14900k undervolt settings - benchmark cinebench r23 (41432 points)
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- An option to reduce temperatures when using a weak cooler (240mm in this test). In the next video we will try to perform better than 41k through a small overclock.
In a new test and with these adjustments I I can reduce it to (-) 0.080v stable, which considerably improved the temperatures.
Any chance you could do a guid for ASU’s rog z790 formula bios? Trying to undervolt my 14900k runs at 100 c in cinebench
Same here. I got an apex encore and 14900k. The only thing I have done to undervolt my i9 is I set MCE to auto and I left svid behavior on auto and then I manually set my PL1 and PL2 to 253 watts and finally went to global svid option and set it to adaptive and -0.6. I am fully stable with this and both watts and temps dropped considerably however I am not able to go above 0.6 cuz cinebench crashes at 0.7 or higher. I feel like I can go further if I knew all the bios options. @@JackCroweMedia
Quick question, I have the almost same exact mobo and cpu. (Elite X WiFi 7, 14900KF)
If I set a negative offset of 0.05v and if I crash on cinebench, I just need to raise the LLC to counter the lower vdroop right?
Thank you so much for the video and guide! Just subbed!
@@SourKimchii Hello my friend, welcome!Thank you very much for your subscription and comment; Well you can increase the llc, or increase the vcore,use whatever brings more stability and lower temperatures.
See in the video below how you will have a better temperature when using a lower llc with a higher vcore.
12900k OVERCLOCK VOLTAGE versus LOW LOAD LINE CALIBRATION * temperature and voltage
th-cam.com/video/Yto5ot3OH64/w-d-xo.html
You can use a larger LLC without any problems, but temperatures will rise a little more, in some cases I use llc at high and very rarely in extreme.
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 Gotcha thank you! I followed your guide to the tee today except not disabling MCE and only doing -0.05v offset. Really helped my temps a lot.
One question, instead of changing the “Performance CPU Clock Ratio” to 57 could I change the clocks in the “Turbo Per Core Limit Control”? Like just setting the 2 P-Cores that go 6Ghz to 57.
friend, you're the fucking master, I don't know much about bios and I applied exactly your configuration to my i7 13700k and it works great. I got 31100 points in cinebench r23 with a maximum temperature of 85 degrees and a maximum voltage of 1.30v, usually in demanding use I go for 1.26v, before I was around 1.38 and even 1.4v the perfect undelvolt, less temperature, less voltage, more performance and more stability.
Dude thank you so much, I got a new 14900k and I was only getting around 29-30k, but it jumped to 40k as soon as I did this. THANK YOU!!
Thank you for a great video, subscribed.
I am now testing this CPU and you helped a lot understanding the concept of undervolting.
Hello CopterDeal, welcome! I am very grateful my friend. If the video was useful, your feedback helps me a lot. There are other ways to undervolt, but this is very simple.I have some videos about the other ways that I also like. Thank you for subscribing, our goal is just to exchange experiences and learn more.
Hi, did you set any PL1, PL2 or current limits in this video?
Hello Danny! Thank you for your visit, I only made the adjustments that I showed in the video, I didn't change anything regarding PL1 or Pl2 you don't need this in offset mode and using these frequencies and voltage control. Salute my friend.
Could you do a video showing best bios settings with 0x129 microcode?
Excellent advice - have 14900k and aorus xtreme-x z790 and couldn’t find working undervolt advice (in simple terms) applied your advice and ran 3d mark and cyber punk both had crashed with other previous attempts, at the -0.050 and x57 and returned to auto and remained all good, i have since changed from -0.050 to -0.080 and still appears ok…..will keep an eye out and report any issues…may try for -0.1 but maybe too ambitious. Ps my board reporting 95.75 biscuits?
Thank you for the video. How about locked voltages, what's your recommendation for 24/7 use (I have 360mm rad Arctic Liquid Freezer II RGB), it's going to do compute heavy task for 70-80% load. What clocks and voltages should I set my 14900k at? (I don't have it yet, it will arrive in 2 days, so I'm asking so I know in advance)
Hello Jelome, welcome! I hope your cpu arrives soon my friend. The 14900k is not necessary oc in the pcores using an aio cooler. He's pretty hot. For daily use you can increase the ecores to 4.5, and use a negative offset voltage. It will run at around 0.700 - 0.800 when idle and simple tasks, or at 1.280 - 1.350v under stress with good temperatures. When you start testing your CPU, feel free to come back here and we'll try to find a sweet spot for it.
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 Thank you. I understand. My 14900k will not be idle, it will be under load all the time 24/7. About 70-80% load. So a locked constant voltage like your 7950x video is preferred. Should I set it to 5.2ghz and 1.15v for the P-core and set 4ghz on the E-core?
What is the 'average' voltage and clocks for 14900k?
I need your help I have mine stock and cannot run cinebench24 without it crashing immediately
Hello my friend, what is your motherboard and what temperatures and frequency do u have before crashes?
Thanks for the video.
It helped me alot. After having constant temperature problems with this CPU. I use the same CPU with the Gigabyte Z970 Aorus Master and a 240 AIO from Corsair.
Would you recommend an older BIOS version? Does the CPU behave differently?
Hello my friend, thank you for your feedback. I'm glad to know it was useful. For the question of the bios version, watch the video I made below, I have been using the FC version instead of the one recommended for the 14900k taking better performance, temperatures and frequency. stability.
th-cam.com/video/BJ8sWJykles/w-d-xo.html
In the video you will see that the recommended version causes frequency fluctuation and higher temperatures ( oscillating between 5.7 - 5.5 and at times reaching 5.1). In the original version of the MB (FC) the frequency remains fixed at 5.7 (PCORES) and 4.4 (ECORES).
It's a test you should do too, I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusion.You can test the other bios versions like I did, and if you don't like it, go back to the original version without any problems.Send me news about how you're doing, this is my goal to exchange experiences and learn more. Thank you very much
Hi. How are you? There has been no video for a long time. Are you planning something new? Gigabyte motherboards are good z790, but there are few guides for them. It was great if there was a guide with the setting of JA AC/DC LOADLINE+Adaptive voltage mode+Offset mode
Hello my friend how are u going? I stopped for a few months to dedicate myself to my family, my daughter has cancer, but we are fighting well. I did something new with a 7950x and asrock steel legend. I also didn't want to post anything else that was repetitive, I'm waiting for the new AMD cpu, otherwise it would be useless content for anyone watching. I am very grateful for asking about the videos, welcome, I wish you good health and success - Salute my friend !
Thank you. Awesome video.. I'm just wondering what is the version of the bios you're using? Some people are saying that different version of the bios can give different results.
Hello my friend, welcome ! Watch below my bios version compared to the one suggested for this cpu.
th-cam.com/video/BJ8sWJykles/w-d-xo.html
The old bios is better than the new one, including the FH released in December
I need to find out how to get these bios settings for my asus mobo. I can't get my p-cores running anywhere near that during Cinebench r23.
When I do a multicore test, I get all p-cores running between 5.3ghz - 5.4ghz and e-cores all running at 4.4ghz.
same , did you fix ?
@Qersoras Nope. I have found a dozen or so guides online, all saying similar and vastly different suggestions.
I don't get anywhere near what anyone else is getting in their benchmarks. I also find that every time you ask for the bios settings, you never get an actual detailed response.
can you do same on ASUS maximus hero z790 mother board please.
Hi dude thank you for information . I disabled Multi Core enchament in bios . And temps looks good now , what do u perefer negative voltage or disable MCE ?
Hello my friend, thank you for your time watching the video.You have more control and better temperatures in offset, or at fixed frequency, but as a rule I always prefer offset mode. Salute !
Thanks for the video, but over 300 W for 41.5k while you can get 40.5 k at undervolted 253 W (13900K) still seems like quite a lot for the minor performance increase.
Hello Weissrolf , welcome! Your suggestion is very good. You are correct my friend, this was one of the first tests. As the difference between the two cpus is minimal, I was using some adjustments that I had in the 13900k of previous videos.
th-cam.com/video/5pqyYMwn7Eg/w-d-xo.html (13900k)
th-cam.com/video/dLRSPZKJhpQ/w-d-xo.html (13900k)
Finally, I reduced my consumption a little more trying to maintain the 41k.
Now using the contact frame I'm looking to go beyond 6.2 to test my limits, with greater consumption as you yourself remembered. I want to see how far this works. (* I already have something in hand that I will post soon so we can exchange expereriences)Thank you very much for your suggestion, this is my goal, to exchange experiences with those who like hardware and learn more.
Would happen to have a link to how this is possible? I find if I power limit the clocks are limited as well leading to low scores. Undervolting further to use less power then simply makes it unstable
@@sumithr138 Obviously depends on the CPU, but my 13900K seems to be rather average overall. AC LL 0.180 mOhm, LLC 0.620 mOhm, 8-56x offset -55 mV, 57-60 offset -75 mV, AVX offset -1 (doesn't trigger 99% time on 13th gen), 60/59/57/57/56/56/55/55../44/44/43/43.
Running CB23 at the 253 W power-limit uses a Vcore of 1.24 V, more than needed by CB23, but needed for other things to remain stable.
Can't belive what I saw. Great job. one question I have. I also got 14900K, I got a motherboard MSI Z790 Gaming Plus and the cooler is Noctua NH-D15.
Temps are going 100. So Everywhere I read all or saying go to AIO. Will it be worth changing cooler.?
(I wanted to use it for 3D rendering and it will run for days)
Tring to apply these settings on my motherboard. Never done CPU undervolting.
Hello my friend, welcome! Yes, it would be a good option. See some comparison tables in the links below. It is not good to leave the cpu running at 100 degrees.
www.tweaktown.com/image.php?image=static.tweaktown.com/content/9/3/9337_34_nzxt-kraken-x73-360mm-liquid-cooler-rgb-cpu-review.png
www.tweaktown.com/image.php?image=static.tweaktown.com/content/9/3/9337_32_nzxt-kraken-x73-360mm-liquid-cooler-rgb-cpu-review.png
th-cam.com/video/h42-feTsIjk/w-d-xo.html
Salute my friend and good luck there .
did you ever get the temps down? I recently built a new rig with the 14900k and MSI Carbon z790 plus a Corsair AIO 360mm. Cinebench will occasionally hit 100c but I've only just started undervolting using the Intel Extreme Tuning tool. The 14900k has turned into a cooling challenge for me 100% - Initially I built with (3) 120mm intake fans in the bottom of my case then (1) 120mm at the rear for exhaust. Recently I added another 120mm for exhaust upgraded the 3 intake to 140mm and added the (3) from that to the back of the Rad for exhaust. End of the day it made 0 difference on the 14900k. My system runs great and I never see anything above 75C when gaming but the fact that the cpu launches to 95-100c withing 30 seconds of Cinebench irritates the hell out of me
I'm running 5.8ghz all core 7200mhz c34 and I get 36k how? Sorry found my culrpit had HT disabled, now HT enabled 41k
Same configuration here, if you leave ht disabled your score will be lower, I'm glad you discovered the error.
Hello.I had a score of 36123 on stock settings.But what worries me are cpu temperature spikes i have while browsing or when on Yt. Short jumps from 43 to 67 degree or 52 to 75.Is this normal ? or do u
you have any suggestions what can cause this and how to lower them ? Thanks !
How are you my friend, welcome! Well, a low score is already an indication that something needs to be adjusted. For simple tasks my temperature fluctuates between 28 and 45 degrees. Something similar to the video below, where I had already stressed the CPU in a previous test.
th-cam.com/video/3S2EYL0waR8/w-d-xo.html
What is your cooler and motherboard? It's not a problem, but perhaps a small tweak would improve this.
What is your frequency at idle and under stress?
Thank you very much for the answer. Motherboard Asus rog z790-e, cooler Corsair icue h150i capellix xt.Frequeny idle 5700 mhz except cores 6,7 at 6000 mhz and under stress is the same.
@@AdrianMateescu-um9ju Adrian is a pleasure to exchange information and learn more from this. Your Pcores are all at 5.7 during the cbr23 stress, and the ecores are all at 4.4, ok?
Can you tell me if your cpu reaches 100 degrees during the test? This would justify the low score. And also temperature spikes in simple tasks.
I'm pretty sure your problem could be there.
Another thing you can check is the bios version. I have a video showing higher temperatures and lower performance and frequencies with the bios recommended by gigabyte:
th-cam.com/video/BJ8sWJykles/w-d-xo.html
I wouldn't worry too much about these temperatures in daily tasks, the cpu is hot. But I believe that perhaps another refrigeration option may have better results. Meanwhile you can use a fixed or adaptive voltage, because in auto mode the motherboard delivers much more than the CPU would need.
* I haven't used an Asus motherboard, but I think these adjustments can help: (in case of bluescreem, do you know what to do?)
1.actual vrm voltage set = offset mode
2.offset mode set = (-)
3.cpu vcore offset set = 0.020
Do not change llc for now, and increase the cpu vcore offset to -0.030, -0.040, etc. if stable. ( find the ideal point in stability and temperature.)
Be patient and always keep an eye in your temperatures, avoiding reaching 100 degrees. See how it works and tell me if it's ok"
th-cam.com/video/Yto5ot3OH64/w-d-xo.html (OVERCLOCK VOLTAGE versus LOW LOAD LINE CALIBRATION * temperature and voltage)
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 Thank you very much for such a quick answer. I will definetly try this new voltage settings until i find a good spot. Stress test in Cinebench 23 have cpu max temp 98 degrees, and the bios version is the latest from asus site. What cooler would you think it would be a better choice ? Thank you very much sir.
@@AdrianMateescu-um9ju Hey Adrian, 98 degrees in stock settings in cbr23 is within the margin.You can take a look at these... I still prefer the Kraken NZXT 360mm any model.
th-cam.com/video/h42-feTsIjk/w-d-xo.html
aorus water force vs nzxt kraken x73
th-cam.com/video/wahDU4PQNL0/w-d-xo.html
nzxt kraken vs thermaltake 360mm
Try reducing your voltage and watch your score. When you tell me about 98 degrees in stress, we'll have to think better if it's really the cooler. Don't change it yet.
Copied your settings on my Z690 Master with a 14900KF. Cinebench r24 crashed instantly. ANy suggestions to what I should do?
Hello Leroy, welcome. U need more vcore.Try increasing slowly or use a higher llc.
Hello. I have the same cpu and am getting around 35000. Would these changes work the same in an MSI bios?
Ditched my old rig that I put my new 14900 into (z690 rog gaming wifi mobo) because i i thought it was my small case size (x2 200mm fans in the front, 1 in rear, 1 on top, and then the CPU pump Of course..... decided to go all-inn and get a PRO ART ASUS Case, mobo, 400mm radiator and 2 400 mm fans in the front.... still hit 100 right off the bat. the key is simple: Undervolting. Intel has sold us a bill of goods that are literally on fire.
You are correct my friend, unfortunately we are facing a lack of creativity and good engineers. They launch products that are not always what we want.
Can you please re-test the score of cinebench R23 with i9-14900k using "the Intel default Setting"?
Hello Yuan, welcome my friend! Below you have my first tests in stock settings. Note that the first lower score is due to some driver adjustments (chipset)
th-cam.com/video/A_gABA_F7sw/w-d-xo.html ( 39807 points 91 degrees)
th-cam.com/video/3S2EYL0waR8/w-d-xo.html (41080points - 92 degrees)
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 I moved to the video, and it's 7 month ago, I think it can't tell me how much scores will shrink after motherboard manufactures release the new bios follows 'intel default settings'
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 but, thank you reply my question, love you dude.
I’m happy with 70c max temps 39800 score and only using 244 watts max
how?
what cpu cooler you are using.i have mine 420mm aio and stil got 100° on p-core
Hello my friend, its a kraken nzxt x73 360mm
Hello! I have a gigabyte z790xax, with an Arctic liquid freezer 2 360 rev3 and an i9 14900kf. I’ve used both of your settings ( with -0.08v and -0.045, but cinebench keeps crashing, or blue screen, all the time I start. If I start a cpu stress in cpuz I have following core voltage: 1.308, power consurption between 250-280w, not constant, and max temp will be 100celsius, and after 2-3 seconds starts automatically reduce the clock speed to 5500mhz and keeps reduceing. Any advice? Thank you. And kep up the nice work! I love your videos!❤
Thank you very much for your comment and bringing up your issue. I didn't have time to respond due to work. But let's try together. What is your llc in the bios? 100 degrees even with undervolt is strange. With the factory values, what is your temperature and frequency clock? (Does the frequency remain at 5.7GHz?)
See I had a similar problem when updating my bios, I still use an older bios, as I explain in the video below:
th-cam.com/video/BJ8sWJykles/w-d-xo.html
Send me news my friend and we will try to resolve this. See your bios version is not the cause. Let's also see if your artic cooler is doing a good job. Do the stress test with the factory settings and send me your temperatures and frequencies.
Hey man, thank you for your videos. I have a i9-14900k with galahad 2 360mm aio. Mb is asus z790-A. Yesterday under cinebench i got a super low score of 3100, cpu went to 100 a couple of times. I am brand new to building a fresh PC. I need help with what to do. Cpu crashed a couple of time while playing CS2. All settings stock except the ram xmp, I'm running 4 sticks 128gb ram gskill
i use the same proc + rog z690 . now having the same issue . do you got the solution already ?
Hello my friend, we will try to help in stages. What frequency do you reach in the pcores and ecores and what voltage during the stress test? Check if HT is not disabled in your bios.
hey my mate should we dısable HT? @@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114
asus z790 e gaming wifi board with i-4900k, 360 cooler scored ceni 38k (Fresly built). tried (noob here) tuning wiith windows xtu but can't due to watchdog? now ceni r32 won't even run even with no tuning at .000 undervolt. currently manuel tuned in bios tweakers paradise -.0065 STILL crash cenibench but games (high settings) run cool 44c displayed on mobo and no crash so i call it good?
good video , please do you have one with de 13900k Z790 aorus master. thanks
Hello my friend, welcome ! On this cpu even minus (-) 0.080 remains stable. I have some things from the 13900K with the aorus z790 board, see below if it can be useful:
th-cam.com/video/jo40sj-HHXw/w-d-xo.html (13900k 5.6 and 4.6 adaptive)
th-cam.com/video/9jIbRnod6jI/w-d-xo.html (13900k 5.6 all ecores fixed voltage)
z790 tomahawk wifi + i9 14900k undervolt with - 0.060 system stable but temperature hit 100 //// with -0.061 system crash ..... what to do ?
Hi I have the same mobo. Try to set CPU core voltage offset by - CPU (not PWM) thanks this you will decrease cpu cache voltage as well. CPU Offset or CPU adapive+offset mode are better for temps than PWM mode. Try it, this mode is in the latest bios for sure. You can play with AVX2 ratio offset -2 or -3 then you should be able to set lower voltage. Good luck
What is your cooler?
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 ruyjin 3 360
Hello in the settings of aorus, do i need to disable the under voltage protection ? because it's changing nothing in the voltage when i undervolt
Hello Joieboyy, how are u going? Can you tell me which motherboard you are using and what settings you made? As a rule, at this frequency and voltage there is no need to disable
not working at all , maybe you have older bios , but with your settings it keeps giving me 1.4+ volts
gracias probando
Gracias por tu visita, espero que todo vaya bien, si tienes alguna duda no dudes en preguntar. Salud !
hello, do you think it'll work on a i7 14700k with a msi b760-p motherboard? thanks :)
Hello my friend, welcome ! Yes, you can try using the settings below. I believe that between (- )0.070 and (-)0.090, you will be able to be stable on an MSI motherboard.
* Start with (-) 0.070 and gradually decrease the voltage until you reach (-) 0.090
Core Voltage Mode: Adaptive Offset
CPU Core Voltage Offset Mode: (-)
CPU Core Voltage Offset: 0.095
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 I am trying to do something similar with my 14900k. Do you also recommend changing the Loadline and Lite Load settings? They are in Mode # which makes it hard to understand what to choose to have similar settings to yours.
@@TrigAsus Hello Trig, I think your motherboard is an Asus. You can leave the llc on auto for an hour, after finding the ideal voltage, try using the lowest value offered by your motherboard. If unstable, increase the llc little by little. Note that when you do this your temperatures will also increase:
"You can start little by little by adjusting the following parameters in the bios:
1.actual vrm voltage set = offset mode
2.offset mode set = (-)
3.cpu vcore offset set = 0.020
Do not change llc for now, and increase the cpu vcore offset to -0.030, -0.040, etc. if stable. ( find the ideal point in stability and temperature.)
Avoid load testing if it is 100 degrees. Reduce the vcore offset to where it is stable. Be patient and always keep an eye in your temperatures, avoiding reaching 100 degrees. See how it works and tell me if it's ok"
th-cam.com/video/Yto5ot3OH64/w-d-xo.html (OVERCLOCK VOLTAGE versus LOW LOAD LINE CALIBRATION * temperature and voltage)
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 Thank you for the insight. I am using an MSI motherboard (z790 Mag Tomahawk). I was able to find that -0.050 was a stable undervolt for me. I also had to change the wattage limit from water cooler to tower cooler which helped with thermals but It led to a performance hit. I noticed that my p cores never ran at 5,700 but somewhere around 5,686. I found out I needed to enable BCLK 100Hz Lock On and after that it was great. I was able to get near 41k in cinebench with package temp reaching 96 max on a 10 min run. Thanks again for the advice!
Idk why but i can’t run multicore testing on cine, only single works when i try multi program freezing
How is your temperature in the test and what frequency and voltage does it reach in single? In multicore the demand is greater, if you made any bios adjustment you may need a higher vcore, and calibrate the llc. But I need to know what temperature your CPU is working at.
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 thx for your respond bud. The thing I’ve done is I just go bios settings and changed cooling system from water cooling to tower fan and its reduced a lilbit core. Now max heat is 88-90c and 5500mhz
@@AlirAlbayrak How are you doing my friend, in the links below you can see my score in stock settings.
th-cam.com/video/A_gABA_F7sw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/3S2EYL0waR8/w-d-xo.html
See that I always achieve 5.7 Pcores and 4.4 Ecores. When I decided to update my bios, I had a strange frequency limitation at 5.5 Pcores, maybe you are experiencing this. Their temperatures are within the expected for default settings. But it wouldn't justify not running cinebench in multicore. What is your motherboard?
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 hey bud all good thx hbu? My board is meg z790 ace
it crashes on cinebench after few minutes of running, when i go back to default doesn't happen. any solution?
Maybe not enough voltage. This really depends on motherboard and not a good guide to follow as it also depends on cooler
Lower clock speed to 5.6 and try again. I did mine at 5.3 at 1.1v and was fine. But i got a 420 rad aio. My friend had a 360 and couldn’t do it. I’d recommend using intel xtu and tune in small increments. Once you find the sweet spot put it in your motherboard
Hello my friend, welcome. Two things could be happening, perhaps your chip needs more voltage, or your cooling is not providing better performance. What is your cooler, motherboard and what frequencies, voltage and temperatures does your CPU reach under stress?
thanks mate for your answer, i've drop the voltage and follow these steps like on the video, i have thermaltake th360 snow edition, motherboard is gigabyte z790 gaming x ax, when i follow these steps like in the video the temperature it's droping but, the frequences max are 5.7ghz @@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114
@@fikretnimaniarch4791 its normal for this settings under stress test, u will get 5.7 all pcores and 4.4 all ecores .
good video, I have a ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO, how do I do the same?
Hello Echiquiel, I haven't found my old tutorial for Asus yet, but you can try these adjustments by tuning little by little.
You can start little by little by adjusting the following parameters in the bios:
1.actual vrm voltage set = offset mode
2.offset mode set = (-)
3.cpu vcore offset set = 0.020
Do not change llc for now, and increase the cpu vcore offset to -0.030, -0.040, etc. if stable. ( find the ideal point in stability and temperature.)
Avoid load testing if it is 100 degrees. Reduce the vcore offset to where it is stable. Be patient and always keep an eye in your temperatures, avoiding reaching 100 degrees. See how it works and tell me if it's ok
I was able to go to .08 stables, but it still peaks at over 95c
@@calebleuciuc670 Hello Calleb, how are u going? I'm also stable at (-) 0.080v, but at 82 degrees. What's your cooler?
It’s ok -0.10000 with 85 grade ? 14900k
Hello there and thanks for the video ! I have a Gigabyte z790 aorus elite ax as a mobo with the 14700k and the DeepCool Ak620 Zero Dark as a cooler, when using cinebench r23 it's basically thermal throttling during all the test after few seconds from starting it, what settings can I change in the bios to get same performance without throttling and should I go with an AIO cooler to help that also ?
How are you doing my friend? You can start with an offset voltage (-0.075),If necessary, try (-0.065) and successively until it is stable. Use the smallest llc possible as in the video. If you can't, set your Pcores to 5.5ghz and try 1.3v. Medium LLC. Leave the echoes on auto for now. If stable, reduce the vcore until you reach the best temperature. I believe it will reach 1.28v or less.
See the video below about overclocking with fixed voltage:
th-cam.com/video/9jIbRnod6jI/w-d-xo.html
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 Hi and thanks a lot for answering me ! What I can tell you for sure is that for some reason I can't get over -0.050 as volt offset more and cinebench r23 will crash and up to -0.075 or above the pc will crash BSOD, so what can I do more than the -0.050 offset to better control the temperature and not lose a lot of performance if not keep it as stock I don't care about overclocking to be honest it's fine.
@@bilelbriki3253 I thank you for exchanging information, it's a good way to learn more. I had problems with this motherboard using newer bios, see the video below:
th-cam.com/video/BJ8sWJykles/w-d-xo.html
what bios version are you using?
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 First of all thank you for helping me and taking your time to answer me and give me references for your older videos, I will watch the one with the fixed voltage and try to duplicate your settings in the Bios, but if the Bios version can be a problem then maybe I should watch this video first and try to change the version with an older one. The version I have now id the latest one FH since the guy who made the build for me did it by default they always update the Bios to the latest version 🤷🏻, but U saw a lot of videos where people can go way above -0.050 and still have stability during 10min loop cinebench r23 and have a great temperature and sometimes even they overclock the CPU and get better score with a better temperature without thermal throttling so I was so confused about why I can't do the same without even overclocking it with this MOBO, do you recommend a different version for better undervolting ?
@@bilelbriki3253 It's great to be in the middle of this, I really like hardware and I do it with pleasure. I saw that you are using the FH version, I will send you a video below showing why I didn't update my bios. In the test , the new bios had lower performance in Overclocking, higher temperatures and in factory settings locked the frequency at 5.5GHz instead of 5.7GHz. Maybe it would be a good start for you to downgrade the bios version and see the difference.
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I'm pretty sure the old bios will work better. Test it and let us know how it goes
*The 14700k will run fine at 1.3 - 1.25v with all Pcores fixed at 5.5. The other video settings are the same for both cpus.
How to set this on Asrock with 14700k
Hello my friend, welcome! You can adjust the appropriate voltage for your CPU, using the video below as a comparison:
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or more simple:
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You will do well with 5.5ghz and a voltage around 1.25 - 1.28 and a tdp of 125w.
I been trying to use cinebench on my i9-14900kf having my ddr5 on xmp1 on windows 11 and I get a blue screen as soon as i press start… tried unervolt it , disabling e cores and many other things and get random errors … went back on de optimization settings at the end , is it just because of windows 11 ? I don’t know what else to try
Hello Pablo, whats is your cooler and temps at stress?
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 i figured the crash was related at the fact that i connected only 8 pins on the motherboard for the cpu instead of 16... i tried that but cinebench is not even opening now, i guess that might be the issue, also because i didn't went on throttling , temps were allways low i just didn't had enough power i guess, i can't really test it now but i guess it makes sense, now i can reach 240+ while before it was halved
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114also I think I might need a power supply higher than 750w 😅
@@PabloCarballo88 The 14900k is a power hungry , but worst case, a TDP limit at 125W will likely net you 0% loss in gaming performance. U can try this before buying another psu.But I never used this cpu with 8 pins. I've done it with 10900k and 12900k, without any problems. But it would be better to have an 850w PSU and using the 16pins. I also believe that this is your problem if the temperatures are good. Please let us know if you manage to resolve your issue. I would like to see how it will work at 125w, or if you use another source it will work.
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 so i added the power limit to 256w and after that it was working fine with the 750w, i got the 1000w psu anyway in case i wanna go further , managed to get cinebench to work but after that i noticed my temps were not that good, so i added two more fans, gained about 5 degrees, now i'm sitting at 90° during cinebench multi processor test, and scored 37390. the more i up the watts on the cpu the higher the score gets and so the temps, but i guess now at 256 is fine, i use the pc mostly for gaming and no games gets even close to that, i don't really know how can you get higher scores with even lower power limits, also undervolting anything lower than -0.015v makes cinebench crash, kinda weird, but i removed it since temps were fine without it
hey mate,
i ve RogMAxDarkhero z790 and TT Floe Ring 360 with this Cpu .Cinebench hitting 100C by Stock options(some games are crashing). u think that is normal or do i ve problem by mainboard or cooler ?
BTw Thx for the video. find it really helpfull
i have same system dude. Just disable in bios "Multi core enchament". then everything is fine
@@fatihtaskn1862 saol dostum ... denicem
Hello my friend, I made a video with thermaltake and the problem is there. Im using a gigabyte water force 360mm.
I have some videos on the channel comparing 4 coolers:
Thermaltake Floe Ring 360
Kraken z73
Cooler Master 360mm
Gigabyte Water Force 360mm
You can reach a conclusion for them. I really like thermaltake, but this time I had to choose another one.
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Is it possible to just copy paste your results? I really don't understand how to manually set the clocks for the e and p cores. my 14900k was fine on a different motherboard but on a new asus maximus 790 hero it's really giving me issues. I'm about ready to just get a 14600k lol
@@ZackSNetwork Yea guaranteed stable out of the box over struggling to be stable without underclocking like crazy and thermal throttling is definitely dumb. I love how people come in and say a two line comment and think they really said something
whats your cooling solution?😊
Hello my friend, welcome! im using the gigabyte aorus water force x 360mm
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114do you have it as intake or exhaust ?
what is your setting on Boot advance configuration for number of cores. please help me
14700k
Hello my friend, I don't know if I understand your question but all in enable, all pcores and ecores, you can see the frequencies in use in hwmonitor
U can try this for 14700K (undervolting)
CPU Loadline Calibration Control: auto or if instable 4 (high)
CPU Core Voltage Mode: Adaptive Offset
CPU Core Voltage Offset Mode: -
CPU Core Voltage Offset: 0.095
Long Duration Power Limit: 125W
Short Duration Power Limit: 253W
what avx setting you have?
Hello Dimon, avx (0)
im only getting 23k in r23 on i9 14th gen
What is your motherboard, have you made any changes in the bios?
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 i had e cores switched off . with ecores on i get 41k
this is impossible with just AIO coolers.
Im using a AIO Nzxt Kraken x73 360mm
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and sometimes this:
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@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 fan speed set to full speed i think?
@@noypi594 fixed to normal in bios
run fortnite or the finals or CS2 see if its launches on this settings
I'm using this for much heavier tasks than these and it's stable. Stress testing exhausts the CPU much more than games, but yes, I also play bf4, call of dutty, counter stryke etc with temperatures of 35 - 45 degrees, your comment is strange, as anyone with a little knowledge knows that aida, cinebench, ooct , 3dmark require much more CPU. Before playing, do a stress test to test the stability of your CPU. Do you have a similar cpu? I would like to know how you are using it. After all, this is the reason for the videos, to learn more from each other.
@@hardwareandsoftwareforbegg5114 he said this because the most 14900k with higher clocks then speed then 56x have problems with UE5 Games, causes crashes ETC