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In this episode On Court with USPTA, USPTA Professional and former top 100 ATP player, Jeff Salzenstein, will help you develop the serve as he breaks it down and offers tips that will help improve your technique. A good serve has many components to it, and Jeff breaks down the most important parts like the Trophy position and Contact Point and uses drills like “Continuous Serve” and “Elbow the Enemy” to show you the little things you can do to add more consistency and power to this all-important shot.
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That moment when you realize the guy's serve on his knees is better than your normal serve
Low elbow is on of the most common problems. Shoulder rotation + elbow the enemy is the solution. Great job.
One of the best serving instructional videos that I have seen online.
you are a super teacher! best I've seen on the internet in years!! Very direct and no wasted time!! thank you so much!
Thanks so much, I've been struggling with breaking down all the aspects of a great serve and this is perfect
This is the best serve video I have seen . I like the breakdown steps! Addressing most all aspects from several ways! Well done💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Awesome tips, Jeff! I tried out the finish tip today and it helped my ball control and spin production. Keep up the great work!
Followed this piece by piece.... OMG what an increase in power. Thanks Jeff Salzenstein
the best serve video, period!
SHalom Jeff Salzenstein
Enjoyed Your video on the serve. Clearly You are good at identifying and clarifying details of the tennis serve which is the most complex and for many the most difficult stroke and as You stated the most important to develop, which when done so properly can be a formidable weapon.Obviously You were taught and trained well by someone who improved Your serve that enabled You to rise significantly in the ATP world rankings. Especially value how You take this student who has a seemingly reasonably good form of a serve to begin with, and step by step You give and teach him the valuable improvements which improves his serve and functions to show and teach us the basic elements of the serve for us to develop and implement in our serve. Also appreciate how You speak with the student first telling him what good he has to begin with and then in each step You show how seemingly small changes are important and significant yet simple and easy to do. The student and we see the immediate improvement which establishes positive feedback, positive reinforcement to the new behavior which encourages the establishment of this behavior to become solid.
Initially a good friend, and tennis partner taught me basics of each stroke that he learned from "Dr." Alex Mayer. He emphasized these strokes are simple and bio-mechanically efficient. The serve he taught me was much simpler and less complex , though not very powerful or fast rather emphasized consistency,, top spin, control. He showed me and taught me to be able to hit a serve with extreme spin that when sit looping high would bounce over the head of even the tallest players.
Since then, more recently have been developing more modern and powerful strokes. Have viewed many videos from a number of sources. Few have the proper focus and development from good solid basics and are bio-mechanically sound and efficient.. Your instruction here obviously comes from good teaching and development. Already i've benefited from Your video regarding the First Move, specifically initial placement and initiating my service motion. Additionally benefited from some improvement in my feet position in my stance.
Initially found videos from Coach Kyril on the serve. His comparison of the serve motion to throwing a ball in uniquely simple and accurate. He takes his brother who had not played tennis, starts him with the ball throwing to develop the motion, then with a racket and successfully serves well. This helped me to begin developing a more powerful serve. Later when viewing videos showing Andy Roddick's powerful, fast serve, You can see his motion, compactness, loading, significant rotations of hips, shoulders, etc. are similar to a baseball pitcher.
The videos which i've found most valuable, the most accurate and best are from Nick Bollettierri his IMG Academy. They have also outlined each element of the serve extremely well. Also have this comparison of a tennis server the way he loads his body and releases this energy to a baseball pitcher.
A suggestion for a few of the motions, positions and elements is to consider what initiates the correct ones through necessity rather that direct. Example: Knee bend. Everyone teaches how essential and important this is to a proper powerful serve. From the Bollettieri-IMG videos i learned the knee bend comes best by shifting and pronating the hip opposite the racket hand, outward the knee bend comes naturally and adds more to the loading thus more power. Similarly does proper pronation come from the axial turning, twisting of the shoulder and forearm and a loose enough wrist that naturally bends. The student here, though he has a good knee bend, clearly lacks the hip shift, pronation which Your serve has and each of the professional You show all have, some more than others as also their body loading vary too which is correlated to their power and bio-mechanical efficiency.
Also, consider the following principle: more can be from a student copying a human "model" of motion than piece-wise development. Saw this in a video also, which showed how children learned to a sport by watching and copying players they see.
Reminded me how each time after we watched a professional match on TV, we went out to play and also did noticeably better. We did not necessarily develop exactly properly for several reasons, but the principle proves true. With good basics, and closer live viewing and additional instruction like You did with the student here makes the necessary improvements.
Also found a few videos from Vic Braden who shows exact detail of motion in slow motion of some of the best players to learn from like Roddick's serve, Federer's forehand, Nadal's Backhand. There are a few others who also show these and others' in detail to learn from.
Would appreciate Your thoughts and responses.
All The Best
Absolute superior description! Thank you!
The first move is such a hugely important tip. For so long I have been struggling with my toss consistency, even though my tossing arm is quite straight. The first move naturally creates a nice little loop of my tossing shoulder which nails the toss consistency!
The interesting thing is to actually FEEL the lesson and the suggestion like I was in the court with you Jeff... can't wait to try this on later today...!!! GREAT lesson!
Jeff, you're awesome all the way around especially on the serve. When someone cares about their game and is able to get more piece of mind because of what you're teaching it's impossible to put a value on that. If l had someone like you when l was younger l would have gone all the way. If we ever talk privately l can go deeper into that.
YOU'RE THE BEST!
really perfect job i learned so much step by step. thank you so much and please keep making videos like that
Hello Jeff just wanted to thank you ^^ he took me a year but I now have a better serve thanks to most of your tips :)
tom knows how to serve. beautiful looking shot young man.
i got the same hat, shorts, socks, and racket as tom.
hope to see him in the ATPs.
I needed this so much thanks
Wow! Excellent lesson. I see a few questions below regarding toss and grip. I think this lesson is for people who already know those fundamentals. Once again, a great lesson.
Much better than most stuff on the Internet
Tried this new foot position tonight with immediate results thankyou
Mr. Salzenstein is a superb tutor.
a fantastic video of the great Jeff
Great job Jeff!!
Thanks. Many serve positions from start to finish explained very wel.l
Excellent presentation. Thanks Jeef
jeef?
Thanks Jeff, great video
awesome teaching. Thanks.
That was absolutely useful!
Awsome. I cant thank you enough for this video
great video,very detail
Just Marvelous !! Thank you !!
GREAT INETRUCTION VIDO! THANK YOU!
The shoulder turn with the stance followed by the jump is so important.
thanks for the video
Finishing with the palm up is for slice serves, using supination ...not for flat serves which will be using pronation naturally....not induced intentionally which could lead to pain. Topspin and twist serves end up with the wrist turning counter clockwise after brushing up on the ball ending to the right side of the body even behind the body, with the thumb pointing to the ground.
As a student of Van der Meer in the '70's and certified pro with PTR in 1979, I had to learn the hard way like most people because he didnt create a differentiation between the three major serves and just bundled everything in one word, pronation.
I first saw pronation from Colin Dibley of Australia as I filmed him with my 16mm Bolex in the '60's when he was the fastest server doing 146mph serves ahead of Roscoe Tanner who wa doing 140mph.
Colin, used a very wide platform stance like McEnroe, a very lazy forward motion as against today's jumping at the ball upward motion but he pronates viciously at the ball with his wooden racquet. Can you imagine how much more speed he could generate with today's racquets?
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so good !!!! god job guys !!!
very good teacher👍
good tips and good drills
I really love what you’re teaching, but am wondering how strings/palm up at the finish (shown at the ) fits with pronation through impact (not presented here).
With SO many "palm uppers" in the world, would of been nice to hear more about pronation in this video. I think it's one of the two big components for an effective serve.
So, the toss places the ball above the front or back shoulder?
Do you have any tips on syncing toss and racquet? Thanks I have always had a jerky motion
Great, thx... :)
How to serve from Deuce court where swing direction is different from the target?
Pinpoint and what you are referring to as platform serve should be determined by your foot dominance. If you are right handed and left foot dominant you should be using a pinpoint. If you are right handed and right foot dominant you should be using a platform serve. You can find your foot dominance by some one nudging you in the back while you are balanced and the foot you step with is you dominant foot. You can also use the shovel trick. Whichever foot you use to drive the shovel in the ground is your dominant foot.
Jef, do you have a video of you playing Michael Chang at the US Open? Would like to see it 👍
i like roddick serve! i believe that 40% of serve speed comes from legs... plaform stands goesnt connect legs wiht rest of serving motion.
great video.But I want to ask you a stupid crist. (there are no such .have I learnd on a course for couces) How can this finish with the parm up influence the serv when the ball are long gone from the racket (stays in the strings fore 4 mill.sec.) Olaf coach Copenhagen.
His relaxed serve bounce on the box and then hit the back fence. If i did that it'd need 1 or 2 more bounce before hitting the back fence
Some super slow motion would have been helpful. Also the contact point of the ball after pronation is absent and would have helped.
At age 57 I changed from pinpoint to platform great for consistency
how can palm be up if you pronate?
man Tom didn't even really need help at all. The difference would be more dramatic if he had taken one of those "rec players" from those footage of serves going wrong and correcting them to hit like Tom.
Good point. Probably he wants to show people the right way, and it would take too long to fix a rec player (like me, btw). But still, I would love to see one of these pros take a crappy server and fix them right up!
Hey Jeff,
Don't know about the last tip. Pronation of the wrist? shouldn't it be forearm, as this creates natural wrist snap any way??mmmmmmmm Look forward to your comment
I agree...if you slow down the video, you'll see he's not pronating because he's trying to finish with the palm up. This is incorrect. You want to finish with the thumb down and the tip of the racket moving toward the ground. This will allow for full pronation of the arm. Look at Sampras and Federer in slow motion. When they finish, their elbows are bent and the racket tip is pointed to the ground.
I like this video a lot but I was thinking the same thing. Finishing with the palm up seems counter intuitive to pronation.
I've been a coach for 30 years and this "racket face up" serve finish technique is something I don't understand. I know players like Haas, Roddick, and Harrison do it, but when you slo mo their finishes, they are initially pronating just the same as players who don't it (Sampras, Federer, Isner, Karlovic, etc). But then they manipulate their hand afterward so the face finishes upward rather than in the same pronated/neutral position. Seems like an overly complicated affectation/idiosyncrasy that doesn't really have to do with the ball's action because it happens so long after the ball has left the strings.
Why not just let the racket follow the same, biomechanical path that the pronation creates? The only practical reason one might finish with the wrist curled under is if it would affect the ball's action. But for that to happen, it would have to start DURING the pronation phase - maybe at the tail end to add spin or speed to the ball. But this would seem to conflict with the pronating motion per se. Furthermore, I'm not able to see this wrist curl happening that early in any of these swings. It just looks to me like everyone's racket face has fully turned out to the side fence (textbook pronation) and the ball is long gone before the wrist is curled under. Incidentally, there also seems to be a risk in finishing this way. That is, if you curl under too early, you could start "under pronating" like Kei Nishikori. One of the main reasons he hasn't won a major is because he hits his serve sort of like a novice throws a ball. He snaps the wrist down too early, cutting off the pronation and the larger, rotating movement of the elbow out to the side fence.
Would be nice to hear Jeff's full, technical explanation as to why he feels finishing this way is better.
@@squarebomb20 do you even play tennis? He's not wrong.
OMG - this music!!
He said that you get more leg drive out of the back foot with a platform serve?? No no no. You get like 70/30% drive ratio between your two feet with the platform stance unless you're Roddick or Monfils and have your feet positioned very close together. The step up or pin point serve allows for both feet to equally push yourself upward into the ball, giving more power at the expense of less consistency due to increased bodily movement.
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Great serve coaching video but very annoying and loud distracting music.
Yes agreed, it was so annoying and unabated
19.33 .. Pronation ? .. or Suppination
How did Moutet get in here 8 years ago hitting his 102mph?
Do all the same tips apply to female players? Would have been nice to see some female pros featured in the examples or a female student in addition to Thomas
"elbow the enemy" what the tip!
What the hell? Did he sneak a ‘point’ serve in there at 8:01?
What about grip?
+António Ribeiro continental
Why is the terrible music so terribly loud? Great video otherwise. Maybe time for an updated version with the music track down 90%
It’s cool how that kid chicken wings his left arm.
'One of the best serves on the ATP tour' hmm
Jeff who?
Interesting...Jeff wants you to put that right toe about in the middle of left foot. Yet virtually every serve of his that he shows in the video his feet, as are Mr Harrison's and other platform stance pros (see fed, djok, sampras) are always in the more accepted position. Toe at or slightly behind line drawn back from left foot heel. Not sure why Jeff is doing one thing and preaching another. This happens in so many videos. Pros tell you to do one thing while showing you something else. Perhaps he means to imply that this version of the stance is for rec players with limited flexibility. As usual with Jeff...great tips otherwise.
Isn't it different on ad and deuce side? I know I have to adjust.
One size doesn't fit all... Everyone has to find its own comfortable position regarding ideal biomecanical swing path if you look Federer and sampras you'll see differences and similitaries...
Very helpful, that background music is awfully annoying (and unnecessary) though
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They keep showing Blake and these other dudes ... put clips of big servers, Pete, Goran, Ivo, Raonic, Boris, Roddick, not Blake lol
While this material is good i highly recommend avoiding the tennisevolution.com subscription website due to misleading billing practices and impossibility to cancel montly rebilling - i never signed up for monthly rebilling but when i tried to contact support there's literally no "SEND" button on the support website, the info@jeffsalzenstein email bounces and the phone number provided hangs up on you. Super sketchy and disappointing given the quality of training material.
he looks like james franco
Literally no resemblance
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I Like Jeff Salzenstein but can only take him a little bit at a time due to his way of speaking to adults as if they are children.
An old teacher of mine, said that when you have to transmit an idea to another person, you have to explain it as if you were talking to a 8 years old child. There are thousands of tennis teachers, but you can see at club level, the majority of tennis players have bad service motion. Sometimes it´s better to take extra time explaining things.
60% of the time, his returns work every time because 50% of his returns start without a serve. That makes his statement 110% accurate 🙂
"50 percent of all points start with a serve" WHAT? What do the other 50 percent of points start with, Jeff?
+stockton350 ....the return, Stockton.
+Timg Gabor Those points still start with the serve, dude. All points do.
+stockton350 yes but individually speaking half of the points played are only served by you, which is the focus of the video
Actually, I once saw a match in a low level league where 51% of the points started with a serve. That extra 1% was amazing! I'm joking, lol.
I too was amazed that he said it in that manner. I think he meant to say something like about 50% of the points you play will start with you serving. However, even that is somewhat misleading. How about just saying the point doesn't start until someone serves! Or, if you are not serving you are returning? What do we know? He is a Cardinal and Former Top 100.
Great video. However Tomas maybe didn't need any help at all. Would have been more interesting if you coached a 'mere mortal'.
Turning the palm up is supination, pronation is turning the palm down. I thought you should pronate and not supinate ???
Tennis is great but music is irritating
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Nice video but why add this boring music is this a commercial video? We hardly can concentrate on your speech...
The music is totally unnecessary and distracting.
copy
this guy is stuck in the stone age
this fool didnt talk about the serve toss and how to toss and where to toss.
Yeah, he did, there was a whole section on it.