The European NH90, Is it surpassed the American Black Hawk?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- The NHIndustries NH90 is a European medium-sized, twin-engine, multirole military helicopter. It was the first production helicopter to feature entirely fly-by-wire flight controls.
The carbon fiber is not good for a utility helicopter. Bullet holes are hard to repair.
I have never liked the NH90 for various reasons. But more importantly our SOCOMD/A special force operators did not like it either - SASR hung on to their ageing Blackhawks by the skin of their teeth - ask anyone [99%] of SOCOMD/A operators 'which' helicopter they prefer and the new Blackhawk wins every time. Without going into detail about the positives vs negatives of both platforms, Australia finally has decided on a mature, plug + play for upgrades Blackhawk.
And finally selected the Apache E - several Apache E's are already delivered and are in the process of IOC.
But what is as a side issue an unprecedented FUBAR even for the most incompetent and dysfunctional Dept of Defence globally - DoD's headquarters in 'Russell' - the decision by the Chief of Army to actually 'bury' what are still capable helicopters that were in their innovatory - this is a national scandal. To simply 'bury' these helicopters in landfill is a national disgrace - why we could not sell them is simply absurd - and if it was not due to the brilliant accountability of Senate Estimates Australians and the world would probably have never known.
Australia's Dept of Defence is 'the' most secret Department in the entire APS. Globally - only the US arguably is more secretive. Billions wasted. A giant cover up - and 0 accountability. No sackings of APS civilian DoD staff, 0 sackings of the bloated mid level officer cadre at Russell.
In other words - business as usual.
The Blackhawk has a worse service record than the Taipan with regards to mechanical failures crashes and deaths, even considering the number built. The Blackhawks were purchased as the US forced it. Their military industrial complex is selling less and less products and as Australia is run by the US and our military fight for them, they want to show a stronger US presence I Australia. Australia has no military, they are all loyal to the US and believe their lies.
US is not retooling and changing its logistical/maintanance foot print to support a foriegn helo... US has over 2000 UH60s in service that fill every role and need.
Too many heads coming with too many ideas and too many requirements.
The story of every multinational program in Europe involving Germany.
That and it was "sabotaged" to make way. They Should just wait for the V280 Valour. There was something sketchy with the head mount failing to correctly display flight data in night time flying by instruments that caused an accident resulting in fatalities.
NH 90 being dumped by countries all over because of tech problems and unserviceability.
@@paulfeaheny3055 Resulting in so high costs its not useable
Australian Military cancelled their order to buy this NH90. Because this helicopter is grounded.
They want Black Hawk in their military.👍
Norway has calceled the NH90 contract becouse of delivery delays. bad service program, and so on.
We have now ordered Sikorsky MH-60R Seahawk Helicopters instead.
This should do us well for several years.
Love from Norway
Also. a few years back, we got new SAR Helos.
We went from SeaKing (Used as SAR helicopter for the norwegian airforce from 1973 to september 2020 "2020-2023 was a face out period") to SeaQueen. we ordered 16.
I think the MH-60R Seahawk as a naval patrol and antisubmarine helicopter together wil AW101 Marlin, will give us both Combat and SAR capabillities that can serve us for many many years.
The NH90 should never have been ordered. And the norwegian government searched for quite a long time for a reason to get out of the NH90 contract.
If memory serves me correct, there is an upcoming trail where Leonardo Helicopters has the opinion of that Norway was in the wrong then they broke the contract.
IMO as a norwegian citizen, and quite updated on our military, i think we should just by us out of the whole NH90 thing.
Leonardo did not delivere on one singel point.
In fact, they delivered the first 2 (or 3) NH90 out of spec of what was in the contract.
It could also not do anti sub missions in about the first year.
The service program costed about tripple of what the contract stated, and Leonardo could not supply high enough amount of spare parts to storage. Those two reasons is what was used to get out of the program.
I wonder how it holds up against the Merlin?
Airbus NH90 The Tiger seems to be more modern and navy worthy helicopter to counter enemy submarine and sabotaging activities. Aside smoother in above ocean manuaver.
Good choice for Indian Navy. Recently MH60 Romeo helicopter was inducted.
Preferred on AW/MH-101
Too unreliable with an availability rate of 44%
Actually less than that - out of 80 NH 90 (german Army) just about 12 to 16 are available at any time. In the German Navy are about five out of 18 are ready to take off at any time.
Australia got rid of there NH-90s and bought more Blackhawks to replace them. Obviously the NH-90s were junk..
Since the NH-90 is standing on the shoulders of the UH-60, it might just surpass the Hawk. Nothing surprising to be honest.
US Black Hawk is battle proven, others?
Just a little ignorant, the typical arrogant American, the NH90 had its baptism of fire in Iraq and then was used for years in Afghanistan, Libya, Lebanon, Mali, Somalia, this as far as use in the hinterland is concerned, at sea as a helicopter embarked on an infinite number of missions, the last one in the Red Sea against Somali piracy and Yemeni Uti. Be careful to inform yourself before writing.
Just a little ignorant, the typical arrogant American, the NH90 had its baptism of fire in Iraq and then was used for years in Afghanistan, Libya, Lebanon, Mali, Somalia, this as far as use in the hinterland is concerned , at sea as a helicopter embarked on an infinite number of missions, the last one in the Red Sea against Somali piracy and Yemeni Uti. Be careful to inform yourself before writing.
It's not battle proven, when has it been used against a nation with sophisticated weapons?
The Black Hawk proved itself in combat in Somalia as a helicopter that was not built for combat but to carry stuff. The Black Hawk is just a helicopter, not a miracle weapon. The Black Hawk had problems when it was new too. And it's 1000 times worse these days with all the modern technology that's installed everywhere. More electronics leads to more errors in the entire weapon system. With enough time and money, the NH 90 will also become a good and reliable helicopter.
Thats why Norway )My country) has now ordered SeaHawk instead for NH90 :)
Je croyais que les Australiens avaient dit que c'était de la merde le NH90, ont m'aurait mentis ?
Long story short.. European engineering
You can’t even proof read your title? Narration too is ai generated!
The NH90 and variants were good helicopters. Just pushed out of use due to the US and the decreasing demand of equipment from their customers. Nh90 is better than the Blackhawk.
poor reliability though
@@jonlaurenzreyes1902 No they werent
@@chippyjohn1floors bend, aren’t robust enough, engine reliability was spotty, software is full of flaws, continuous tail rotar vibration and multiple crashes pushed Australia to ground the NH90 and go with the more reliable Blackhawk.
@corsair6 that's not the reason for disposing of them. The Blackhawk is not more reliable also, just look at its crash reports.
@@chippyjohn1 bruh majority of crashes are human error not mechanical, besides that blackhawk has 100x more flight hours than nh90
NH90 = It doesn't fill the expectations (TRASH). Australia and Norway said so. Germany has the same opinion with an availability rate less than 40%. The Black Hawk is battle proven and no issues.
Nh 90 regretted by Manu eu countries