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- Follow along as Matt and Tony find, purchase, and upgrade their new Piper Lance II!
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What do you guys think, did we make the right choice?
We just bought ours too! (Video on my channel). Congrats.
New content let's go👍
Yes!
Absolutely!
Absolutely ....th-cam.com/video/dS_K4Us5-mY/w-d-xo.html
Glad to see dad made the video ha couldn't have gone to better folks! Hope you guys enjoy it as much as we did!!!
We had a Lance for ten years. We liked how roomy it was with forward and aft baggage allowance totaling 200 lbs. We got about 155 knots true at 66% power and 16.5 gph. We ran 75 degrees rick of peak. It was dependable and easy to work on and we did owner assisted annuals for a very reasonable price. Non owners can't appreciate how great it is to load the wife and pets and be airborne in ten minutes without going thru security etc. Pilots who say retractable gear is expensive, don't know what they are talking about for this Piper product. Airplanes are so very expensive now in fall of 2022. I like the fact the Saratoga glides farther than the Lance but they start at 250k. I believe you all made a wise decision.
If you're happy with the airplane, you made the right choice and judging by the excitement and enthusiasm in your video, you most definitely did. I hope you get thousands of hours of use from your new plane.
Excellent choice. Have owned T-tail since 1982.
Great choice guy! I’m in the same position and yes wanted a pressurized twin but that doesn’t make sense right now. I will be doing the exact same thing you guys did. Just need to finish my instrument and commercial. 408 hrs TT for me right now and really close to scheduling my ifr check ride. Congratulations on the new bird have fun fly safe.
Piper turbo saratoga is hands down the best single engine piston you can get to do almost everything. Improved wing and traditional location stabilator. At least you can actually get two people across in the back of the lance, a bonanza is a joke!
Flew a turbo lance 300 on a few charters. They were fine but carry a few extra knots while landing.
Congratulations on your new bird! T-tail Lance is love at first glance
Awesome aircraft , definitely the lance , smart move 👍
Good choice guys, lances are totally undervalued. Also one of better model names to say on the radio.
Totally agree 👌🏻
good upgrade nice choice
Just sold my T-tail Turbo Lance. Already missing it. The T-tail is no big deal, just carry 5 more knots. Congrats on the purchase, you'll love it!
We love it!
I just bought an Arrow II before you got your Lance, very nice plane.
Good looking airplane.
Landing at 15.46 well done matt! You made it happen!!!
Thanks boss 😎
Great pick! We've got G5s on the agenda for our Lance II as well. Also, our Altimatic IIIc is still doing great work for us, hoping it'll hold on til our pocketbook can recover from a nearing engine overhaul and original 1978 interior refurb. Looking forward to more Lance content and maybe seeing y'all in Memphis next year for the PA32 fly in.
We're super happy with the G5s and the GFC500 AP! And yes, we're excited about the fly-in; we weren't able to make it this past year but will try and make it for the next one!
I am actually looking at this exact model as my first plane. The problem is I don't know my mission and the 6 seater with huge cargo doors sounds great for bikes, skies, camping gear, small scooter. But 99%+ of the time will be flying alone, so thinking a 182 (vs T182 vs 182RG vs T182RG) might be better. But the gotcha is the 182's cost as much as the Lance. I can see how with two pilots and two families this bird makes a lot of sense.
good choice.
The locks,,,,cabinet locks from lowes. SMH ya gotta love piper lol
I've had my Piper Turbo Lance since 1998, so what does that tell you? Still have my Altimatic IIIC AP. why? Because it works just fine although i want an excuse to get the Garmin 500AP and 2 of the G5's. Has Garmin 530W and GPSS roll steering which makes the AP 10 times better. altitude hold works fine. Anyway, great airplane, roomy and a great cross country bird. Enjoy. Remember, you have to have 75lbs ballast in aft baggage area if you just have pilot and or co-pilot, otherwise nose heavy and difficult to land the thing. With alot of weight in back, it cruises and lands so much better.
May have to stop by for a visit when flying to our home in Beaufort, SC.
Thoroughly enjoy the videos/pace and editing.
Happy/Safe Flying!
Sweet video man. Excellent content as always. Miss you dudes
We miss you too 😢😢😢
@@BroPilots let's get lunch soon
I really wannna learn to fly a plane it looks so fun!
Way to work that last landing..nice plane! Can you tell that much difference during take off and landing with the T tail?
Yes, the takeoff roll is significantly longer than a straight tail (we need about 1700-1800 feet with margins for takeoff), and you have to be careful to make sure you’re trimmed right for landing. Definitely takes a bit of planning!
Have some weight in the rear seats and that helps a lot with heavy nose on slow speeds.
What happened to this channel? Was so pumped after this video for more content. Me of the best on TH-cam. Hope all is well
Simply amazing thanks for having me in the description. Ps if you ever come to TX let me now I would love to do collab.
Alex
I’m sure we will be in Texas sometime, we will hit you up!
@@BroPilots Awesome thanks.
Congrats on your new plane! I keep my piper dakota at Greenville Downtown (KGMU) on Tower ramp. We will have to connect sometime. I fly KLQK and KGRD a lot. #N2149J
Thanks! I we know your plane! Let's grab lunch at the Runway Cafe soon!
Actually excited watching this video. I'm trying to buy the same type of plane, but the market is just bonkers right now. Trying to wait it out =/. Mind me asking what this one cost?
Great plane, great video. Those wheels stick down in the slipstream a lot more than I thought when retracted. What are your typical cruise speeds? I get 145 in my fixed gear six.
At a power setting of 23/2400, about 140 KIAS
Looks > Elevator Authority
#facts
The t tail has plenty of elevator authority
@@BroPilots It's faster too, right? Moves the elevator drag out of the prop wash.
Enjoyed the video.
What did that thing sell for?
Why don’t you mention the prices?! That would have been nice
1, 2...? All the keys
Hey Bro's - Wanted to see if you have any advice on nailing landings on the T-Tail Lance. I'm picking one up on Monday and am a little apprehensive about the first few landings. I flew a T-Tail Arrow for 7 years so I should be a little ahead of the curve but the additional size/weight/speed will be a whole new ballgame. Any help is appreciated. Thx!
hey congrats on the new sweet plane!! student pilot here... quick question ..whats the minimum hours needed by the insurance???
For some planes, especially ones with retractable landing gear, insurance company’s require you to fly with an instructor for a certain number of hours before they will let you fly solo and still be covered. You can just fly anyways, but if something happens, you’ll be liable for all of the damages.
That approach / landing to Greenville looked scary. Was it windy?
Very windy, you can see the storm rolling up off of my right wing!
It’s odd that you all put a full glass panel into a simple Archer yet you get a full XC touring plane and skimp with a hodgepodge of cheaper avionics.
Is it just me or would a high wing be a lot easier to land?
Ok so I have considered a T tail lance, how big of a difference is the T tail on landings ? Is insurance higher for the T tail? Thx
No real big difference on the landings. Take off, however, requires significantly longer takeoff roll. We normally require 1500-1700 ft to rotate, but on a hot summer day, fully loaded, high density altitude, it can take 2000 ft to rotate.
Stay outta the boss's face!
How many hours did insurance want yall to have for it?
They wanted us to log 10 hours with an instructor before flying solo PIC
Wait...did you skip the hours needed by insurance to fly without an instructor? Does this mean you flew some other retractable aircraft and now have your complex endorsement?
I (matt) have already had my complex and HP endorsements. I was also checked out in the Arrow from the flight school we rented it from. We just needed additional instructor hours in the new type (PA32)
I need to ask cause I’m a 19 year old male and my dream is to be a pilot but I don’t have enough money to rent a plane but i need to know how to get a pilots license in the amount I’m able to work with.
I need to ask cause I’m a 19 year old male and my dream is to be a pilot but I don’t have enough money to rent a plane but i need to know how to get a pilots license in the amount I’m able to work with