I’m a minister, and I agree with you 110% that a church service doesn’t belong at a “business” convention! That’s faith manipulation and cult-like behavior, pure and simple.
As a Christian, mass worship is an incredibly overwhelming sensation emotionally. The human body just rewards you when you're With The Group. Ever been to a concert where the audience is singing together? It's like that, but with added impact because it is attributed to God. This "worship" is clearly calculated emotional and spiritual manipulation to a concerning degree.
*Fundie Fridays* has an excellent video on the psychological impact of worship services and how they are carefully orchestrated to overwhelm emotionally & physically. It's fascinating. I think it's their Hillsong or Bethel video? I'll link it here if I find it.
Mormons have a method for inducing this feeling called "Heart Sell." It's a feeling that's pretty hardwired into us as social creatures, and can be triggered with scary reliability. It's a really fascinating phenomenon... when it's not being used for nefarious purposes, like Hannah talked about here.
My sister has been doing Monat since its inception (years. she has the cadillac), and it has been one of the saddest things in the world to watch her change so much to the point where I just ABHOR all things Monat for its cult-like crap. She has done all the MLMs (she was on Rodan+Fields before Monat) - but there's something about this one that has absolutely brainwashed her in to a different person. She used to be progressive and all about science, and now she's anti-vax, thinks her essential oils and crystals and diet are going to keep her strong, and she refuses to wear a mask anywhere. A lot of the Monat girls are exactly the same way, as evidenced here in this video. Maybe they think their shampoo will cure them of all diseases. I joke, but it's really REALLY sad to watch, especially when it's someone you love. :( (so glad I found your content)
I thought about being one of the first people in Monat Australia, but then I realised I didn’t want to spend the rest of my life being a straight up a$$hole. 😂
If it’s anything like how they “launched” in Spain (and probably Lithuania), they will have a pre launch before the launch. Meaning, the people who join will be “founders” and anyone who joins after, will be their down line. The kicker is, the products don’t launch at the same time. In Spain, one rep RANKED UP without SELLING ANY PRODUCT. She ranked up by RECRUITING!!! It’s all in her highlights and the audacity to say that she’s a business owner and did it through self determination is ludicrous
I will say, I watch a heck of a lot of anti-mlm content from lots of creators….I really love the way you break things down in a way I’d never think of myself. So good!! So glad to have stumbled across your content!
I went to a concert last week; vaccine cards were checked before entering the venue and we had to have a mask. During the show, a number of people around me did not have their mask on. I kept mine on the whole time. I wasn't entirely comfortable, but I did see some people being turned away that had unofficial looking cards or no mask, so.
The girl who says she wants to do it for the rest of her life - this doesn't even make sense because in 5 years time wouldn't you want to be moving up the ladder and starting to do project managing or some kind of other thing in the company? Literally all you can do is just sell a bunch of shampoo there's nowhere to go with it.
This might ramble. Sorry in advance. I used to be in Amway. And I wasn't a big fan of recruiting, personally, so I really tried selling the products. There's a few products that I honestly still wish I could get my hands on. And my goal was just to make pocket change every month. I didn't want to get rich, I just wanted to earn enough money to see a movie or buy a tank of gas off my "extra" income. And my upline was okay with that for the first few months. I didn't have a ton of fees (beyond buying products that I just enjoyed). But then he invited me to some massive amway meeting, and I am highly uncomfortable in church settings -which is exactly what this was. I never saw how what I was doing was unethical or immoral, and people online would flip out at me for suggesting they buy "my" products which would just make me defensive. I wasn't brainwashing anyone, I wasn't participating in a pyramid scheme. But I've been watching your videos for a few days now, and everything youre saying is accurate. My amway upline was subtly changing what he was telling me to manipulate me into feeling bad for not making more money. I was achieving exactly what I wanted - I was selling a couple products a month, buying things I liked, and had spending money that I didn't have previously. Why do I need to recruit anyone? So I "quit" (I just ghosted amway idk how to actually quit). And now I can see why people were upset at me - I was exactly moderate enough to entice people in to meet the dangerous people.
I'm glad you brought up the religious aspect. I am a Christian, and it really does bother me when some of these MLM's use faith as a manipulation tool to recruit, or keep people involved in a business that is set up for over 99% of people to lose money, or struggle. I live my faith, and my friends know it, and I've had MLM 'boss babes' slide into my PM's telling me how God brought them to me, or they felt God was 'speaking to them' or they felt it their Christian duty to contact me as a sister of faith. It saddens me because when someone fails, they may question their faith if they're not trying hard enough or maybe they didn't 'trust in God' enough to be successful. I tell these 'Boss Babes of Faith' that if God truly was speaking to them of my desires, the Leafs would have won the Stanley cup years ago...lol Great videos, and thank you for your respect towards the issue of faith :)
When people try to use "I really feel God telling me that..." (It's mostly been guys trying to tell me that I need to be with them) I usually respond by telling them " well when God gives me that message, I'll let you know" I hate when people try to use God to manipulate someone to do something they wouldn't normally do
Hate that they are expanding to Australia. Want so bad to report them for all the bogus claims they make and hope that that the TGA (Australia’s version of the FDA) will shut them down but I doubt it. Hope that a bill can come before parliament that would ban MLMs in Australia. Similar to what I heard that was happening in the UK.
I just don’t understand how these Monat reps thing they are having such a huge impact on someone’s life and get all teary eyed about it. I have a buzz cut so I don’t exactly get excited about shampoo. Also, how are you having a positive impact on someone when they are losing money? So weird.
Sunk cost fallacy! Than you. I work in mental health and see this happen with clients too often. They will have a relationship that is harmful to them but be reluctant to set boundaries or cut ties because they're hoping to get back the money they loaned the person or some other sunk cost. We discuss it, but now I have a fancy term to call it :)
Imo opinion toxic churches work a lot like mlms too, so it’s easy to get them connected with each other. In a toxic church, you’re guilted into paying/donating to the head of the church and told to tell everyone you know (or THREATEN with fear mongering) to join your church so that you get a higher social ranking in the church. My stepmom’s church worked like that, and I can still remember how much praise and crap she got for bring me with her every youth group. Obviously thats not all churches, but I would not be surprised if the poor people in mlms are also involved in things like that and think its “normal”
Long time watcher first time poster lol. You are wise beyond your years girl. But the only statement I have a different opinion on is about 'I'f the product work so well why would you have damage'. Well, I've used l'oreal Pro for years and I get damage because I use alot of hairspray every day to style my thin hair ☺ so there can be damage done with no fault to the product but due to other styling techniques. I've heard you mention a few times you don't know much about ingredients in hair and skin care. I was the same in my youth, there is a book called beauty bible by now retired Paula Bergoin, have a read if you can find an old copy or check her website, gives alot of science backed and dermalogical backed information. Keep up the great work, keep exposing these scams. Very well done video ☺
Australian here, monet will more than likely flop in Aus. The culture won't engage in it, the economy is too strong. In fact, you make more money on government payments. C'mon, Starbucks couldn't even make it here
Starbucks couldn’t make it because Australia has better coffee from Italy. Monat is a crap product and Australia probably has super great brands from proven brands. Monat has Red Clover in its ingredients which runs high in estrogen and that can cause adverse effects in pregnant individuals, cancer patients, and gall bladder issues.
I can pinpoint exactly which people in my local suburbs (Sydney) will join and how long it will be before they quit and move on to their next scam once people start joking about them at the Christmas and Australia Day BBQs. Yes Rachel from Baulkham Hills, this is a scam, and everyone is laughing at you behind your back.
Unfortunately, the culture has been American-ised enough that these sort of things do 'work' (I sadly as an Australian in my late 20s went through a period of MLM-ing) however it's mostly a certain income class that'll benefit from it because you're right - they didn't factor in that the unemployment benefits work differently here and whilst not a liveable wage as such it can still support someone enough they don't need a side hustle.
To comment on the Met Gala vs these events - yes the celebrity events "say" they have these tiered rules for the mass gatherings but are they actually enforcing them? My husband and I went to a concert last week that even though it was outside the venue said in an email prior to the event "proof of vaccination, covid test, or mask is required." We came prepared, yet we were never questioned by anyone upon entering or walking throughout the venue what our "status" was... I would safely assume the Met Gala / Emmys would be the same ... who's enforcing? It sounds like I am disagreeing with you on these events - which I am not! I think it's very irresponsible for these companies to host these events and for the attendees to go with no thought to the city mandates! But just wanted to voice my thoughts on that. Thanks for the content! Your voice is so soothing (which is weird to say, yes) and you present the content so well. I look forward to your additional videos this week! (I'm bummed I have watched all your videos and I won't be able to binge them!)
Yes that could absolutely be true about big events right now! I'm sure it's hard to police vaccination records for an event with thousands of people... I wonder if Monat was afraid that if they said that proof of vaccination/negative test would be required, that would deter people from coming and that's why they chose not to have that requirement? Thank you so much for watching and for your support!
I wonder if it depends on where you're at! I also went to a concert recently that required vaccination proof and ID to prove it's you and they actually did check when we got there. Masks were not enforced, but this venue also wasn't letting anyone in at all unless they had a negative Covid test or were fully vaccinated.
I’m guessing the Australia recruiting is a way for the huns here to top their own pyramids. They may live in a saturated market, but they recruit in Australia through social media and hope they take off.
Wow. Even if they only sold 22,000 tickets to to the conference, and even if I low-ball and say they were all bought at the $75 rate, Monat would have made over a million and a half bucks.
Also, touching your hair only creates more moisture loss and friction isn’t going to make anything on your hair strand better. They are saying this?! I mean I knew they didn’t know what they are talking about but this is truly the cherry on top!! Also, i’m commenting as I watch. Hopefully it will help your video 💕
I literally saw one rep say "this is a time-release technology and touching your hair will activate the product, helping it work better over a 7 day period". I can't make this stuff up!!!! Thank you for your support Bianca!
Two girls I went to college with are in the $5 million club- jaq and Brittany. Their lives are so unrealistic. I’ve been asked to join but I’m not interested in working 24/7. To be at that convention was irresponsible but also one of the had fake hair. Probably not the best thing to do if you are trying to play off the idea monat helps with hair growth…
Okay last one. I have been to three Paul Mitchell Signature Gatherings held in Las Vegas every July. I worked at one of their beauty schools and one of their signature salons. No where at either business was faith brought up. Not even manifestation, obviously prayer, and the like. I am so glad you said that. A professional conference I went to was focused on education, of course a new product line was launched but we already kind of knew because they hinted in months prior, and parties. The last day is usually on a Sunday.. any kind of service was never offered. Now this was 2009, 10, and 11 so i’m not sure what they are up to now. I HIGHLY doubt they changed that considering they’ve been around for 41 years. The gathering has been around since 2004 but still…. you are totally correct. No professional corporate company would include Sunday services unless it was religious based.
Thank you for sharing your experience with that! It was definitely alarming when I saw it for sure... If the purpose of the conference was simply to just educate and train the employees, a church service would seem super out of place in that setting.
So I pay 1000s of dollars to sit in a pandemic ridden stadium listening to motivational speakers from early morning to late evening that I could listen to on YT (as its always the same shit) and to watch ads for new products!!? wonderful😅
I’m looking forward to the Poshmark vs mlm comparison video. I always feel weird describing it to people because it initially can sound like an mlm situation. I had a family member ask me in a nice way if I was selling products (like mlm) and I had a strong “Nooooo, not like that!” It does have a weird overlap even though they are two totally different things. I think Perfectly Posh makes it even fuzzier because if I just call it Posh then it can get even more confusing. Also, I’m in STL. They can stay away from here next year, please.
Yay! Just finished the notes for that video today! That’s hilarious that your family member asked that 😂 I think it will be a super interesting video to make and compare the two!
That damage repair before & after was a hoot! I thought the same about the before pic: shouldn't her hair look like silk instead of straw. The after pic looks like she just used a flat iron with a leave-in conditioner. I'll stick with the stuff I get at Walmart.
I currently have COVID while watching this. If you're feeling sick, please avoid people and take the necessary precautions. It could be a cold, or it could be a much more horrific illness. Spread love, not COVID.
I know i am very late to this party but i really wanted to add something. You talked about the "opportunity" to buy 10 tickets at a time so it will be a team- kinda thing- i remember from kyäni (another mlm) how they used to try to make us buy the 10 packs to show how commited we are and to get us to promise to "make these tickets worth it" and bring 9 people in the team until next year so that they can use the tickets! No new people recruited means you'll loose the money for the tickets. I remember a lot of reps selling 5,6 and more tickets shortly before the next big convention because they couldnt recruit the 9 people and make them go with them.
Do they think that we are blind? It's super annoying to see them waving their hair around. We can if their hair is healthy or not without them moving it around. Sometimes waving their hair around can let us see if they have extensions. They can stop doing that i.m.o. In most other haircare companies' ads, they don't always have to do that. Maybe sometimes for a product that is specifically for shine, but not for every product they make.
I could be wrong, but isn't there a class action suit against Monet for hair damage? On another note, I have curly hair that tangles easily, and I use regular shampoo from Wal mart, and even with difficult hair, I couldn't imagine spending that much on shampoo!
You know what's really sad? This "all you've ever wanted" mindset. They're all talking about money and material things. What happened to time to relax and unwind, with feeling fulfilled, with being able to turn your phone off and spend time with your husband?
I don’t know how Monat works but when Younique and Limelight launched in other countries they would join under US reps. I was an exec at both companies (now anti mlm) and I had people join under me from other countries. That’s why reps get so excited. It opens up the potential to recruit in a non saturated area.
Hannah, you are so pretty! I agree with another commenter who commended the way you speak. You must be a very good script writer/note taker. You present information very well. I'm living for all this Monations coverage. I am certain that they will be covering up any Covid spreading post, so I think it's important that content creators continue to highlight it.
Thank you Divina, so sweet! They are definitely encouraging their reps to keep quiet about becoming sick, which is why it’s so important to report on it!
The restaurant my sister works at has a late night dining option (kind of like a party). They don't allow anyone in without confirmation of vaccine status.
As a Christian it’s so disgusting to me this “prosperity gospel” like Joel Olsteen uses this a lot and this is why he’s come under fire. The Bible never promises wealth and materialistic things. In fact it says we’ll be persecuted if anything. And it does say god will provide for our needs but like basic life sustaining needs and anything on top of that is a blessing from God but that is NOT what you should be seeking out of your relationship with God. You’re seeking a friendship, and closeness from God not personal wealth
re: new country launches. The current reps are able to recruit folks from the new country and add them to their current team. This benefits the current reps as that new Australian team member will build a team beneath them in that new market, and the new Australian rep gets to “learn” from their more experienced upline. I’m not sure if reps who are higher up would have known that the Australian launch was coming, but they may have already started grooming folks to join their team once the launch was made official. Because of the MLM structure, everyone needs to be a part of someone’s “team”, so I’m sure the Monat reps are jumping on the chance to bring a whole slew of new people to this “opportunity”.
Thank you for clearing that up! There have been tons of reps already saying they have Australians lined up and ready to join their team when they launch Oct 1 🤦🏼♀️
@@HannahAlonzo yahhhh that doesn’t surprise me. It’s a whole new (unsaturated) market of folks to become distributors. The challenge with new countries joining into a company like this is that there are often issues/differences when it comes to shipping, regulations etc. 🤷🏻♀️ eek
I suggest looking up the story of Christ and the money changers in the Jewish Temple if you want a Biblical example of how Jesus might react to an MLM.
Step 1, stop scrolling when YT recommends a Hanna video Step 2, click the like button on said video cause I pre know the content will be excellent Step 3, watch the video. Step 4, Proceed to go down a rabbit hole binging Hanna's videos
On their Facebook page there is a before and after of someone’s hair to advertise the repair stuff. I looked at it and thought the after hair was fresh from the salon. It was too straight and shiny to be done at home unless the person is also a hairdresser.
I wonder about the same thing about mlms launching in a new country. It wouldn't be fair to the people in other countries that hear about a somewhat unknown mlm, but their are still too many reps in it that there are no new legs left and they have to have an up line. Then the mlm launches in a new country and people could join without having an up line. That wouldn't be fair. It also wouldn't be fair for the brand new country for the mlm to have every rep from the new country have to have an up line. That wouldn't be fair either. Those people wouldn't have a chance to get in the mlm when it was little and avoid the having to have an up line rule. Either way, both ways suck and are unfair. I feel like they wouldn't make new legs for the new country and that's why they add another country. So it's less saturated for the current reps. They can get more people and keep the others even longer. So I'd like to know if mlms make new legs for the new countries or do they just put someone that doesn't know of anyone to sign up with under a random person even though they're the first in their country to join that particular mlm. That would be a great thing to know 'cause if there are no new legs being made for a brand new country for a mlm, then people need to know that and they might not take the risk and join.
I am sorry...is her hair with this 1 wash in repair...is it a differentength and color? Also one looks air dried and the other looks like they used a straightener on it.
yknow, the manipulation tactics are impressive. if i had less care for my fellow person, i'd jump right into creating my own MLM for big dollhairs. but to me, ensuring that i don't ruin the lives of others is important.
19:45 monat as a company has a CEO, who will actually be a millionaire. Forget the uplines etc and just think about the Huge Corporation who's actually producing the products and raking in profits from all of the sales. This is not a small business, you Are just working to make a CEO rich: the CEO of monat.
IF monat was so fantastic and easy to sell and get rich, then every hairdresser would use and sell it. Except we have access to thousands of excellent products, and the proper education to go along with those products. Hairdressing isn’t as easy as we make it look.
I'm Australian and got pitched recently (a year after you did this video) from a Monat rep - unsure if she is Aussie or OS however here's her pitch through DM I noticed you watching my stories lately and then I remembered you live in Australia. Because of your location, (and the fact that I think you’d be perfect for this based on your social media knowledge), I have a super amazing, time-sensitive opportunity I would love to share with you here if that sounds alright to you What's hilarious is that it's EXACTLY my social media knowledge that I found YOU and told her no please do not contact me again. Please forgive me, I did throw in after my no thank you your Monat deep dive video ! I will say this that my intention was mostly as a way to stop this lady from further harassing me (I am not expecting her to watch it - I was using it as a way to say to her to stay away from me I am not interested.)
And as soon as you walked in to the actual event with your mask on, having told the people at the door that you will wear your mask, the entire time, you could’ve taken the mask off. There are no ways to enforce that.
What really baffles me, is the cult like devotion to MLM's. The efforts that the Huns in these MLM's go to to show their devotion to the company. The effort they put in to show that their MLM company pays them etc I've had several jobs over the years. And not once was I going around bragging that Starbucks paid me for example. And I never felt the need to go through all these mental gymnastics to explain why I work for the companies I work for & or to go the extra mile to convince people how much I love the companies I work for. It just seems cringy to me. And seems to only be a thing when working an MLM The other thing I find fascinating. Is that these Huns practically throw $$ at these MLM companies to attend seminars/conventions etc. Throw $$ at them to buy their merch etc. And to boot, they do all these meetings/zooms/social media live traing things. And are NOT even getting compensated for their time 🤦♀️ In any job I've had. If there was any company specific trainings (New product releases, updates on policies & procedures etc), I got PAID to attend these meetings. When my dad was asked to go to a big industry training for a company he worked for,, he & his co-workers were flown out to the training, put up in a hotel & given a daily meal stipend. And I think also paid to attend the training too. And yet these Huns all think it's normal to not only not get properly compensated for their time for trainings/seminars/conventions. They flock to PAY to do these things
I think we all need to also realise that the population of Australia is currently 25.74 million - and as you've done elsewhere if you only factor in those who are in a certain age range ... yeh, it's not the same market as the USA. The total population of potential customers in Australia for Monet is basically the size of one city in the USA. Aussie Monet huns are going to need to expand beyond Aust real quick.
“I want every person I meet to be positively impacted by me.” Seems that lady didn’t feel like there was enough God at the convention, so she wanted to make sure to slip her own God Complex in there, too. (I mean, come on. How messianic do you have to see yourself being, that you picture yourself running around making everyone’s lives so much better, making an *impact* on them (instead of just, you know, being positive yourself and *trying* to spread cheer etc.) whether they like it or not? Like the Blue Fairy tapping cursed and frozen children and setting them free again? You don’t get to decide what kind of impact you leave on others, and the fact that you describe your goal as “want[ing] every single person I meet to be positively impacted by me,” instead of the non-narcissistic way, which would be more like, “I want to try to spread positivity wherever I go.” She’s not dictating her own behavior, she is attempting to control others. You will be positively impacted by me, or I will cut off your ear and feed it to you. Now shit up and think about how much better your life is thanks to me.” Sheesh. I’m sure she didn’t mean it to sound that way, but narcissists never realize how self-absorbed they sound, or how abnormally they express the things they believe they are supposed to feel (but don’t).
So in amway we could just sign them like normal if they were in a different country. And if someone in your Downline were to hit million dollar club, the up line would too bc of that. So for someone in a monat it would be financially beneficial for them to sign someone in Australia bc that leg would be massive most likely.
it's funny how you, kiki, cc and savanah all cover mlms and still never run out of material lol. if mlms cld only figure out ur secrets for great entertainment in an oversaturated market you all make the best videos lol
Hannah congratulations on your wedding 💒 👏 💓 I'm new to this community and I love your work ❤ I being able to talk to my sister and mother about Herbolife and amway 🌿 thanks to you 🌿 🇺🇸 Savanah Marie, always Marcó 🇲🇽 and münecat 🇬🇧
also as a religious person, how do you even hold a religious service in a place like that? where is the consecration? how do you give communion for all of those people? also is that man an ordained priest? bruh
Thank you!! I wash my hair twice a week once with Pantene and once with Redken purple shampoo for blonde hair. Then I use OGX argan oil when it’s wet! ❤️
I’m a minister, and I agree with you 110% that a church service doesn’t belong at a “business” convention! That’s faith manipulation and cult-like behavior, pure and simple.
Thank you for your input on that! Agreed!
As a Christian, mass worship is an incredibly overwhelming sensation emotionally. The human body just rewards you when you're With The Group. Ever been to a concert where the audience is singing together? It's like that, but with added impact because it is attributed to God. This "worship" is clearly calculated emotional and spiritual manipulation to a concerning degree.
Thank you so much for sharing your perspective on this! Completely agree!
Exactly this!
Summed it up perfectly.
*Fundie Fridays* has an excellent video on the psychological impact of worship services and how they are carefully orchestrated to overwhelm emotionally & physically. It's fascinating.
I think it's their Hillsong or Bethel video? I'll link it here if I find it.
Mormons have a method for inducing this feeling called "Heart Sell." It's a feeling that's pretty hardwired into us as social creatures, and can be triggered with scary reliability. It's a really fascinating phenomenon... when it's not being used for nefarious purposes, like Hannah talked about here.
UPDATE: At the time of filming I only saw 1 reported COVID case from Monations. At the time of uploading, I have seen 17 reported cases.
It's so sad, but also, not surprised.
I wonder if they have a serum or a balm or a nectar that will help with that? 🤔
Oh they have an immune support pill they’ve been promoting like crazy 😂
@@HannahAlonzo sounds legitimately…. Umm…. Great 🤷🏼♀️
I’ll stick to science 😉
As a nurse this pisses me off
My sister has been doing Monat since its inception (years. she has the cadillac), and it has been one of the saddest things in the world to watch her change so much to the point where I just ABHOR all things Monat for its cult-like crap. She has done all the MLMs (she was on Rodan+Fields before Monat) - but there's something about this one that has absolutely brainwashed her in to a different person. She used to be progressive and all about science, and now she's anti-vax, thinks her essential oils and crystals and diet are going to keep her strong, and she refuses to wear a mask anywhere. A lot of the Monat girls are exactly the same way, as evidenced here in this video. Maybe they think their shampoo will cure them of all diseases. I joke, but it's really REALLY sad to watch, especially when it's someone you love. :(
(so glad I found your content)
I thought about being one of the first people in Monat Australia, but then I realised I didn’t want to spend the rest of my life being a straight up a$$hole. 😂
If it’s anything like how they “launched” in Spain (and probably Lithuania), they will have a pre launch before the launch. Meaning, the people who join will be “founders” and anyone who joins after, will be their down line. The kicker is, the products don’t launch at the same time. In Spain, one rep RANKED UP without SELLING ANY PRODUCT. She ranked up by RECRUITING!!! It’s all in her highlights and the audacity to say that she’s a business owner and did it through self determination is ludicrous
FYI: so after Monat launched in Spain in August, the products launched this MONTH!!! So how is this business not a pyramid scheme?! 😂
Oh my gosh this is like Pyramid Scheme 101 😂
@@HannahAlonzo It is 🥴😭 But these ladies will die on that hill and say that its not.
I will say, I watch a heck of a lot of anti-mlm content from lots of creators….I really love the way you break things down in a way I’d never think of myself. So good!! So glad to have stumbled across your content!
This makes me so happy Laura, thank you for your kind words!!
I went to a concert last week; vaccine cards were checked before entering the venue and we had to have a mask. During the show, a number of people around me did not have their mask on. I kept mine on the whole time. I wasn't entirely comfortable, but I did see some people being turned away that had unofficial looking cards or no mask, so.
The girl who says she wants to do it for the rest of her life - this doesn't even make sense because in 5 years time wouldn't you want to be moving up the ladder and starting to do project managing or some kind of other thing in the company? Literally all you can do is just sell a bunch of shampoo there's nowhere to go with it.
This might ramble. Sorry in advance.
I used to be in Amway. And I wasn't a big fan of recruiting, personally, so I really tried selling the products. There's a few products that I honestly still wish I could get my hands on. And my goal was just to make pocket change every month. I didn't want to get rich, I just wanted to earn enough money to see a movie or buy a tank of gas off my "extra" income. And my upline was okay with that for the first few months. I didn't have a ton of fees (beyond buying products that I just enjoyed). But then he invited me to some massive amway meeting, and I am highly uncomfortable in church settings -which is exactly what this was. I never saw how what I was doing was unethical or immoral, and people online would flip out at me for suggesting they buy "my" products which would just make me defensive. I wasn't brainwashing anyone, I wasn't participating in a pyramid scheme. But I've been watching your videos for a few days now, and everything youre saying is accurate. My amway upline was subtly changing what he was telling me to manipulate me into feeling bad for not making more money. I was achieving exactly what I wanted - I was selling a couple products a month, buying things I liked, and had spending money that I didn't have previously. Why do I need to recruit anyone? So I "quit" (I just ghosted amway idk how to actually quit). And now I can see why people were upset at me - I was exactly moderate enough to entice people in to meet the dangerous people.
Thank you for being kind about spirituality and faith.
I actually just had TH-cam suggest one of your MLM videos this weekend and I did in fact binge them. 🙂
Oh my gosh that’s so awesome! Thank you for your support!
I'm glad you brought up the religious aspect. I am a Christian, and it really does bother me when some of these MLM's use faith as a manipulation tool to recruit, or keep people involved in a business that is set up for over 99% of people to lose money, or struggle. I live my faith, and my friends know it, and I've had MLM 'boss babes' slide into my PM's telling me how God brought them to me, or they felt God was 'speaking to them' or they felt it their Christian duty to contact me as a sister of faith. It saddens me because when someone fails, they may question their faith if they're not trying hard enough or maybe they didn't 'trust in God' enough to be successful. I tell these 'Boss Babes of Faith' that if God truly was speaking to them of my desires, the Leafs would have won the Stanley cup years ago...lol Great videos, and thank you for your respect towards the issue of faith :)
When people try to use "I really feel God telling me that..." (It's mostly been guys trying to tell me that I need to be with them) I usually respond by telling them " well when God gives me that message, I'll let you know"
I hate when people try to use God to manipulate someone to do something they wouldn't normally do
@@RachelMarotta ‘When God gives me the message I’ll let you know! I LOVE IT!! Lol Wish I’d thought of that a few times. Lol I’m using it. Lol
@@highlander6964 yes please do! It works every time.
Hey fellow hockey fan haha!
That's a better line than "sure it's not Satan?" I'm prepared to use if ever approached like that
Hate that they are expanding to Australia. Want so bad to report them for all the bogus claims they make and hope that that the TGA (Australia’s version of the FDA) will shut them down but I doubt it. Hope that a bill can come before parliament that would ban MLMs in Australia. Similar to what I heard that was happening in the UK.
I wish they'd be banned here in Canada as well. There's so many MLMs here!
Already seeing a lot in South Australia. Also known as my next door neighbor
I just don’t understand how these Monat reps thing they are having such a huge impact on someone’s life and get all teary eyed about it. I have a buzz cut so I don’t exactly get excited about shampoo. Also, how are you having a positive impact on someone when they are losing money? So weird.
As a Christian, that “church service” makes me angry. That is not God honoring.
Agreed
Amway holds optional church services at their conventions, too. It’s optional, but encouraged. Creepy.
All I gotta say is Jesus banished the people making money from his temple. One of the few times Jesus went nuclear
Sunk cost fallacy! Than you. I work in mental health and see this happen with clients too often. They will have a relationship that is harmful to them but be reluctant to set boundaries or cut ties because they're hoping to get back the money they loaned the person or some other sunk cost. We discuss it, but now I have a fancy term to call it :)
I've always kind of thought that most MLMs are a little bit "Religiousy". I went to an Amway meeting once and they started with a prayer.
Imo opinion toxic churches work a lot like mlms too, so it’s easy to get them connected with each other. In a toxic church, you’re guilted into paying/donating to the head of the church and told to tell everyone you know (or THREATEN with fear mongering) to join your church so that you get a higher social ranking in the church. My stepmom’s church worked like that, and I can still remember how much praise and crap she got for bring me with her every youth group. Obviously thats not all churches, but I would not be surprised if the poor people in mlms are also involved in things like that and think its “normal”
I appreciate your measured approach and respectful way of speaking about people in mlms.
Long time watcher first time poster lol. You are wise beyond your years girl. But the only statement I have a different opinion on is about 'I'f the product work so well why would you have damage'. Well, I've used l'oreal Pro for years and I get damage because I use alot of hairspray every day to style my thin hair ☺ so there can be damage done with no fault to the product but due to other styling techniques. I've heard you mention a few times you don't know much about ingredients in hair and skin care. I was the same in my youth, there is a book called beauty bible by now retired Paula Bergoin, have a read if you can find an old copy or check her website, gives alot of science backed and dermalogical backed information. Keep up the great work, keep exposing these scams. Very well done video ☺
Australian here, monet will more than likely flop in Aus. The culture won't engage in it, the economy is too strong. In fact, you make more money on government payments.
C'mon, Starbucks couldn't even make it here
Starbucks couldn’t make it because Australia has better coffee from Italy. Monat is a crap product and Australia probably has super great brands from proven brands. Monat has Red Clover in its ingredients which runs high in estrogen and that can cause adverse effects in pregnant individuals, cancer patients, and gall bladder issues.
I'm cringing as I see so many Aussies joining up & being sucked in right now 😣
I can pinpoint exactly which people in my local suburbs (Sydney) will join and how long it will be before they quit and move on to their next scam once people start joking about them at the Christmas and Australia Day BBQs. Yes Rachel from Baulkham Hills, this is a scam, and everyone is laughing at you behind your back.
I'm going to guess it'll be a Byron Bay thing
Unfortunately, the culture has been American-ised enough that these sort of things do 'work' (I sadly as an Australian in my late 20s went through a period of MLM-ing) however it's mostly a certain income class that'll benefit from it because you're right - they didn't factor in that the unemployment benefits work differently here and whilst not a liveable wage as such it can still support someone enough they don't need a side hustle.
To comment on the Met Gala vs these events - yes the celebrity events "say" they have these tiered rules for the mass gatherings but are they actually enforcing them? My husband and I went to a concert last week that even though it was outside the venue said in an email prior to the event "proof of vaccination, covid test, or mask is required." We came prepared, yet we were never questioned by anyone upon entering or walking throughout the venue what our "status" was... I would safely assume the Met Gala / Emmys would be the same ... who's enforcing?
It sounds like I am disagreeing with you on these events - which I am not! I think it's very irresponsible for these companies to host these events and for the attendees to go with no thought to the city mandates! But just wanted to voice my thoughts on that.
Thanks for the content! Your voice is so soothing (which is weird to say, yes) and you present the content so well. I look forward to your additional videos this week! (I'm bummed I have watched all your videos and I won't be able to binge them!)
Yes that could absolutely be true about big events right now! I'm sure it's hard to police vaccination records for an event with thousands of people... I wonder if Monat was afraid that if they said that proof of vaccination/negative test would be required, that would deter people from coming and that's why they chose not to have that requirement? Thank you so much for watching and for your support!
I wonder if it depends on where you're at! I also went to a concert recently that required vaccination proof and ID to prove it's you and they actually did check when we got there. Masks were not enforced, but this venue also wasn't letting anyone in at all unless they had a negative Covid test or were fully vaccinated.
I’m guessing the Australia recruiting is a way for the huns here to top their own pyramids. They may live in a saturated market, but they recruit in Australia through social media and hope they take off.
Colonization: the hun edition
Spot on with the points you’ve made about the before & after images! I was thinking the same thing.
Wow. Even if they only sold 22,000 tickets to to the conference, and even if I low-ball and say they were all bought at the $75 rate, Monat would have made over a million and a half bucks.
Also, touching your hair only creates more moisture loss and friction isn’t going to make anything on your hair strand better. They are saying this?! I mean I knew they didn’t know what they are talking about but this is truly the cherry on top!! Also, i’m commenting as I watch. Hopefully it will help your video 💕
I literally saw one rep say "this is a time-release technology and touching your hair will activate the product, helping it work better over a 7 day period". I can't make this stuff up!!!! Thank you for your support Bianca!
Two girls I went to college with are in the $5 million club- jaq and Brittany. Their lives are so unrealistic. I’ve been asked to join but I’m not interested in working 24/7. To be at that convention was irresponsible but also one of the had fake hair. Probably not the best thing to do if you are trying to play off the idea monat helps with hair growth…
SO many Monat huns have hair extensions! Like, what? 🤔
Okay last one. I have been to three Paul Mitchell Signature Gatherings held in Las Vegas every July. I worked at one of their beauty schools and one of their signature salons. No where at either business was faith brought up. Not even manifestation, obviously prayer, and the like. I am so glad you said that. A professional conference I went to was focused on education, of course a new product line was launched but we already kind of knew because they hinted in months prior, and parties. The last day is usually on a Sunday.. any kind of service was never offered. Now this was 2009, 10, and 11 so i’m not sure what they are up to now. I HIGHLY doubt they changed that considering they’ve been around for 41 years. The gathering has been around since 2004 but still…. you are totally correct. No professional corporate company would include Sunday services unless it was religious based.
Thank you for sharing your experience with that! It was definitely alarming when I saw it for sure... If the purpose of the conference was simply to just educate and train the employees, a church service would seem super out of place in that setting.
Dammmnnn, Hannah went HARDDDD today; I felt called out and I’m not in Monat 🤣
So I pay 1000s of dollars to sit in a pandemic ridden stadium listening to motivational speakers from early morning to late evening that I could listen to on YT (as its always the same shit) and to watch ads for new products!!? wonderful😅
Precisely!
16:26 the problem with this is they really believe they’re changing lives and what they’re doing is RUINING lives.
I’m looking forward to the Poshmark vs mlm comparison video. I always feel weird describing it to people because it initially can sound like an mlm situation. I had a family member ask me in a nice way if I was selling products (like mlm) and I had a strong “Nooooo, not like that!” It does have a weird overlap even though they are two totally different things. I think Perfectly Posh makes it even fuzzier because if I just call it Posh then it can get even more confusing.
Also, I’m in STL. They can stay away from here next year, please.
Yay! Just finished the notes for that video today! That’s hilarious that your family member asked that 😂 I think it will be a super interesting video to make and compare the two!
That damage repair before & after was a hoot! I thought the same about the before pic: shouldn't her hair look like silk instead of straw. The after pic looks like she just used a flat iron with a leave-in conditioner.
I'll stick with the stuff I get at Walmart.
I currently have COVID while watching this. If you're feeling sick, please avoid people and take the necessary precautions. It could be a cold, or it could be a much more horrific illness. Spread love, not COVID.
The way you talked about the religious part at the end was very well done!
Thank you! I was trying to balance on a very difficult line so I appreciate you saying that!
It is simply a cult.
That’s what I’m saying!! 🙌🏼
I know i am very late to this party but i really wanted to add something. You talked about the "opportunity" to buy 10 tickets at a time so it will be a team- kinda thing- i remember from kyäni (another mlm) how they used to try to make us buy the 10 packs to show how commited we are and to get us to promise to "make these tickets worth it" and bring 9 people in the team until next year so that they can use the tickets! No new people recruited means you'll loose the money for the tickets. I remember a lot of reps selling 5,6 and more tickets shortly before the next big convention because they couldnt recruit the 9 people and make them go with them.
Do they think that we are blind? It's super annoying to see them waving their hair around. We can if their hair is healthy or not without them moving it around. Sometimes waving their hair around can let us see if they have extensions. They can stop doing that i.m.o. In most other haircare companies' ads, they don't always have to do that. Maybe sometimes for a product that is specifically for shine, but not for every product they make.
As someone that was raised very Christian, this would still weird me out if I went to a work retreat and had to go to a mass worship with my coworkers
I could be wrong, but isn't there a class action suit against Monet for hair damage? On another note, I have curly hair that tangles easily, and I use regular shampoo from Wal mart, and even with difficult hair, I couldn't imagine spending that much on shampoo!
You know what's really sad? This "all you've ever wanted" mindset. They're all talking about money and material things. What happened to time to relax and unwind, with feeling fulfilled, with being able to turn your phone off and spend time with your husband?
I don’t know how Monat works but when Younique and Limelight launched in other countries they would join under US reps. I was an exec at both companies (now anti mlm) and I had people join under me from other countries. That’s why reps get so excited. It opens up the potential to recruit in a non saturated area.
Girl why you making me suffer 😭 I don’t want to wait 2 hours lol
Just trying out the Premiere feature for uploading videos, never used it before and I wanted to see how it works! 😂❤️
As a licensed cosmetologist and someone who has had training about Olaplex from both my school and my salon…. This enraged me 💀
Hannah, you are so pretty! I agree with another commenter who commended the way you speak. You must be a very good script writer/note taker. You present information very well. I'm living for all this Monations coverage. I am certain that they will be covering up any Covid spreading post, so I think it's important that content creators continue to highlight it.
Thank you Divina, so sweet! They are definitely encouraging their reps to keep quiet about becoming sick, which is why it’s so important to report on it!
The restaurant my sister works at has a late night dining option (kind of like a party). They don't allow anyone in without confirmation of vaccine status.
As a Christian it’s so disgusting to me this “prosperity gospel” like Joel Olsteen uses this a lot and this is why he’s come under fire. The Bible never promises wealth and materialistic things. In fact it says we’ll be persecuted if anything. And it does say god will provide for our needs but like basic life sustaining needs and anything on top of that is a blessing from God but that is NOT what you should be seeking out of your relationship with God. You’re seeking a friendship, and closeness from God not personal wealth
re: new country launches. The current reps are able to recruit folks from the new country and add them to their current team. This benefits the current reps as that new Australian team member will build a team beneath them in that new market, and the new Australian rep gets to “learn” from their more experienced upline.
I’m not sure if reps who are higher up would have known that the Australian launch was coming, but they may have already started grooming folks to join their team once the launch was made official.
Because of the MLM structure, everyone needs to be a part of someone’s “team”, so I’m sure the Monat reps are jumping on the chance to bring a whole slew of new people to this “opportunity”.
Thank you for clearing that up! There have been tons of reps already saying they have Australians lined up and ready to join their team when they launch Oct 1 🤦🏼♀️
@@HannahAlonzo yahhhh that doesn’t surprise me. It’s a whole new (unsaturated) market of folks to become distributors. The challenge with new countries joining into a company like this is that there are often issues/differences when it comes to shipping, regulations etc. 🤷🏻♀️ eek
How did her hair get so much longer after just one use??? Magic 😍😍.
Someone else said this too! I’m wondering if it could be because the “after” was clearly straighter and smoother that it looked longer? 🤷🏼♀️
@@HannahAlonzo Maybe - or just possibly the photos aren’t telling the exact truth 🤔.
Keep Monat away from Australia :(
I am with you on that. Bugger off Monat
I suggest looking up the story of Christ and the money changers in the Jewish Temple if you want a Biblical example of how Jesus might react to an MLM.
12 people gone🥺 that’s so sad🙏🏼 they only care about their money.
Step 1, stop scrolling when YT recommends a Hanna video
Step 2, click the like button on said video cause I pre know the content will be excellent
Step 3, watch the video.
Step 4, Proceed to go down a rabbit hole binging Hanna's videos
A cult!!!! That 'church' session is so bizarre!!!!
You are such a compassionate person x
As a hair dresser that does use olaplex products on my own hair I am super curious now to learn about it they actually ripped off olaplex.
On their Facebook page there is a before and after of someone’s hair to advertise the repair stuff. I looked at it and thought the after hair was fresh from the salon. It was too straight and shiny to be done at home unless the person is also a hairdresser.
I wonder about the same thing about mlms launching in a new country. It wouldn't be fair to the people in other countries that hear about a somewhat unknown mlm, but their are still too many reps in it that there are no new legs left and they have to have an up line. Then the mlm launches in a new country and people could join without having an up line. That wouldn't be fair. It also wouldn't be fair for the brand new country for the mlm to have every rep from the new country have to have an up line. That wouldn't be fair either. Those people wouldn't have a chance to get in the mlm when it was little and avoid the having to have an up line rule. Either way, both ways suck and are unfair. I feel like they wouldn't make new legs for the new country and that's why they add another country. So it's less saturated for the current reps. They can get more people and keep the others even longer. So I'd like to know if mlms make new legs for the new countries or do they just put someone that doesn't know of anyone to sign up with under a random person even though they're the first in their country to join that particular mlm. That would be a great thing to know 'cause if there are no new legs being made for a brand new country for a mlm, then people need to know that and they might not take the risk and join.
Great work digging into the fraud known as monat.
Rodan just had their convention this past weekend as well 🤦🏻♀️
Need your thoughts on the herbal life riveria maya trip!
I am sorry...is her hair with this 1 wash in repair...is it a differentength and color? Also one looks air dried and the other looks like they used a straightener on it.
yknow, the manipulation tactics are impressive. if i had less care for my fellow person, i'd jump right into creating my own MLM for big dollhairs. but to me, ensuring that i don't ruin the lives of others is important.
The covid part aged poorly 😂
19:45 monat as a company has a CEO, who will actually be a millionaire. Forget the uplines etc and just think about the Huge Corporation who's actually producing the products and raking in profits from all of the sales. This is not a small business, you Are just working to make a CEO rich: the CEO of monat.
Aw man! We don't want them in Missouri 🙄
Haha is that where you live?? They’re coming for you sister! 😂
@@HannahAlonzo unfortunately 😂😂, luckily I'm about 2 hours from St Louis.
Missed the premiere, but I’m here now 👋
Thanks for being here Raychul!
@@HannahAlonzo no problem, I’m like a hun, you can’t get rid of me once I engage 😂😂
“You did pay thousands “ 😂
I mean, it’s true 🤷🏼♀️😂
IF monat was so fantastic and easy to sell and get rich, then every hairdresser would use and sell it.
Except we have access to thousands of excellent products, and the proper education to go along with those products. Hairdressing isn’t as easy as we make it look.
My hairdresser said she wouldn’t touch this stuff with a ten foot pole, and she has a HUGE following and I’m sure could “rank up” fast! 17:12
Do this forever?!...selling shampoo "changes lives"? These people are losing so much.
I'm Australian and got pitched recently (a year after you did this video) from a Monat rep - unsure if she is Aussie or OS however here's her pitch through DM
I noticed you watching my stories lately and then I remembered you live in Australia. Because of your location, (and the fact that I think you’d be perfect for this based on your social media knowledge), I have a super amazing, time-sensitive opportunity I would love to share with you here if that sounds alright to you
What's hilarious is that it's EXACTLY my social media knowledge that I found YOU and told her no please do not contact me again. Please forgive me, I did throw in after my no thank you your Monat deep dive video ! I will say this that my intention was mostly as a way to stop this lady from further harassing me (I am not expecting her to watch it - I was using it as a way to say to her to stay away from me I am not interested.)
And as soon as you walked in to the actual event with your mask on, having told the people at the door that you will wear your mask, the entire time, you could’ve taken the mask off. There are no ways to enforce that.
What really baffles me, is the cult like devotion to MLM's. The efforts that the Huns in these MLM's go to to show their devotion to the company. The effort they put in to show that their MLM company pays them etc
I've had several jobs over the years. And not once was I going around bragging that Starbucks paid me for example. And I never felt the need to go through all these mental gymnastics to explain why I work for the companies I work for & or to go the extra mile to convince people how much I love the companies I work for.
It just seems cringy to me. And seems to only be a thing when working an MLM
The other thing I find fascinating. Is that these Huns practically throw $$ at these MLM companies to attend seminars/conventions etc. Throw $$ at them to buy their merch etc. And to boot, they do all these meetings/zooms/social media live traing things. And are NOT even getting compensated for their time 🤦♀️
In any job I've had. If there was any company specific trainings (New product releases, updates on policies & procedures etc), I got PAID to attend these meetings.
When my dad was asked to go to a big industry training for a company he worked for,, he & his co-workers were flown out to the training, put up in a hotel & given a daily meal stipend. And I think also paid to attend the training too.
And yet these Huns all think it's normal to not only not get properly compensated for their time for trainings/seminars/conventions. They flock to PAY to do these things
“It’s easier to give birth then to resurrect the dead. “Is it is a direct quote from Ted Dubois. I’m not sure if you already knew that
I can't imagine paying such prices for shampoo 🤷♀️🤦♀️
Especially when a dozen eggs is over $6 right now.
I think we all need to also realise that the population of Australia is currently 25.74 million - and as you've done elsewhere if you only factor in those who are in a certain age range ... yeh, it's not the same market as the USA. The total population of potential customers in Australia for Monet is basically the size of one city in the USA. Aussie Monet huns are going to need to expand beyond Aust real quick.
Interesting video, but I must say gorgeous nail polish colour.
I love all your content! But would love more posh mark 💖
Love your shirt. Can I ask what it is?
“I want every person I meet to be positively impacted by me.” Seems that lady didn’t feel like there was enough God at the convention, so she wanted to make sure to slip her own God Complex in there, too.
(I mean, come on. How messianic do you have to see yourself being, that you picture yourself running around making everyone’s lives so much better, making an *impact* on them (instead of just, you know, being positive yourself and *trying* to spread cheer etc.) whether they like it or not? Like the Blue Fairy tapping cursed and frozen children and setting them free again? You don’t get to decide what kind of impact you leave on others, and the fact that you describe your goal as “want[ing] every single person I meet to be positively impacted by me,” instead of the non-narcissistic way, which would be more like, “I want to try to spread positivity wherever I go.” She’s not dictating her own behavior, she is attempting to control others. You will be positively impacted by me, or I will cut off your ear and feed it to you. Now shit up and think about how much better your life is thanks to me.”
Sheesh. I’m sure she didn’t mean it to sound that way, but narcissists never realize how self-absorbed they sound, or how abnormally they express the things they believe they are supposed to feel (but don’t).
People in MLMs 🤝 people who desperately defend capitalism
Being blinded by the tiny possiblity of becoming a millionaire
So in amway we could just sign them like normal if they were in a different country. And if someone in your Downline were to hit million dollar club, the up line would too bc of that. So for someone in a monat it would be financially beneficial for them to sign someone in Australia bc that leg would be massive most likely.
Thank you for this clarification! That makes sense why they’re so excited about getting Australians on their team 😂
As an Australian I really hope that no one falls for this crap, but I know they will. Really sucks.
@@Alyse_bell me too. I hope the word has spread there about anti MLM.
Why’s it always “gratitude” can they not say “I’m so thankful” or anything other than gratitude?! I can’t stand that word now lol
it's funny how you, kiki, cc and savanah all cover mlms and still never run out of material lol. if mlms cld only figure out ur secrets for great entertainment in an oversaturated market you all make the best videos lol
OLAPLEX IS ELITE!!! NO IFS AND OR BUTS!
Hannah congratulations on your wedding 💒 👏 💓 I'm new to this community and I love your work ❤
I being able to talk to my sister and mother about Herbolife and amway 🌿 thanks to you 🌿 🇺🇸 Savanah Marie, always Marcó 🇲🇽 and münecat 🇬🇧
The repair hair thing though, it looks like her hair has grown a good bit which means it's not after one wash.
also as a religious person, how do you even hold a religious service in a place like that? where is the consecration? how do you give communion for all of those people? also is that man an ordained priest? bruh
12 ppl died from the Paparazzi spreader event? wow.
It’s a bond repair similar to Olaplex.
Your hair is beautiful! What products do you use?
Thank you!! I wash my hair twice a week once with Pantene and once with Redken purple shampoo for blonde hair. Then I use OGX argan oil when it’s wet! ❤️
Is it weird that I’m v curious to go to monation just to see how insane it is?
So down for the longer video!
Yay!
MLMs aren't a business - they're a system.
You have a better grip on what God wants for those people than they do!
A video each day? Let’s gooooo 🙌
Love your videos 🤗 this was great! So professional and had me hooked 🤩
Btw i love the plant behind you! Great touch! 😍😍😍🪴🌴
Thank you so much Julianna! So happy you’re here! 🥰
They drank the koolaid
What an amazing teacher you are. Thank you for all the informations
DO NOT DRINK THE KOOL AIDE.