Wells Eisner or post Frank Wells. One saved Disney and largely made it what it is today. The other one almost destroyed it.

    • @EEvtg
      @EEvtg ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tanman99 Not really, that's an overstatement. Yes, things were simpler in the first half of his tenure (and before Euro Disney), but despite some missteps, Eisner was still pumping out amazing projects post-Wells, such as DAK, ToT, Indy Adventure, the Cruise Line, Hercules, Mulan, Tarzan etc. The company was financially doing great when he left...In his last year, 2005, Disney saw all-time record profits. They were also holding the best anniversary celebration they've ever done. If you understand the interpersonal drama with Roy E, then you understand that if he were still around, he would have booted Bob Iger out a long time ago.
      ...I'd take the second half of the Eisner era over what we have now ANYDAY. Yea he destroyed Journey into Imagination and Horizons, but he brought us Alien Encounter and Timekeeper.
      Nice pfp btw😉

    • @tanman99
      @tanman99 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@EEvtg excellent points. Yes it was an oversimplification. And yes Eisner still had great projects even after Wells died and even later in his tenure like the ones you listed. But for every AK there was a DCA that suffered for a long time due to budget cuts, for every ToT there is a camp Minnie Mickey or beastly kingdom that suffered or never came to pass. For every Lilo and Stitch there were countless direct to video sequels that nobody asked for and only served as a cash grab and diluted the Disney brand.
      But you’re right. Whatever we thought was bad at the end of Eisner’s tenure is nothing compared to what Disney fans have had to endure the last few years. Especially for theme park fans.
      I mean come on. Just today they loudly announced the “return” of park hopping, something they arbitrarily took away and now are touting as a “benefit” while quietly increasing AP prices up to 10%?! Anyone remember when Iger admitted the parks were too expensive? Anyone..?

  • @Iliketochopwood
    @Iliketochopwood ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I think most of these were amazing designs but the problem Disney has in the last 20 years is affordability. That is the reason the star wars hotel failed it cost too much to stay there. I think the last thing they need is another 650+ a night hotel. The crowds haven't stopped coming to the park but I think they looked at the financials and with the increased travel costs people can't spend 15k on a disney week. But for 200 a night with a kitchen they can stay off property and get transportation to the park everyday for much less.

    • @michaeltaylor1603
      @michaeltaylor1603 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yep! Who WANT'S a "payment plan" to travel. We already have mortgage, car note, insurance to worry about.

    • @alice45-fgd-456drt
      @alice45-fgd-456drt ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is very true, the pricing around Disney is already downright awful even if you're just going to the park, buying some stuff and eating. Adding in wildly expensive hotels isn't doable for a lot of people. It's such a shame about the Star Wars one too, I would've loved to go but dang I've got bills to pay.

    • @wheelsee
      @wheelsee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why I take Jake's reviews with a grain of salt...he's a young single TH-cam with no kids.

    • @trustytrest
      @trustytrest ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wheelsee He can still be objective about what the experience was like. Just don't count on him to have the same financial situation. Same for any reviewer really.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel ปีที่แล้ว

      "That is the reason the star wars hotel failed it cost too much to stay there." The reason the cost was so high is that it WASN'T a hotel. You weren't paying just to stay there. The fact that there are still people out here laboring under this misconception proves that the failure was a failure to adequately publicize what exactly they were selling.

  • @jennalg99
    @jennalg99 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    So what I've gathered from this video is that there is space for another monorail resort that Disney is just not taking advantage of??? Thats CRAZY!

  • @bobp5356
    @bobp5356 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Michael Eisner is regularly dogged, but he saved Disney and gave it it’s greatest architecture. Michael Graves, Robert Stern, Gwathmey Siegel, and others worked there. Their buildings are classics. That new Venetian DVC hotel is a dog. The new crowd needs to step up its game. Anyway, great video.

    • @gokaury
      @gokaury ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's because he had Frank Wells to temper him. Once Frank passed, Eisner was never the same.

    • @bobp5356
      @bobp5356 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good point.

    • @TheStreetFoolosopherMr187
      @TheStreetFoolosopherMr187 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Frank Wells was the genius too bad he never gotten to be CEO

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheStreetFoolosopherMr187 Nah, stop revisionism.

  • @tylerkochman1007
    @tylerkochman1007 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m someone who knew about a good few of these projects. But even then, I’m amazed at how many there were I DIDN’T know. You always do a phenomenal job at providing a deep dive on subjects

  • @citizenyard
    @citizenyard ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The idea of the Reflections resort is such a disaster. Not only was it a failure but had it been built you could argue it would have been even more so with how it would wreck the ambiance of Fort Wilderness, which is consistently sold out. Why don't they just expand the fort? Its in high demand, could use some extra sites or amenities, is cheaper to build considering its embrace of the outdoors AND would allow them to up prices for sites since they're taking on new features. It's a no brainer in my mind.

  • @bradkoerner1
    @bradkoerner1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow! Incredibly well-researched video! I've followed Disney's architectural projects since the 80's and you have a ton of documents here I've never seen before. Good work! Thanks!

  • @FyreNano
    @FyreNano ปีที่แล้ว +78

    It's refreshing to hear "the oil crisis of the 70s caused issues" instead of the running theme of this channel "the crash of 2008"😂😂

    • @mike04574
      @mike04574 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Surprised not more have been caused by covid

  • @dyj321
    @dyj321 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Recently stayed at Pop. We visited the Riviera since it was on the skyliner, can't describe how disappointed I was in it. It was underwhelming. Pop on the other hand I found to be pretty fun, plus the food was surprisingly great!

  • @BacchaeOphanim
    @BacchaeOphanim ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That Riviera hotel sure doesn't look that distinct from a slightly more fancy interstate-side Hilton hotel.

  • @jovishark
    @jovishark ปีที่แล้ว +9

    thank you for calling to attention how cool and unique those hotel designs were. i feel like out of disneys failed ventures, the biggest projects that are the coolest are the ones that never get made. all of those talented designers stick their neck out and work for so long on things that only exist as drawings and models and ideas. thanks for putting names on those pictures.

  • @m00ndog3
    @m00ndog3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I have a degree in architecture and have practiced and studied it for years and I will say, it’s important to remember that trendiness in architecture is a bad thing in that it fades quickly, goes drastically in the opposite direction causing costly remodels due to its often blind eye towards actual function and experientially has a short lived wow factor for just being different. Many of these proposed hotels were trendy in their time or relied on a deep knowledge of history behind actual geographical areas they are inspired from to allow a guest to be immersed enough in to hold their attention. Disney’s experiential design is a fictional ‘place-making’ that is pulled directly from a story. All theses hotels looked great in their sculptural forms as a model, but how deep and how much of an adventure into a STORY, that is not a history lesson or reproduction or just a short lived wow factor, would they have been. I will say Peter Dominick’s works are MASTERFUL, his lobbies are dramatically deep in story and scale and all just beautifully pull you in to the story the resort. It’s too bad he passed away, I feel like he was just scratching the surface of his potential.

  • @Vanessa_c97
    @Vanessa_c97 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for this video @BrightSunFilms 😊 I have been diving into Disney history recently, especially cancelled/abandoned projects. Further down the rabbit hole I go!

  • @TheRealSeaCrab
    @TheRealSeaCrab ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can definitely see how the grand venetian hotel's cancellation probably greenlit Universal's Portofino Bay, though that hotel was a much smaller version of what the Venetian was supposed to be.

  • @Wnick1996
    @Wnick1996 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My favorite of these canceled hotels has the be The Asian Resort just for the aesthetics alone. Really would have been one of Disney's best looking ones in my opinion

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed!

    • @danielhopeuk
      @danielhopeuk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree! And seeing how beautiful the Asian inspired hotel is at Phantasialand, I’m very surprised they haven’t taken inspiration from it, & how well it’s received

  • @azblueauthor8081
    @azblueauthor8081 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I know that it's not exactly in your usual genre, but I would love for you to do a similar video to this one focusing on the hotels that did get built, talking about their architects and history in the same way you cover the cancelled projects.

  • @bjvincent8786
    @bjvincent8786 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    @15:14 The cancelled Disney's Grande Venezia Resort, reminds of the now Tokyo DisneySea Hotel MiraCosta. It is a pity that something like that was not built in Walt Disney World.

  • @jedibilly
    @jedibilly ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I would've love to see the Asian resort come to fruition! And it still blows my mind that such a potential Epcot pavillion like Thailand hasn't even come to mind! Imagine the possibilities! 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @HunterKutz
    @HunterKutz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can we talk about how Bay Lake tower completely throws off the symmetry of The Contemporary Resort!

  • @Keither754
    @Keither754 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    21:17 in my humble opinion, Port Orleans French Quarter is the BEST Disney World resort hotel…by far. 🎭

  • @Motorsportqueen
    @Motorsportqueen ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jake you are so informative about the history of the projects that never were. Great work

  • @Yawndave
    @Yawndave ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I remember being impressed the first time I walked into the Wilderness Lodge. However, a few years later I visited the Old Faithful Inn. My reaction was, "Oh, wow, now this is the REAL thing!"

  • @SheAlieMcCartney
    @SheAlieMcCartney ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Why don’t you talk about the town of Celebration, in Florida? That was abandoned by Disney, and it makes me curious to know more about it. ❤

    • @Kyle-Russell
      @Kyle-Russell ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It wasn’t abandoned it was just sold off

    • @SheAlieMcCartney
      @SheAlieMcCartney ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kyle-Russell sold off, abandoned to its own luck… the same, they ABANDONED THE PROJECT.

    • @KatherineThrelkeld-kp3od
      @KatherineThrelkeld-kp3od ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You can’t really blame them. It was supposed to be the perfect town, but anytime a murder is committed it kind of spoils the perfection and is really hard to bounce back from. Just my opinion.

    • @SheAlieMcCartney
      @SheAlieMcCartney ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KatherineThrelkeld-kp3od their desires in the first place were a little far fetched, tbh..

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Celebration FL was like a HUGE HOA. A 55 page occupant rule book 📒.

  • @spiderfox1988
    @spiderfox1988 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hell yeah you know it's gonna be a good day when bright sun films drops a new video, thanks for all your hard work on this superb content

  • @joshgoff9330
    @joshgoff9330 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your videos, particularly the Disney ones! The detailed research, obscure information, and entertainment value are unparalleled, great job as always!

  • @ydne
    @ydne ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Disney has the accumulated brilliance to be able to step aside from greatness.

  • @joysbestie25
    @joysbestie25 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is so cool. An interesting tidbit, I worked at the Wilderness Lodge for a bit, and one thing we were told so we could explain to guests who would ask about how to get to the Campgrounds (bc people did get them mixed up frequently and to be fair I did once too) is that there used to be a walking path between the Lodge & the Campgrounds but it's been closed due to being dangerous as a result of "ongoing construction" which is the abandoned construction site of the Reflections hotel. It is a bit of an inconvenience for Guests who are trying to get to the other half without taking the confusing bus system.

  • @SueBobChicVid
    @SueBobChicVid ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Disney history is always a good topic. Jake has another hit. Even though this is a generally well-covered subject, Jake and his team have added many details and images that are seldom shown.

  • @kyunglee9081
    @kyunglee9081 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that you had your family's caricature on the nightstand (and in the last video, too). Thank you for this incredible series. And more so, thank you so much for always, always, always spreading kindness, positivity, and love.

  • @after-worknetwork6095
    @after-worknetwork6095 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whenever you revisit a concept you do a phenomenal job of making it feel new. Good stuff!

  • @speedingatheist
    @speedingatheist ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Heck, Disney spent billions for Star Wars and burned it to the ground with horrible sequels.

  • @callieshields1944
    @callieshields1944 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel so sad about the Mediterranean design not coming into fruition, it’s the most unique hotel I’ve ever seen, and definitely would’ve been a standout at the resort. The Venezia was also really nice and dynamic.

  • @SolielHime
    @SolielHime ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I very much agree, some of my favorite resorts were built in the 70s/80s, with Wilderness Lodge and the Polynesian being my absolute faves!

  • @tvforeverus
    @tvforeverus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Friday’s are the best, as we have a new doc from Bright Sun Films focusing on Walt Disney World? We are the lucky ones indeed!

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam ปีที่แล้ว +22

    19:55 Disney's Star Wars hotel closing in less than 2 years is no surprise when you realise how greedy they got with the pricing

    • @overlookers
      @overlookers ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Imagine dropping a near 10k to sleep in a room without real windows

    • @alice45-fgd-456drt
      @alice45-fgd-456drt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup :( I do get it because of all the immersive stuff, you are paying for some 20 actors to be "on stage" around you at any time and such, but with what the economy is like, it's limited to a very very small group of people who can pay these prices. Add in that it's a very niched theme, and you honestly get a recipe for disaster.

    • @ttintagel
      @ttintagel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@overlookers If all you were getting was a hotel room, that would indeed have been a ridiculous price.

  • @jamesdorrell9134
    @jamesdorrell9134 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So excited for this one. Thanks Jake!

  • @DavidVitrano
    @DavidVitrano ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope that this Reflections Resort can officially get back on building soon.
    But if it cannot be built here. They need to build it as part of a brand new Story Living Community near Yosemite National Park.
    Because that is one of the main Inspirations for the world of Bambi.

  • @jonathonfreeman9233
    @jonathonfreeman9233 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hotels serve an interesting barometer for the health of the associated theme park. It's not a perfect barometer, but it is something to gauge health.
    Obviously, Disney creating something of a disaster is a terrifying sign in Star Cruiser ... but when you consider the construction plans for the parks themselves (or rather the complete absence of them) it's no wonder.
    Whereas Universal has generally been building several resorts - while they prior ones haven't acheived Disney Magic they do have fairly distinct vibes and moderate theming ... the one for Epic Universe (rumored to be named Helios) may very well reach old-Disney magic.
    It even applies to smaller parks. My home park of Lagoon never had a hotel anywhere close to it (it's a seasonal summer only park). After they installed the roller coaster Cannibal (which most enthusiasts rightly consider a destination attraction), it finally got a Hampton Suites just outside the propery limits. Obviously a small park (that spends responsibly) would never get their own hotel designed - but jumping from nothing to a comfort-gen-public hotel is a good sign for the park.

  • @Razorbacksby90
    @Razorbacksby90 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Best channel on TH-cam! Needs to be weekly for selfish reasons

    • @McNetDeck
      @McNetDeck ปีที่แล้ว

      Proper People

  • @jennmars
    @jennmars 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love the constant little mentions of river country, it's what made me find and fall in love with your channel back then

  • @MilesCone
    @MilesCone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Jake! I worked at Disney World from 1973 to 2012 and was there during this time span of your video WOW really brought back some great memories!!

  • @ryouhonoo5
    @ryouhonoo5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bright Sun uploads, I watch. Cheers to another great video Jake

  • @JasonSE1982
    @JasonSE1982 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another home run, Jake! Fascinating and informative as ever. I love that the Wilderness Lodge grew out of these ideas.

  • @asdf072xxp
    @asdf072xxp ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought the Riviera looked like a dressed up office building. Then I saw the drawings for the new Polynesian Tower. All of these DVC buildings (Riviera, Contemporary Tower, Poly Tower) are grossly bland.

  • @johnroot4886
    @johnroot4886 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jake, you and your team never fail to disappoint, you all do a wonderful job, thank you

  • @lostlegend2197
    @lostlegend2197 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another week. Another enjoyable Bright Sun Films video. 😁

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!

    • @FateBoost
      @FateBoost ปีที่แล้ว

      Wished videos where more often but they are always well made

  • @trust3ppa
    @trust3ppa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I already know this is gonna be an absolutely awesome watch!!! Keep up the interesting and exciting work Jake !

  • @ericb.9907
    @ericb.9907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this Italian Venice hotel looks absolutely gorgeous. Would have love to see this!

  • @oliverstemp9132
    @oliverstemp9132 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would have been great to have seen the Asian and Venetian hotels built. Not to mention those rooms would be worth a fortune now.

  • @brandonpiazza6210
    @brandonpiazza6210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know where you source your concept art and photos from but it’s the best I’ve seen online. Thank you this video!!! It was a like a present and treasure trove all in one! I’ll definitely be watching it a couple times this weekend! Awesome job!!🥇

  • @krab1791
    @krab1791 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wilderness Lodge is one of the most beautiful hotels Disney built. It was the first I ever stayed in and was the first Disney Vacation Club property that we bought into (I also own Saratoga Springs and Animal Kingdom).
    thru DVC I have also stayed at the Grand Floridian among other resorts. It too is an absolutely gorges design.
    Reflections looks cold and uninviting.
    You also mentioned Dixie Landings which we stayed at many years ago but that resort was Re themed and became part of Port Orleans. I really missed it when they rethemed it. I never liked the Port Orleans.

  • @SaintGBar22
    @SaintGBar22 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m shocked they didn’t do the Venezia one as that would have been a destination hotel. I would have gone just to see it and i hate Disney. What a stunning idea.

    • @MuhammadAthallahArsyaf
      @MuhammadAthallahArsyaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you could’ve gotten the same type of theming in Vegas hotels. Although Disney would probably have a different take on storytelling but yeah people are going to compare it to Vegas.

  • @kedwards4377
    @kedwards4377 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you are looking for more abandoned Disney locations, you should do a video on the abandoned airport runway by the TTC (the STOL port). The runway is still there and I think Disney uses it to park various vehicles.

    • @Generallyannoyed2024
      @Generallyannoyed2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mears use to use it during training for their bus drivers and the tune KINDA worked.
      Then the construction crews used it for storage and their offices.
      After I left I was told it was destroyed and this was a few years ago.

  • @TokeyTheBear_AOE
    @TokeyTheBear_AOE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every day Jake makes a new video is a good day. Love it. Another excellent video!

  • @TropicalThunder21
    @TropicalThunder21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these videos so much, I literally don’t know what else to say, you’re just awesome 😭

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Meanwhile, there's some nearby parallel universe where they built the Mediterranean, and that universe's Jake just put out a video in his popular "Completed" series about it that features a short digression along the lines of, "Before we get into the details about this amazing hotel, look what boring nonsense they nearly built in that spot instead! Crazy, right?" :/

  • @JstA1denn
    @JstA1denn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m so early, can’t wait to watch a new episode! Love the videos

  • @capt.tuttle6292
    @capt.tuttle6292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video as always. Thank you for the information.

  • @andyalba4802
    @andyalba4802 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stayed in the riviera villa and as a regular hotel it was cool but it didn't really have anything going on, especially their rooftop restaurant which was mediocre compared to the contemporary's California grill

  • @Foxxy999
    @Foxxy999 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great to see somebody doing their own research!
    I've been sifting through primary sources from 68-75 for a WDW book I'm writing, and I can give a hair more context on the Asian. It's something that was glaringly obvious at the time that we would never consider today, but many accounts of WDW in the late 60s did not fail to point out that the US was currently at war in southeast Asia and that maybe building an "Asian Resort" was not a great idea. Disney's official response to this was that the resort was Thai, not Vietnamese, but the comments continued. In 1971 Nixon was campaigning on withdrawing from Vietnam - he actually instead escalated the war - and the timing of all of this could not have helped.
    Disney actually had a gangbusters 1975 and 1976, but by that time Card Walker was in charge and he was absolutely opposed to Disney building more hotels or really anything not called EPCOT Center. Spiraling costs at EPCOT and Disney's dismal box office earnings from 1975 - 1983 hurt just as much. Walker was actually planning on outsourcing all of the design and operation work on the Grand Flo and Cypress Point, basically cutting the deal that Disney insisted on with Tokyo Disneyland and which cost them billions of dollars later. Obviously all of this went out the window when Eisner arrived for reasons you are mote than aware of.

  • @terraJosh
    @terraJosh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man it would be so cool to have that Venetian Venezia hotel today. Its gorgeous.

  • @WDWCentral
    @WDWCentral ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really disappointed that The Venetian never happened would have been my favorite probably

  • @alxpluto
    @alxpluto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great vid, after the old magic kingdom resorts vid and legendary years I was wondering more about these resorts

  • @carfan108
    @carfan108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually saw Disney’s Reflections resort in the background of an episode of Magic of Disney’s Animal Kingdom. In the episode, they were getting 2 of their horses trained for a day where they were going to pull in couple to their wedding at Disney from their hotel, which was the Grand Floridian, to the wedding location in a horse carriage. There were some Disney vehicles in the background, and of course their small building, but that was it. Nothing else.

  • @hermanpesina6328
    @hermanpesina6328 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still don't acknowledge the riviera as a disney resort imo it's a disney springs hotel that got lost on its way home.

  • @bigbeauf_____3167
    @bigbeauf_____3167 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It crazy to know how many abandoned 🏢's just rotting away in America. And some of those buildings were really nice, too. The reason buildings rot away is because it costs a lot of money to tear down the buildings.

  • @Rizzler420-uh4yd
    @Rizzler420-uh4yd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love seeing these old concept images with people waterskiing, sailboating, carrying snorkel and fins… and now we are absolutely *prohibited* from touching the water. 🐊

  • @lnariuss
    @lnariuss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must be honest I am really enjoying this channel Ive been watching so many videos, binge watching whwn I get the chance as well. You are so awesome. Please keep up the good work

  • @raymondmartin6737
    @raymondmartin6737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We went Epcot in 1991, when Disney
    World was 20 years old. We actually
    were staying near Busch Gardens by
    Tampa. and also visited Cape Kennedy,
    KsC, and places like Clearwater and
    Sarasota. Having visited many parts
    of Florida, especially since 2016, and
    lived in SE Florida more recently, quite
    a bit has changed there since over 30
    years ago. 😮

  • @nathanlong7279
    @nathanlong7279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Jake, I love the video!!❤

  • @johnkleven9416
    @johnkleven9416 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The things Disney were doing 60 years ago was way ahead of time. I've never seen anything nowadays on a scale like this with so much creativity. Maybe Dubai is unique but Disney was something else.

  • @gregdelarosa
    @gregdelarosa ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They should build the grand Venetian TODAY exactly to the art concepts picture. European architecture is the most desirable

  • @Drew_42
    @Drew_42 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I can't imagine the amount of research and editing that went into this video. Great work!

  • @flykrisjetz
    @flykrisjetz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of your best vids yet!! Awesome job!

  • @rolandoalvarado2979
    @rolandoalvarado2979 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know anything about this. Love to learn. Love this channel

  • @tylercorr22
    @tylercorr22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video! Your research and delivery is perfect!

  • @GaminylGames
    @GaminylGames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The detail that you put into these videos is admirable. Keep it up man!!

  • @verebellus
    @verebellus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:00 what an amazing shot

  • @davyannajones
    @davyannajones ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They need to build that Mediterranean resort. It’s gorgeous

    • @electricar9
      @electricar9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much better looking and more authentic design than the Venetian in Las Vegas, NV.