Wow--I've been a fan of UNC and Kate Faase all season, but the angles of vision on this video seem to show more/sole contact with her upper arm, rather than her head. I'll bet there will be controversy today!
wording confusing but by rule is legit it seems like it, A player commits a handball when they touch the ball with their hand or arm while the ball is in play. The upper boundary of the arm is the bottom of the armpit, so anything above that is considered safe.
What is that commentator talking about??!! That was a clear handball. Even more surprising, no reaction from Penn State players! Especially the goalie!
@@scottbynum7816 Just curious, do you watch a lot of soccer? A handball does not have to hit your hand. The rule is that anything below your shoulder can be called a handball depending on how extended your arm is. It kind of should be called an arm ball, lol. Given that, it did appear to be a handball and I was also surprised no Penn State Player called for it (but I also didn't catch it until watching the replay after they called the game, so...)
Well she was a former North Carolina player so probably a little biased. But on a real note everything leading up to the contact with her arm was done perfectly by Kate Faase to put herself in a position to score.
Hand ball. I slowed it way down at it clearly hits half way between shoulder and elbow. You'll get away with front of the shoulder at times, but this was too far down the arm and should have been called.
I was at that game and watching it now that was puzzling why they didn’t review it, even as a UNC fan. I’m not gonna complain but that probably should’ve been checked.
@@Rogue_Centurion it's not reviewable any more than the contact against Emmie Allen in 2022 was reviewable. Even if it was reviewable, the ball landed high enough on Faasse's arm that there wouldn't have been enough evidence to say for sure that it was a hand ball and could be overturned. Find where the bottom of your armpit is, then bring your arm down against your body. That's the line, did the ball land above or below it? If you can't say for sure, that's not getting over turned.
It’s how they gave up North Carolina’s goal four minutes into the second half. They were parking the bus in the box so UNC’s right center-back Bella Gaetino(8) curled a beauty and bounced it past the goalie into the far post. After that they tried going back to their usual tactic of the counterattack but the pressure from UNC limited their opportunities and they never got a shot off in the second half.
I was at the game and it was that plus their inability to do literally anything offensively in the second half. North Carolina dominated the possession in the second half and Penn State’s style, which was the counter attack, was really weak as a result.
wow Penn State players are all over and never seem to be playing their position zones when a wing is in center of field where can a mid player pass the damn ball backwards
Why isn’t their goal line technology or replay in college soccer? They have the money and have Tech Grad students that can set it up free… added bonus they get real world experience for their resumes 😂
@@StevenHabibi there is actually video review. I was at the game and they spent nearly ten minutes reviewing a second Penn State goal that was called offsides, and spent another four minutes reviewing a potential red card foul on North Carolina that stayed a yellow card. As a UNC fan I’m not entirely sure why this wasn’t reviewed either.
A handball against the attacking player before a goal is scored is not a reviewable sequence ... it's not reviewable any more or less than the foul against Emmie Allen in the 2022 Championship Game. If it *had* been reviewable, the evidence on the field needed to be conclusive. It's why the two Penn State offside calls were not overturned, as it "looked" offside on Penn State's first and good goal, but it looked onside on Penn State's second goal. There wasn't enough evidence on either to overturn the call. Same for the UNC requests for review on 3 difference instances for a PK. The call on the field was no PK, and the official didn't see enough evidence to overturn the call, even though it clearly looked like a handball against a PSU attacker. Two of them weren't even reviewed because the sideline official didn't see enough. If handball had been reviewable in this particular case, the official would have had to determine if there was enough evidence that the ball landed low enough on the arm to be considered a handball. Find the bottom of your armpit, then bring your arm down against your body. Did the ball strike the arm below that, or above that? If you can't say for sure, then you can't overturn the call on the field. A lot of frustrating wrong / incorrect sequences of officiating in this game that couldn't be overturned with the current review rules. PSU fans like to overlook all the time it benefited them while focusing in on this play and some others. The standard of what kind of contact was allowed in this game was overwhelmingly beneficial for PSU, who focused on physical play and tough defense to disrupt UNC's rhythm and offensive potential. As an example, right before the red card review against the UNC defender, the same two players were involved in a physical play where the PSU attacker extended her arm and pushed the UNC defender as she was trying to run past. This caught the UNC attacker off balance and sent her careening into the brick wall 5 feet away. There was no foul. There was no review. It's easy to see why Elgin, the UNC defender, didn't feel like she was being protected when, not two minutes later the same player fouled her from behind and accidentally on purpose started to step over her after the play. If the PSU player hadn't gotten so close, Elgin might have caught her with her studs. Instead she was between Elgin's legs, and good karma won out. The better team won. The team that tried to bully and play slow, disruptive soccer while relying on the good graces of the AR's sense of offside lost.
Penn State's #7 defender allowed NC's #13 the inside lane for an unobstructed run straight to the goal to jump and attempt to head in the ball. Big mistake. But the bigger mistake is there's no review of a possible hand ball infraction by NC's #13 on her goal. The ball certainly didn't hit her head at all.
To all those calling "handball", this was not a handball. The ball *can* hit the upper forearm or shoulder and stay in play (the armpit is the reference point; at or above is OK). Some of you may have better eyesight than I do, but the ball seemed to hit off the inside top of her shoulder and collar. No one on the field reacted as if a handball had occurred because it did not. In any case, the better team won. PSU played a great game, but was clearly gassed at this point.
replay shows it hit off her shoulder or upper arm but given that at least 2 Penn State players were staring right at her and they didn't react I have to assume it was off her shoulder. Also, a ball can hit off your arm and not be called a handball if the arm is close to your body and in a natural position.
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that was the clearest handball ever.. jfc
Nice Header Goal.. Smooth..
Wow--I've been a fan of UNC and Kate Faase all season, but the angles of vision on this video seem to show more/sole contact with her upper arm, rather than her head. I'll bet there will be controversy today!
Faase lowered her head when it struck her shoulder--faked me out
Beautiful corner kick, wow.
This was a good game. Penn State women are getting closer. Keep your heads up and try again next season
8:10 and 8:28 Did ... did ... did that go in the goal from her arm?
Looked like a shoulder goal to me.
@@dowroa if they would of had reply, it would of been called a hand-ball
wording confusing but by rule is legit it seems like it, A player commits a handball when they touch the ball with their hand or arm while the ball is in play. The upper boundary of the arm is the bottom of the armpit, so anything above that is considered safe.
@@iinspireNP That's correct
@@iinspireNP yea, Maradona vibes.
I always feel for seniors during ncaa’s 😢
What is that commentator talking about??!! That was a clear handball. Even more surprising, no reaction from Penn State players! Especially the goalie!
Since when is your hand on your upper arm? lol that's where it hit, not a hand ball
@@scottbynum7816 Just curious, do you watch a lot of soccer? A handball does not have to hit your hand. The rule is that anything below your shoulder can be called a handball depending on how extended your arm is. It kind of should be called an arm ball, lol. Given that, it did appear to be a handball and I was also surprised no Penn State Player called for it (but I also didn't catch it until watching the replay after they called the game, so...)
@@scottbynum7816 fun fact: a handball is anything below the shoulder
Well she was a former North Carolina player so probably a little biased. But on a real note everything leading up to the contact with her arm was done perfectly by Kate Faase to put herself in a position to score.
Hand ball. I slowed it way down at it clearly hits half way between shoulder and elbow. You'll get away with front of the shoulder at times, but this was too far down the arm and should have been called.
El gol de north caroline fue con el antebrazo no debio contar,que no existe revision en la final
Where’s the replays for the quarterfinals?
Don't they review goals?? That was off her arm! Penn State got screwed.
Why no review?
I was at that game and watching it now that was puzzling why they didn’t review it, even as a UNC fan. I’m not gonna complain but that probably should’ve been checked.
@@Rogue_Centurion it's not reviewable any more than the contact against Emmie Allen in 2022 was reviewable. Even if it was reviewable, the ball landed high enough on Faasse's arm that there wouldn't have been enough evidence to say for sure that it was a hand ball and could be overturned. Find where the bottom of your armpit is, then bring your arm down against your body. That's the line, did the ball land above or below it? If you can't say for sure, that's not getting over turned.
Looked like Penn State was way too defensive and looked like they didn’t want to win.
It’s how they gave up North Carolina’s goal four minutes into the second half. They were parking the bus in the box so UNC’s right center-back Bella Gaetino(8) curled a beauty and bounced it past the goalie into the far post. After that they tried going back to their usual tactic of the counterattack but the pressure from UNC limited their opportunities and they never got a shot off in the second half.
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Great run on that corner. That ball can’t be free there. I think it counts too
I don’t like the pack it in and try to get to penalties strategy.
I was at the game and it was that plus their inability to do literally anything offensively in the second half. North Carolina dominated the possession in the second half and Penn State’s style, which was the counter attack, was really weak as a result.
It was a hand ball.... Should not have counted.
100% a hand ball. Hit just above her elbow.
I just noticed that i have to agree with you
wow Penn State players are all over and never seem to be playing their position zones when a wing is in center of field where can a mid player pass the damn ball backwards
Why isn’t their goal line technology or replay in college soccer?
They have the money and have Tech Grad students that can set it up free… added bonus they get real world experience for their resumes 😂
@@StevenHabibi there is actually video review. I was at the game and they spent nearly ten minutes reviewing a second Penn State goal that was called offsides, and spent another four minutes reviewing a potential red card foul on North Carolina that stayed a yellow card. As a UNC fan I’m not entirely sure why this wasn’t reviewed either.
I was at that game and it was a great game
Same but I left before ot cuz I was too cold🥶🥶
@@Flame_VRGT wimp lol you gotta thug it out
A handball against the attacking player before a goal is scored is not a reviewable sequence ... it's not reviewable any more or less than the foul against Emmie Allen in the 2022 Championship Game.
If it *had* been reviewable, the evidence on the field needed to be conclusive. It's why the two Penn State offside calls were not overturned, as it "looked" offside on Penn State's first and good goal, but it looked onside on Penn State's second goal. There wasn't enough evidence on either to overturn the call. Same for the UNC requests for review on 3 difference instances for a PK. The call on the field was no PK, and the official didn't see enough evidence to overturn the call, even though it clearly looked like a handball against a PSU attacker. Two of them weren't even reviewed because the sideline official didn't see enough.
If handball had been reviewable in this particular case, the official would have had to determine if there was enough evidence that the ball landed low enough on the arm to be considered a handball. Find the bottom of your armpit, then bring your arm down against your body. Did the ball strike the arm below that, or above that? If you can't say for sure, then you can't overturn the call on the field.
A lot of frustrating wrong / incorrect sequences of officiating in this game that couldn't be overturned with the current review rules. PSU fans like to overlook all the time it benefited them while focusing in on this play and some others. The standard of what kind of contact was allowed in this game was overwhelmingly beneficial for PSU, who focused on physical play and tough defense to disrupt UNC's rhythm and offensive potential. As an example, right before the red card review against the UNC defender, the same two players were involved in a physical play where the PSU attacker extended her arm and pushed the UNC defender as she was trying to run past. This caught the UNC attacker off balance and sent her careening into the brick wall 5 feet away. There was no foul. There was no review. It's easy to see why Elgin, the UNC defender, didn't feel like she was being protected when, not two minutes later the same player fouled her from behind and accidentally on purpose started to step over her after the play. If the PSU player hadn't gotten so close, Elgin might have caught her with her studs. Instead she was between Elgin's legs, and good karma won out.
The better team won. The team that tried to bully and play slow, disruptive soccer while relying on the good graces of the AR's sense of offside lost.
Penn State's #7 defender allowed NC's #13 the inside lane for an unobstructed run straight to the goal to jump and attempt to head in the ball. Big mistake. But the bigger mistake is there's no review of a possible hand ball infraction by NC's #13 on her goal. The ball certainly didn't hit her head at all.
That was a handball?
Yo that was a handball lol
To all those calling "handball", this was not a handball. The ball *can* hit the upper forearm or shoulder and stay in play (the armpit is the reference point; at or above is OK). Some of you may have better eyesight than I do, but the ball seemed to hit off the inside top of her shoulder and collar. No one on the field reacted as if a handball had occurred because it did not. In any case, the better team won. PSU played a great game, but was clearly gassed at this point.
I showed it way down. Contact is half way to the elbow. Hand ball.
It can go off the shoulder and be legal. Not a handball
Correct, except this was well below the shoulder
replay shows it hit off her shoulder or upper arm but given that at least 2 Penn State players were staring right at her and they didn't react I have to assume it was off her shoulder. Also, a ball can hit off your arm and not be called a handball if the arm is close to your body and in a natural position.
I think this is a legit goal. However, Penn State had one called back earlier in the game that I think should've counted too.
nope the disallowed goal was offside, go back and watch lol. She was clearly offside, good call.