I remember jumping into Odin when I was brand new thinking it'd be easy cuz it didn't have the Ex tag. _And_ I was playing SCH. I've never felt so unprepared. Don't knock the single piece glams. Aside from just being more available than the F.A.T.E., single pieces are always better than full suits. Full suits suck.
I know its a ranking list and fun facts are required for every fight but I really wished you would have mentioned the quirk with using Titan-egi as a tank for Ramuh, especially since you show it off in the video! Love the video and Titan is also definitely my favorite. So many memories. So many landslides...
@@Kidame17 leviathan unreal was more of the annoying side cuz nowadays jobs deal so much more damage even with the boss synced up to current level that the downtime ends up appearing in very awkward times cuz phases in arr fights progress through hp thresholds instead of each mechanic being on a timer like how it is nowadays.Leviathan jumps away a lot and it gets aggrevating,usually i dont mind downtime in stuff like ultimates but ex trials and savage dont do a lot to warrant their downtime mechs
@@GanonAutumn777 this is especially prevolent in coils savage, sometimes you need to literally stop dpsing so you dont faze push n blend difficult mechs to early
For me personally my two favourites are Moggle Mog EX and Shiva EX (MEX and SEX as people called them). Moggle Mog purely because of how chaotic it was; it was such a glorious clusterfuck of everything everywhere. Shiva was mainly sentimental as my friends and I sat down and farmed her out for an entire afternoon for about six hours straight, just chilling and talking about inane crap. The fight itself was also complex enough to keep you engaged...although one gripe I had with it was Lily dying over and over due to the Staff Form's constant AOE's so I had to resummon her time and time again, which was murder on the mana.
I would have started a riot if Titan wasn't 1st. this was (latency aside) a crazy fun fight. recently did it MINE ad it was a blast. and now that I almost an ultimate legend, the Titan phase in UwU is a really fun part
Lol i did Odin mine like twice in the last month with random pf groups, went in n healed it n im a tank main. Got a legacy static recently cleared everything mine up to alexander n now we in A7S ....so 8-10 year old content still goin strong.
Playing SCH since ARR, I remember two Scholars in Titan Ex being frowned upon. PUG groups got kinda toxic if at least one of the healers didn‘t come in as a WHM, as the WHM/SCH combination was the most optimal (they’d accept the 2 Scholar combination if at least one Scholar has learned Stoneskin). Not to mention keeping Eos alive during the fight was also a challenge! Titan Ex and Ifrit Ex made me step up my healing game, so they are at my top 2 as well.
Garuda gets special recognition from me because I don't think any fight has ever changed so significantly in its mechanics from version to version. I don't think that's as good as consistency, but it was definitely neat that the fight experience was so altered.
Ultima weapon and Knights of The round extremes are not called extreme(極) in japanese version. Both trials name is like dungeons with 4 kanji(all dungeon has names start with 4 kanji) "究極幻想(Ultimate Fantasy)" and "蒼天幻想(Heavens Fantasy). They stopped doing this from Shinryu EX but continued their naming in amaurot dungeon "終末幻想(Doomsday Fantasy)" and Dead ends dungeon "最終幻想(Final Fantasy)".
15:30 Yup. Tanks are still killing their groups on Shiva hard forgetting it's not extreme. Can confirm. 16:15 Yup, Shiva circles. 22:05 Nope, people still can't do orbs to break tethers. And your bit with Titan and the puns, if I wasn't already subbed that would get me.
the drop that let you make the shinny weapons was the best thing from moggle mog since you could sell it for 16 mil in the early days got one and it funded my raid gear :) I think my fav was Shiva was the 1st fight i tried to solo heal and tank was so fun
I started in 2018, I wiped 4x on ifrit normal (4 man) ............when que DF also wiped, cannot imagine how it was on release Also I did not know this "odin extreme was an extreme at all.....??? I queued it as a Red Mage back then and when it popped we had 2x wipes but I understood the gimmicks so well I guided a clear and I was so proud of it and thought later how silly it was of me........ now I think I should be proud!
Oh bro, I remember off-tanking RamuhEx with an MT that _really_ wanted to solo tank, to the point that they wouldn't let me get 3 orbs. Me and the healers spent entirely too long begging them to let us do the fight right instead of just leaving. Horrible at the time, but kinda funny to think about now.
Maybe mention the Relic Trials in a vid as well. As someone who only just started XIV last July (6 months in now, 1351 hours played lmao), fights like Hydra are such a push over. Curious as to what it was like at launch.
I am far from a top-end player in XIV, but I participated in the most end-game content during the ARR era. From what I remember the relic trials were all pretty easy and straightforward(though Garuda could trip you up) except Titan Hard. Ifrit and Hydra I cleared on my first attempts, I think Garuda took me a few tries and Titan took days, probably weeks. It was funny because you went through each trial with little difficulty generally(I used the Duty Finder and just pugged all of them until Titan Hard and had very few issues) and then you got to Titan Hard and it was like getting hit by a big rig without brakes. Between the latency and people just not being as good at the game as we are now and having very little knowledge of the fight as a whole it was just a nightmare. When you saw someone with their relic at the time they were basically a God among men. I was stuck on Titan Hard for many many days before finally clearing it myself, but man, what a fight. What an accomplishment.
@@maxv658 yeah. I've seen others mention Titan Hard, lol. From what I understand, it was Perma Death to, when someone fell outta the arena, which made pugging even worse, lol. I've also been told (tho this might not be true), that this was Titan was the first fight people warned of Trap Parties, lol. Anyways, thanks for the rundown, and look forward to what's next!
@@Calculusman1084 Titan, Ravanna and Bismarck all had permadeath when you fell off. They changed it in I think 6.0 when they started reworking some duties for duty-support.
I'm glad you had Titan at the top. All the fights with Titan are amoung my favourites. Fun story time: I managed to get pulled into a Ramuh Ex the the other day. I did it unsynced for the wonderous tales and forgot to remove it when I queued for Agalia. To my surprise the Ex popped first and I clicked on it before i noticed the wrong number of players. So I spent an hour trying to kill him (we actually got to about 2% on one pull 😁). We even kicked an AFK player and got a replacement in quick time. I haven't done Ramuh since he came out, let's just say I was a bit rusty. But I'm on Chaos and I was really surprised that I even got the extreme in the first place.
Ultima unreal was fun, especially when we tried to tank invuln the orbs and the game went "no" lmfao, i ended up accidently popping the Tank LB3 just as the last set of orbs came up, we used that as our way of damn near ignoring the last set of orbs.
As much as I love Leviathan as a summon his fight was awful. I'd easily rank it at the bottom. Nothing happens in it. Moogle I would rate a lot higher as any fight with a Tank swap and having to manage hp levels actually require some brain power. I was a solo WHM player back in ARR and done all these fights in DF and I loved most of them. Even today I wish we had an EX trial roulette as some of them are so much fun synced. Easily the best Mentor roulette you can get when you spawn in with fresh players who have never done it. Titan, Ramuh and Shiva as top 3 is no brainer. Shiva was much easier than the rest but I felt mechanically the fight was pretty well done.
Titan Extreme was total HELL for use Europeans cos the latency was INSANE, LAGslide was SOOOOO ANNOYING, even if you were moving ahead of time, you could still get nailed by it. "ALL ABOARD TITAN AIRWAYS!!" thank god they moved the servers, dont have latency issues anymore lol
it would be super interesting to see a ranking of every ex trial in the game. I've only started playing around 5.4 and the first ex trial I did was Memoria Misera. I'd love to hear how the current ex trials hold up compared to earlier ones.
I still think Titan Unreal is the hardest thing I've ever cleared. Titan in UWU is easier. Titan in Eden Savage is easier. I miss Titan Unreal, I hope they rotate Unreals back around again. It's my benchmark for a difficult fight.
It's really a bit unfortunate that they nerfed Titan a couple months ago by making it so you can resurrect players who fall off. It'll take a little bit of the edge off for players freshly attempting it synced or MI/NE.
I wish they rotated them every .5 patch instead of every full patch. Or even just have old unreals available but without faux leaves rewards so if people just want to do them for fun at 90 they can. My guess is Ravana and Thordan after Sophia if they want to do fights people will actually enjoy. Then for 7.0 they move onto Stormblood unreals
The remake of thornmarch hard, no, just toss thornmarch EX into a fire... but remake of ulima's fight... maybe redo balad of ultima? Tells me that thornmarch might be beyond redemption.
I remember jumping into Odin when I was brand new thinking it'd be easy cuz it didn't have the Ex tag. _And_ I was playing SCH. I've never felt so unprepared.
Don't knock the single piece glams. Aside from just being more available than the F.A.T.E., single pieces are always better than full suits. Full suits suck.
I know its a ranking list and fun facts are required for every fight but I really wished you would have mentioned the quirk with using Titan-egi as a tank for Ramuh, especially since you show it off in the video! Love the video and Titan is also definitely my favorite. So many memories. So many landslides...
I remember back in 2.0 when death HP penalty was still a thing, even Titan (Hard) was a nightmare for pugs.
Yikes. I forgot about the HP penalty after being revived.
Titan ex might be the only arr trial that aged well
I really like doing leviathan unreal but Not sure how it was back in arr with classes
@@Kidame17 leviathan unreal was more of the annoying side cuz nowadays jobs deal so much more damage even with the boss synced up to current level that the downtime ends up appearing in very awkward times cuz phases in arr fights progress through hp thresholds instead of each mechanic being on a timer like how it is nowadays.Leviathan jumps away a lot and it gets aggrevating,usually i dont mind downtime in stuff like ultimates but ex trials and savage dont do a lot to warrant their downtime mechs
@@GanonAutumn777 this is especially prevolent in coils savage, sometimes you need to literally stop dpsing so you dont faze push n blend difficult mechs to early
Wait, your camera didn't shift to the arena back then if you fell off? D:
Shiva too. Both were super fun to do every week for unreals
For me personally my two favourites are Moggle Mog EX and Shiva EX (MEX and SEX as people called them). Moggle Mog purely because of how chaotic it was; it was such a glorious clusterfuck of everything everywhere.
Shiva was mainly sentimental as my friends and I sat down and farmed her out for an entire afternoon for about six hours straight, just chilling and talking about inane crap. The fight itself was also complex enough to keep you engaged...although one gripe I had with it was Lily dying over and over due to the Staff Form's constant AOE's so I had to resummon her time and time again, which was murder on the mana.
The Chryalis is literally still an issue. When I get that thing in Roulettes I know I am in for a bad time.
Getting that one I usually expect to wipe at least once.
I would have started a riot if Titan wasn't 1st. this was (latency aside) a crazy fun fight. recently did it MINE ad it was a blast. and now that I almost an ultimate legend, the Titan phase in UwU is a really fun part
Lol i did Odin mine like twice in the last month with random pf groups, went in n healed it n im a tank main. Got a legacy static recently cleared everything mine up to alexander n now we in A7S ....so 8-10 year old content still goin strong.
Playing SCH since ARR, I remember two Scholars in Titan Ex being frowned upon. PUG groups got kinda toxic if at least one of the healers didn‘t come in as a WHM, as the WHM/SCH combination was the most optimal (they’d accept the 2 Scholar combination if at least one Scholar has learned Stoneskin). Not to mention keeping Eos alive during the fight was also a challenge! Titan Ex and Ifrit Ex made me step up my healing game, so they are at my top 2 as well.
Garuda gets special recognition from me because I don't think any fight has ever changed so significantly in its mechanics from version to version. I don't think that's as good as consistency, but it was definitely neat that the fight experience was so altered.
This list order will be amusing to keep on hand come the Eden rankings too.
I fucking KNEW Thornmarch would be lowest. FUCK that trial
"The landslides.. the landslides.."
- Shadowbringers WoL
Ultima weapon and Knights of The round extremes are not called extreme(極) in japanese version.
Both trials name is like dungeons with 4 kanji(all dungeon has names start with 4 kanji) "究極幻想(Ultimate Fantasy)" and "蒼天幻想(Heavens Fantasy).
They stopped doing this from Shinryu EX but continued their naming in amaurot dungeon "終末幻想(Doomsday Fantasy)" and Dead ends dungeon "最終幻想(Final Fantasy)".
Spiny Plume. The bane of my existence.
15:30 Yup. Tanks are still killing their groups on Shiva hard forgetting it's not extreme. Can confirm.
16:15 Yup, Shiva circles.
22:05 Nope, people still can't do orbs to break tethers.
And your bit with Titan and the puns, if I wasn't already subbed that would get me.
the drop that let you make the shinny weapons was the best thing from moggle mog since you could sell it for 16 mil in the early days got one and it funded my raid gear :) I think my fav was Shiva was the 1st fight i tried to solo heal and tank was so fun
I started in 2018, I wiped 4x on ifrit normal (4 man) ............when que DF also wiped, cannot imagine how it was on release
Also I did not know this "odin extreme was an extreme at all.....??? I queued it as a Red Mage back then and when it popped we had 2x wipes but I understood the gimmicks so well I guided a clear and I was so proud of it and thought later how silly it was of me........ now I think I should be proud!
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15:30 OMG I did this a while ago ;-;
I got Shiva Extreme so often in Mentor Roulette, I forgot the Sword and Shield wasn't a Stack in Hard xD
Oh bro, I remember off-tanking RamuhEx with an MT that _really_ wanted to solo tank, to the point that they wouldn't let me get 3 orbs. Me and the healers spent entirely too long begging them to let us do the fight right instead of just leaving. Horrible at the time, but kinda funny to think about now.
Such a shame they removed TItans permadeath if you fall off... now you can get ressed.
Shiva was my lease favorite Ex trial, couldn't even finished it because of diamond dust freezing my ps3.. Good times
Maybe mention the Relic Trials in a vid as well. As someone who only just started XIV last July (6 months in now, 1351 hours played lmao), fights like Hydra are such a push over. Curious as to what it was like at launch.
I am far from a top-end player in XIV, but I participated in the most end-game content during the ARR era. From what I remember the relic trials were all pretty easy and straightforward(though Garuda could trip you up) except Titan Hard. Ifrit and Hydra I cleared on my first attempts, I think Garuda took me a few tries and Titan took days, probably weeks.
It was funny because you went through each trial with little difficulty generally(I used the Duty Finder and just pugged all of them until Titan Hard and had very few issues) and then you got to Titan Hard and it was like getting hit by a big rig without brakes. Between the latency and people just not being as good at the game as we are now and having very little knowledge of the fight as a whole it was just a nightmare. When you saw someone with their relic at the time they were basically a God among men. I was stuck on Titan Hard for many many days before finally clearing it myself, but man, what a fight. What an accomplishment.
@@maxv658 yeah. I've seen others mention Titan Hard, lol. From what I understand, it was Perma Death to, when someone fell outta the arena, which made pugging even worse, lol. I've also been told (tho this might not be true), that this was Titan was the first fight people warned of Trap Parties, lol. Anyways, thanks for the rundown, and look forward to what's next!
@@Calculusman1084 Titan, Ravanna and Bismarck all had permadeath when you fell off. They changed it in I think 6.0 when they started reworking some duties for duty-support.
Haha, I was gonna say, Titan EX better top. Great list. Great vid.
happened in my last DR with shiva hard. She swapped mid phase and the tank tankbusted me.
I'm glad you had Titan at the top. All the fights with Titan are amoung my favourites.
Fun story time: I managed to get pulled into a Ramuh Ex the the other day. I did it unsynced for the wonderous tales and forgot to remove it when I queued for Agalia. To my surprise the Ex popped first and I clicked on it before i noticed the wrong number of players. So I spent an hour trying to kill him (we actually got to about 2% on one pull 😁). We even kicked an AFK player and got a replacement in quick time.
I haven't done Ramuh since he came out, let's just say I was a bit rusty. But I'm on Chaos and I was really surprised that I even got the extreme in the first place.
Do you know when the next free login campaign would be?
I love Ifrit Ex as a healer.
I think they removed perma death on titan ex
Ultima unreal was fun, especially when we tried to tank invuln the orbs and the game went "no" lmfao, i ended up accidently popping the Tank LB3 just as the last set of orbs came up, we used that as our way of damn near ignoring the last set of orbs.
Tank LBing the last set of orbs was basically PF standard during ultima unreal.
@@Knuckx117 oh shit really?! we WERE pretty drunk when we did it 😂
As a new player I think ex ifrit is by far the most difficult of the arr trail
Im a new Player and Just unlocked my First extreme trials. It took me 1 hour to find one single group. Idk If i should Just ignore them
what the hell i had no idea about the non-tanked garuda clone.
Titan was so extreme he was tanking Ramuh
You didn’t mentioned the titan egi strat in ramuh ex XD
As much as I love Leviathan as a summon his fight was awful. I'd easily rank it at the bottom. Nothing happens in it. Moogle I would rate a lot higher as any fight with a Tank swap and having to manage hp levels actually require some brain power. I was a solo WHM player back in ARR and done all these fights in DF and I loved most of them. Even today I wish we had an EX trial roulette as some of them are so much fun synced. Easily the best Mentor roulette you can get when you spawn in with fresh players who have never done it.
Titan, Ramuh and Shiva as top 3 is no brainer. Shiva was much easier than the rest but I felt mechanically the fight was pretty well done.
Anyone remember normal mode garuda being a wall for many people in the story
Titan Extreme was total HELL for use Europeans cos the latency was INSANE, LAGslide was SOOOOO ANNOYING, even if you were moving ahead of time, you could still get nailed by it. "ALL ABOARD TITAN AIRWAYS!!"
thank god they moved the servers, dont have latency issues anymore lol
Honestly, I've always thought MogEx was fun. And it might not be so frustrating now that most DoTs and pet autos have been removed.
People still rock shiva weapons for glam unlike levi
it would be super interesting to see a ranking of every ex trial in the game. I've only started playing around 5.4 and the first ex trial I did was Memoria Misera. I'd love to hear how the current ex trials hold up compared to earlier ones.
I still think Titan Unreal is the hardest thing I've ever cleared. Titan in UWU is easier. Titan in Eden Savage is easier. I miss Titan Unreal, I hope they rotate Unreals back around again. It's my benchmark for a difficult fight.
Unironically harder than savage.
It's really a bit unfortunate that they nerfed Titan a couple months ago by making it so you can resurrect players who fall off. It'll take a little bit of the edge off for players freshly attempting it synced or MI/NE.
I wish they rotated them every .5 patch instead of every full patch. Or even just have old unreals available but without faux leaves rewards so if people just want to do them for fun at 90 they can.
My guess is Ravana and Thordan after Sophia if they want to do fights people will actually enjoy. Then for 7.0 they move onto Stormblood unreals
@@paradonyx7987 no way they skip zurvan though. They would not just do 2 of the warring triad and then skip the third.
I suppose we will see how our predictions turn out in a few months
The remake of thornmarch hard, no, just toss thornmarch EX into a fire... but remake of ulima's fight... maybe redo balad of ultima?
Tells me that thornmarch might be beyond redemption.
Wtf is your taste in extremes. Ifrit was one of my favorites