“With Ne, you don’t know exactly what you’re saying until you say it”; that’s super accurate. I could have Ne ideas in my head for a while, but it only really becomes concrete in my brain when I actually say it out loud or even write it down.
As an ENFP, this is super accurate. I think I need to explain this to my ENTJ friend because all she hears are some wildly fantastical ideas that have not been thoroughly thought through in a logical manner haha. I maybe need to specify that my verbal audacity to speak these things out loud comes from a need to clarify and solidly the idea and not to cause her physical pain 😅
I'm finally "post-processing" this - I agree, it was so enjoyable. Such a meaningful conversation with high quality humans. Lots of great Fi vibes going on! ~Kyle
34:19 as an INTJ I somewhat agree, that is why I like Fi types. most of the time I do know a bit of why I like things or feel things, I just won't share just bc someone wants to know. It is always nice talking with people who respect that boundary
I don't know if this applies to other Ne users or INFPs which I am. I find I'm more articulate in my head than I am when I speak. The words seem to come out awkwardly like forgetting a key word and trying to find a similar word for it. I believe it's because my mind holds so many random thoughts and it's difficult to keep to the subject at hand. Great panel!
Yeah, I am also better talking in my head. I am good at instant messenger chat though, where my Ne can get out of control, with multiple topic streams going simultaneously! (Still not as fast , and not as many multitrack streams an an Ne-Dom though)
Oh gosh! This is so interesting. I just finished watching your interview on FJ types. And there is a huge energy gap between FJs and FPs from the very beginning. Thanks Joyce. Can't wait for TJs and TPs
Thanks for having us, Joyce. This was such an organic conversation and I super enjoyed talking to all of you in the panel. And yes, everyone, this is my office and not my house. Isn’t it lovely? 😂
Agreed (as INTJ) a lot with Brady's perspective about things seeming self apparent with the Ni-Se axis and not mentioning all the context when talking with others. As well as feeling misunderstood when they don't magically pick up all the invisible context in your head. Combine that with Te, and it's not always pretty at times. I think they hit the nail on the head.
Thank you! It’s why I think gamma types can so easily converse, too, because we are coming from the same general perspective, even if the other seems upside down to us. I’m a big fan of NTJs in my life. 💪
Commenting about the Se giving highlights, Si giving step-step sensory information thing around 1:00:00 I just started college very recently as a Psychology major, and right now we're learning about memory. One of the many concepts we explored last week was the difference between selective attention and divided attention. Selective attention is essentially when you tune out as much stimuli as possible from your sensory memory, to focus more directly on something, whereas divided attention is where you are splitting your attention span into multiple things at once (like multi-tasking). Selective attention allows for better recollection of whatever you were attending to, whereas divided attention is a bit more efficient in some circumstances (for being able to do multiple things at once for e.g.) but doesn't allow for as deep of processing, and therefore the information you're dividedly attending to is harder to recollect, you'll essentially only remember highlights. I sort of speculate if high Oe/Pe types may have a harder time with selective attention (I as an Se dom know for sure I do), which is why we struggle more with giving step-by-step sensory like Si doms, as our attention is often divided, so we can only recollect highlights, whereas higher Oi/Pi types are not getting overwhelmed with as much external stimuli, or are able to engage in selective attention more easily, so therefor have better recollection abilities, or something like that.
I love all of the panelists! I didn't hear from Leon for a very long time, but my journey with type kind of started there, but I'll always remember him just saying "I don't like drama" and that's it, like, the way he says it you know he means it and that's why INFP for me are really trust-worthy. I guess sometimes you could say they nurture the high standard, but I know it's good for them to let loose, so I'm all for it
Around min 55 what jason said about how hard it is to do the thing that you need to but do not value...i feel that in my stomach...(esfp) It was such a great panel and way too short :D could have listen to it for some more hours
😂😂😂 this talk was really great and funny! As an infp i related a lot to what the guys said. I couldnt stop laughing or smiling ☺️ i wish i could see another talk with the four of them again ❤❤
Yeah!!!!!! It’s here I love the FP’s and hi Brady!!!!! The feelers are feeling it!!! Also, Brady I’m wondering about ENFP again aghhhhhh just kidding actually I am but all is well loooooved seeing you all on here!
@@sirbradfordofhousejones oh nooooooo ahhhhh triple identity crisis hahah I thought I was an ENTJ originally, but I don’t know anything anymore hahahaha. Oh shoot, it’s ok it’ll come out in the wash type shows itself so all is well. Go Brady sensory represent go!!!!!
59:00 I can feel this way about ideological views I have sometimes, where it's like I have all the Se data to support what I believe, but I don't remember in the kind of detail that I can just share it so other people see it as I do, nor would they necessarily have the same takeaway anyway because there's so much that goes into their views I don't understand and so don't know how to work around. So then sometimes I'll try to fall back on like a principle or something and the Ti types start tearing me apart on precision of meaning (not that they are being mean, but like, I'm not doing well to convey my meaning in that area against the precision of language/concepts they value). Throughout my life, I've had this thought a number of times kinda like "if I could show people why I see the world the way I do, they would understand." Which may be an Se-centric ignorance on my part thinking that's going to be enough. 1:22:00 In my case, I'll often write long online cause it's like I spend all this time taking in information and not sharing it with anyone and then I get an opportunity to make a point about something that matters to me and I'm just unloading lol. And then I'm processing it too cause I didn't take the time to process it before. So then it can become like a rant too if I'm not careful. And sometimes I write it all out and realize I didn't actually need to share it, I just needed to process something and it's not necessary to post it.
I totally do the writing-down-my-random-thoughts or questions that pop up, onto paper or notebook apps. I find I need to get it out before it disappears back into the ether. If I don’t do it right away, I may never get back to it or remember that thought. But sometimes I’ll already have a hypothesis in mind when writing my ideas and questions down. I will run it by people I know, who I think can give me feedback, seeing if I am on the right track. I mostly talk it out in my head, rather than using my actual physical voice. I need more practice using my actual voice.
Another wonderful panel Joyce! Finished watching the "NJ" types and now finished watching the "NP" types. I find these types to have Organic/Individualist nuances in common. I'm learning so much! 👏👏👏
This was great, I learned so much about each by being able to compare and contrast them and gained insights into myself. Thanks for sharing them Joyce.
It's just so interesting, because I guess I would be an "isfp", even though I don't really identify necessarily with that, it's what I'll use for the sake of conversation . I just feel like we spend so much time trying to find our identities, it almost seems like a useless endeavor, at least the way that we come up with them. I think my defining moment has been becoming a Christian, where now I can see why I do the things that I do, for example I didn't initially like traveling, but when things started to go awry I felt like I needed to leave, and after I left I decided I love traveling, so I've been traveling for about 12 years now. Well when I came to Christ I realized the reason why that was in my heart was because I was called to be a missionary. I think everything that I do now I do for the glory of God, and it's a lot more fulfilling to know that I'm doing these things for a purpose and that my identity is as a child of God, rather than a Myers-Briggs type, or enneagram type, or trying to put together a bunch of different hobbies and talents and saying this is who I am. I feel like people are always changing, especially myself so they just say I'm an isap, it just seems peculiar at this point, and I'm wondering if the ISFP feels the same way, which is why he doesn't speak too much on the depth of his identity. To me it just seems superficial or fleeting. I don't really have a super strong connection to it, because I don't necessarily think it makes me who I am. I can relate to every single type on myers-briggs, and have thought a lot of the same things as even my opposite type. I watch the video of all entps earlier and I related to about everything they were saying. I've been in the place where I just like a color, and don't know why and I was okay with that. So I just feel as though even though there seems to be commonalities between types, it's almost as if it stunts the real depth of knowing who we are, which in my opinion we were put here to serve God.
@@sirbradfordofhousejones Haha the only reason I noticed was because I'm an ESFP and I don't blink that much, same with alot of other Se doms. It's sorta like this intense unbreakable stare that shifts from one thing to another
I've heard some behaviour specialists talk about blinking (in some contexts) as evidence of thinking through multiple options, or searching through an inner catalogue to find the right thought. It's possible that I'm constantly doing that here... ;) ~Kyle
I don't agree that simulation is only Ni. We as a species are defined by our ability to simulate and mentalize - some people do it more than others (ie intuitives)...
I agree. I didn’t understand what Kyle meant there and I’m an ENFP. I always simulate and fantasise, imagine scenarios… I don’t want to do it too much before meeting people, because I don’t want to have too many expectations and create these ideas on what will happen because I think that’s stupid and I know it will happen as it does, it might turn out completely different than I imagined and I want to not have any expectations, and it makes me feel like a weirdo haha. But sometimes I can’t help but to create all these scenarios in my head, I don’t even notice myself doing it sometimes.
Yes, to clarify: this specific definition of simulation is to imagine the pathway of possibilities into the most plausible outcomes and following the flow of that plausibility pathway. So I see Ni users constantly describe simulating important conversations: "I say x, they respond with y, then I'll answer with z, and that will probably make them upset, and they'll storm off." > but it will play out as a simulation, not a "what if" analysis. (And forgive the quick example, there's probably better ones). I've noticed with my clients that Si with Ne will tend to "rehearse" more than "simulate" - a fine distinction, but together they're capable of a similar outcome (using precedent, familiarity, details and extrapolation from that base); so there's a tendency for ENFP's, at least, to care more about rehearsing in order to properly communicate their Fi sentiment, and as long as we can communicate that so the other understands, that's what matters. If they react in unexpected ways, as long as I fully understand my Fi point, I can handle unexpected responses (there's more to it, but I think it's a good example). Secondly, @aniokay, you are correct. All humans have access to Se & Ni (all 8 functions) - but the point of Myers-Briggs is to point out how there are patterns in how different humans relate to the cognitive functions. So Ni-dom's will simulate when the stakes are high, Ne-dom's will instinctively rather generate possibilities and options and nuance when the stakes are high. Thanks for pointing it out, though - the phrase definitely needed some more nuance! ~Kyle
1:23:20 INTPs don't have a sense of self? Huh.. As someone who thinks they're an INTP my sense of self has always been my understanding of the world and the way I navigate my way around it. Guess it's back into the loop for me....
4:18 whaaaaaat? Noooo Obsessed with freedom and afraid of anything remotely restrictive? Nope, not me! 😁 Definitely didn't have an "I wish I could move out at 15" phase 😅 Luckily my Te was developed enough that I had a tough time self-justifying the ludicrous Ne-Fi idea So I just kept it to myself and I eventually grew out of it 🤷♀️ And at some point I had to realize that restrictions themselves can actually be the means towards achieving freedom from my own procrastination tendencies and technology addictions, and that having them helps manage my ADD.
5:09 YES The fact that I am still a teenager does not help with muting the Fi angst lol. I enjoy some edgy hard rock/metal every now and then Just kidding lol I listen to that crap 24/7 5:25 actually I don't feel that too much. I think that since I have an actual diagnosis to tie towards feeling like the world isn't built for you (I have ADD), I've realized that I'm much happier when I'm not thinking about how bad I've got it. I find that I'm much more productive not feeling like "woe is me, everyone wants me to fail, the world is built against me". I'm obviously not going to "un-ADHD" my brain and I'm definitely not capable of redesigning society in it's entirety during my lifetime to fit neurodivergent people, so I might as well stop pouting and focus on what I _do_ have instead of what I don't. Also there's an element of me that thinks I have no right to feel oppressed when I'm literally a privileged white person in a first world country. I'm anything BUT "disadvantaged" in this world, and there's no use wasting this amazing opportunity by complaining about how terrible it is that I have a place to sleep and clean water. Aaaaand now I sound like my parents. Great. 😅 I think that as my Te has developed, my tendency to victimize myself (however justified) has slowly diminished.
ESTPs and ISTPs give the rock n roll symbol. 🤘 The rock n roll symbol is not an ESFP stereotype. It's actually an ESTP and ISTP stereotype thing. ESFPs are actually stereotyped giving the peace symbol or surf's up dude symbol.✌️🤙
“With Ne, you don’t know exactly what you’re saying until you say it”; that’s super accurate. I could have Ne ideas in my head for a while, but it only really becomes concrete in my brain when I actually say it out loud or even write it down.
Lol, I always delete and repost comments at least thrice because I realise how weird they sound only after seeing them in "tangible" form.
As an ENFP, this is super accurate. I think I need to explain this to my ENTJ friend because all she hears are some wildly fantastical ideas that have not been thoroughly thought through in a logical manner haha.
I maybe need to specify that my verbal audacity to speak these things out loud comes from a need to clarify and solidly the idea and not to cause her physical pain 😅
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That's why we love and appreciate people who will go on stream of consciousness conversational journeys with us❤🎉
I had such a great time on the show, Joyce! We all really bonded on here, thank you for providing the environment for that.
I'm finally "post-processing" this - I agree, it was so enjoyable. Such a meaningful conversation with high quality humans. Lots of great Fi vibes going on! ~Kyle
34:19 as an INTJ I somewhat agree, that is why I like Fi types. most of the time I do know a bit of why I like things or feel things, I just won't share just bc someone wants to know. It is always nice talking with people who respect that boundary
I don't know if this applies to other Ne users or INFPs which I am. I find I'm more articulate in my head than I am when I speak. The words seem to come out awkwardly like forgetting a key word and trying to find a similar word for it. I believe it's because my mind holds so many random thoughts and it's difficult to keep to the subject at hand. Great panel!
Totally agree!
I have the exact same problem lol
Yeah, I am also better talking in my head. I am good at instant messenger chat though, where my Ne can get out of control, with multiple topic streams going simultaneously! (Still not as fast , and not as many multitrack streams an an Ne-Dom though)
I think INFP articulate very well; you just have super high expectations and are too hard on yourself.
Joyce is very studiously saving the "All TJ types" for last, I think #TePolR
Oh gosh! This is so interesting. I just finished watching your interview on FJ types. And there is a huge energy gap between FJs and FPs from the very beginning. Thanks Joyce. Can't wait for TJs and TPs
Thanks for having us, Joyce. This was such an organic conversation and I super enjoyed talking to all of you in the panel. And yes, everyone, this is my office and not my house. Isn’t it lovely? 😂
Brady I totally feel you with the “I want to include all people in the friend group”🤣
1:22:15 Spot on about Fi doesn't want to misrepresent itself and that's why they elaborate that much.
Agreed (as INTJ) a lot with Brady's perspective about things seeming self apparent with the Ni-Se axis and not mentioning all the context when talking with others. As well as feeling misunderstood when they don't magically pick up all the invisible context in your head. Combine that with Te, and it's not always pretty at times. I think they hit the nail on the head.
Thank you! It’s why I think gamma types can so easily converse, too, because we are coming from the same general perspective, even if the other seems upside down to us. I’m a big fan of NTJs in my life. 💪
I'm an INTP and also identify with this
Commenting about the Se giving highlights, Si giving step-step sensory information thing around 1:00:00
I just started college very recently as a Psychology major, and right now we're learning about memory. One of the many concepts we explored last week was the difference between selective attention and divided attention.
Selective attention is essentially when you tune out as much stimuli as possible from your sensory memory, to focus more directly on something, whereas divided attention is where you are splitting your attention span into multiple things at once (like multi-tasking). Selective attention allows for better recollection of whatever you were attending to, whereas divided attention is a bit more efficient in some circumstances (for being able to do multiple things at once for e.g.) but doesn't allow for as deep of processing, and therefore the information you're dividedly attending to is harder to recollect, you'll essentially only remember highlights.
I sort of speculate if high Oe/Pe types may have a harder time with selective attention (I as an Se dom know for sure I do), which is why we struggle more with giving step-by-step sensory like Si doms, as our attention is often divided, so we can only recollect highlights, whereas higher Oi/Pi types are not getting overwhelmed with as much external stimuli, or are able to engage in selective attention more easily, so therefor have better recollection abilities, or something like that.
I love all of the panelists! I didn't hear from Leon for a very long time, but my journey with type kind of started there, but I'll always remember him just saying "I don't like drama" and that's it, like, the way he says it you know he means it and that's why INFP for me are really trust-worthy. I guess sometimes you could say they nurture the high standard, but I know it's good for them to let loose, so I'm all for it
Oh shiz this should be fun! Fi here we go!...
update: yup, only two minutes in and it already lived upto the Fi fun hype as expected. Well done FPs
Around min 55 what jason said about how hard it is to do the thing that you need to but do not value...i feel that in my stomach...(esfp)
It was such a great panel and way too short :D could have listen to it for some more hours
😂😂😂 this talk was really great and funny! As an infp i related a lot to what the guys said. I couldnt stop laughing or smiling ☺️ i wish i could see another talk with the four of them again ❤❤
I feel like I can relate to ISFP more than anything.
Like how the esfp never fails to make everyone laugh 😂😂 always admire their confidence
Can’t wait to read everyone’s books! Great, funny and charming panel 🌷🐇
Yeah!!!!!! It’s here I love the FP’s and hi Brady!!!!! The feelers are feeling it!!! Also, Brady I’m wondering about ENFP again aghhhhhh just kidding actually I am but all is well loooooved seeing you all on here!
Oh no, Jula!!! Possibly you are a Te dom and we’ve been too attached to the Se/Ne dom thing?! And thanks for saying hi. 👋
@@sirbradfordofhousejones oh nooooooo ahhhhh triple identity crisis hahah I thought I was an ENTJ originally, but I don’t know anything anymore hahahaha. Oh shoot, it’s ok it’ll come out in the wash type shows itself so all is well. Go Brady sensory represent go!!!!!
Can’t wait for the isfp book 💜
59:00 I can feel this way about ideological views I have sometimes, where it's like I have all the Se data to support what I believe, but I don't remember in the kind of detail that I can just share it so other people see it as I do, nor would they necessarily have the same takeaway anyway because there's so much that goes into their views I don't understand and so don't know how to work around. So then sometimes I'll try to fall back on like a principle or something and the Ti types start tearing me apart on precision of meaning (not that they are being mean, but like, I'm not doing well to convey my meaning in that area against the precision of language/concepts they value). Throughout my life, I've had this thought a number of times kinda like "if I could show people why I see the world the way I do, they would understand." Which may be an Se-centric ignorance on my part thinking that's going to be enough.
1:22:00 In my case, I'll often write long online cause it's like I spend all this time taking in information and not sharing it with anyone and then I get an opportunity to make a point about something that matters to me and I'm just unloading lol. And then I'm processing it too cause I didn't take the time to process it before. So then it can become like a rant too if I'm not careful. And sometimes I write it all out and realize I didn't actually need to share it, I just needed to process something and it's not necessary to post it.
I totally do the writing-down-my-random-thoughts or questions that pop up, onto paper or notebook apps. I find I need to get it out before it disappears back into the ether. If I don’t do it right away, I may never get back to it or remember that thought. But sometimes I’ll already have a hypothesis in mind when writing my ideas and questions down. I will run it by people I know, who I think can give me feedback, seeing if I am on the right track. I mostly talk it out in my head, rather than using my actual physical voice. I need more practice using my actual voice.
Beautiful, thank you all ❤️
Another wonderful panel Joyce! Finished watching the "NJ" types and now finished watching the "NP" types. I find these types to have Organic/Individualist nuances in common. I'm learning so much! 👏👏👏
Really great talk! Enjoyed it. :)
Great stream!!! Thank you.
This was great, I learned so much about each by being able to compare and contrast them and gained insights into myself. Thanks for sharing them Joyce.
It's just so interesting, because I guess I would be an "isfp", even though I don't really identify necessarily with that, it's what I'll use for the sake of conversation . I just feel like we spend so much time trying to find our identities, it almost seems like a useless endeavor, at least the way that we come up with them. I think my defining moment has been becoming a Christian, where now I can see why I do the things that I do, for example I didn't initially like traveling, but when things started to go awry I felt like I needed to leave, and after I left I decided I love traveling, so I've been traveling for about 12 years now. Well when I came to Christ I realized the reason why that was in my heart was because I was called to be a missionary. I think everything that I do now I do for the glory of God, and it's a lot more fulfilling to know that I'm doing these things for a purpose and that my identity is as a child of God, rather than a Myers-Briggs type, or enneagram type, or trying to put together a bunch of different hobbies and talents and saying this is who I am. I feel like people are always changing, especially myself so they just say I'm an isap, it just seems peculiar at this point, and I'm wondering if the ISFP feels the same way, which is why he doesn't speak too much on the depth of his identity. To me it just seems superficial or fleeting. I don't really have a super strong connection to it, because I don't necessarily think it makes me who I am. I can relate to every single type on myers-briggs, and have thought a lot of the same things as even my opposite type. I watch the video of all entps earlier and I related to about everything they were saying. I've been in the place where I just like a color, and don't know why and I was okay with that. So I just feel as though even though there seems to be commonalities between types, it's almost as if it stunts the real depth of knowing who we are, which in my opinion we were put here to serve God.
2:42 can confirm, my ESFP friend does this on a regular basis.
In fact let me check...
Yep, she's stuck like that.
I noticed that Kyle (ENFP) and Joyce blinked quite a lot in comparison to Brady. I wonder if it's something to do with dominant sensing vs intuition
Its dominant Se, I’m telling you! Scanning the environment for physical clues- gotta be alert 👀
Also, I feel watched haha
@@sirbradfordofhousejones Haha the only reason I noticed was because I'm an ESFP and I don't blink that much, same with alot of other Se doms. It's sorta like this intense unbreakable stare that shifts from one thing to another
@@ficonicc7935 Se eyes! It’s a very weird, yet consistent trait I’ve noticed, as well. But the blinking is one I haven’t looked for yet.
I've heard some behaviour specialists talk about blinking (in some contexts) as evidence of thinking through multiple options, or searching through an inner catalogue to find the right thought. It's possible that I'm constantly doing that here... ;) ~Kyle
I don't agree that simulation is only Ni. We as a species are defined by our ability to simulate and mentalize - some people do it more than others (ie intuitives)...
I agree. I didn’t understand what Kyle meant there and I’m an ENFP. I always simulate and fantasise, imagine scenarios… I don’t want to do it too much before meeting people, because I don’t want to have too many expectations and create these ideas on what will happen because I think that’s stupid and I know it will happen as it does, it might turn out completely different than I imagined and I want to not have any expectations, and it makes me feel like a weirdo haha. But sometimes I can’t help but to create all these scenarios in my head, I don’t even notice myself doing it sometimes.
Yes, to clarify: this specific definition of simulation is to imagine the pathway of possibilities into the most plausible outcomes and following the flow of that plausibility pathway. So I see Ni users constantly describe simulating important conversations: "I say x, they respond with y, then I'll answer with z, and that will probably make them upset, and they'll storm off." > but it will play out as a simulation, not a "what if" analysis. (And forgive the quick example, there's probably better ones).
I've noticed with my clients that Si with Ne will tend to "rehearse" more than "simulate" - a fine distinction, but together they're capable of a similar outcome (using precedent, familiarity, details and extrapolation from that base); so there's a tendency for ENFP's, at least, to care more about rehearsing in order to properly communicate their Fi sentiment, and as long as we can communicate that so the other understands, that's what matters. If they react in unexpected ways, as long as I fully understand my Fi point, I can handle unexpected responses (there's more to it, but I think it's a good example).
Secondly, @aniokay, you are correct. All humans have access to Se & Ni (all 8 functions) - but the point of Myers-Briggs is to point out how there are patterns in how different humans relate to the cognitive functions. So Ni-dom's will simulate when the stakes are high, Ne-dom's will instinctively rather generate possibilities and options and nuance when the stakes are high.
Thanks for pointing it out, though - the phrase definitely needed some more nuance!
~Kyle
1:23:20 INTPs don't have a sense of self? Huh..
As someone who thinks they're an INTP my sense of self has always been my understanding of the world and the way I navigate my way around it.
Guess it's back into the loop for me....
4:18 whaaaaaat? Noooo
Obsessed with freedom and afraid of anything remotely restrictive? Nope, not me! 😁
Definitely didn't have an "I wish I could move out at 15" phase 😅
Luckily my Te was developed enough that I had a tough time self-justifying the ludicrous Ne-Fi idea
So I just kept it to myself and I eventually grew out of it 🤷♀️
And at some point I had to realize that restrictions themselves can actually be the means towards achieving freedom from my own procrastination tendencies and technology addictions, and that having them helps manage my ADD.
INFP/Leon: "I just thought of some more stuff to talk about."
INFP/Me: 😂
5:09 YES
The fact that I am still a teenager does not help with muting the Fi angst lol.
I enjoy some edgy hard rock/metal every now and then
Just kidding lol I listen to that crap 24/7
5:25 actually I don't feel that too much. I think that since I have an actual diagnosis to tie towards feeling like the world isn't built for you (I have ADD), I've realized that I'm much happier when I'm not thinking about how bad I've got it. I find that I'm much more productive not feeling like "woe is me, everyone wants me to fail, the world is built against me". I'm obviously not going to "un-ADHD" my brain and I'm definitely not capable of redesigning society in it's entirety during my lifetime to fit neurodivergent people, so I might as well stop pouting and focus on what I _do_ have instead of what I don't. Also there's an element of me that thinks I have no right to feel oppressed when I'm literally a privileged white person in a first world country. I'm anything BUT "disadvantaged" in this world, and there's no use wasting this amazing opportunity by complaining about how terrible it is that I have a place to sleep and clean water. Aaaaand now I sound like my parents. Great. 😅
I think that as my Te has developed, my tendency to victimize myself (however justified) has slowly diminished.
ESTPs and ISTPs give the rock n roll symbol. 🤘 The rock n roll symbol is not an ESFP stereotype. It's actually an ESTP and ISTP stereotype thing. ESFPs are actually stereotyped giving the peace symbol or surf's up dude symbol.✌️🤙