Led Zeppelin Riffs Tele vs Les Paul ( Which Sounds Better?)
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There’s an old saying amongst guitar shop owners:
“Nothing sold more Les Pauls than Jimmy Page’s Telecaster.”
I think I get it but anyway, can you explain me?
Jimmy used a Telecaster on his most famous recordings but mostly used a Les Paul on stage so that’s what people thought he used on the records.
And Slash’s BC RICH
You said that on Darrell Braun’s video too.
@@eddiegodoy5120 I don’t remember what video that is but I probably did. Hell, I’ve made the same comment twice on the same video before because I forgot that I already commented! I must be getting old.
I can see why Jimmy would use the Les Paul for live-- it allows you to be messier, play around a little more, and have fun. The Tele sounds more exact, crisp, and clean, which is what you'd go for in-studio. Both are beautiful; both do Zep justice.
Les Paul sounds bigger ... right on man
He was also known for using both in the studio at times for dubbing, they really compliment each other in that context. They also mix really well when in a live band setting that has two guitar players, creates a nice depth to the overall sound
That’s a really solid point.
He also had the back of the neck on his Joe Walsh LP #1 shaved down which became a popular mod back then. This made the guitar faster to play, I think the essence of the first 2 albums and his messy blues playing can be seen in the videos live on scandanavian TV, it's a slightly bulkier neck than a hotrod LP and it changes the rhythm of how your fingers move in quick passages / position shifting and scale runs.
Exactly Isabella, and he even indicated as much. In his words, compared to a Les Paul "It's more of a fight with the Telecaster...but there are rewards". In contrast, he stated the Les Paul's "got a stereotyped sound maybe" but he liked the sustain and implied it was less of a fight. The LP is great live, because you can be far more sloppy and hide it quite well, due to the less dynamic/more compressed tone, less twang & snap, rounder attack, less clarity, and a heavily midrange-focused tonal center.
Years later - I believe in the 1990's - when asked what his favorite guitar of all time is, his response was: "Fender Telecaster".
Les Paul for Black Dog for sure, probably telecaster for the other ones. Tele definitely has a bit more of that distinctive Led Zeppelin feel to it.
It really does doesn't it
I disagree Isaac. Les Paul is much more Led Zeppelin. Tele is more gritty.
Henrique Souza it was...? No shit? I though Jimmy was completely done with the feel after first or second album
Damien Eftekhar he used until the end, but it wasn't the same Tele, the first one was broken in the 70's, then he got a rosewood one with a b bender.
Damien Eftekhar yea and stairway to heaven also I'm pretty sure.
I'm digging the Tele for Jimmy Page. The riffs sounded better to me. He also used the Tele with the Yardbirds.
Burnt Gerbil • I concur. I think about being in a studio session, and with John Paul Jones' bass sounding so massive, a Tele's single-coils would cut through and stand out in the mix much easier. (If you want an instrument to stand out it can't be fighting over frequency ranges.)
The dragon painted Tele was given to him by Jeff Beck. Used to have round chrome stickers on it before that. A nod to Syd Barrett.
Did you know the Yardbirds have a new record coming out w/Page on it?
Yardbirds '68? Or an all new album?
Me too
I just got a TELE and DAMN!! I have been playing for years why the HELL didnt I get one before!! LOVE IT!!
Same buddy. Wanna put a tele neck on my strat now.
Started with one, worked my way through so many other guitars and have come full circle back to the simplicity (yet astounding variety) of the Tele sounds. Plus you can batter zombies with it in the apocalypse and it'll stay in tune.
I have this same experience with a fender strat two years ago. Played for almost 20 years without ever playing a strat. Picked one up and now I have no idea why I didn't do it years ago, one of my favorite guitars I've owned.
Telecaster : Hot Dog And Ten Years Gone
Les Paul : Black Dog, Moby Dick
In "Heartbreaker" the two guitars have a nice sound i think.
On Ten Years Gone, Page said that he overdubbed and layers about 21 different guitar pieces for the studio version. When he played it live, he used a Telecaster equipped with a Parsons / White B Bender.
@@Boski391 page actually used a Fender Stratocaster, a 55’ I believe, on ten years gone. It’s documented in one of his books.
He recorded the solo for "Stairway" on a Tele...still blows my mind.
yup, and most of the rhythm track was a Danelectro electric 12 string as he hadn't gotten the double neck SG yet.
@@wyrdness1 aaahhh no! The 12 string section of Stairway was recorded using Jimmy's Fender 12.
@@markhill9275 thanks for the correction.
Surprised me, but I think I like the Tele sound better. Seems a little clearer ringing out better. The Les Paul sounds almost as good.
I liked the sound of the telepaul but the lescaster was nice too 😁
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LOOOL
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Biedent wow, this was really not funny at all good job! Lol, incredible! Shut up.
Tyler L not to be a dick but I agree
Tyler L- you watch Cody ko, you don’t get to decide what’s funny
I'm a huge fender guy but the Les Paul sounds way better imo, more of that beefy/mean sound
I Agree
Well, you can't just play both guitars with the same IQ and dist level, I think that's where the video failed, since the sound setup was great for the LP but not for the Tele. Robert should have used different setups.
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@@brortiz nah heartbreaker literally sounded spot on, les paul sounded better for most tho
@@brortiz that mean, it wouldn't be a comparison anymore if both lp and tc have different eq setup for one video. Smh
"sorry that was out of tune :("
*insert les paul joke here*
Eh eh eh eee boi.😆👌
Guitar players: "Les Paul's won't stay in tune and the headstocks break"
Gibson: "ok, so you want dip switches for more pickup wiring options. Got it."
Finally, someone showing some love to the song hot dog
such a sick riff
Hmmm? Back then the recording gear was quite different from what we have now and what worked well in the studio may not have worked well at a live venue. The punch of the Les Paul with the amps that they were using then provided a lot more punch that would reach the back rows better. For clarity in the recording studio the Tele had the high frequencies that would cut through the mix when recorded but hard to control at live events.
Very true like you said I think Jimmy liked the cut of a tele for recording and the chunk of a paul for live stuff.
Not to mention the guitars are almost always double (and more) tracked, filling out the sound of the tele and giving the oomph but still retaining the clarity required for recording to tape and not muddying the mix.
hjplant I'm not to sure when he used a tele while recording but, I read once that he used a tele a lot as a studio musician prior to led zep.
Commonly accepted in guitar geek circles that all of LZ I & chunks of LZII were recorded on Tele. Later he used LP in the studio a lot more. His 59 Tele was used for the Stairway solo.
John H Hi, the guitar jimmy is most associated with during his session playing days was a les Paul black beauty. Jeff gave Jimmy a Tele when
Jimmy joined the Yardbirds. Jeff said the black beauty sucked. Jimmy had the tele bridge pickup re wound so it had a meaty sound. I believe the
Neck from that tele is now fitted to a brown ash body.
The tele actually sounds more like what we hear on the album versions of every single one you played
The tele has a lower output so really the gain needs to be hiked up just a bit when using a tele to get a proper like for like comparison. Other than that it's 50/50. I liked Moby Dick on the tele a lot though.
I was gonna day the same thing...they're different guitar; humbuckers vs single coils and higher output vs lower output. You really have to dial in your amp and pedals a little differently with each to get the best sound out of each.
I love the beefy sound of the les paul, I definitely prefer it over the twangy Telecaster. That being said, Zep's 1969 live performance of dazed and confused where Jimmy used a tele was amazing.
The Tele always sounds twangy...The song: "Ten Years Gone" really evokes so much emotion (even the clean beginning) - man, what good song writing Jimmy Page had!
Tele sounds more like Page's
playing on the records, so it's
easy to see that he used it in
the studio (sometimes live as
well, but quite rarely).
Btw. Ten Years Gone is my
favorite Led Zep song.
Cool video!
i thought it all sounded better on a tele
Tele really has that Zep sound
It just needs a tiny bit more gain to make up to the single coils
Robert Baker no disrespect to you, but I personally prefer the sound of a Les Paul.
Me too
Nice Steve Vai pic, bro. I saw him live last year. 👍🔥
The Les Paul! No shame on the Tele it definitely rocks Led!
Oh man, the Hearthbreaker would sound massive with both guitars together
(Now I got that I'm like 3 years late for this video lol)
Tele definitely. Lot more cleaner sound
That's one beeyuotiful Tele!
Agreed
@@L4NTZEN In the recording studio, it technically is. Lol
I own a 1996 Jimmy Page Les Paul, it has 4 push-pull knobs making it very versatile for playing out of phase and as a single-coil like a telecaster. With a wah and his special MKII tone bender, he was able to recreate virtually all his recorded songs on the Les paul during live shows.
That clean tone for ten years gone sounds exactly like the record when you played it on a Tele
Whether he used a tele or a les Paul in the recordings, I think the most sought after page tone was the msg live tone. Which was his lp standard plugged into a Marshall super lead.
They both sound good, but I prefer, mostly, the beefier sound of the Les Paul.
Tele for Ten Years Gone/Hot Dog, and the LP for the other three.
unconditionalmalice I agree 100%
took the words out of my mouth
unconditionalmalice Someone who has an ear for sound and tone. The exact same thing I commented!
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unconditionalmalice Always thought 10YG sounded more like a strat.
Gibson Les Paul all the way.
Always thought they had a meatier raw sound.
Man I got so many chills when you started playing ten years gone
The Telecaster sounded much cleaner and crisper than the les Paul to me, especially on 10 years gone...however the individual players comfort level with the instrument is a huge variable that needs to be taken into account. Jimi Page’s style lends itself to playing a Les Paul for live performances as there is much more “room” to hide a mistake or sloppy playing. But in the studio when the playing needed to be spot on and tight the Telecaster is the one for sure.
I likes the sound of both.You should record both of them and PAN one right and PAN one left. I bet it would sound amazing.
the painted tele Jimmy used from the Danish radio show looks so nice and sounds mesmerizing
Ten years gone sold me on the tele. Fantastic, accurate, and iconic sound
Teles also don't have the tuning problem Les Pauls do. Both sound good here, just different. That tele sounded great
You can also buy a tele for a decent price and not spent $2000 for it to come with badly cut frets and a badly cut nut.
Telecaster all the way obviously!
that nite of tele is hard to top
I think the Les Paul sounds very much more "alive" and powerful. The Telecaster sounds kind of dry and boring.
+Bob22260 Yes most of Zeppelin's recordings are dull and boring, with the exception of 2-3 tracks. That is my opinion.
Wow, I thought the opposite. One thing to consider is that in this video, he used that same gain settings for both guitars. That results in the Les Paul having more gain and the Tele less, as the humbuckers are just louder pickups. So if you like more gain, that might make the Les Paul sound better. In reality, you probably would not use the same settings, you'd add a bit more gain for the Tele.
I was replying to the comment that said the Tele sound was dry and boring. It went to the wrong place.
For Ten Years Gone I actually like both if I were to record a cover with those tones it sounds great I'd use the Tele for the clean part and the Les Paul for the distortion
My thoughts exactly :)
Page said Heartbreaker was the first song he recorded on a Les Paul.
Tone is great on both but the Tele is brighter and more defined while the LP is louder and more powerful both are great choices:)
That tele is the truth man, wanna sound like Led Zeppelin crank up that telecaster.
Stairway was recorded on a telecaster.....and the Tele sounds better than the LP. Just my opinion.....except for Ten Years Gone sounds better on the LP.
1- Tele
2- Les Paul
3- Les Paul
4- Les paul
5- Tele
I feel like in our modern era of recording it would be fantastic to record both guitars synchronized.
Les Paul got obviously the main tone perfectly but Telecaster got his own fenderesque attack wich can add some interesting punch to the whole thing.
My Analysis
Heartbreaker -sounds better on the Les Paul, but sounds more like the recording with the Tele
Black Dog - Les Paul sounds better
Hot Dog - Tele sounds better and more accurate to the recording
Moby Dick - Les Paul killed it, Tele did okay
Ten Years Gone - Les Paul sounded better/richer and more accurate to the original recording
Badger Fishing you wrong. Ten years gone is recorded with strat. Les paul sound is so far to this song.
Completely agree, I thought the same.
100% my thoughts
Exactly what I was thinking
Badger Fishing I really think the Tele on moby dick sounds better and sounds more accurate to the record
I'm a Les Paul or SG kinda guy, but that Telecaster surprised me. I like the way it sounds more than a Stratocaster. If only Fender/Squier would do the Faraday cage thing in the pickup cavities. Telecasters seem highly underrated. It's the one Fender style guitar I think I'd own if I wanted some single coil action.
less Paul not because I own one, but the telephone has too much twang
Telephone :D
lol telephone
I wrote tele but on galaxy it added the phone, lol 🤘
Les* Telecaster*
Tele is like an AM radio
At some point back in the late 80's or early 90's, when Page was asked by a guitar magazine what his favorite guitar of all-time was, he responded without hesitation: "Fender Telecaster". But favorites aside, he very much understood the strengths of every guitar he used, and which one worked best for what song and situation (studio recording vs. live concert), and used them accordingly.
I think Tele to record with and Gibson live.
Telecaster sounds warmer, and more Led Zeppelin like...I just love how the the les paul sounds though. Kinda has a heavier sound to me
yeah the LP is still bright but chunky
Drew Jacob HUH THE TELE SOUNDED WARMER YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO YOUR TEACHER AND ROB YOUR MONEY BACK
Jeffrey Z I see the internet cancer agent is checking in
Drew Jacob I was just jokin with you
Jeffrey Z I'm sensitive, don't do that :,(
heartbreaker sounds so much better on a tele
Definitely sounds like Tele is closer to the studio recording.
AWESOME video BTW!
Great theme for a video!!!
From what I have read..... Page did use a Tele on most recordings rather than the Les Paul (which was his stage gear).
For me Les Paul! Not a huge fan of the tele though. Btw, have you considered removing the scratch plate from your LP? I just did it on mine, after 15 years of playing it, and I don't understand why I didn't do it sooner! It looks so much cooler now
Jimmy used the telecaster on the first album, then the Les Paul from April 1969 on live with the telecaster back again live '77 on. Recording with Telecaster and Les Paul throughout the band's career.
Jimmy actually did a lot of recording as well as live playing with a tele, including the guitar solo in stairway to heaven. Personally I think the tele sounds better, but the guitarist is what really makes the difference and he is one of the greatest of all time.
Not really. Tele came back later on the last tour.
The Tele was only used on the first album, the solo to "Stairway" and then the B-bender Tele was used on "All My Love" and "Hot Dog".
the les paul has a very cool bite that any other guitar has.
That Tens Years Gone, i need to learn that.. beautiful!
The Tele needs a violin bow. my pick is the LP! plus it was versatile for Jimmy with the rhythm/treble switch for those Zep tones.
I need a bow now dang it
Also, his LP had coil taps on the pickups, so the single-coil neck pickup thing could be done on the LP, making it sound a *lot* more like a Tele.
coil taps and Jimmy had it wired to reverse the phase. he was trying to get a tone like Peter Green he said. What a guitar!
Page rarely used the phase reversal on the guitar. It was that way when he got it from Joe Walsh, and he sort of blows it off in one interview saying he never really played with it much. But yes, it had the phase reversal switches under the pickguard, and the taps on the volume knobs.
Use an e-bow, the real ones fuck up the strings with rosin. Uhhh, not that anything like that has happened to me... much.
Wow. Thanks! I'm now convinced Jimmy obviously used a tele to record most, if not all of the riffs you played on this video.
Les Paul just has a larger sound.. probably because of the rosewood and humbucker .. but I have to choose the LP just sounds more full and better
Gotta go with the Tele, Jimmy was infamous with that Dragon Tele in the early years.
I think of myself as more of a Les Paul guy but try to keep my mind open when it comes to what I hear. To me that Telecaster totally nails the Zep sound on most of those riffs.
I'm selling my Tele but am now not sure, (again!).
Def tele on Ten Years Gone
yup... surprised the hell out of me... especially how nice the LP sounded first... I guess the Amp was a really good proxy here, more important than the guitar.
I think maybe if he coil split the Les Paul it would have sounded better than it did, but no doubt that those single coils clean up real nice!
he recorded Ten Years Gone with his blue Statocaster
Cole Waverek I think it defeats the purpose of playing an LP if you coil split it but that's just my opinion.
TYG was actually done on a Strat.
One important point to consider: Most who have played the old LPs from 58 & 59 agree that the pickups have the clarity of a Tele. So Tele and small amps in the studio to control volume; then LP and large amps on stage for more volume and presence in the venue. Similar tone.
Tele all the way.
Jimmy actually played an all black telecaster live when he played hot dog in 1979 so yeah
I say les Paul because I'm pretty sure thats what jimmy page used most of the time plus it has this ruff sound that just makes it sound amazing
Its also true that Page used a lot of coil tapping and phase switching in his LPs pickups to get a lot of single coil sounds.
that tele sounds awesome is it a custom or a made in Mexico one?
Hi there just an American standard
Some may not know this, but guitarists doing crunchy stuff in the studio usually use a cleaner tone to get a bigger sound. Yes, cleaner is bigger, just ask Angus Young, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Peter Townsend, Steve Howe and Mr. Page himself. Jimmy Hendrix played fairly clean most of the time and his sound was huge. So, I think that in order to control the crunch and keep it articulate Jimmy Page played his Telecaster with appropriate gain dialed in on his amp and/or with pedals on most of the Zep studio stuff.
BTW, it is not a good idea to use the same settings for a L.P. and Tele. Surely the cleaner single coil pickups on the Tele want a bit more amp gain than the L.P.'s thicker-sounding, humbuckers. Even different amps, etc. would be appropriate to maximize the tone of for each guitar. Let us also remember that studio recordings and the various instruments we hear on them are usually highly processed and EQed during the mixing stage and that the overall sound is further processed and EQed during the mastering stage.
As much as it pains me, I think I've gotta say the Teletwanger sounds more accurate. 😁 I think that the Les Paul was overdriving the amp more than I expected!
if set the same, the Les Paul will clearly have a fuller sound. It's the humbuckd. You can adjust the settings for the Tele to sound almost exactly like the LP. So it comes down to taste and which guitar feels more comfortable for you playing.
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This is easily one of the best videos I've ever seen in my life.
Should’ve played some Stairway. XD
I like the tele but I feel it needed just a pinch more gain. I love the way a tele sounds boosted with a tubescreamer into a slightly dirty amp. That's one thing Jimmy did a lot, except he didn't use a tubescreamer. The overdrive pedal Jimmy used is out of my price range.
les paul sounds better. it has a richer sound. better tone.
I think the telecaster sounds too much calm, dont know how to explain...
but LP, omg, i really love it sounds, heavier maybe but i love it !
Not even close...Les Paul = BEEF!!! That is 100% grass-fed beefy tone goodness!
Got to work on your fourth finger bends, I did, it really paid off with a bit of time and support to the little guy.
Obviously Les Paul
when you're recording, you often want a thinner sound (tele) since the bass and drums carry the bottom. tele cuts thru better. also page got that really 'squeezing' sound, especially for the lead work. Most guys then used hum bucker guitars for live work because the single coils picked up too much noise and fed back too much at high volume amplification. With just a guitar, as here, the LP sounds 'better' because it is fuller and richer.
les paul
LP: Black Dog and Moby Dick
Tele: Heartbreaker, Hot Dog, Ten Years Gone
Everything sounds better on a Les Paul. Why is that? How can this sixty year old instrument STILL be the best sounding electric guitar in the world?
Andi Kravljaca I find that the LP looks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
much better but its so hard to decide....
prehistoric pigeon
What??
I love me an LP
Too much noise
I think it's because we've gotten used to it and learned to like the sound from all the classic rock stuff.
Interesting video. I'm a huge LZ fan, and to my ears the Tele is much closer to the actual album sound in every riff except Ten Years Gone, which was of course off Physical Graffiti, a later album, so was probably recorded with the LP. Having said that, I'm no expert anyway, and my stable is full of LP's. Now I'm gonna maybe someday have to get a Tele.
love your work Robert, keep it up. \m/
They sound better on an 8 string.
You will see why this comment is funny to me very soon hahaha
This type of comparison is fun, but there is so much more to a guitars sound than just the guitar. Just by positioning the mics in the studio makes a huge difference. Using more than one mic also makes a huge difference. Andy Johns has an interview on TH-cam about recording Zeppelin 2 and Zeppelin 4. He said that he remembers that Page used the Les Paul for 4 but the Telecaster on the previous albums - unless it was an acoustic song. He doesn't say anything about the much fabled Supro Thunderbolt amp that Page supposedly used...
Telecaster > Les Paul
Shots fired!!! Just kidding lol also love your profile name haha
the telecaster is very bad
Fender > Gibson
Again, my opinion
Gibson>Fender+2.10^1000
A lot of stuff, like all of Led Zeppelin 1 and the Stairway solo were recorded on the telecaster, but a majority of the rest of Led Zeppelin was recorded on the Les Paul, but I like telecasters more than Les Pauls any day
Jimmy used a rosewood fretboard tele. Not sure it would make an IMMENSE difference, but something to think about.
I think he did use both guitar for some musics, like using the Tele in some solos, but recording the rhythm with the Les Paul, and I think that he did never used the EDS-1275 for recording, he used a fender 12 strings guitar.
I bet anything if PA systems had been better back in the day, we would have all grown up seeing Jimmy on stage with a telecaster!
The Tele sounds more like the recordings to my ears. It may be his settings on the amp but I know Jimmy usually has a very bright yet dirty tone. Tele's are just naturally brighter than Les Paul's so that could be it too.
I am a LP and SG player, but I have to give all five to the Tele for suiting the part better. Moby Dick was the one that was hardest to decide. I struggle with Fender scale length tho, so stick to LP, SGs, or 245s
Jimmy appears to have cranked the highs and cut the bass when using a LP for the parts he recorded with a Tele. Still, my fav Page tones are the live ones at Madison Square Gardens with the LP and 200 watt Marshalls. Could be piecing treble, but also really warm and woody sounding by rolling off at times. That live version of Dazed and Confused is genius and his tones were so good. How does one person come up with so many really good original ideas during one jam out? I dunno.
I also wonder how often he was using the Tone Bender and also boosting with the Echoplex, because most 'sound like Page' videos never mention those - or the Supro and Deluxe amps etc he used.
The studio version of Nobody's Fault But Mine has this gorgeous flanging effect that for me is the pinnacle of flange tones.
Another tone of his I really like is the lead tone on You Shook Me. Sounds like a Woman Tone with fuzz, but has a really big reverb or echo that makes it sound huge. Tangerine I think is the other song he has a similar tone in.
p.s. I really like that LP KM you got. My fist guitar I bought in New Zealand here in 1986 was a very old J-45 acoustic made in Kalamazoo. That place name is so cool and I always remembered it. What a guitar that was! Next guitar was a pre-law suit Ibanez les paul. To this day the best LP I have ever had. I like SGs too. More of a rowdy attitude and it lets you open up more than a LP. Kind if like LP is the gorgeous nice girl and the SG is the hot bad girl. Yeah, probably should not use women as a metaphor, but can't think of a better way to explain the difference between a LP and a SG. They are not the same. So yeah: Dude, try to find a good SG (they vary a lot, so it take a bit to get a good one)
Jimmy Page is Alex Lifeson's guitar hero and interestingly Lifeson has said that he actually used a Tele in the studio to record a lot ( if not most) of the Rush material.
Thanks for doing 10 years gone. That one was actually done on a strat. As far as which guitar, Jimmy knew which ones to play for what. Cool video.
Oh wow was it really? I didn't know that thats aweosme
Ya, I read it in a book, about a blue strat Jimmy had/has. He also recorded "Sick Again" with it.
that's interesting it does sound different
Riff #5 was done on a 50's white Stratocaster on the album.
Jimmy used that telecaster on the first album and live in '69 and early 70 check the Denmark show . I think he started using the Paul by Zeppelin 3
Ten Years Gone the clean intro sounded better on the Tele but the broken up higher gain part sound better on the LP in my opinion. I believe he could have easily used several different guitars and pickups for each song. He was the master of his time in recording with multiple tracks so I have no doubt he may have used a Tele and a Les Paul on the same riff and panned the tracks. I know I do it myself and it adds a lot of depth and dimension.