I hate the fact that they constantly tried to emulate other successful games without realizing we were all there for Battlefield, because we never wanted to play other games.. we want to play Battlefield!
Bad management always misses this. “We need to make a game for Fortnite, Hunt Showdown, and Call of Duty players.” “Why won’t those players just play Fortnite, Hunt Showdown, or Call of Duty? Can’t we make a game for Battlefield players with a free element to get others to check it out?”
@@davidnorton5333 Cuz they are not driven to make awesome game for fans and others ..they are just driven by greed and nothing else...and that's what we all get for this Christmas...a bag full of crap and some...get your wallets out cuz' you all gonna need them a lot and often.Me...going back to all good BF 4...nothing wrong with that one.
@@gurjindersingh3843 You know what? For me Firestorm was amazing and by far the best Battle Royale experience still out there. (>>Experience not in general, it was buggy and needed some more love from dice) I still think they should have released for free as standalone. Dice do you want to sell skin and heroes? Then why the f you abandoned a great project such Firestorm where.. you know, skins and heroes make some sense at least, even for a Battlefield game. But no they decided that putting some heroes in a 128pvp players was a perfectly fine idea 🥴🥴🥴 I've completely lost track of what they want from Battlefield since a lot ago... At this point I think they don't have a clue of what a good battlefield should been... All this make me so sad, it's depressing
Without paid dlc maps they have to figure out monetization so i think specialists with unique gadgets is the best option they have to make money through selling skins like apex/warzone
@@febzkk id rather go back to paid dlc maps to be honest rather than a battlepass. By this stage of bf4s lifespan we already had china rising dlc, 2 months after release.,
@@delgrady10 But would you honestly pay for DLCs for the current game? DLCs mean nothing if rest of the game sucks. The game would die even quicker with paid DLCs. The problem isn't live service but how EA keeps failing to deliver them.
@@febzkk I think the different customization for the standard soldier would have been fine. Maybe if they did something like what World War 3 is doing, I’d maybe even get some cosmetics, but it all comes down to how good the game is at that current state. EA has bad timing and shouldn’t be worrying about cosmetics right now.
@@KAPAFlyer dice has never been the problem, except maybe bfv, but their vision was great for that game, too. dice now is a shell of what it used to be and that simply comes down to managerial problems. why would any long-time devs stick at dice when they can't develop the games they want to?
I cant believe ea put their developers through this and still forced a release. It would of never been a battlefield game but right now 2042 is embarassing
Utterly mind boggling how the suits told DICE to "chase trends" when the core, classic Battlefield experience is what people want. No other game plays like Battlefield, that's what made it so successful!
Its also why you play battlefield, I played battlefield for its large scale action, vehicles, feel, and individuality but they made it like every other game and ruined the title, no other game could you get into a viper and have a battle with a foot soldier or blow up a tank with a repair tool. Almost all games before battlefield 5 where so enjoyable and I would drop 100s of hours for weeks on end not playing anything else but 2042 ive opened 3 times.
I love how EA forces most of their studios to use the Frostbite engine, notoriously known as one of the most difficult engines to design games with; while simultaneously treating the only people on the planet with any deep level of understanding of the Frostbite engine like shit, and essentially chasing them away is such a galaxy brain move. I wish I had the IQ of your average EA executive.
As much as I love salt, Frostbite was created by DICE specifically for Battlefield games. The ONE THING it does extremely well is battlefield. It does environmental destruction and FPS games pretty well. Though losing a majority if not all of the people who helped make the engine has to hurt
I think dice should rip out the rendering engine behind frostbite and license that, while remaking the entity system and tools to be more game-agnostic.
You don't understand, big game companies are not owned by people who give a shit about the game, or any game, or ever even touvching or LOOKING at a game dude, they just want money. This is why AAA gaming is dead and why I am sick of the same shit every fucking AAA game. STOP PREORDERING FUCKING GAMES
@@MechNominal they couldnt retain talent because EA wanted shitty features that dont fit the franchise to be in, making developers leave in the long process who wanted to innovate the franchise. pretty clear & simple
In conclusion if you are expecting Battlefield to return or feel like any of the old games like BF4 or older you are in for disappointment. The studio isn’t the same anymore and the ideas are different. And with the latest changes it basically confirms that.
You are naive if you expected new Battlefield to "feel" like anything before BF1. People that made BF3 were leaving even before BF4 launch and most left before BF1. Dice has staff rotation after every release. People that worked on 2042 clearly cared enough to make it a Battlefield game. They struggled with Frostbite, EA and Covid, but somehow managed to deliver a game with core design of a BF series. I hope Zampella has enough balls to prevent EA from ruining 2042 and series as a whole
@@thebigsam Bruh no shit it’s suppose to have that lmao every FPS is suppose to that’s the core of the game besides that the game is ass and broken and don’t feel like battlefield
This has to be one of the biggest disappointments I've experienced in gaming. I've always loved BF ever since 1942 and it's so depressing to see it become a shell of it's former self.
I regret pre-ordering the gold edition, people made the same mistake with BFV I should have listened to that. This game will probably be supported for a year and then abandoned like with BFV.
It all comes down to us gamers. We have to come together and not buy these games. We have to say make what we want if not sorry no money for you. But that’s easier said because people will buy and they will make Some money. But I will for myself say I won’t buy another battlefield game. So many games are broken now. Cod, vanguard, halo, battlefield. They all have issues. Sad to see how corporate greed can ruin something so joyful and entertaining. EA needs to refund to anyone who bought the game at any period of time
What’s sadder is people are still defending this train wreck citing the shitty launches of every other title when the core gameplay of this title has been the worst and battlefield 5 didn’t even feel like a real WW2 game
TLDW: The game was created in about a year. The majority of DICE Senior Developers have left. Nobody currently employed at DICE has relevant Frost Bite experience to develop a AAA title. DICE is dead as a studio and cannot be trusted going forward to not only fix BF2042, but also with any major future title.
And games like BF V and espacially Battlefront 2 had somewhat redeemed themselves due to effort the devs put into them, just so they had to leave these games and help develop a game that would have just needed more time.
So aside from the "working from home" complications and an out of date engine, a lot of 2042's problems can be summed up with the higher ups asking "Well, what is Activision doing?" Good to know they'd rather chase trends instead of going with what's tried and true.
They don't care about the old fans, they want to capture the new ones because kids (18 and under) typically spend much more on cosmetics than the average adult. Yall should hear how these developers think about the " fans" when it's just them talking, most absolutely despise the battlefield community.
Exactly! Back in the Bad Company 2 days (my first battlefield) people checked the game out because it was DIFFERENT. It offered a new experience from Cod with its team play, vehicles, and destruction. Everything that annoyed me about cod was solved by this game so I switched. As a result BF3 became a hype release further innovating on that existing formula and battlefield became a household name. Not because they did what everyone else did, but because they offered an experience you couldn't get anywhere else.
The removal of classes is the number one thing that bugs me so much. Its a core part of the balance, identity of the franchise and they removed it. So frustrating
I agree, even though as a Tanker, it pissed me off always treading into a dozen or so Assaults wielding rockets. But now you can't tell who the fuck is who. Is that a squirrel? An old lady? Or some walking Adamantine Shield surviving fucking nukes going off on it? Best part? EVERYONE has rockets. I have never feared being a tanker. Ever in Battlefield. No amount of strategy or sticking with your team/really good squad will ever be enough to be effective with vehicles. The whole game is literally: Hope the fuck you don't die- oh wait, you will if you don't adopt (spawn) camping or glitches to get the upper hand. And don't get me started on the ugly colors they used on everything...
@@MLPIceberg In bf4 and bf1 a good tank crew could absolutely wreck but they had to actually work together and be aware of anti-tank classes. Now you just assume every specialist is gonna be on your ass from every angle and freaking hovercrafts pre-patch were stronger then tanks
Maybe ex-Dice devs will come back and battlefield will have a comeback like COD MW 2019 or Ripple Effects (formerly known as DICE LA) will be developing battlefield games. Maybe I'm too optimistic lol.
@@fluffyRabbit01 you are definitely too optimistic did you not play BFV they abandoned that game and if this game doesn't get the player count back soon then this will also be abandoned. I will definitely not be pre-ordering the next battlefield. This game will probably be dead when the next modern warfare comes out next year.
@@NoMansLand98 I think you got me wrong but I am still too optimistic. I wasn't saying bf2042 would have a comeback cuz I just don't see it happening. This game is conceptually flawed. I was thinking that one battlefield game might come out in the future that might be developed by previous dice employees and it'll be fun again.
The initial trailer is even more interesting in hindsight. Referencing memes and actual player behavior got the world thinking the team had their finger on the pulse and knew what the fans wanted; a team based strategy-shooter with enough player freedom to make some wacky and memorable moments. Turns out only the people that made the trailer had that mindset, and the rest of the studio and EA got amnesia and thought they were making teamcalloverquakego.
@@skylermcbride9428 Yeah. I agree. It plays so much like Call of Duty. Kinda why I played Battlefield instead of CoD... but now I guess I won't be touching FPS games ever again. No way in hell the damn Publisher giants will bring back the glory that was once great FPS games.
Really? Referencing memes and player behavior is the exact opposite of having "your finger on the pulse" and quite literally illustrated that they have no clue what people like in a battlefield game.
RIP Battlefield. We had a great time over the 19 years that you have been my core franchise. Lots of great memories to cherish. You were once special, Different. Quirky at times, yes. But so enjoyable. Having a squad of mates working together as a team to get that W was the most rewarding feeling. I will now move on, I will not look back, as I don't want to dishonor my memories of the good times we had. Love you, Mean it!
I believe they usually do, but the AAA game industry is a different beast, can't market faulty non functioning software in the IT world and expect to survive, but you can release a half finished video game and profit unfortunately.
@@Blackreaper95 Agree. The game industry is the only one that can release software with half of the requirements, full of bugs, charge a full price, and people still pay for it. We as customers need to change!
So most of DICE's developers left during Fawzi Mesmar's time as Design Director (BFV, Battlefront II, BF2042) and the main complaint was poor and inconsistent design choices leading to lack of time... I guess maybe putting the guy behind Candy Crush in charge of Battlefield was a bad decision?
And tbh he has done a really good job,, they spent barely anything developing the game, and have already made the money back on pre orders alone. The game is a sales success.
MW2019’s operators were fine because they were cosmetic only and (mostly) fit the game. BFVs elites were fine(ish) because they were cosmetic only and (again, mostly) fit the game. V’s skin customization was good as well. It certainly could’ve used improvements but it was also cosmetic only. 2042s specialists are appalling at best because they are tied to core gameplay and uprooted a system that the playerbase enjoyed, and they don’t fit the theme at all.
@@KrakkenXXX No they didn't fit at all, like completely not except for the last batch of skins which were top notch. Sadly the damage had already been done by releasing shit skins and operators that people apparently like, ruining the visuals for the rest who enjoy their games more true to the theme. I was ready to spend some money on the game, but why would I when other people drag me out of the theme by wearing shit? Yes Battlefield V was better than 2042, but it was far from portraying WW2 in a authentic (but fun) way.
@@snaakie I remember pre ordering BFV and getting the bonus soldier cosmetics on launch (And my shitty red camo for one gun piece by piece over the course of months lol) I believe from memory they were actual uniforms like fallschirmjäger and stuff like that, I was actually pretty impressed. I thought they were going to go down the road of authentic uniforms for the factions, I was sorely disappointed when they just started introducing all this what if shite.
This is really no surprise. Exactly what happened to Visceral, they were amazing at making single player stories. Dead space 1 & 2 are still some of my favorite story driven horror games. Then dead space 3 came along and EA forced Visceral to include microtransactions and coop campaign. What horror game with multiplayer has been successful, very very few. Then after DS3 didn't exceed expectations, it did well but not EAs stupid high standards well, they forced Visceral to work on a Battlefield game. Well we all know how that went, a studio known for single player experiences forced to do multiplayer. BF Hardline also didn't do well. So EA closed Visceral, and along with it one of my favorite franchises. F*** EA, I'll never forgive them for what they did to visceral.
Breaks my heart that I will never be able to continue the feeling I had playing the earlier games with the new direction the development is taking. sitting with my buddies in high-school playing the battlefield 3 beta, one of my best memories.
That's exactly how I feel. I was HOPING 2042 would let me relive my high-school days of staying up late into the night playing bf4 with friends having to wake up early in the morning for school the next day. It's just sad to see.
Man, I remember the bf3 beta like it was yesterday. Battlefield 3 and 4 were my all time favorites, such amazing games! Then they lay this garbage on us! Hell no!!!
Amazing video and super insightful into why this game is a complete train wreck. It sounds like even if they do "fix" the game it will still be EA's live service vision and not what Battlefield fans want.
Exactly this. Before you could always see how it could be fixed and at least appreciate what they are aiming for. With this the entire focus of the game is what's really wrong with it. That's obviously why so many key BF Dev veterans have jumped ship. They didn't believe in what they were making anymore. RIP Battlefield and it's hard to see it ever being as good again. They just want a military Apex Legends to compete with Warzone and Fortnite hence who they've now put in charge. EA just strangles everything they touch. 2042 is the worst excuse for a BF I'll ever play. Glad I bought the disc so I can try and sell it.
"This will be a love letter to the Battlefield franchise", yea so that was a big fucking lie. I'm done with BF as a whole. Either Dice completely separates from EA, or they sink on the ship together. Not gonna stick around to find out.
Sad to see what is happening to my favorite franchise. Battlefield, It's time to say goodbye. DICE, thank you for the hundreds of hours of entertainment in BF3 and BF4.
@@ForgottenArmy1944 It seems that you and I both like things that are past their prime:) In all seriousness, Milan has been doing well for almost 2 years now! And hopefully they pull it off tomorrow despite the injuries 🙌!
It’s such a shame how this wonderful franchise turned out. I sunk uncountable hours into Battlefield One. It’s my second favorite multiplayer shooter of all time; only Halo 3 has fonder memories. I’m so sick of hero shooters. It completely ruins the immersion. When I played Battlefield One, I felt like a terrified American soldier coming under artillery fire in a remnant of France’s old regime (Ballroom Blitz). I felt like a German conscript facing off against the British on the Somme. Hero shooters destroy that immersion.
Battlefield 1 nailed the atmosphere more than any other game I know of, from visuals to music to sound design. Just the feeling of being a random WWI soldier, prone in a muddy trench, machine gun fire and explosions raining around you, hearing the screams of other soldiers near and gas slowly creeping by.
@@axess374 A very close second is a game called hell let loose, it’s a realistic ww2 shooter that reminds me of BF1 somewhat, I really feel like an American shoulder storming on Normandy beach and etc. gunfire everywhere explosions and machine guns. Try it out, definitley my favorite new FPS.
@@axess374 I gotta say, being a tank hunter in BF1 while having an extremely high K/D ratio is the best WW1 experience ever, imagine having only one life and trying to not get yourself killed. The game makes you feel like your in WW1. Sad now to see what has happened with Battlefield.
Great video Tom! Interesting story behind the chaotic release. Just a note: the transition sound effect is much louder than your voice, so it might be worth reducing the volume of that in future videos. There are also tonnes of interesting quotes on the screen here so it’d be great if you read them out to save me pausing every few secs (:
"Behind the scenes DICE is listening to community feedback". If that were true they would've acknowledged by now that the BF community does NOT want another fucking hero/br shooter. We want a BF game that is true to its origins. The franchise is dead as we know it. Everybody who loved the BF games in the past, will have to come to terms with this. I refunded the game and shorted the stock on the early access release day and will be buying a new gaming PC from that money. So thank you EA for staying shitty as always.
EA's stock price was fine on/after release day? They have so many revenue streams so investors are still happy. Congrats on the refund but I doubt shorting the stock would result in profits that large.
@@TheHare You can read a price chart right? November 12th 145$ December 1st 120$ I'd call that a pretty significant drop. Made me a couple thousand bucks. It dropped from an almost ATH to the lowest it's been in a year. But sure, the stock was/is fine. lol
Seeing the words "Bad Company 3 Scrapped" hurts my soul, God damn EA. You literally killed a series instead of continuing a genuine good singleplayer storyline with a memorable multiplayer, it really hurts me because bad company 1 was my first battlefield game.
Shoutout all the folks that supported Dice cutting out single player because "Battlefield never had good single player anyway so the devs can focus on making the multiplayer super good"
@@gunswinger3110 though it's true. The only truly memorable singleplayer experience from Battlefield was Bad Company series. The rest was more of a flashy scripted events showcase. And don't forget no BF game before Bad Company had an actual campaign - only singleplayer mode with bots on multiplayer maps.
Regarding EA’s official response…The fact that they keep mentioning the future of Battlefield and never actually just saying they want to restore the franchise to its glory of what players know and love is a HUGE RED FLAG 🚩. They are disillusioned and just absolutely DO NOT have their finger on the pulse of what battlefield is and should be. The developers that left knew this was the case, and if they couldn’t make their own cases to EA…then all is lost and they knew it and couldn’t do anything about it.
Kind of similar to purple-haired landwhales on Twitter constantly championing "progress' for the ENTIRETY OF SOCIETY and yet they've NEVER READ A SINGLE HISTORY BOOK. BF2042 IS #PROGRESS 😑
I think the word is "deluded" not disillusioned, because disillusioned means realizing something is not as good as they though/waking up to the illusion you were falling for. I do agree with you though, DICE has been gutted and stuffed with new Devs to control so EA can do what they do best: try and turn things into cash cows by following trends and then putting it out of its misery once it stops making money, ending it in disgrace and disappointment.
@@punic4045 yes delusional was the word I was going for. I’ve been I huge fan of Dice and Battlefield since Modern Combat 2 on console. I haven’t even touched this game this holiday season. Mostly because of bugs and the maps being bad, not necessarily because of missing features. It’s all just a disappointment that’s added to having no interest in wanting to play.
When you said EA needs to innovate against the competition and not compete with it, you hit the mark spot on. I feel like it's an odd mix of other games, mostly games I hate, tied in with prior Battlefields that I absolutely love. Battlefield has been the leading game franchise in larger scale, more immersive, war. It feels like it's more on par with CoD now.
I am going to miss the games that brought me joy: BF3/BF4 and BF1. I always felt that the developers that made these games weren’t the ones that made BFV and 2042 and I was right. It went from authentic, immersive shooters to tacky shooters like Fortnite. It doesn’t help knowing that EA actually wanted the game to be like Fortnite.
It's sad, ironic, greedy and all sorts of things mixed into one. EA went for the money and what has been produced will earn them barely anything compared to what could have been. Had they just focussed on making the best Battlefield game you could ever own with the classic BF core mechanics, that would have been enough to secure its long term future as a classic game. All of the fans would have been overjoyed and that joy would have attracted newer players. The game would have been a huge success if it stuck to its roots. Once the game was settled as the "best" Battlefield game ever made, with a solid fanbase of players they could have then focussed on cosmetics, new maps, battle passes and ALL the things they believed would make them money. I'm not averse to skins, passes etc having bought a few on COD, but that's because the COD franchise sticks to its core and MW19 was an excellent game right from the Beta - that excellent foundation paved the way for a good future, and the game was so much fun I was happy to buy battle passes for me and my son, plus skins etc. I guess between me and my son we probably spent over £300 on MW19 but it was well worth it and I still play it now. EA have stolen my £68 for this game and that is ALL they will get for it. These companies are run by business graduates who have no idea how the game should be. Games like BF should be designed and built by BF fans and players and people that actually play the games. This whole situation has left a sour taste in my mouth for gaming and games companies, and going forward I will now be very careful on which games and which companies get my hard earned money. A game will need to prove itself from the off before I even think about buying it. EA has hurt the gaming industry with this one. We need developers and game studios that are passionate about games, and not how many million $ they can make each month. It amazes me that a company making so much money like EA, couldn't be bothered to kit out their developers home setup with a proper PC and full array of testing consoles. EA should be sued over this game, from players and employees.
Dude, your Defqon pfp combined with your insightful comment about a franchise i truly love makes me so proud of you. Have you ever been to the festival?
Absolutely agree with all of this, EA could’ve sent this game out the park if they had just out more effort into the game and just listened to the fan base. It’s a shame that it’s like this, let’s hope they make some changes to the base game at least.
This should make me angry but it doesn't. It just makes me sad. When BFV's troubles were front and center I already got wind of how much troubles DICE was going through but I was secretly hoping that 2042 would have at least more time to figure out how to do things better. This video just reinforces the fact that even more time won't really do much because the same bad calls that made BFV the way it is, are the same ones that plagued the development of 2042. And the saddest thing of all? No amount of time will bring back the original developers that had so many years under their belts. Even if the entire management wanted to make things happen, the experience of knowing how to use frostbite to get what we want simply wont be there for many years to come.
@@carrast lack of team balancing and cheat prevention killed it faster than anything else. Nobody wants to fight a team of level 200+ when you're with new players on your side.
@@pulangpandong Agreed, thats what made me stop playing. But damn the gunplay was very good. And soldiers animations were top notch compared to BF2042. Really sad a multi billion company won't protect its player base against cheaters.
Was thinking exactly this, it's sad to see EA not only not learning, but literally killing the franchise that made them in the early 2010s... :/ Time to move to World War III.
We all remember Westwood studios, and now they've managed to kill off DICE as well. It exists now in name only., EA destroys everything it touches. It buys all these great studios with great talented people, and then their toxic management drives all the talent away, and they're left with essentially nothing. What a shame! Glad I was able to refund this game.
DrDisrepect formed a company to develop an online multiplayer fps game. Hopefully they come up with something good because at the top is Doc who is a gamer
@@yashkaliapiano Dr.Disrespect is a goon. The man has horrible hot takes. He said Halo won't last 3 months without a BR. Keep your expectations low because I doubt it will be any better than a Chinese CoD mobile rip-off.
They really wanted it out before the end of year surge of purchases for Black Friday/ Christmas. The execs have to show the numbers on their quarterly reports!
@@bugbuster8598 Yea the handful of people who send death threats really forced CDPR to release the game when they weren’t ready. People who actually think a small group of man babies who send death threats are forcing these multi million or billion companies to release unfinished products are brain dead morons.
Went back to Bf4 and Bf1 just a few days after it launched. That game is nothing but an insult to Battlefield fans and the exact opposite of a love letter
I only bought 2042 because I thought it was going to be a more slightly futuristic BF4, and they leaned in that direction in early development by bringing back recognizable characters such as Pac and Irish. I've never been more disappointed (other than BFV) with a Battlefield game, and I hope they listen to us and give us the experience we all enjoyed before, and want now. Side note: The specialists are terrible, and don't fit the Battlefield atmosphere of regular soldiers in a massive war. BF3 nailed that style on the head, and that's all I'd play if they remastered it, that's how good it is.
Seeing this video I can not appreciate enough each and every developer who is still working at DICE and the partnered studios. I really don’t wanna imagine how hard it must be to work under such circumstances and conditions. 💜 I loved playing BF4 and BF1 and I so hope that we’ll get a great game with 2042 in the near future.
The real issue, honestly, is money. EA got too greedy, wanted DICE to do something they weren't really specialized in doing, and then changed their mind about it after they acquired Respawn+Apex. The entire idea of having a lease system for consoles for the devs is also insane - EA has literal billions of dollars at it's disposal; they could have easily bought 1 of each console, for each developer, on the team; instead, they chose not to. The high developer turn-around could also have been solved with money - specifically, paying the dev staff more. This is one of EA's flagship franchises, and they could have made a fortune if they just weren't so greedy during dev.
"cppuld of easily" welll not really lets be fair .. 1 of the smaller of the studios is 500+ devs and there was 3 studios ... so say its rougly $5000 for a Pc and 4 consols x that by 500 for the first studio is 2.5 million and thats just the hardware, then there is set up and the other larger studios... realisticly tehy would of ended up spending $20 million on just that. which would mean they would have to sell over 250,000 copies of the game just to make that back.
@@DaKaPlays Yeah it would cost quite a bit. But it's gonna cost them more because they released a terrible game. They've already lost 75% of their player base. Players that are now spending $20 for a skin on Halo and CoD. Long term health of the game brings long term financial success.
Even from a greed perspective it makes no fucking sense to emulate other AAA games. Battlefield is a massive franchise with millions of fans. All they had to do was to capitalize on that. Just release a well polished battlefield game for once. One that isn't bugged out of it's mind.
14:56 man, those concepts of standard soldiers and map evolution feel so legit and familiar with the franchise it almost made me cry, if only EA/DICE would've stick to that idea, nothing of this mess would be happening...
27:50 "EA/DICE leads need to push the developers to innovate against the competition". Terrible wording here. It's not the devs that need to be 'pushed' to innovate. It's obvious the leads themselves are completely out of touch. The executives at EA/DICE are clearly imposing battle royale / specialists and now even 'hero shooter' trends upon the devs. What the leads need to do is BACK OFF, stop rejecting ideas that do not fit in current market trends, and let the devs make what they want without micromanaging game mechanics like in-game monetization. Or DICE will end the same as Bioware.
Dude just....just give it up man, DICE already has gotten to that point. They are just too far gone at this point and it's an inevitably that they will get consumed by EA at this point. May the old studio rest in peace and the new one forever be marred by failure for how they have bastardized the franchise. They deserve everything they are getting for letting shit get this bad in the first place.
Just imagine…A campaign with the grit of the short film and concept art, a multiplayer with every “legacy feature” proper map design classes more weapons etc, and portal to go as wacky as we want
This is sad. I left COD, looking for a home. Everyone said, "Go to Battlefield. Better gameplay and mechanics. " I've watched videos, trailers, etc. I was excited, because I'm so tired of WWII themes, hackers, bugs, etc. So 2042 seemed perfect! But I should of known better when I seen that EA logo. EA, king of the Pump and Dump of franchises.
If you still wanna get into Battlefield, then check out Battlefield 4. It's the last BF game in a modern setting (besides 2042) and it's better than 2042 in almost every way, and for being a 2013 game it's still very much alive and kicking.
So tldr: EA completely slaughtered Battlefield and OG devs left because they were tired of EA's shit and now DICE is filled with amateurs that suck at decision making.
I believe EA/DICE is killing this franchise by turning it into another game like Fortnite. I hope the devs are aware that the majority of battlefield player base choose this game because of the game environment and the unique vibe that this franchise can only offer in nowadays shooter games.
@@Keviekev115 To be honest, the new warzone map looks amazing and it offers players to customize their own strategies at different locations or buildings to win the game.
Fortnite is way better… first off their game is free with free updates and free content constantly coming in. There game mechanics also work and are much more fun they BF vehicle simulator.
As someone who played the Technical Playtest, it was seriously mind-blowing how nothing changed from the Tech Test to the Full release of 2042. As a rundown, the playtests were about 2-3 hours long with two session a day on specified days. On the first session, of course people were hyped. It was a new Battlefield so people didn't care about how it would be but soon enough people started to see certain issues. The playtest was capped at 30FPS the ENTIRE time, and to add they told everyone that it was capped for the reasoning of "Were are looking for certain data, the performance will be tested during the Beta phase. The Tech Test will be performed to acquire data on server stability. With the new 128 Player-count, stability is much of concern". So everyone just ignored the very unrealistic frame cap for no reason at all, as the frames wouldn't interfere with data for server stability. But I ignored it and kept playing. As people kept playing, and people kept leaking gameplay on the strict ruling that EVERYTHING was under NDA, issues were starting to show. Main Menu selections weren't working properly or at all. Some settings like Future Frame Rendering was completely busted causing system instabilities OUTSIDE the game. At one point, I managed to find a way to shoot 2 rockets out of the Recoilless M5. Hitreg was just as busted as launch day, and even introducing pre-existing bugs from the Tech Test. As the first weekend of testing ended, we were all hoping for improvements and the justification on updates to fix these ongoing issues. As the second weekend started, I completely lost it with EA. All of the issues from the first weekend weren't even touched. Further more, as I did know it was for server data, the servers were the absolute worst. You would think to gather data you need as many people on as possible to get the most data possible. However, the servers were constantly crashing and games were completely just closing and sending people to the main menu 24/7 the entire weekend. As this marked the end of the Tech Test I knew that nothing would change with EA. We reported bugs about performance issues involving settings not working or tracking properly. Lone behold, for many users, the FFR setting still wasn't working in the Beta. To add, certain settings to do with sensitivity were also busted as the sliders weren't tracking the proper values. If you know one thing about EA, its to never EVER trust them to make a good quality product ever again
I don't think the game would have been better with more time. Sure some of the bugs/issues in the game might have been found and fixed but the design choices would not have been changed. We would just have a more polished turd if they had more time. I think it's fine that they chased the money but there was a way to do that and keep the Battlefield identity.
We will never have a Battlefield as solid as BF3 BF4 was still good fun in gameplay, but it was obvious that the map design was scale and spectacle first, level design second which is why we ended up with maps like Golmud and Silk Road. A philosophy that continued with 1 and was a little improved by 5, but now 2042 has the worst in the series, along with the changes to the core experience like swapping classes for the trendy hero characters. And then the cherry on top was EA's confirmation that the next game is gonna be just a straight up BR. Battlefield is finally dead.
Very interesting info about working from home and the effect it had on development. I've been curious about that for a while now. No coincidence that since covid, many major AAA titles either got delayed, or got released anyway in a poor state.
I should have realized that a company that buys the cheapest servers would do nothing to let the developers actually work from home. I guess they didn't want to provide high end computers to do the work they need to do. Nor did they want to delay the game and lose money from people dissatisfied with CoD.
Basically stupidity, we don't want battlefield to play like pubg or warzone, we want battlefield, but apparently they totally misses that simple point.
@@mikedoe525 never has a consumer base told a company how to print money and the company go "nope we gonna do the exact opposite" then call you uneducated for not buying it!
Because upper management is generally always out of touch with reality. They don't actually make the products they sell or even *have* to know much about them. All they do is sit at desks, have conference calls, and pretend that their spreadsheet skills qualify them to think they understand how video games work. They're ignorant bean-counters who can't be fired for their stupidity because they're all on the same team.
This was extremely helpful, and now I know why 2042 turned out the way it has. Just wish the original devs were there and had that freedom to be creative with 2042. Imagine the game we'd have if so.
"UI has always been understaffed and underscoped" as a UI designer, this is the norm for nearly any and all games AAA and indie. This whole ordeal is incredibly disheartening as the Battlefield franchise has always been a huge, driving source of inspiration and passion for my career. To see it absolutely slaughtered like this reminds me why I avoid AAA studios. Once a game becomes so successful the execs, management, and shareholders can't stand to risk the "success" (read: "their profits") on the "whims of passion and creativity" even if it's success was owed to passion and creativity to begin with. So every possible corner is cut and every path taken is limited to those paved by successful trends proven by others. And, to be safe, they try to maximize potential profit by making the game little more than a platform for micro-transactions. RIP Battlefield. RIP DICE. I truly mourn both.
If you have a passion for ui I encourage you to take a look at The Last of Us Part 2. It has the most prestine, functional, elegant and readable ui I've seen in years. Polished to perfection. Naughty dog has some unbelievable talent in their studio
I am also working for a software development company and so I know this issue. As long as the code works we can just explain the users 100 times how to use it correctly and not invest more into UX/UI The issue here is, I FEEL LIKE, that it does not feel like it isnt polished or not good enoug but it is flat out embarrassing. Like UX/UI always should focus on making things simple and time efficient and in battlefield is there one thing u dont need to click at least twice to get what u want? I am so confused how this happened this is honestly crazy to me
I'll just never understand what made them think that a hero shooter - or a specialist system - would be better than the established class system. Bugs and performance issues aside - nothing new for Battlefield, they'll get fixed - it's a shame that the game gets pushed in a direction where it does not belong. No one asked for this. Battle Royales and hero shooter are popular among many people, won't debate that, but the same people that love Rainbow Six Siege or Call of Duty for their operators may also like the fact that Battlefield never worked this way. What was wrong with Assault, Engineer, Medic, Recon? Where's the issue with giving them decent (!!!) skins that fit into the atmosphere? But even if everything debatable would be cast aside, from bugs, performance, graphics, map design, specialists, et cetera: the fact that they made THIS abomination after failing so absolutely with BFV is astonishing. Aren't there community managers at dice? Does someone at Dice watch or read or listen to any content related to their product? Are they deaf and blind? The community is still actively playing the old titles, even BC2. Reddit, TH-cam, Twitter, Facebook, everything overheated after BFV with several types of criticism - constructive as well as toxic, but anyway, the voices were loud and clear! The communities vision of a future Battlefield was always broadly visible: a game like Battlefield BC2, 3, 4, 1, if Dice had just taken the road down in a straight direction from where they came, we wouldn't be talking now, we would play. It's so saddening to see a franchise like this going down, because, well, let's be honest: BFV has nearly no bugs now. Runs just fine. But it's design is so awful, that it might as well be dead. The same will happen to 2042. You can fix the bugs, you wont fix 20x Maria Falck - 10 on the one side, 10 on the other, the ones speaking english, the other russian. But none of the players behind them will know who's better - no scoreboard. None of them chose actively to be on that server - no server browser. Sigh.
The problem was that classes don't sell microtransactions as good as individual "heroes". That's the one and only reason. If specialists would have been the only change and everything else would have worked like intended, most people would have lived with that change and EA would have increased sales in microtransactions. They wouldn't even notice some hardcore fans "not buying because of specialists" compared to the profits from the additional microtransactions. The problem is, that they are going where the money is and not where the fans want the product to be - except that is where the money is. But sadly for all fans of BF the money lies within casual hero-battleroyal-shooters where you can milk the playerbase for years to come and not within selling a quality product once.
If you remember battlefield 4 was same unfinish and disappointment but after updates become the best battlefield game this gonna happen with battlefield 2042 wait till the last update
minor thing, but the phase after pre-production is not called "post-production". that is a term from the film industry. in the game industry its just called production. usually it goes like this: pre-production > vertical slice/mvp > production > alpha > beta > release > post-release/life-service with established franchises usually they will skip the vertical slice, but depends on the studio
2042's Multiplayer feels like it's a limited time mode in a BR game, like it's a game that came out as a BR and is giving you the chance to play some other modes.
It WAS originally developed as a BR... that's why for example, there was no scoreboard but it _did_ give you a *squad* placement at games end - an obvious leftover from the BR concept. Thats why it has 128 players and such huge maps. That's why the game is unfinished and why Portal was added as half-baked filler using old maps to make up for the lack of original content. It's as plain as the nose on your face lol
@@Enes-wj5xq Uh no. Battlefield 2042 originally was going to be a BR game, it was only until the last minute EA was freaking out of it being a failure so they decided to change it & add multiplayer back into the game, which you clearly see that this shit is a hot mess, multiplayer is not even the foundation anymore its BR while everything else is built around that or its a after thought.
It was EA, it was always EA! Can't blame the dice devs. A multi billion dollar company can't even provide its biggest studio enough resources and time to complete a game.
when you stay with a company as long as they are your part of the blame, It's just like if you were part of a robbery but didn't do it you'll still be arrested for being Accomplice mainly Dice is still Guilty
Sadly its time to let go, I cant see how the next Battlefield would be any different or good for that matter. the OG devs left and took hope with them. its time we put the franchise to rest and thank the devs for the previous games.
Agreed BF1/V was the mark of the end it wasn't bad but the change was there. Lack of a Hardcore mode ruined it for me and before anyone says that 2042 had a HC mode they don't. It's not a dedicated HC mode like BF3/4 where it was fun to play.
What does us knowing what happen going to do? already spent 50 bucks for an unfinished game. If you want to rip a company dont hide behind calling it just being "informative". Rip them, they deserve it. They def took 100% of my money for maybe 30% of the game
I was gonna buy it since it's on sale but I don't wanna support this bullshit. Fuck the marketing department and DICE. I'm gonna give enlisted and insurgency a try
Got the game on sale and couldn't stop laughing at how there is actually a bug in a FPS which refrains you from aiming down sights. No idea how that got past any testers as it's happened 4 times in a single game session.
The end of the video where he says EA CANNED BAD COMPANY 3 BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WOULDNT SELL!!!!!!! How out of touch disillusioned are they from their own fanbase. Bad Company 2 sold massively and really got Battlefield in the mainstream especially on console, like come on seriously
I just can't get over the fact that Motive seems to have a better understanding of the Frostbite engine than even DICE does. Both Squadrons and Dead Space launched with hardly any of the kinds of bugs and visual jank that 2042 did, despite both running on Frostbite (Dead Space in particular being built on this latest iteration of Frostbite that powers 2042).
In a way it is the consumers fault, they analyze & see how many of you mindlessly blow money on call of duty warzone & they see that, so now EA wants it too & willingly to destroy they're franchise/core audience who actually care about the franchise just to follow a fucking trend that wasn't even popular until a few years ago. This battle royale craze shit seriously needs to stop, all our multiplayer games are becoming empty shells of themselves or just being ruined. Take a good long look at call of duty, take out warzone & look at the current sorry state the multiplayer/zombies is
@@Padlock_Steve what in the hell do you mean? Have you seen the release of the new island for Warzone? It has the exact same problems season 2 has and that's awful render distance, muted colors, and bad balance. Sorry but I never knew being a fanboy meant complaining about a franchise I used to like.
EA basically had "noobs" (experienced/skilled, but unfamiliar with DICE tools) try and upgrade frostbite. They break it and we lose legacy features. EA literally broke frostbite lol. Battlefield officially toast. We can put a fork in it... Sad.
Props to Tom and Crashgames. Eye opening and fairly sad...but, clarity should have been EA and DICE's prioty this time around. Shame it has come to this.
I’m honestly in denial. Battlefield was the definitive multiplayer game for me, I am sad at the prospect that it may never go back to being as good or fun as BF3/4/1 were. What is it with these multibillion dollar corporations and just screwing up their properties? They did the same to Star Wars. EA held that license exclusivity for years and all they had to show for it was two average Battlefront games and a decent single player game with Respawn.
The way I see it, game dev companies have a sweet spot. 1. Too small, the companies are underfunded and lack enough manpower to make a AAA title. However, they have all the creative freedom they want, because they are essentially running their own company. Basically most indie devs. I think this is why we see so many innovative and good indie games, 2. Medium size companies are the sweet spot, where they have enough manpower to make games very close to AAA in quality and also still have a degree of creative freedom, with maybe some interference from the publisher. 3. Finally we have the large game studios which have the money and manpower to make AAA titles every few years, but this comes with the total loss of freedom, because once you are throwing that kinda money around you have to answer to investors, execs, shareholders etc. This causes issues like we are seeing here. Non gamers making choices for $ over gaming experience.
I agree with you but Star Wars battlefront 2 is one of the best shooters ever created. All hate it because of the micro transactions controversy. Actual gameplay and Cosmetic micro transactions are very different things.
I am not a hero I am merely a soldier. My life is expendable and temporary. I will come back over and over again to fight the never ending war but it seems war for once has changed. My new war is one against greed where my inaction weighs far more than any action. Their greed will not put its hands in my pockets. My fellow soldiers, will you fight? In this war against greed, brothers in arms, would you walk the fields of battle with me one last time?
thank you for this in depth look. I tried for months to buy a new PS5 thinking Battlefield was going to be such an amazing game. The look of this game alone has that PS5 still sitting in the box and me looking for a new game to take its place. These giant empty ugly maps with no detail, no destruction, not even any cover, already had me so disappointed that the glitches of the game are something I will never even see first hand. These ugly, empty, unimaginative maps ruined it for me.
If this Battlefield Hero shooter is really to appear, I hope that it fails mercilessly, I Play bf since BC1 on my PS3 and when I hear these plans for the future, I only get sick.
@@1_visje34 Hahaha the thing is the EA idiots blame it on the bugs and not the core problem that this game has no soul and the specialists were a stupid idea
The problem i have with Embark Studios is that Patrick _'dont like it, dont buy it'_ Soderlund is one of the founders. Im sure he was very complicit in the downfall of Battlefield. EA dont seem to get that If i wanted to play a hero shooter *then id go and play a hero shooter* or pretty much any other genre that im interested. What theyve done here is basically hijack the battlefield franchise and repurposing it for something else just like disney do when they gender bend or race bend their characters. Apparently its so hard to make a game that they have to hijack another franchise and their community rather than build a new game/franchise from the ground up with its own community that will grow naturally. They have pretty much destroyed the franchise just so they could have an easier time copy and pasting code from apex legends all over it. Im going to reinstall BF2 and get it going with BF2hub instead.
I would have waited literally FIVE more years for a modern BF3/4 with just more of those features. Such a disaster of a game. So disappointing WW3 on PC (in closed Beta) is currently more promising and more BF than anything DICE will make if they continue this route. Highly recommend supporting that developer instead. More on board means the sooner they port it to console
For all those in the comments: I think it's important to remember that individual developers shouldn't be blamed for following what higher ups told them. The quotes in this video show that they were overworked and upset and they deserve our empathy. Continue to aim your criticism - restrained, level-headed criticism - at the execs who overworked their staff and disregarded their fans. Great video.
@@Sneedmire really? Trying to find work in a pandemic when they already have a high paying job? Working countless hours to avoid the prospect of losing that job? You even said it yourself. They signed a contract. I don’t think it’s as simple as “no”
Called it after BF5, the next title was make or break for DICE. I meant it but didn’t actually think they would fuck it up this bad. I feel like a fool for thinking they learned lessons from BF5 and we’re going to go all out on the next BF title(2042). They straight up lied to fans of the franchise the whole way through, it’s a fucking disgrace! BF is well and truly dead I think.
I think we all thought that they really learned something after the BF5 failure. And after closing the developement early for that title, they would really have something great for the new title.
Some of the Frostbite issues are apparent. I'm a soft engineer and I immediately recognized BF5 and BF2042 have a missing set of shader files or some switched parameters on the PC version which makes the game look worse, they need to fix it. There are also memory leaks. Look at console gameplay and compare it to PC, the lighting is night and day. (just to be clear this is my assumption, I don't work with Frostbite or DICE but there is a clear issue.)
@@blaeck9063 Tons of technical backdrop is different. As for as to why this issue, I have no idea since BF5's SP doesn't have this issue. Probably something missing in the MP loading.
It's funny that you said that because I've been busy factory reseting my pc twice this past weekend because I got a huuuuuge memory leak caused by Battlefield worst coding game ever
while I personally enjoy the game, it makes me incredibly sad to know that the game could be so much better if EA just let DICE do their thing instead of pulling on the leash to steer them in the direction they wanted the franchise to go in.
Just replace dice with literally any other company that EA owns "The game could be so much better if (Dice,Visceral games,Bioware,Pandemic studio,Origin Systems, Bullfrog games, blackbox games, mythic entertainment, maxis software, playfish, salt lake studios, nuFX games,westwood studios,Dreamworks interactive) do their thing instead of pulling on the leash to steer them in the direction they wanted the franchise to go."
@@cyanide7389 Apparently though EA is next on the major acquisition block for MANY big companies Disney, Amazon, Walmart, Apple and don't forget SONY are all looking to buy out the company
@@Skellington77 ya know, some may see this as an unpopular opinion, but I really hope they DONT get acquired- especially by Sony. EA's a shitty company that needs a major restructuring, but a buy out isn't the way to do it. It'll only make things a bigger pain in the ass in the long run.
If people keep pretending to enjoy literal shit on a plate they just got served solely because they paid a lot of money for it, then companies will keep making incomplete games like this
Ditch the specialist from the Core game. Bring back the class system. Double to amount of weapons. Remove the gimmick gadgets. Remove the tornadoes. Increase destruction. Core Battlefield is what people want. If people want BR make it a stand alone game.
Yeah it seems they wait til the game gets hyped to show the downside that being specialist with cringe lines and a shit ton of bugs and broken guns and it seems that even Portal won't be able to save this disappointment of a BF game.
when you stay with a company as long as they are your part of the blame, It's just like if you were part of a robbery but didn't do it you'll still be arrested for being Accomplice mainly Dice is still Guilty
@@doyourememberme2904 How is DICE still to blame? They’re owned by EA and EA calls the shots. When EA says jump all DICE can do is say “how high?”. They’re not allowed to say no to their publisher.
EA at it again killing franchises because of their greedy vision. Dead space is dead, Visceral is dissolved, now Battlefield is sinking too, and DICE is an empty shell of its former self.
Well. There's no future. At least not for upcoming years. After BFV, I stopped believing. After BF1, I had suspicions, as in the case of other shooters that EA (Battlefront) released. For the first time in my 30 years gaming experience, I am convinced that internet websites should position the names of the authors of BF2042 under not too positive slogans. To get rid of them in gaming market, at all. Forever. So no one will hire them again. The problem with creating Battlefield series is that the people who get paid for the work don't take any responsibility in the gaming industry at the same time. The girl that made the UI and interface for the game gave herself an award, and she called the feedback vulgar and useless. Nobody will ever know that she has made this interface so badly until the mass of internet portals start writing about her, directly, as a complete failure. This is the problem - we are stigmatizing the game, not the authors by their names, for their work. This will simply lead in a year, two, five, to more games will be created by these people and they will create another disaster. We need to start slowly deleting specific authors, not companies or devs studios. Thanks to this, maybe subsequent studies will not employ them again or anymore, and noticing that someone is working on a game will immediately raise suspicions. Finally, it is worth noting that we hardly ever appreciate specific game authors (like level designers) for their ideas and hardly ever stigmatize them for it.
@@robertoleon5084 Battlefield showed the first clear signs of the cognitive shift in the game design. - Every bullet became a tracer, and obnoxiously bright at that. - All vehicles were given full 3p reticles. No longer relegating all combat to 1p. While all previous BF games allowed a 3p vehicle camera only tanks had a "crosshair" of sorts but it wasn't great for aiming and mainly served to help orient the player since the turret moved separate from the movement. (In 2042, now, vehicles even DEFAULT in 3p view) - Vaulting was expanded to include climbing but with ridiculous speeds which has forever screwed up the overall traversal speed in the game. - Hardcore mode was tossed aside with a half-hearted implementation and being shoved into "custom games" effectively killing it - Vehicles got the ability to self-repair which had a pretty detrimental effect on the engineer/repair gameplay loop These were things that wouldn't have made it in-game based on the paradigms that the OG developers (who largely left between BF4 and BF1) used to guide, limit, and define their game design. This shift got exponentially worse from BF1-BFV and again from BFV-2042. These were early symptoms of the "loss of identity" the franchise is experiencing now. They represent the loss of vision and philosophy that gave the franchise it's "flavor".
@@deadpxl I wasn't conscious of the vehicle reticle changes until reading your comment. Its a great example to raise, and really represents the overall change in intent.
@@deadpxl I can actually agree with what ur pointing out but bf1 is such a good game that I can’t put it into a list of bad decisions from DICE. More like every change they made was really good and ended up being accepted by the community. I dont think bf1 was the first game to start lossing the essence of battlefield, but I do think it was a boost for the studio to actually make changes that is killing the saga. Also I think that adding the full antivehicle class and relagating the repair job to support was a great idea. Mayorly because support wasn’t used as much as the other classes.
If this game still makes decent money, or even more money than they would have expected from a 'real bf' instead of this BR-something, then in the eyes of an exec/suit this was the right decision.
Love how the whole game is just an EA response to whatever was popular at the time and created this awful Frankenstein that looks nothing like a battlefield game.
I hate the fact that they constantly tried to emulate other successful games without realizing we were all there for Battlefield, because we never wanted to play other games.. we want to play Battlefield!
it's kinda hilarious that they gave up their monopoly on being the go to all out warfare shooter to become another fortnite shitshow
Bad management always misses this. “We need to make a game for Fortnite, Hunt Showdown, and Call of Duty players.”
“Why won’t those players just play Fortnite, Hunt Showdown, or Call of Duty? Can’t we make a game for Battlefield players with a free element to get others to check it out?”
@@davidnorton5333 Cuz they are not driven to make awesome game for fans and others ..they are just driven by greed and nothing else...and that's what we all get for this Christmas...a bag full of crap and some...get your wallets out cuz' you all gonna need them a lot and often.Me...going back to all good BF 4...nothing wrong with that one.
They could have both if Firestorm was successful
@@gurjindersingh3843
You know what? For me Firestorm was amazing and by far the best Battle Royale experience still out there. (>>Experience not in general, it was buggy and needed some more love from dice)
I still think they should have released for free as standalone.
Dice do you want to sell skin and heroes? Then why the f you abandoned a great project such Firestorm where.. you know, skins and heroes make some sense at least, even for a Battlefield game.
But no they decided that putting some heroes in a 128pvp players was a perfectly fine idea 🥴🥴🥴
I've completely lost track of what they want from Battlefield since a lot ago...
At this point I think they don't have a clue of what a good battlefield should been...
All this make me so sad, it's depressing
The concept art of the standard class soldiers look absolutely amazing. What a shame to see them replaced by specialists that nobody cares about.
Without paid dlc maps they have to figure out monetization so i think specialists with unique gadgets is the best option they have to make money through selling skins like apex/warzone
@@febzkk id rather go back to paid dlc maps to be honest rather than a battlepass. By this stage of bf4s lifespan we already had china rising dlc, 2 months after release.,
@@febzkk or.... ACTUAL SOLDIER CUSTOMISATION
something along the lines of what Halo Infinite offers.
@@delgrady10 But would you honestly pay for DLCs for the current game? DLCs mean nothing if rest of the game sucks. The game would die even quicker with paid DLCs. The problem isn't live service but how EA keeps failing to deliver them.
@@febzkk I think the different customization for the standard soldier would have been fine. Maybe if they did something like what World War 3 is doing, I’d maybe even get some cosmetics, but it all comes down to how good the game is at that current state. EA has bad timing and shouldn’t be worrying about cosmetics right now.
This is what happens when managers make the games and not the developers.
Well said
Nah. DICE is just as guilty. They don't care either.
@@KAPAFlyer dice has never been the problem, except maybe bfv, but their vision was great for that game, too. dice now is a shell of what it used to be and that simply comes down to managerial problems. why would any long-time devs stick at dice when they can't develop the games they want to?
Summarizes about 80% of all gaming companies today
I cant believe ea put their developers through this and still forced a release. It would of never been a battlefield game but right now 2042 is embarassing
Utterly mind boggling how the suits told DICE to "chase trends" when the core, classic Battlefield experience is what people want. No other game plays like Battlefield, that's what made it so successful!
It's what happens when you have a bunch of rich suits that know nothing about the product they're trying to sell
@@aricalifornia6272 1x,1
Its also why you play battlefield, I played battlefield for its large scale action, vehicles, feel, and individuality but they made it like every other game and ruined the title, no other game could you get into a viper and have a battle with a foot soldier or blow up a tank with a repair tool. Almost all games before battlefield 5 where so enjoyable and I would drop 100s of hours for weeks on end not playing anything else but 2042 ive opened 3 times.
@@aricalifornia6272 more like, it's what happened when management doesn't know how to communicate that to the suits.
@@dudedud238 Communication rarely goes both ways at these mega, multi-billion dollar corporations. Usually you do what the suits want or you're out.
I love how EA forces most of their studios to use the Frostbite engine, notoriously known as one of the most difficult engines to design games with; while simultaneously treating the only people on the planet with any deep level of understanding of the Frostbite engine like shit, and essentially chasing them away is such a galaxy brain move. I wish I had the IQ of your average EA executive.
EA deserves to be called out for it.
As much as I love salt, Frostbite was created by DICE specifically for Battlefield games.
The ONE THING it does extremely well is battlefield. It does environmental destruction and FPS games pretty well. Though losing a majority if not all of the people who helped make the engine has to hurt
I think dice should rip out the rendering engine behind frostbite and license that, while remaking the entity system and tools to be more game-agnostic.
You don't understand, big game companies are not owned by people who give a shit about the game, or any game, or ever even touvching or LOOKING at a game dude, they just want money. This is why AAA gaming is dead and why I am sick of the same shit every fucking AAA game. STOP PREORDERING FUCKING GAMES
I'm so worried about Dead Space Remake because of that engine.
Sooo EA is quite literally suffocating this franchise to death. Neat.
Well they have form in killing companies and franchises
insert *first time* meme, I hope there will be a new team under a new publisher developing alternatives soon
Did we watch the same video? This seems to be a lot of DICE's own making. They couldn't retain talent.
Imagine my shock...
@@MechNominal they couldnt retain talent because EA wanted shitty features that dont fit the franchise to be in, making developers leave in the long process who wanted to innovate the franchise. pretty clear & simple
In conclusion if you are expecting Battlefield to return or feel like any of the old games like BF4 or older you are in for disappointment. The studio isn’t the same anymore and the ideas are different. And with the latest changes it basically confirms that.
You are naive if you expected new Battlefield to "feel" like anything before BF1. People that made BF3 were leaving even before BF4 launch and most left before BF1. Dice has staff rotation after every release.
People that worked on 2042 clearly cared enough to make it a Battlefield game. They struggled with Frostbite, EA and Covid, but somehow managed to deliver a game with core design of a BF series.
I hope Zampella has enough balls to prevent EA from ruining 2042 and series as a whole
Well, we were expecting smart and logically decisions, instead we went with "Not scoreboard" decision for a shooter game.
@@thebigsam "Managed to deliver a game with core desing of BF game"
Are you high?
@@CrIiiIsis no, I am not
First Person Shooter - ✅
Multiplayer - ✅
Combined arms - ✅
Sandbox - ✅
@@thebigsam Bruh no shit it’s suppose to have that lmao every FPS is suppose to that’s the core of the game besides that the game is ass and broken and don’t feel like battlefield
This has to be one of the biggest disappointments I've experienced in gaming. I've always loved BF ever since 1942 and it's so depressing to see it become a shell of it's former self.
I regret pre-ordering the gold edition, people made the same mistake with BFV I should have listened to that. This game will probably be supported for a year and then abandoned like with BFV.
It all comes down to us gamers. We have to come together and not buy these games. We have to say make what we want if not sorry no money for you. But that’s easier said because people will buy and they will make Some money. But I will for myself say I won’t buy another battlefield game. So many games are broken now. Cod, vanguard, halo, battlefield. They all have issues. Sad to see how corporate greed can ruin something so joyful and entertaining. EA needs to refund to anyone who bought the game at any period of time
Its disgusting mate. And sad.
What’s sadder is people are still defending this train wreck citing the shitty launches of every other title when the core gameplay of this title has been the worst and battlefield 5 didn’t even feel like a real WW2 game
I do like this game, however it really should have been delayed and been reworked. This game wasn't ready to launch
TLDW: The game was created in about a year. The majority of DICE Senior Developers have left. Nobody currently employed at DICE has relevant Frost Bite experience to develop a AAA title. DICE is dead as a studio and cannot be trusted going forward to not only fix BF2042, but also with any major future title.
I am still furious they pulled the plug on BFV before they made an Eastern Front expansion.
And games like BF V and espacially Battlefront 2 had somewhat redeemed themselves due to effort the devs put into them, just so they had to leave these games and help develop a game that would have just needed more time.
Looks like titanfall/apex should replace battlefield
@@damianwozniak3946
There was no problem with BF5 though.
Besides the playerbase throwing a tantrum about it.
I agree dice is over
So aside from the "working from home" complications and an out of date engine, a lot of 2042's problems can be summed up with the higher ups asking "Well, what is Activision doing?"
Good to know they'd rather chase trends instead of going with what's tried and true.
Doesn’t help that their director is an ex Activision exec
Bruh why is working from home in quotations? Do you understand how quotation marks work?
You missed the most important part, which is most of their most experienced devs left after BFV
They don't care about the old fans, they want to capture the new ones because kids (18 and under) typically spend much more on cosmetics than the average adult.
Yall should hear how these developers think about the " fans" when it's just them talking, most absolutely despise the battlefield community.
@Not Real hahaha then he’s braindead.
what everyone should learn from this video.
it's not always the best idea to follow the crowd.
EA used to take new ideas and risks and we got awesome games. But since the Xbox one/ps4 gen, they have gotten complacent and lazy.
Exactly! Back in the Bad Company 2 days (my first battlefield) people checked the game out because it was DIFFERENT. It offered a new experience from Cod with its team play, vehicles, and destruction. Everything that annoyed me about cod was solved by this game so I switched.
As a result BF3 became a hype release further innovating on that existing formula and battlefield became a household name. Not because they did what everyone else did, but because they offered an experience you couldn't get anywhere else.
@@goingindieEN agreed
Dont preorder ever again. (Myself included)
Guck ea
well they sold a lot so...
The removal of classes is the number one thing that bugs me so much. Its a core part of the balance, identity of the franchise and they removed it. So frustrating
I agree, even though as a Tanker, it pissed me off always treading into a dozen or so Assaults wielding rockets. But now you can't tell who the fuck is who. Is that a squirrel? An old lady? Or some walking Adamantine Shield surviving fucking nukes going off on it? Best part? EVERYONE has rockets. I have never feared being a tanker. Ever in Battlefield. No amount of strategy or sticking with your team/really good squad will ever be enough to be effective with vehicles. The whole game is literally: Hope the fuck you don't die- oh wait, you will if you don't adopt (spawn) camping or glitches to get the upper hand. And don't get me started on the ugly colors they used on everything...
@@MLPIceberg In bf4 and bf1 a good tank crew could absolutely wreck but they had to actually work together and be aware of anti-tank classes. Now you just assume every specialist is gonna be on your ass from every angle and freaking hovercrafts pre-patch were stronger then tanks
Spot on. They're what makes BF feel like Battlefield!
Do you think its better now? I think the main problem is the specialist it just changed the concept of pvp battles and idea of roles.
It's truly heartbreaking that Battlefield will no longer be. It's a shadow of it's former self just like dice are
Maybe ex-Dice devs will come back and battlefield will have a comeback like COD MW 2019 or Ripple Effects (formerly known as DICE LA) will be developing battlefield games. Maybe I'm too optimistic lol.
Hopefully Battlefield will be an example on how not to do things
Dice=Bioware. Both just bad disappointing devs.
@@fluffyRabbit01 you are definitely too optimistic did you not play BFV they abandoned that game and if this game doesn't get the player count back soon then this will also be abandoned. I will definitely not be pre-ordering the next battlefield. This game will probably be dead when the next modern warfare comes out next year.
@@NoMansLand98 I think you got me wrong but I am still too optimistic. I wasn't saying bf2042 would have a comeback cuz I just don't see it happening. This game is conceptually flawed. I was thinking that one battlefield game might come out in the future that might be developed by previous dice employees and it'll be fun again.
The initial trailer is even more interesting in hindsight. Referencing memes and actual player behavior got the world thinking the team had their finger on the pulse and knew what the fans wanted; a team based strategy-shooter with enough player freedom to make some wacky and memorable moments. Turns out only the people that made the trailer had that mindset, and the rest of the studio and EA got amnesia and thought they were making teamcalloverquakego.
No they purposefully did that to trick us into buying call of duty.
@@skylermcbride9428 Yeah. I agree. It plays so much like Call of Duty. Kinda why I played Battlefield instead of CoD... but now I guess I won't be touching FPS games ever again. No way in hell the damn Publisher giants will bring back the glory that was once great FPS games.
Really? Referencing memes and player behavior is the exact opposite of having "your finger on the pulse" and quite literally illustrated that they have no clue what people like in a battlefield game.
Call of Apexmon
RIP Battlefield. We had a great time over the 19 years that you have been my core franchise. Lots of great memories to cherish. You were once special, Different. Quirky at times, yes. But so enjoyable. Having a squad of mates working together as a team to get that W was the most rewarding feeling.
I will now move on, I will not look back, as I don't want to dishonor my memories of the good times we had.
Love you, Mean it!
Respect
cringe
😢
@Luis Martinez ........ Literally comparing apples to pomegranates...
I wasn’t planning on cringing this hard today but it looks like you got me covered.
this perfectly shows how important it is for IT companies to keep their employees happy, especially when it comes to internal long term projects.....
I believe they usually do, but the AAA game industry is a different beast, can't market faulty non functioning software in the IT world and expect to survive, but you can release a half finished video game and profit unfortunately.
@@Blackreaper95 Agree. The game industry is the only one that can release software with half of the requirements, full of bugs, charge a full price, and people still pay for it. We as customers need to change!
@@ltacid You are on point.
@@ltacid I didn't pay for bfv or bf2042, did you?
@@ltacid i didn't buy it. Duce koat their way.
It's crazy how class soldier concept art looks cool af and the specialists we ended up with looks dumb as hell.
The specialists are so fucking disgusting holy shit, why the fuck did they choose the special(ed)ists over the chad-looking class soldiers?!
@ they sent in the "special" forces instead of the special forces
So most of DICE's developers left during Fawzi Mesmar's time as Design Director (BFV, Battlefront II, BF2042) and the main complaint was poor and inconsistent design choices leading to lack of time... I guess maybe putting the guy behind Candy Crush in charge of Battlefield was a bad decision?
No no, those things are *totally* comparable! That's a *totally* logical decision. /s
@@TheVillainInGlasses They should have called it Candycrushfield 2042. Perfect desciption of the game.
“ I’m gonna make you a billion dollar IP … which fruits does this Battlefields have? “ ~Fawzi Mesmar probably
The guy was put in charge to make sure they squeeze every penny possible from the fans, not to implement fun and unique game design.
And tbh he has done a really good job,, they spent barely anything developing the game, and have already made the money back on pre orders alone.
The game is a sales success.
MW2019’s operators were fine because they were cosmetic only and (mostly) fit the game. BFVs elites were fine(ish) because they were cosmetic only and (again, mostly) fit the game. V’s skin customization was good as well. It certainly could’ve used improvements but it was also cosmetic only. 2042s specialists are appalling at best because they are tied to core gameplay and uprooted a system that the playerbase enjoyed, and they don’t fit the theme at all.
Literally just have the classes with these specialist as skins. maybe give them custom gun skins tied to them.
@@blazin220 fuck no, thanks
BFV cosmetics were actually really cool and fit the theme IMO I turned around and loved the game
@@KrakkenXXX No they didn't fit at all, like completely not except for the last batch of skins which were top notch. Sadly the damage had already been done by releasing shit skins and operators that people apparently like, ruining the visuals for the rest who enjoy their games more true to the theme. I was ready to spend some money on the game, but why would I when other people drag me out of the theme by wearing shit?
Yes Battlefield V was better than 2042, but it was far from portraying WW2 in a authentic (but fun) way.
@@snaakie I remember pre ordering BFV and getting the bonus soldier cosmetics on launch (And my shitty red camo for one gun piece by piece over the course of months lol) I believe from memory they were actual uniforms like fallschirmjäger and stuff like that, I was actually pretty impressed. I thought they were going to go down the road of authentic uniforms for the factions, I was sorely disappointed when they just started introducing all this what if shite.
This is really no surprise. Exactly what happened to Visceral, they were amazing at making single player stories. Dead space 1 & 2 are still some of my favorite story driven horror games. Then dead space 3 came along and EA forced Visceral to include microtransactions and coop campaign. What horror game with multiplayer has been successful, very very few. Then after DS3 didn't exceed expectations, it did well but not EAs stupid high standards well, they forced Visceral to work on a Battlefield game. Well we all know how that went, a studio known for single player experiences forced to do multiplayer. BF Hardline also didn't do well. So EA closed Visceral, and along with it one of my favorite franchises. F*** EA, I'll never forgive them for what they did to visceral.
Breaks my heart that I will never be able to continue the feeling I had playing the earlier games with the new direction the development is taking.
sitting with my buddies in high-school playing the battlefield 3 beta, one of my best memories.
What a great time that was. Running through operation metro for the first time... Long neck bois glitching out lmao
That's exactly how I feel. I was HOPING 2042 would let me relive my high-school days of staying up late into the night playing bf4 with friends having to wake up early in the morning for school the next day. It's just sad to see.
Man, I remember the bf3 beta like it was yesterday. Battlefield 3 and 4 were my all time favorites, such amazing games! Then they lay this garbage on us! Hell no!!!
Operation Metro, I don’t think I played a beta that much EVER.
@@FIVESTRZ sware I knew every corner of that damn map lol
Amazing video and super insightful into why this game is a complete train wreck. It sounds like even if they do "fix" the game it will still be EA's live service vision and not what Battlefield fans want.
Emphasis on, not what Battlefield fans want.
Ea never listens to what we want.
Exactly this. Before you could always see how it could be fixed and at least appreciate what they are aiming for. With this the entire focus of the game is what's really wrong with it. That's obviously why so many key BF Dev veterans have jumped ship. They didn't believe in what they were making anymore. RIP Battlefield and it's hard to see it ever being as good again. They just want a military Apex Legends to compete with Warzone and Fortnite hence who they've now put in charge. EA just strangles everything they touch. 2042 is the worst excuse for a BF I'll ever play. Glad I bought the disc so I can try and sell it.
Not a a *complete* train wreck, they did some things right, but a lot of problems yes
"This will be a love letter to the Battlefield franchise", yea so that was a big fucking lie. I'm done with BF as a whole. Either Dice completely separates from EA, or they sink on the ship together. Not gonna stick around to find out.
Sad to see what is happening to my favorite franchise. Battlefield, It's time to say goodbye.
DICE, thank you for the hundreds of hours of entertainment in BF3 and BF4.
Hey, a fellow Milan fan! And a Battlefield player. You're a person of class, I see
@@ForgottenArmy1944 It seems that you and I both like things that are past their prime:)
In all seriousness, Milan has been doing well for almost 2 years now! And hopefully they pull it off tomorrow despite the injuries 🙌!
You forgot Ripple Effects
What are you thanking DICE for ? There is no one still working there who made your favorite games lol.
and for battlefield 1
It’s such a shame how this wonderful franchise turned out. I sunk uncountable hours into Battlefield One. It’s my second favorite multiplayer shooter of all time; only Halo 3 has fonder memories.
I’m so sick of hero shooters. It completely ruins the immersion. When I played Battlefield One, I felt like a terrified American soldier coming under artillery fire in a remnant of France’s old regime (Ballroom Blitz). I felt like a German conscript facing off against the British on the Somme.
Hero shooters destroy that immersion.
Battlefield 1 nailed the atmosphere more than any other game I know of, from visuals to music to sound design. Just the feeling of being a random WWI soldier, prone in a muddy trench, machine gun fire and explosions raining around you, hearing the screams of other soldiers near and gas slowly creeping by.
@@axess374 BF1 by far has the best atmosphere of any game.
@@axess374 A very close second is a game called hell let loose, it’s a realistic ww2 shooter that reminds me of BF1 somewhat, I really feel like an American shoulder storming on Normandy beach and etc. gunfire everywhere explosions and machine guns. Try it out, definitley my favorite new FPS.
@@axess374 I gotta say, being a tank hunter in BF1 while having an extremely high K/D ratio is the best WW1 experience ever, imagine having only one life and trying to not get yourself killed. The game makes you feel like your in WW1. Sad now to see what has happened with Battlefield.
i agree literally fuck hero shooters
Great video Tom! Interesting story behind the chaotic release.
Just a note: the transition sound effect is much louder than your voice, so it might be worth reducing the volume of that in future videos.
There are also tonnes of interesting quotes on the screen here so it’d be great if you read them out to save me pausing every few secs (:
"Behind the scenes DICE is listening to community feedback".
If that were true they would've acknowledged by now that the BF community does NOT want another fucking hero/br shooter.
We want a BF game that is true to its origins.
The franchise is dead as we know it. Everybody who loved the BF games in the past, will have to come to terms with this.
I refunded the game and shorted the stock on the early access release day and will be buying a new gaming PC from that money. So thank you EA for staying shitty as always.
You clearly have a close minded brain but understand what you mean🤣
EA's stock price was fine on/after release day? They have so many revenue streams so investors are still happy. Congrats on the refund but I doubt shorting the stock would result in profits that large.
@@TheHare You can read a price chart right?
November 12th 145$
December 1st 120$
I'd call that a pretty significant drop.
Made me a couple thousand bucks.
It dropped from an almost ATH to the lowest it's been in a year. But sure, the stock was/is fine. lol
What a Chad move.
Seeing the words "Bad Company 3 Scrapped" hurts my soul, God damn EA. You literally killed a series instead of continuing a genuine good singleplayer storyline with a memorable multiplayer, it really hurts me because bad company 1 was my first battlefield game.
It was my first battlefield game as well. Really sad.
Shoutout all the folks that supported Dice cutting out single player because "Battlefield never had good single player anyway so the devs can focus on making the multiplayer super good"
Fuck EA. Bastards
@@gunswinger3110 though it's true. The only truly memorable singleplayer experience from Battlefield was Bad Company series. The rest was more of a flashy scripted events showcase. And don't forget no BF game before Bad Company had an actual campaign - only singleplayer mode with bots on multiplayer maps.
Regarding EA’s official response…The fact that they keep mentioning the future of Battlefield and never actually just saying they want to restore the franchise to its glory of what players know and love is a HUGE RED FLAG 🚩. They are disillusioned and just absolutely DO NOT have their finger on the pulse of what battlefield is and should be. The developers that left knew this was the case, and if they couldn’t make their own cases to EA…then all is lost and they knew it and couldn’t do anything about it.
Kind of similar to purple-haired landwhales on Twitter constantly championing "progress' for the ENTIRETY OF SOCIETY and yet they've NEVER READ A SINGLE HISTORY BOOK.
BF2042 IS #PROGRESS 😑
@@vaporwave2345 How dare you, you **insert -ist here** !
I think the word is "deluded" not disillusioned, because disillusioned means realizing something is not as good as they though/waking up to the illusion you were falling for. I do agree with you though, DICE has been gutted and stuffed with new Devs to control so EA can do what they do best: try and turn things into cash cows by following trends and then putting it out of its misery once it stops making money, ending it in disgrace and disappointment.
@@punic4045 yes delusional was the word I was going for. I’ve been I huge fan of Dice and Battlefield since Modern Combat 2 on console. I haven’t even touched this game this holiday season. Mostly because of bugs and the maps being bad, not necessarily because of missing features. It’s all just a disappointment that’s added to having no interest in wanting to play.
@@vaporwave2345 apap
When you said EA needs to innovate against the competition and not compete with it, you hit the mark spot on. I feel like it's an odd mix of other games, mostly games I hate, tied in with prior Battlefields that I absolutely love. Battlefield has been the leading game franchise in larger scale, more immersive, war. It feels like it's more on par with CoD now.
I am going to miss the games that brought me joy: BF3/BF4 and BF1. I always felt that the developers that made these games weren’t the ones that made BFV and 2042 and I was right. It went from authentic, immersive shooters to tacky shooters like Fortnite. It doesn’t help knowing that EA actually wanted the game to be like Fortnite.
BFV trailer was the start of the demise. That prosthetic arm right there with that woman, that marked it.
@@metalrockstarizer89 amen
It's sad, ironic, greedy and all sorts of things mixed into one. EA went for the money and what has been produced will earn them barely anything compared to what could have been. Had they just focussed on making the best Battlefield game you could ever own with the classic BF core mechanics, that would have been enough to secure its long term future as a classic game. All of the fans would have been overjoyed and that joy would have attracted newer players. The game would have been a huge success if it stuck to its roots.
Once the game was settled as the "best" Battlefield game ever made, with a solid fanbase of players they could have then focussed on cosmetics, new maps, battle passes and ALL the things they believed would make them money. I'm not averse to skins, passes etc having bought a few on COD, but that's because the COD franchise sticks to its core and MW19 was an excellent game right from the Beta - that excellent foundation paved the way for a good future, and the game was so much fun I was happy to buy battle passes for me and my son, plus skins etc. I guess between me and my son we probably spent over £300 on MW19 but it was well worth it and I still play it now. EA have stolen my £68 for this game and that is ALL they will get for it.
These companies are run by business graduates who have no idea how the game should be. Games like BF should be designed and built by BF fans and players and people that actually play the games.
This whole situation has left a sour taste in my mouth for gaming and games companies, and going forward I will now be very careful on which games and which companies get my hard earned money. A game will need to prove itself from the off before I even think about buying it. EA has hurt the gaming industry with this one. We need developers and game studios that are passionate about games, and not how many million $ they can make each month.
It amazes me that a company making so much money like EA, couldn't be bothered to kit out their developers home setup with a proper PC and full array of testing consoles. EA should be sued over this game, from players and employees.
How to defeat EA? #CancelEA don't spend a penny and look for alternatives. BF is now dead.
Look how much money they Print for free with fucking Fifa cards and then they cant spent shit on the bf production it's so depressing
Ea should be getting their cheeks clapped dude by no sales, hurt them where it hurts the most
Dude, your Defqon pfp combined with your insightful comment about a franchise i truly love makes me so proud of you. Have you ever been to the festival?
Absolutely agree with all of this, EA could’ve sent this game out the park if they had just out more effort into the game and just listened to the fan base. It’s a shame that it’s like this, let’s hope they make some changes to the base game at least.
This should make me angry but it doesn't. It just makes me sad. When BFV's troubles were front and center I already got wind of how much troubles DICE was going through but I was secretly hoping that 2042 would have at least more time to figure out how to do things better. This video just reinforces the fact that even more time won't really do much because the same bad calls that made BFV the way it is, are the same ones that plagued the development of 2042. And the saddest thing of all? No amount of time will bring back the original developers that had so many years under their belts. Even if the entire management wanted to make things happen, the experience of knowing how to use frostbite to get what we want simply wont be there for many years to come.
BFV isn that bad, gunplay/movement/vehicle/squad mechanichs are the best of the series. The lack of ww2 athmosphere and bad marketing killed it.
@@carrast lack of team balancing and cheat prevention killed it faster than anything else. Nobody wants to fight a team of level 200+ when you're with new players on your side.
@@pulangpandong Agreed, thats what made me stop playing. But damn the gunplay was very good. And soldiers animations were top notch compared to BF2042. Really sad a multi billion company won't protect its player base against cheaters.
Yeah bfv had the best movement and gunplay
@@carrast what WW2 atmosphere?
EA tried this with command & conquer. They wanted it to be more like Starcraft and in the end doing that killed C&C
Was thinking exactly this, it's sad to see EA not only not learning, but literally killing the franchise that made them in the early 2010s... :/ Time to move to World War III.
We all remember Westwood studios, and now they've managed to kill off DICE as well. It exists now in name only., EA destroys everything it touches. It buys all these great studios with great talented people, and then their toxic management drives all the talent away, and they're left with essentially nothing. What a shame! Glad I was able to refund this game.
They also got battlefront and ran that into the ground
@@chinchy111 Yea, then Disney proceeded to run star wars into the ground as well.
@@chinchy111 DICE LA? I don’t recall that being their fault. I assume you’re talking DICE SE.
I think it’s time for a different company ( not involved in any way with EA or Activision ) to make a multiplayer shooter
DrDisrepect formed a company to develop an online multiplayer fps game. Hopefully they come up with something good because at the top is Doc who is a gamer
@@yashkaliapiano Dr.Disrespect is a goon. The man has horrible hot takes. He said Halo won't last 3 months without a BR.
Keep your expectations low because I doubt it will be any better than a Chinese CoD mobile rip-off.
@@SkyNinja759 you said it really blunt but honestly, I don't think that a single person in general will make a game that appeals to most.
World war 3 is a good competitor of battlefield
The story of the neglected golden goose comes to mind whenever I think about EA, and it’s sad to see so much potential crippled by greed.
"Gamers could have waited an year"? We would have waited for as long as they wanted but EA CEO is the one who fucked it up not us the customers.
They really wanted it out before the end of year surge of purchases for Black Friday/ Christmas. The execs have to show the numbers on their quarterly reports!
Oh yeah, of course they would. Just like all those people sending death threats to CDPR devs for delaying CP2077. Yes, gamers are veeeeryy patient.
@@bugbuster8598 Yea the handful of people who send death threats really forced CDPR to release the game when they weren’t ready. People who actually think a small group of man babies who send death threats are forcing these multi million or billion companies to release unfinished products are brain dead morons.
Went back to Bf4 and Bf1 just a few days after it launched. That game is nothing but an insult to Battlefield fans and the exact opposite of a love letter
"B-but Moritz, the love letter was Portal, not 2042 u burger brain." 😝😜🤪
To be fair, they said portal was a love letter, not the 2042 main game. But still, game is dogmeat
Portal is love letter not 2042. Dice was never good for BF fans ripple effect was (dice LA)
@@ermac4205 read your ass like the goddamn Bible from a mile away.
@@ermac4205 Dice was never good? Yes they were, Bf4 was amazing and it was not primarily developed by Dice L.A.
I only bought 2042 because I thought it was going to be a more slightly futuristic BF4, and they leaned in that direction in early development by bringing back recognizable characters such as Pac and Irish. I've never been more disappointed (other than BFV) with a Battlefield game, and I hope they listen to us and give us the experience we all enjoyed before, and want now.
Side note: The specialists are terrible, and don't fit the Battlefield atmosphere of regular soldiers in a massive war. BF3 nailed that style on the head, and that's all I'd play if they remastered it, that's how good it is.
Bf5 was a good game.
@@epistimonkapetanios it was okay.
Amen
@@epistimonkapetanios it was the worst of the resents till 2042 came along. now it feels good.
@@Thomaswalton9801 No it was not. It was a fun game. Bf1 was the worst, despite it's atmosphere, becuase games are supposed to be fun above all.
Seeing this video I can not appreciate enough each and every developer who is still working at DICE and the partnered studios. I really don’t wanna imagine how hard it must be to work under such circumstances and conditions. 💜
I loved playing BF4 and BF1 and I so hope that we’ll get a great game with 2042 in the near future.
At least in APEX you can only pick one specific hero per squad.
Where as this game is 128 Sundance Medic Snipers with AA Rockets
The real issue, honestly, is money.
EA got too greedy, wanted DICE to do something they weren't really specialized in doing, and then changed their mind about it after they acquired Respawn+Apex. The entire idea of having a lease system for consoles for the devs is also insane - EA has literal billions of dollars at it's disposal; they could have easily bought 1 of each console, for each developer, on the team; instead, they chose not to. The high developer turn-around could also have been solved with money - specifically, paying the dev staff more. This is one of EA's flagship franchises, and they could have made a fortune if they just weren't so greedy during dev.
and the solution is.. #CancelEA
"cppuld of easily" welll not really lets be fair .. 1 of the smaller of the studios is 500+ devs and there was 3 studios ... so say its rougly $5000 for a Pc and 4 consols x that by 500 for the first studio is 2.5 million and thats just the hardware, then there is set up and the other larger studios... realisticly tehy would of ended up spending $20 million on just that. which would mean they would have to sell over 250,000 copies of the game just to make that back.
@@DaKaPlays Yeah it would cost quite a bit. But it's gonna cost them more because they released a terrible game. They've already lost 75% of their player base. Players that are now spending $20 for a skin on Halo and CoD. Long term health of the game brings long term financial success.
Even from a greed perspective it makes no fucking sense to emulate other AAA games.
Battlefield is a massive franchise with millions of fans. All they had to do was to capitalize on that. Just release a well polished battlefield game for once. One that isn't bugged out of it's mind.
14:56 man, those concepts of standard soldiers and map evolution feel so legit and familiar with the franchise it almost made me cry, if only EA/DICE would've stick to that idea, nothing of this mess would be happening...
27:50 "EA/DICE leads need to push the developers to innovate against the competition". Terrible wording here.
It's not the devs that need to be 'pushed' to innovate. It's obvious the leads themselves are completely out of touch.
The executives at EA/DICE are clearly imposing battle royale / specialists and now even 'hero shooter' trends upon the devs.
What the leads need to do is BACK OFF, stop rejecting ideas that do not fit in current market trends, and let the devs make what they want without micromanaging game mechanics like in-game monetization.
Or DICE will end the same as Bioware.
The problem is that they won't Back off
Dude just....just give it up man, DICE already has gotten to that point. They are just too far gone at this point and it's an inevitably that they will get consumed by EA at this point. May the old studio rest in peace and the new one forever be marred by failure for how they have bastardized the franchise. They deserve everything they are getting for letting shit get this bad in the first place.
Yeah, Tom’s writing isn’t the strongest so there are moments like that in this script.
Either way it was a solid video though
Well said
It's too late. It's already over
Just imagine…A campaign with the grit of the short film and concept art, a multiplayer with every “legacy feature” proper map design classes more weapons etc, and portal to go as wacky as we want
This is sad. I left COD, looking for a home. Everyone said, "Go to Battlefield. Better gameplay and mechanics. " I've watched videos, trailers, etc. I was excited, because I'm so tired of WWII themes, hackers, bugs, etc. So 2042 seemed perfect! But I should of known better when I seen that EA logo. EA, king of the Pump and Dump of franchises.
If you still wanna get into Battlefield, then check out Battlefield 4. It's the last BF game in a modern setting (besides 2042) and it's better than 2042 in almost every way, and for being a 2013 game it's still very much alive and kicking.
@@Casto3924 I downloaded BF5 ,but BF4 seems more like my speed. I'll check it out this weekend.
Yeah. It’s really sad how this turned out. Gaming these days is depressing with so much obvious greed it’s distracting
@@blanchbacker Right!?! At the very least, if you're gonna be greedy, give me quality. What's next? NFTS?
So tldr: EA completely slaughtered Battlefield and OG devs left because they were tired of EA's shit and now DICE is filled with amateurs that suck at decision making.
I believe EA/DICE is killing this franchise by turning it into another game like Fortnite. I hope the devs are aware that the majority of battlefield player base choose this game because of the game environment and the unique vibe that this franchise can only offer in nowadays shooter games.
They let COD come into their lane with warzone( open world type of fps) and stalled. They have to improve and not regress like they are
@@Keviekev115 To be honest, the new warzone map looks amazing and it offers players to customize their own strategies at different locations or buildings to win the game.
Maybe not DICE fault, after all the guilt is from the clowns of EA...
@@MrChris2074 dice is also at fault
Fortnite is way better… first off their game is free with free updates and free content constantly coming in. There game mechanics also work and are much more fun they BF vehicle simulator.
The fact that so many developers had no choice but to leave because they were not allowed creative freedom tells you everything you need to know.
As someone who played the Technical Playtest, it was seriously mind-blowing how nothing changed from the Tech Test to the Full release of 2042.
As a rundown, the playtests were about 2-3 hours long with two session a day on specified days.
On the first session, of course people were hyped. It was a new Battlefield so people didn't care about how it would be but soon enough people started to see certain issues.
The playtest was capped at 30FPS the ENTIRE time, and to add they told everyone that it was capped for the reasoning of "Were are looking for certain data, the performance will be tested during the Beta phase. The Tech Test will be performed to acquire data on server stability. With the new 128 Player-count, stability is much of concern".
So everyone just ignored the very unrealistic frame cap for no reason at all, as the frames wouldn't interfere with data for server stability. But I ignored it and kept playing.
As people kept playing, and people kept leaking gameplay on the strict ruling that EVERYTHING was under NDA, issues were starting to show.
Main Menu selections weren't working properly or at all. Some settings like Future Frame Rendering was completely busted causing system instabilities OUTSIDE the game. At one point, I managed to find a way to shoot 2 rockets out of the Recoilless M5. Hitreg was just as busted as launch day, and even introducing pre-existing bugs from the Tech Test.
As the first weekend of testing ended, we were all hoping for improvements and the justification on updates to fix these ongoing issues.
As the second weekend started, I completely lost it with EA. All of the issues from the first weekend weren't even touched. Further more, as I did know it was for server data, the servers were the absolute worst. You would think to gather data you need as many people on as possible to get the most data possible. However, the servers were constantly crashing and games were completely just closing and sending people to the main menu 24/7 the entire weekend.
As this marked the end of the Tech Test I knew that nothing would change with EA. We reported bugs about performance issues involving settings not working or tracking properly. Lone behold, for many users, the FFR setting still wasn't working in the Beta. To add, certain settings to do with sensitivity were also busted as the sliders weren't tracking the proper values.
If you know one thing about EA, its to never EVER trust them to make a good quality product ever again
Developers: I have an idea!
Corporate Management: No... *WE* have an idea, are we clear?
I don't think the game would have been better with more time. Sure some of the bugs/issues in the game might have been found and fixed but the design choices would not have been changed. We would just have a more polished turd if they had more time. I think it's fine that they chased the money but there was a way to do that and keep the Battlefield identity.
Bfbc2, bf3 and bf4 made them money. The formula was fine and didn't need to change.
Battlefield is done, rest in peace.
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That BF1 soundtrack in the background makes me wanna cry. It was the last great BF we had.
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BF4 was the last great Battlefield. BF1 felt like an arcadey CoD game
@@WingXCustom buddy you’re smoking crack if you think bf1 is anything like a cod game
@@Padlock_Steve Ok now you’re just trolling me lmao good try steve
Nothing like the last 5 minutes of an Operations campaign. Man, I wish there was more BF serves than there are now
We will never have a Battlefield as solid as BF3
BF4 was still good fun in gameplay, but it was obvious that the map design was scale and spectacle first, level design second which is why we ended up with maps like Golmud and Silk Road.
A philosophy that continued with 1 and was a little improved by 5, but now 2042 has the worst in the series, along with the changes to the core experience like swapping classes for the trendy hero characters. And then the cherry on top was EA's confirmation that the next game is gonna be just a straight up BR.
Battlefield is finally dead.
Very interesting info about working from home and the effect it had on development. I've been curious about that for a while now. No coincidence that since covid, many major AAA titles either got delayed, or got released anyway in a poor state.
I should have realized that a company that buys the cheapest servers would do nothing to let the developers actually work from home. I guess they didn't want to provide high end computers to do the work they need to do. Nor did they want to delay the game and lose money from people dissatisfied with CoD.
This still doesn’t explain why dice and ea are so disconnected and the fact they dont know what the players actually want
Basically stupidity, we don't want battlefield to play like pubg or warzone, we want battlefield, but apparently they totally misses that simple point.
@@mikedoe525 never has a consumer base told a company how to print money and the company go "nope we gonna do the exact opposite" then call you uneducated for not buying it!
Because upper management is generally always out of touch with reality. They don't actually make the products they sell or even *have* to know much about them. All they do is sit at desks, have conference calls, and pretend that their spreadsheet skills qualify them to think they understand how video games work. They're ignorant bean-counters who can't be fired for their stupidity because they're all on the same team.
Just like how Vince mcmahon is out of touch in WWE and the wrestling industry is the same for EA. All powered by one thing; Greed!
Suits, c suite assholes, bean counters are not going home and playing these games.
This was extremely helpful, and now I know why 2042 turned out the way it has. Just wish the original devs were there and had that freedom to be creative with 2042. Imagine the game we'd have if so.
"UI has always been understaffed and underscoped" as a UI designer, this is the norm for nearly any and all games AAA and indie.
This whole ordeal is incredibly disheartening as the Battlefield franchise has always been a huge, driving source of inspiration and passion for my career. To see it absolutely slaughtered like this reminds me why I avoid AAA studios. Once a game becomes so successful the execs, management, and shareholders can't stand to risk the "success" (read: "their profits") on the "whims of passion and creativity" even if it's success was owed to passion and creativity to begin with. So every possible corner is cut and every path taken is limited to those paved by successful trends proven by others. And, to be safe, they try to maximize potential profit by making the game little more than a platform for micro-transactions. RIP Battlefield. RIP DICE. I truly mourn both.
If you have a passion for ui I encourage you to take a look at The Last of Us Part 2. It has the most prestine, functional, elegant and readable ui I've seen in years. Polished to perfection. Naughty dog has some unbelievable talent in their studio
I am also working for a software development company and so I know this issue. As long as the code works we can just explain the users 100 times how to use it correctly and not invest more into UX/UI
The issue here is, I FEEL LIKE, that it does not feel like it isnt polished or not good enoug but it is flat out embarrassing. Like UX/UI always should focus on making things simple and time efficient and in battlefield is there one thing u dont need to click at least twice to get what u want? I am so confused how this happened this is honestly crazy to me
@@Criiies Also Red Dead Redemption.
I'll just never understand what made them think that a hero shooter - or a specialist system - would be better than the established class system. Bugs and performance issues aside - nothing new for Battlefield, they'll get fixed - it's a shame that the game gets pushed in a direction where it does not belong. No one asked for this. Battle Royales and hero shooter are popular among many people, won't debate that, but the same people that love Rainbow Six Siege or Call of Duty for their operators may also like the fact that Battlefield never worked this way. What was wrong with Assault, Engineer, Medic, Recon? Where's the issue with giving them decent (!!!) skins that fit into the atmosphere?
But even if everything debatable would be cast aside, from bugs, performance, graphics, map design, specialists, et cetera: the fact that they made THIS abomination after failing so absolutely with BFV is astonishing. Aren't there community managers at dice? Does someone at Dice watch or read or listen to any content related to their product? Are they deaf and blind? The community is still actively playing the old titles, even BC2. Reddit, TH-cam, Twitter, Facebook, everything overheated after BFV with several types of criticism - constructive as well as toxic, but anyway, the voices were loud and clear! The communities vision of a future Battlefield was always broadly visible: a game like Battlefield BC2, 3, 4, 1, if Dice had just taken the road down in a straight direction from where they came, we wouldn't be talking now, we would play.
It's so saddening to see a franchise like this going down, because, well, let's be honest: BFV has nearly no bugs now. Runs just fine. But it's design is so awful, that it might as well be dead. The same will happen to 2042. You can fix the bugs, you wont fix 20x Maria Falck - 10 on the one side, 10 on the other, the ones speaking english, the other russian. But none of the players behind them will know who's better - no scoreboard. None of them chose actively to be on that server - no server browser. Sigh.
The problem was that classes don't sell microtransactions as good as individual "heroes". That's the one and only reason. If specialists would have been the only change and everything else would have worked like intended, most people would have lived with that change and EA would have increased sales in microtransactions. They wouldn't even notice some hardcore fans "not buying because of specialists" compared to the profits from the additional microtransactions.
The problem is, that they are going where the money is and not where the fans want the product to be - except that is where the money is. But sadly for all fans of BF the money lies within casual hero-battleroyal-shooters where you can milk the playerbase for years to come and not within selling a quality product once.
Look in now days everyone love that just look others games
If you remember battlefield 4 was same unfinish and disappointment but after updates become the best battlefield game this gonna happen with battlefield 2042 wait till the last update
minor thing, but the phase after pre-production is not called "post-production". that is a term from the film industry. in the game industry its just called production. usually it goes like this: pre-production > vertical slice/mvp > production > alpha > beta > release > post-release/life-service
with established franchises usually they will skip the vertical slice, but depends on the studio
2042's Multiplayer feels like it's a limited time mode in a BR game, like it's a game that came out as a BR and is giving you the chance to play some other modes.
Well… that’s literally what it is. Lmao
No it is not, they just tried a new experience with 128 and failed.
The BR bullshit theory is a fan made BS.
It WAS originally developed as a BR... that's why for example, there was no scoreboard but it _did_ give you a *squad* placement at games end - an obvious leftover from the BR concept. Thats why it has 128 players and such huge maps. That's why the game is unfinished and why Portal was added as half-baked filler using old maps to make up for the lack of original content. It's as plain as the nose on your face lol
@@Enes-wj5xq Uh no. Battlefield 2042 originally was going to be a BR game, it was only until the last minute EA was freaking out of it being a failure so they decided to change it & add multiplayer back into the game, which you clearly see that this shit is a hot mess, multiplayer is not even the foundation anymore its BR while everything else is built around that or its a after thought.
@@yootchoobe thank you sir, you did your homework
It was EA, it was always EA! Can't blame the dice devs. A multi billion dollar company can't even provide its biggest studio enough resources and time to complete a game.
#CancelEA don't forget :)
when you stay with a company as long as they are your part of the blame, It's just like if you were part of a robbery but didn't do it you'll still be arrested for being Accomplice mainly Dice is still Guilty
Sadly its time to let go, I cant see how the next Battlefield would be any different or good for that matter. the OG devs left and took hope with them. its time we put the franchise to rest and thank the devs for the previous games.
Agreed BF1/V was the mark of the end it wasn't bad but the change was there. Lack of a Hardcore mode ruined it for me and before anyone says that 2042 had a HC mode they don't. It's not a dedicated HC mode like BF3/4 where it was fun to play.
Sadly I've come to the same conclusion
@@matejharaslin7288 Well I gave up on this amd other games. It's sad to see the state of once good games go to shit.
What does us knowing what happen going to do? already spent 50 bucks for an unfinished game. If you want to rip a company dont hide behind calling it just being "informative". Rip them, they deserve it. They def took 100% of my money for maybe 30% of the game
I was gonna buy it since it's on sale but I don't wanna support this bullshit. Fuck the marketing department and DICE. I'm gonna give enlisted and insurgency a try
@@strife9878 insurgency is kino
I mean you could've known by playing the public test. I figured out that way to not buy it.
Got the game on sale and couldn't stop laughing at how there is actually a bug in a FPS which refrains you from aiming down sights.
No idea how that got past any testers as it's happened 4 times in a single game session.
Lol right? On PC there was a bug that prevented you from looking left and right. I'm glad I got my money back lol
So basically this Battlefield game was made by a team that has never made a Battlefield game. Makes a lot of sense now.
And made by a team that apparently never played any previous BF games. Lots of COD bois and Fortnite fans by the way 2042 looks and plays.
Add
-SCOREBOARD
-ALL CHAT
-PLAYER STATS
-SERVER BROWSER
-NEW GAME MODES FOR 2042
-PRIVATE SERVER FOR RENT
-64 PLAYER GAME MODE
-ADD BATTLEFIELD
Maps and more maps
Remove
- Specialists
I wish they would just listen
Breaks my heart to see this franchise get strangled to death by EA being trend chasers instead of remaining true to there core fanbase.
The end of the video where he says EA CANNED BAD COMPANY 3 BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WOULDNT SELL!!!!!!! How out of touch disillusioned are they from their own fanbase. Bad Company 2 sold massively and really got Battlefield in the mainstream especially on console, like come on seriously
I just can't get over the fact that Motive seems to have a better understanding of the Frostbite engine than even DICE does. Both Squadrons and Dead Space launched with hardly any of the kinds of bugs and visual jank that 2042 did, despite both running on Frostbite (Dead Space in particular being built on this latest iteration of Frostbite that powers 2042).
Don't cry because it's over smile because it happened. RIP battlefield
The moment I found out I have more frostbite experience than all of current DICEs developers...
In a way it is the consumers fault, they analyze & see how many of you mindlessly blow money on call of duty warzone & they see that, so now EA wants it too & willingly to destroy they're franchise/core audience who actually care about the franchise just to follow a fucking trend that wasn't even popular until a few years ago.
This battle royale craze shit seriously needs to stop, all our multiplayer games are becoming empty shells of themselves or just being ruined. Take a good long look at call of duty, take out warzone & look at the current sorry state the multiplayer/zombies is
@@DatBoiRatchet yup, I'm still astounded by how people on console still play Warzone when the gunplay is fucking unbalanced.
@@Padlock_Steve can you read your sentence again? And no, it's not fun. It's poorly optimized for console and it looks like shit.
@@Padlock_Steve what in the hell do you mean? Have you seen the release of the new island for Warzone? It has the exact same problems season 2 has and that's awful render distance, muted colors, and bad balance. Sorry but I never knew being a fanboy meant complaining about a franchise I used to like.
@@Padlock_Steve then don't try talking if you refuse to give the same effort I've given you. Twot.
The concept art looks 10X better than what we have
Yeah
It's a concept art, what do you expect?
They should've delayed it for a year like Microsoft did with halo infinity.
EA basically had "noobs" (experienced/skilled, but unfamiliar with DICE tools) try and upgrade frostbite. They break it and we lose legacy features. EA literally broke frostbite lol. Battlefield officially toast. We can put a fork in it... Sad.
Props to Tom and Crashgames. Eye opening and fairly sad...but, clarity should have been EA and DICE's prioty this time around. Shame it has come to this.
Haha this is more exciting to watch than playing the actual game.
I’m honestly in denial. Battlefield was the definitive multiplayer game for me, I am sad at the prospect that it may never go back to being as good or fun as BF3/4/1 were.
What is it with these multibillion dollar corporations and just screwing up their properties? They did the same to Star Wars. EA held that license exclusivity for years and all they had to show for it was two average Battlefront games and a decent single player game with Respawn.
This definitely will NOT be as good as bf3 and 4
Battlefield 1 was super unique. That was my first Battlefield I really fell in love with.
@@mississippijones5204 was probably the best bf, if it had any stuff to grind for. It lacked gadgets and weapons tbh.
The way I see it, game dev companies have a sweet spot.
1. Too small, the companies are underfunded and lack enough manpower to make a AAA title. However, they have all the creative freedom they want, because they are essentially running their own company. Basically most indie devs. I think this is why we see so many innovative and good indie games,
2. Medium size companies are the sweet spot, where they have enough manpower to make games very close to AAA in quality and also still have a degree of creative freedom, with maybe some interference from the publisher.
3. Finally we have the large game studios which have the money and manpower to make AAA titles every few years, but this comes with the total loss of freedom, because once you are throwing that kinda money around you have to answer to investors, execs, shareholders etc. This causes issues like we are seeing here. Non gamers making choices for $ over gaming experience.
I agree with you but Star Wars battlefront 2 is one of the best shooters ever created. All hate it because of the micro transactions controversy. Actual gameplay and Cosmetic micro transactions are very different things.
I am not a hero I am merely a soldier. My life is expendable and temporary. I will come back over and over again to fight the never ending war but it seems war for once has changed. My new war is one against greed where my inaction weighs far more than any action. Their greed will not put its hands in my pockets.
My fellow soldiers, will you fight?
In this war against greed, brothers in arms, would you walk the fields of battle with me one last time?
thank you for this in depth look. I tried for months to buy a new PS5 thinking Battlefield was going to be such an amazing game. The look of this game alone has that PS5 still sitting in the box and me looking for a new game to take its place. These giant empty ugly maps with no detail, no destruction, not even any cover, already had me so disappointed that the glitches of the game are something I will never even see first hand. These ugly, empty, unimaginative maps ruined it for me.
Start Playing Hell let loose its so much fun on ps5
If this Battlefield Hero shooter is really to appear, I hope that it fails mercilessly, I Play bf since BC1 on my PS3 and when I hear these plans for the future, I only get sick.
Got some bad news for ya: this Battlefield hero shooter is out already, don't worry it already has a 2.2 on metacritic
It has, and it is
@@1_visje34 Hahaha the thing is the EA idiots blame it on the bugs and not the core problem that this game has no soul and the specialists were a stupid idea
@@Thrawn896 it's success from their perspective. Cause cod kids likes it
The problem i have with Embark Studios is that Patrick _'dont like it, dont buy it'_ Soderlund is one of the founders. Im sure he was very complicit in the downfall of Battlefield.
EA dont seem to get that If i wanted to play a hero shooter *then id go and play a hero shooter* or pretty much any other genre that im interested. What theyve done here is basically hijack the battlefield franchise and repurposing it for something else just like disney do when they gender bend or race bend their characters. Apparently its so hard to make a game that they have to hijack another franchise and their community rather than build a new game/franchise from the ground up with its own community that will grow naturally.
They have pretty much destroyed the franchise just so they could have an easier time copy and pasting code from apex legends all over it. Im going to reinstall BF2 and get it going with BF2hub instead.
#NotMyBattlefield
Exactly. They put the Battlefield name on a fame thats not Battlefield
I would have waited literally FIVE more years for a modern BF3/4 with just more of those features. Such a disaster of a game. So disappointing
WW3 on PC (in closed Beta) is currently more promising and more BF than anything DICE will make if they continue this route. Highly recommend supporting that developer instead. More on board means the sooner they port it to console
true could of patiently waited a long time for mod BF3/4.... insugency, BF4..WW3 would be nice on console :(
For all those in the comments: I think it's important to remember that individual developers shouldn't be blamed for following what higher ups told them. The quotes in this video show that they were overworked and upset and they deserve our empathy. Continue to aim your criticism - restrained, level-headed criticism - at the execs who overworked their staff and disregarded their fans. Great video.
No.
They signed the contract. They stuck around. No one forced them to keep working for the same employer. All the power was in their hands.
@@Sneedmire really? Trying to find work in a pandemic when they already have a high paying job? Working countless hours to avoid the prospect of losing that job? You even said it yourself. They signed a contract. I don’t think it’s as simple as “no”
@@jazzypizzazz4538 No, it's that simple.
F--- them.
@@Sneedmire Lmaooo okay
Dude I know it's the music of the game, but what a fucking ear sore those transitions are.
Called it after BF5, the next title was make or break for DICE. I meant it but didn’t actually think they would fuck it up this bad. I feel like a fool for thinking they learned lessons from BF5 and we’re going to go all out on the next BF title(2042). They straight up lied to fans of the franchise the whole way through, it’s a fucking disgrace! BF is well and truly dead I think.
I think we all thought that they really learned something after the BF5 failure. And after closing the developement early for that title, they would really have something great for the new title.
Some of the Frostbite issues are apparent. I'm a soft engineer and I immediately recognized BF5 and BF2042 have a missing set of shader files or some switched parameters on the PC version which makes the game look worse, they need to fix it. There are also memory leaks. Look at console gameplay and compare it to PC, the lighting is night and day. (just to be clear this is my assumption, I don't work with Frostbite or DICE but there is a clear issue.)
Why would it be different on consoles as opposed to PC?
@@blaeck9063 Tons of technical backdrop is different. As for as to why this issue, I have no idea since BF5's SP doesn't have this issue. Probably something missing in the MP loading.
Give this feedback to some DICE developer on twitter. Tom Henderson is not going to fix the game.
Frostbite is a terrible engine to work with and it must die.
It's funny that you said that because I've been busy factory reseting my pc twice this past weekend because I got a huuuuuge memory leak caused by Battlefield worst coding game ever
"just copy whats popular" thats actually sad... imagine in 10 years well only have a single video game reskinned by every popular studio... great.
while I personally enjoy the game, it makes me incredibly sad to know that the game could be so much better if EA just let DICE do their thing instead of pulling on the leash to steer them in the direction they wanted the franchise to go in.
Just replace dice with literally any other company that EA owns
"The game could be so much better if (Dice,Visceral games,Bioware,Pandemic studio,Origin Systems, Bullfrog games, blackbox games, mythic entertainment, maxis software, playfish, salt lake studios, nuFX games,westwood studios,Dreamworks interactive) do their thing instead of pulling on the leash to steer them in the direction they wanted the franchise to go."
@@Skellington77 yeah. EA & live service is a scourge on gaming
@@cyanide7389 Apparently though EA is next on the major acquisition block for MANY big companies
Disney, Amazon, Walmart, Apple and don't forget SONY are all looking to buy out the company
@@Skellington77 ya know, some may see this as an unpopular opinion, but I really hope they DONT get acquired- especially by Sony. EA's a shitty company that needs a major restructuring, but a buy out isn't the way to do it. It'll only make things a bigger pain in the ass in the long run.
If people keep pretending to enjoy literal shit on a plate they just got served solely because they paid a lot of money for it, then companies will keep making incomplete games like this
Ditch the specialist from the Core game. Bring back the class system. Double to amount of weapons. Remove the gimmick gadgets. Remove the tornadoes. Increase destruction. Core Battlefield is what people want. If people want BR make it a stand alone game.
Everytime I think EA has finally put it’s head on straight, they pull shit like this.
Yeah it seems they wait til the game gets hyped to show the downside that being specialist with cringe lines and a shit ton of bugs and broken guns and it seems that even Portal won't be able to save this disappointment of a BF game.
When exactly did you think EA put their head on straight?
@@kphantom battlefield 1
@@jacob8265 that's a 6 year old game lol
Hopefully we'll see a full reveal of ARC Raiders, the first game developed by Embark Studios, at TGA, rather than just a teaser trailer.
Is this where most of the original dice developers are?
Embark is sadly owned by Nexon. So really i wouldn't expect anything good to come from them, Nexon just churns out MTX garbage.
@ANG3LxDUST
A good few of them yeah. Including the ever delightful Patrick Söderlund 😐.
Third person, Nexon is the owner.
@@johnoneill3654 "Don't like it Don't buy it" 2
What to take away from this video is that DICE isn't the company to blame, it's EA.
when you stay with a company as long as they are your part of the blame, It's just like if you were part of a robbery but didn't do it you'll still be arrested for being Accomplice mainly Dice is still Guilty
@@doyourememberme2904 How is DICE still to blame? They’re owned by EA and EA calls the shots. When EA says jump all DICE can do is say “how high?”. They’re not allowed to say no to their publisher.
Dumbed down gameplay? Check.
Removal of scoreboard? Check.
Bugs galore? Check.
Broken vehicle system? Check.
Ripped out most legacy systems? Check.
Strong, independent wahmen of color? Check.
It's a win guys, we've got wahmen of color! That's everything we wanted right?
EA at it again killing franchises because of their greedy vision. Dead space is dead, Visceral is dissolved, now Battlefield is sinking too, and DICE is an empty shell of its former self.
Well. There's no future. At least not for upcoming years.
After BFV, I stopped believing. After BF1, I had suspicions, as in the case of other shooters that EA (Battlefront) released. For the first time in my 30 years gaming experience, I am convinced that internet websites should position the names of the authors of BF2042 under not too positive slogans. To get rid of them in gaming market, at all. Forever. So no one will hire them again. The problem with creating Battlefield series is that the people who get paid for the work don't take any responsibility in the gaming industry at the same time.
The girl that made the UI and interface for the game gave herself an award, and she called the feedback vulgar and useless. Nobody will ever know that she has made this interface so badly until the mass of internet portals start writing about her, directly, as a complete failure. This is the problem - we are stigmatizing the game, not the authors by their names, for their work. This will simply lead in a year, two, five, to more games will be created by these people and they will create another disaster.
We need to start slowly deleting specific authors, not companies or devs studios. Thanks to this, maybe subsequent studies will not employ them again or anymore, and noticing that someone is working on a game will immediately raise suspicions.
Finally, it is worth noting that we hardly ever appreciate specific game authors (like level designers) for their ideas and hardly ever stigmatize them for it.
Whats wrong with bf1? Basically the last good game battlefield
@@robertoleon5084 Battlefield showed the first clear signs of the cognitive shift in the game design.
- Every bullet became a tracer, and obnoxiously bright at that.
- All vehicles were given full 3p reticles. No longer relegating all combat to 1p. While all previous BF games allowed a 3p vehicle camera only tanks had a "crosshair" of sorts but it wasn't great for aiming and mainly served to help orient the player since the turret moved separate from the movement. (In 2042, now, vehicles even DEFAULT in 3p view)
- Vaulting was expanded to include climbing but with ridiculous speeds which has forever screwed up the overall traversal speed in the game.
- Hardcore mode was tossed aside with a half-hearted implementation and being shoved into "custom games" effectively killing it
- Vehicles got the ability to self-repair which had a pretty detrimental effect on the engineer/repair gameplay loop
These were things that wouldn't have made it in-game based on the paradigms that the OG developers (who largely left between BF4 and BF1) used to guide, limit, and define their game design. This shift got exponentially worse from BF1-BFV and again from BFV-2042. These were early symptoms of the "loss of identity" the franchise is experiencing now. They represent the loss of vision and philosophy that gave the franchise it's "flavor".
@@deadpxl well said, sir. Well said.
@@deadpxl I wasn't conscious of the vehicle reticle changes until reading your comment. Its a great example to raise, and really represents the overall change in intent.
@@deadpxl I can actually agree with what ur pointing out but bf1 is such a good game that I can’t put it into a list of bad decisions from DICE. More like every change they made was really good and ended up being accepted by the community. I dont think bf1 was the first game to start lossing the essence of battlefield, but I do think it was a boost for the studio to actually make changes that is killing the saga.
Also I think that adding the full antivehicle class and relagating the repair job to support was a great idea. Mayorly because support wasn’t used as much as the other classes.
No matter what, you did an amazing job Tom. I love you.
No one asked for a hero shooter EA... You have Apex Legends for that.
If this game still makes decent money, or even more money than they would have expected from a 'real bf' instead of this BR-something, then in the eyes of an exec/suit this was the right decision.
Sucks that you are right
Love how the whole game is just an EA response to whatever was popular at the time and created this awful Frankenstein that looks nothing like a battlefield game.