To anyone who thinks Ratio actually betrayed Aventurine here, Aven's final dialogue with Acheron after the final fight shows that that wasn't the case, and that what actually happened was either: 1. Ratio and Aventurine put on that whole sequence as an act to make Sunday believe he had the aventurine cornerstone, when in fact what Sunday seized was the jade cornerstone. 2. Ratio actually did betray Aventurine, but Aventurine was banking on that to happen to make his plan work (and knowing Ratio, he probably figured out Aven needed him to betray him. After all, if he really didn't desire to work with Aventurine anymore, why would he give him the doctor's advice?). Edit: Also, why would Ratio rat Aventurine out for information about a Stellaron? The man has 8 doctorates, the funding of the IPC, and is acquaintances with someone who has a Stellaron in their body. He is perfectly capable of studying Stellarons himself if he wants to.
@pforgottonsoul yeah, but I'm saying this because some people did the quest without understanding the dialogues and proceed to spread misinformation. Well if you haven't done the quest then that's fine
Y’all saw one scene and immediately judge. They were obviously acting. Ratio betraying him was one of the possible branches for this 4d chess. They clearly have an amazing relationship for ratio to even understand what aventurine’s plan is. Ratio cares for aventurine but you can’t tell bc of the EN translations
@@akarifuyuki9763 well apparently when Ratio calls Aventurine dear gambler in EN it's actually damn gambler in CN. Everything is a bit half and half, but ultimately Ratio actually cares about Aventurine. This is the guy who absolutely hates idiots, he has no reason to stick around or even humor Aventurine.
Some peeps need to pay more attention to how Dr. Ratio purposely chose to put down the Jade cornerstone in front of Sunday in order to misled him into believing that was the Aventurine stone. And being a certified genius, it's highly improbable for him to mistake the two cornerstones.
Can't believe there's a bunch of people spreading their hatred for Ratio without actually finishing the quest. If you don't have time to do the main quest, I have a hint for you all: Rewatch 2.1's PV and look closely at Aventurine's Cornerstone, then come back and compare it with the one in this cutscene.
@@Iku03 I noticed the neither of those two stone was Aventurine's Cornerstone and it gave me goosebumps. The atmostphere, the act and the writing were sooooo good 😭 How could they interprete it as "an arrogant man and his stupid betrayal"!!!!!!!!!!
lol meanwhile i stayed up until 4am finishing the entire quest to know what happened. yall need to play the entirety with this kind of story before jumping to conclusions smh
@@haroldtheylez I also spent my whole afternoon finishing the quest despite of a bunch of deadlines waiting for me... But I'm sastified with what Hoyoverse gave me, they always cook 🔥
Maybe Ratio is pulling an Alhaitham-level act. Pretending to betray Aventurine, but is actually gaining Sunday's trust to get closer to him and steal all of the possessions back, while screwing with the Family.
Well after I finish the story. I think Dr. Ratio give Aventurine an item that will save him from death at the same time aventurine will be free from being a slave for IPC.
the amount of people who haven’t played the game and are judging is INSANE cuz you could just play the game and know it’s not really betrayal but a plan from them both. im taking no ratio slander mhmmhm
@@venesse12no, the stones are very much real, this required a lot of trust from both Jade and Topaz…. That of which they will start carrying out their (revenge) harvest now
@@yumirui_1130 You're forgetting that he's originally from the Intelligentia Guild, which is notorious for putting a price on knowledge, and that price will be anything as long as the information is valuable for them. And since there have been no drops of the origin of Stellaron all throughout the story, which means the information about it is still limited, and varies for each faction. However, the main tipping point was when he realized he was also tricked by Aventurine's schemes. So yeah, this whole planet is just a dreamland full of trust issues.
@@runaway1635 he knew exactly what he was doing lol? Tell that to him not only earning the complete distrust of Sunday, but also losing both his AND Topaz's cornerstone. You're giving this fruity Sigonian peacock more credit than he deserves. But I guess that's why he needed Hanabi's help 'cus he overreaching. 🤡
@@Evil_Beauty I don't wanna talk to someone who has no understanding of the story. Stay in your hateworld lol 😂😂 He achieved his purpose. Everything was according to his plan. He gambled and won. But if u are hell bent on hating him at any cost then go ahead lol
@@runaway1635 You sound SO triggered that it's literally showing through your comments. 🤣😂 Don't worry booboo. You're allowed your own headcanon. Here take some copium 'L' + Ratio. 🤡
as if being demoted after Bronya did the talk no jutsu right before she tried to unleash her own transformation wasn't enough (though considering Acheron or another Emanator wasn't with the group in Jarilo-VI, it was a good thing for them)
Are they like acting ? Because there’s a bird up there watching and no one bats an eye on it 😣. When Gallagher* killed(?) Sunday, the bird was there too
When this first happened I was BEGGING for it to be a fake, I was so upset, and then I was really happy when I was right! They have to be amazing actors to fool someone monitoring them 24/7 from the moment they entered Penacony.
Well, I don’t like you Adventurine but now I kind hate Sunday a lot more because hypocrisy. Here is a tips. Go and find Acheron. If she truly have the power of finality, you can cut a deal with her.
Why the hate on Sunday lol? He did NOTHING wrong here. 😂 Aventurine was the one who lied from the start. And he paid the price when he bargained Topaz's cornerstone and LOST both hers AND his. 🤣
Just like with the case of the Firefly x Trailblazer ship? I laughed my arse off after they just witnessed their ship sunk faster than the Titanic. 🤣 P.S. Also, didn't Aventurine called Sunday, "handsome" lol? I would thought people be shipping them together BEFORE Ratio. 😂
Some people are just stupid smh The reason Topaz, Jade, and Aventurine planned to let the family have their cornerstone was just so the IPC had a reason to storm Penacony. SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER With an ambassador of the IPC (Aventurine) "dead" and all three cornerstones with the family, the IPC will reclaim penacony by force.
Diamond is the emanator, but as stated, suppose he can borrow emanator powers....which seems to be some sort of chain to the aeon The Aeon, the emanator, then another borrower
@@Kian-fm4uk Ratio said the Cornerstones are more important than the wearers and they know that, plus the 10 Stonehearts aren't exactly on good terms. You think Topaz and Jade would just hand such important thing to Aventurine? Just saying, there's a reason why I say Aventurine "took" them. Cuz from the dreams, it showed that Aventurine got punished.
@@esmondgoh3112Nah it was definitely planned or else Topaz would be way more agitated instead of just sitting around. She is literally waiting for Aventurine to give an opening to her and the IPC
@@cannibalman8175 how do you know she's just "sitting around"? I bet you, Jade and Topaz will come to Penacony to look for Aventurine. Don't say I spoiled you, I've basically hinted about this on my previous comment.
Cornerstone was a gambling chip. Both jade and topaz gave Aventurine their cornerstones… they bet on aventurine to win because they trust his good luck!
![So, uh... 𝔗𝔥𝔢 Herta is kinda cracked for this account [Honkai: Star Rail Erudition Only]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2kcbie5sbNE/mqdefault.jpg)
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To anyone who thinks Ratio actually betrayed Aventurine here, Aven's final dialogue with Acheron after the final fight shows that that wasn't the case, and that what actually happened was either:
1. Ratio and Aventurine put on that whole sequence as an act to make Sunday believe he had the aventurine cornerstone, when in fact what Sunday seized was the jade cornerstone.
2. Ratio actually did betray Aventurine, but Aventurine was banking on that to happen to make his plan work (and knowing Ratio, he probably figured out Aven needed him to betray him. After all, if he really didn't desire to work with Aventurine anymore, why would he give him the doctor's advice?).
Edit: Also, why would Ratio rat Aventurine out for information about a Stellaron? The man has 8 doctorates, the funding of the IPC, and is acquaintances with someone who has a Stellaron in their body. He is perfectly capable of studying Stellarons himself if he wants to.
Nicely explained!!!🎉
Finally someone explained it, thank you
Sunday feel so creepy in this cutscenes
He gave off more villain vibes than Aventurine😭
@@cannibalman8175 Fr it's like ayato if he's a villain
@@cannibalman8175Cuz he maybe is? There’s no pure good guy here. Everyone has dirty hands. Everyone is morally grey.
I hate this mannnn “you are free” 😭😭
You all need to focus while reading the dialogues cause Aventurine and Ratio literally planned this to happen
that wasn't revealed till afterwards though right?
@pforgottonsoul yeah, but I'm saying this because some people did the quest without understanding the dialogues and proceed to spread misinformation.
Well if you haven't done the quest then that's fine
So ratio did not betray aventurine right?
thumbs up this comment if you actually finished the quest and know that ratios “betrayal” was faked and planned by aventurine
Y’all saw one scene and immediately judge. They were obviously acting. Ratio betraying him was one of the possible branches for this 4d chess. They clearly have an amazing relationship for ratio to even understand what aventurine’s plan is. Ratio cares for aventurine but you can’t tell bc of the EN translations
If Ratio doesn't care, he wouldn't give him Doctor's Advice
@@akarifuyuki9763 exactly
I don't use EN, but it seems they sound more hostile?
@@akarifuyuki9763 well apparently when Ratio calls Aventurine dear gambler in EN it's actually damn gambler in CN.
Everything is a bit half and half, but ultimately Ratio actually cares about Aventurine. This is the guy who absolutely hates idiots, he has no reason to stick around or even humor Aventurine.
@@leshruggmeshruggs4592 Dear and damn..... not close at all
Some peeps need to pay more attention to how Dr. Ratio purposely chose to put down the Jade cornerstone in front of Sunday in order to misled him into believing that was the Aventurine stone. And being a certified genius, it's highly improbable for him to mistake the two cornerstones.
2.1 is giving everyone trust issues 💀
Can't believe there's a bunch of people spreading their hatred for Ratio without actually finishing the quest. If you don't have time to do the main quest, I have a hint for you all: Rewatch 2.1's PV and look closely at Aventurine's Cornerstone, then come back and compare it with the one in this cutscene.
Ikr they should have done the quest first before spreading misinformation
@@Iku03 I noticed the neither of those two stone was Aventurine's Cornerstone and it gave me goosebumps. The atmostphere, the act and the writing were sooooo good 😭 How could they interprete it as "an arrogant man and his stupid betrayal"!!!!!!!!!!
lol meanwhile i stayed up until 4am finishing the entire quest to know what happened. yall need to play the entirety with this kind of story before jumping to conclusions smh
@@haroldtheylez I also spent my whole afternoon finishing the quest despite of a bunch of deadlines waiting for me... But I'm sastified with what Hoyoverse gave me, they always cook 🔥
aeon of media illiteracy strikes again
Maybe Ratio is pulling an Alhaitham-level act. Pretending to betray Aventurine, but is actually gaining Sunday's trust to get closer to him and steal all of the possessions back, while screwing with the Family.
well no
Well after I finish the story. I think Dr. Ratio give Aventurine an item that will save him from death at the same time aventurine will be free from being a slave for IPC.
Just finished the quest and wow. You were right… it was all a part of Aventurine and Ratio’s plan. Hoyo always cooks.
@@elizabethwalker5367Holy shit, does Penacony become Classroom of the Elite or what
More the reason why they’re both similar to each other, lmao
He forget that never trust smart arrogant guys🔥
He's so narcissistic for that so fr
It was an act, it was their plan 😭 scroll up to see the explanations
dumb ahh, i hate people like you
the amount of people who haven’t played the game and are judging is INSANE cuz you could just play the game and know it’s not really betrayal but a plan from them both. im taking no ratio slander mhmmhm
There is a reason why Dr. Ratio calls people idiots sometimes 😂
Can't believe adventure time was a uchiha all along
does everyone in the replies who's mad at him illiterate or what, are we even playing the same quest?
They clearly haven’t played the quest nor have they watched enough gameplay of this quest to even tell that this was an act😂
They didn’t play through the rest of the quest, obviously. Or they skipped it.
Aventurine was fuckin playin 3D chess in penacony
Never let this doctor get the better of you that you even willing to trust him. He is genius enough to even betray Aventurine.
lol....aventurine planned it
They played 4d chess they acted like parodys of themselves to let Sunday's guard down
Laughs in Gallager
They actually are playing 4D chess. This was apart of aventurnies & ratios plan. Aventurine handed the jade stone rather than the aventurine stone.
It was an act, it was their plan 😭 scroll up to see the explanations
Never let this man cook again
Who? Shaoji? 😂 I think he's doing a pretty good job. Could use a bit more salt, tho. If you know what I mean. 🤣
@@Evil_Beautyig they mean ratio
@@kmh4076 Ratio can't "cook", tho. He's a scholarly, "doctor". 😆
WDYM, Ratio always cooks up a 5 star meal
Wait a second. Dr. Ratio is still with the IPC. There's no way he'd stab the IPC in the back as well. Even he knows that
spoiler
it was plan. the stones are fake
@@venesse12no, the stones are very much real, this required a lot of trust from both Jade and Topaz…. That of which they will start carrying out their (revenge) harvest now
@@venesse12 the stone are real, but it not aventurine’s stone
Penacony at this point has become Classroom of the Elite but we don’t know who the Ayanokoji is
Maybe the real Ayanokoji was the friends we made along the way.
@@yukio_wp Bruh…
The Watchmaker
Aventurine got ratio'ed.
AND ITS ALL AN ACTTTTTTTTTTTT🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
For real
First Alhaitham and now Dr Ratio. The "smart scholar" characters always have crazy acting skills
Im always team aventurine it doesn't matter sunday is creepy af like did you see that smile nah im staying 6 feet away from him
Ratio is a national treasure lmao 😂
Did you all just watch a part of the quest on youtube and called it a day? How did so many of you missed that this is just an act 😂
i love ratio
Wow, just for a stellaron info Ratio got to betray Aventurine.. wow, I'm speechless.
I wish he wasn't that easy to be convinced... Just for the stellaron information.
Pffft no wonder he doesn't get Nous gaze
@@yumirui_1130 You're forgetting that he's originally from the Intelligentia Guild, which is notorious for putting a price on knowledge, and that price will be anything as long as the information is valuable for them. And since there have been no drops of the origin of Stellaron all throughout the story, which means the information about it is still limited, and varies for each faction. However, the main tipping point was when he realized he was also tricked by Aventurine's schemes. So yeah, this whole planet is just a dreamland full of trust issues.
Spoiler
The stones were fake because they are protected by Jade so it’s all a big plan
@@xiaolv1836Most if not all Genius Society do worse and get Nous's gaze.
I was so ready to call him Dr. Rat before the reveal.
dumb ahh, play the quest again if you lack media literacy bc all of this was an act
Never trust a smart guy
Nah. More like, never trust a gambler with a bad fashion sense who overestimate his abilities. 😂
@@Evil_Beauty overestimate? He knew exactly what he was doing 😂
U haven't done the quest have u?
@@runaway1635 he knew exactly what he was doing lol? Tell that to him not only earning the complete distrust of Sunday, but also losing both his AND Topaz's cornerstone. You're giving this fruity Sigonian peacock more credit than he deserves. But I guess that's why he needed Hanabi's help 'cus he overreaching. 🤡
@@Evil_Beauty I don't wanna talk to someone who has no understanding of the story. Stay in your hateworld lol 😂😂
He achieved his purpose. Everything was according to his plan. He gambled and won. But if u are hell bent on hating him at any cost then go ahead lol
@@runaway1635 You sound SO triggered that it's literally showing through your comments. 🤣😂 Don't worry booboo. You're allowed your own headcanon. Here take some copium 'L' + Ratio. 🤡
So topaz lost her stone too 💀 nice going, adventurine
as if being demoted after Bronya did the talk no jutsu right before she tried to unleash her own transformation wasn't enough (though considering Acheron or another Emanator wasn't with the group in Jarilo-VI, it was a good thing for them)
Spoiler
Nope because all that stone is fake their real stone is protected by jade
@@akaneaoi8115
If you don’t me asking, did Ratio really betray Aventurine?? I’m fine if you’re going to tell me spoilers
@@Ave-xk3owspoiler
No
@@venesse12
Oh Jeez, now I can sleep peacefully. Tysm 🙏
Are they like acting ? Because there’s a bird up there watching and no one bats an eye on it 😣. When Gallagher* killed(?) Sunday, the bird was there too
Birb at 10:04
I thought that was Sunday's bird? If not, I wonder whose using that bird
Instead of being annoyed people are hating on Ratio without finishing the quest, I actually find it hilarious. I don't know why 🤣
When this first happened I was BEGGING for it to be a fake, I was so upset, and then I was really happy when I was right! They have to be amazing actors to fool someone monitoring them 24/7 from the moment they entered Penacony.
Adventurine sure got ratio+L
Guys how do I delete Dr Ratio from my account?
HAHAHAHAHAHA HELP
I’m so angry with him rn
Yep me too please😂 He sucks(for me) I hate his condescending and unnecessarily extra words, how can ppl enjoy him.
How to delete him? By taking an L + Ratio? 😂 Oh, wait. You actually meant to get rid of him. Same method. Press, and hold 'L' + Ratio. 🤣
Play further in the story. They’re working together… ain’t no way ratio is gonna sacrifice his job like that 😂
i feel so bad for Aventurine
It was his plan, Ratio didn’t actually betray him
Is that bird the meme of death?
Ratio how dare you betray adventurine
did you even finish the quest
Well, I don’t like you Adventurine but now I kind hate Sunday a lot more because hypocrisy.
Here is a tips. Go and find Acheron. If she truly have the power of finality, you can cut a deal with her.
Don't worry Gallagher has deal with him💀
She's not pawn of finality, she's the emanator of nihility
Yo is adventurine dead
Why the hate on Sunday lol? He did NOTHING wrong here. 😂 Aventurine was the one who lied from the start. And he paid the price when he bargained Topaz's cornerstone and LOST both hers AND his. 🤣
@@Saniusmanbdjyes
"As for the villain" , bro you're acting like one 😭
I LOVE SUNDAY AOSBAISGUWBSHSJWBS ❤❤
ngl after this cutscene people shipping ratio and aventurine makes it even bad. but well ratio was literally racist to him since day 1💀
Damn...that's not good
REAL 😭
they're gonna ship sunday and ratio next
Just like with the case of the Firefly x Trailblazer ship? I laughed my arse off after they just witnessed their ship sunk faster than the Titanic. 🤣
P.S.
Also, didn't Aventurine called Sunday, "handsome" lol? I would thought people be shipping them together BEFORE Ratio. 😂
@@Evil_Beauty lmao everyone will call the other ships toxic BUT they will support Firefly x Tb
Some people are just stupid smh The reason Topaz, Jade, and Aventurine planned to let the family have their cornerstone was just so the IPC had a reason to storm Penacony.
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
With an ambassador of the IPC (Aventurine) "dead" and all three cornerstones with the family, the IPC will reclaim penacony by force.
Dr Ratio: What a mediocre!
I hated watching Sunday & dr Ratio bullying my Aventurine😢❤
Is dr ratio know about argenti?
время назад был слив что аргенти прибудет на пенаконию в какой-то момент так что у них есть шанс
@@ytrutinq5864 Спасибо
Dr Ratio got that Shanks status bro ate the Stitch-Snitch fruit Model: Rat
Adventurine got L+Ratioed
This is why im not a fan of Ratio's arrogant personality.
Tell me your opinion on him after you finish the quest lmao
He did planned this whole ordeal to fool Sunday and even you fall for it, lmao.
Wait, is aventurine the emanator of preservation?
Diamond is the emanator, but as stated, suppose he can borrow emanator powers....which seems to be some sort of chain to the aeon
The Aeon, the emanator, then another borrower
no he's not, but he can borrow emanator's power with his cornerstone
no its jade. the pink girl!
He’s just someone that can borrow the power of Preservation emanator, like the generals of Luofu can borrow the power of Hunt emanator
Pseudo Emanator i would say
Wait so does that mean aventurine is dead?????😭
yes
@@inessladia5747 be fr
What?????
Holy shot...i hope he doesn't have really died
@@Anlous-i1k true
Fucking Aventurine took Topaz's cornerstone
No topaz give it to aventurine and jade too
@@Kian-fm4uk Ratio said the Cornerstones are more important than the wearers and they know that, plus the 10 Stonehearts aren't exactly on good terms.
You think Topaz and Jade would just hand such important thing to Aventurine?
Just saying, there's a reason why I say Aventurine "took" them. Cuz from the dreams, it showed that Aventurine got punished.
@@esmondgoh3112Nah it was definitely planned or else Topaz would be way more agitated instead of just sitting around. She is literally waiting for Aventurine to give an opening to her and the IPC
@@cannibalman8175 how do you know she's just "sitting around"?
I bet you, Jade and Topaz will come to Penacony to look for Aventurine.
Don't say I spoiled you, I've basically hinted about this on my previous comment.
Cornerstone was a gambling chip. Both jade and topaz gave Aventurine their cornerstones… they bet on aventurine to win because they trust his good luck!
Are the aventio shippers in the room with us rn? 🧍♀️
NUH UH
AventDay, anyone? 🤣
Im not but i fell bad for them
Yes I am here
barely surviving actually… (it’s okay it’s more angst potential i say as i cope)