I always get PTSD from worker rushes. Years ago after losing many games to cheese I decided to worker rush someone. Only my opponent was playing one of their first games. As I arrived at their base I noticed they were struggling with walling off and they said something along the lines of "Oh... I didn't know those guys could attack" I've lost many nights of sleep because of doing something so horrible.
My first ever multiplayer match, I got cannon rushed. "Why is he building pylons here? He must be an idiot" -> 2 minutes later, he had ~10 cannons and ~5 pylons. I don't remember what happened, but I know I didn't win :P
hahahahaha, I had a similar thing happen to me in warcraft III. I remember I was completely outmicroing my opponent with fiends while he was playing his first ever game. He kept getting more and more upset that i " Wouldn't stand still so he could hit me". In the end I won the game without losing a unit, but I felt pretty bad for a while about it hahaha
"I wouldn't mind living in a cave temporarily." - Harstem. Doesn't remember the time his girlfriend kidnapped him and locked him in a cave. Much Love Harstem
This is slightly more relevant for Roaches, which do the same thing - Hydras tend to lose vs anything that WANTS to melee them anyway, while Roaches are sort of okay fighting Zealots in melee under a Guardian shield.
23:22 As a certified cat person, I can say with authority that them being evil is a significant part of the charm. It's like having a cute mini leopard in your house. Some attacks are part of the deal and only display the beautiful ferocity. :)
Battery sentry seems just like a safe action for cheesy attacks. Baneling busts, drone rushes, zergling timing attack, roaches even (although that might not be possible in that amount of time with the opening zerg did)
I got a suggestion for the cheesiest man alive: TripleC - Cheese Counter Challenge Like in a supermarket, there are these beautiful counters with lots of different cheeses ... camembert, edamer, maasdamer, tilsiter ... basically everything the netherlands are about. - you name it. What i suggest in particular: You do games that resemble those cheese counters. Put as many different cheeses as possible into each single game. Blocking Expansions, Voidray Proxy, mothership recall, dark templar prism warpins, nexus battery in a blindspot in his main, forcefielding his ramp while pushing, The only rule: keep it vegetarian - no meat allowed (aka straight up usual pushes)
Well.. I don't play SC but somehow.. I watch your content and I find it amusing but today's comment about animals poisoning other animals that shifted into saying that cat people are admiring something that is inherently evil made me think: "what? that's actually an interesting question when I think about it hmm.." and then when the cats part started: "what? whaaat?? wtf? ... W.. T.. F.. :D ". Man, you are hilarious I don't know what brought me to your channel but I do know that I will not stop watching it anytime soon.
One of the first important weapons for early humans were literally just rocks. When our ancestors left the safety of trees and started migrating on foot, the ability to accurately throw was a huge competitive advantage from an evolutionary perspective. Look at well even children are at throwing things. Watch a youth baseball game and you will see 12 year old kids throwing 100 kph (unit conversion for you) pitches. Now imagine a group of humans all doing that at some predator. Pretty effective.
I love cats sooo much and I absolutely agree that being evil is just a basic character trade for them. They might be super nice too but they have some evil in them anyway
I feel like a single *capital* G should still count as a full one on the gg counter. The capital makes up for the fact that there's only one. It's like your opponent saying, "I played like crap but you still deserved the win." Please correct this in the future Harstem or I'm going to have to speak to your manager.
Throwback to math challenge you should score it as 42+(1/2×2) because single Gs should be tracked and they're funny in their own way, regular games they're typos sometimes rage induced but in this challenge you know exactly what they mean
the fists wouldn’t be considered a weapon from the biological point of view. the definition of a weapon is an object or second definition says that claws or teeth could be considered weapons. the fists would just be considered clashing body vs body i think.
Single G’s should still get a full point I think. It is the intention of type GG is what we are counting and single G’s are just typos for exiting too fast.
I like going - 14- OL-pool - EdroneE - drone. - (4) zerg - (queen) OL ` 16 drones, 8 zerglings 1 queen. * zerglings are just wide scout map, for proxies meet up at junction annoy base. POP 22/ OL comes out, larva comes up, and second hatchery goes down. Mining of gas has taken place, shoudl be 100/50/ Which lets you lair up. You cna go straight into Hydras/ and hydrlisks with zergling back ups... at this point you should be like 39 pop... and macro hatcheries... and queens galore. with evolution chambers... all around the 2:30 mark... I guess you could go early, but with the invention of queens I Liek getting them early. SO the standard build... your queen is late, you miss a larva... and get larva starved for minerals... imo... but.. you can get a larva and second larva... or tumour... but meh... Since the inception of queens and hte elongated time of the pool, it makes sense to get first it doesn't sloow you down, since hatchery is a production system, but... the larva spawns in 4/s and you can get it twice, and havea second hatchery... with the initial zerglings.. you can know what your opponenet is doing.. and decide to slow down and eco up on drones or hammer out whatever.. lol but meh.
Last game: One Spore Crawler per base is sufficient. Especially when the opponent has only Oracles. In addition, building a Spore Crawler makes you lose a drone, while with only one Spore Crawler per base no drone is threatened... 🙃
Weirdest lowko video: I went to the bar one time, it was good fun Most normal harstem video: Can cats use poison to kill things? Not like, out of necessity, just because cats are dicks. I bet they can
last game wasn’t as imba as it seemed tbh... harstem sent almost all his workers to the opponent base and lost a lot of mining doing so while the opponent lost almost no workers and was mining in his main the whole time. he was able to the double expand with little risk because he had oracles. harstem was not that much ahead after the start.
oponent’s build counters mine? hax... that was a 2 base immortal archon chargelot all in. u build a battery to stay safe and a fast robo and then 8 gates to push. the build just is made to be safe.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but u have counted multiple single gs as a full g. Saw one the other day from 6 months ago. Where’s the guy with the gg spreadsheet
@@loraxak On the highest end, it is one of the highest skill ceiling match ups. Stalker VS Stalker while constantly dodging Disruptor shots and the balls of someone blinking on your disruptors when they shoot. It is fascinating to watch. But nonetheless on the low level, anything seems cheesy. I don't get why people judge match ups of silver players when most of them don't even know hotkeys exist. You can't come to conclusions with such standards.
i think cheeses are horrible things to do and these videos ecouraging people to do so should not exist. I really had a hope to find some explanation on how to deal with worker rush cheese but no, it's pure praising of this shamefull way to play thats why i stopped playing starcraft and looking at this deminishes any desire to return
I always get PTSD from worker rushes.
Years ago after losing many games to cheese I decided to worker rush someone. Only my opponent was playing one of their first games. As I arrived at their base I noticed they were struggling with walling off and they said something along the lines of "Oh... I didn't know those guys could attack"
I've lost many nights of sleep because of doing something so horrible.
Your kind nature betrayed you
That’s a personality W in my opinion
My first ever multiplayer match, I got cannon rushed.
"Why is he building pylons here? He must be an idiot"
-> 2 minutes later, he had ~10 cannons and ~5 pylons. I don't remember what happened, but I know I didn't win :P
hahahahaha, I had a similar thing happen to me in warcraft III. I remember I was completely outmicroing my opponent with fiends while he was playing his first ever game. He kept getting more and more upset that i " Wouldn't stand still so he could hit me". In the end I won the game without losing a unit, but I felt pretty bad for a while about it hahaha
weird, I Would have said "Well, the more you know"
my dreams about it wouldn't have been nightmares, they would have been wet dreams. ;)
"I wouldn't mind living in a cave temporarily." - Harstem. Doesn't remember the time his girlfriend kidnapped him and locked him in a cave. Much Love Harstem
"supposedly kidnapped "
Good job to Robbie! That really was a gritty game.
Even lesser known fact: the alternate hydra attack animation counts a melee and thus ignores guardian shield.
This is slightly more relevant for Roaches, which do the same thing - Hydras tend to lose vs anything that WANTS to melee them anyway, while Roaches are sort of okay fighting Zealots in melee under a Guardian shield.
So it means it doesn't take into account range attack upgrades ?
@@LEpigeon888 Actually I think it does.
Trivia: hydra punch does indeed get bonus from ranged attack upgrade, but hits for full damage through guardian shell.
Robbie is a real one. What a king
23:22
As a certified cat person, I can say with authority that them being evil is a significant part of the charm.
It's like having a cute mini leopard in your house.
Some attacks are part of the deal and only display the beautiful ferocity. :)
Robbie made Protoss look as imba as Terran players usually claim it is!
Battery sentry seems just like a safe action for cheesy attacks. Baneling busts, drone rushes, zergling timing attack, roaches even (although that might not be possible in that amount of time with the opening zerg did)
Single "G" was accurate from his perspective.
"Well... It was *A* game."
Some might think: ahhh, this click bait... but deep in our hearts we know, the Captain is the cheesiest man alive.
I got a suggestion for the cheesiest man alive:
TripleC - Cheese Counter Challenge
Like in a supermarket, there are these beautiful counters with lots of different cheeses ... camembert, edamer, maasdamer, tilsiter ... basically everything the netherlands are about. - you name it.
What i suggest in particular: You do games that resemble those cheese counters. Put as many different cheeses as possible into each single game.
Blocking Expansions, Voidray Proxy, mothership recall, dark templar prism warpins, nexus battery in a blindspot in his main, forcefielding his ramp while pushing,
The only rule: keep it vegetarian - no meat allowed (aka straight up usual pushes)
"You would not like me visibly upset" - Harstem threatens to go full Hulk.
Well.. I don't play SC but somehow.. I watch your content and I find it amusing but today's comment about animals poisoning other animals that shifted into saying that cat people are admiring something that is inherently evil made me think: "what? that's actually an interesting question when I think about it hmm.." and then when the cats part started: "what? whaaat?? wtf? ... W.. T.. F.. :D ". Man, you are hilarious I don't know what brought me to your channel but I do know that I will not stop watching it anytime soon.
Love it when u just talk about some random thing like The cat being evil :D
I think harstem should also count the "glhf" to "gg" ratio :D
for a challenge vid: everytime you talk about a mistake your opponent makes you have to tell them in chat
That would be hilarious.
He doesnt do chat challenges
he wont do it because its hella toxic
He should do this against his viewers. Similar to the math challenge
Better if harstem makes a mistake he points it out in the chat!
O damn I was one of the victims in this video. I remember specifically sending out my 2nd adept like I never do lol. What a horrible thing to see 😄
Waiting for you to do the 1 base Nydus swarm host build!
One of the first important weapons for early humans were literally just rocks. When our ancestors left the safety of trees and started migrating on foot, the ability to accurately throw was a huge competitive advantage from an evolutionary perspective. Look at well even children are at throwing things. Watch a youth baseball game and you will see 12 year old kids throwing 100 kph (unit conversion for you) pitches. Now imagine a group of humans all doing that at some predator. Pretty effective.
I love cats sooo much and I absolutely agree that being evil is just a basic character trade for them. They might be super nice too but they have some evil in them anyway
"what's the worker count looking like" hahahaha
I feel like a single *capital* G should still count as a full one on the gg counter. The capital makes up for the fact that there's only one. It's like your opponent saying, "I played like crap but you still deserved the win." Please correct this in the future Harstem or I'm going to have to speak to your manager.
2nd Protoss probably noticed the early pool / gas. Was probably expecting a baneling bust.
Nice games captain! I think it's supposed to be: Complete My Na__ (Name)
I too have thought that being tickled specifically on my feet would be a horrible torture to have to endure
31:30 that perfectly sums up my ZvP experience! :D
the build order was a two-base archon immortal chargelot build that has you getting a safety battery and early robo into 8 gates when you wanna push
17:36 Moondance is a 31 second rush distance and is the fastest in the map pool.
>drone pull
>no gg
>suprised_pikachu.jpeg
The hydra "punch" is also not effected by guardian shield
im imagining dudes microing their hydras to melee range no to beat guardian shields lmao it's the new meta
Captain check Pig's one base swarm host
This is like getting checked mated by fools mate.
You should count half ggs (or just gs i guess) as .1 and eleven would be as .11. so you track it separately from the other ggs
Throwback to math challenge you should score it as 42+(1/2×2) because single Gs should be tracked and they're funny in their own way, regular games they're typos sometimes rage induced but in this challenge you know exactly what they mean
22:40 wouldn't the first weapon be our fists? unless you're talking about a held item, which would likely be a stick
the fists wouldn’t be considered a weapon from the biological point of view. the definition of a weapon is an object or second definition says that claws or teeth could be considered weapons. the fists would just be considered clashing body vs body i think.
2:50 i was yelling at my monitor get teh pylon
love the cheese vids
Harstem: “Complete Myna… hmmm”
i.e. Complete My Na(me) haha
What a legend.
Those videos are so fun.
Merci Fromage madman.
Single G’s should still get a full point I think. It is the intention of type GG is what we are counting and single G’s are just typos for exiting too fast.
No they aren’t, rofl
4th base!!! He's been head on the head 🤣😂🤣
I think you should get nydus and a few queens to get creep going on larger maps like that..
I believe Harstem should have played with Banelings later on. And/Or Lurkers too maybe.
He had too bad eco for that.
I like going - 14- OL-pool - EdroneE - drone. - (4) zerg - (queen) OL ` 16 drones, 8 zerglings 1 queen. * zerglings are just wide scout map, for proxies meet up at junction annoy base. POP 22/ OL comes out, larva comes up, and second hatchery goes down. Mining of gas has taken place, shoudl be 100/50/ Which lets you lair up. You cna go straight into Hydras/ and hydrlisks with zergling back ups... at this point you should be like 39 pop... and macro hatcheries... and queens galore. with evolution chambers... all around the 2:30 mark... I guess you could go early, but with the invention of queens I Liek getting them early. SO the standard build... your queen is late, you miss a larva... and get larva starved for minerals... imo... but.. you can get a larva and second larva... or tumour... but meh... Since the inception of queens and hte elongated time of the pool, it makes sense to get first it doesn't sloow you down, since hatchery is a production system, but... the larva spawns in 4/s and you can get it twice, and havea second hatchery... with the initial zerglings.. you can know what your opponenet is doing.. and decide to slow down and eco up on drones or hammer out whatever.. lol but meh.
I don't even play starcraft but you're fun, thanks for the vidyas homie
Lol. I wouldn't say he choose to give up his natural. There wasn't any choice.
Thats what I would like to call a "forced decision"
Last game: One Spore Crawler per base is sufficient. Especially when the opponent has only Oracles. In addition, building a Spore Crawler makes you lose a drone, while with only one Spore Crawler per base no drone is threatened...
🙃
if the opponent has 5-6 oracles they can kill the queen, the spore and all the drones... 1 spore isn’t enough.
Last game was a banger
Hydras doing melee attacks should benefit from melee upgrades
And don't call me Shirley !
It's funny because your GG counter is technically a GG tracker. YOU are the real GG counter.
lol thats so funny that he just did a "g" . Brilliant if he follows the channel.
gj Robbie, we're proud of you
my favourite series, I love it
Banger! Subbed!
Do more drone pulls, please!
Actually my favorite cheese. I love microing stuff.
great episode
Weirdest lowko video: I went to the bar one time, it was good fun
Most normal harstem video: Can cats use poison to kill things? Not like, out of necessity, just because cats are dicks. I bet they can
Harstem you need to send the last game to IODIS
last game wasn’t as imba as it seemed tbh... harstem sent almost all his workers to the opponent base and lost a lot of mining doing so while the opponent lost almost no workers and was mining in his main the whole time. he was able to the double expand with little risk because he had oracles. harstem was not that much ahead after the start.
You're a content MACHINE!
"During the election you follow your gut".....m8, I seriously fucking hope not.
I don't think a single g should count as half a gg. It's like stretching out your hand but then not shaking the hand of your opponent.
Didn't like tribal people use poison frogs in some places
But Harstem, Americans don't vote using their gut. They figure out which of the 2 candidates they can't stand, and vote for the other one.
10/10 great cheesy content today
What about the other creatures of the sea???
Cats steal your soul ;)
When will we see the 1base swarmhost nydus cheese? 😀
nice win against robbie. I was going to be upset if you GG'd that match it was still winnable
I'm gonna build blind batteries and sentries in pvz forever now
TIL hydras have a melee animation.
What happens to the gg counter when someone "ggg"?
Your Zerg cheeses are the best
maybe maphack and not blind battery?
oponent’s build counters mine? hax... that was a 2 base immortal archon chargelot all in. u build a battery to stay safe and a fast robo and then 8 gates to push. the build just is made to be safe.
Surely the CompleteMyNa = complete my name right?!
We need to answer an important question on the "single G" games: is he saying "good" or "game"? :)
some frogs are poisonous.
i love cats
Harstem, got a nice Nydus-Cheese build for you: th-cam.com/video/FH8HSBuhhM4/w-d-xo.html
Drone rush somebody with lings, then he defends it with a build, then call that build idiotic xDDDDD
Youre already being cheesy, why not follow it up with nydus- mass queen-ravager ?
13:12 Maybe he could have put down Sunkin Colonies in his bases' with ling backup?
3 per base
Sunkin colonies* POG
lol it ain't terrible fi it works
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but u have counted multiple single gs as a full g. Saw one the other day from 6 months ago. Where’s the guy with the gg spreadsheet
20 sec in and I already love it.
HAIL THE CHEEESSEE !! WPWP^^
Harstem vs Lowko Bo5 Random Cheese Strats
Did you live in a cave for more than a day when you claimed chicken sucked but it wasn't imba? 🙊
Better buy feta
I love the counting of the single G
kevin.
Hell ya Robbie
Stinkiest cheese 🧀
Cheestem
I would love for you to change your ingame name to Cheesist_Man_Alive and then just play macro games.
Cheeeese
algorithm comment
'Dirtiest cheese of all', it's because you're cheesing with Zerg huh? Poor Zerg players will always be seen as dirty.
I think protoss is considered the dirtiest race because protoss players hate other protoss players.
@@loraxak On the highest end, it is one of the highest skill ceiling match ups. Stalker VS Stalker while constantly dodging Disruptor shots and the balls of someone blinking on your disruptors when they shoot. It is fascinating to watch. But nonetheless on the low level, anything seems cheesy. I don't get why people judge match ups of silver players when most of them don't even know hotkeys exist. You can't come to conclusions with such standards.
i think cheeses are horrible things to do and these videos ecouraging people to do so should not exist. I really had a hope to find some explanation on how to deal with worker rush cheese but no, it's pure praising of this shamefull way to play
thats why i stopped playing starcraft and looking at this deminishes any desire to return