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Actually, both the Champion's Leathers and the Champion's Tunic let you fire sword beams without full health, even without being upgraded. The only thing upgrading them does is increase their defence.
There's a blue slate written by Prince Sidon in Zora's Domain where he repeatedly compares Yona to his sister. Apparently Yona is quite a bit older and ended up saving his life when he was small. He even goes as far as to write "As a child, I had two big sisters" referring to Mipha and Yona. And it ends with him saying these thoughts are "may too dear and private to commit to history" when he finds out Yona is destined to be his wife. SUS
1. There are many caves in totk, but some of them have actually hidden rooms. For example, next to one of hot springs in Hebra, you can find a cave, that has a randomly standing rock. If you move it, you'll see a tunnel that leads to room full of shrooms and other useful stuff. In fact, there are multiple caves that contain such prizes for careful players. 2. Totk, just like other Zelda games has an amazing structure of NPC's reactions. Developers has put so much detail in those conversations, that even when Link helps Hoz fight at the Hyrule Field with monsters, and uses ONLY earthquake mannual, Hoz will comment on Link's strange way of fighting.
Link can also lure out a Molduga by throwing anything on the ground near their vicinity (like an apple, a spicy pepper, or single light bulb seed). It's a great way to use an item that you may have hundreds of.
Riju's lightning also has the advantage of being able to be more precisely aimed than Yonubu or bombs. And it hits *exactly* where the arrow hits. So if you've carved out a section in bombable rocks, you can use Riju's lightning to blast deeper into the pile than you might otherwise could, and the blast seems to be bigger than bomb explosions (it also doesn't hurt you, and can be used in superheated areas)
I appreciate 1 of my secrets and clips being used. You normally thank and list out the channels you grabbed videos from. This video covers 7 of the 20 secrets I first posted a few weeks ago so you have 13 more secrets you haven’t covered before but I won’t list them all out. Full video here - th-cam.com/video/yvz2s1XoZSg/w-d-xo.html
8:08 you can also use them to increase the damage that your lasers do. Attach a laser to a tracking head and then let loose some bees. It goes crazy and does an insane amount of damage
It’s doesn’t even feel like this game came out this year. This year has been packed with so many great games. I remember how addicted I was when this came out.
I actually didn't know construct horns could be used as currency. 11:50 Beware of the people named "Traveler". Zonai vehicles kind of make horses obsolete. 14:46 What is in those chests?
I noticed that certain animals are important in totk. Frogs are notable, because of bubbulfrogs & the froggy set. But so are owls, as the glide set is based off them. Mineru has an owl mask & it's 1 of the symbols for the zonai. It appears on the zonaite belt buckle. Finally dragons are quite symbolic. I feel that's much more apparent so I won't get into examples here
Well said! I also noted that the voices that spoke at the three Lomei labyrinths referred to themselves as the ruler of dragons, boars, and owls. I thought that was an interesting touch. I was wondering if it was a reference to the Triforce -- owls are often portrayed as wise and Ganon often takes the form of a boar when he goes Dark Beast mode, but I don't know how dragons would fit that motif. So I may be reading into it wrong there.
@@c.k.mcknight8921it ties into the zonai interpretations of the triforce. Even back in botw before we knew anything at all about the zonai, if you looked around where zonai architecture exists, there are statues of owls and dragons
The Yiga's bait bananas can be claimed unscorched if you shoot them with an arrow, which allows you to claim them even if your meal slots are full. Also, if your meal slots are full, some meal rewards will be replaced by a red rupee. Addison and some of the citizens in conflict behave this way.
So I’ve had totk for a while and i did not know until today that you are supposed to use charges in the zonai dispensers, I’ve been using horns the whole time ;-;
Actually I believe the clip at 7:19 demonstrates that. His armor goes down upon equipping it, and since it has the highest defense of any armor piece when fully upgraded, it could not have been maxed there.
Pretty irrelavent but I found this one out while running from a bunch of gloom hands: When you aggravate them (that is to say, when they spot you) and the world turns red, certain NPCs will have a special dialogue on the change of the sky and go hysterical with fear. Happened with me a few times now , the first time was by accident because I kept button mashing while running
It’s not the same thing. With a spear or boomerang you can re-fuse the same hover stone to the weapon and use it repeatedly. Shooting a hover stone with an arrow is a 1-time use and will always pull a hover stone from your inventory. The spear method is great for Addison signs and you just need a single one.
Arrow + Hoverstone is great for taking pictures of the dragons. Jumping off a dragon, gliding ahead, and dropping a platform means I can take much better Compendium pictures of the game's dragons than the ones I get from the ground or sky islands.
The Wizzrobes summoning monsters was also in BOTW. They can summon Chuchus, Keese, and I think also Lizalfos. I wouldn't call it a secret because it already was an ability in the previous game before the sequel came out.
@@TheCommenterrr Of course because it's not a common used attack. Confronting them and then waiting for a while and they will eventually summon a monster. I just had it happen to me yesterday.
the Champion's Tunic and the Leathers one is incorrect. You don't need to upgrade the armor to make the beams work even at not full health. It works as soon as you get either shirt. Now if you meant without using durability then I have no idea about that
I’m sure most people have noticed this but On the Great Plateau, where the old man/king was first seen in BotW, there’s a Yiga disguised as Zelda. Also, the fabric for the image of the parasail from BotW is found in the steeple of the Temple of Time which is where the old man gives you the parasail in Breath.
9:33 moldugas can be killed easily if you have a five shot Lynel bow equipped. While in bullet time just pepper it with bombs and it will be defeated before hitting the ground 👍🏻
@@Davidvibez that’s correct. I on the other hand found a way to get more or less eternal bomb flowers. Kill a battle talus after has thrown off his guards, kill it. Then save, and reload that save. Now kill all bokos except for the one throwing bombs. Save, reload, build a stick connected with a head and stick in the ground. Activate the thing from a distance. Wear you boko mask at all times, have all sages disabled. As the boko begins lobbing bombs at you creation the sit and move closer to him. As soon as there’s a command saying Take it start taking the bomb out of his hand, never the basket. He has infinite bombs, so he will throw bombs as long as the battery isn’t drained, keep a watch on that. Best regards 👍🏻😉😊
@@TOGade-dj6jh The infinite bomb flower (or anything in a boko backpack) Strat is covered in my 20 Things video and I first saw it from Austin John players. Quite hilarious (I used it to get a boko to play dunk tank and kill hi buddy LOL). It's still faster to use Gibdo bones while in bullet time. Lots of ways to play this game and that's the beauty of it.
@@Davidvibez I agree! I first saw it at 100% Zelda, he also has many great tips. And that’s one of the reason I simply love BotW and TotK, there’s no “wrong” was to play then. Enormous worlds with endless possibilities. I’m 50 years old and still love playing Legend of Zelda. The two best series in my opinion is Zelda (of course) and Alan Wake. Can’t wait to get my hands on Alan wake 2 and console that match it.
@@TOGade-dj6jh 42 y/o hear so I can relate! Didn't really play Alan Wake. Sounds like I should boot up my Xbox One and check it out before 2 comes out. Thanks!
There are spotted horses in my game and I never found Spot for the old timer at Lookout Landing. It is maybe possible that it is a glitch, but I doubt that. Rumors are all the rage with this game. I have never seen nor captured Spot, but I have now seen that horse thanks to this video. I believe the lady who needs that wagon fixed at New Serenne Stable tells you about spotted horses being the easiest to tame via tips after you fix her wagon.
I only have 3 shrines left to find, finished all of the dungeons and have 18 bubolfrogs left missing along side 552 koroks and I have JUST finished the "Finding Spot" quest and NEVER would I have ever noticed the thing about the horses, lel
Just and absolute wonderful game through and through. its not perfect, it has some glitches. But those imperfections are LOST underneath its absolute breakthrough masterpiece. I want to see more awards on this game. This is to new kids playing it as A Link to the Past/Ocarina of Time was for my youth.
I found one today. While going up a mountain i was cutting grass as i went beside the path, the grass was yellow. The most common drop was a piece of amber, a few grasshoppers but 9 out of 10 amber. America the Beautiful Easter egg. Ive never heard anything about this before and might have been the first to figure it out, seeing as the recent generations dont do the Pledge of Allegiance in schools anymore and probably have never heard any patriotic songs.
I find the Cucco warning of a disguised Yiga being super impractical and inefficient, like who is going to be carrying a Cucco at all times? Or when you run into every random NPC in the wild does , "Oh let me run back to the nearest stable or town and grab a Cucco and come back to test if this is a Yiga clan ninja." No just fucking killing them takes only a few seconds and is far more efficient. Ain't nobody got all the time in the world to waste worrying about if an NPC is a Yiga or not.
Getting all the heart containers isn't necessary for beating the game, obviously. As for the breaking weapons, you can always fix them on octorocks... even though it's often just faster to get new weapons for enemies.
That’s the Frostbite Shirt, part of a full set. It’s in the cave near the rocket shrine above Lucky Clover Gazette when you are heading to Rito Village. There’s a campfire and 2 sisters in front of it
People getting mad when I say this but I really don't care I necessarily don't care about this game like I really don't like it but this is interesting stuff to hear I necessarily don't want to play this game but I just like hearing about what's going on with this game I'm over old school Zelda fan but I still liked videos like this and people can't understand it and I get into arguments I really don't care if this was not an open world game and you missed 11 chests that's different but this is an open world game so how is 11 chess miscible that makes no sense
@@sephikong7880 I never heard of no open world being having stuff miscible that makes no sense I guess you obviously never played other open world games but Zelda LOL
@@sephikong7880 if you played other open world games you would know what I'm talking about you obviously don't 🤣😂🤣😂 since you don't know in every single open world game there's nothing miscible I mean that's common sense just saying and even after you do beat the open world game you are free to free roam so there's nothing miscible and the reason why I care it makes it even more the reason why I should not play this game just completely stupid just saying tell me you only Play breath of the wild without telling me you only Play breath of the wild I mean you don't know the standard of open world games LOL that is the point of an open world game you don't miss anything 🤦🤦🤦 that's not a thing in open world games my dude there's nothing missable that is my whole problem LOL this is my first time ever hearing that 11 treasure chest is missable in a open world 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I'm good y'all can keep this game I really stick to the old school Zelda LOL that's what I'm playing right now Majora's mask 👍👍👍
So there's 11 completely miscible treasure chest that is completely stupid you wouldn't even know that I hope that just was a oversight and a mistake on a developer's part because that's just stupid it's an open world game it's not like it's lanyard so how in the hell 11 treasure chest is missable that makes no f******since
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Actually, both the Champion's Leathers and the Champion's Tunic let you fire sword beams without full health, even without being upgraded. The only thing upgrading them does is increase their defence.
that;s what i found as well.
Nice pfp
And the distance the sword beam travels scales with link's health.
@@johnfarr8292 thanks lol
Facts
There's a blue slate written by Prince Sidon in Zora's Domain where he repeatedly compares Yona to his sister. Apparently Yona is quite a bit older and ended up saving his life when he was small. He even goes as far as to write "As a child, I had two big sisters" referring to Mipha and Yona. And it ends with him saying these thoughts are "may too dear and private to commit to history" when he finds out Yona is destined to be his wife. SUS
1. There are many caves in totk, but some of them have actually hidden rooms. For example, next to one of hot springs in Hebra, you can find a cave, that has a randomly standing rock. If you move it, you'll see a tunnel that leads to room full of shrooms and other useful stuff. In fact, there are multiple caves that contain such prizes for careful players. 2. Totk, just like other Zelda games has an amazing structure of NPC's reactions. Developers has put so much detail in those conversations, that even when Link helps Hoz fight at the Hyrule Field with monsters, and uses ONLY earthquake mannual, Hoz will comment on Link's strange way of fighting.
That cave actually has a quest tied to it, if you find the characters involved and do their subsequent quests
Link can also lure out a Molduga by throwing anything on the ground near their vicinity (like an apple, a spicy pepper, or single light bulb seed). It's a great way to use an item that you may have hundreds of.
About Muldogas in TOTK. Gibdo bones fired from a 3-5 shot Lynel bow make quick work of the beast. It's even quicker than using bombs.
Riju's lightning also has the advantage of being able to be more precisely aimed than Yonubu or bombs.
And it hits *exactly* where the arrow hits.
So if you've carved out a section in bombable rocks, you can use Riju's lightning to blast deeper into the pile than you might otherwise could, and the blast seems to be bigger than bomb explosions (it also doesn't hurt you, and can be used in superheated areas)
I use cannons fused on a spear/sturdy stick and us the R to aim. :D
I appreciate 1 of my secrets and clips being used. You normally thank and list out the channels you grabbed videos from. This video covers 7 of the 20 secrets I first posted a few weeks ago so you have 13 more secrets you haven’t covered before but I won’t list them all out. Full video here - th-cam.com/video/yvz2s1XoZSg/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, this channel also just ripped literally every single fun fact from one of gamespot’s videos for Breath of the wild :(
8:08 you can also use them to increase the damage that your lasers do. Attach a laser to a tracking head and then let loose some bees. It goes crazy and does an insane amount of damage
It’s doesn’t even feel like this game came out this year. This year has been packed with so many great games. I remember how addicted I was when this came out.
I actually didn't know construct horns could be used as currency. 11:50 Beware of the people named "Traveler".
Zonai vehicles kind of make horses obsolete.
14:46 What is in those chests?
* 11:50 Beware of the people named "Traveler".*
Also, "Researcher" near Zonai ruins in the Depths.
I noticed that certain animals are important in totk. Frogs are notable, because of bubbulfrogs & the froggy set. But so are owls, as the glide set is based off them. Mineru has an owl mask & it's 1 of the symbols for the zonai. It appears on the zonaite belt buckle. Finally dragons are quite symbolic. I feel that's much more apparent so I won't get into examples here
Well said! I also noted that the voices that spoke at the three Lomei labyrinths referred to themselves as the ruler of dragons, boars, and owls. I thought that was an interesting touch. I was wondering if it was a reference to the Triforce -- owls are often portrayed as wise and Ganon often takes the form of a boar when he goes Dark Beast mode, but I don't know how dragons would fit that motif. So I may be reading into it wrong there.
@@c.k.mcknight8921it ties into the zonai interpretations of the triforce. Even back in botw before we knew anything at all about the zonai, if you looked around where zonai architecture exists, there are statues of owls and dragons
The Yiga's bait bananas can be claimed unscorched if you shoot them with an arrow, which allows you to claim them even if your meal slots are full. Also, if your meal slots are full, some meal rewards will be replaced by a red rupee. Addison and some of the citizens in conflict behave this way.
Also hitting the banana with a weapon works too, but only if ur wearing the Yiga armour.
So I’ve had totk for a while and i did not know until today that you are supposed to use charges in the zonai dispensers, I’ve been using horns the whole time ;-;
I think the Champion's Leathers lets you fire master sword beams at any health level whether or not it's upgraded.
Actually I believe the clip at 7:19 demonstrates that. His armor goes down upon equipping it, and since it has the highest defense of any armor piece when fully upgraded, it could not have been maxed there.
Hands down best game in history
Pretty irrelavent but I found this one out while running from a bunch of gloom hands: When you aggravate them (that is to say, when they spot you) and the world turns red, certain NPCs will have a special dialogue on the change of the sky and go hysterical with fear. Happened with me a few times now , the first time was by accident because I kept button mashing while running
Gloom hands are the new floor masters if anyone was wondering
Floor masters were the stuff of nightmares
You can also fuse a hover stone to an arrow to achieve the same thing as a spear or boomerang
It’s not the same thing. With a spear or boomerang you can re-fuse the same hover stone to the weapon and use it repeatedly. Shooting a hover stone with an arrow is a 1-time use and will always pull a hover stone from your inventory. The spear method is great for Addison signs and you just need a single one.
The Molduga's weak point is its stomach, not its head as most people assume. I think it does like times 3 damage.
Molduga's weak point is also shock arrow damage, not bombs arrows.
@@levobupivacaine That's the Molduking, not the Molduga.
Arrow + Hoverstone is great for taking pictures of the dragons. Jumping off a dragon, gliding ahead, and dropping a platform means I can take much better Compendium pictures of the game's dragons than the ones I get from the ground or sky islands.
The Wizzrobes summoning monsters was also in BOTW. They can summon Chuchus, Keese, and I think also Lizalfos. I wouldn't call it a secret because it already was an ability in the previous game before the sequel came out.
I’ve never seen them summon other enemies! Huh
@@TheCommenterrr Of course because it's not a common used attack. Confronting them and then waiting for a while and they will eventually summon a monster. I just had it happen to me yesterday.
the Champion's Tunic and the Leathers one is incorrect. You don't need to upgrade the armor to make the beams work even at not full health. It works as soon as you get either shirt. Now if you meant without using durability then I have no idea about that
I’m sure most people have noticed this but On the Great Plateau, where the old man/king was first seen in BotW, there’s a Yiga disguised as Zelda.
Also, the fabric for the image of the parasail from BotW is found in the steeple of the Temple of Time which is where the old man gives you the parasail in Breath.
Oh my freaking god!!!!! Tears of the kingdom is just bursting at the seems with secrets!!!!!
Had no idea you can build a home!!! Gotta finish that side quest.
you can do all kinds of cool things with it like displaying weapons and pictures
9:33 moldugas can be killed easily if you have a five shot Lynel bow equipped. While in bullet time just pepper it with bombs and it will be defeated before hitting the ground 👍🏻
Just use any 3-shot bow and Gibdo bones while in bullet time. Don’t waste bombs
@@Davidvibez that’s correct. I on the other hand found a way to get more or less eternal bomb flowers. Kill a battle talus after has thrown off his guards, kill it. Then save, and reload that save. Now kill all bokos except for the one throwing bombs. Save, reload, build a stick connected with a head and stick in the ground. Activate the thing from a distance. Wear you boko mask at all times, have all sages disabled. As the boko begins lobbing bombs at you creation the sit and move closer to him. As soon as there’s a command saying Take it start taking the bomb out of his hand, never the basket. He has infinite bombs, so he will throw bombs as long as the battery isn’t drained, keep a watch on that.
Best regards
👍🏻😉😊
@@TOGade-dj6jh The infinite bomb flower (or anything in a boko backpack) Strat is covered in my 20 Things video and I first saw it from Austin John players. Quite hilarious (I used it to get a boko to play dunk tank and kill hi buddy LOL). It's still faster to use Gibdo bones while in bullet time. Lots of ways to play this game and that's the beauty of it.
@@Davidvibez I agree! I first saw it at 100% Zelda, he also has many great tips. And that’s one of the reason I simply love BotW and TotK, there’s no “wrong” was to play then. Enormous worlds with endless possibilities. I’m 50 years old and still love playing Legend of Zelda. The two best series in my opinion is Zelda (of course) and Alan Wake. Can’t wait to get my hands on Alan wake 2 and console that match it.
@@TOGade-dj6jh 42 y/o hear so I can relate! Didn't really play Alan Wake. Sounds like I should boot up my Xbox One and check it out before 2 comes out. Thanks!
There are spotted horses in my game and I never found Spot for the old timer at Lookout Landing. It is maybe possible that it is a glitch, but I doubt that. Rumors are all the rage with this game. I have never seen nor captured Spot, but I have now seen that horse thanks to this video. I believe the lady who needs that wagon fixed at New Serenne Stable tells you about spotted horses being the easiest to tame via tips after you fix her wagon.
Thank You. Now I know why I remembered that house music playing faster for some reason.
I only have 3 shrines left to find, finished all of the dungeons and have 18 bubolfrogs left missing along side 552 koroks and I have JUST finished the "Finding Spot" quest and NEVER would I have ever noticed the thing about the horses, lel
3:23 next thing you know people are gonna say Kilton and Kolton are Yiga because they have similar sound effects as the Yiga.
2:00 Why wouldn't you show us the glowing stalnox?
I want a Legend of Zelda RPG. Straight up FF7 remake kind of stuff.
Just and absolute wonderful game through and through. its not perfect, it has some glitches. But those imperfections are LOST underneath its absolute breakthrough masterpiece. I want to see more awards on this game. This is to new kids playing it as A Link to the Past/Ocarina of Time was for my youth.
I've never ran into a single glitch in TotK.
This channel is like the Internet Explorer of TOTK content.
I found one today. While going up a mountain i was cutting grass as i went beside the path, the grass was yellow. The most common drop was a piece of amber, a few grasshoppers but 9 out of 10 amber. America the Beautiful Easter egg. Ive never heard anything about this before and might have been the first to figure it out, seeing as the recent generations dont do the Pledge of Allegiance in schools anymore and probably have never heard any patriotic songs.
The champions leathers bonus works from the get go, no need to upgrade it at all
I definitely called this! I knew they were gonna do a fifth video.
I noticed the guy on the emergency shelter readonf the newspaper doesnt notice when you swong at him
I find the Cucco warning of a disguised Yiga being super impractical and inefficient, like who is going to be carrying a Cucco at all times? Or when you run into every random NPC in the wild does , "Oh let me run back to the nearest stable or town and grab a Cucco and come back to test if this is a Yiga clan ninja." No just fucking killing them takes only a few seconds and is far more efficient. Ain't nobody got all the time in the world to waste worrying about if an NPC is a Yiga or not.
I feel ya, Senna
I love Riju, she is so beautiful and amazing, she definitely earned her title as cheiftan of the Gerudo ❤😊💯🙏
Should have been able to dive
well i didn't know about the gloom rock treasure chests... and i already beat the fire temple...
Senna has a Purple Heart in the idgaf war
Shoot. I was just using the construct horns on the gacha I didn't know about the charges
I know some people use the bees for some Pulsing Laser builds
spot was my first horse i tamed on my way to hebra only after i completed the game so i was like oh but it is my horse lol
Link used Stone Edge!
10:23
Hi tp
Great game but too easy it feels pointless to get every heart conatainers,upgraded armor or better weapons since they keep breaking
Getting all the heart containers isn't necessary for beating the game, obviously. As for the breaking weapons, you can always fix them on octorocks... even though it's often just faster to get new weapons for enemies.
How is it 5 videos how many secrets are there
Where did you get that outfit? 0:25
That’s the Frostbite Shirt, part of a full set. It’s in the cave near the rocket shrine above Lucky Clover Gazette when you are heading to Rito Village. There’s a campfire and 2 sisters in front of it
they arent "secrets", normal people would just call that the game.
If you can miss 11 items that's a lot for open world game you should not be able to miss anything
WRONG
I didn't quite enjoy this video. A couple incorrect things, and I only learned 3 new things out of 20 :(
People getting mad when I say this but I really don't care I necessarily don't care about this game like I really don't like it but this is interesting stuff to hear I necessarily don't want to play this game but I just like hearing about what's going on with this game I'm over old school Zelda fan but I still liked videos like this and people can't understand it and I get into arguments I really don't care if this was not an open world game and you missed 11 chests that's different but this is an open world game so how is 11 chess miscible that makes no sense
Obviously you care about it enough to get upset about the misable treasure chests
@@sephikong7880 I just find it completely stupid
@@sephikong7880 I never heard of no open world being having stuff miscible that makes no sense I guess you obviously never played other open world games but Zelda LOL
@@sephikong7880 if you played other open world games you would know what I'm talking about you obviously don't 🤣😂🤣😂 since you don't know in every single open world game there's nothing miscible I mean that's common sense just saying and even after you do beat the open world game you are free to free roam so there's nothing miscible and the reason why I care it makes it even more the reason why I should not play this game just completely stupid just saying tell me you only Play breath of the wild without telling me you only Play breath of the wild I mean you don't know the standard of open world games LOL that is the point of an open world game you don't miss anything 🤦🤦🤦 that's not a thing in open world games my dude there's nothing missable that is my whole problem LOL this is my first time ever hearing that 11 treasure chest is missable in a open world 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I'm good y'all can keep this game I really stick to the old school Zelda LOL that's what I'm playing right now Majora's mask 👍👍👍
@@natejoe9924 That's a nice argument senator, why don't you back it up with a source?
So there's 11 completely miscible treasure chest that is completely stupid you wouldn't even know that I hope that just was a oversight and a mistake on a developer's part because that's just stupid it's an open world game it's not like it's lanyard so how in the hell 11 treasure chest is missable that makes no f******since