Cutting down Thorn Trees in the Summer is a bad idea.
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- Today I am cutting down 2 honey locust trees. These trees are covered in long thorns. I need to cut these down to clear a path for pasture fence.
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I also cut lots of locust, do identical work. HINT: the Tordon stump killer goes only on the living edge of the stump. All the liquid on the middle of the stump is a waste. I keep mine in a ball jar inside an empty paint can with rocks in bottom and old rags around it to keep jar from rattling. I apply with paint brush. just a thought. Great vid! be safe and howdy from kansas
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I cut several bigger ones and a bunch small ones in Texas about 30 years ago, Poulan PRO chainsaws
You did a good job with that tree, however I would have worn long sleeves. Thorns are awful and they hurt. You have a darling wife to help you with those thorn limbs, good work Rebecca. You are doing a tremendous job on the farm. Oh, I love the music and your videos. Waiting to see the next one. Take care, be safe and God bless you both.
Great video you two! Thanks for sharing God-bless!
I’m enjoying the farm journey your taking me on. It’s always interesting to see what project you’re doing, and I look forward to each video.🐓
Gosh I wish you had those black walnut trees. Mama would make a black walnut cake every Christmas
At least you have a pretty nurse to take care of you and feel sorry for you.
Rocks Lots of them.
Both of you have done a amazing job
@15:50 it is necessary to apply the picloram only to the cambium, the growing part of the trunk that takes nutrients to the roots. in other words, make a ring of the herbicide around the perimeter of the inner edge of the trunk.
despite the thorns, the pink heartwood of honey locust can make beautiful lumber. @19:08 and the logs in general make dense and hotly burning firewood.
Some folks in the past have used straight honey locust tress for post!!
You used a whole lot more Tordon than you needed to, you only need to get it around the outside of the stump where the growth occurs. I put it in a spray bottle and just hit the outer edge. It's too expensive to drench the whole stump like that.
Awesome video and stay safe, God bless
Prairie pioneers spread the honey locust aka horse apple trees because the grew fast and made natural fences in the absence of poles wooden or steel. Later they were used as post material for barb wire fencing. A hearty breed those pioneers including my ancestors in what is now North Dakota and Southern Minnesota. FIY. Walnut bark and sawdust are toxic to some animals and plants. Might want to check further.
When I was a teenager I stepped on one of those thorns and it poked through my sneaker sole into my foot. Man that hurt, but it got worse, I got an infection and had to get it treated.
Those trees are in the Pea family, the beans are good for animal fodder.
I also ran over a thorn on my bicycle which blew out my tube.
I don't know how far your culvert was below ground level but that can make a lot of difference when it comes to how much water will flow through it. I once had an overflow pipe on my pond dam too high. When the water level was only an inch or two above the pipe there was about half capacity coming out the back side. When I increased the water level to about 8 inches going in it created some suction until a full pipe of water was coming out the back.
If possible, pile the dirt high enough to back up the water 8 or 10 inches higher than the culvert to create some suction.
To put in a culvert I would just use dirt and make sure the up stream side has a good clay face so it won't let water leak in, kind of works like a cheap man's concrete lol. If you don't have clay I would use lots of landscaping fabric and cover it with dirt and throw lots of oats and grass seed to get as big of a root structure as you can to help fight erosion.
been there a bunch of times. keep the tractor away from there for a long time or be ready to fix flat tires! good luck!
Nice vid as usual. Next time after cutting the tree you should haul it with the tractor to where you are going to make the brush pile and process it there. With all the work you do looking after the homestead, it will save you some work. And we can see the tractor ;).
That brush pile will made a great bond fire. I remember stepping on a honey locust thorn as a kid it was 3 or 4 trip to the doctor. Painful memory.
Lol. I would’ve just made that area a brush pile until I could set it on fire. 😂😂
Ours are way more wicked, 16" thick, SOLID spikes, 4" long, solid covered trunks too. How to remove without leaving spikes??
You need a pole saw ha
Hi I would have just cut them down and pulled them away with the tractor a lot less work
then delimb them after you get to the pile at the dam.
would have been a great day to have a set of grapples on the tractor, they make quick work of these types of jobs!!!
my thoughts exactly. pulled them to the burn pile and cut them up.
Those thorns look extremely nasty. Glad you got the job done relatively unscathed (key word there, relatively). That is going to be a big fire when you get to burn it.
I dont know maybe it's just me, but once those trees were on the ground I would have wrapped a strap around it and pulled it away with the tractor.
I was wondering about that stump killer the whole time you were doing this project. You're not worried anymore about getting thorns in your tires?
Would those cement "end caps" work to keep the culvert in place? You know, like the ones you built on the very first culverts you made?
I was going to put concrete around the ends, but hadn't gotten around to it. I think concrete end caps is ideal
It hurts me to see you do it the hard way! For goodness sakes, cut it down and drag it to the brush pile with the tractor. Use your front end loader to push up the piles. You can still cut firewood out of it. I even break the lower limbs with the loader. Save yourself. Great videos. Good luck to you.
Tractor and honey locust = flat tires.
Agreed on the flat tiers. Grandpa always used a steel wheeled tractor to mow brush areas because of the thorns.
Goats!!!!!!!! They will clean up any area.
You need to find and buy a good used wood chipper.....
It's a tree to not be messed with all those who see one know how to avoid
Just use it as a live corner post.
With the amount and type of work needed on the farm you should have a pole trimmer that would make getting into the base of these locust trees much less painful. That a pole saw can be used to cut the base of a bush or in this case trim a tree without getting into the branches would save you so much time. A pole saw will also help on keeping fields the same size as you go around and trim the saplings and overhanging limbs to keep the trees from migrating into the field.
Need to take advantage of the goats when you bring down a tree. They would think you are a god to give them that fallen tree in a fenced in area they can access as that is one from where they are from that they naturally try to climb to eat as much as they can. Stop thinking of leaf matter on limbs as a waste product and start thinking of it as tree hay so go ahead and feed them with it.
Need a long sleeved shirt for that kind of work. Know it's hot but....
You have tractors why not use it to pull the trees to the brush pile
Andrew Camarata always puts stones around and over the ends of culverts he works on.
What was the name of that stump killer?😊
At 14:53, I believe it was Tordon RTU.
Thank you!
@@margaretpervier8357, You're very welcome !
Do y ou have to be strong to do farming
Those trees remind me of our mesquite trees. Thorns galore! Next time wear a long sleeve shirt. Just sayin’
What do you use as stump killer?
At 14:53, I believe it was Tordon RTU.
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Ttwo things; learn how to cut a tree , and sharen your saw, a husqvarna deserves better that that!
It's great to know that even though your wife works nights she still lend a helping hand around the farm. Thumbs Up.
She is a champ.
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Short-sleeved t-shirt.
Oh the memories. I remember cutting down bigger locust trees on the farm. My dad just bought a new Homelite Super XL and it really chewed those trees up. I still have and use that saw. One poster talks about using them as fence posts. We used Hedge trees for that on our farm. Locust, when green, splits so easy but a killer if cured. We used green locust in our stove for overnight heat. It just smoldered and never had a flame...the heat was great. I learned about the thorns the hard way and was only sore from the jab for 3 days. We sure had to be careful where we stepped after clearing thorns from the trunk. Heavy shoes and gloves are a must.
Those thorns will puncture tires and if they break off in the tire, especially tube type tires, you will never be able to keep them aired up......
Trees that should be respected 1 cut or stab from those thorns means a tetanus shot
Evan, Mike Morgan at Outdoors With The Morgans has installed several of those drain pipes and I am sure he would give you the information that you need to get it done where it won't wash out.
culverts: my thoughts:dig the trench slightly deeper where the pipe bottom will be below the trench bottom. maybe six inches and fill in with clay or a soil that is not so porous. tamp it as best that you can. on the end that receives the flow pile huge rocks or even boulders so the flow has to run over them to enter the pipe. the exit can be filled in around with clinkers after a liner has been laid to keep the water from flashing back under the pipe end. top off the covering of the pipe with soil/clinker mix and pack it good. do not allow debris to build around entrance so as to cause the flow to rise and seek other routes past the pipe. best wishes and thank you for a family level video series..............g
Put the goats out there now and they will chop on them and clear it up for you
Just a thought why not drag the whole tree with the tractor to the bush pile and then cut the limbs?
That,s right work smarter not harder!!
He has to be able to fell the tree without getting caught and crushed when it falls.
You risk scattering thorns in your field
Locust makes decent fence posts, just a thought
john dowe,
Black Locust makes the best fence posts and lasts way longer than any other wood.
If you cut them in August they last another twenty years longer.
Something about the tree forming resins preparing for Winter.
@@oldmanfred8676 yep the bugs won't touch em very much
Old Man Fred apparently you’ve never used hedge! Gets harder than Granite
😬 I get cutting some, but I wouldn't have cut off all the thorns off the trunk.. Thorns flying everywhere are now waiting to stick in someone's foot OUCH!!😣😢🙏🏿... I hope not!
Those thorns on the trunk looked like super urchins. Will you mow that area up some to break those down so the animals don't hurt their feet or eat those things? Great day - 💖🐱👤
Might get yourself a leather welders jacket to protect your upper torso for cutting those type trees,it would help protect your arms.
Boy your property is just beautiful. Im especially jealous of that pond. I would have a tough time doing chores knowing my rod is just on the porch.... Thorns!!, Yuck Thanks for sharing..
Glad to see you saved the larger pieces for firewood. A friend of mine gave me a truckload of honey locust when we lived in IL. I had never burned it before even though we had a lot of it on our farm growing up. It was some of the best firewood I ever had. It burned hot and banked really well. I agree, those are nasty trees to deal with and prolific buggers!
I really hate those trees. I have several that I have avoided.
Ok, I cringed when I saw you cutting the clusters off. That spot should be off limits for tractors for a few years or you’ll fix a lot of flats. We have a flat about every weekend that we are on the farm. Always(so far) in the front tires. So bad we bought a spare - twice we’ve had two flat at once. Good move to use Tordon
Inadvertent send. A pole chain saw would be the ticket for reaching in and cutting. Hauling limbs might be your only way with your current equipment. Dragging the tree will spread thorns all along the path. A grapple does a good job to move them without spreading thorns. If you can run your brush cutter low enough to bare the ground, you might cut some of those thorns up. No guarantees though. I share your aversion to the abomination that is honey locust.
Good job Evan and Rebecca, that’s a nasty thing to have to do but if you have any on your property the sooner you get rid of them the better you will have it. Thanks for sharing with us and your great videos.
A did that a few years ago. Scratched my arms all up.Went to a convenience store after and the cashier asked what happened to my arms. I told her that was the last time I drown a batch of kittens. 🤣🤣
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That is beautiful wood. If you know a woodworker, he or she would love to work with that wood. Love your home and how well you work together.
Just a word of caution, every little stick off those trees will root and grow more trees. I hate them with a passiin.
Ugh. I hate those trees too! I got a few small saplings I plan on yanking out before they get too big. Enjoyed the video. Have a great day
Those thorns will put a hole in your tractor tires! Be careful out there! Those are BIG trees too, btw! What about using the tractor to drag the tree where you want it? Thats what i do, cuz i work by myself. On the culvert, if you have a couple of BIG rocks you can anchor the ends with, then use crusher run on top that will probably hold it. You also need to dig the ditch down another foot at least. The plastic floats, and thats probably why it washed out.i used to work for a company that makes it. Also, i would make the culvert lenth a minimum of 20 feet. Gives you room for tractor, implements and fencing easement.
That's one horrible nasty-looking tree.
I'm glad we don't have any in Australia.
Thorns on the bottom smooth on top isn't getting lucky with honeylocust, it's by far the norm. They are great pasture trees because the thorns keep the animals from stripping the bark and the pods are great forage.
install a much bigger culvert pipe probably 3 times the size and then the water wont overrun the pipe.
Put some Tordon on those tree stumps. Otherwise you'll end up with 20 new sucker Honey Locust trees. Ah heard you say that after I made this comment. Edit. Tordon works great!
I have goats on my homestead and they are great land clearing animals, come check it out if you have time! Great video
can't wait to see all the finished projects done..
Fun work :) Locust trees make great long-lasting fence posts. My uncles farm in southern Indiana used them when they raised beef cattle.
Why don't you mow that grass, you can make good fodder out of it.
And you can maintain the grass land much better
But fortunately we don't have these spine trees here in the Netherlands 😀
You need to pickup a shitty old farm truck for moving bracnches and stuff. You could even find one with ac and rake your hay with it.
I love your videos but hated to see you cut those thorn clusters off. You will find them in the hooves of your animals and macinery/truck/car tires now and there is no way to really clean them up. I would think you would have been better off to leave them attached to the limbs/trunk until you could burn them all. But I do love your farm and videos!
Horrible invasive species. Kills everything but honeysuckle. I would use the tractor to drag the whole tree to the brush pile and then cut it up.
Why didn't you just tow the tree while it was whole down to the brush pile with the tractor and cut it up at the brush pile. I have Locust trees around my yard in MA and they are awful. When you cut one down it sprouts a hundred shoots so you have to keep mowing down the new suckers. Love your channel.
I have thorn trees, how are you going to keep the animals from getting them stuck in their hooves and paws? I didn't even cut mine but thorns drop and my dog has stepped on them a couple times.
Be glad you do not have a farm in Africa.... Thorn trees by the millions. Some beautiful. Some nasty.....
ON the culvert both ends put old cement scrap or large rock check out letsdig for some ideas .
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You are such a very pleasant dude, I enjoy your videos and is a bit jealous of your outdoor activities when I'm stuck in a cold office. Keep them coming buddy.
I spent 19 years in an 8X8X8 office. They pretty much force people out after a while and I was no exception. I finally ended up with an outside job selling advertising for a community newspaper and spent most of my time in rural travel ... Best job I ever had, second only to working in my brother's music store and recording studio.
I would have notched trees at base, hooked up chain to tractor and dragged them to brush pile, then delimbed them.
You will need to fence around the tree's , because the goats will eat the bark off the tree's and kill them if you don't ...
I know you are finished by the time you read this, but why didn't you pull the whole tree over to the burn pile, cut the branches off throw them on the pile then cut the firewood/ Looks like that would be easier and is that tree good for firewood? I cut a cottonwood tree one time, got a lot of firewood and it burned so fast it was no good to burn.
I would cut down everyone of them, I hate thorns of any kind. Thanks
Dose the tree have big long beans on them?
Yes, and they’re quite sweet
I was walking on a trail that was covered in leaves you could not see the dirt but little did i know under those leaves was a bunch of torns from the locust tree under the leave
Cutting down any trees in summer is a bad idea. If you cut your trees higher you could put a chain around and get the tractor to haul out the stump.
Be careful driving your vehicles around those trees you can get thorns in the tires an the tires are ruined as the thorns just keep working their way into the tires even after you have the tire repaired,
Good luck,
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Hawthorn trees are pretty bad too. Not quite as tall and as many thorns but just as sharp. Cut one down and have one more to go.
I cringed when that branch fell on you and stuck in. I know how bad those nasty things hurt. New fenced pasture is going to be great! Thanks for your videos, I can live in the country vicariously through you guys!
These honey locust with thorn suck, the ones with out are real nice yard tree, but where I'm at we have wild hawthorn trees they dont look as vicious but they are, the thorns are all over and there like the size of a sowing needle or a needle when you get a shot so the will go through you alot easier
Those thorns are wicked
If you let is season, that tree would make an excellent post.
Black locust make great posts. We pretty much used those exclusively. Honey locust rotted pretty quickly or so said my dad. Maybe he just didn't want to deal with all the thorns to get them.
@@terrycastor8299 I cut a honey locust tree about 18 months ago and left leaning next to a tree thinking I could use it as a post later, but it rotted. I have heard, however, if you treat them with fire they make good post.
JudithB EWWWW, those locust thorns are nasty! They can go through your shoes and your tires too. We had them at the farm in the hay field. Here on the mountain, I havent seen any but we got a flowering Hawthorn and its nasty too!!! Be careful!!!!
why not snigg the tree over to near the pile, then cut it up ???????
Build that bridge! To the back acreage?
Tractor drag the tree to the brush pile, limb it there. Bob
Question: Trees that sprout new trees from the roots are said to have "aggressive" root system (such as sweet gums, bradford pears etc.) Does the Tordon also kill the root system as well?