My first year at university, in 1980, we had to program using punched cards. Each card represented a line of code. I still have a stack of cards from one of the programs I wrote; I give them as souvenirs to young colleagues. I wonder what kind of monstrous pattern your machine would create if we fed it one of my cards! I'm sure you can get blank punched cards, but finding a machine to encode them would be a bit more of a challenge. BTW, I like your channel name.
Peter Patchis Yarn! Highly recommend checking them out in person if you ever are on the east cost. They have lots of bulk cone yarn from textile mills.
I received my Dean and Bean near the end of January this year (2024) and it took me about 4 weeks to get a wearable pair of socks. I still have trouble getting 2 socks to match. .... (long groaning sigh)...... the tension (rolleyes) ... 🙄... The quality was lower than many youtude reviews... various parts crushed when fully tightened into place. I made replacement parts in aluminum and did repairs with epoxy putty. Not pretty, but durable and paint is an option when I feel motivated. I want high quality wool socks and I enjoy the challenge.... so I am happy enough with my machine. . I have subscribed so I can learn more about knitting machines. I like your video style.
I have the Brother 840 and am lost in using all the attachments. I have done the punch card feature, and even made a bumble bee pattern on my Cricket. I have never done the lace cartridge and would love to learn how it works. So far it has been a very expensive sock maker. I hope you continue to use this machine in demonstrations. I have the motif clips and haven't used them either. If I don't learn to do more with machine it will be packed away or sold which is sad, I had such high hopes of making things.
Oh, you might already know this but there should be some wee clips in there so you can loop the punch card around and clip it in a circle and then you can just keep on knitting the pattern.
There’s a section in the manual for how to repack everything, at least there is in my Brother copy. Though it’s always the bit that frustrates me as it never seems to go back smoothly 😀. I keep the punch cards in a separate folder to keep them flat and undamaged as they can get caught up in the reader if they are bent. As already mentioned there are plastic clips (a bit like pop studs) to turn the cards into a loop for continuous knitting, mine are bright green.
The grease all over everything is probably intentional, to keep it from rusting during shipping. Though I wouldn't have expected it on chrome plated parts like the extension rails.
That says a lot about the quality of the steel and plating...the manufacturer expects possible rust spots in warehousing and transport while 30 years old brother machine stored in a humid shed still looks spotless.
We have a small knitting shop relatively close to me in Waynesboro PA called the Knitting Cottage where I took a class with Mary Anne Oger in 2019 . They had this machine and a Brother 230 clone out for sale. It's a significant investment for a clone machine and almost no dealer support. I'm happy they're being made but, not sure if I would buy one.
So there are 3 Brother knitting machine "clones" out there. They are all Chinese/Taiwanese brands, but they are Taitexma, Creative, and Artisan. These three brands are basically exact copies of the older Brother machines and function exactly the same way.
There are several companies in different countries that reproduce the brother punchcard knitting machine (creative, nova, taitexma etc). Brother punchcard machines are also lighter than brother computer knitting machines (except KH 900). I have noticed with several of my original brother machines that they were being continually redesigned and some small features were scrapped because they became unneccessary or made easier to use or to save resources...and of course new features introduced. My knowledge based on punchies from 800 to 895, but also 900-950 computer models.
Looks very similar to my brother KH-891. A while ago I bought a brand new in box Brother KH-891 of a house clearing for ONLY £100. I was so cheap that I felt bad for the owner... Anyway, I have not had chance to try it yet as I believe I need to service the machine before the first use (even though it is practically new). I am watching your vids to get started...
I brought a brother 860.That's brand new.It was shoved in a closet for over 30 years, I.Replaced the sponge burger. And I could tell you that's an exact clone
Just a suggestion, maybe take a poll on what people what to see? LK150 gets a lot of views. The flatbed socks, first sweater. If you are trying to get people back into knitting machines it is not with the AYAB crowd. It is LK150 and standard bed without ribber. A poll would be interesting.
I prefer the punchcard facility over electronic, less to go wrong for me. 🇬🇧👍just make sure you keep the punchcards flat and out of the sun as it destroys them, they go brittle and disintegrate.
All the grease on the metal parts is to prevent metal items from rusting during storage and shipping so that you don't buy a new machine and it arrives rusty because of the humidity in the warehouse it has been in. Its expected to clean that shipping oil off the parts when you receive it.
Hi there, thanks for the video. I have been looking at this brand. Wanted to ask if you could include in review on the yarn size, and I believe there is a version that does a double knit (DK). I have tried to go on the link, but for some reason does not want to go on the site, could be to do with been in a different country. I am very interested in the double knit version, if you could mention the other sizes, it would be appreciated.
The Taitexma TH260 would be what you're looking for. It's a clone of the Brother 260 if you're looking for used. The 260 or the Silver Reed SK-155. The Sk-155 has a 12 stick punchcard not a 24 stitch but, it's still sold new in limited numbers.
@@MillieFrum The double Knit or DK yarn is the most common type of yarn used in domestic home industries. The yarn is used mostly with hand knitting, the hand needle been a 4mm size. I believe there is a Texima that works only with this yarn, never seen one. If you know about this machine and you could mention it that would be great. If not then it does not exist. Thanks all the best.
Things can get odd when old equipment designs are re-used. I have a Taitexma 160 that has the KnitLeader tripper -- but the knitting bed has no brackets to hold a KnitLeader. It does look as though your model has the brackets, though.
I have a Taitexma 160 knitter-ribber pair. It's mid-gauge (6mm) and is very basic compared to the 860; no punch cards, no button-driven selection (any needle selection is manual). I also noted the quality issues shown in the video, plus it seems that the cast-on combs are inappropriately rough and 'snaggy' given their intended use. Still, it's a serviceable machine for stockinette and ribbing. I believe there are punch card versions available as well; just search for "Taitexma."
They make a 260 clone (9mm punch card) and a machine called the 160. the carriage looks like a silver reed. It's odd because the clone is a 6mm machine. I have the SR SK-160 and it's a 6.5mm machine. I also think someone is making a clone of the Brother 230 (9mm no punch card) Garter stitch machines didn't really catch on in the home market. You need to opposing beds like the penguin machines. Garter bars aren't difficult to learn but, I wouldn't want to use one every day.
@@RitaMcKerrell True but, the garter carriage has some serious drawbacks. 1) It only works on specific Brother machines and Brother machines only. 2) it's not made anymore,. 3) The needle is expensive to replace and not made any more. 4) It's slow. They call it the turtle for a reason 5) it's noisy even by knitting machine standards.
“A cold” … I wish you the best in your healing, but please test for covid. We’re in a massive surge right now, it’s so bad they’re requiring masks at the tour de france. It seems like every other TH-camr has to make a vague disclaimer about their illness right now, it’s incredibly alarming. Please take care of yourself so we can continue to enjoy your expertise for years to come!! ❤
Not Taiwanese, I'm pretty sure it's Chinese. Certainly not up to the Japanese standars, you can feel the cheaper plastics and the metal parts, but it's a good option if you want a new machine. I know from a local dealer that they need to be adjusted and checked by expert technicians before use, to make sure they work propery 100%
If that's not a Brother I'll...eat my hat...China doesn't respect trademarks. Or waited for Brother patent to expire? Even the layout inside the lid is identical!
It's interesting to see someone who's such an hands-on expert/familiar with many vintage knitting machines discover a brand new one!
My first year at university, in 1980, we had to program using punched cards. Each card represented a line of code. I still have a stack of cards from one of the programs I wrote; I give them as souvenirs to young colleagues. I wonder what kind of monstrous pattern your machine would create if we fed it one of my cards! I'm sure you can get blank punched cards, but finding a machine to encode them would be a bit more of a challenge. BTW, I like your channel name.
Also, exciting to see someone might still be making knitting machine oil and brand new needles that might fit into the Brother 860, if it's a clone!
I have the brother 860 and this is definitely the same machine although mine is of course yellow and old and now I'm jealous of yours lol.
The punch cards are just old school AYAB. 😂 Excited to see more videos with this machine.
Peter Patchis Yarn! Highly recommend checking them out in person if you ever are on the east cost. They have lots of bulk cone yarn from textile mills.
I received my Dean and Bean near the end of January this year (2024) and it took me about 4 weeks to get a wearable pair of socks.
I still have trouble getting 2 socks to match. .... (long groaning sigh)...... the tension (rolleyes) ... 🙄...
The quality was lower than many youtude reviews... various parts crushed when fully tightened into place.
I made replacement parts in aluminum and did repairs with epoxy putty.
Not pretty, but durable and paint is an option when I feel motivated.
I want high quality wool socks and I enjoy the challenge.... so I am happy enough with my machine.
.
I have subscribed so I can learn more about knitting machines.
I like your video style.
I have the Brother 840 and am lost in using all the attachments. I have done the punch card feature, and even made a bumble bee pattern on my Cricket. I have never done the lace cartridge and would love to learn how it works. So far it has been a very expensive sock maker. I hope you continue to use this machine in demonstrations. I have the motif clips and haven't used them either. If I don't learn to do more with machine it will be packed away or sold which is sad, I had such high hopes of making things.
Oh, you might already know this but there should be some wee clips in there so you can loop the punch card around and clip it in a circle and then you can just keep on knitting the pattern.
I just saw the clips at the Cairns show. Hoping to get some from the nice lady demonstrating her knitting machine.
There’s a section in the manual for how to repack everything, at least there is in my Brother copy. Though it’s always the bit that frustrates me as it never seems to go back smoothly 😀. I keep the punch cards in a separate folder to keep them flat and undamaged as they can get caught up in the reader if they are bent. As already mentioned there are plastic clips (a bit like pop studs) to turn the cards into a loop for continuous knitting, mine are bright green.
The grease all over everything is probably intentional, to keep it from rusting during shipping. Though I wouldn't have expected it on chrome plated parts like the extension rails.
Packing grease back in the day the dealer would clean machine and check over before customer collected
That says a lot about the quality of the steel and plating...the manufacturer expects possible rust spots in warehousing and transport while 30 years old brother machine stored in a humid shed still looks spotless.
A sock machine 😮
All these home knitting machines are cool. I enjoy watching and learning. Maybe one day I’ll own a machine lol
We have a small knitting shop relatively close to me in Waynesboro PA called the Knitting Cottage where I took a class with Mary Anne Oger in 2019 . They had this machine and a Brother 230 clone out for sale. It's a significant investment for a clone machine and almost no dealer support. I'm happy they're being made but, not sure if I would buy one.
So there are 3 Brother knitting machine "clones" out there. They are all Chinese/Taiwanese brands, but they are Taitexma, Creative, and Artisan. These three brands are basically exact copies of the older Brother machines and function exactly the same way.
There are several companies in different countries that reproduce the brother punchcard knitting machine (creative, nova, taitexma etc). Brother punchcard machines are also lighter than brother computer knitting machines (except KH 900). I have noticed with several of my original brother machines that they were being continually redesigned and some small features were scrapped because they became unneccessary or made easier to use or to save resources...and of course new features introduced. My knowledge based on punchies from 800 to 895, but also 900-950 computer models.
I'm only 3 minutes in and hearing it's from Taiwan gives me hope that I can get one (cause I'm in Singapore) 🎉
Looks very similar to my brother KH-891. A while ago I bought a brand new in box Brother KH-891 of a house clearing for ONLY £100. I was so cheap that I felt bad for the owner... Anyway, I have not had chance to try it yet as I believe I need to service the machine before the first use (even though it is practically new). I am watching your vids to get started...
Feed the TH-cam algorithm. Thanks!
I brought a brother 860.That's brand new.It was shoved in a closet for over 30 years, I.Replaced the sponge burger.
And I could tell you that's an exact clone
So the difference is probably in the materials used
Punchcards! ❤️ It's the coolest thing 😁
I've been wondering about those machines... Your machine was difficult to open due to probably being tossed around during delivery. Thanks!
Just a suggestion, maybe take a poll on what people what to see? LK150 gets a lot of views. The flatbed socks, first sweater. If you are trying to get people back into knitting machines it is not with the AYAB crowd. It is LK150 and standard bed without ribber. A poll would be interesting.
I like this fascinating riveting content. 😊. You can use little clamps to loop the punch card so you can knit with the pattern repeating continuously.
I prefer the punchcard facility over electronic, less to go wrong for me. 🇬🇧👍just make sure you keep the punchcards flat and out of the sun as it destroys them, they go brittle and disintegrate.
Stumbled across your channel a few days ago, now I am hooked (no pun) and want a knit machine. The wife thinks I'm crazy.
What are your tomatoes in?
Lots fb marketplace I got one for 100
All the grease on the metal parts is to prevent metal items from rusting during storage and shipping so that you don't buy a new machine and it arrives rusty because of the humidity in the warehouse it has been in. Its expected to clean that shipping oil off the parts when you receive it.
MC=main color
CC=contrast color
Hi there, thanks for the video. I have been looking at this brand. Wanted to ask if you could include in review on the yarn size, and I believe there is a version that does a double knit (DK). I have tried to go on the link, but for some reason does not want to go on the site, could be to do with been in a different country. I am very interested in the double knit version, if you could mention the other sizes, it would be appreciated.
Now this is interesting. Actually all of it’s interesting.
The Taitexma TH260 would be what you're looking for. It's a clone of the Brother 260 if you're looking for used. The 260 or the Silver Reed SK-155.
The Sk-155 has a 12 stick punchcard not a 24 stitch but, it's still sold new in limited numbers.
What do you mean by doing a double knit? 19:44
My question was in response to the comment by @aldosmachineknitting. 22:08
@@MillieFrum The double Knit or DK yarn is the most common type of yarn used in domestic home industries. The yarn is used mostly with hand knitting, the hand needle been a 4mm size. I believe there is a Texima that works only with this yarn, never seen one. If you know about this machine and you could mention it that would be great. If not then it does not exist. Thanks all the best.
The SM selection may also be what other machine call Intarsia.
The oil is to protect the parts from going rusty
i want to learn to machine knit so bad!!! I'm over here crocheting a baby hat as I watch this haha
The grease is maybe to stop stuff rusting? Cast on combs from brother never lined up either! 😂
How much is the machine? I can't find a price on the webside
Silver Reed sells knitting machine oil
I have the same machine. What type of yarn are you using?
Things can get odd when old equipment designs are re-used. I have a Taitexma 160 that has the KnitLeader tripper -- but the knitting bed has no brackets to hold a KnitLeader. It does look as though your model has the brackets, though.
Where do you find knitting machines? I just want one
Do they have a new bulky version ???
I have a Taitexma 160 knitter-ribber pair. It's mid-gauge (6mm) and is very basic compared to the 860; no punch cards, no button-driven selection (any needle selection is manual). I also noted the quality issues shown in the video, plus it seems that the cast-on combs are inappropriately rough and 'snaggy' given their intended use. Still, it's a serviceable machine for stockinette and ribbing. I believe there are punch card versions available as well; just search for "Taitexma."
Comment for the algorithm!
Do they do clones of any other Brother machines? I really want a machine that does garter stitch but they seem very hard to come by.
They make a 260 clone (9mm punch card) and a machine called the 160. the carriage looks like a silver reed. It's odd because the clone is a 6mm machine. I have the SR SK-160 and it's a 6.5mm machine. I also think someone is making a clone of the Brother 230 (9mm no punch card)
Garter stitch machines didn't really catch on in the home market. You need to opposing beds like the penguin machines. Garter bars aren't difficult to learn but, I wouldn't want to use one every day.
@@raycreveling1583 Thanks for the info!
You can do garter stitch with a Garter Carriage. It is an electronic addition and will knit automatically.
@@RitaMcKerrell True but, the garter carriage has some serious drawbacks.
1) It only works on specific Brother machines and Brother machines only.
2) it's not made anymore,.
3) The needle is expensive to replace and not made any more.
4) It's slow. They call it the turtle for a reason
5) it's noisy even by knitting machine standards.
@@raycreveling1583 These are all valid cons. However, I do love mine ;-)
“A cold” … I wish you the best in your healing, but please test for covid. We’re in a massive surge right now, it’s so bad they’re requiring masks at the tour de france. It seems like every other TH-camr has to make a vague disclaimer about their illness right now, it’s incredibly alarming. Please take care of yourself so we can continue to enjoy your expertise for years to come!! ❤
Is it possible the oil container leaked as it is soft plastic?
Nope, nothing else was greasy, just the metal parts.
@@KnitFactoryImpl I'm pretty sure that's to keep them from oxidizing during transportation / storage.
😍
The grease is to stop it going rusty.
Not Taiwanese, I'm pretty sure it's Chinese. Certainly not up to the Japanese standars, you can feel the cheaper plastics and the metal parts, but it's a good option if you want a new machine. I know from a local dealer that they need to be adjusted and checked by expert technicians before use, to make sure they work propery 100%
I wonder if your oil bottle leaked . . .
Have always heard negative things about that one.
Ok I went in the dealers site it looks soooooo sketchy
You’re gonna need a bigger house.
If that's not a Brother I'll...eat my hat...China doesn't respect trademarks. Or waited for Brother patent to expire? Even the layout inside the lid is identical!