The terminology reminds me of the days when IBM called their mainframe drives "Direct Storage" devices. They would not use the term "Random Access Device", deeming it to give the wrong impression. Beyond that it seems to be easier to connect to than a Fibre Channel external drive system.
Nice guide. Thanks. Would have been interesting if all 4 physical drives could be raided and then add raid5 or 6. Also raiding the M.2 drives would be nice.
Im not sure if I should get the OWC Thunderbay Enclosure with Thunderbolt 4 or this one with the slower USB 3.2 Gen 2 connection ? What would you say is better for Video editing off of with my M4 MAX Macbook Pro I just got ?
If you connect the DAS to you laptop and make your laptop shareable, then what is on the das should be available on the network. This seems better than network storage,
your opinion of this for a movie & tv show plex server library via a 2012 mac mini? i’m currently simply using an external 14tb seagate drive backed up w/carbon copy cloner on another external 14tb seagate. thanks for your videos.
The key is that "single" doesn't mean as "one" drive, it means they are individual drives. JBOD doesn't mean they are individual and so you see them as just a bunch of disks, but rather it s a collection of disks combined as one logical volume without any redundancy or performance benefits. For the D8 that means in Single mode you see 2 disks and in JBOD mode you see 1.
I just purchased 4 Seagate IronWolf 10TB HDDs. It's mainly for desktop storage at home and I'd like to work with the m2. What recommendations would you give me for which RAID to use? I was thinking about RAID 5 or RAID 10. As for the m2, I was looking at the Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB. To work with them only on the most current projects. What do you think of those options? Thanks!
@@GaryExplains Thanks! You are absolutely right. I have only been able to set up RAID 1 on the first two HDDs. I already have the 4 10TB HDDs installed on this NAS, but I have a problem. I want to put the Samsung m2 disks as if they were a single unit. I have tried everything and even the MiniTool Partition Wizard tool. I have not been able to make it convert the disks to dynamic, I have tried everything and I am desperate. I would like to have the m2 as a single unit in Windows 10. Is that possible?
Personally it’s perfect for me. RAID the first two for backups and the others can either be raided natively on Mac if I want or I can use them individually just for storage space or a “Time Machine”
I ordered one last night. I can’t really consider it to be slow. I’m into audio and load a lot of virtual instruments that take up many gigs of storage and ram when loaded . 900MBps would be just fine. The second or two I would gain from 4-5-7 gig a second don’t really matter. Infact my internal MacBook Pros storage is around 7gig a second I think? And I wasn’t that impressed compared to a USB 3 SSD at 500MBps
games? whatever... i only want speed for watching stuff like movies or whatever, storage is for storing, UL or DL speed isnt critical at all, persistence of stored data is what REALLY is a concern
Here is the link to the D8 Hybrid Kickstarter page: kck.st/3UBxmaV
nice work Gary, I love that you simulated a drive failure just to see how it all responds.
I'm in the market for this D8 Hybrid. Out of several review videos on this device, your video is the best by far. Subscribed.. Thank you!
Very useful! Thank you for the information!
Glad it was helpful!
The terminology reminds me of the days when IBM called their mainframe drives "Direct Storage" devices. They would not use the term "Random Access Device", deeming it to give the wrong impression.
Beyond that it seems to be easier to connect to than a Fibre Channel external drive system.
Good discussion that points out a number of scenarios that can impede performance.
Nice guide. Thanks. Would have been interesting if all 4 physical drives could be raided and then add raid5 or 6. Also raiding the M.2 drives would be nice.
Im not sure if I should get the OWC Thunderbay Enclosure with Thunderbolt 4 or this one with the slower USB 3.2 Gen 2 connection ?
What would you say is better for Video editing off of with my M4 MAX Macbook Pro I just got ?
How many lanes have these M2 controller?
X2, X3 or X4?
Can you say if is it hot swap? thanks for your response
why are DAS enclosures so bloody expensive?
Sounds nice for the Kickstarter price. For 100 more I would miss more raid options and a NAS mode or second usb host
Thanks. It's on the short list.
Doesn't Orico already make these? Not sure if they are USB 3.2 but they have a massive range of very similar raid and non raid USB-C storage arrays.
If you connect the DAS to you laptop and make your laptop shareable, then what is on the das should be available on the network. This seems better than network storage,
Indeed. You can also connect it to an existing NAS or a Raspberry Pi.
Better to connect it to a Raspberry Pi 5 with Open Media Vault or used ex business micro PC with TrueNAS Scale.
It’s useable, not sure if better, you pay double electricity, have flaky usb connection and still need the extra notebook.
Can you link a great usb c cabe. Great video
your opinion of this for a movie & tv show plex server library via a 2012 mac mini? i’m currently simply using an external 14tb seagate drive backed up w/carbon copy cloner on another external 14tb seagate. thanks for your videos.
compare to 56g/40g/25g nas or dual nas
MegaBYTES per second! thank you for the explicit enunciation for all those mega BIT people!
At 7:00, your explanation of Single and JBOD appear to be reversed. I think you mispoke.
I just went back and listened again, I don't think I misspoke.
The key is that "single" doesn't mean as "one" drive, it means they are individual drives. JBOD doesn't mean they are individual and so you see them as just a bunch of disks, but rather it s a collection of disks combined as one logical volume without any redundancy or performance benefits. For the D8 that means in Single mode you see 2 disks and in JBOD mode you see 1.
I just purchased 4 Seagate IronWolf 10TB HDDs. It's mainly for desktop storage at home and I'd like to work with the m2. What recommendations would you give me for which RAID to use? I was thinking about RAID 5 or RAID 10. As for the m2, I was looking at the Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB. To work with them only on the most current projects. What do you think of those options? Thanks!
The D8 can only raid the first two HDDs.
@@GaryExplains Thanks! You are absolutely right. I have only been able to set up RAID 1 on the first two HDDs. I already have the 4 10TB HDDs installed on this NAS, but I have a problem. I want to put the Samsung m2 disks as if they were a single unit. I have tried everything and even the MiniTool Partition Wizard tool. I have not been able to make it convert the disks to dynamic, I have tried everything and I am desperate. I would like to have the m2 as a single unit in Windows 10. Is that possible?
M1 Air is USB4 and should reach 10gbits.
Unfortunately, what it should do and what it does do are two different things!
Kind of stupid you can't use all four traditional drives in a RAID array
Personally it’s perfect for me. RAID the first two for backups and the others can either be raided natively on Mac if I want or I can use them individually just for storage space or a “Time Machine”
Slow but cheap might be my thing
I ordered one last night. I can’t really consider it to be slow. I’m into audio and load a lot of virtual instruments that take up many gigs of storage and ram when loaded . 900MBps would be just fine. The second or two I would gain from 4-5-7 gig a second don’t really matter. Infact my internal MacBook Pros storage is around 7gig a second I think? And I wasn’t that impressed compared to a USB 3 SSD at 500MBps
games? whatever... i only want speed for watching stuff like movies or whatever, storage is for storing, UL or DL speed isnt critical at all, persistence of stored data is what REALLY is a concern
Some people collect both. Either way been eyeing this since it come out.
C’mon !! Till when you are gonna keep us waiting for the Apple M4 video? 🥹